reactor power on signal

[mental acorn]

How hard could it be

[primal flame]

You mean signal out?

[mental acorn]

no theres a shutdown signal but not a turn on signal

[primal flame]

I doubt developers want fully automated reactors

[kind granite]

Honestly I can see some very interesting wiring designs coming out of this, such as the reactor switching off automatically when load is very low and letting the batteries take over, turning back on again when load begins to pick back up. You could make some really nice fuel efficient reactors this way

Skilled engineers can already min-max the fuck out of the reactor despite the nerfs, so why not a little more

[flat field]

How would it handle auto-control and would having that pin benefit the game as a whole?

First question isn't a "gotcha" thing, more so a matter of how you'd want that feature to work.

But as for the second part, I think the fact that we can't turn on the reactor remotely feels very intentional.

It makes the idea of shutting down the reactor remotely more risky. You can do it if you're afraid of a meltdown happening, but you can't instantly change your mind afterwards. It's a commitment.

[soft pine]

Its also already possible

You can just turn heat and turbine to 0

[flat field]

That's true.

The only thing it doesn't prevent is a meltdown from reaching 0 condition, right?

[fervent pasture]

Tbh turbine doesn't matter in shutting down the reactor

[soft pine]

Probably cant say I know for sure

[fervent pasture]

In fact the quickest way to shut it down is setting turbine to 100 and fission to 0

[soft pine]

Makes sense

Cools it down much faster

[fervent pasture]

Tho it might overvoltage

[soft pine]

Free xp

[flat field]

I don't think I've experienced a reactor meltdown from it breaking once in my 700 or so hours.

[soft pine]

Same

[flat field]

Does the meltdown delay stat apply to when it reaches 0 condition?

Because if it does, then I've never even been close to witnessing it.

[soft pine]

Likewise

But yeah to summarise I think you are right that its an intentional limitation.
However you can already bypass it in game anyway

[quick bane]

Also shutting down reactor instantly nullifies turbine noise - imba for stealth

[flat field]

I don't mind that aspect of it, because stealth is only a barely viable strategy.

[fervent pasture]

The meltdown happens when reactor rapidly reaches 0% condition through explosion or smth like that

[flat field]

Can it reach 0% naturally from water damage?

[fervent pasture]

Yes it can, it just won't explode

It has to be through explosion

[flat field]

That's stupid.

[fervent pasture]

I mean i wouldn't want the reactor to blow up in the middle of reparing the ship after fighting with abbysal monster

Tho it could leak radiation

[boreal marten]

Well, EK shipyard has such feature on at least one reactor and its literally a status effect that says "pin is used, reactor ison = true

Its just that shrimple.

[flat field]

Neither would I, which is why I repair it regularly.

Reactor explosions are a complete non-issue as is. It should be an actual threat.

[boreal marten]

Now, answering the good questions beyond me want reactor turn on pin.

I feel that the reactor should keep track of whenever the auto-control is off or on, and just keep it when the reactor is turned on, and the why...

Well, automation, or depending on the sub in particular integration into the wiring systems tbh

I do imagine that someone out there, has a concept for a submarine who relinquishes the control of the reactor to a logic system, and would benefit by being able to turn it on when relevant.

[boreal marten]

Perhaps, a delay on start-up in general could discourage players from turning it off in the first place.

[flat field]

I mean, it does have a delay before it starts producing enough power, though that's only due to auto-control taking its time adjsuting the values.

[flat field]

Yeah, people love not playing the game.

[boreal marten]

To be fairrr

Its not that people dont like playing the game, but, that coming up with whack logic systems is a game of its own, oftentimes at odds with the "manual" players.

[soft pine]

While it is fun to make logic systems there is something to be said for people optimizing the gameplay out of the game

So many people use op automated subs and then get bored after an hour

[primal flame]

And after a while such people leave community, it gets smaller and in the end there are only devs left

[soft pine]

The devs dont play the game

[primal flame]

But they feed themselves from it

[flat field]

They feed on the lost souls. Those who lose their purpose in the game, drowning in the sea of circuits, eventually become food for Hex.

This is why circuit boxes were added.

[sacred tulip]

I think it was something along the lines of the devs' job being to protect the player from themselves

players unfortunately don't understand what's good for them almost all of the time

myself included

[soft pine]

People are still complaining that deconstructing was nerfed (these people likely still use reversal mods)

Engaging spending 3 hours in fabrication gameplay

[sacred tulip]

I think the deconstruction change was overall good for campaign

but it did have effects on other modes where the only way to fabricate was deconstructing

[soft pine]

True

Mission mode be like

[sacred tulip]

real

most changes the devs make are really good for campaign tbf

[soft pine]

It would be too confusing to have them be different though

[sacred tulip]

yeah

that's the issue

[soft pine]

mission mode should probably spawn some materials

[sacred tulip]

it could be modded the other way but then I lose the right to say I play vanilla

😔

[sacred tulip]

there is actually already a feature for spawning autofilled stuff differently outside of campaign

[soft pine]

exactly

[sacred tulip]

but it is not used much

[soft pine]

Yeah

[sacred tulip]

think it's only for armory guns

[soft pine]

And some other items but mostly armory

Just compare mission mode secure cabinet to campaign lol

[sacred tulip]

should really be a thing for virtually everything that autofills

more meds, mats, supplies etc out of campaign

[soft pine]

mission mode provides you with an entire arsenal

Campaign has a revolver and a harpoon

[sacred tulip]

and you get to burn the whole thing in one mission

that's why I love it

[soft pine]

ye

[gray echo]

Only vanilla item are affected, the decon result is part of the item code, not the decon one

[sacred tulip]

I know

Doesn't matter though

I prefer vanilla

Have no idea why everyone assumes my gripes are fine and dandy because I clearly play modded

[fervent pasture]

You are simply insufficient in your skills