(WIP) Camera Proxy for RTX Remix

[thorn hedge]

@vernal charm you can't replace assets in games where geometry is rendered through vertex shaders

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/222

[minor hazel]

I'm gonna do it, bring mark here

It must happen

[vernal charm]

Idk I am pretty sure my DMC4 replacements loaded and felt more stable but I might be mistaken. I felt like gained some stability after I did. But it might be placebo. I only spent about 20+ hours on the other side of the spectrum as I saw it. I have yet to fully explore it

[thorn hedge]

i promise, this is a longstanding issue

there are at least 20 games affected by it

barnyard is one of them

[vernal charm]

Yeah I have been told a lot of things this past year but here we are

[thorn hedge]

that's not what i mean

if you wanna fix it, please do

but right now this is a limitation

[vernal charm]

I know, did not mean to come accross that way 🙂

[minor hazel]

@late birch is there a possibility of shader based games having mesh replacements possible? If so how could one do it.

[thorn hedge]

sorry, feel pretty sick rn so things aren't processing well lol

[vernal charm]

Very relateable

[minor hazel]

We were able to get at least one non FFP game to properly render with the camera proxy tool and you can get captures of it pretty cleanly, but getting replacements to work is impossible

[vernal charm]

DMC 4 Texture replacement analysis by claude:

Texture replacement is loading and working. Here's the breakdown:

Mod Structure - looks correct:

• mod.usda with proper lightspeed_layer_type = "replacement" header
• 39 material overrides defined in mod.usda
• 40 .dds texture files on disk (1 extra texture file, not a problem)

Log Confirms Loading:

• rtx.enableReplacementAssets = True (line 60)
• Asset search path set to e:\benchmarks\rtx-remix\mods\dmc4_pbrify\ (line 305)
• Remix scanned and found the textures — 8 of the 40 triggered mip-map warnings, which actually confirms they were
  loaded successfully (just suboptimal):
  • 228F3B9165F3615A.dds
  • 39CA148250E4D286.dds
  • 61D9A9B937852BEE.dds
  • 8EAE7E87146E2A98.dds
  • A68476771E65B323.dds
  • B3F032D0A726C50F.dds
  • F686A8FDE62DC34D.dds
  • FB9864D0C4407C8C.dds

No errors about missing textures or failed USD parsing — the mod loaded cleanly.

One thing to note: Due to the MT Framework hash instability issue, not all 39 material hashes will necessarily match
at runtime — only the ones whose hashes happen to match the current LOD/camera distance will get replaced. The
remaining 32 textures that didn't trigger warnings were likely loaded silently (Remix only warns about the mip-map
issue, not about successful loads). You'd want to generate mip-maps for those 8 flagged textures to avoid potential
quality/performance issues.

My GPu will run out of VRAM before I can provision the whole game this way tho

[minor hazel]

Oh btw were you able to see signs of hw skinning happening with your dmc4 camera proxy?

[vernal charm]

Not that I can tell. However I am not sure as to what exactly you mean I am believe it or not very new to this scene.

[minor hazel]

Hardware skinning, animated meshes properly deforming and having super stable hashes throughout

[vernal charm]

Whether Remix is getting correct animated character geometry for ray tracing?

[minor hazel]

Yes, with stable hashes to go along with

[vernal charm]

Oh, no I do not think it does. It looks very messed up currently.

It looks so sexy and messed up at the same time

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/pull/113

This one is interesting and might alleviate a lot of things. Shared to me by someone smarter than myself

[sick mesa]

Captures

[vernal charm]

You should add a NSFW tag to that

[sick mesa]

Why

[vernal charm]

Because it is sexy

[sick mesa]

Oh

[vernal charm]

I commited wrong version to git but "fixed" it now.

[dense arrow]

the experimental build didnt get pinned?

can someone send me the latest build in actions?

[formal linden]

i cant seem to be able to build the experimental branch, can someone post the d3d9.dll here directly?

[minor hazel]

This is what we tried with barnyard, so it's experimental

[sick mesa]

gonna try lego indiana jones with this maybe

or one of the legos

woah

another fused world view one and the texutres themselves are loaded on a rendertarget

lost cause p much

indiana jones js becomes a black screen when it happens

[atomic plaza]

Does ue3 work

[minor hazel]

do you have mirror's edge?

[atomic plaza]

I have batman

[minor hazel]

someone plz try lmao

this might be hardcoded for mirror's edge though

[soft osprey]

FINALLY SOMEONE IS DOING THE LEGO MOVIE GAME

[minor hazel]

I have fixed some issues regarding imgui game input especially after concerns of it not working in FNV and the likes of it

Prince of Persia Sands of Time now responds to imgui menu input

[maiden furnace]

please tell me i can download this

i need it

[sick mesa]

The answer is no

[minor hazel]

So it's just the Lego movie that renders, albeit incorrectly and the fact that textures are all messed up?

[sick mesa]

yeah

the game renders, but no textures and alot of missing geo

or well

no proper textures

[minor hazel]

[minor hazel]

(WIP) Camera Proxy for RTX Remix

[dense arrow]

What is the hotkey for the menu? Wasn't working for me the other day

[maiden furnace]

the hotkey changed to F10

[dense arrow]

Sometimes f10 will not work

But remix will

[late birch]

What is preventing mesh replacements from working? Are the mesh hashes unstable when vertex shaders are being applied?

(Disclaimer: I haven't looked at the vertex shader capture stuff in a long time, and even when I did it was just skimming over code written by the people who actually know how this stuff works.)

[minor hazel]

The mesh hashes appear to be stable when rendered through the vertex shaders but when loading up the capture and attaching some replacement meshes. The expected replacement won't appear

It could be that the hashes change upon restart?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1471158923842158755/1471905937026711796/METAL_GEAR_RISING__REVENGEANCE_2026-02-13_11-27-08.mp4?ex=6995e8ba&is=6994973a&hm=b0424646cfa5c3d5961817a9c55d6310e5d0a3b6c61616b11e0e1f6f5a99e255&

[late birch]

ah... I believe vertex shaders aren't applied to replacement meshes, so if the game uses vertex shaders to apply the world->object transform to the mesh, then all your replacements are sitting at 0,0,0 instead of wherever they're supposed to be. I think other vertex shader based games have run into similar problems

It might be possible to change that - our vertex shader support is pretty bare bones, and I haven't ever looked into what we'd have to do to make it possible to pass our meshes into a game's vertex shader. It'd probably require some game specific code tho, presuming the vertex shaders take custom input formats

[minor hazel]

if the meshes are sitting at origin then that means it's not going through the vertex shader and aren't being placed into the world through local space -> world space

That's tricky

[late birch]

yeah - either we need something to pull a world->object transform out of the vertex shader's uniforms (tricky, and doesn't handle all the other things a vertex shader can do), or we need to pass the replacement mesh into the vertex shader (also tricky, since we need to convert our USD mesh replacement into whatever format the vertex shader expects)

[minor hazel]

we can't really tell what a specific vertex shader does, it's hard enough to get the required matrices from a game already for it to render, I can't imagine how to push custom objects into the original vertex shader pipeline and then be able to render it properly

Is there something that maybe we could figure out on our end?

Regarding the replacements to work?

[turbid burrow]

first 2 matrices are one that has moving camera from player

im probably missing something but also btw its arma 2

[minor hazel]

Looks off, did you check the pins?

[turbid burrow]

it has fixed value

[minor hazel]

Yep that can't be world

Look into the list of shaders, and then move the camera around, standing still

You should see some hints of specific shader names changing color

Beware some registers might contain values for skinning bones etc

These are just always changing no matter if you're still or moving

[turbid burrow]

"shader names changing color"?

[dense arrow]

So shaders are swapping between cams?

Confused

[minor hazel]

The list shows which shaders have their values changed recently, either though a faint red color change and the addition of [changed] at the end

[dense arrow]

How are shader model 3 games with this proxy?

[minor hazel]

Shaders use the camera matrices for their own vertex shader functions, can't tell exactly what it's doing

[dense arrow]

So it's probably getting confused from the origin?

[minor hazel]

Yes, the auto detect deliberately shifts between different constant registers to try and match what 4x4 floats "look like" correct matrices

In the end you should self configure the correct matrices manually

Auto detect is just there to give an idea if it latches onto a correct one by itself

[dense arrow]

So you have to lock it somehow?

Reminds me trying to use cheat engine

Lol

Jump. Floats. Mov

[turbid burrow]

it has changed cameras but it doesnt have moving cameras for active one it doesnt say its changed

[minor hazel]

Yes through the ini

[minor hazel]

the one that says active is the default register that is present. All the other shaders need to be carefully examined

It is impossible to not have some shaders hold the correct values

[minor hazel]

Can you show the camera tab for a sec?

[turbid burrow]

green ones are moving cameras

OOPS

[minor hazel]

This looks good

[minor hazel]

Might be a world matrix

[minor hazel]

No projection detected yikes

[turbid burrow]

although view comes from player camera

idk what can i do right now

[minor hazel]

I see you're using an older version of proxy

[turbid burrow]

nope

[minor hazel]

Mind if I send you the latest one in DM?

It's from another branch

[turbid burrow]

go on

[minor hazel]

It's so far ahead around c211

I meant to upload a pic but F discord

[minor hazel]

Oh hey the projection matrix works

Does the view or projection change when you look around or change FOV?

[turbid burrow]

projection has fixed value

view still changes

oh wait projection DOES change when fov is changed

[minor hazel]

Can you turn off world transforms? In the remix menu

[minor hazel]

Yes, that's from the game

That means the tool is working somewhat

[turbid burrow]

,

[dense arrow]

Gloomy

[turbid burrow]

when i select one of texture to ray traced camera it turns to ray traced but very wonky

[dense arrow]

Screenshot?

Wrong cam?

[turbid burrow]

wack enough to work

world is still same

[minor hazel]

That's enough arma 2 for today

[turbid burrow]

i have more things to do

still funny screenshot tho

[minor hazel]

I see that it found MVP

at c5

[turbid burrow]

i have to reset game each time i screenshotted since it will cause annoying scrolling problem on remix menu

[turbid burrow]

MVP?

[minor hazel]

Nvm, it's a dud

@turbid burrow what other games do you have that are running on shaders

[turbid burrow]

arma armed assault ,Ghost recon advanced warfighter 1,2 and future soldier

future soldier did work with extended support shader branch but crashed once the game started

[minor hazel]

Advanced warfighter huh...which one of the ghost recon games had Ageia Physx support ?

[turbid burrow]

yup

[minor hazel]

Think it was the first 1, saw a demo video of it. Pretty insane physx demonstration

[turbid burrow]

future soldier still crashes :(

[minor hazel]

Even with normal remix?

[turbid burrow]

never tried it but it had sm3 dx9

graw 1 did work with normal remix way before but has weird issue

im going to try it again with proxy right now

[dense arrow]

Looks like the sky isn't checked

Or is missing

[turbid burrow]

im trying virtual sailor now but it has issues with ui not being working

it should be look like this (took from google) but it doesnt appear even i tagged everything as ui

[minor hazel]

If the game is already sending FF compatible SetTransform calls then there should never be a need for proxy to interfere and disturb the original rendering

Guh i never put down any checks to detect such thing

[turbid burrow]

able to make to get lighting from sky but it has flickering-like issue ( light is constantly changing what does it do is like flashing but way slower) from the game

[minor hazel]

Which game is this?

[thorn hedge]

consider printing the commit and full path for the game exe at the top of the generated log file so you have less troubleshooting

[minor hazel]

Good idea. I'll likely have to do that tomorrow

Feedback for this type of stuff is a must

[turbid burrow]

arma 2

[minor hazel]

This does look a little better than yesterday

[turbid burrow]

yes

i did achieve similar thing before but no sky being present

at the moment im trying to address the flashing problem

[minor hazel]

You could show me a video of this + geometry hash debug view

Makes it a lot easier for me to judge what the game might be doing

[turbid burrow]

i cant do it without remix being moving itself after doing that

[minor hazel]

😓

[turbid burrow]

@minor hazel

[minor hazel]

The sun is leaking 🫣

[minor hazel]

working on a live shader asm viewer and shader analysis tool. eventually i would want this to be able to patch vertex shaders, though it's a little advanced

[turbid burrow]

Neat

[minor hazel]

The assembly viewer sometimes might show or reveal the location of required matrices btw

If this goes according to plan

👀

I will also try to implement a basic RemixAPI support to forward any lights etc captured from the shaders to remix

[sick mesa]

👀

[sick mesa]

EHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE

[minor hazel]

Finding matrices just became ez 💵💵💵

[steady parcel]

siiick
most of the dx9 games I've looked at with renodx have the constant names left over

wonder how well dishonored would work with remix now

[minor hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/bubbles-gold-mine-gif-26994345

[soft osprey]

tanley scareable

[minor hazel]

Though I'm noticing a lot of combined matrices, I currently don't have a universal decomposition method for combined forms

[sick mesa]

much to our frusttration

[low laurel]

Guitar Hero World Tour with the Definitive Edition mod only gives a black screen

[sick mesa]

Are you able to go to the texture tab and select anything

[cedar hazel]

yep thats black all right

[sick mesa]

Actually its just very very very very dark grey

https://tenor.com/view/black-grey-gray-uniform-lego-batman-gif-5690571216915555564

[cedar hazel]

*uhm acktually 🤓 *

[sick mesa]

WERRRRRRRMMMMM AAAAATCHSHTHUALLLLLEYYYYYY

https://tenor.com/view/middle-finger-emoji-middle-finger-gif-cat-gif-26555645

[cedar hazel]

[sick mesa]

Back to the gmod mines to you

[minor hazel]

Wrong chanel

[cedar hazel]

anything but that pls

[sick mesa]

Fine then to the unity api mines to you

[cedar hazel]

yeah unity needs some love

[minor hazel]

And then UE4

🥀

[sick mesa]

As your watcher
A. Is it worth it for whatever you have planned
B. Is it gonna stress you/burn you out

Im like Jimeny from puss in boots

[cedar hazel]

A. nothing planned yet, i need to look at whats needs the most attention first
B. probably not

[sick mesa]

Ok

[minor hazel]

@sick mesa we might actually be cooked with some games

[sick mesa]

How come

[minor hazel]

Some games only ship with View Proj or MVP

Like

They think they were cool

[sick mesa]

Like the Stanley parable

[minor hazel]

Yee

[sick mesa]

What needs the most attention and probably the easiest to do? From my constant going back to it would be texture titling correctly, the most attention that isnt the easiest is still missing geometry

[sick mesa]

Damn it

[minor hazel]

Decomposition requires one of the two things to extract the other. Like I said before

Unless

Auto detect finds it

[sick mesa]

Which doesnt happen in tsp

[minor hazel]

Show me the camera tab for tsp

Like what does it detect on its own

[sick mesa]

One second

Making

Pbj

[minor hazel]

yum

[minor hazel]

No view

No projection either

But this world matrix looks correct

[sick mesa]

the world matrix seems to freeze alot tho

[minor hazel]

Did you find only VP or was there MVP?

[sick mesa]

just vp

everything only said viewproj

[minor hazel]

😑

Alright we'll figure something out

[maiden furnace]

how do i fix this? C:\Windows\System32>"C:\Users*****\Downloads\camera-proxy-shaders\camera-proxy-shaders\do_build.bat"
The system cannot find the drive specified.
The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.
The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.
The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.
The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.
The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.
The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.
The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.

C:\Windows\System32>

[low laurel]

It's in the start menu

[sick mesa]

what

[minor hazel]

Trust me I just don't use that

[turbid burrow]

i will test dark sector soon

[turbid burrow]

havent achieved anything yet still need to check more

ray trace able in certain angles but unstable af

[minor hazel]

You can see VS shader assembly for identifying important matrices layouts

In shader tab

I've also added a very initial auto decomposition logic for combined matrices such as MVP, MV, or VP

configure them through the ini

(I'm still updating the proxy constantly so these updates are not part of current release still :/ )

[turbid burrow]

im too noob for that

trying on arma 2 to see what can i do with the new functions

[minor hazel]

(I need to make proper instructions some time later and documentation)

This is all updating too fast so I apologize 😞

[turbid burrow]

lmk when new one comes out

[minor hazel]

There will be a release build for that + instruction and technical detail 🙂

[thorny wind]

i cant get it working

[minor hazel]

Dolphin.exe?

[thorny wind]

yes, i was trying to remix gamecube games

[minor hazel]

Show camera proxy log file as well

[thorny wind]

there isnt any, do i have to install it on the main folder instead of .trex folder?

[soft osprey]

Wowwwww and not tux racer?

fake fan?

[thorny wind]

no, im not trying to remix tux racer since its almost impossible now

cause its an opengl game that uses display lists

[soft osprey]

dw im also a fake fan

[minor hazel]

Yes, place it near game or emulator exe

What version are you using atm?

[thorny wind]

version of rtx remix or camera proxy?

[minor hazel]

Both

[thorny wind]

rtx remix: rtx-remix-for-x86-games-3c59202-1095-release camera proxy: 0.2.0

[minor hazel]

If there's a camera proxy log then that would be helpful

[thorny wind]

now it has camera proxy log but the rtx remix bridge is still logging the same thing

[minor hazel]

Does it work with remix alone first? Because the camera proxy logs suggests it's working correctly

Just that bridge fails

[thorny wind]

yeah, the bridge fails

maybe 1.3.6-release works

no it doesnt work

[minor hazel]

For proxy to work, either you can use without remix first to see if there's any info being extracted

[thorny wind]

yeah, the camera proxy works perfectly i think

[maiden furnace]

i found out that if you go super far in unity 4x games sharedassets code you can find the shaders just... laying there

[thorny wind]

i remember the rtx remix runtime worked fine on the x64 version of dolphin

[maiden furnace]

looking at it its split into different rendering so like: "opengl, d3d9, d3d11, d3d11_9x"

[minor hazel]

@cedar hazel I need advice, I'm trying to do an initial remixapi setup and trying to compile but my dumbass forgot it's for 64-bit only 💀. Meanwhile my proxy only accounts for x86 (to be compatible with 32bit games)

[cedar hazel]

#1259520234105339974 message

xoxor4d handled this

oh its already merged

should just work then?

i've only used the API for x64 myself so i havent touched this at all

[minor hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-rock-mp4-transparent-color-gif-11114772717737196968

(I'm gonna fail miserably)

[turbid burrow]

tried outlast when in certain camera angles can ray trace but also its unstable af

[trim thunder]

It seems that setting client.DirectInput.forward.mousePolicy and
client.DirectInput.forward.keyboardPolicy to true in the bridge.conf had fixed the input issue with the memory scanner.

[minor hazel]

Use the shaders tab, currently it's not ray tracing

There you must look into the VS shaders to see asm editor, sometimes it'll tell you the registers for a particular matrix

Look for anything in the assembly editor that looks like
Projection
Model (localtoworld)
View
Viewproj
Modelviewproj
Modelview (localtoview)

[thorn hedge]

@minor hazel where's the latest build?

[minor hazel]

please try experimental branch to compile it on your end, I'm trying to make remix API work atm

[thorn hedge]

hm

gettin errors building it

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\2022\Community\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.44.35207\include\filesystem(12): warning STL4038: The contents of <filesystem> are available only with C++17 or later.
d3d9_proxy.cpp(2899): error C2039: 'filesystem': is not a member of 'std'
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\2022\Community\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.44.35207\include\fstream(20): note: see declaration of 'std'
d3d9_proxy.cpp(2899): error C3083: 'filesystem': the symbol to the left of a '::' must be a type
d3d9_proxy.cpp(2899): error C2039: 'create_directories': is not a member of 'std'
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\2022\Community\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.44.35207\include\fstream(20): note: see declaration of 'std'
d3d9_proxy.cpp(2899): error C3861: 'create_directories': identifier not found
d3d9_proxy.cpp(2905): error C2039: 'filesystem': is not a member of 'std'
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\2022\Community\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.44.35207\include\fstream(20): note: see declaration of 'std'
d3d9_proxy.cpp(2905): error C3083: 'filesystem': the symbol to the left of a '::' must be a type
d3d9_proxy.cpp(2905): error C2039: 'create_directories': is not a member of 'std'
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\2022\Community\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.44.35207\include\fstream(20): note: see declaration of 'std'
d3d9_proxy.cpp(2905): error C3861: 'create_directories': identifier not found
imgui.cpp
imgui_draw.cpp
imgui_tables.cpp
imgui_widgets.cpp
imgui_impl_dx9.cpp
imgui_impl_win32.cpp
Generating Code...```

it's alright i'll just leave it for now

[dense arrow]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/error-messages/compiler-errors-2/compiler-error-c3861?view=msvc-170

[minor hazel]

Hi, we've moved to another account for the repository so actions builds should work now

[dense arrow]

cool

[trim thunder]

is that shader tab part of the experimental branch?

[minor hazel]

https://github.com/RemixProjGroup/camera-proxy/actions/runs/22268254129

[sick mesa]

with this branch

smooth frames yay

[minor hazel]

https://github.com/RemixProjGroup/camera-proxy/releases/tag/v0.3.0

placeholder2

[minor hazel]

Texture corruption?

Those look like UVs for character models

[trim thunder]

Those are lightmaps

[minor hazel]

Oh F, dies tagging them as lightmap or ignore texture does anything for you

[trim thunder]

It renders nothing when i ignore them, and tagging them as lightmaps does nothing.

[minor hazel]

lost cause ig :/

Could it be possible to disable lightmaps from the game side maybe?

Not through remix, cuz it's not letting anything render properly

[trim thunder]

I've tried that with the other games (and this game ips), and it did the same thing.

[trim thunder]

Pretty sure i got the ccrrect matrices, although the UV warping in this game persists.

[minor hazel]

Yep looks okay to me, does it work with auto detect or were assembly editor comments helpful in locating them through the shader tab

Idk how to address the UVs, the rest of the rendering depends on remix to intercept shaders and make use of them

[trim thunder]

The editor comments were more helpful.

[minor hazel]

I wonder if Nvidia tech demos work 👀

[midnight jewel]

subnautica!!!!
made a custom build for X64/let AI create a custom build....
(compressed to 10MB videos)

[minor hazel]

You're wild for this

This should be in showcase, this is actually good shit

[sick mesa]

Holy shit

[atomic plaza]

da runestorm game

[minor hazel]

@midnight jewel use actions build from here, I see you have old version #1471158923842158755 message

[native sphinx]

no way

we want rtx for this game

[minor hazel]

We might need x64 support 🤔🤔🤔

[midnight jewel]

should be Updated Now
also (still made with AI)
https://github.com/Digitalgaming1/camera-proxy-X64

[soft osprey]

how is that ocean effect even working in remix?

[midnight jewel]

More
How is the sky working almost perfectly with remix?

[soft osprey]

like i was expecting the water shader to be fully broken and needing replacement

[vivid hound]

Wha

[trim thunder]

just needs real time caustics

[minor hazel]

@midnight jewel sorry for the ping again but can you show us debug view, geometry hashes

For subnautica

[midnight jewel]

I Noticed some stuff randomly becomes stable and unstable even when moving
like the lifepod flashing A lot before i started recording same with the water
But turned stable after starting to record

[minor hazel]

Very unpredictable

[sick mesa]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1471159147272737003/1475148923361296597/NvRemixBridge_2026.02.22_-_10.12.48.03.mp4?ex=699c6efe&is=699b1d7e&hm=18d5f6ed8a717b04b3092aaaf02061d009a0719607b7e55a8bdd766972c9b1c5&

Posting this here too

[minor hazel]

Just added x86 Remix API in the shaders branch (just got to initialize and be running along with the camera proxy now), as an experiment I hope to get lighting data from shaders and send it to remix directly using it

If you guys have any idea how this could be leveraged with the RemixAPI do let me know

[thorn hedge]

can you give some example scenarios where this would be useful?

struggling to visualize it

[sick mesa]

Getting lights from shaders is beneficial in 2 parts, one being emissives (i think) and the other being the fact that there isnt really any way to add custom lights

[minor hazel]

Since replacements aren't possible, we could potentially have some level of control over mesh replacements

(If it's possible but I'll check)

[sick mesa]

Still wonder if its possible to make a mesh/textures to remix api (probably not)

[thorn hedge]

i don't think it is

[minor hazel]

Probably, if it can be forwarded then setting up replacement textures should technically be easy

[thorn hedge]

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/blob/main/documentation/RemixSDK.md

[minor hazel]

But api lights seem to be the most logical step and as a test. Since we can't add lights why not just pull lights straight from shaders (if it is exposed that way)

Current implementation for capturing lights depends on FFP lighting patterns, this will work for some simpler games where lighting data is predictable enough to be forwarded to api

But shader based games store everything in the constant registers, so just like assigning manual register overrides. We need to have register overrides for lights, color intensity etc

[sick mesa]

@minor hazel

remix api lights work

[minor hazel]

The fuck

[sick mesa]

the distant light still has the same issue

[minor hazel]

Yayy

[sick mesa]

actually

all lights do

[minor hazel]

Oh what issue

[sick mesa]

moving the camera

causes the shadows to move

esc

[minor hazel]

Ah fuck

I think the way the other lights move with camera

Even without the API lights

Might be tied to that

I don't know what's causing it

[sick mesa]

we wouldnt have the issue if we didnt have to used fused view

if the game didnt move around the camera

[minor hazel]

Instead the world is moving around the camera

[sick mesa]

yes

thats the issue

we need the camera to move around the world

[minor hazel]

🤔

You did try fused world view, that managed to fix the issue somewhat

[sick mesa]

thats whats causing the issue

using world view renders nothing

using fused view renders everything but the sky moves

[minor hazel]

And no fused world works but camera moves right?

[sick mesa]

could you rephrase?

[minor hazel]

What I mean is that without fused world view, everything renders correctly, except for the fact that lights move around with the camera. I know what to fix though

I might be setting the lights up with view instead of world space

[sick mesa]

without the fused view (not world view) nothing renders

[minor hazel]

Might be a quirk with the shaders branch in particular because with experimental branch you said it didn't need one

[sick mesa]

well

world transform does it too

sorry

idk how to explain it well im not an expert on the cause of it

wede preferablly want no transorm at all so we can also set up anti culling

[minor hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/spearhyunho-gif-17038186950213244823

[sick mesa]

as in the setting

sorry my pc crashed

@vernal charm gonna move this over here, do you have any idea on this at all?

oops

forgot to reply

[sick mesa]

this issue

with the sun

[minor hazel]

i wonder if i could have more animation presets added

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1471159147272737003/1475651382047543451/NvRemixBridge_2026.02.23_-_19.29.26.03.mp4?ex=699e42f1&is=699cf171&hm=cbdc92eb8e5aef1a0cc8e52af3a1cf8949de062481b7e483afd32060b399ce3b&

menu a little jank but i can improve it later on

[vernal charm]

I think the rtx menu could do with a redesign. It looks like osmething from the Hl2 era.

[minor hazel]

Welp, back to refining combined matrices further. I can mess with api when it's viable to use them with shaders etc

[trim thunder]

Filter options in the shader tab should be expanded to allow you to search for keywords within all the current shaders or the currently selected shader.

[minor hazel]

you mean search within asm for all shaders?

for keywords?

[trim thunder]

yes

[minor hazel]

i gotchu

🫡

[minor hazel]

Lego hobbit?

[trim thunder]

LOTR

[minor hazel]

Oh, cool

[atomic plaza]

Night vision

[thorn hedge]

😔 no gta v

[minor hazel]

That's the forbidden game, it simply cannot work

Btw, can y'all let me know when you do get results with this proxy, does the fallback light always follows the camera?

[sick mesa]

as in the sun moving ts

[minor hazel]

Yee

[dense arrow]

thats probably the world transform setting in view mode

[sick mesa]

even that didnt work so

[dense arrow]

damn

is it anti culling?

[sick mesa]

No

Anti culling doesnt work

[paper jay]

Do you get the same thing with the older lego titles? I know someone got Lego Batman 1 to work but the textures were warped there too

[trim thunder]

No. Batman 1 doesn't have that issue, nor does anything else on the first engine fme. it's only post indiana jones 2 where the issue comes present. (and it's for pretty much all games past that point)

[trim thunder]

This may sound a little stupid, but as a temporary "fix" for the issues revolving textures, would it be possible to have an option to "mix" the raster input of the game with the remix renderer? (setting to white material textures on Remix's side) - Kinda like remix if it was reshade. (this would probably not work in some cases where the game uses pixel shaders for stuff, but it'd be cool to see)

[minor hazel]

I'm sorry but I do not understand how rasterized results could coincide with remix

[minor hazel]

https://github.com/RemixProjGroup/camera-proxy/pull/114

Just tested and it works

[trim thunder]

I mean't that as in mixing a screen sized render target (rasterized target the game outputs - there's a few of these in the texture catagory) with what the Remix renderer outputs (ignoring cutouts and whatever else that may look off, on Remix's side).

It's like mixing both of these images in real time as a post processing effect.

[minor hazel]

Ohhh

Like a rasterized overlay

Then do a post effect color multiply

[trim thunder]

yes

[minor hazel]

This is somewhat hacky but logically sound enough to might work

[sick mesa]

#showcase message

Do you think it'd possibly fix that?

[trim thunder]

Maybe, but it'd probably look weird in some places.

[sick mesa]

Damn

[minor hazel]

@trim thunder would it not be feasible to have this option exposed in the remix runtime instead of the proxy?

I've researched about this request and it's a sort of compositor that'll function as a colour blending overlay. I will implement this in a bit and test it out but just asking if it could instead be requested on the remix runtime side

[trim thunder]

Since the proxy is more for camera stuff i'd see it making more sense not there.

[minor hazel]

Alright. I'll add this

[minor hazel]

will use remix API to accomplish this probably

[paper jay]

Well the textures are still broken on all lego games either way unfortunately, Just tried it on LS TCS with the latest (vanilla) Remix and it still has that weird texture bug. Plus the lightsaber hilt is invisible.

[paper jay]

Well i just fixed it somewhat, checked the lego batman section and forcedshadermodel set to 1

[minor hazel]

https://github.com/RemixProjGroup/camera-proxy/releases/tag/v0.3.0

(I may have left the old v0.2.0 experimental branch name tag in this version )

[maiden furnace]

SDC looks the same but slightly more better

just a tiny bit

[minor hazel]

It's a refinement over the base 0.2 version. Also some remix API based quirks

[formal linden]

what would be new for Prince of Persia?

[minor hazel]

Will work on that on the weekend as it requires game specific profile to be created

Especially the anti culling logic and wide-screen support

[formal linden]

wide screen would have to be done for PoP 1 and 2, and the anti culling for the 3 games

[minor hazel]

I don't have all of those games 😓

[formal linden]

[trim thunder]

Does "run with remix" mean run with the toolkit or the runtime? I'm not at all familiar of how Remix's API works.

[minor hazel]

If it's within the remixapi stuff then yeah that's the API

[minor hazel]

if anyone has problems with remix api not working or seeing "run with rtx remix" then you need to edit bridge.conf inside the .trex folder of remix and enable exposeRemixApi = True like so: https://github.com/RemixProjGroup/camera-proxy/blob/main/.trex/bridge.conf#L1

[trim thunder]

It gives a runtime error on startup when i do that.

[minor hazel]

can you show me logs for camera proxy and remix api

[minor hazel]

very odd. And this worked before on the old experimental build? This shouldn't happen

[19:34:40] remix_api::init() calling bridge_initRemixApi...
[19:34:40] result = 0
[19:34:40] CreateLight = 70B37490
[19:34:40] DestroyLight = 70B38780
[19:34:40] DrawLightInstance = 70B39040
[19:34:40] g_initialized = true

So the proxy does initialize remix API but fails elsewhere, might be better if remix runtime logs are shared as well

[trim thunder]

I hadn't tested the API stuff on that version

[minor hazel]

[19:34:45.664] info: No winproc detected, initiating bridge message channel for: 00000000000C0BF6

😓

i can't really pinpoint what might be causing this now

[sick mesa]

Js like dolphin

[minor hazel]

Does this happen with all of the games?

[minor hazel]

That was for x64 build

😵‍💫

[sick mesa]

It didnt happen with mgrr

[trim thunder]

Any other ideas of what could be done on my end to debug the runtime issues?

[minor hazel]

What have you tried so far to get rid of the issue?

[trim thunder]

I've done nothing so far besides look at the logs, and give them to you.

I've thought maybe installing another version of the Remix runtime would fix it, but i sort of doubt it.

[minor hazel]

oh well in that case you can try and change the runtime but i too doubt it's the correct way to address it

so far i have no clue as to why its crashing now

[trim thunder]

Which DXVK-Remix version did you test this on?

[minor hazel]

i don't test it on remix sorry, no RTX access

but maybe @sick mesa can fill you in, as most testing is done by them

[sick mesa]

Hi

[minor hazel]

@sick mesa we need lego LOTR tested for crashes

[sick mesa]

Unfortunately i tried this on dolphin which has the same issue (but on 64 bit) and it doesnt work

[sick mesa]

I dont have that

[trim thunder]

Never used RTX remix on the RTX remix server?

[dense arrow]

How's the Lego marvel games

[minor hazel]

i did but PC is unavailable now

[sick mesa]

Bad

[dense arrow]

Dang

[sick mesa]

Js like the Lego movie the video games

Yo

@minor hazel do you think the raster overlay code is casuing issues?

[dense arrow]

I bet undercover is bad too

[minor hazel]

might be, but its disabled by default

[sick mesa]

Cuz i tried mcsm and its also flopping

[minor hazel]

@trim thunder check in the end of camera_proxy.ini for rasterblend options if its enabled?

[dense arrow]

How do you find the right cam in this

[sick mesa]

Luck

If auto detect doesnt work

Luck

[dense arrow]

Ah

[sick mesa]

Or checking the decomp code

[minor hazel]

i need to learn how to mess with decomp, as you can edit the shader instruction in runtime

[dense arrow]

Can you use cheat engine to help find it

[sick mesa]

The tool has a built in decomp

[dense arrow]

Ok

[trim thunder]

It was enabled.

Setting to 0 still gives the issue.

[sick mesa]

Oof

[dense arrow]

Why not put the proxy in remix ui

[minor hazel]

i will try to fix the crashes, i wonder if its just with this game or others too

not counting dolphin because that was x64 version

[dense arrow]

Does this also detect missing geometry by cam

[minor hazel]

i think some games render fully when it comes to meshes, but that depends on remix to interpret Vertex shaders properly

[dense arrow]

No way to put an interpreter in the cam?

[minor hazel]

i haven't tried to do that, and im not sure if that could work

[dense arrow]

K

[minor hazel]

the premise of this tool is very simple, either the proxy can locate and latch onto correct data that can be sent to remix or you have to find it manually using the shaders/constants tab

[trim thunder]

Lego HP years 1-4 doesn't crash on startup

[dense arrow]

Can you test on the side?

[sick mesa]

How many rendertargets does it have

[trim thunder]

Where do i find that out? (please excuse me for my extreme stupidity (as i literally mentioned this when i suggested a render overlay) but it's 10am and i've yet to sleep)

[sick mesa]

Js check the texture tabs

[dense arrow]

I like how targets are like pointers. Reminds me of trying to make a cheat trainer

[sick mesa]

Ive noticed it has issues with games that have a rendertarget other than the main detected camera

Or thats my hunch anyways

[trim thunder]

11

[dense arrow]

This project is giving me motivation though. Thanks for making it

[sick mesa]

you shoul uhmmmm, make an opengl translator for wolfensteins sake /j

[dense arrow]

Actually I was trying to update the opengl to 4.6 in gl direct source but ai is being stupid

[trim thunder]

How do i fix Remix capture: missing in the raster overlay tab?

[dense arrow]

Directx 9 uses old vertex shader code. Tried updating it too

With sdk

Directx 9 is a name. It's code is where the problem is

[minor hazel]

can you SS the menu?

[dense arrow]

That's like trying to convert dx5 to using vertex shaders that 9 uses

[minor hazel]

that means the handle where API gets the final remix rendered frame cannot be detected, this raster overlay requires both game raster (normal) frame and the remix output frame for the compositor to work. afaik @sick mesa showed me quite a few images from minecraft story mode but all very pretty mid results tbh

[sick mesa]

yeah

[minor hazel]

Problem is we couldn't know for sure if remix capture was missing because the menu wouldn't open

For mcse

[sick mesa]

yeah

[trim thunder]

It seems that using an older version of the runtime (the version i used with HP) fixed the crash on startup issue with LOTR, however there isn't a remix capture for this game either.

[sick mesa]

which version

[minor hazel]

bailey we could use mgrr as a test bed for raster overlay testing

[sick mesa]

how so

what effects would even like

[trim thunder]

remix-1.3.6+eb34ad80

[minor hazel]

just to see if raster and remix captures are present, that's it

[sick mesa]

how would i find that

[minor hazel]

through the menu as shared in the bread bird SS

[sick mesa]

oh alright

lemme test it when i get home from work

[minor hazel]

please also test pipedream if you get the chance

🙏

[sick mesa]

ok

[trim thunder]

Could it be possible for you to make it to where you could inject manually through the hash maybe? This does look like one of the games frame buffers in the ray traced render target tab.

[minor hazel]

hmm, yes i can try that

give me a few tries i can get it to work like you asked

[minor hazel]

I do wonder where the blue and pink color are being picked from. Because only this demo properly sends the right data for the shader lights detection method

Shadows aren't moving either

[vernal charm]

Is this really the best the world has to offer...

I was expecting more

[sick mesa]

What

[vernal charm]

Don't what me, deliver

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Xo4alEJaxK9CJbUqThtbSK349mj_VGYZ

I am still trying to figure out why this is not reproduceable

[sick mesa]

Im whating you on what ypu mean the best this have to offer

[vernal charm]

Asides from my shitty instructions

[vernal charm]

This group has the most intimate knowledge that is, imo

[sick mesa]

Were all basically tredding new waters

Aside from maybe you?

[vernal charm]

Do you think I am interested in myself and my own findings?

[sick mesa]

Shrug

[vernal charm]

It is expected of you guys to supercede me.

I mean you are the experts

[sick mesa]

js a person who puts things into things and saves the world I am no expert9

Sorry man

[vernal charm]

Grammar is a thing you know

js a person

expert9

[sick mesa]

Jeez man its not that deep

[tired lichen]

I mean, I don't think any of us are experts when it comes to this sort of thing. I know I am just throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks.

[sick mesa]

Yeah

We think the person woth the most experience is xoxor but hes not working on this

[tired lichen]

Xoxor for sure is probably the most knowledgeable, although saintMath has been doing some rather impressive things as well.

[sick mesa]

This is true

Known from personal experience

They are 2 titans of their fields

Really appreciate saintmath too

[tired lichen]

He's a hero in my eyes just for KOTOR alone working, and I know he's helped you out quite a bit with RTCW as well.

Not to mention a decent few other projects as well.

[thorn hedge]

why are you being so aggressive and unpleasant? it's completely uncalled for

fwiw we greatly appreciate the base work you did to make this wrapper possible, but there has been a LOT of work done on top of it. cobalt has been working on it in all of his free time to get it to the state it's in. it's not okay to dismiss his work and it's not okay to be as rude as you are in this chat to others either

[trim thunder]

The built in matrix detection isn't the best imo, but i kinda expected it.

fme it's sometimes easy to just tag the matrices manually, as the comments can help alot to find them manually.

[trim thunder]

The overseer kinda sounded like an evil supervillain name.

[minor hazel]

Camera detection in its current state can almost accurately tag "only" separate World, View and Projection in its uncombined form. Whilst some matrices do fuck up the detection because those are related to weighted meshes or bone animation related system etc.

But if a game is using combined forms of matrices then it's near impossible to do automatic detection properly, even though I've tried setting up some methods. But they don't work as intended

[thorn hedge]

🤣 just noticed the typo

[sick mesa]

Lol

speaking of

is there anything in the works cobalt i should be at the ready for

[minor hazel]

im not interested in working on this anymore longer tbh

[sick mesa]

or are you on a sorta break

fair

[minor hazel]

i really wish i could support the developement but i'd rather not

[sick mesa]

shrug

you did really good for what was done so

im sure someone else will pick it up

[minor hazel]

the source code is well formatted now in the shaders branch, im sure anymore with better skills and free time can improve it.

[dense arrow]

did you make a list to give an idea what could be improved on github?

would be a nice merger though for remix but if it isnt getting no more dev i see no point

[minor hazel]

camera pos detection and MVP combined matrices decomposition would be ideal

[dense arrow]

i wonder if cr could do something with this since you're stepping away from it

they could combine it with thier fake cam logic

[minor hazel]

you can fork from the github and take a look at the project yourself. see what works for you

i am still very much interested in a universal UE3 remix compatibility mod

should be doable

[dense arrow]

that could be awesome

bummer i thought conan exiles was 3 but its 4.1.5

[vernal charm]

The real typo is me being in there

[vernal charm]

My apologies,

I did not mean to come forth this way.

I guess I just expected more.

The thing is that I did all of this while I was absolutely shitfaced. True story.

I very much expected you guys to supercede me in every form and manner.

There is some really crazy talent in here. In this forum.

[sick mesa]

doesnt even matter nobody is actively working on it anymore

[vernal charm]

On the camera proxy?

[sick mesa]

no

[sick mesa]

^

[vernal charm]

Oh. I defintely need to give that guy shit. Bro needs to continue the mission.

[sick mesa]

not at all

people arent required to do anything

[vernal charm]

So says you

You guys are all this world has when it comes to these matters. And now you are going to tell me the guy who did all of this and you guys included are just going to stop?

[sick mesa]

Yes actually

I am

Noone here is required to work on anything, period, full stop. If you think just because someone starts something that they are binded to said thing till its done just to have it function then I have a wake up call for you, this is a group of volunteers, not a paid job where there is a quota, burnout is a real thing, someone shouldn't have to do something if they dont enjoy doing said thing

Comma central

But whatever

[vernal charm]

I hear you on the burnout thing. I respect that.

So he quit

That does not mean the mission is dead

Not this project

[sick mesa]

Then why dont you pick it up

[vernal charm]

Just the whole thing in getting rtx to work with eevry game there

[vernal charm]

I would if someone will explain to me wtf happened since I last was here.

Like what is with the mood

[sick mesa]

Stress

Its caused by repeated failure

The issue at hand is that mvp never worked, and the world moved around the camera instead of view versa

[vernal charm]

I am just not understanding. I mean I hear you. I understand your words.

[sick mesa]

No matter what was tried it didnt work

As well as x64 games just not working at all

[tired lichen]

Ugh. That was an issue with what I am working on as well. Still is with half of the games I am testing.

[sick mesa]

Yeah

So a start would be the world moving around the camera

[sick mesa]

^

[vernal charm]

And for that reason you all made him depressed?

[sick mesa]

???

No

We didnt "make him depressed" man

[vernal charm]

So where is the pressure coming from?

[sick mesa]

His own accord

[vernal charm]

I see

[sick mesa]

The inability to fix it

[tired lichen]

I mean, keep in mind it is open source, so anyone can still step in and try to figure it out.

[sick mesa]

Yeah

[vernal charm]

Ok so back to just me thinking it is very possible.

[sick mesa]

i think it is too

i just

dont know how to do it

i am a tester

thats it

[vernal charm]

I will welcome your testing at some point in the future if you should desire to participate.

[sick mesa]

im always willing to

[vernal charm]

I am sorry for my hostility as you call it

I am just not thrilled my bro isnt here anymore

The reason I can do the things I do is because my day job is utterly ridiculous. I don't even know how to explain it. It is expected of me on a daily basis to just make things happen. My employers are ridiculous. No excuses. No pointing out things. Just make it happen.

[sick mesa]

ah

i feel ya

[vernal charm]

I believe you because if you are in here you sure aint having no normal job haha

[sick mesa]

i run 2 whole jobs to make things work lol

[vernal charm]

I don't even know what I am anymore. Everyday it is do this do that. When you can do things they make you do everything. I guess its the same for everyone in here.

[sick mesa]

yeeep

my only enjoyment is js being able to see things work

which is why i test

theres no enjoyment in making things work by ourselves so thats why we dont do stuff ourselves

[vernal charm]

I will give you access to my pc and my claude code in the next two weeks.

[vernal charm]

And so we live for other people. Making all their dreams come true.

[sick mesa]

yeah

[vernal charm]

I never claimed myself that there is an universal proxy for these things but what one can do is handle them one at a time.

[sick mesa]

right

[vernal charm]

The very basis on which these things started was that I was told by persons and deep research AI that this is very much impossible.

Impracical is a better word for it

[sick mesa]

yeah

imo the steps for this would probably be
mvp stuff and then the world stuff but maybe you have a better plan

[vernal charm]

Imo if you really want to make your time count identify the most commercial application of this thing.

[sick mesa]

the most commercial application would be dx11 games trust

[vernal charm]

Yes that makes a lot of sense but DX11.

Is that whats the standard

What we must aspire to

[sick mesa]

nah rn i think dx9 games is just the basis we want to aim for

[vernal charm]

Would be so nice if Nvidia would help us.

I know that they already have this tech. Instead they leave us out here to figure it out ourselves.

[sick mesa]

yeah

[cedar hazel]

I'd argue even if nvidia decided to chase after shader and dx11 support, it would once again have to be game specific given how many factors there are with working with shaders themselves

so tl;dr it would still be a monumental effort even with commercial support

the more viable approach (imo) is adding direct remix api support and intercepting any engine calls for geometry, materials, etc

it skips graphicss api stuff like dx11 or even dx12

[steady parcel]

it 100% would have to be

kinda like renodx

[cedar hazel]

yeah

[vernal charm]

What they will do is steal all the work we did.

And thats okay

[sick mesa]

^

[cedar hazel]

no? remix is open source

the only way they would commercialize it is if they had to NDA a specific version of it for a game they would release commercially

but i dont ever see that happening

[vernal charm]

Remix Api wouldnt work for my initial interest which was DX6. I would need to learn this.

[cedar hazel]

it works for anything regardless of API, but you have to RE an entire engine for it to be viable

not self plugging but its already been proved to be possible
#1446017925545857145 message

[vernal charm]

I once again resort to me saying they alreasy know how to do all these things they just dont care because it isnt worth their time.

[steady parcel]

do sometimes wish that nvidia kinda focused on the remix api stuff
feels like they're really tried to make things as accessible as possible which is great but to the detriment of stuff like the remix api

-# though I'm 100% talk out of my ass

[cedar hazel]

i've heard better api support is in the pipeline

dont remember who said it though

i have my own fork of remix for better API support for unity rtx for texture upload and stuff

[vernal charm]

Its easy to judge but if you had all the money in the world would you care? I would like to say I would but thats idealistic.

[vernal charm]

I really wish I saw that before I started my own thing. Oh well so we learn.

[steady parcel]

I'm mostly just talking out of my experience with renodx
granted renodx is mostly built around adding hdr to games but the tooling and community surround it is incredible

[vernal charm]

I never did take the time to compliment you on that. Some stand up work you did there.

Hats off

[sick mesa]

Rs

[cedar hazel]

MGRR remix api when

[sick mesa]

Please I need this

[cedar hazel]

i dont know the platinum engine at all 😭

[sick mesa]

Learn it thats an order /j

I mean mgrr has (partially) been decomped

[cedar hazel]

even if we had all of the resources like unity, it would probably run into the same pitfall of getting the smaller stuff working

like integrating the remix renderer into the original window, HUD elements, particles, etc

[vernal charm]

getting something working is one thing. Making it look good is a completely other matter. It is a lot of work.

[cedar hazel]

RE'ing engine stuff would be 90% of the work for the remix api

so getting it working via shaders would probably still be easier

[vernal charm]

Replacing light sources in a rasterized world is al lot of work

[sick mesa]

Mgrr is the end goal/dream for us

/wolf2009

[cedar hazel]

are yall still getting camera matrices from shaders or did yall find engine signatures/offsets? for mgrr

[sick mesa]

From shaders I think, some dude who mods mgrr told us the camera offsets

[cedar hazel]

👀

[sick mesa]

Registers

[cedar hazel]

what about vertex data

cuz if thats easily findable, remix api could be alot more possible than i thought

[sick mesa]

I belive its in the decomp but I dont know

[cedar hazel]

is there a github?

[sick mesa]

https://github.com/Jacky720/mgrr-multiplayer/blob/main/Camera.cpp

I think

[dense arrow]

glad someone is hopefully picking this project back up or am i wrong?

[vernal charm]

God forbid on the existing methods because if those amounted to anything it would have been done by now.

[cedar hazel]

not at the moment, im just interested in mgrr

[vernal charm]

I do wonder what happens when you give someone as obsessive as you on that thing your treat.

Like would you just go on and pursue the nex thing that intrigues you or would you consider putting that obsession into something else?

[cedar hazel]

i think the point was already made here, we choose what to work on when we want

I said i was interested in it, didnt say i'd start working on it

[vernal charm]

If it is a possibility you would start working on it right now dont lie

[cedar hazel]

no because i already maintain a massive project and i'd prefer to be working on that for a sufficient amount of time so i dont burn out working on others

i'd appreciate you stop criticizing others on what they work on. If you're unhappy, make the change yourself

pretty much every project here is open so nothing stops you from making a fork

[vernal charm]

I don't do forks I make my own

[sick mesa]

How much more possible? Is it something like unity rtx or moreso like something xoxor would do (by that I mean a direct modification or a workaround)

[vernal charm]

But anyways no disrespect meant

[cedar hazel]

it would probably better to do it with xoxor4d's compat mod base since the game is already dx9

[sick mesa]

Would be cool to see but do be aware I was told not everything inside that decomp is complete, just the important stuff

[cedar hazel]

to get started it would be the two things i mentioned, camera stuff and geometry

if i get around to it, ill see if it has the latter

[sick mesa]

aye aye

not beggin ya to do this either, hope im not like sounding like im pleading for my life here

[cedar hazel]

nah you're fine, wasnt getting that vibe at all lol

[thorn hedge]

i appreciate that you don't intend disrespect but the things you've said are pretty upsetting to read. these people put months (in some cases years) of work into these projects, and as soon as they stop they're being pushed and pushed to continue as if it's wrong to stop at all

please 🙏 try to get out of that mindset and stop pushing it because it's not okay

[sick mesa]

Cr I lied theres also this https://github.com/Aura39/Rising-ShaderDecomp/blob/main/shader_dat/ps/deferredspotlight.fx

Well

Thats the decomp I mean

[cedar hazel]

sweet

[steady parcel]

looks like they just ran it through a decompiler

still helpful though

[vernal charm]

Figured it out just needed to spend some time going through it all will upload a proper guide soon.

[steady parcel]

@quick scroll ?

[exotic lance]

Has anyone tried STALKER:GAMMA?

It was incompatible a few years ago but perhaps this unlocks it?

[urban nest]

Stalker anomaly should be a better candidate

[exotic lance]

id settle for that

[exotic lance]

have you tried marked one?

[urban nest]

We did, the old alpha builds work the best

The trilogy has very broken visuals

Anomaly didn't hook at all

But then we got around to fix it but still very broken

As broken as the trilogy

#showcase message

@exotic lance

Check this out

[turbid burrow]

is there any 64 bit build of this?

[atomic plaza]

everything inside .trex is 64 can be dropped into the game folder and it'll work

Though you might havev issues with inputs

[turbid burrow]

im asking for proxy btw

[atomic plaza]

same deal

everything inside the .trex folder is the actual remix

The dll outside is just the bridge used to translate 32 to 64

So if you drop trex directly into the game folder, it'll use the 64 dll

[sick mesa]

no

the proxy doesnt work well with 64 bit games

[midnight jewel]

Well this is A bit out of date but it works for x64 Games

https://github.com/Digitalgaming1/camera-proxy-X64

[sick mesa]

a

[thorny wind]

idk why, but now every time i open the camera proxy menu everything becomes black

[thorny wind]

got it working