Rework talents please

[loud tree]

I feel some talent trees are just straight garbage like assistants grey shirt and now nerfed clown talent tree but this doesn’t mean others don’t need reworks like medic and security, I get this probably won’t happen but a man can dream

[runic idol]

The only real problem I have with talents are that assistant gets an evil talent tree, but no husk tree, other than that yeah, some of them are just useless

[stable pine]

the clown tree was nerfed?? when

[left finch]

A long time ago

[wanton berry]

I want Tinkering back

For my crew I am a madman who tinkers with components and tries to squeeze every bit of efficiency.
Tinkering mechanic will be very suitable for me.

[lime sky]

76th talent rework

[lime sky]

TINKERING MY BELOVED

[pliant knot]

What did it do?

[lime sky]

Basically let mechanics tinker with any device for a period of time boosting its stats for the duration

faster fabricator, faster pump, faster engine, more damage with a turret ect ect

[pliant knot]

For the turret did you have to exit the sub?

Also I assume replaced with the over repair talent?

[lime sky]

From loader

[pliant knot]

That looks wierd

[lime sky]

I would reduce its values for modern baro but the idea is great

As it adds so much more interactivity and cooperation

[pliant knot]

I feel it could be added back in and put mass production into the tinker thing

[lime sky]

Like this is what I did for my mod

For values I was a bit limited due to the only way to directly change them via xml was a multiplier

I couldnt do specifics for each

So halfed them

[pliant knot]

Idea

Every one of mechanic talent trees have it so it has 2 multi choice ones expect machinist

What is we make let it drain a multi choice

[lime sky]

imo 2 multi choices one should be in every tree

The only reason I can think of that not being the case is because of time constraints and lack of ideas for a new talent

[pliant knot]

In just saying for mechanic add a lot of multiple choice

And do let it drain or tinkerer

[lime sky]

You'd have to buff let it drain to make that balanced

Unless tinkerer was heavily gibbed instead

[pliant knot]

Oh wait they just remade tinkerer

[lime sky]

modern version sucks ass yeah

[pliant knot]

They kept quick fixer and tinkerer but remade it

What better quick fix or tinkerer modern ones

[lime sky]

Modern tinkerer isnt a bad idea on its own, but replacing old tinkerer with it was an insult

[pliant knot]

What elce can we call tinkerer either new or old to add it in so let it drain becomes a multi choice

[lime sky]

Call the new enhanced durability tinkerer "Durable"

[pliant knot]

Sure

[pliant knot]

Is that also your mod?

[lime sky]

ye

[pliant knot]

Where did you put tinkerer in your mod

[lime sky]

Last talent of Machanist

Whole changed talent list for reference:

[pliant knot]

So got rid of defence bots?

[lime sky]

Moved them to engineer in the full rework

Which is this

[pliant knot]

So you have just reworked every guy

[lime sky]

ye

[pliant knot]

wtf is heavy welder?

[lime sky]

Two handed backpack welding tool

https://imgur.com/wxh7AO6

[pliant knot]

Are the grey ones still the same?

[lime sky]

ye

[pliant knot]

I like didn’t hear no bell but also why remove speed bonus with mechanic

[lime sky]

With exosuit?

Because exosuit is already faster than most diving suits

While being thrice as tanky

I redesigned it to at least be slow instead of reducing its protection

[pliant knot]

Also as engineer now it’s not granteed to be gordan freeman with crowbar damage

[lime sky]

Yeah you get to choose if you want to go down the cranium crowbar smashing route

Or get the slightly less team killing now volatile rods

[pliant knot]

Also wait he can make fuel rods 2 quality higher with the default one and danger zones

[lime sky]

Yep

First one is mainly a help for early game fuel

Second one is declaring your love torwards your radiation poisoning job

[pliant knot]

Also I assume you also programmed which ones allow endocrine boosters

[lime sky]

in full rework ye

Redid the talents it gives to be adjusted to new talents

[pliant knot]

Also you jsut made egghead worse by making it weaker having less health and a tier 2 talent

[lime sky]

Its an xp speed run talent

[stable pine]

ur talent rework is so cool i cant wait to play it in a modded campaign over summer 🙏

[pliant knot]

What did you do with prodigy

[lime sky]

Similar to other "Until lvl 5 gain bonus xp" talents

[pliant knot]

Also does research station give you power to craft eny guns by finding one?

[lime sky]

Gotta find multiple and not any gun but yes

Its limited to "regular guns"

Which is:
Revolver,
Machine Pistol,
SMG,
Shotgun,
Rifle

[stable pine]

does response crew have a cooldown?

[lime sky]

Nope

Though I'll probably adjust the medic boost

[stable pine]

so if you're under constant attack everyones constantly buffed

[lime sky]

yes

Spineling swarms funny

[pliant knot]

Can you research the ammo for the gun?

[lime sky]

Yep

Same thing as needing a lot of them

[pliant knot]

That is useful I usaly get a bot to handle it

[lime sky]

Yeah

I wanted to design it so engineer can over time provide basic weapons if you dont have security

while security is quick access + bonuses on top related to the weapon

For example, shotgun gives 10% more damage on close enemies.
SMG gives bandolier which itself boosts firerate

[stable pine]

i love ur gunslinger class, me and my friends were annoyed at the fact it was kinda geared towards "you're better with revolvers and dual wielding" then the last perk is you get a weapon that can't be dual wielded

[pliant knot]

Bandolier always needed a buff

[lime sky]

its quite funny that vanilla gunslinger lone wolf buffs melee

So I changed that to buff firerate

[stable pine]

exactlyyy

[pliant knot]

Also wait what frogman gives rifle now? I want crusty seaman but I need slip suits

Mabye put shotgun in boarding party

[lime sky]

Hard choices

Rifle is down that talent tree to match with specops

Which does 100% more damage on first shot

[pliant knot]

Rifle doesn’t really make sence for a boarding party in my opinion

Fair enough but still feel shotgun makes more sence

[lime sky]

getting shotgun that late would be meh tho

[pliant knot]

Mabye put slip suit in spec ops

[lime sky]

My focus was
First tree: high accuracy/high damage per shot: harpoons/rifle
Second Tree: frantic kill weapons: grenade launcher/autoshotgun
Third tree: sustained firerate weapons: assault rifle

[pliant knot]

Also why protect and serve no longer give rep did you think it was too op

[lime sky]

Nah I like how its a hard choice between "selfish" tankiness vs crew wide great diving suits

[lime sky]

Yeah I did try to reduce rep gain across the board

That one was extremely problematic due to stacking

Even captain's rep talents didnt go untouched

With the one boosting rep being the one that also decreases rep heavily

So you cant as easily sit the fence

[loud tree]

damn i didnt know this would get so much attention

[lime sky]

It is every baro unstable frequenters civic duty to complain about talents

[empty steeple]

A beautiful tradition.

[lime sky]

Me making a full rework is my way of complaining

[empty steeple]

Some of the best complaints so far.