unlock recipes as an option for servers

[potent whale]

if you're in a small group and you can't really make everything, then there should be an option that unlocks all recipes. i imagine for things like HMG and the like, you would need to invest a certain amount of points to be able to unlock that recipe and then you would get it (like you would need to max out a skill tree to unlock all those recipes).

[karmic flame]

would be good for station servers or just cheating in campaign, sounds cool

[keen helm]

I think

mission mode already unlocks recipes

I know its not just for mission mode

but most station servers would be

[karmic flame]

fair point

[potent whale]

i mean needing a full crew just to actually use your resources is kind of lame personally

[brave flicker]

"Needing a medic to be able to craft more advanced medical items is lame imo"

Just hire a medical bot???

[potent whale]

did they add bots actually crafting things since i last played

last i played u could only do that if u were singleplayer

since u could actually control them

[brave flicker]

No. The recipes are seemingly unlocked for everyone if it's a bot

[potent whale]

oh shit

[brave flicker]

That has the talent

[potent whale]

oh

[brave flicker]

And you can manage a bot talents

From tab menu

[potent whale]

they finally added that 🔥 🔥

so nvm on this

thanks tho

[karmic flame]

damn

[brave flicker]

..
I'm pretty sure it's been this way at least for a year?
Maybe less but still quite a while

[potent whale]

i havent played in about as much time

[brave flicker]

I wish devs would make it so that ALL talents did this, not just recipes

Like, over half of them do literally nothing when on a bot

[karmic flame]

like the +1 crafting tier for certain items?

[brave flicker]

Right
Or any of the ones that require the bots to actually do something

Clowns barely wanna wear their masks, and for example won't use clown hammer or bike horn

And the worst part is, it's unmarked

So a new player would be completely unaware that they don't do shit, so they'd end up wasting half of their talents

[karmic flame]

i feel like it wouldn’t be hard to make bots with that talent smack their downed teammates with a toy hammer or squeak the bike horn every 10 seconds, but then again, barotrauma code

[brave flicker]

It wouldn't

The hard part is making it so that bots make good decisions

[karmic flame]

fair point

wouldn’t want them running at somebody who’s getting eaten by a horde of raptors

but the bike horn one wouldn’t cause too much issue

[brave flicker]

E.g. if they have 5000% melee damage with crowbars, they should probably go find a fucking crowbar instead of fighting with wrench and screwdriver

[karmic flame]

they should probably run away

i’ve had a ton of bots

crowd around

enemies

killing then with fucking welders

[brave flicker]

Yeah it's so dumb

[karmic flame]

i have a 50 BMG let me take care of it goddamn

or at least let the security do it

[brave flicker]

Why welders. There are plenty of weapons. Or just run the fuck away.

[karmic flame]

the worst part, they run away if it’s YOU attacking them

so they can run away

it’s possible

but they don’t

[brave flicker]

They do? Cuz it feels like they're determined to stand in the way so that nobody can shoot without killing them

Or repair the device right in front of 5 mudraptors

[karmic flame]

if you were to shoot them they try to run away

if they’re on the same team as the person that attacked them

[brave flicker]

Yeah but
I don't want to accidentally shoot a bot in the head with a handcannon

[karmic flame]

time after time when they anger me a little too much i go back into my armor, grab a rocket launcher, and just open fire, restart round, repeat

it’s like bot hell

[keen helm]

Dont wanna encourage bot hoarding too much

It would have to be limited list

[karmic flame]

i’m saying that they do have the behavior to run away from attackers, but they only do it when somebody ON THEIR TEAM is attacking them

[keen helm]

If having 16 bots makes your entire crew super giga chad op talent stacking there will be problems

[karmic flame]

how else do you use a tier 3 sub in singleplayer

[brave flicker]

The do not touch command exists.

[keen helm]

Thats not what I mean

Bot hoarding as in making bots too good to pass up in multiplayer

they actively make the game worst for players

[brave flicker]

Bots being good doesn't mean they're as good as players lol

[karmic flame]

you mean making them function

[brave flicker]

A player is way more valuable than a bot

Because they can do shit

[karmic flame]

try clearing a nest with 3 bots vs 3 players

[keen helm]

not when a whole crew of bots takes all the jobs

[karmic flame]

you’ll see the difference

[keen helm]

Have you played on servers where they spam bots

Its fucking boring

[brave flicker]

So maybe don't hire 16 bots

[karmic flame]

not really, most of the times i see it happen i leave

[keen helm]

But if bots now give entire crew wide boosts on a bunch of talents

[brave flicker]

DON'T play on dogshit servers

[karmic flame]

and it’s pretty rare for me at that

[keen helm]

You want to hire bots for those boosts

[brave flicker]

Not asking for this lmao

[keen helm]

TRUE

[brave flicker]

Just asking for 90% of the talents to not be useless :)

[karmic flame]

bots get killed extremely quick in multiplayer too

they don’t respawn, their self preservation is non-existent

they swim outside of the fucking sub randomly

they aren’t op, and making their talents work as advertised isn’t going to make them op

[keen helm]

I dont think that bots themselves are op

I'm fine with bots having multiplayer talents that do stuff crew wide to a degree

like fabrication

I think thats what you guys want to

Just you want to limit what talents are crew wide to stuff like that

thats all

[heavy valve]

I got some old code that evil factory wrote that unlocks all recipes for everyone.