Double Chaingun and Double Pulse Laser

[dusky sapphire]

I believe these will add much needed variety to the heavy hardpoints options of the cooperative submarine simulator game in space Barotrauma™️

[ripe comet]

Double chaingun with HE ammo

[solid solstice]

Just the assault chaingun from starsector lol

[serene bronze]

Utilitary turret types small hardpoints like giant plasma cutter, repair, or even acid ||''but there are mods of that 🤓'' NO I WANT IT IN VANILLA||

[hardy dew]

Please no more with the double trouble type weapons

Although with the double laser idea, may i instead advocate for a tls style weapon
Just a concentrated beam laser that drains ammo fairly quickly but you get crazy dps from it

[latent frigate]

All weapons are unique

The coil gun is the "vanilla" gun so it makes a bit sense there is a better version of it

But changing and Pulslaser wouldn't be fun

Also the rail gun is a bit like a big Pulslaser
Both do sing strong shots

And the flak is a bit like a stronger chair gun with being made to spray in groups

So this would be not a good addition to the game

[hardy dew]

I didnt mean a bigger pulse laser if this was addressed to me

But rather a continuous beam weapon

Something like the tls from ace combat

[hardy dew]

The different kinds of ammunitions makes it overlap the railgun and the laser
Its honestly probably better than the railgun considering the amount of shots you have
Railgun also has completely different damage type to the laser, the latter focusing on burn type damage
Which makes it shine in areas other weapons dont

With the heavy hardpoints theres a significant lack of any kind of chemical/energy based weapons/damage and i personally feel having a weapon of that calibre and niche would bring about some diversity to the heavy hardpoints

[rotund dew]

Make this and have the chaingun have a overheat to balance it (may be good may be bad idk I just think it'd work well)

[dusky sapphire]

Maybe we should add a half railgun too

[craggy drift]

This is easy to do in the editor. And let it remain a feature of specific submarines.

[hardy dew]

Tbh i dont think new weapons should have that kind of mindset
With how weapons are now they have 2 major things that differentiate themselves

1. The damage type they do and the amount of damage they do
2. The variance that comes from their ammo type
   Having a half railgun seems a bit counterproductive, considering how well designed the current railgun is rn.

[dusky sapphire]

Okay but what about a half double coilgun

[hardy dew]

Having a stronger version/weaker version of a currently existing weapon doesnt make much sense considering how power and strength is measured in this games balance. That is, how powerful you are isnt measured linearly in progression, but rather with the availability of materials.

A good example that emphasises this is the coilgun

[hardy dew]

Yes one could see the coilgun as the basic bitch of all weapons but once you have the means to produce exotic ammo types, its arguably one of the best turrets in the game

Explosive ammo on the coilgun/double coilgun is some looney toons shit

[dusky sapphire]

Its gotten nerfed quite a bit tbf

Physicorium is now better imho

Which is good

Though

Explosive ammo you can get cheaper if you farm for it I suppose

[hardy dew]

Perhaps
But without a doubt the coilgun is crazy powerful because of the sheer variance in its munitions type
And id argue its necessary that future turrets keep that in mind

[dusky sapphire]

This is why we should add a quarter coilgun

[hardy dew]

😑

I advocate for a grenade launcher instead

With the option of chemical warheads

Any kind of option that makes use of different materials in a way that other weapons currently dont

And i think a grenade launcher is a good start

[dusky sapphire]

One turret I'm thinking of working on myself is a small hardpoint steam turret

||Btw this entire thread is a shitpost||

[hardy dew]

Maybe we can have some variets that do stuff like paint a target with a pheromone that make other creatures hostile towards it

Creative way to deal with swarms

gives the medic something

[dusky sapphire]

Dementonite ammo

I think we are getting a railgun using it

Except its like some gravity thing

[hardy dew]

I saw in unstable

Gravity shells

Flak is getting gravity as well, which im not a fan of, it just looks like a better alternative to the railgun

[dusky sapphire]

Flak is more useful than railgun in most scenarios imo at least

[hardy dew]

Railgun should be buffed ong

[dusky sapphire]

Mainly because railgun is cbt to maintain

[hardy dew]

I just feels like all it needs is a damage buff

[dusky sapphire]

It would help

[hardy dew]

I like the shells that we have rn (and the new grav shell would be good too)

Canister is a great shell type

[dusky sapphire]

Canister is great

Its just juggling shells

Thats the main drawback of railguns

it requires a lot of manpower during a fight compared to every other option

[hardy dew]

Yeah railgun needs a buff imo

[dusky sapphire]

The dual wielding shells has helped quite a lot

[hardy dew]

We need placeable railgun racks

[dusky sapphire]

I feel like ammo racks could be reworked entirely imo

So that it depends on what turret you have

Course it wouldn't work with current setup

You'd need 1 per turret

Which not all subs have

So I reckon it would have to be an opt in via link

That way you wouldn't have wasted space if you choose to not use x turret

Granted this is only a railgun issue as per usual

Railgun really is the black sheep

[hardy dew]

Anyways
Some cool turret types that i think could be cool

1. Grenade launcher (chemical warheads included)
2. Concentrated beam weapon (with nuclear beam type and stun beam type)
3. Tesla coil (because funi)

[dusky sapphire]

I think a tesla coil would have variety problems

Pulse laser is already hard to avoid burns with

[hardy dew]

I was thinking mortar but that clashes with the railgun

[dusky sapphire]

A bit yeah

[hardy dew]

I still think some sort of mlrs weapon would be cool too but i get the notion that perhaps the barotrauma devs are less likely to add something like that

Which is a shame

It doesnt even have to be guiding

[brittle ginkgo]

Maybe we just need more ship mounted weapons to begin with

[quiet stag]

Chaingun is already a heavy gun.

[dusky sapphire]

Your right, we need a Half Chaingun

[serene bronze]

triple chaingun tho

[quiet stag]

Also, before we get a double laser, the original laser needs more ammo types. Just one more box. Or two. Expensive piercing laser and ineffective against large targets zappy laser.

[hardy dew]

Stun laser and nuclear laser pls

[quiet stag]

You already have a handheld nuclear laser, so there's that.

[hardy dew]

yeah so why not chuck that on the pulse laser too

give the recipe to the engineer too

[quiet stag]

Could be fun.

[ripe comet]

Quad chainguns, railguns, flakguns, laser guns and coilguns

[dusky sapphire]

You should be head of baro balancing

[ripe comet]

Quad railguns

[hardy dew]

Toolgun

[dusky sapphire]

Now were cooking

[ripe comet]

Full auto

[dusky sapphire]

Dear god

[latent frigate]

No

It's wnough

It's very strong per shot but has no other wualitys

If you wanna be versatile use a coilgun