Idea is that after your unconscious bar runs out you fully die. Like, biological brain death, with no way to 'heal' it. So maybe just buff vitality instead?
#Resuscitate dead characters (Permadeath Update)
burnt dome
lilac hatch
This game already has CPR
Why not take it 1 step further with a resuscitate feature?
high thicket
The thing is
lilac hatch
Depending on what they died from of course
high thicket
thats what getting someone out of a downed state is
lilac hatch
That'd be perfect for this game
high thicket
dead is when its too late
lilac hatch
thats what getting someone out of a downed state is
Hm
I want those movie moments where the doc is like 'Call it, he's dead'
And the assistant is like 'damn you live!'
And he zaps him 5 times
burnt dome
That's neurotrauma for you
lilac hatch
That's neurotrauma for you
I'm not into mods much. Neurotrauama seemed overcomplicated for this game at first glace
Haven't given it another look
sharp void
I want those movie moments where the doc is like 'Call it, he's dead'
That’s the thing
When someone is in the unconscious state that’s because they’ve undergone cardiac arrest
That’s why you have to do CPR
fickle elk
also neuro is stupid if doctor wants to touch u and rip ur limb and organ off u have no chance lmfao
sharp void
Once that bar is gone they’ve either bleed all their blood or brain death has occurred
fickle elk
touch u owo immediately u are drugged and unconscious and u missing all ur limbs xD and heart
also yeah maybe defib has like 1 minute timer
and has like 20% to work xD
fickle elk
also yeah maybe defib has like 1 minute timer
from when theyre dead dead
high thicket
I want those movie moments where the doc is like 'Call it, he's dead'
The in game version of this is that second healthbar while they are on the floor
sharp void
A defib only assists in restoring an ordinary heart rate
high thicket
Granted because of the way healing works in game you can often slap blood into them and they get up
sharp void
Only does anything if the heart is beating or you’re doing CPR
And we already have CPR
fickle elk
or defib can extend their heart rate or slow down second health bar maybe
fickle elk
they limited injection speed for this reason kek
sharp void
The only way a defib could be useful while still making sense would be just making CPR even faster
sharp void
Something like the miracle in progress trait?
I mean a defib won’t do anything unless somebody is actively doing CPR, or the heart is still beating
But that’s if we want to be true to how they work in real life
lilac hatch
Once that bar is gone they’ve either bleed all their blood or brain death has oc...
I think after the unconscious vitality bar runs out - it should go into overtime where you start 'burning' skills. Once your skills reach 0 you're '100% brain dead'
fickle elk
yeah it slowly decays temporary health like a morphine shot with no downsides: downsides is you can only use it once per person and a 3 minute cooldown on a person
sharp void
If we don’t care then we have a lot more options
fickle elk
so defib just buys u more time
sharp void
I think after the unconscious vitality bar runs out - it should go into overtime...
I mean that seems like a very interesting way to add a second safety net, but it’s up to the devs to decide if players need more time to revive people
high thicket
oh i got it, defib grants “temporary health”
This is how I wish morphine worked but might be too complicated for vanilla tbf
sharp void
yeah it slowly decays temporary health like a morphine shot with no downsides: d...
When do you use it? Conscious or unconscious?
fickle elk
I think after the unconscious vitality bar runs out - it should go into overtime...
maybe lol still good idea xD
lilac hatch
I mean that seems like a very interesting way to add a second safety net, but it...
Yeah thats why I made this idea post! haha
fickle elk
This is how I wish morphine worked but might be too complicated for vanilla tbf
yeah true
high thicket
Bit like left 4 dead pills basically
It will keep you going till you get home
but to get your full health back you will need to spend more time healing on the sub
sharp void
Biggest thing about defib is do we care about how they operate in real life
If we don’t then we have a lot more options for gameplay
high thicket
Biggest thing about defib is do we care about how they operate in real life
nah not really
sharp void
Ok, then the concept of temporary help or some sort of tool for ‘super CPR’ would work
Sounds like something EK would do
I believe there are several defib mods that do something similar if you guys want the latter
high thicket
I wish liquid oxygenite was good 
shut bloom
they limited injection speed for this reason kek
It still works
But players can run away
Thats what 4 fentanyl is for
shut bloom
The only way a defib could be useful while still making sense would be just maki...
True
silk owl
my fellow american i've been here a while
sharp void
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silk owl
check oldest message cuh
anyway
this new addition seems cool ngl
like people with masochism gonna like it
sharp void
Real
scenic junco
Interesting idea.. I mean dead should be dead, I get that, maybe it's mroe a balance where you can have things like gear (emergency Defib) attached to your chest which will trigger (at x% health?) to revive you/make temporariyl mobile (not heal) from an unconscious state automatically before you die (maybe enough time to get to medbay or back to sub, etc.) ....also like general skills "vitamins" or other kinds of consumables that improve how long you can be incap'd before dying ... maybe a perk as you said that will drain skills as a "fuel" preventing death and giving you a little extra chance to get back up (the more "seasoned" a veteran you are, the more willpower/chance of survival, kinda deal I think would fit...with a toll/scars of course)
controversial idea, but I think you're on to something nonetheless!
wheat glen
this is bad idea, permadeath is suppose to be challenging.
shut bloom
yeah that was the whole purpose
i think character permadeath is good
maybe even hardcore
but adding all these things just removes the whole purpose
lilac hatch
I'm not trying to negate permadeath -
lilac hatch
this is bad idea, permadeath is suppose to be challenging.
I agree it's supposed to be challenging! But seriously just adding a vanilla defibrillator is a good idea
It should've already been in the game - this permadeath update is the perfect time to implement it!
I'm not sure about an automatic one. Obviously it won't work on torn up people or fellas who died form blood loss or radiation blah blah stuff like that
Sucks how quickly people shit on this idea
high thicket
If defib slowed down bleedout and wasn't hotbar compatible maybe
Could be used for people to delay death when medic is busy
Resurrecting "DECEASED" characters is a no for me though
worn abyss
there already is a resuscitation mechanic; CPR when your health is between -100 and 0
there's no need to add yet another resuscitation mechanic beyond CPR (implying that now "actual death" is at -200 health instead of -100)
worn abyss
Sucks how quickly people shit on this idea
because it's a shit idea that adds nothing new to the game tbh
just do your "live damn it!1!" roleplay while the character is unconscious/dbno, problem solved
lilac hatch
because it's a shit idea that adds nothing new to the game tbh
just do your "liv...
No need to be rude
That's not really nice