BetaRT - RTX For Minecraft Beta 1.7.3 (WIP)

[green nimbus]

already looks better than most shaders though

[hard chasm]

other than held items, i think the biggest hurdle next is getting transparencies to work correctly, at least in a way that resembles vanilla

i tried with clouds already and it was a horrible noisy mess

[simple garnet]

I agree, especially the way it handles mobs and anything dynamic! And compared to radiance, I'd much rather be locked into playing 1.7.3 than 1.21.4

Also the fact you put distance fog into the game puts it way above radiance to me too! I don't like how radiance and even some shaders don't really put any effort into hiding the view distance edge of the world

[fallen birch]

Radiance would like a word

Also there’s no shaders on b1.7.3 so this is a first, lol

Everyone give @hard chasm a kiss

[hard chasm]

💋

[green nimbus]

I mean maybe now after they fixed the gamma stuff (It took them like 2 months to fix it after I had told the developers it was an issue)

[simple garnet]

seriously im so thankful for this project, @hard chasm is a hero

[golden patio]

[split zodiac]

[hard chasm]

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[final mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-blackbeard-writing-taking-notes-writing-gif-17583038544116987898

[hard chasm]

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[final mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-writing-fire-kino-fire-writing-writing-heresy-gif-11807626591004898582

[hard chasm]

f

[final mountain]

ran out of gif

[rare knot]

https://tenor.com/view/р-gif-309276661344808579

[golden patio]

📝

[hard chasm]

flickering on held items is finally fixed good lord

transparent stuff next

[pliant owl]

What OpenGL version is this?

[hard chasm]

GL 2.1, but the wrapper is not dependent on the render API

[pliant owl]

So you say it would be possible to do pretty much any version of OpenGl, what about an instance where GL 3.3 core profile with select 4.0+?

[hard chasm]

this wrapper is hooking game functions rather than anything sent to GL, so this has nothing to do with GL

so it would work for any MC version when manually ported

so even minecraft vulkan for instance

[fallen birch]

https://tenor.com/view/dew-it-galactic-republic-palpatine-gif-21847982

[hard chasm]

no

[pliant owl]

Hm Im curious to see your source once out to better understand "manually ported". Im really interested in picking it apart for Hytale compatibility, which is OpenGL

[fallen birch]

Isn’t obfuscation removed from Minecraft now?

[hard chasm]

as in static addresses from the decompiled game jar

[terse depot]

Submitting meshes to remix api

[hard chasm]

so if hytale is not based on MC, you'd essentially be starting from scratch

[terse depot]

Very cool trick

[hard chasm]

ye but like i said before, it would probably be easier to mess with radiance than this

[hard chasm]

to better match vanilla and for gameplay reasons, you can make the sky leak through the fog now

[unique pulsar]

this looks better than radiance honestly

[hard chasm]

it looks ugly in remix but it was weird to see shadows with opaque fog lol

for reference

[pliant owl]

How do you run a game parallel like that with Remix on/off same time?

[hard chasm]

^

so the game is technically always rendering both the GL output and native remix output

[terse depot]

Hey @hard chasm how are you handling tons and tons of blocks without killing the perf?

[hard chasm]

its very gpu bound rn

[terse depot]

What about the cpu?

[hard chasm]

not really

[terse depot]

I'm getting 5 fps with 500 objects instanced 12k times

[fallen birch]

I’m always CPU bound

[misty fractal]

In betaRT? Or beamNG 🤔

[terse depot]

[pbeamg

cr never replied

[misty fractal]

lol

[terse depot]

@hard chasm

[misty fractal]

The man demands your presence

[hard chasm]

guh what am i replying to

[terse depot]

#1493835790801965116 message

fckig

[final mountain]

what is one meant to say to that

[hard chasm]

i have no idea how beamng works so i cant really do anything with this information

betart already uses MC's existing chunk system to batch meshes so the draw call count is rather low

most of the perf hits I run into is rendering all of the underground caves + the thousands of alpha-tested meshes

OMMs constantly run out of budget

i tried turning them into real meshes based on empty pixel data, and while that rendered fine, it absolutely murded perf

[terse depot]

hm

[sonic dagger]

the more complex games all run like shit and I'm concerned that there isn't a solution

I have been looking for one for a week straight for Skyrim

[terse depot]

I guess I can implement culling

Counter intuitive but it's the best way forward

[sonic dagger]

it will help for sure but not too much unfortunately

[terse depot]

I also made changes to the runtime to disable tlas rebuild for static geometry. That gave me 30 frames

[sonic dagger]

I'll send you the culling implement I have for Skyrim. you can give that to the llm and it can implement a similar version for beamng

[terse depot]

Frustum culling after a set distance should help as well

[sonic dagger]

I think I will shift from researching the plugin side to the remix side for perf improvements

[terse depot]

That's a good place to work, yeah

[hard chasm]

oh shit i never thought about trying that

that would probably help gmod the most

[sonic dagger]

an indoor scenes Skyrim runs at 60fps. but outside it runs anywhere between 30 and 60. this is without skinned meshes too so I'm kind of concerned

right now fallout 4 runs around 10 FPS because it doesn't have any culling and it's loading a huge amount of chunks that it doesn't need

I'm hesitant to put a lot more time into these mods because they might just never be playable

[hard chasm]

optimization passes are going well

chunks with ice are somehow considered completely invisible

[pliant owl]

Wall hacks

[hard chasm]

ah this is so much better

if a space cannot physically trace to the player, it wont render

how is that for performance lmao

[green nimbus]

damnnn

[hard chasm]

almost GPU limited on a rtx 5080 @ 1080p ultra perf

[green nimbus]

is that general idea applicable to other games you think?

[hard chasm]

possibly but it heavily depends if the game can compute that

i modded it into 1.7.3

[green nimbus]

ahhh

[hard chasm]

caves

this is on a different save so ill see if it actually dynamically updates when traversing

it does

peak

[green nimbus]

I'd be happy to get that kind of performance without PT lmao

[hard chasm]

the game is very confused

apparently remix is running faster but im assuming game fps is tied to ticks

btw render distance is veeeery expensive for BetaRT

like dont use far otherwise you're just begging your GPU to crawl

normal and below perform well

[unique pulsar]

it'll totally be fine on my GPU which is worse than a 5080

[hard chasm]

wait i just realized, remix is literally double of the game

guhhh

so which is the correct FPS

[unique pulsar]

I'd trust Minecraft

[hard chasm]

yeah, input is still being fed to the GL window so i guess even if remix is running faster, input latency is quite poor if you're at like 30fps

ideally i just kill off the vanilla GL renderer but that is gonna be a huge undertaking

[unique pulsar]

At least making everything pbr would be easy, it's just 1 texture

Thanks autocorrect

[hard chasm]

ye we dont have to worry about that already, remix loads its own version of the texture atlas split into different parts

im more worried about UI and input handling

im gonna have to fork LWJGL to make an native vulkan port

actually no i'd just integrate it into remix directly

[unique pulsar]

Good luck with that

[hard chasm]

yeep will not be fun but i think it will pay off

[sonic dagger]

i implemented this in gta 3 without even using the api, so yeah def

and skyrim has a similar system

[green nimbus]

sick

[hard chasm]

i wouldnt say this is the same thing

or rather not exactly

[sonic dagger]

i know it differs. but the concept is similar

[hard chasm]

this dramatic lighting looks sooooo sick holy

it reminds me of sodium streetlamps at night irl

[sonic dagger]

i love this

[hard chasm]

the clouds slightly blocking the sun and then the room getting brighter as they pass holyyyy

0:34 for what im talkin about

[unique pulsar]

this looks like what I thought the game looked like years ago

looking forward to trying this eventually

yeah radiance can't replicate this at all

[hard chasm]

so why cant radiance? i havent tried that mod at all but i assume it would be the same since its path traced

[unique pulsar]

I'll take a screenshot of what it looks like

[hard chasm]

bro what

[pliant owl]

https://klipy.com/gifs/confused-white-persian-guardian-11--k01KQ6BGD1EEZA53PQNH80D07E6

Thats uh raytracing? Wheres the cool dynamic traced lighting/darkness! (not shitting on Radiances hardwork)

[unique pulsar]

this is the closest I can get

I wonder if seus ptgi can get it better lmao

[pliant owl]

Shows you how hard it is to raytrace this kind of stuff, NVIDIA is masterclass

[unique pulsar]

I will give some slack, radiance is still an alpha

[pliant owl]

True

[fallen birch]

I mean
NVIDIA is kind of the reason we have this type of RayTracing

I don't see AMD or Intel doing anything

[pliant owl]

[final mountain]

At least intel is trying to do anything at all
AMD may as well not exist as a company

[fallen birch]

yeah, AMD hasn't been doing anything lately besides "AI AI AI AI"

[final mountain]

And yet I never hear them brought up ever when it comes to ai

[fallen birch]

Hell, Sony is utilizing AMD better

PS5 Pro just got it's first Pathtraced game

at 4K using PSSR 2

mind you, PS5 Pro doesn't even have the full RDNA 4 feature set and is somehow showcasing the hardware better

AMD has completely abandoned PC gaming imo
and screwed over all their past supporters

[pliant owl]

Know its bad when the AMD Tater fries ya business 🥔

[unique pulsar]

seus doesn't look the same either

so good job nvidia

[fallen birch]

I love the AMD engineers, they've been the best and I love communicating with them
but the upper management? fuck them

[pliant owl]

Its always management man

[fallen birch]

yeah, and I'm not at all surprised when it came out to the public that some AMD employees left for NVIDIA and Intel

[hard chasm]

filler lighting (i wish top slabs worked in 1.7.3 🙁 )

[fallen birch]

what is this? Remix toolkit lights?

[hard chasm]

torches

[fallen birch]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-of-course-ohhhh-oh-that-makes-sense-gif-11896286840118452668

@hard chasm Will FSR 3.1 be added?

[hard chasm]

holy FUCK i love this moody lighting x2

something about it just scratches an itch

[hard chasm]

idk whenever i update the runtime

[fallen birch]

well I have two versions
one using imgui and the other newer remixgui

so it supports older and newer runtimes

[final mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/meowl-brainrot-meow-cat-owl-gif-6853013777130670640

Meowl mincraft skin I have to download now

[pliant owl]

Can we get a picture of some underwater lighting? And a picture of a cave with a lava pit?

[hard chasm]

1st one is a no-go because its currently opaque, so its pitch black underwater

i think i can find a lava pit somewhere

[pliant owl]

Dark cave highlighted by lava would look awesome Im sure

[fallen birch]

imma dream about this

[pliant owl]

Its very soothing to see all these images imo

[final mountain]

IM SO EXCITED

[golden patio]

backport villagers to 1.7.3 so we can have ray traced villagers on beta 1.7.3

[sonic dagger]

this is one of the prettiest remix games

[unique pulsar]

this is so peak

I tried to do this with multiple shaders and such but nothing can get this

I guess I can try the official minecraft rtx

oh my god they butchered the performance of it since I last played

I nearly got 200 fps with it before and now I get 55

[final mountain]

Im curious whats left to do for at this point this looks pretty complete from what ive seen

[unique pulsar]

but it can get a similar effect

[golden patio]

Translucents like water need changing

[final mountain]

That can be done in 2 seconds im not counting that

[unique pulsar]

so yeah it seems cr managed to make something more peak than any alternative

congrats

[golden patio]

Rain puddle thing xor did could be added?

[final mountain]

[unique pulsar]

I'm still waiting for the day I can play with the wither storm mod with ray tracing

[golden patio]

I don't even think zephyr-starlight works with 1.20.1.

At least there's a backport of PMWM ig

[unique pulsar]

I know the plan is to port the wither storm to 1.21.1

and technically it's already possible to have a "ray traced" wither storm but you get like 5 fps with some

and then you also can't see the beams in more than half of them

[fallen birch]

Also an NVIDIA implementation btw

[unique pulsar]

yep

[misty fractal]

ReSTIR PT Enhanced in Minecraft

With proper caustics

There was this one digital foundry video years ago where they tested an RT mod in Minecraft and built a pinhole camera, which somehow worked

[sonic dagger]

that was with the official RTX one

i messed with that and got it to work too

[fallen birch]

They haven’t even released the code

[misty fractal]

Oh yee I know. But the results are really good

Probably gonna be used for future games and with the RTX 60 series

[pliant owl]

CR where is the dark cave lava picture I requested?!

[split zodiac]

or nether dragon

[green nimbus]

is this performance with or without fg? curious

[hard chasm]

without fg

[green nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/white-guy-blinking-white-guy-blinking-wtf-gif-7831341

holy shit lol

[inland glen]

What res

[hard chasm]

1080p @ dlss ultra perf

[inland glen]

[hard chasm]

great numbers for remix

[final mountain]

480p gaming

[fallen birch]

I tried doing 1080p DLSS Ultra Performance yesterday to see how much fps I could get…I’m CPU bottlenecked, lmao

I love my shitty CPU

So instead of increasing fps, it just dropped GPU utilization to 30%

[hard chasm]

working on transparencies after i said i would like 10 times lmao

[final mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/meowl-brainrot-meow-cat-owl-gif-6853013777130670640

[final mountain]

Now make the diamond axe translucent

[hard chasm]

definitely not final, hopefully i can use the original water texture as a transmission map to keep the vanilla vibe

koolaid

looks decent in caves but RR is really messing it up outside

[final mountain]

Glowstone slabs

[hard chasm]

refraction

[pliant owl]

For Hytale I took the original texture then tried my best to match the blue color, transparency, and vertex deformations for waves from the original shader. Its really hit or miss, you should just treat this like how shaders treat water. Just make it look pretty imo

[hard chasm]

im pretty sure i can get the best of both worlds

if i cant do it with the existing material definitions in the runtime, i can always modify the runtime itself to make it work the way i need it

i really want this wrapper to respect the original game's art style as much as possible, definitely dont want to give it the "shader" treatment

[hard chasm]

it was the fucking sun volumetrics the entire time

MUCH better

you can adjust it btw

[final mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-owl-edit-meowl-gif-8468682295382375243

[pliant owl]

lava cave when?!

[hard chasm]

when i get to it lol

[pliant owl]

My bad not realizing that still needed work, not rushing 🤪

[hard chasm]

? lava already works, i literally just havent found a lava cave

[pliant owl]

Ah, well then get to mining!

[hard chasm]

remix why

i've seen this same issue on gmod rtx with particles when i switched back to nvidia, this doesnt happen at all on AMD

[final mountain]

Its SCENE SCALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ITS SCENE SCALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I had to deal with this in sonic adventure dx for 2 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hard chasm]

guh

i already fought with scene scale for everything else to work correctly

it cant be that

it was this 🥀

apparently the transmission/albedo on a translucent material will get culled by this value

[final mountain]

stupid

[hard chasm]

grrr nvidia

[final mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-a-prison-prison-jar-jar-meme-emoji-gif-10892917185588142162

[hard chasm]

true

🤤 water looks awesome when its not directly lit

i think its finally perfect now

[final mountain]

Are you going add subtle normal maps to blocks or are you going to keep them as-is

[hard chasm]

yes

literally my next idea

btw this setting is evil and was causing all of the weird flickering with fog and water, setting it to none fixes it and makes everything look better

i hate u RR

[final mountain]

RR Being simultaneously the worst and best thing ever

[hard chasm]

ok now time for water normals and underwater fog

help i am getting lost in the fog 🤤 🤤 🤤

this looks so aesthetically pleasing it's distracting me

[final mountain]

I know the feeling
Sometimes I just wanna take screenshots all day after working on something and making it look nice its addictive

[green nimbus]

hoping this works with better than adventure

[hard chasm]

isnt that like an entire overhaul

for context, optifine broke my mod

🙂

[green nimbus]

Oh

[hard chasm]

i can probably make it compatible tho dw

it will just take time

[final mountain]

I kinda doubt they changed the rendering all that much, mostly game functions and features I assume

[hard chasm]

ah true

[green nimbus]

who knows what they touched lol

[hard chasm]

i think i've had 20 responses with gemini 3.1, why did windsurf switch to daily limits 🥹

[unique pulsar]

pbr when

[final mountain]

how long did it take after opus came out for all AI IDEs to become terrible

[hard chasm]

not by me

[unique pulsar]

I was joking, I couldn't find a troll face emoji

[hard chasm]

[final mountain]

Ill probably do some roughness maps for me when this comes out but not normals because it would just look weird

[hard chasm]

i still need to fix your texture filtering issue from ultrakill, cuz the same issue is gonna happen here 🥀

[final mountain]

Then I can work on ultrakill for real

Damn ill be doing 3 (maybe 4) remix projects at once which is kinda crazy

[hard chasm]

im so burned out from doing that, BetaRT is like my vacation in a way

[final mountain]

Good thing with gens is that it already has pbr materials so I barely gotta do anything

[hard chasm]

i read this wrong 🥀 i thought you asked for water roughness maps

[final mountain]

I typed it wrong I thought I said water

[hard chasm]

i dont plan to do normals myself as the stock look is to mimic the vanilla game

[green nimbus]

pbr materials look unminecrafty anyways

[hard chasm]

i think you can probably make it work with the vanilla vibe but i dont really have the expertise there

[final mountain]

No normals, but only depth and roughness maps

Thats my plan

[golden patio]

The water is just missing caustics.

[golden patio]

Gotta have roughness maps for translucents when restir pt is added. No more noisy normal maps

[terse depot]

God damn

That water is

UGG

[golden patio]

It's a little too opaque imo. Needs less blue

[midnight shoal]

Hey guys all this looks pretty good

do we have a way to try this mod ?

[golden patio]

We gotta wait until CR makes it public

He's the only person working on this currently

[midnight shoal]

gotcha

[hard chasm]

feelings hurt 💔

what do you suggest to make it less "ugg"

[sonic dagger]

imo it's a bit on the bright/vibrant side, but it's def not ugly. i like it

[terse depot]

It's really not looking like water

[hard chasm]

Well it's not meant to look like real water

[terse depot]

It doesn't look like stlized water either

[hard chasm]

how would you make the vanilla water stylized 🥀

[fallen birch]

Probably like Minecraft RTX, keep the texture but make it more clear than blue

[misty fractal]

Keeping it blue would be stylized no?

[hard chasm]

yeah i guess, i just want a visual style that looks good that also keep the vanilla vibe

i wonder if making a basic roughness map is enough

[final mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-fr-babby-baby-babby-oriental-oriental-shorthair-gif-25742308

[golden patio]

he wants that hardware accelerated fluid simulated water

[fallen birch]

We have that now as well

[misty fractal]

Heightfield water simulation is pretty dope

There's like a 2d fluid sim slapped on as a render target and it almost works the same way

Hold on. It could be possible to do the same here yeah? Not asking if we need to do it, but would it be possible?

[fallen birch]

NVIDIA Flow is fluid simulation which @sonic dagger got into Remix
Though it’s only been tested with smoke and fire effects iirc

[misty fractal]

It needs a lot of tinkering around tbh

[golden patio]

I thought you mean't that as in "we have that in general" and not in remix.

[fallen birch]

No, we have fluid simulation in Remix now
Been awhile since I’ve taken a look at it though
Been busy with a lot of other Remix things

[hard chasm]

prob, but im definitely not doing that for this project

[misty fractal]

Yeah it's okay. It's results would be similar to Fluid flux

Any tonemapper adjustments made yet?

[hard chasm]

no

[misty fractal]

like with the overall betaRT project

Okay

[hard chasm]

uses HLA hable filmic rn

i haven't tried psycho yet, but the current choice already matches the vibe of the original game pretty well imo, but im definitely open to other options

[simple garnet]

@hard chasm I think the water right now is pretty close to your goal of looking like vanilla, I personally wouldn't listen to advice that draws it further away from your goal

[golden patio]

If it at least contains the texture the base game uses then it should be considered vanilla. Bedrock RTX's water doesn't really change that much from the vanilla texture besides a little post processing.

[fallen birch]

Caustics when though

[hard chasm]

nether portal is now transparent

fog looks a little weird through it but can probably be fixed

what it looks like with it off

[final mountain]

Very nice

[torpid crown]

Is this real hardware rt and not the software rt shader packs do?

[fallen birch]

It’s Remix so yes

[torpid crown]

Honestly I'm dumb

I should probably just jump off a cliff after asking that lol

you'd still have to ingest textures through the toolkit to get PBR to work tho, I take it, unless there's screenshots here of them just working

[hard chasm]

my personal interest is not doing any PBR to match the vanilla game, so at least with releases, it wont come with any PBR maps except maybe water just to make it look better.

I am using a custom way to load textures into the wrapper so capturing and making remix mods does not currently work atm. I do plan on fixing it but it's not my priority atm

[torpid crown]

aye, gotcha! Thank you for the response and your hard work

[hard chasm]

atmos sky now has fixed volumetrics (for like the 3rd time)

i prefer the vanilla fog tbh lol

you cant have both on for whatever reason

[final mountain]

Silent Mine

[split zodiac]

Merge them?

[hard chasm]

atmos vs vanilla

[hard chasm]

yeah probably possible

[fallen birch]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-it-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4883506

[hard chasm]

need to start integrating a dev menu like unityrtx so i can start finetuning things

[final mountain]

That would be incredible with a horror mod lol

put a crappy VHS filter over that and you have the most viewed minecraft horror series every made (And probably the one with the most effort put in)

[hard chasm]

love these perfect reflections

need to actually figure out the IOR of water tho

[final mountain]

I have never and will never do that
if it shiny and look good, I keep it

Though I do have the luxury on working on exclusively unrealistic games

[hard chasm]

still looks about the same as vanilla yeah?

[final mountain]

Thats very impressive how close youve kept it to the original

[fallen birch]

"ew, Pathtracing ruined the artistic vision while running at 20fps on my RTX 2060, Pathtracing is horrible!!!"

[hard chasm]

tonemapping definitely needs to change

its too "grim" looking

[final mountain]

need some SSS on the leaves and the sky needs to be more blue

[hard chasm]

might need you to do the SSS for the leaves, i think i can fix the sky

🙂

[fallen birch]

have E-Man do it
ez

[final mountain]

Reminds me I tried to add SSS to some of the foliage in generations and it straight up just didnt work, didnt change the look or anything, still need to figure out why

[hard chasm]

underwater fog and screen tint

volumetrics also work

[fallen birch]

Caustics tho

I wanna see the water light on my forehead

[torpid crown]

are you using a wrapper to get it off opengl or did you do some tech magic?

[fallen birch]

iirc, he decompiled it and integrated Remix API

[torpid crown]

oh shit

thats actually awesome

[final mountain]

I was wondering how well underwater fog would work

[torpid crown]

would it theoretically work with the vulkan update too

theoretically

[final mountain]

I believe so

IIRC its API agnostic so they could work

[torpid crown]

i bet we'd see a bit of a performance bump too, coming off of the 90s renderer lmao

reminds me of how continuum graphics was trying to switch mc over to a vulkan renderer so they could implement new stuff such as their own hardware rt and dlss mod

[fallen birch]

yeah but someone else would have to do it
CR has no interest in modern minecraft

[final mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207

[torpid crown]

fair enough!

[hard chasm]

yes but i assume most of the wrapper would probably need to be rewritten to support any renderer changes. To be clear, this wrapper still hooks on the systems that would usually go to GL, so the GL renderer is still active, just rendered below the vulkan window. Ideally before release i just integrate LWJGL directly into the remix runtime, it would help with performance and make the whole thing more polished

my recommendation for modern MC is just make radiance better or something lol, i think time is better spent there than trying to port this to modern MC

[fallen birch]

I tried looking at Radience code and I do not understand it at all

Fuck Radiance 🥀

[hard chasm]

i feel like when i release this mod the first thing people are gonna do is port it to other versions and that's how it's going to blow up

no love for 1.7.3

[final mountain]

no

[fallen birch]

Doubt
Casuals don’t understand Remix

[final mountain]

Because its not a shader pack I think everyone outside of here will just be confused

On a technical level^

[fallen birch]

It’s not even a mod like Radiance
You basically reversed engineered Minecraft

[hard chasm]

🤤

my entire build style has completely changed just to accommodate this sexyy lighting

really want to add custom remix light blocks into the game

would be sick

[fallen birch]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-kid-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-16045257244806990422

[final mountain]

Patience is a virtue (ULTRAKILL REFFERENCE )

[golden patio]

barely darker

[rare knot]

i wonder if this would work on the normal minecraft launcher

[hard chasm]

maybe, but the way how this wrapper is built and deployed heavily relies on prismlauncher

i really dont want to support that stock CEF garbage launcher but i know better than to gatekeep

[final mountain]

I doubt 99% of people who would use this use the official launcher anyway, its so terrible

[simple garnet]

honestly its not really gatekeeping, its way more work for you to do than it would be for anyone to just move to prism launcher

you can even copy your instances over im pretty sure

[final mountain]

Yeah most modern modpacks you can't use with the official launcher anyway

[fallen birch]

Using the official launcher just crashes my game whenever I try adjusting video settings

[rare knot]

am i crazy for using the official one for like 2 years now

[final mountain]

XBOX MODE will fix this Its the steam killer

[rare knot]

😭

[simple garnet]

not really but like if you want way better instance management and easier moddability it really isnt hard to switch over to prism launcher

[golden patio]

I've used it for the entirety i've had the game

[hard chasm]

ice

[hard chasm]

fixed how triangle culling works on a few blocks, they now match vanilla with it on

[hard chasm]

well im pretty sure i have implemented everything at this point

what to do now lmao

[simple garnet]

Give 🔫

[hard chasm]

i spoke too soon 🥀

also i dont have the block highlight or breaking particles

sometimes i just gotta say dumb stuff to get past a mental block

[golden patio]

You should try to make the slimes look the way they do in BRTX. This was just a thought i had because you were working on translucents.

[sonic dagger]

do slimes work properly?

[hard chasm]

ill find out in a bit

[golden patio]

I can't find any images of this, but in Bedrock RTX the outer part of the slime's model is a translucent material while the inner is a diffuse material.

[hard chasm]

[sonic dagger]

😭 armor stands are so cursed

[hard chasm]

armor stands dont exist here this is a redstone repeater

[sonic dagger]

ohhh

good then. i hate armor stands

[golden patio]

I didn't really see much use for them before trims were added. Even with the trims, i don't really put my armor on them.

[fallen birch]

Put it on Patreon till you hit $10K a month

Just like SUES intended

[golden patio]

I can't think of a cool acronym for the mod like SEUS

[sonic dagger]

MCRTX

[hard chasm]

🥀

do i name it back to that or nah

[sonic dagger]

[sonic dagger]

i think the current name is cool but it's not descriptive enough

[hard chasm]

im open to suggestions if yall got some

[fallen birch]

Golden Age RTX

[sonic dagger]

ShinyMC

[fallen birch]

I think unlike Gmod RTX
This mod will blow up, very much

And then CR will know fame

[simple garnet]

I like this one

[terse depot]

RTX for obsolete game versions.

[grizzled token]

yeah but 1.7.3 has the og portal gun mod so it's all good

Delete META-INF NOW

[hard chasm]

RTX for peak game versions*

fixed it for you

[golden patio]

We started with Portal RTX and now we got Portal RTX in Minecraft

[terse depot]

I kid. I hate modern mc

[golden patio]

They cringed the game up too much around the nether update. The cave and cliffs update was fine. 1.9 ruined the game for alot of players also.

[hard chasm]

finally

repeaters were a pita

🤤

[fallen birch]

Do their emissives work?

[fallen birch]

What’s the bounce count set to? iirc, Minecraft RTX did 8 bounces

[misty fractal]

ClassicRT or something like that

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-classy-michael-scott-jim-gif-11726384

[final mountain]

Its gotta be Minecraft RTX Turbo Edition Deluxe Remake Remix Enhanced Edition featuring Jack Black as Steve

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-steve-minecraft-movie-jack-black-gif-12974288341122943699

[hard chasm]

yes

[split zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/jackblack-steve-minecraft-movie-minecraft-movie-meme-dance-gif-6962913853261327392

[misty fractal]

Moody

[hard chasm]

4, pretty sure remix defaults to this

[final mountain]

Is it possible to replace the player model with an Ultra HD Model of jack blacks arm

You gotta do this if you want this to be popular, everyone loves chack blacks arm

[hard chasm]

brb gonna rub my eyes with bleach

[final mountain]

Typo but im keeping it his name is Chack Black now

[split zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/look-gif-9369503710146703126

[fallen birch]

You can increase to 8 and see how it compares to official MCRTX

[hard chasm]

i could probably do 1 and it would still look better than official mcrtx

[fallen birch]

[final mountain]

Can anyone else almost never tell the difference between 2 and 8 bounces or just me

[hard chasm]

with RR it's definitely hard

[fallen birch]

I remember one trick was to make a room of mirror glass to test the bounce quality

[hard chasm]

1 / 8 bounces

wow 1 / 8 actually looks incredible with caves

that indirect lighting 🤤

[fallen birch]

Probably good for performance too

Going from high to ultra on my GPU is like a 10fps loss

At native resolution

[hard chasm]

welp time to do the more scary change in this project, migrate to lwjgl 3 and then integrate it with remix so i can completely remove any opengl dependencies

this should ideally help performance and give remix a native window with UI

[fallen birch]

How does Remix API work? Is it injecting DX9 then converting to Vulkan or is it straight Vulkan? Because a direct Remix renderer I imagine performs much better

[hard chasm]

its already direct, remix doesnt interact with GL at all other than UI capture, but this project hooks on a lot of render threads that usually go to GL

since rendering is 95% complete, i think its time i just kill off the vanilla renderer

[fallen birch]

I mean like, is it still dxvk or just vk

[hard chasm]

also, no matter what API your game is, remix requires a d3d9 HWND for window creation

but nothing graphical is going through that

so it will always be dxvk no matter what, you're just not converting anything

[split zodiac]

or do you mean change steve to jack black

jk

[final mountain]

J(ack Blac)k

[fallen birch]

Time to ask Valve for source code again

[split zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/sorse-source-3kliksphillip-achieved-with-gif-23602555

[hard chasm]

progress

[pliant owl]

Email notch maybe he can help

[hard chasm]

good idea

[pliant owl]

wtf man

clearly his email is [email protected], get it right

[hard chasm]

ok sent

i eagerly wait his reply

[green nimbus]

lmaooo

[final mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/gol-d-roger-meme-funny-one-piece-writing-gif-5206510315195397953

[hard chasm]

finally, a window

[final mountain]

Looks like I wont be playing THIS mod then!
I HATE Windows 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡

I play all my games on command line

Like a REAL Gamer

[fallen birch]

Better not be Windows 11

[final mountain]

Will this support the new XBOX MODE on Windows 11, the STEAM KILLER??

[fallen birch]

Will this support my Xbox?

[final mountain]

Is this going to release on my PS4?

When will you announce the switch port?

[fallen birch]

If it’s not on Switch, I don’t want it

I want to play on the go

[hard chasm]

(fr tho it would be awesome if i can get this working on linux because i would really like to stop using my windows partition rn)

(lwjgl 3 pls save me)

[fallen birch]

You can leave Windows but the Windows will never leave you

[hard chasm]

it died there but we're getting closer

the compat shim is working

game is lobotomized

[fallen birch]

Shimmy ya

[fallen birch]

“Welcome to UnityRTX”

[hard chasm]

🙂

so nice to see LWJGL 3

[fallen birch]

Also why is it telling you “you have no new mail” since when did we have mail in Minecraft

[hard chasm]

audio is completely broken now but i will cross that bridge when i get there

[hard chasm]

running a local server to make testing easier

commands n stuff

[fallen birch]

Creative user smh

[hard chasm]

what is this creative you speak of

☺️

since the window is finally native, i can record it with obs and msi afterburner now doesnt freak out

look at that frametime counter 🤤

[unique pulsar]

good luck to anyone using a 2060

[hard chasm]

pre-lwjgl 3 this area would be in the 100s

still havent finished the shim so perf will be rough

[hard chasm]

#1493835790801965116 message

[unique pulsar]

yeah, that's still a 5080 though lol

[hard chasm]

i think if a 5080 gets 199fps @ 1080p dlss ultra perf, a 2060 will at least get 30-40 fps

[unique pulsar]

surely

[hard chasm]

nothing is final still, so this can always improve

[unique pulsar]

still impressive this is even possible

[fallen birch]

40fps on my 5060 Ti, lets gooooo

[unique pulsar]

I'll probably get like 80

I'm at 1440p

[vale lantern]

looks fine

[final mountain]

@fallen birch Server when

[fallen birch]

I’m at 1080p native

My GPU is shit

And my CPU

My PC is shit

[fallen birch]

When CR releases the damn thing

https://tenor.com/view/door-gif-17457390403834117909

[final mountain]

Im excited

[unique pulsar]

meanwhile I have a decent gpu and a good cpu

9950x3d and 4070 ti super

[golden patio]

[fallen birch]

Couldn’t be me

[hard chasm]

trying to kill off GL has been hell

[fallen birch]

Why would you ever wanna get rid of one of the best APIs ever made next to Metal

[golden patio]

OpenGL more like CloseGL

[fallen birch]

You mean PeakGL

I bet it can give 1000% better Pathtracing performance

[hard chasm]

pain

part of me thinks i should probably stop pursuing this

UI and audio is completely broken but at least the main visuals and now input work (remember that they all worked perfectly with lwjgl2 and the only issue was the jank window)

😭

[green nimbus]

fyi I'm cool with opening a pr for psychoV tonemapping once you push BetaRT to github if you don't feel like doing it

[hard chasm]

you can if you want, i was going to add it near release. no need to wait for betart to come out, the dxvk-remix repo is already public

https://github.com/sambow23/dxvk-remix-gmod/tree/mc-173

or maybe just PR to sparkle's repo instead since ill be eventually migrating to that anyway

[green nimbus]

Ah okay lol

the tonemapping itself is easy but I found that the brightness slider in remix is rather odd and I still need to figure out what the best option is for that lol

[fallen birch]

Imma pr FSR 3.1

https://tenor.com/view/flipping-off-excel-saga-anime-gif-18645132

[fallen birch]

https://github.com/sambow23/dxvk-remix-gmod/pull/2

@hard chasm this also includes my improved RCAS changes

[hard chasm]

why are these camera changes part of the PR 🥀

also you should PR this to sparkle's repo, not mine

[fallen birch]

Who?

[fallen birch]

Because it was based on a newer version of Remix

I have no idea what commit made those changes as it wasn’t me

[hard chasm]

brotha did you even try compiling the PR you made

[hard chasm]

@sonic dagger

[fallen birch]

I mean, how am I supposed to test it

[sonic dagger]

hi

[hard chasm]

hi

[hard chasm]

i cant tell if its sarcasm, you did compile it?

[fallen birch]

Um
Give me a sec to fix some things

[hard chasm]

UI is finally back, input still buggy

[sonic dagger]

https://github.com/RemixProjGroup/dxvk-remix

master branch is intended target

[fallen birch]

@hard chasm wtf version is your branch on

😭

[fallen birch]

what version is it based on?

[sonic dagger]

much newer than CR's branch

it should be no more than 10 commits out of date

[fallen birch]

I should be able to do a straight pr then

unlike CR's branch

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-anime-girl-annoyed-anime-girl-gif-11942012416213248789

[sonic dagger]

there are specific guidelines to follow for PRing to this fork
https://github.com/RemixProjGroup/dxvk-remix/blob/main/CLAUDE.md#how-contributing-works

i could rework your PR to fit this if you don't want to do it

but it would come much later

the reason for this is to make rebasing easier in the future while keeping all of the additional features

[hard chasm]

like late november lol

gmod rtx has the newer runtime but the mc-173 runtime is based off unityrtx

[fallen birch]

https://tenor.com/view/mane-im-dead-gif-17125533328470459107

[marble current]

dlss ultra performance at 1080p... ? that sure sounds awful

even if that were with dlaa

shit's more demanding than cyberpunk

wait nevermind

do you get 60 with dlaa?

[hard chasm]

project is still in an early state, current performance isnt final.

but to answer your question, 1080p @ DLAA gets 30fps across the board

also keep in mind remix itself is a lot more demanding than cyberpunk

[golden patio]

which card?

[hard chasm]

look at my name

[fallen birch]

What the hell
Thats what I get with DLAA in most Remix games 😭

My GPU is cooked in Minecraft

[hard chasm]

read the first sentence 🙂

[fallen birch]

You want me to read?

[golden patio]

reading is hard

[hard chasm]

most of the perf cost comes around the atmos sky and amount of alpha-rendered objects

I'm also adding frustrum culling with a distance of 200 blocks so its not noticable, should give some free FPS

[fallen birch]

I read that as “atoms” and was wondering what the hell you’re simulating

[hard chasm]

very high tech

[golden patio]

photons are like atoms kinda

[fallen birch]

Introducing: Particle Tracing
Only need a RTX 6090 for $4999

[hard chasm]

frustrum culling working
20 block buffer to exaggerate results

needs to react faster with the camera but looking good so far

i think the next optimization is combing multiple chunks together the further away they are from the player

frustrum culling + no atmos sky so far

atmos sky takes like 30 fps holy shit

[abstract hill]

Guhhh

[hard chasm]

hi

[abstract hill]

Hellos

Looking good looking good

[boreal zenith]

Sky optimization update when

[hard chasm]

when i get to it

holy peak

[terse depot]

From no culling to culling on purpose

How things have chaged

[golden patio]

How will mirror rooms work with this

[fallen birch]

Need this in Portal 2

[hard chasm]

probably fine?

i should try building one lol

[fallen birch]

The ultimate test on how it compares to official MCRTX

[hard chasm]

my windows install is too lobotomized to run the bedrock edition

its still UWP right?

[fallen birch]

No, it switched to GDK

People have been running it on Linux for awhile

Including Minecraft RTX

[hard chasm]

cool

[fallen birch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/s/HgzxALxJRW

[hard chasm]

🥀

my sanity is already dropping

i hate this launcher so much

[fallen birch]

Hopefully keyboard and mouse has been fixed
Last I saw, GDK version needed a controller

[hard chasm]

lmao it crashed

yeah forget testing bedrock

yuck

[unique pulsar]

*bugrock

[final mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/mishel-gif-2456329951169682875

[hard chasm]

its

[unique pulsar]

I tried the rtx demos and they don't even work now, 99% of light sources don't make light lmao

this is just sad

[unique pulsar]

I sure do love working lava

[final mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-minecraft-lava-drink-gif-27514843

[hard chasm]

added support for PBR maps for most textures, time to build that mirror room

this is the asset layout btw, you dont do normal remix replacments

i intend to make a converter for texture packs so you can use those still

[fallen birch]

Mojang’s fault ngl

They did nothing to fix the bugs and quietly discontinued support in favor of Vibrant Visuals in an announcement

[unique pulsar]

exactly

[hard chasm]

didnt do normals because i have no idea how to do those properly for pixel art

about to make it actually mirror like so one sec

[pliant owl]

Finally!

Thank you for taking the picture 🥺

[hard chasm]

🪞 🪩

[final mountain]

Oh thats awesome

[pliant owl]

This is a good comparison video, nothing beats RTX Remix: https://youtu.be/e97xv0BchMA?si=xRwK9v875AxnY-r9&t=21

[terse depot]

Something like this. Little ramps between pixels

This is just one pixel but you get the idea

[hard chasm]

yea but making that manually is something im probably not up for

i can send an archive of the stock assets if someone wants to make some PBR maps

[final mountain]

[hard chasm]

ok one sec

i have some unfinished maps in there so just delete whatever. needs to match the naming scheme tho because its hardcoded

[final mountain]

This is what weekends are made for

[fallen birch]

What I miss

[hard chasm]

mirror room

[final mountain]

You missed peak bro

[rare knot]

i dont see any maps in here?

unless your talking about somethin else

[final mountain]

theres roughness and metal maps in here what you talkin about

[rare knot]

i thought he meant minecraft maps 😭

[hard chasm]

wow i completely forgot about held items in 3rd person, ty reflections

[sonic dagger]

ur obviously just not holding anything

[hard chasm]

so the pickaxe is just an illusion?

[sonic dagger]

it is

[hard chasm]

🥹

ngl i have no idea what iron is supposed to look like with PBR but i definitely dig the rough metalltic look

@final mountain will definitely cook here

[final mountain]

[hard chasm]

👻

[fallen birch]

Well that’s a problem, lol

[hard chasm]

the frustrum culling?

its customizable, current default is 40 blocks away

🙀

mp with a non BetaRT client works fine

lol holding a steve

[golden patio]

Should of used the herobrine skin for that

[hard chasm]

lol yea i was thinking about that

skins dont work atm tho

really want to get held torches working for other players

would look sick in motion

[fallen birch]

The denoiser is struggling, lol

[fallen birch]

I’m definitely importing my skin

[final mountain]

@hard chasm Should diamond blocks be metallic or just really shiny?

figured it out, diamond block looked weird fully metallic, made the borders slightly less metallic and it looks much better

[rare knot]

why did i think that was herobrine

hes even in a different pose i think

[hard chasm]

[golden patio]

make diamond actually diamond and not metal or plastic

add caustics too

[hard chasm]

🔦

[final mountain]

Yeah let me add caustics real quick one sec

[hard chasm]

ok its been a sec are u done

[final mountain]

[hard chasm]

other held items

[final mountain]

Gonna make that pick so shiny you wont even believe it can get that shiny

But now im working on the mushroom textures

[fallen birch]

AMD users seeing a blurry mess:

[final mountain]

[fallen birch]

@hard chasm I’m expecting this to run at 100fps on my Steam Deck, Native 800p with 32 chunks

[final mountain]

AMD
Yeah AM Deez reflection all over your screen

https://tenor.com/view/gol-d-roger-meme-funny-one-piece-writing-gif-5206510315195397953

[hard chasm]

😨

what are they doing

[pliant owl]

https://klipy.com/gifs/rolando-inocencio-rolly-5--k01KQQQJ1M2VX8ZDMNGZ48JG4G0

[final mountain]

4 Redstone torches are used the build the herobrine summoning shrine

https://tenor.com/view/medardra-stantwt-stantwt-cat-big-eyes-cat-cat-big-eyes-gif-11405274144465883959

[hard chasm]

my mac sweating

[fallen birch]

Banger thumbnail btw

[fallen birch]

Should have ran 4 RTX clients on your main
Put that RTX 5080 to work

[hard chasm]

honestly not a bad idea

im pretty sure iron isnt supposed to make this sound?

[sonic dagger]

if you consider that iron is just shiny dirt, you're fine

[terse depot]

Pretty sure it isn't

[golden patio]

everything is dirt if you imagine

[rare knot]

AAAHH IT IS HEROBRINE

HIS REFLECTIONS STILL THERE

[final mountain]

@hard chasm Do you have normals for water yet?

[hard chasm]

nop

[final mountain]

Almost done all the blocks Ill probably do the armor after that

[fallen birch]

me waiting to make a video on it

[final mountain]

Combining into the terrain.png now

[fallen birch]

I need the mod so bad

[final mountain]

Gonna look so peak

[terse depot]

Cr be gatekeeping so hard these days

[final mountain]

[hard chasm]

what am i gatekeeping

this is good ragebait btw

[fallen birch]

Shiii, let me cancel my FSR 3.1 PR
And do the same

[terse depot]

[hard chasm]

PBR from @final mountain
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447800299996840048/1500659928975671327/2026-05-03_19-45-54.mp4?ex=69f93df7&is=69f7ec77&hm=1bc0ae514205e4a1b73c10073d7ae9eb25b79a566f6d0a9f92d7f2fa4890ecc4&

[final mountain]

[hard chasm]

i might need to reingest them because they have the same darkness falloff as mine and i had to up the gamma to counteract that

i blame paint.net so my skill issue

[hard chasm]

MUCH better

netherrack reflections 🤤

[terse depot]

Actually cooked

[fallen birch]

All that gatekeeping, smh

[terse depot]

smh indeed

drop the build

[fallen birch]

That’s a pic, not a build

[terse depot]

I think real minecraft varies the texture mapping 90 degrees randomly per block

[final mountain]

Get good

[terse depot]

To break up tiling

[hard chasm]

old MC definitely does not do that

[terse depot]

Hmm. Idk when they added it

[final mountain]

yeah I think they started doing that after they revamped the textures

[terse depot]

The textures are kinda repetitive

[hard chasm]

fine to me, it matches the vanilla vibe

[final mountain]

I liked the original more

[hard chasm]

here u go

[fallen birch]

Something about the PBR makes me feel wrong but I don’t know what

[hard chasm]

it looks good to me, the only nitpick i have is that the normals may be too strong for some blocks?

[final mountain]

Yep im going to double the res of the normals so perceived strength is less and it should look cleaner overall

[unique yacht]

It feels strange, as if there were holes, and at the same time there is a shadow on the edges, as if something were sticking out.

[hard chasm]

your pfp keeps confusing me, is that homelander's body with the Deep's head lmao?

[unique yacht]

With the peak of human evolution*, And yes.

[pliant owl]

fishlander

[fallen birch]

He has an octopus son named Ryan

[green nimbus]

this will be minecraft in 2013

[meager laurel]

If you are remixing the minecraft game. why not try to upscale and remix the 3d models. I think lava would look great.

[final mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-jesse-walter-white-gif-25245234

[silver holly]

It looks like pre 1.16 "pbr" bedrock texture packs

[rare knot]

someone recreate the minecraft movie with these screenshots

[rare knot]

made a better one

[golden patio]

The minecraft movie but with real assets

😂

[rare knot]

A Minecraft Movie: RTX Remixed

[hard chasm]

I will not be doing that, the mod will releasing with no PBR materials by default, as the goal is to match the vanilla game's visuals as much as possible. I will be including Jacob's excellent PBR maps as an optional add-on but nothing else.

Also, it's not possible to do individual mesh replacements as all blocks are combined into their respective chunk region for performance

[golden patio]

No remix mod that turns every block into a sphere?

[misty fractal]

What?! Why

[golden patio]

brainrot minecraft resource packs

[split zodiac]

What happens if you use a heavy shader pack with this

[hard chasm]

shader packs don't exist for 1.7.3

[split zodiac]

Oh

[golden patio]

Things would probably break

[split zodiac]

True

Or fry gpu

[fallen birch]

More the reason this is gonna blow up

[split zodiac]

Remix is shaders right

[golden patio]

yes

[split zodiac]

I wonder if the first release of mc will work

Beta

Adds non voxel model to mc via remix

What is the limitations of Java in this

[hard chasm]

wat

[split zodiac]

The mc engine

Ram etc

[misty fractal]

non voxel model?

[split zodiac]

Toolkit

Replacing assets

[golden patio]

You won't be able to do per block replacements but player model replacements should work i think

[misty fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-you-doing-not-gif-14585998

[misty fractal]

There is only one texture since it's all merged together so no point in trying to mess with them

[split zodiac]

Just uvs

[misty fractal]

Shouldn't there be a way to decouple these textures and make them work separately via a different mod?

[split zodiac]

Probably

[golden patio]

Just remove all the optimizations

[split zodiac]

Before someone ports jack Black to mc assets

[hard chasm]

most already are

so remix could play nice

[rare knot]

i mean

it kinda does

Macula supports it

[fallen birch]

This is better than Remix
102%
Even runs on AMD native resolution

[final mountain]

[rare knot]

i tryed to install this and

[hard chasm]

lmao

[toxic plover]

whats the artistic vision of this mod

to be as close to vanilla as possible

[hard chasm]

yes, the pbr stuff is an optional feature

[toxic plover]

and how good is the performance

[hard chasm]

decent, I've sent a few screenshots recently, nothing is final though

[fallen birch]

20fps on my RTX 5060 Ti

[hard chasm]

lies

[final mountain]

Impossible
You can trust everything you see on the internet

https://tenor.com/view/wiki-wikipedia-gif-9356537682765330282

[fallen birch]

Wdym, surly my RTX 5060 Ti gets the same performance as a RX 9060 XT
The internet would never lie to me

[toxic plover]

Just cause like, I don’t really see the fps cost being worth it if the visuals are still pretty underwhelming

[hard chasm]

Just curious, what do you think looks underwhelming?

[toxic plover]

Maybe I should've worded it as "only slightly different than vanilla"

maybe it does look different idk i've only seen a few screenshots of this

[golden patio]

You should have the ability to edit textures and stuff in the runtime/toolkit to make it look the way you want it to. Stuff like custom shader based water shaders and clouds could be added via a fork. Vanilla fog is togglable also afaik, so there's more customization.

[simple garnet]

I feel like you may be kinda missing the point of ray tracing? Like the lighting is many magnitudes more realistic, it's able to react in a very accurate way to lighting situations that would just be impossible without it. It's not supposed to look incredibly different necessarily, it's supposed to look like what if the blocky Minecraft world was real

[hard chasm]

i wouldn't say I'm going for realism, i just like the beta atmosphere plus path tracing because it looks visually pleasing.

something about it, to me at least, looks right

[worldly sedge]

as someone who started playing minecraft during beta 1.6.6, seeing path tracing being implemented adds to the nostalgia/feel of beta minecraft

[grizzled token]

Alpha 1.0.16 player here, I agree

[hard chasm]

finally got this working on linux, had to use prismlauncher under wine

runs as fast as it does on windows

[fallen birch]

Whatever you did with the grass is driving me insane

[hard chasm]

early iteration of jacob's pbr pack

i had my instanced zipped up so that's what was there

[toxic plover]

is that fog or something

[hard chasm]

remix volumetrics, seperate from the game fog

[toxic plover]

It's Alot

[fallen birch]

Separate from game fog? ITS MOT VANILLA???

-5/10

[hard chasm]

guh

[fallen birch]

Ruined the experience

[hard chasm]

i mean i dont think volumetrics really fit

the classic beta fog is

[hard chasm]

fuckin FINALLY the menu works on launch

i had to previously autojoin a server just to make the UI render

[golden patio]

remix menu or the main menu?

[hard chasm]

main menu

[hard chasm]

this may look like nothing, but man did it take a lot of work to get windowing and the menu to work correctly

🥹

time to update the remix runtime

im sure nothing will break /s

[sonic dagger]

u can wait until tonight. i'm adding weather presets, then i';m going to publish a new build

it'll have a lot of docs too

[hard chasm]

i dont mind updating now, all of the BetaRT changes probably wont conflict with future commits

[sonic dagger]

oki

🙏

[fallen birch]

It’s server time boys

I got my debit card preloaded

[split zodiac]

Damn. Are you sure you don't want to polish it

[hard chasm]

?

[split zodiac]

I mean work on it more

[hard chasm]

work on what? the runtime upgrade was going to happen eventually for this project

[split zodiac]

Oh

I just thought you might've missed something is all

[hard chasm]

missing what?

[split zodiac]

Ideas

[hard chasm]

such as

[fallen birch]

Add Herobrine to the game

[split zodiac]

Well since remix plus is getting weather. Why not add tree effects with wind

[final mountain]

Im gonna add jack black

[split zodiac]

Plus I was swapping between plus and mc project fast. So I got confused

[hard chasm]

this project is focusing on the vanilla game's visuals, nothing like that will be added

[fallen birch]

And hookers?

[hard chasm]

well uhh

the new runtime, runs