Vibe Reverse Engineering Toolset

[vagrant kernel]

Like a rando corner of the GTA 1 actually has a certain mood now

[rose oasis]

i'm spending the last of my credits for the week finishing the renderdoc implementation though 😖

[vagrant kernel]

Thanks to CR's sky too btw

[muted sun]

fallout tactics rtx remix when?

[quaint kelp]

hell yea

[rose oasis]

fallout 76 when 😭

[fallow helm]

Your sacrifice is appreciated. It will be a great help for sure.

[quaint kelp]

has anti cheat i think

[rose oasis]

shitty anti cheat

(i'm gonna make a DLSS mod for it)

[quaint kelp]

dunno lets try it

hmmm

lol

not my end

but you can try

[rose oasis]

😆

[quaint kelp]

so it does work kim but i hit a snag with my build

[rose oasis]

no i prob won't bother. this one will 100% get me a ban

but DLSS is acceptable

[quaint kelp]

note thats the microsoft store version

[cold river]

I haven’t kept up with the vibe coding stuff. What have I missed? What’s actually being done with this?

[muted sun]

yes

[rose oasis]

well, a list of my projects:

• FNV
• FO4
• Skyrim AE
• Outrun 2006
• Metal Gear Rising Revengeance
• Star Wars Empire at War
• LOTR Conquest
• GTA 3

(though the FO4 and Skyrim projects barely use this toolkit)

as well as a lot of other smaller projects

[quaint kelp]

lego skywalker saga when

[rose oasis]

then other people's:

• GTA 1
• Dragon Age Origins
• Dark Souls 1
  and a lot more tbh

i'm not sure if @quaint kelp's experimental DX11 remix uses this

[vagrant kernel]

I also did Carmageddon 1 (through OpenC1)

[quaint kelp]

havent tried those games besides skyrim

[rose oasis]

i mean if you're using the vibe tools for your DX11 project

[quaint kelp]

i used renderdoc thats about it

no retools nothin

[rose oasis]

@muted sun implemented DLAA into Dying Light with it

[muted sun]

yep

[quaint kelp]

my build was about making a non vibe tools version

[rose oasis]

oh yeah

i added DX9 support to renderdoc too

though again not using vibe tools directly (rather updating it)

.

😔

i'm gonna take a break soon

[misty meadow]

I just downloaded renderdoc, never heard of it really, but I'm curious how much more it'll help with games I'm trying to work on

[rose oasis]

ah you don't need to download it separately

if you use this fork of vibe tools, it includes renderdoc with partial DX9 support: https://github.com/baldurk/renderdoc

[misty meadow]

Thank you!

[rose oasis]

oops wrongh link lol

https://github.com/Kim2091/Vibe-Reverse-Engineering/tree/renderdoc

@misty meadow

[misty meadow]

I appreciate it!

[rose oasis]

the CLI tools that claude will use are 100% functional atp. the GUI doesn't have DX9 integrated yet though. that's what i'm working on rn

when it's all complete i'm gonna get it into the main version of vibe tools

[sharp seal]

Still won't let you finish the parking tutorial

[fallow helm]

Not to mention the possibility of actual path traced 3DS emulation. Really hope it pans out.

[rose oasis]

😖

i justcouldn't remember more projects 😆

i'm missing some of my own too

[fallow helm]

Although you really did break new ground with Fallout 4 and Skyrim. Definitely among the most impressive for sure.

I was genuinely impressed enough with MGR:R, but then you went and topped that!

[fallow helm]

To be fair, there is a lot to keep track of. We've had a tremendous boom of projects here since this channel was founded.

[dull swallow]

good morning everynyan!

[alpine dove]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-too-fire-fire-writing-writing-fire-friendcord-gif-7801118907023267493

[rose oasis]

✨ pipeline viewer works for DX9 now

working on texture and mesh

[cold river]

The part I’m confused about is what’s actually happening. I see games that aren’t nicely compatible with Remix starting to show results but what is the AI actually doing/what kinds of requests are y’all making of it

[rose oasis]

a lot of the games use my FFP proxy template. so the AI will reverse engineer parts of the game exe or while it's running to find camera matrices, which then get added to the proxy code. the proxy then handles shader -> FFP conversion in a similar way to what xoxor did for the COD games

other games simply require ASI patches for culling and stuff, which also require reverse engineering of the exe to find the necessary addressees

for FO4 and Skyrim, i'm actually using the Remix API instead and SKSE/F4SE + some reverse engineering

basically the AI pokes around in the game to find what's required to make it compatible with Remix. it needs a lot of handholding and direction but it works

[quaint kelp]

before you know it you re a dx12 game that looks kinda poo

like ports of og resident evil

hey kim is is plausible to make a dx11 to qt wrapper ?

[rose oasis]

🤔

qt is a GUI though?

[quaint kelp]

qt is used by no plugin emulation

later pcsx2 builds use it

[rose oasis]

qt is just the gui framework for it

[quaint kelp]

wheres the render then hmmm

i wonder if i can make a opengl wrapper now cause of dx11

[vagrant kernel]

Man GPT-5.4 is just tearing through GTA 1. Could've been so much further along if I hadn't wasted time with dumb ah Claude

[quaint kelp]

heh

claude is like let me find 32 bit architecture when the project was 64bit to begine with

let me find the .trex folder

meh

[vagrant kernel]

I can only imagine how much earlier I could've gone to bed yesterday (or today) if I tried to port via GPT instead of Claude

[golden raven]

Opus is really shit these days

Wanted a simple ass python app

Spent an hour debugging

[rose oasis]

IDK what anthropic has been doing but they really fucked up

[vagrant kernel]

They are in the process of enshittifying

[golden raven]

That said if you pay the API, you'll have the model run normally. Without messing up

[quaint kelp]

it messes up being in the same chat session but when you open a new one it forgets

[rose oasis]

instead of _200 on Claude Max I'm gonna switch to $100, then the $40 copilot

[golden raven]

I don't think I run out that often on 100

[rose oasis]

I max out my weekly amount regularly

[golden raven]

Yeesh

I've yet to max out weekly

[rose oasis]

I do a lot of projects

[vagrant kernel]

Can you get unlimited GPT-5.4 somewhere

[rose oasis]

openai's own service really sucks

just stick with copilot imo

[rose oasis]

that forced government compliance fucked it all up

[vagrant kernel]

Give us access to Claude for Government

Our work is on a similar level of importance

[rose oasis]

[sharp seal]

The government is trying to get RDR2 to work with remix

They need all the resources

[bright ermine]

unityrtx 🥹

[rose oasis]

I didn't list it because you didn't use vibe tools for it afaik

[atomic steppe]

~~claude code ~~ claude just went down again lol

[bright ermine]

ohh mb

[rose oasis]

amazing work though

[cold river]

Can’t speak for Opus but I had no trouble with this with Sonnet 4.6. Made a batch image downscaler + format conversion + alpha channel removing packaged python application that works without a hitch. I think I iterated it just one time bc the visual of the app was bothering me how you needed to use scrolling to see the whole interface originally

[rose oasis]

in the last week they really fucked it all up

I will say none of my issues were that bad though

it's just more stupid than it was

[cold river]

This was a few weeks back so I guess I missed it

[bright ermine]

[solemn epoch]

And then these are basic tasks compared to what has been achieved in this thread

[vagrant kernel]

Kinda sick how a simple "sprite lift" I implemented already makes this look pretty good

We got GTA 1 RTX before GTA 6

[quaint kelp]

rasterized. cant click nothing in my ui. but got it to hook. game input is obstructed

will be back to it later. i need to relax a bit. took a day out of therapy sessions today cause im ill

but. this is with my inel card. i have no nvidia card to test it with so ill push a build later for people to test

.... i have thought about making a intel/amd version of remix as well

[rose oasis]

🫂

[vagrant kernel]

Disabled frustum culling in GTA 1. 0 performance loss which is nice

Crazy how GTA went from this to a billion dollar franchise

This is the Miami map too, so only fitting with GTA 6 coming out this year

[quaint kelp]

https://github.com/Murray2k6/dxvk-remix-DX11 made another build including renderdoc to my build

expect bugs

[quaint kelp]

is this that unity 3D port?

[vagrant kernel]

https://github.com/codenamecpp/carnage3d It's this

Pretty barebones and not the full GTA experience but it gets the path tracing done for now

[quaint kelp]

ah

[vagrant kernel]

Implemented double sided world textures, so certain elements make look proper in actual 3D perspective

[rose oasis]

removed backface culling?

[vagrant kernel]

It doesn't have backface culling, just some geo is only one-sided

[rose oasis]

🤔

[vagrant kernel]

Backface culling doesn't make a lot of sense in a game that is pretty much 99% just camera facing geometry

[vagrant kernel]

GTA 6 leaked gameplay (sorry for breaking the rules against leaks)

[candid mirage]

https://klipy.com/gifs/flat-woman-flattened

Yo the running over of 2d characters xD

[quaint kelp]

so dope

[candid mirage]

That game consists of buildings, roads, flat stanleys, literally it

[vagrant kernel]

Scared me to be honest, didn't notice them

[quaint kelp]

make 2d models into voxels like some games have

[vagrant kernel]

I'll just post my build on here later, further work doesn't make a lot of sense considering it's just a barebones open source source port

[quaint kelp]

true

[vagrant kernel]

Should've checked how far along it was before I started RTXing

[muted sun]

wide putin

[quaint kelp]

you could probably port the ps1 version

[vagrant kernel]

Is Github down

Works again

[candid mirage]

Damn I figured it was down/having issues, it said my CoPilot Pro was at 0% usage, had me both confused and happy

[sharp seal]

All it's missing is wet roads and puddles

[golden raven]

Yes. And the other side gets culled. So that it isn't rendered twice. Aka. blackface culling. Which makes perfect sense for a fixed perspective game

Wtfff

Claude is severely regarded rn

[vagrant kernel]

Actually all geo is one sided

It doesn't have any back faces to cull

[golden raven]

Bake face culling literally means not rendering one side of a triangle.

There's no such thing as a two sided triangle

[cold river]

Truth nuke

[vagrant kernel]

@crimson yacht When you implemented DoF, did you just tell the AI to do it or did you point it at something?

[crimson yacht]

I just said "go look at post FX and make me DOF or ill delete you forever" and that seemed to work pretty well

[vagrant kernel]

Nice, I'll try that

[vagrant kernel]

I'm getting the VS Code freezing now too

Hella

[vital dew]

Yeah I tried to fix my freezes and couldn't get it to work unless I closed the app all together. Stopping it didnt work and couldn't figure out how to fork the chat

[rose oasis]

ha

hahahahaaaa

i got locked out for an hour

(of my apartment, in the sun)

[quaint kelp]

oh

damn

through the window it is then

[rose oasis]

i had to cut the screening on the back porch

[quaint kelp]

oof

then a passerby "what are you doin"

[rose oasis]

claude wasn't even respoinding to commit status questions properly

they fucked it up so bad

[quaint kelp]

yea... i was like wtf claude

it like forgot everything

lol

[vagrant kernel]

@crimson yacht You got any screenshots of your DoF implementation? I keep getting weird results with the blur always enclosed inside the silhouettes like this.

[vagrant kernel]

Finally

First implementation 👎

Now to figure out why the floor is randomly wet now

(Nothing to do with DoF)

[rose oasis]

likely some textures either don't have roughness maps and it falls back to remix's default, or the original ones are just terrible

for FO4 it's a mix of these and it's so annoying

[vagrant kernel]

The roughness map here is completely wrong (in the main game) but I don't think it was wet looking before

Anyways it's just stone tiles so I removed the specular map and made it fully rough

[alpine dove]

Whats your current plans for this?

[crimson yacht]

Sorry I was busy Looks like you ended up with a better implementation than mine

[golden raven]

Ran outta Claude in the middle of work

Guh

Who giving me money?

[rose oasis]

even i'm switching to copilot atp

fuckin hell anthropic

[dull swallow]

Make me a furry model ty and ill give you,,,,, 3 dollar

[golden raven]

Kiddo it

Keep it

I love swipe typing

[dull swallow]

Lmao

You should try to make a furry model tho sometime

Cuz i Wana actually see you do one but you have no reference

[golden raven]

For furry, yeah

Never made pawbs

[muted sun]

perfect application for nvidia's ray traced hair :p

[golden raven]

Nah

[muted sun]

😭

[dull swallow]

You gotta

Do i can commission you

!!!!+

[quaint kelp]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/technologies/hairworks/

[vital dew]

This whole time I've been using Copilot CLI, am I stupid or is that not that bad?

[golden raven]

"Your subscription payment is past due. Please pay your overdue invoice to restore access."

Wow they're really trying hard now

[vital dew]

Holy shit Local runs so fast compared to CLI, I feel like I wasted a month of my life using shitty CLI

[vital dew]

Is ChatGPT 5.4 down for anyone else in VSCode? Either that or saying "fix the LOD system, President Trump stated "If LOD in TH2003 isn't fixed within 48 hours I will nuke the planet"" got me soft-banned from the model lol

Yeah no models are working for me right now, well easy come easy go

[vagrant kernel]

Claude seems so over, couldn't even just parse some data from map files without shitting its pants

[fathom oyster]

I found a kind of secret weapon that produces clean and stable images, even when rendering two cameras at the same time. The function is already built into Remix. So any remixable game can run in VR as long as Remix hooks correctly. Still need to fine‑tune the camera offset. I might also try adding area ReSTIR or other NVIDIA paper's path tracing approaches to get an even cleaner and more stable image

[sharp seal]

Try Half Life 2 RTX demo

I think there's a HL2 VR mod, would look great with remix

[alpine dove]

YORO is off the table?

[fallow helm]

Being able to render two (or more) cameras at the same time could be very helpful for split screen multiplayer as well.

[fathom oyster]

Hmm, maybe I can implement both methods, the Remix ‘internal’ VR approach and YORO. But I think YORO’s VR quality probably won’t match the internal Remix VR quality.

[fathom oyster]

That has some similarity, but I think it still needs per game setup. If Remix can’t get the second camera properly, it just can’t render it. If there are any split screen games that already work with Remix, I can test those later.

[fallow helm]

I don't know of any native PC split screen games that work with Remix (though there may be some out there).

I know that a scant few emulated N64 games like Mario Party 1 and 2 work via an old plugin for Project64, but in those cases when there are supposed to be a camera for each player, Remix just takes all cameras and amalgamates them into one.

[alpine dove]

in image quality or depth/“immersion”

[vagrant kernel]

GPT randomly got a spring in his step

[fathom oyster]

In theory you can’t get a correct "side" view from a single view. I haven’t read the paper yet, but I assume it uses some tricks to fake the depth, so the result won’t be fully accurate.

[alpine dove]

in the project site you sent they showcased how YORO works under very close up objects

u watched that yet?

[vagrant kernel]

Is it based on portals?

[alpine dove]

also in the case of area restir its seemingly mainly for improving natural anti aliasing and depth of field, so idk how much it improves the rest of the image compared to smth like restir PT/PG

[fathom oyster]

Not sure if it’s a video artifact or something else.

[alpine dove]

wdym video artifact?

[fathom oyster]

Ghosting in very close distance.

[alpine dove]

they have uncompressed versions of the videos i think wait lemme find em

wait hemry do u have an android?

you can run the demo app

[fathom oyster]

I have an old Android phone and it’s charging right now, so I can test it later. If it’s much easier than the portal approach, I might implement YORO first. The AI keeps rethinking the portal method for hours and still can’t make it work. My previous two camera approach worked, but the image was extremely noisy with heavy ghosting, seems like some parts of the render pipeline are screen‑space, which causes the ghosting. Especially when I reuse history data for both eyes. Without history + ray reconstruction, both eyes just render completely dark.

[alpine dove]

Ai didn’t get the smoking gun?

[fathom oyster]

Maybe GLM 5.1 just isn’t good enough for this. It keeps overthinking the problem again and again. When I tell it to use the portal approach, it insists there’s an easier way and basically rejects my idea, then keeps following its own logic even though it clearly doesn’t work well.

[alpine dove]

what a dickhead lmao

[sharp seal]

[rose oasis]

✨

it's my birthday

[sharp seal]

Happy birthday Kim 🥳

Mine is in 5 days

[fathom oyster]

Happy Birthday Kim🎂

[rose oasis]

happy early birthday

[fallow helm]

Happy Birthday, Kim

[vagrant kernel]

Happy birthday

[rose oasis]

closer to 30 by the second lol

hopefully today will be a good day though

[fallow helm]

Ah, I wouldn't worry about it. 30 isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be.

[rose oasis]

😰 I bought some alcohol yesterday and didn't get carded for the first time

[rose oasis]

ya I'm not really worried

[dull swallow]

eeeee happy birthday !!!!!

[vital dew]

Happy birthday Kim!!!

[quaint kelp]

Vr remix with flickering had to be a trip though

@rose oasis happy birthday

[queen spear]

Happy birthday, May everything be good in your life, and may you continue to delight us with your cool projects. 🎂🤍

[brisk trench]

That is a lie 😭

[crystal kiln]

Yoooo happy birthday Kim!

[quaint kelp]

I feel old. I'm 39

[rose oasis]

thank you all 💖

[rose oasis]

lots longer to go still ✨

[golden raven]

Happy birthday Kimi k 2.5

[rose oasis]

🤔

[rose oasis]

😔

might change my name

[quaint kelp]

Aw why

[golden raven]

Something that sounds old and mature..like. Kimberly

[rose oasis]

nah

i don't like this name

[quaint kelp]

What do you want then

[rose oasis]

there are lots

problem is all of my work online has this name in it so i can't just change it lol

[quaint kelp]

Oh

Change discord channel name only

?

[rose oasis]

maybe

[quaint kelp]

How about Sarah it means princess

Or Luna as in 🌙

[rose oasis]

i have some picked out already. it's just whether or not it's worth the potential confusion from it

[quaint kelp]

Ah ok

I have a new build on my project but I didn't have time to test. Had to leave home

[rose oasis]

if you get a refund from anthropic one time guys... you're never eligible again

so i can't get a refund

opus is SO bad now on the Max plan (the $200 one!!) that it's not even formatting responses properly anymore

[candid mirage]

If not Opus then what the heck can ya use?

[rose oasis]

looks like gpt 5.4 now. which is gross and i hate that it's better atp

i don't want to support openai at all

but all of my projects are stuck now because opus is this bad

[sharp seal]

it comes included in with copilot pro?

[sharp seal]

Yeah it's severely nerfed

[rose oasis]

which pays openai for using it

[sharp seal]

Maybe anthropic is testing some new model. I mean they know the 4.6 opus model is in a worse condition

That or there is just so much demand for it

[rose oasis]

they did this with 4.5 and 4 also. just nerfed the shit out of the current model to make the new one look even better

• demand for sure

they clearly have to nerf the public subscriptions to keep the government one working okay too

[sharp seal]

WHAT?!

what the hell

can we do something about the bad service as customers?

[rose oasis]

no

us government pretty much forced them into providing service to them. threatened to blacklist them if they didn't (first time an american company would be blacklisted like this btw) which would guarantee they shut down

so we get fucked over instead

[sharp seal]

Damn that's so sad

[rose oasis]

i'm so tired...

it can't even build renderdoc properly now btw

✨ i'm gonna have to spend my birthday filing my taxes too. hoorayyy

[rose oasis]

yes gpt is figuring out the compiling issues immediately

took claude twice as long

[quaint kelp]

Ikr

Openai though

Ew

[rose oasis]

yeah

i hate openai

[quaint kelp]

Wonder about deepseek

[rose oasis]

ick ick ick

deepseek is ick too

[quaint kelp]

Ah

[rose oasis]

GLM 5.1 is solid though

[quaint kelp]

What's glm

Is it in vscode

[rose oasis]

it's an open source LLM that somehow competes with sonnet and is solid overall

https://huggingface.co/zai-org/GLM-5.1

unsure what providers have it though

i don't see it in copilot

[quaint kelp]

We need to add this

Unless there's a agent software

There's hawk but

[rose oasis]

this isn't something i can add. it'd be up to microsoft/github

[quaint kelp]

Maybe I can say download agent to it

Get the agent downloaded

Or make a vscode plugin

[rose oasis]

@fathom oyster what provider do you use for glm

[alpine dove]

how much ram does it require?

[quaint kelp]

How much is the sub

[rose oasis]

~500 GB. you don't want to try to self host it

[brisk trench]

You know what, I'm gonna go to Australia, round up a million budgies and plug them into a matrix and use them as AI

[alpine dove]

oh lord 💔

[brisk trench]

instead of tokens it will be seeds

[rose oasis]

$18 a month. but i think hemry uses Kiro
https://kiro.dev/

[quaint kelp]

I can put it on a server PC that I have sitting doing nothing

[rose oasis]

which has glm it looks like

[quaint kelp]

Have you messed with vibe in it

[rose oasis]

i haven't used it because none of my subscriptions give access to it

[quaint kelp]

I wish someone had GitHub pull in the dev department

[brisk trench]

If I didn't break my old workstation/server and could fix it again 😭

[quaint kelp]

What broke

[brisk trench]

The bios chip

[quaint kelp]

Ew

[brisk trench]

I fixed it then fucked with it and broke it again 😂

[quaint kelp]

Lol

[brisk trench]

ADHD got to me

[quaint kelp]

Get a old xeon

[brisk trench]

it was

two cpu's

[quaint kelp]

Oh

Ebay

[brisk trench]

It's an old Dell T7500 with the riser

[rose oasis]

aliexpress is easily the best place to get parts like this

[brisk trench]

Ye I could just get another motherboard, the bios chips are fucked on all of them though

[quaint kelp]

The PC temu

Or just get a raspberry pi

[brisk trench]

My one had a custom chip that I put on and it was completely fine, but I wanted to take it off and mess with it for some reason can't even remember why

9TB of storage too

[rose oasis]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256811635717155.html

$93 for 28c/48t with mobo + 32 GB ram

[quaint kelp]

Need to allow links in here

[dull swallow]

Smoking gun

[quaint kelp]

Can't see

[rose oasis]

i intentionally prevented embedding because it's useless for this site

[quaint kelp]

Oh

Well reason I say is cause if someone clicks wrong thing

Like discord scammers

Or fake steam urls

[bright ermine]

i assume not very fast cores

oh yea its x99 lol

[quaint kelp]

Servers aren't for gaming though

[bright ermine]

wait x99 isn't dual socket, what cursed chinesium shit is this

[brisk trench]

Much better than the X5687 my server has

Question is how much ram can it hold

[bright ermine]

probably 128?

[brisk trench]

Must be more surely

[rose oasis]

not amazing

but better than nothin lol

[brisk trench]

Up to 192GB on my old one

[bright ermine]

ok with those xeons, 256

[quaint kelp]

I have some of the Intel ram that's actually storage

Not using it

[brisk trench]

Old server ram is so cheap

[quaint kelp]

Was a misbuy

Sdimm I think

https://ebay.us/m/QOg9Up xeon cpu

[fathom oyster]

Ollama

[brisk trench]

That thing eats power like nothing

[candid mirage]

Talk about last minute! Use FreeTaxUSA if your income is simple

[quaint kelp]

We turned vibe channel to off topic lol

[gloomy ginkgo]

saw this on twitter, not sure if it works as I dont have access to Opus myself to test

[quaint kelp]

If true then instructions need updated

[brisk trench]

I managed to force HQ sky with LQ terrain (Terrain only renders in LQ) Just need to make it update with weather ⛈️

[golden raven]

What the fuck

Ooh wait

Ollama does support cloud models

For a second I thought you were running it locally. I was concerned

[rose oasis]

😮‍💨 taxes done

[candid mirage]

Raytrace dem dolla bills

[rose oasis]

self employment tax is ridiculous

like yeah, i can't get hired anywhere so i scrape by with what i can get freelancing. but i have to pay twice as much because of it

[rose oasis]

🙏

https://github.com/Kim2091/Vibe-Reverse-Engineering/tree/renderdoc

can i please have testers for renderdoc DX9 integration? it should be supported on cursor, copilot, claude, and kiro now

[fathom oyster]

I was using Amazon Q Pro with Kiro before, it worked like a full coding plan with all the Claude models, so I could run Opus 4.6, OpenClaw, and coding nonstop. But Amazon shut down my access without explanation, so now I’m using Copilot Pro+, Ollama, OpenCode Zen, Opencode Go and web model instead.

[rose oasis]

i'm gonna take a look at ollama soon

would you recommend it?

[candid mirage]

Is there a new renderdoc release to be paired with said testing?

[rose oasis]

yus

🤔 that's a good point

i need to add versioning to verify_install.py so when there's an update, it'll reinstall renderdoc

[dull swallow]

[fathom oyster]

I use Ollama Cloud of course, my RTX 4090 can’t handle the big models. I recently bought a Mac Mini to run OpenClaw, but it feels too dumb even when I use Opus 4.6 as the main model. So now I just use the Mac Mini for training an ML model for stock / crypto TA.

[fathom oyster]

For me, Ollama’s open source models are pretty good for most tasks. But if you want a cheap model specifically for coding, I actually recommend OpenCode Go, it works well with models like Minimax M2.7. For VRE though, it’s still not always good enough. If you have an OpenRouter account, you can try Qwen 3.6 Plus, it’s free to use for now. It seems to have coding skills close to Claude Opus 4.6, and in some benchmarks it even scores higher.

[rose oasis]

i was excited about GLM 5.1 mainly

😠 it's frustrating that it compacts convos at this usage amount

[atomic steppe]

Y'all can try my branch that has a harness to use Gemma or qwen coder 2.5 for token savings

https://github.com/Night1099/Vibe-Reverse-Engineering-Claude/tree/claude/archon-harness-research-Oeryu

[rose oasis]

😭 are we gonna have conflicting PRs again

[fathom oyster]

For me, GLM 5.1 is actually quite good, it handles many tasks very accurately. But for the VR mod, it keeps overthinking everything. Maybe it’s better for VRE, but I haven’t tested it yet. It only came out on Ollama a few days ago, so I haven’t had a chance to try it with VRE.

[atomic steppe]

Nah it's not close to a pr state

[rose oasis]

that's really neat though

[rose oasis]

this is done now

@candid mirage this should fix the issues you had with renderdoc dx9 the other day

[fathom oyster]

Actually, Kiro IDE/CLI is quite good for coding, especially for agent tasks. It saves more tokens than Claude Code, and its planning mode feels better in my experience. The agent hook is also really solid, I can let it code nonstop all day without any human interruption.

[quaint kelp]

That's neat. What's the sub

[candid mirage]

Now to find a way to get Claude to use image recongition to test games on its own

[fathom oyster]

Claude can read images, I just capture a screenshot and let it analyze it for VRE debugging together with the game control tools. You only need to save the image as a JPEG; no need to convert it to base64. The vision model can analyze the image directly.

[rose oasis]

that'd pretty rapidly waste context, but it'd be pretty simple

just package in a screenshot utility with vibe tools, and give it a good skill file on how to use it

[fathom oyster]

Or just pass the image to Gemma 4 (local or cloud) for analysis.

[rose oasis]

i tried gemma 4 for this and it was very inaccurate when analyzing images 🙁

[fathom oyster]

I use Qwen 3.5 2B GGUF (Q4_K_M) for image analysis through LM Studio, it’s really fast for quick comparison tasks. Things like checking whether a screenshot is black or not, or spotting the differences between before and after images.

[fathom oyster]

It’s really not worth it now without the Amazon Q Pro plan ($19 per month), unless you can modify it to use a custom provider...

[vagrant kernel]

The AI is trying to gaslight me into believing there is no tracer option in the ffp proxy menu

Why I oughta...

[rose oasis]

😖

it's the best option too

[candid mirage]

The AI told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command

[rose oasis]

new smoking gun ✨

[candid mirage]

🧱 🦶 🔫

[cold river]

iirc Anthropic said no to helping the govt doing something (which is their right to refuse) but bc this administration is so blatantly corrupt they just get threatened into cooperation

[crimson yacht]

Concrete footgun emoji when

[candid mirage]

Wtf man this abomination Claude generated. Kim new emoji for the server asap

[rose oasis]

[crimson yacht]

Incredible

[crimson yacht]

AGI finally achieved

[muted sun]

I could do better

[rose oasis]

it does this every time

it just looks at the wrong folder, claims the exe vanished, then finds it and says it reappeared

[quaint kelp]

gpt crapped itself like claude and drift off subject

[quaint kelp]

damn does not give you much

[rose oasis]

i'm

done

i just

CANNOT handle it anymore

they nerfed EVERYTHING

everything is fucked up and not working right

[quaint kelp]

ikr gpt was working this morning now its not

[quaint kelp]

dont stress, its your birthday. relax a bit. it seems kiro qwen3 is doing its job on my end but thats a different sub module

[quaint kelp]

managed to update some stuff before i ran out of free

[rose oasis]

anyone with claude subscription: use opus 4.5

it's 10x better than 4.6

it has smaller context but it's doing so much better that it just doesn't matter

[fallow helm]

Will definitely try that because... what the fuck is even going on anymore?

[atomic steppe]

just tried going back to npm version 2.1.62, its back to doing what it used to

had this bug that it actually did like a full trace and root cause where new version itd try a surface fix and give up lol

something interesting i saw as well

i have the little inline context bar readout

and on new versions itd start at 0% even after first prompt

well yah know go up slowly

but on this old version it immediatly went to 6% after first prompt and started from there i assume it actually read the rules and claudemd cuz its follwing that better too

anyways def worth a try im using wsl claude code cli

[bright ermine]

🧑‍🍳

[muted sun]

bruh

[bright ermine]

best part is i can probably get this to be single window with UI, man do i love java being easily decompilable

im only doing this for beta 1.7.3 because thats my fav version and modern MC has radiance

[muted sun]

ahhh lol

[bright ermine]

🤤

UVs and filtering is fixed but man what is with the biome tint lmao

[muted sun]

imagine seeing this back in the day lol

[bright ermine]

lol wut

[muted sun]

wonder how difficult it would be to get openmw working 🤔

[bright ermine]

probably not much?

its open source iirc?

[muted sun]

yeah

[bright ermine]

remix api will be the best way in that case

[muted sun]

just thinking of open source games I might be interested in working on lol

[bright ermine]

even with triangle backface culling off in remix, i think its doing some weird stuff with the alpha map

fixed, absolute peak

[dull swallow]

Is this actually Minecraft or another one of those like

Minecraft type apps

[bright ermine]

real beta 1.7.3

[dull swallow]

Wow

Does more modern titles work? Or js the beta

Either way

Woaw

[bright ermine]

possibly? it relies on decompiling the game so def not a drag-n-drop mod like unityrtx

so you'd have to do RE work on the ver you want

i only want to do 1.7.3 so uh yea

[dull swallow]

Ah

Fair

Tu75 is all id truly want anyways

Or whatever the java version is

1.13 maybe

[fallow helm]

Thank you so much for this tip. It SO much faster and doesn't take as much usage. I feel like it is actually wasting less tokens than Sonnet 4.6 does.

[bright ermine]

basic clouds and water

almost looks like radiance

[muted sun]

can I beat minecraft but with rtx remix

[bright ermine]

this is the one version that you cant beat 😛 (well there is achievements)

[muted sun]

damn

[muted sun]

your sky looks better than radiance lol

[bright ermine]

atmos sky

[sharp seal]

What does geometry hash even look like with Minecraft block based worlds

There's probably a block culling + large surface geometry triangulation to simplify larger structures. But I'm just guessing based off of a couple of videos I watched on how to make Minecraft clones in unity

[vagrant kernel]

Gotta say though Claude can crunch through way more todos in a single prompt than GPT. I feel like GPT is "programmed" to constantly ask questions, sometimes ones that make no sense. It can be quite token guzzling

[vagrant kernel]

Trying to get a D3D9 renderer for dethrace (Carmageddon source port that's actually the full game instead off the more barebones OpenC1) going and it's definitely not going as smoothly as GTA 1

If it could only find the smoking gun

[vagrant kernel]

It immediately went "wait no that's not it" but I'll take a smoking gun over a non-smoking one

[fallow helm]

I think Claude might be close to cracking FFP GPU skinning for OOT.

Not... everything lines up correctly just yet, but I assure you it all looks MUCH better than it did. The Remix toolkit even sees the bones!

[vagrant kernel]

That's awesome. Seems like it's coming along well

[fallow helm]

Honestly, this is one of the last somewhat major blockers, I think. There are some other more minor things like getting particles and clothing to tint correctly and whatnot, and making sure that all game-side lights are being passed through, but otherwise I think it is in good shape.

I will admit that I have not extensively tested it in a long session, so I cannot speak as to how stable it is.

[bright ermine]

haven't look at hashes but there is 0 culling

[rose oasis]

🙏 lemme know how the UI PR i did works if u end up using it

[bright ermine]

i will be trying it later today

i haven't looked at it but i assume it's graphics api agnostic?

[rose oasis]

ya

it's not specific to UI either. you could technically forward anything from the original game

it's just that UI makes the most sense

🙏 dudes i am almost close to getting near instant cell loading for Skyrim and FO4

[dull swallow]

Yayyyyyy

Also gm everynyan

[bright ermine]

gm

[quaint kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-command-conquer-command-and-conquer-command-%26-conquer-gif-7593324803480574924

[rose oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tired-sleepy-coffee-coffee-cup-gif-16510344054637063999

[dull swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-inside-bowl-chilling-gif-25525501

[quaint kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-good-morning-morning-bad-morning-grumpy-gif-8875216194732607603

[quaint kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/catfish-fishing-walking-gold-cat-gold-fish-gif-17141550

(◕‿◕)♡

[quaint kelp]

wheres the stuck part

[rose oasis]

threading issues

[quaint kelp]

if its performance, check for cpu bottlenecks with renderdoc. it fixes it

[rose oasis]

"Oh no, that's bad."

[quaint kelp]

lul

[rose oasis]

HOW

[quaint kelp]

yea it eats alot

geometry hashes

somehow

[rose oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/leet-bbtf-safe-moon-blockbusters-tech-gif-27506827

[quaint kelp]

did it auto export

might wana check drive space too

if it did that

https://tenor.com/view/sussa-gif-5432297967573209335

my project is 10gb as whole

wait nvm half

5 gb

[rose oasis]

holy shit i did it i did it

it loads INSTANTLY now

no more standing around for 30+ seconds waiting for it to load cells

it happens as soon as you exit interiors now

[quaint kelp]

nice

[crystal kiln]

What was the issue?

[rose oasis]

turns out loading all cells and geometry on a single thread will slow things down quite a bit 😰

getting async to work though was a nightmare

it was using 50+ GB RAM for the last couple hours

[crystal kiln]

Oh, you might've been IO-bound then. Sequentially loading world cells one at a time from disk

If you were truly IO-bound, you should be able to spawn many more threads than there are CPU cores in the machine, since they'll be mostly "sleeping" waiting for disk reads

[rose oasis]

it doesn't seem like that was the issue actually. moreso... it's just a loooot of geometry to be loading

[crystal kiln]

Debug View -> Primitive Index should tell you more or less how tris are distributed, if you're loading LODs correctly (I.e: not LOD0 for the entire terrain), once the geo is in memory, getting them into remix and then GPU should be really fast.

[rose oasis]

right now LODs aren't working at all. we are only loading LOD0, but the way it works is that only things that the game has set as LOD0 gets loaded. anything LOD1 or higher is just missing

i am afraid of how bad perf will be when we set up distant LODs...

[quaint kelp]

whats the lod look like

might be an old bug we had for dx9 oblivion

remember theres ini files that skyrim creates

in documents

[crystal kiln]

including terrain? I remember Morrowind terrain being split into chunks of like, 5x5 meters or so, and disabling culling to force it loading too far caused way too many unbatched instances at a time

[quaint kelp]

second pic what is that? i had issues with a similar game

[rose oasis]

yeah it is loading a big square like that, but that's what the game itself provides. then i apply culling on top of that in the skse plugin to help with performance. but i can't really limit what the game is sending to the plugin directly

[crystal kiln]

Geometry Hash

[quaint kelp]

ah ok

[rose oasis]

because it's being done through the API, cell data is simply being captured from the game and then sent to the plugin. i don't think i can capture this info after the culling is performed

[quaint kelp]

aw man im almost out of budget

[crystal kiln]

Are you capturing actual rendering submissions or you loop terrain renderables yourself and submit to the API? Maybe there are better hook points that give you the final mesh to be rendered without having to do culling/optimizations yourself (aside from removing frustum culling). Should be more compatible with mods that change terrain rendering too

[rose oasis]

The plugin reads Skyrim's heightmap data (land->loadedData) and manually builds terrain meshes from it - extracting vertex positions, normals, UVs, and textures, then submitting the constructed geometry to Remix via CreateMesh. We're not intercepting Skyrim's actual terrain render calls.```

asked claude just to make sure lol

this method was used because it was what SKSE and F4SE provided

using the rendering submissions would remove a lot of complexity though, so we should probably just try to find the addresses for it huh

[quaint kelp]

have you tried making a build without skse and f4se?

[rose oasis]

i can't do that

[quaint kelp]

ah

[vagrant kernel]

Love it when the AI is like "should we continue or is this good enough?" when absolutely nothing works or has been implemented correctly

[quaint kelp]

when you put a budget it puts it on the next bill right?

[crystal kiln]

Oof, yeah tesselating a heightmap is nasty business. If you can find a way to just capture what the game intended to render it should save you a ton of time reinventing game logic + take advantage of the LOD system, modding compatibility, become faithfull to the game, etc.

[quaint kelp]

did someone flip the switch on claude again

i have a weird issue where tabs flicker back and forth now

claude went to stupidville today

opus 4.5

it keeps trying to replace code thats already working repeadadly

[rose oasis]

grrrr

😠😠😠😠

govt is immune

[golden raven]

You're not government, bub.

I wish I was government

I have run out of all my apis and subscriptions and I can no longer pay for another

[quaint kelp]

the hell

im still using opus 4.5 in vscode

[sharp seal]

Do they even have Claude access here or is just the US government

Gobbling up the resources

[golden raven]

Probably us only

[quaint kelp]

claude ai reroute service

jk

i have to wait

lol

[candid mirage]

Claude for government def has seperate servers and doesnt get nearly as much usage as public, that shit will never go down

Claude Cowork will go down less, because what the hell is Cowork? 99% of users will just OpenClaw (of course Anthropic API cant be used anymore for it) or such

[rose oasis]

will give this a shot rn

ty for feedback

[quaint kelp]

oooh new name whos dis.

😛

[rose oasis]

this is the name i'm keeping

will be replacing all online stuff with this one

[quaint kelp]

did you let nvidia know in discord

[candid mirage]

https://klipy.com/gifs/fabulou-sparkles

[rose oasis]

✨

[rose oasis]

e-man knows now 😆

[quaint kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/posing-look-at-me-fab-sassy-flawless-gif-7433309364198440195

[candid mirage]

Real question is, did you update your name on your taxes??? (jk)

[quaint kelp]

humm

[rose oasis]

😭

[quaint kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-unicorn-caticorn-cat-unicorn-taylor-swift-gif-15475737

caticorn

[muted sun]

glad you didn't change your pfp at the same time lol
one of my friends changes their pfp constantly and it always messes me up

[rose oasis]

1+ hour brainstorming session with opus 4.5 about skyrim's culling system and the correct way to intercept it

it was actually smart and not infuriating to talk with!

4.6 is so bad

also guys, you can use claude code CLI in vs code and it'll have access to your workspace and everything

it's def an improvement

still very easy to use

😔

[quaint kelp]

im not testing it its too big

[rose oasis]

😔

[quaint kelp]

imagine how many textures remix would have to export

[rose oasis]

after i get skyrim working and backport it all to FO4, i might try starfield just to suffer

[quaint kelp]

starfield will use too much space with remix even . if the bridge does not crash

[rose oasis]

how tf is it so expensive still

[quaint kelp]

they've updated space is free roam now

[rose oasis]

bridge isn't necessary, 64 bit

[quaint kelp]

well ui hang i guess

all those hashes

1gb rtx.conf file when

[vagrant kernel]

Please don't waste your time on Starfield

[quaint kelp]

i dont rem buying this

[rose oasis]

it's the only game i put 100 hours into and only remember ~20 minutes worth of

[quaint kelp]

hey @rose oasis Enderal special edition a steam skyrim se mod that comes with skse should be doable

[rose oasis]

yeah that should work already

✨

halfway done

[rose oasis]

nvm i forgot it has its own exe and stuff

[opal ridge]

https://github.com/nicedreamzapp/claude-code-local

[quaint kelp]

😮 an ai pc

[sharp seal]

that $500 m4 mac mini sounds kinda good to use if this works

wait, how much ram does this need

[bright ermine]

good luck

[opal ridge]

Not sure, was just reading up on it, seeing it may be useful for some.

Ram costs are thankfully going down some.

[quaint kelp]

what is swappable with a mac

[bright ermine]

ngl this looks like a very sloppy repo

[rose oasis]

no

[sharp seal]

[rose oasis]

local models are not good enough

i promise

[sharp seal]

would need more ram than luck here

[quaint kelp]

how about a raspberry pi 5

[rose oasis]

the ONLY one i would consider running is GLM 5.1, and that requires an insane amount of RAM

[quaint kelp]

i mention cause of it can use terminal instead of an os

[rose oasis]

apple isn't the only way to go here either guys. getting those AMD APUs with the 8060s is a more cost effective route

[bright ermine]

still linux, gui or not
the broadcom soc it uses is extremely slow compared to even a macbook neo

[quaint kelp]

ah

fair enough

[bright ermine]

call me when they actually invest time into their compute backends

rocm is the biggest PoS i have ever used

[rose oasis]

on linux it's actually very good already for LLMs

[quaint kelp]

no toolkit for linux yet right?

[bright ermine]

that was not my experience with the 9070

[bright ermine]

so many random GPU lockups trying to do any inference

not to mention how shaky the support is in general with popular tools

[rose oasis]

i know a few people who use it and had no issues for llms

but they didn't use rocm

[quaint kelp]

hey @rose oasis can you make a linux branch of toolkit for linux with ai?

[rose oasis]

they used vulkan inference

[bright ermine]

yeah vulkan worked well for me

[rose oasis]

you tryin to kill me lol

[quaint kelp]

i can hug instead

lol

or just make a amd, intel branch of remix

[rose oasis]

😔

[golden raven]

The one dude I know who uses multiple 5090s to run glm

[quaint kelp]

qwen 3 is ok but it has its own issues with coding rn

[rose oasis]

using multiple arc b50 or a770 gpus is prob another more cost effective way

[quaint kelp]

i had to use claude opus 4.5 to look at the build errors

[rose oasis]

arc b50 has 16 GB VRAM and is $350

[quaint kelp]

i have a intel arc b580 oc 12 gb edition

[rose oasis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp_kiky7_OA

lol

[rose oasis]

how is it

[quaint kelp]

very good actually

although it has its own issues with remix with vulkan

i found ways around it though

[sharp seal]

Unfortunately the 32gb B70 is just too expensive

[quaint kelp]

but still hedious

[sharp seal]

I think it goes for around a thousand

[rose oasis]

yeah

but then compare it to the only other 32 GB consumer GPU in existence

5090, $3k

[sharp seal]

Can you game on it 👀

[rose oasis]

you can

[quaint kelp]

games run pretty well on intel arc

[rose oasis]

so

you need 256 GB RAM or VRAM for the smallest variant of GLM 5.1

[golden raven]

Ice cream?

[rose oasis]

yum

[quaint kelp]

yum

[rose oasis]

i'm having hard apple cider

[golden raven]

Here

[rose oasis]

1 hour in

[quaint kelp]

without zooming in i saw potatos with gravy

[solemn epoch]

Is this a dog bowl

[golden raven]

Metal human bowl

That said. Is there really a difference?

[quaint kelp]

make the bowl bigger

[golden raven]

A bowl is a bowl

Depends on how you use it

[rose oasis]

😔 it's 128 GB RAM max

[golden raven]

I got half of that

16x4

[dull swallow]

✨

[rose oasis]

i have 32x2

[quaint kelp]

whew prices

rip crucial

[alpine dove]

remember when people went crazy over apple overcharging for ram

good times

[rose oasis]

apple somehow manages to extra overcharge now

[quaint kelp]

only thing i rem about apple is that you couldnt modify the pc

[rose oasis]

honeslty though glm is good enough that it may be worthwhile at some point for some to invest in the RAM to run it locally

no more $200 subscriptions lol

it gets pretty damn close to Opus 4.6 in coding

[golden raven]

Glm is very good

[golden raven]

If you ever get it running. Let me use it for inference

[rose oasis]

🙏

🤔

does drinking alcohol make anyone else sweat

i normally don't drink

[golden raven]

Idk. Very Haram fo me

(I'd jump at the first opportunity I get)

[quaint kelp]

lol

it hung but launched

[dull swallow]

Try Og fortnite

!!!!

[quaint kelp]

okey

[sharp seal]

Big doubt

[golden raven]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quaint kelp]

where is the og one

[golden raven]

I've taken a couple different things that I probably shouldn't have.

But at least I'm not addicted

[quaint kelp]

nevermind

lol

[dull swallow]

Ezfn (dw mods epic allows it as long as they dont add purchases)

Youll have to do a tutorial online for it

Its been to long since ive installed

[rose oasis]

https://huggingface.co/inferencerlabs/GLM-5.1-MLX-2.5bit-INF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx8IPdbMlok

wow

i tried things like this with opus 4.6 and even that failed

[golden raven]

There's also REAP. I was able to run glm 4.6 locally with it.

It was slow, yes.

But it worked

[rose oasis]

😭 why tf am i considering this

[alpine dove]

how much does their ram cost now?

[rose oasis]

it would take over a year of me paying for the $200 claude sub for this to even get CLOSE to paying itself off

and i won't be doin that

[golden raven]

Idk if the reap team has worked on 5.1

[alpine dove]

They used to sell soddim chips at a 10x markup few years back right?

[rose oasis]

it's $6k for their 256 gb mac

[timid vine]

what its this chanell?

[rose oasis]

a channel for reverse engineering stuff with AI assistance

Claude/chatgpt

[pine coral]

Yes that's "normalish"

[dull swallow]

No other agents sorry thats baned

[bright ermine]

most of them are out of stock, even 64gb ones

[golden raven]

Off topic 2

[bright ermine]

people are catching wind... 🙁

wish i didnt sell my m4 pro mbp

[rose oasis]

😔

[rose oasis]

there are better options anyway imo

esp at those prices

6 way Arc b70 is gonna run faster and be the same price. plus you can do a lot of ohter stuff with it

[quaint kelp]

@dull swallow

[rose oasis]

though that is only 192 GB

[quaint kelp]

it got flagged

sorry

[dull swallow]

Dang

[vagrant kernel]

Trying to get a D3D game from 1997 to path trace is frying my brain

[muted sun]

what game? lol

[quaint kelp]

damn

which one

blood? blood 2?

etc

[vagrant kernel]

MDK

At this point I'm not even expecting great results. I just want to try to have any in game polys show up path traced

[quaint kelp]

i wonder if decent can be looked at

[candid mirage]

cool kids club

[vagrant kernel]

If there is one thing I wanna get outta this is being good at vibe reverse engineering path tracing into old games

Logically there is nothing preventing it

[quaint kelp]

why not port them to native windows

we do have re tools

guess game

still has ui issues

i cant select checkboxes or settings some reason

it will check and then disable

game was Mortal Shell

[rose oasis]

😠 and it makes me tired

that's all it does to me

i sweat and i get tired

😆

[vagrant kernel]

I really don't understand how an AI can be so dumb to rename a dll and then be surprised that a new log file written now has that name but at the same time produce any usable code ever

[alpine dove]

wait r u trying to launch an old build of fortnite thru the main exe?

oh nvm ur using ezfn

wait ur using ezfn?

Why not use a different tool that lets you play that build offline (lawin server, rift, era)

[quaint kelp]

i didnt know there was an offline build

[alpine dove]

there’ve been tools since 2020 to play fortnite builds offline

[quaint kelp]

installing fortnite again. good thing i have 2gb up and down

[vagrant kernel]

Carmageddon is the loudest game ever and the AI keeps opening new builds in the background wrecking my ears

Love the phrases we come up with

Silent Black Triangle

[crimson yacht]

Silent Black Triangle vs Loud White Circle who wins

[crimson yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/pen-in-flames-umineko-writing-in-flames-flames-gif-20892510

[quaint kelp]

those are no longer being worked on. i tried everything

even the domains are gone

[alpine dove]

you should try carbon then, sadly its not open source so use it at ur risk

[quaint kelp]

not touching it then

we have a thing on this discord about non legal stuff

we dont do it

im only using my disc 1 from my dump until i get that working right

DuckStation

[candid mirage]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-see-no-problem-here-crazy-eyes-1

[quaint kelp]

ue5 game running under dx11

2 fps

[hardy hound]

So who's going to use this job stealing, planet killing AI to retopologize 3d scans for me with a fancy new blender plugin?

[dull swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/823701463782916159/1470101521814257745/togif.gif

[hardy hound]

It's such a robotic job to do, you'll all be rich if it works

Same for UV unwrapping

[crimson yacht]

AI UV Unwrapping when (skill issue on my part tbh)

[hardy hound]

Oh mate a man can dream though

[crimson yacht]

AI Selection tool while we're at it

[quaint kelp]

offtopic 2

[hardy hound]

Sorry, have at it

[vagrant kernel]

Remixers see this and say peak

[bright ermine]

peak

[dull swallow]

peak

[tropic stream]

btw how's this going

[dull swallow]

@bright erminecan you tell me what you promted and used for minecrafT?

with a capital t

[bright ermine]

gpt 5.4

[dull swallow]

ok

[crimson yacht]

ive figured it out, #offtopic is secretly #wordle and this is the real #offtopic

[candid mirage]

[bright ermine]

off-topic-4

[candid mirage]

What if the real #offtopic was just the friends we made along the way?

[rose oasis]

skyrim is not goin well with that new method

cannot get valid data

[dull swallow]

noo

[rose oasis]

pretty upsetting tbh

[dull swallow]

yehahh

[rose oasis]

[dull swallow]

i wanna try using my credits for minecraft tu75 but we dont know how to do any of this properly still

and itd prolly waste too much

[rose oasis]

to learn, i'd recommend doing a game that's already been done. like outrun 2006. you'll learn a lot from that, and have a good reference to compare with if you get stuck

[pine coral]

def hit the frustration detector with that one...

[rose oasis]

my prompt was pretty aggressive

14 hours on this fucking thing

[pine coral]

reasonable

[dull swallow]

i mean minecraft was done by cr

[rose oasis]

combined with finding out that the only place i found to rent wants me to earn 9k per month...

[dull swallow]

but only for beta

[rose oasis]

yeah i meant to learn how to use these tools though. newer MC could probably be done still

[dull swallow]

ah

[rose oasis]

😠😠😠😠 i'm havin a bad night

basically all of my moving plans blew up 😭

[dull swallow]

aw noo

sorry to hear that that sucks

for the fucks of it im gonna barley try wolfenstein the new order

to see if i can even get anything out of that

would you recomend a to dx9 or remix api for that

cuz its uh

pretty far opengl

[rose oasis]

api

[dull swallow]

kk

so id start with prompting it to trace shader calls/geometry data and decompile them?

sorry didnt mean for 2

2 always sounds mean

[rose oasis]

unfortunately i don't really have good guidelines/recommendations

so far, everyone working with the API for these use-cases has either had access to the source code for the game/engine, extensive documentation on how it works, or a modding toolkit that has most of the info required

this game does not. you're prooobably not gonna get very far

[dull swallow]

a

bleh

[rose oasis]

no ur oki

[dull swallow]

tno would be cool but ion wanna waste credits

[rose oasis]

yus 😖

[muted sun]

a great possibly?

[rose oasis]

[dull swallow]

hm

everything we have is either unity or closed source or dx11 bleck

welll

my only thing id actually try with no real like

source or whatever is psychonauts 2

[rose oasis]

that one miighttt work

like

if the game has clear strings that the LLM can search for annad figure out, it might work

[dull swallow]

https://github.com/bgbennyboy/Psychonauts-Explorer i mean this does exist idk how useful itd be

wait thats 1

nvm

[dull swallow]

our only only fear

idk if this is good or not

ik ue has common strings (at least for 2.5)

[rose oasis]

ohhhh...

maybe good

but also kinda scary

[dull swallow]

yeahhh

so for that case i would ask it to look for common ue4 strings related to geometry and textures first?

[rose oasis]

yeah

downloading that massive list of common console commands and giving it to claude or w/e to search though would prob be useful too

[dull swallow]

what list

https://pongrit.github.io/?

?

this

[rose oasis]

ya

[dull swallow]

oki

wish us luck on this learning process

our prompt will be

[rose oasis]

[dull swallow]

"using the workspace (idk how to point to e mans decomp or if i should point to something else?) as well as UE4console commands try to find and locate common strings for rendering with this game for geometry and textures"

or should i say more?

[rose oasis]

first, you want to clone this locally: https://github.com/sambow23/dxvk-remix-gmod/tree/unity

- dxvk-remix-gmod - this is a customized version of remix that has UI and skinning support through the Remix API
- game folder
- project folder

within the project folder, i have UE4consolecommands.txt. you can grep this to find potentially useful strings to search for in the game files/binary. ask questions if you are unsure, do not assume the answer```