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#Pre Peak Supply Research
cursive basalt
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wow.
low lintel
couldnt manage a weak +5 easily
but overall I impressed myself with the effiencies lol
crisp scaffold
and you'll actually get groove and cowries lol
low lintel
groove, cowries are going to be bad
crisp scaffold
bad, but probably more than twice as good as my version XD
low lintel
yours is much much simpler to deal with though
mines going to be a bit chaotic to review
now to try to get some more sleep in, hopefully 😦
cursive basalt
my insane schedule:
I’m honestly in love with this. So dense. So complete
low lintel
Strong +1, and 2 instances of Weak +1
low lintel
I’m honestly in love with this. So dense. So complete
haha it was kind of a pain to figure out but a fun pain
low lintel
Strong +2
cursive basalt
Yeah
cursive basalt
My hypothesis is that increasing might be -5 to -3 and none is actually -2 to +1, and the day before a strong peak is actually -7 instead of -8
That would make -7 + 2 = -5, which is increasing
The big info here is getting the data all throughout when it should say none
I think I asterisked where it might change if that’s the case
But yeah, if my new theory is correct, it should only say increasing for 3 numbers
And then none for 3
And then decreasing for 4 which is infuriating but whatever
So 2, 3, and 4 crafts would say Increasing and 5 would switch to none, 6 is also insuff none, and 7 is Sufficient None
Idk. It’s a theory
low lintel
I'm not sure if the -7 makes me like the chart more or less lol
low lintel
all of the numbers in the chart bother me because its clearly rounded halves of shit
I swear I can spell
cursive basalt
I’ve confirmed multiple times that crafting 7 of something on its strong peak brings it up to insuff
low lintel
but the question isnt supply, its shift, right?
cursive basalt
It’s a little supply
low lintel
oh, starting supply for the day, yeah
cursive basalt
Because if supply changes after you make 7 of a strong pre peak today, that means it has to have changed -7
Which is transformative
(In a nigh trivial way that changes nothing in a practical manner)
But it changes my chart
cursive basalt
This is our current understanding
low lintel
ok. my brain is having a harder time than normal parsing the normal format we use so i changed my doc to have both for...bad brain days
low lintel
oh its 1, i get to check more numbers, yay!
Weak +2 (Draught), Strong +4 (Necklace)
the fact that my +4 finishes before my +3 amuses me
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so far I've gotten 346 cowries, poggers
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groove?
low lintel
mines more than double so unless i got 130 groove...
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also I'd assume brush has a better base
low lintel
oh, you're right its base
44 vs 28
its brush/earring that match that im thinking of
cursive basalt
2 weak is None!! This is huge. Weak prepeak should be -4 so adding 2 taking it to -2 being None is big support for my hypothesis
low lintel
oh my god
i freaked the fuck out because I didnt post my 3pm one 2 hours ago
but I totally did
Weak +3 (Clam), Strong +5 (Brush)
cursive basalt
Strong 5 also None! Wow
Strong 5 being None makes no sense with the assumptions of -8 on a pre strong peak and -1 to +1 being None
That would put it at -3, nowhere near any of that
But fudge those to -7 and -2 to +1
And bam, we have -7 +5 = -2 None
cursive basalt
Not everything. I did 2 weeks of hardcore boundary testing but it was mostly around peaks. I think I proved that None ended at +1 and assumed it was symmetrical. The -1 assumption led to -8 for the strong prepeak because it “had” to be -7 on the peak so that 6 could put it at None
low lintel
oh
cursive basalt
I’m really upset that my definition of demand shift was wrong because this happens every C1 and I just assumed they did something weird on C1. Why did I assume that instead of questioning my definitions?
Im not upset I had -7 and -8 reversed for strong peak days.
They’re functionally identical.
No one makes 7 of something on a prepeak
low lintel
yeah rec purposes yeah
hmm, but this still doesnt help figure out imposters better lol
cursive basalt
Nope. Imposters are all around the Skyrocketing - Increasing border, which hasn’t changed
low lintel
yeah, just would have been nice if better data helped something lol
cursive basalt
I’m 100% confident about the supply level boundaries
That is the other thing I tested hardcore
low lintel
you mean the reversed, shifted, supply deficit? 😄
cursive basalt
Lol
It’s not too bad if you think of it as buyers in line
But also
I don’t want to
One of them has to be backwards. Skyrocketing has an up arrow but Overflowing has more boxes
They can’t both represent numbers going up
low lintel
oh god, i never thought about the boxes going up
maybe they're....empty boxes, to be filled with product to ship out >.>
cursive basalt
I mean, they’re boxes left unpurchased on the warehouse floor
Which is fine if your supply number represents boxes of stuff
But not fine if your supply number represents people in line
low lintel
lol yeah
cursive basalt
And vice versa with the demand shift. Up arrow represents more people in line.
Idk
I don’t care about their internal representation
low lintel
hmm, that just leaves 3 numbers left with * right? weak 4 and strong 6/7?
cursive basalt
I’m consistent with my terminology
low lintel
oh, strong 5 probably broke that
low lintel
ah
cursive basalt
2 and 4 for weak
low lintel
I am really glad i saved my agenda with notes, tryign to look at it now and scroll up and down to figure out which is what number is a pain lol
cursive basalt
Yeah, 7 being Suff would be a huge deal but I think it’s Suff- None and 8 should be Suff - None, 9 should be Suff - Decreasing
Sorry, I said None for 3 earlier. It’d be None for 4: -2, -1, 0, 1
Inc for 3: -5, -4, -3
Sky for anything below -6
And I still have to assume Decreasing starts at 2…. I guess we’ll find out!
Gonna be furious if it’s -2 to +2
Because that means I based it on nothing
low lintel
yeah, makes me glad my insane schedule goes to +9, just...for the extra data confirmation lol
cursive basalt
No, I’m pretty sure I confirmed this because on the -1 C2s for 6/7 peaks
I made 1, which brought it up to Suff - None
And I definitely made 2
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Strong 5
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Which I guess would also be Suff None
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cursive basalt
Did I ever make 3
low lintel
our last 3 months have been a lie
crisp scaffold
that bad huh? XD
low lintel
its not...bad exactly just different? lol
it doesnt impact us any really
other than being more accurate, which is great
means we cant make 7 on a pre-peak, but what normal person makes 7 of something
this has been fun other than my freak out about missing one
cursive basalt
Sufficient!
Okay, so one pre-peak was right, lol
This is so good
This is all so good
Thank you both so much
cursive basalt
Strong 7 is sufficient
Wonderful
That confirms -7 for prepeak
and -2 for None
Hopefully we can confirm +2 for Decreasing in a couple hours
@low lintel I think you have +8 done?
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8 and 5 will be done at 2 for me
cursive basalt
Excellent
low lintel
<@173509583283683328> I think you have +8 done?
yes, its just hard to post updates while asleep
low lintel
Strong +7 (Brush), Strong +8 (Necklace), Weak +4 (Draught)
nothing to be sorry for, sleep was not expected lol
my heartrate skyrocketed and i went to lie down to see if that helped
it...did, by sleeping
low lintel
yeah
just glad i woke up before the +9
to have each step
and heartrate down to 95 rather than 133 >.>
so wins all around
cursive basalt
Even if you had missed this step, Djinni’s got it covered
low lintel
yeah
just real glad i didnt sleep until reset
and more importantly, that i didnt sleep until midnight so i could post my time for work on the correct day lol
cursive basalt
Omg
low lintel
oh, so if we've basically going to have -8(7?) through +2 done as far as demand shift, do we need to test any other points? +3 through ...i dunno +7? or -15 through -8/7
just a thought, not sure out of a desire for completeness, or perhaps masochism, lol
cursive basalt
I’ve done -15 through -8. It’s definitely -7 through +2 today
I guess we could double check like, exactly where plummeting starts
Like, on C3, we could find something that peaks C6 so it’s already Decreasing and just make more of it until things happen
low lintel
assuming the 5 starting point is correct 😄
cursive basalt
I mean it tests both
low lintel
oh true
cursive basalt
Make them until it goes up in rank and we have the exact supply value.
low lintel
wait, its the only 5 on the chart? that seems odd
cursive basalt
7 weak also decreases, I think?
low lintel
nope, plummeting
low lintel
yeah, strange how 6/7 dont fit the pattern the others all match to
low lintel
Strong +9, as expected
low lintel
so does that mean we're changing both the None definition and the starting point for pre-peaks?
cursive basalt
I just made an incorrect assumption and failed to challenge it when I should’ve
Just strong pre peaks
But yes
low lintel
so then the question is...do i go turn off my C3 rest to double-check C6 peak lol
cursive basalt
I mean, I would because it’s the only decreasing in the bunch.
But I’m me
And sadly I can’t because my computer should be in a box all day tomorrow
low lintel
im trying to look at what else i could do because in theory thats literally a single craft for the entire day
cursive basalt
Honestly, all the 6/7s could use confirmation
I know they behave the same before their peak
But between the -1 and the prepeak
I’m kinda lost
Actually, untrue
I know making 1 of anything not 6 weak will put it at surplus
So I know what it does on C3, sadly
low lintel
do we know C5 peaks on C3? i think we just know its 4/5 right?
wait no, they should be nones
cursive basalt
We know which items will peak C5 but not the strength
low lintel
which is fine for me lol
cursive basalt
What are you thinking?
low lintel
going to do a C6 weak and a C5, because if C6 weak does some crazy unexpected shit, we may need alternate numbers we know start from 0
like if crafting 1 doesnt go plummeting, that tells us some piece of data is wrong, not necessarily which
cursive basalt
We know it starts at -1 though
So we just keep crafting until supply changes and then we know where we started
low lintel
oh true
tryign to look at all the numbers while also doing a hunt train is not working 😄
for either really. I've died like 6 times
cursive basalt
Yikes
low lintel
well, its only like 20 people so we're taking forever to kill them lol
cursive basalt
Well, good luck with both. I have to sleep so I can move tomorrow
low lintel
haha good!
cursive basalt
This is…my last night? Sleeping? In this apartment?
low lintel
getting a new bed too?
cursive basalt
Last night definitely had dog taking up a third, partner taking his third out of the middle, and me pressed against the wall
This is only barely sustainable with a 20lb Bichon
Lizards are cute!!
low lintel
Tegu lizard. they're so big, but they're so docile
low lintel
i mean i have a whole bedroom not being used
cursive basalt
Awwww
It seems too big for a terrarium is all
But a whole room
That’s adorable to me??
low lintel
lol
you get them an enclosure but often custom built and like 6'x4' or bigger
cause they're so big
they start out so tiny
like babies fit in the palm of your hand. its crazy how much they grow
cursive basalt
Wow!!
low lintel
lol, yeah randomly copied an albino one
low lintel
all kinds of color shades too
ok, i need to stop looking at lizards before i end up tryign to buy one lol
and rest set back to C7 lol
low lintel
my C3 schedule so far and I'm just blankly staring at the screen otherwise lol
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incredible
low lintel
insane C3 schedule:
not sure if I'd get to the initial +1 in time so added a +1 that should last all day lol
and otherwise filled in tryign to build groove without ruining future data
low lintel
C6W +1, changed to plummeting as expected
means the rest of the day is likely unnecessary data, but I'll check supply at +3 and +4 to make sure it changes to surplus at the +4 as expected as well
low lintel
This is only barely sustainable with a 20lb Bichon
my sleep-deprived brain had a random thought that these should just be pronounced: bitchin'
low lintel
C6W +3, still sufficient as expected
cursive basalt
So at +4 we expect it to make the move to surplus
low lintel
yup, just wont get that until...6pm est
low lintel
C6W +4, Surplus as expected
cursive basalt
So we’ve confirmed that plummeting is +6 and up. Yesterday we confirmed that decreasing was at +2
So it’s just none and strong prepeaks that have changed
low lintel
K. Now to see if I feel up to actually going to set a schedule for tomorrow.
opal storm
I literally just found out about this thread; anything you need me to Science @cursive basalt? That was the primary purpose for the alt that handles C1-testing after all!