somewhat more realistic bullet physics underwater.

[sage tangle]

regular guns and ammunition are only lethal at point blank range when underwater. otherwise the projectiles just produce some cavitation bubbles as they slow down and drop to the floor after like 5-10 metres. railgun physics basically. i guess it could use the same status effect for when sodium cathes fire when in water. so i guess the gun can fire two different projectile types when that happens. one for out of water, other for underwater.

special underwater flechette guns and spear rifles are required to effectively slay creatures underwater. these spears, since they don't normally fly straight when not in water are only lethal at very close range. unless it's spinning like when fired from a coil rifle. to defeat armor underwater, the spears would need an insane amount of momentum. so mini shaped charges could work for that.

[fringe pumice]

My friend, the majority of gun usage is in the water in this game, this is an unnecessary realism change that makes the game worst to play

[sage tangle]

yeah ik. probably better as a mod

[fringe pumice]

For sure

[vagrant venture]

@sage tangle all the guns would only be able to hit something like 15cms infrount of it

[livid lark]

Harpoon gun should absolutely be king in the water.
I wouldn't nerf bullet weapons to being completely useless, but they should definitely be less functional than in dry conditions.

Guns are for fighting in the sub and in stations.
Harpoons are for underwater. Literally the whole reason harpoon guns even exist.

[sage tangle]

That's why I was saying "somewhat" realistic. Sort of inbetween. It's a niche feature not many people want and for good reason since there would need to be alot of new special weapons just for underwater use like Lead Diver mod

[vagrant venture]

Still no

[sage tangle]

But I don't like the fact that bullets pass through walls in that mod

[vagrant venture]

Use COR

[sage tangle]

What's that

Oh that

I'll probably try my hand at making an override mod for some 50% realistic underwater physics if I get decent at xml

[dreamy totem]

Go use a harpoon gun against a guardian

Then come back

[opal pier]

We need emp harpoons similar to exploding harpoons

[grand quartz]

Nuke harpoon when?

[opal pier]

Let us just place items in harpoons

Place a syringe? It injects it. Place any grenade? It explodes.

[dreamy totem]

We already have grenade launchers and syringe guns :c

I mean both are fairly useless

But we have em

[fringe pumice]

Unless you happen to find a high quality grenade launcher

it is objectively useless

compared to rifle