Stop updating the game

[fickle peak]

Genuinely notice nothing different with every update other then mods getting fucked and as a result ruining modded campaigns, NOTHING BURGER type sh

[plain dagger]

Average cant wait for lua to update moment

[zenith wave]

The answer is not "not updating the game" the answer is "meaningful updates"

[fast walrus]

^

Crazy if this thread is real

[west sorrel]

This is the worst bait ive ever seen

[fast walrus]

“Please do not fix bugs anymore, I would prefer the game be a mess by the time the DLC is released. Thank you barodev.”

[fickle peak]

My point is you notice 0 difference with the updates

Game has nothing, it runs like shit and sometimes you see bugs

[fickle peak]

The game will be a mess regardless

Some patches introduced new issues btw

[plain dagger]

Master baiting at work

But typically the only mods that actually break are lua ones for less than 24 hours

xml ones at most, often just slightly outdated but still functional

[fickle peak]

Less than 24 hours is hopeful at best

[plain dagger]

Its what happens literally every time

[fickle peak]

Doesn't need to

[plain dagger]

EvilFactory is good at updating lua in short time

[fickle peak]

The updates do fuck all anyway

[plain dagger]

[fast walrus]

Can you explain what you would do to fix bugs instead?

[fickle peak]

Space out the updates more

Instead

[prisma cliff]

Mods are not needed if there is no game. What's the point of this argument?

[fickle peak]

^

[prisma cliff]

The main thing is the game. If the mods don't work, then to hell with them.

[plain dagger]

Its a hotfix

[fickle peak]

Vanilla is unplayable

[plain dagger]

The main updates are not frequent

[fickle peak]

It's fall asleep gameplay

[prisma cliff]

Don't play

[fickle peak]

I paid money

[fast walrus]

Okay, I was skeptical at first but there is no way you aren’t baiting now

[fickle peak]

After my first vanilla campaign

[prisma cliff]

Then play and don't complain that the game is being developed.

[fickle peak]

Done I can't enjoy vanilla

[fickle peak]

I got mods

I don't need useless updates lol

Updates that need Updates too lmao

[fast walrus]

🫃

[prisma cliff]

Wait for the mods to update and play with the mods if you can't live without them.

[fast walrus]

Waiting is for shmucks

[fickle peak]

Not so simple

[prisma cliff]

Write to the mod developers why they take so long to update mods.

[fast walrus]

Emails have been sent

[fickle peak]

The updates can ruin load orders and campaigns

[fast walrus]

They will not get away with this

[prisma cliff]

Mods can also break the game.

[fickle peak]

Rarely if done right

But backups exist

So pointless argument

[fast walrus]

Set your game to only update when you ask it to, and whoever you play with in multiplayer

[prisma cliff]

exactly. The game won't stop being updated

[fickle peak]

Then that would fuck mods

[fast walrus]

But the mods aren’t updated yet?

What’s going on?

[fickle peak]

Brother mods get updated

If I ever have to resub or smth it's up to date

You can't just stay in old versions

No one would be able to join

The updates genuinely fix or add nothing

[fast walrus]

Okay so you can tell everyone to set steam to offline mode and then host a LAN game through hamachi

That way nothing gets updated

[fickle peak]

😂

People struggle to just install lua

You think I'm gonna run hamachi?

[prisma cliff]

Mods don't add anything, play on vanilla

[fickle peak]

Explains a lot

Vanilla is shit.

[fast walrus]

Dude when I download a mod I like can’t even see what changes

Nothing burger imo

[prisma cliff]

The same meaningless statement as yours

[fast walrus]

🍔

[fickle peak]

It's fact

Vanilla is shit

[prisma cliff]

Yes. Mods suck, they break the balance, they save, they don't let you enter the game

[fickle peak]

Never setup a good mod list then lol

[fickle peak]

Neurotrauma making medical actually good=

If your into simple gameplay fair enough

That's fine

But I can't stand that bland simplicity after a campaign

And many others can't either

[prisma cliff]

Play with mods, no one forbids you to do so

[fast walrus]

When I download a mod it keeps me up at night thinking of when the next update will be. When I finally do fall asleep in my anxious delirium, I wake up in a cold sweat shaking with adrenaline. Only to then see that 30 minutes had passed.

[fickle peak]

Modded crews suffer for updates that do little to nothing other then cause headaches for the complications

Mod authors won't always be around either

[fickle peak]

Updates do

The delicate setup can be trampled with random hot fixes

[prisma cliff]

Wait for the mods to update. If the updates in the game don't do anything, then the mods won't be affected and you can play right away. If the updates in the game do add something, then wait until the mod authors update them. It's simple

[fickle peak]

Mods can take weeks sometimes depending on the update

[prisma cliff]

And writing to the authors of the game a suggestion not to update the game, not to add anything new is nonsense.

[prisma cliff]

Write to the mod developers why they are so slow.

[fickle peak]

My point is the updates do again, fuck all

Or even worse they introduce new issues

So it's update after update like recently

[fickle peak]

Blud calls me bait lmao

[prisma cliff]

In this argument, you made me appreciate updates even more. The developers do so much work, even with DLC development, they don't forget to update the game and make it a little better every time.

[fickle peak]

Nothing.

[prisma cliff]

Thx

[solid apex]

I WANT MORE UPDATES. I NEED MORE UPDATES. I LIKE THE VERSION NUMBER GOING UP. I LIKE HOW IT MAKES ME FEEL. IT MAKES ME FEEL STRONG. BARODEVS PLEASE UPDATE MORE I BEG YOU

[fast walrus]

Can we get a number go up thread please?

[lean hill]

I agree with FlochEnjoyer 🙂

[fast walrus]

Wait now that you say it like that…

[lean hill]

About bugs and e.t.c, it's real needed updates

But new content comes more from mods then from updates

Updates just destroy mods

Many good mods outdated now

Or they need to make system that dont destroy mods

[prisma cliff]

This is a mod developer's problem, not a game update.

[lean hill]

It's problem of devs, mod developers and main - players

[fickle peak]

Wow someone who understands

And isn't VANILLA SUPERIOR FUCK MODS!

[lean hill]

Or they can make updates rary but it's really big and important updates

But for that time we will see tons of new content from mods

[lean hill]

So it's still useless

Sorry for my english
In my country only 5-10% of ppl know english a little or good

[fast walrus]

It’s okay I am helping you

[lean hill]

I use english only in discord

Okay

[solid apex]

your wish has been granted

[north crow]

You wouldn't believe how many decisions made by the developers are dictated by the need to maintain backwards compatibility (important for mods) and by the desire to make new features usable for modding.

[lucid briar]

Did you just suggest they stop updating the game.

"i hate Bugfixes and improved gameplay" kill yourself

[fast walrus]

wo

[lucid briar]

I love this game, and I like it if the features get more and the bugs get less, this is by far the sillyest idea ever posted on this server.

I just checked, bro got less than 400 hours in the game

[north crow]

Barotrauma gang stalking event.

[uncut cedar]

That is a professional level of ragebaiting

S++

Almost on par with ek videogames

[fickle peak]

Lmao

Tbf it is undertow what did I expect

[fickle peak]

God forbid I have a life

[wary dome]

10/10 ragebait 🥹

[fickle peak]

It's more half serious

Obviously I don't expect undertow to stop the updates but they are a headache

[fickle peak]

But actually getting a kys is funny af lmao

[wary dome]

waiting for lua to update is annoying

[fickle peak]

Or worse, most of your mods

I dread updates I don't get excited

That's the whole point of the thread lol

[wary dome]

i don't rlly play heavily modded much anymore but i get it

i do wish updates were bigger but it's not really that simple

[uncut cedar]

Tbh this year they are probably smaller than usual because devs are working on huge ass dlc

[fickle peak]

Mines not even heavily modded lol

It's 10 mods

Not including patches

[uncut cedar]

And fakefish isnt exactly known for a large dev team

[wary dome]

yea

not complaining

[lucid briar]

Tbh I don't get why y'all hate on vanilla so much

[wary dome]

its kind of boring imo

[lucid briar]

You're not playing it it's fullest then

[wary dome]

i have nearly 2k hours though so idk if i can really say much about that

[uncut cedar]

But seeing how much hate they get for not doing large updates/doing only small ones is actualy hilarious

[lucid briar]

Nah 2k is decently experienced

[wary dome]

yea but ive seen almost everything so it makes sense that id get bored

[lucid briar]

You ever created an near immortal super soldier

In vanilla I mean

[wary dome]

yes

[lucid briar]

God I love genes

[uncut cedar]

Especially knowing most devs would just stop updates at all or the fact baro is supported for almost 9 years already

[wary dome]

yea im surprised they're still going

[lucid briar]

Its time for baro 2 soon

An optimised version without bugs or lag

[upper walrus]

tbf floch is right, not too much is added per update, definitely much less than what mods offer so updates do get kinda annoying sometimes.

[wary dome]

maybe a huge update like with legacy > steam

[wary dome]

but thats unrealistic

[lucid briar]

Keep in mind, they are doing a lot of dlc work, which we just don't see

[uncut cedar]

Anything new is better than no updates at all

[wary dome]

i personally still appreciate updates even if theyre small fixes

[uncut cedar]

Or 2 per year or something

[lucid briar]

After the dlc, if they use all they're power on main Updates, they might get larger

[wary dome]

#baro-github

[lucid briar]

Me as an illeterate doesn't see em

[wary dome]

theyre doing really cool stuff

[upper walrus]

not when they add things i can count on my hands yet it messed every mod in the list

[fickle peak]

🙏

[upper walrus]

eeeeh, there is new stuff, its new mods plus their respective updates. so baro not updating wouldnt be stagnation, it would off load the content to the modders which is already happening

[fickle peak]

Now we wait for the next kys

[wary dome]

300th gun mod

[uncut cedar]

To me all vanilla additions are way more valuable than any new mods

[upper walrus]

for the unemployed this is but a fraction of their existence, for the employed its a sizeable amount of playtime

[upper walrus]

there are a lot of those, but there are also a lot of other mods the beauty is you get to choose.

[upper walrus]

may god grace us with multicore

[uncut cedar]

Eh, performance is already kinda decent nowdays
Definitely better then before
Even like, two years ago i used 5 3600 to play baro with ~100-200fps

And thats not a top of the line gaming cpu

Not sure how it performs right now

[upper walrus]

had the same core, game brings it to its knees.

[uncut cedar]

🤔

[upper walrus]

If youre completely dry vanilla it manages definitely, but we have to agree that the modding scene for this game is quite large and once mods are introduced you need that multicore.

[wary dome]

yea with nt and stuff it gets really bad sometimes

[fleet delta]

You mean now impotent railgun shells?

Dogshit update

[wary dome]

yo what

new ragebait dropped

[fickle peak]

Impotent rail gun shells 😭

[wary dome]

the piercing makes railguns actually fun to use

[fleet delta]

Railgun shells now disappear shortly after the first impact: the change in the previous update (which allowed them to penetrate multiple limbs/targets) had the side-effect that a shell that went through a single limb could fall back on the submarine and still do full damage.

From patch notes

[wary dome]

havent noticed that

[fleet delta]

So from what i understand, submarine weapon designed to destroy submarines and deep sea cosmic horrors goes flacid after punching a leg

[fleet delta]

That's the whole point @fickle peak made this post

They updated, boosted railgun and some other stuff

Then week later nerfed it

Pretty stupid move that just fucked over modded campaigns

[uncut cedar]

It probably refers to the way new railgun shell work
Im pretty sure after first hit it spawns a second instance of itself that deals lower damage or something
And one that was falling is the first one that was supposed to stop functioning after first hit
Atleast thats what i think so
Also it still penetrates multiple limbs just fine

[wary dome]

yea the update made shells penetratre enemies

[fleet delta]

Fire it at a sub through crawler first

[wary dome]

didnt do that before afaik

[fleet delta]

And lets see

[fleet delta]

Sorry but railgun obliterating bunch of small fish should be basic stuff

[uncut cedar]

Damage falloff depends on amount of penetrated creatures/walls

[wary dome]

so they added it

[fleet delta]

That's so fucking bad

And it's even point blank

Railgun should be able to at least destroy one layer and damage second

[north locust]

Yeah no, wtf is that damage on the railgun, that's the standard shell right?

[wary dome]

yea

[uncut cedar]

Yes, no explosives

[fleet delta]

Crawlers are just flies

[upper walrus]

it got nervous

[north locust]

Fucking impotent railgun wtf

[fickle peak]

I can't believe I had that fuck up of a session last week so railguns can be dogshit 😭

[upper walrus]

railguns with performance anxiety wasnt on my 2025 bingo

[north locust]

Mine neither

[wary dome]

yo what am i insane

i feel like railguns are so much better now

[uncut cedar]

??????
That change was from a sep17 patch
One located in todays update is just a bugfix that i just explained

Railguns always dealed small damage to shells without explosives

[wary dome]

also if youre using a railgun on a sub then js use nukes

[uncut cedar]

This is shell damage with c-4 block

With regular shell

So im not really getting the thing about "impotent railguns" or whatever

[upper walrus]

takes away optiions, maybe i dont wanna blow a top hole but go all the way through

[fleet delta]

Try high power shell

[north locust]

thing is, with explosive filler it's the filler that's doing the job, it should be the projectile itself ramming thru the ship

[uncut cedar]

Wtf is high power shell

[uncut cedar]

It never did real damage to structures without explosives

Im not sure why people are noticing just now

[fleet delta]

Idk something they mentioned in patch notes

[fleet delta]

No we just expected something better when they announced on 17th boosted railgun and promptly nerfed it

[uncut cedar]

Its not a nerf

Its a bugfix if you actually read

[uncut cedar]

Im not sure who are you refering as "we" but the railgun creature penetration is a significant buff

[fleet delta]

Shoudlnt it do full sub damage even after penetrating couple limbs? Imo that makes perfect sense

[north locust]

It's not a bugfix, if you'd read what it says there you'd know

[fleet delta]

As i mentioned, the strongest weapon there is should pack some serious punch

And not just scratch a wall after slicing 5 measly crawlers you take out with few pistol shots

[wary dome]

"the change in the previous update (which allowed them to penetrate multiple limbs/targets) had the side-effect that a shell that went through a single limb could fall back on the submarine and still do full damage."

[uncut cedar]

It is
It despawns first stage of the shell after penetrating first creature/wall now, because previously it was just falling down after that

[uncut cedar]

It does

You just seen the videos

[fleet delta]

Yes and i think that was fine

[north locust]

Yeah, which it should do

[wary dome]

to each his own

[uncut cedar]

It means shell stopped all of it movement and instead of despawning fell straight down

[fleet delta]

We probably have a different idea of serious punch

[upper walrus]

with explosives, at that point penetrating creatures was also solved by stuffing em with explosions

[north locust]

people should be able to understand, that a multi kilo projectile, made of a hard metal, SHOULD NOT lose any significant amount of energy on small creatures

[uncut cedar]

You are not understanding what that patchnote actually means

[uncut cedar]

It still kills alot of creatures by penetrating them even without explosives

[upper walrus]

if theyre in line

decent amount of enemies swarm horizontally

can get quite a few but also enough times itll only hit a few

so nice feature, shouldve existed before, hull damage is pitiful

[uncut cedar]

It always been like that

Refering to hull damage without explosives

[upper walrus]

doesnt mean it should stay so, especially if we're getting buffs for it

[uncut cedar]

Canister shell

[upper walrus]

lead muncher 9000

[uncut cedar]

People are calling it a nerf like it just happened yesterday

[uncut cedar]

There is 3 billion lead ingame

Ore, empty fuel rods, mining outposts

[upper walrus]

its a nice thing but its spread aint too great either and reloading gets expensive quick

[west sorrel]

Especially with the ammo changes a while back

[upper walrus]

we all know we aint deconning empty fuel rods

[uncut cedar]

People already like to have collect 8k items at their subs

[upper walrus]

till the game has a stroke because of the item amount

[uncut cedar]

Yeah

[uncut cedar]

Most of public players just keep buying new ones instead of refilling them

[upper walrus]

we do not concern ourselves with the unwashed masses

actually havent played public in a long time, wonder what theyre up to

[fleet delta]

up to no good

[upper walrus]

fair enough

[plain dagger]

tbf nothing recent has broken non lua mods afaik.
Just some changes that means mods might not match newer vanilla standards where applicable

Like blueprints existing hasnt broken existing mods

Just might seem off if a mod doesnt use them

[lucid briar]

Or if a mod uses a different blue print system/feature

[plain dagger]

Like my talent rework

[lucid briar]

Literally the mod I thought about

[lucid briar]

Btw, what will you do about it?

[plain dagger]

Still not certain

Currently might just make the research notes the same but then when combined it turns into a regular blueprint

[lucid briar]

Can we get findable notes pls?

[plain dagger]

Probably not

[lucid briar]

Aww

[plain dagger]

Kinda pointless anyway

As you need an engineer to have the talents to research

As no research place without him

Though you can rarely find the full blueprints for vanilla ones

[lucid briar]

(the captain is never online and I want a hand cannon ammo blueprint)

[plain dagger]

Tragic

Though I assume thats from an addon

As base talent rework doesn't do handcannon psure

[lucid briar]

If you decide to redo the talent into something different, I suggest a nuclear explosive.

[lucid briar]

Forgo about that part

Need to add a second nuke to my nuke

[plain dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/jackass-3d-couch-explosion-gif-25176966

[lucid briar]

Well you'd need to redo most of the tree I think

So don't think it'd be worth scraping the blueprint station altogether tbh

[plain dagger]

Probably not no

[wary dome]

can you make an hmg blueprint?

[solemn iron]

damn, this is insane ragebait, like, yeah, vanilla is the most boring thing I have ever witnessed, but like, oh no, the game had an update, I have to wait a day or 2 for the mods list to be updated and now I have less bugs to deal with, man, this is clearly a net negative

[fickle peak]

Never noticed a difference with updates

So I just don't want them anymore

[north locust]

The updates usually break mods even if they are extremely small, and most updates don't do anything of importance, instead of dropping small updates constantly they should just drop progress notes and do bigger updates so that people that actually play the game (most of em do so with mods) don't have to get fucked over every 2 weeks or so

[solemn iron]

https://tenor.com/view/julian-smith-gun-gif-27124747

[fleet delta]

It would be best if they instead released separate versions (like Minecraft) so even if there's multiple updates, you could still play the same mods on previous version

[west sorrel]

You can

[solemn iron]

every game ever made should allow you to roll back to whatever version you want and I will die on this hill

[fleet delta]

Project zomboid W - despite updating b42 its mods stay

[solemn iron]

well, wait

[fleet delta]

But can't with mods

[solemn iron]

I guess except exclusively online games like battlebit

[west sorrel]

You can as well

[fleet delta]

If somebody new joins and downloads them after update, there will be mismatch

[fleet delta]

Meant to reply here

[solemn iron]

ok, thought so

[fleet delta]

Never played battlebit so can't tell

[solemn iron]

a big team battle fps, no offline mode, it is only pvp, rolling back versions wouldn't even make sense

[north locust]

Too bad Battlebit is dead, cool game

[solemn iron]

it isnt dead? I can still consistently get lobbies when I hop on

[scenic marsh]

You mean make updates more mod-friendly, like with the implementation of partial overrides?

I think that's the problem you have, not with the updates themselves.

[high holly]

So which one is it, do they get updated too slowly or too quickly?

I'll humor you and explain, the reason for these (from your pov) useless updates is to improve the game for the most common denominator, the folks who just plug & play

One of the consequences to being a more advanced player is that you're part of a vocal minority group which isn't worth the devs time to focus on from a business standpoint

So put your money where your mouth is and send the modders a buck or two for making the content you actually enjoy, they've asked for nothing back and you don't strike me as particularly thankful tbh

[fickle peak]

I'm not thankful

Fuck em

[fickle peak]

Too many updates, too little worth updating over

[high holly]

Very well

[fleet delta]

Has pretty much same charts as mordhau and when you start seeing the same nicknames again and again you know it's not good

Wouldnt call it dead but wouldnt call it alive either

[solemn iron]

Eh, small dedicated playerbase have the potential to be the best, as long as I can always get a lobby I will be happy

[fast walrus]

For fucks sake, guys they did it again

[fickle peak]

Dw vanilla tards will glaze it as some kind of 2nd coming of christ

[solid apex]

REJOICE.
IT IS THE 108TH COMING OF CHRIST

[north crow]

Finally, it's been too long.

[solid apex]

TOO long INDEED

[plain dagger]

Betcha can't wait till the next hotfix related to the current ddosing

[fickle peak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1235580445601693716/1423733358940258529/image.png?ex=68e16284&is=68e01104&hm=8d963e68eaf54f3be3c36f47d9c8047ddd23a5e1e7d9207daf4557ab66ac7d98&

new update is even shitter

[uncut cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-4k-caught-in4k-chungus-gif-19840038

[north crow]

At least FlochEnjoyer has created a containment zone for himself here in baro-ideas.

[fickle peak]

blud rly just posted a pic of him breaking tos 😭

yeah im on steroids I get like that sometimes

hence why I deleted it

ok I am sorry wtf am I saying

im very mentally ill and im on gear cut me some slack

gn

[solid apex]

nono son it's okay

you just said you're on steroids

gn

[pulsar yew]