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#(WIP) UnityRTX
young wolf
What stuff do you plan on doing for unity
onyx apex
fixing missing geometry in most of the games tested so far is the top priority
young wolf
Do you think it could get to a point of workable replacements
onyx apex
replacements already work for what currently renders
autumn holly
smiles sneatly
onyx apex
replacements already work for what currently renders
some really good stuff here
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autumn holly
wish i could still test i gotta wait like 16 hrs to get my pc back
autumn holly
thats missing geometry
steel swan
@onyx apex I'm trying to download but for some reason its saying its gonna take 2 hours. I have great internet. what could be causing that?
onyx apex
github CDN being crap
it happens to me too
try downloading on mobile data, that worked for me
steel swan
@onyx apex question, it says copy unityremix.dll to bepinex/plugins. That file is already in that folder. Is that a typo?
onyx apex
no, that is if you're manually compiling the plugin, the first part of the instructions say to just extract the contents of the archive to your game
steel swan
Oh shit. I missed that lol my bad
@onyx apex does it need to be the files in a folder within the game folder? Or just all the files in the game folder?
Also, do i need to have the remix files in there too like the trex folder and stuff?
steel swan
Also this download doesnt contain the config file in the bepinex folder. It just has core and plugins
onyx apex
Also this download doesnt contain the config file in the bepinex folder. It jus...
the config is auto generated when you run the game
onyx apex
<@326199486550376451> does it need to be the files in a folder within the game f...
yes you need to extract it to the game root
steel swan
yes you need to extract it to the game root
Gotcha. I cant get it to work on the game im trying. But ill try some other games.
steel swan
@onyx apex and this doesnt work for il2cpp correct?
worn swan
<@326199486550376451> and this doesnt work for il2cpp correct?
no
monobleeding edge right as now
old mono and that wont work unless he decides to do it
but expect some bugs
round berry
melonloader il2cpp when
steel swan
How doable is it to make something like this but for unreal?
lament ice
Lmao
lament ice
did you lose access to your old account?
No, long story
Blah blah blah for my own mentality as a whole I switched accounts n such, leaving out toxic ppl
N such
atomic thorn
King shi
lament ice
so like is the ultrakill railguns emissives controlled via the ui? or
cuz i cant find it in the decomp textures
nvm i got it
lament ice
this is odd
worn swan
this is odd
looks bright
lament ice
yeah my emissive mask wrapped wrong
onyx apex
time to start working on this again
lament ice
i think geo support is next
split loom
🇮 🇱 2️⃣ 🇨 🇵 🅿️
quaint grail
maybe improving base functionality first is more important than expanding compatibility and probably makes more sense 
atomic thorn
If this guy speaks again I'm gonna lose it
onyx apex
maybe improving base functionality first is more important than expanding compat...
geo is the priority, there are more uncertainties trying to get the mod running on other bases
atomic thorn
il2cpp melonlloader is coming
🔥
lament ice
jessica istg if i hear "ilcpp melonloader" i may throw you into into a pit
onyx apex
yes
round berry
i was going to make a joke about "oh support for [first unity version] but i got distracted by unity apparently originally being a macos game engine
this explains
topaz knoll
If this guy speaks again I'm gonna lose it
gasp*
topaz knoll
i was going to make a joke about "oh support for [first unity version] but i got...
2.0.0 had support for windows
onyx apex
time to start making a test game with gpu instancing enabled so i can use the unity profiler :3
lament ice
time to start making a test game with gpu instancing enabled so i can use the un...
Oooooh
lament ice
Sob
onyx apex
ah that was material instancing i think, i think Graphics.DrawMeshInstanced() is what i need to use
fingers crossed
YAY
time to get this shit working 
lament ice
Helllll yeah
onyx apex
ty harmony patches
time see how ultrakill 2025 responds to this 👁️
bruh
guess im still missing something
oh thats why
this is unity 2022 tho so its probably a bit different, my test project was unity 2019
onyx apex
so ultrakill isnt using gpu instancing but static batching which will require a lot more work
lament ice
so ultrakill isnt using gpu instancing but static batching which will require a ...
Whats the difference
onyx apex
both are the same except static batching bakes mesh transforms it into the unity scene so i currently dont have a way to get unique transforms at all
ultrakill technically renders everything but just the 1st instance of each object, hence why most of the map is missing
looks like the instancing stuff worked for risk of rain 2
was going to send a vid with that message but in classic amd fashion i had a unrecoverable driver crash yippee
onyx apex
if anything, more renders in remix than the normal game except one of the shop thingys
not sure why vegetation was missing in the unity view
lament ice
ultrakill technically renders everything but just the 1st instance of each objec...
So is there no way to make unity meshes seperate the instances?
onyx apex
i tried with harmony patches but it cant catch them early enough
lament ice
Harmony pacthes?
onyx apex
ye think of it as a engine patch to change its behavior
im trying to make it skip the static batching and submit each mesh transform to the CPU
onyx apex
i think its just a lot deeper than what i can get access to, but i have no idea if what ultrakill is doing is a normal unity feature
time to see if atlyss improves
ik a lot of stuff was missing
lament ice
Yeah mostly the props
lament ice
Also sorta side thing but do you think you'll be able to use your project to see how skies are rendered
onyx apex
yeah that and directional lights were next on my to-do list
im gonna install the 2022 editor rq and re-create my 2019 test scene and see if that engine version does something fundamentally different
atomic thorn
Did he do it?
lament ice
Not yet
onyx apex
2019+ uses monobleedingedge
if a game is using standard mono then i have no idea how, its not the default
onyx apex
im gonna install the 2022 editor rq and re-create my 2019 test scene and see if ...
unfortunately it still works in 2022 so i have no clue what atlyss and UK are doing 🥀
time to decompile atlyss
looks like UK and atlyss use SRP, the newer rendering backend in 2022, at least from what i can tell in ilspy
im gonna keep poking around and see if i can find anything promising
looks like DrawMeshInstancedIndirect is the culprit? most of the render calls go through this and it's entirely GPU-based
i would have to intercept these calls and try to read them back into a way that can be sent to remix
even if i get that working i think it would kill performance lmao
lament ice
Just recompile the game without DrawMeshInstanceIndirect 🤓
I mean
What if instead of making it translate to remix, what if you make it to where it does run on a seperate instance that remix could pick up, or is thay basically the same thing
onyx apex
the issue is that the plugin itself is only sending what it can see, so its not a remix issue
i think for ultrakill's static batching, since we do get all of the required meshes for rendering, we could get the plugin to do the instancing provided i can actually get a list of what's supposed to be where
thats my naive way of thinking at least
atomic thorn
I don't see why that couldn't work
onyx apex
cybergrind has geo now
maybe other levels too
i found where unity stores unique meshes before it combines and discards them
issue is that it also brings back a lot of other meshes that are supposed to be hidden but ill see if i can get that sorted
ok yeah level geo still getting combined and discarded
onyx apex
yeah question mark because i still need to find a way to make it preserve discarded meshes
lament ice
You got this
onyx apex
im calling it a night for now, learned a lot but still got a ways to go
topaz knoll
merry christmas
lament ice
Merry Christmas
onyx apex
merry christmas
mighty haven
Did anyone tested V Rising? It is on unity
worn swan
Did anyone tested V Rising? It is on unity
seems researching it might work
but there's still geometry issues
and stuff
hopefully soon
lament ice
onyx apex
lament ice
Unity rtx when
atomic thorn
hons
round berry
melonloader il2cpp vr stress level zero marrow support when
young wolf
melonloader il2cpp vr stress level zero marrow support when
What’s stopping this mod from not working in boneworks again?
round berry
primarily i think it's because boneworks/lab uses il2cpp
modding is also generally done using melonloader and i wouldn't trust the bepinex plugin to work well
** ** also i'd be surprised if remix was capable of rendering for vr in the first place
young wolf
** ** also i'd be surprised if remix was capable of rendering for vr in the fir...
And people said the earth was flat because they refused to discover
young wolf
are there any vr unity mono games this could be tested with
Only unity games I can think of is the vertigo game series
Took me way to long to remember their names
lament ice
@onyx apex do you think that modifications you did with the geometry fixed white knuckle at all?
lament ice
ah that was material instancing i think, i think `Graphics.DrawMeshInstanced()` ...
^ this stuff
lament ice
young wolf
@round berry the goated vr game uses mono
also i will ask @onyx apex pls take it slow cause ur working on this and gmod rtx and the perf fork which is def like a lot
young wolf
<@247428037480546304> the goated vr game uses mono
sadly doesn't work 💔
young wolf
https://tenor.com/view/sea-lion-sped-up-silly-goober-sea-gif-1807503861489774979
I wonder what makes some mono games work and others not work
lament ice
<@247428037480546304> the goated vr game uses mono
Ive hear of that
steel swan
I wonder what makes some mono games work and others not work
@onyx apex any idea of why this happens? If also had a few games that, on paper, should work with this. But they end up not evem registering the plugin at all.
onyx apex
if the game doesn't have a monobleedingedge folder in its root directory, it's most likely using il2cpp which the wrapper doesn't currently support
topaz knoll
if the game doesn't have a monobleedingedge folder in its root directory, it's m...
or its a 2018 - 3x game
worn swan
We get half life 3 before il2cpp support lol jk
lament ice
We get half life 3 before il2cpp support lol jk
yeah.. considering geometry is a first...
onyx apex
idk i think il2cpp might be easier at this rate lol
the ultrakill stuff from the other week about put me in my grave, i should change my priorities for the time being
i would like to make some progress into getting another release out
but i also want to avoid burnout
lament ice
yeah
fair i gues
altho i would assume mono would be easier to go for since its close (?) to bleedingedge
idk
onyx apex
i need to find a game i own that uses a different mono, the one's I've tested so far (even my custom game) use monobleedingedge
i know i own a few il2cpp games so i think those would be easier to get into
split loom
Sounds like a plan to me 
topaz knoll
i need to find a game i own that uses a different mono, the one's I've tested so...
all you need to do is find unity 2017 or old 2018 games
worn swan
Some old unity games from itch io have some mono games
pure rune
all you need to do is find unity 2017 or old 2018 games
distance is Unity 2017, and it works via Extended shader build (also has a dx9 mode)
though it is very unstable in the graphics departement
worn swan
I know, I know. But have you tried to use ai to get an idea on how to implement support for the other unity stuff cr?
sullen rune
And people said the earth was flat because they refused to discover
I discovered a Steam Deck was capable of Pathtracing
And they all called me insane
young wolf
I discovered a Steam Deck was capable of Pathtracing
And they all called me insa...
Barley
young wolf
30fps is fine with me
While looking like that
sullen rune
While looking like that
Like what?
young wolf
Nvm idk what that bro did cause this looks a lot better https://youtu.be/aKZeGhgg3lY?si=MvKjmZVcpaZnSLj1
sullen rune
Not even my video that one, lol and it was the first ever version
sullen rune
Nvm idk what that bro did cause this looks a lot better https://youtu.be/aKZeGhg...
That was recorded on a RX 7600
But the last version of the Steam Deck mod did get a resolution bump and FSR 3.1 Upscaling which looked much better over TAA-U
young wolf
That was recorded on a RX 7600
But the last version of the Steam Deck mod did ge...
Heart broken
young wolf
That was recorded on a RX 7600
But the last version of the Steam Deck mod did ge...
I wanna ask what projects/stuff do u currently have planned in the future for rtx remix?
sullen rune
I wanna ask what projects/stuff do u currently have planned in the future for rt...
AMD Anti-Lag
Attempting to get MCPG fully working
Portal 2 with RTX
continued Steam Publishing Initiative support
that's about it right now, AMD mod won't see many updates other than XeSS and Steam Deck mod was completely broken by Remix so I'm discouraged from even working on more Steam Deck/handheld stuff
I do want to look into more technologies but I won't do that till I at least get Anti-Lag merged, it just needs some polish like a GUI in the non dev menu
young wolf
AMD Anti-Lag
Attempting to get MCPG fully working
Portal 2 with RTX
continued St...
What broke in the steam deck mod btw?
young wolf
I do want to look into more technologies but I won't do that till I at least get...
I just hope someone makes additions/improvements to remix to give it the capability of similar performance to quake 2 rtx even if it looks worse than normal remix when using those new settings
sullen rune
What broke in the steam deck mod btw?
CPU started clocking higher and using more TDP which starved the GPU
and for awhile the bridge was broken too, crashing so I couldn't work on things like Half-Life 2 RTX
I'd have to check if that's still happening
the best thing could be a modified 0.5.1 runtime but for Portal 2 RTX that won't work and I want to get that Steam Deck verified
which, Mesa drivers are also having problems in (Graphical glitches)
Though we have a RADV coder working with us
sullen rune
Honestly, we're lucky to have contact with RADV and AMD because if we run into any driver problems, we can report it to them directly
young wolf
the best thing could be a modified 0.5.1 runtime but for Portal 2 RTX that won't...
Ya I think for that to get steam deck verified it needs to be on like the same performance/visuals of quake 2 rtx on steam deck u feel me?
sullen rune
Ya I think for that to get steam deck verified it needs to be on like the same p...
well Valve has very low requirements (no performance requirements) but I want it to at least be a solid 30fps most of the game
young wolf
well Valve has very low requirements (no performance requirements) but I want it...
I still hope quake 2 rtx is a baseline for performance/visuals
It does look a lot better on steam deck compared to portal rtx
With stuff like mcpg, messing with background settings and other optimizations from future remix updates I hope it leads to that 30 fps with acceptable visuals
I’m very excited to see what u do to try get it working on steam deck
Like this
sullen rune
Let me try those
I didn’t see the triangle culling and merge all meshes
onyx apex
il2cpp time 
split loom
Let's friggen go right now 
lament ice
il2cpp time <:tux_dawg:1381989261481480242>
Yay
Uhhh
What games even use iclpp again that are popular
Might I ask
All my games use mono or bleeding esge
onyx apex
disco elysium is one of the ones i want to try
also No, I'm not a Human
and a few others like the bonelab/boneworks games
onyx apex
<@326199486550376451> do you think that modifications you did with the geometry ...
oops i missed this
i should check
lament ice
:p
onyx apex
1st part done, migrate to bepinex 6.x so we get il2cpp support, thank goodness there was no breaking changes compared to 5X
time to test white knucle rq but then ill move onto actually trying to get the harmony patches and hooks to work on il2cpp methods
(will probably be pain)
onyx apex
time to test white knucle rq but then ill move onto actually trying to get the h...
still nothing
split loom
All the stuff I wanted to try is il2cpp rofl
All Katamaris, Megabonk
Outer Wilds (although I'm not hopeful on remixing this one because the geo is probably hella complicated)
I have hopes for Katamari cause it's simple
sullen rune
still nothing
Does Buckshot roulette work? 
onyx apex
Outer Wilds (although I'm not hopeful on remixing this one because the geo is pr...
its kinda random, if the game is poor with optimization (doesnt do any mesh batching or instancing, it will probably work well lol)
sullen rune
Does Buckshot roulette work? <:PrayGrovyle:669500465830035456>
Oh wait, it’s Vulkan
Fuck
onyx apex
its kinda random, if the game is poor with optimization (doesnt do any mesh batc...
peak is like that and its a unity 6 game
onyx apex
Oh wait, it’s Vulkan
Fuck
API doesnt matter
onyx apex
the wrapper purely communicates over the remix api, so there is no d3d9 involved at all
well other than making the actual window but that still doesnt really count
sullen rune
the wrapper purely communicates over the remix api, so there is no d3d9 involved...
I restate my previous statement
Does buckshot roulette work?
onyx apex
i own it but lemme see what runtime it uses
doesnt appear to be unity?
file structure is nothing like a unity game
lmao its godot
onyx apex
i mean godot would probably work provided you made a fork that works with remix by using the API or modifying remix itself
(unity wrapper uses the remix API but its modified)
sullen rune
i mean godot would probably work provided you made a fork that works with remix ...
It is all Open sourced
onyx apex
ye
lament ice
still nothing
NOOOOOO
onyx apex
yeah uhh this is gonna be a lot of work for il2cpp...
its nowhere as easy as mono (c#)
topaz knoll
old mono game support 💪
lament ice
its nowhere as easy as mono (c#)
I mean if anything bendy is a mono game so,,,,,
topaz knoll
grabby 😭
lament ice
Fuck my speech to text
topaz knoll
Grabby does NOT need remix imo ive said tbis b4
Bejiu mike would say otherwise lol
topaz knoll
onyx apex
(to run into a unfixable issue )
onyx apex
i wanna say there is a 70/30 chance il2cpp will not work because its all custom cpp code which means it would at least have to be per-game
but im hoping there is something common to hook onto
i genuinely have no idea because this is very much uncharted territory for me
topaz knoll
well bepinx does have a wiki
onyx apex
ye
topaz knoll
interesting stuff
lament ice
onyx apex
lament ice
You cannot ragebait me.png
onyx apex
wow i have wasted about an hour of my life
no im not a human just crashes if bepinex is installed, even without my plugin
ffs
its unity 6 which is a little new
ill try something older
onyx apex
ill pick it up, only $8
topaz knoll
❤️
onyx apex
yeah 2022 seems to be safe
old school rally (a game i already had installed) seems to not crash
still gotta fix up the plugin but at least i have a lead
topaz knoll
btw take as much time as you need for v0.2
onyx apex
dont have update hooks yet BUT WE HAVE A WINDOW LETS GOOO
lament ice
dont have update hooks yet BUT WE HAVE A WINDOW LETS GOOO
Hrll yeah
onyx apex
camera data working, still no geo yet. I will probably have to decompile this game and find the method it uses
lament ice
lament ice
lament ice
Something!
onyx apex
oh apparently golf with your friends is also il2cpp
time to see if other games run (i highly doubt it)
injects, plugin loads with no errors, doesnt ever hit any hooks
rip
ANNO seems to work
common theme is that the camera is static so some update hooks still arent firing but wow i didnt think i'd get this far in one night
holy shit umasume is il2cpp 👁️
horse girl game rtx
ok nvm this game doesnt like bepinex
sons of the forest time
crashes while remix tries to generate shaders
worn swan
Can you try Darkeinstein 3D?
onyx apex
injects, remix window shows, but it doesnt catch any render hooks
worn swan
Ah
onyx apex
like i said before, this will probably happen for most games until i start decompiling and building up a pattern list or something
worn swan
Yea. Darkeinstein is new
onyx apex
nah its a little worse than that, it cant find a common method to identify meshes so nothing renders at all. The mono stuff is a different issue altogether
im sure once i get il2cpp more fleshed out it will run into the same issues as mono
worn swan
I don't know why camera popped into mind
onyx apex
?
onyx apex
no, this isnt a camera issue
worn swan
Ok
onyx apex
there is literally nothing for remix to render because the plugin cant find anything to interpret
onyx apex
at some later point maybe, i'm only interested in supporting modern unity games at the moment
or rather anything bepinex can touch
worn swan
Isn't granny one of the newer games
onyx apex
never heard of it
onyx apex
disco elysium hooks but no geo 🥀
one of the games i really wanted to work. oh well i can resume decompiling games tomorrow
worn swan
Itch io has a bunch of the later games
onyx apex
i think im gonna stick to testing the games i currently have for rn, it will be like mono where as i fix most of the il2cpp games i own, most of the rest (should) work. then ill release it for y'all to try (probably wont be a 0.2.0 release tho)
worn swan
Hmm. Phasmophobia is made in unity
split loom
i think im gonna stick to testing the games i currently have for rn, it will be ...
May I interest you in a We Love Katamari key 
young wolf
Let me try those
I didn’t see the triangle culling and merge all meshes
How well did it work?
atomic thorn
Wait so mono is working? I haven't been on the internet much the past few days
onyx apex
initial il2cpp support
normal mono is most likely just older unity versions which may not be something i support
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young wolf
beautiful
spring peak
Yall are legends fr
light bronze
please test babbdi!!
light bronze
is there a way to fix it?
worn swan
Probably capture scene and swap the cam in toolkit. Not sure
light bronze
Probably capture scene and swap the cam in toolkit. Not sure
capturing the scene it shows that there's only 3 textures, and it doesn't load at all in toolkit
worn swan
any news i just got my pc running again
lament ice
Nothing new yet
worn swan
ah
onyx apex
not really, any places that need serious improvements take a lot of time to add, so progress is being made but slowly
not to mention i have to tend to other projects
if there are any interesting developments they will be posted here
lament ice
Yipee yay
topaz knoll
how to make old unity games compatible for this wrapper!
-
decompile the game
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change the version of the game in unity hub (that the wrapper supports)
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fix all compile errors until its a playable version port
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recompile then put the wrapper in your recompiled game folder
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and that should be you :P
if its IL2CPP you cannot decomp it to be mono as scripts cannot be decomped.
unless you recreate them
young wolf
how to make old unity games compatible for this wrapper!
1. decompile the game
...
this is actually nice tho thx
topaz knoll
np
topaz knoll
how to make old unity games compatible for this wrapper!
1. decompile the game
...
links
Decompiler: https://github.com/AssetRipper/AssetRipper
Unity Hub: https://unity.com/developer-tools
Wrapper: https://github.com/sambow23/UnityRTX
onyx apex
man why havent i heard of assetripper
midnight forum
onyx apex
🙁
ah this clears stuff up on why its so hard to get static level data rendering correctly
young wolf
man why havent i heard of assetripper
Getting flashbacks rn
onyx apex
huh
worn swan
well this games gonna take a bit with the ripper
worn swan
well its importing. security alert with that version but it does not have support anymore prob why
maybe i shouldnt have opened a 15 gb game
lol
worn swan
well it opened in unity version 2019 but i built it and it didnt build or export the built files when rebuilt on x86 32 bit mode
game was darkenstein 3D
i think at some point ill get the premium version for 10 a month
has more options
be careful exporting because after i exported from a 15gb game it came out to be 38gb
midnight forum
Ravenfield might have a chance since it got older versions from 2018
topaz knoll
i decompiled a 3.0.0 game and recompiled it in 6000.3.3f1
going to try the wrapper on it
worn swan
i decompiled a 3.0.0 game and recompiled it in 6000.3.3f1
depends what you install with unity hub. you can install archived versions
topaz knoll
nvm there's some bugs with recompile
topaz knoll
depends what you install with unity hub. you can install archived versions
doesn't goto 4x - 2x
worn swan
doesn't goto 4x - 2x
https://discussions.unity.com/t/early-unity-versions-downloads/927331 only to 3 but here
lament ice
i decompiled a 3.0.0 game and recompiled it in 6000.3.3f1
Can you try batim
topaz knoll
Can you try batim
old or new
lament ice
old or new
Steam version of bendy and the ink machine
topaz knoll
is possible but would be very hard
(unrelated but you can decompile any Godot game and there will be no errors, just full game)
lament ice
is possible but would be very hard
id love to see it in monobleedingedge
oh well tho
tryna remember how to install this thing
this wording annoys me so
onyx apex
guh what should change
onyx apex
those instructions are if you are installing stuff manually but yeah i can improve it
lament ice
yea its nothing wrong with the instructions itself
js that the sentance goes on and on with no breaks in the steps
something more like
"place all the dlls inside the .trex folder, which is located inside the remix archive in the root folder of the game (next to the exe) this may be longer of a sentance but its more clear to me at least?
can raft js not work with bepinex?
onyx apex
`"place all the dlls inside the .trex folder, which is located inside the remix ...
that makes less sense to me, it should be
in the remix archive, there is a .trex folder which has the remix runtime files, extract these to the root folder of your unity game
lament ice
onyx apex
<a:Pleading_Monk:1375478620956397600>
i see monobleedingedge 🙂
lament ice
bepinex wont launch tho
onyx apex
guh
lament ice
and theres no thunderstore mod for it
kinda weird
maybe its like pixel gun and whatnot?
or maybe it uses the other renderer type and wont work
onyx apex
renderer doesnt matter
lament ice
right i forgot
onyx apex
is there a bepinex log file at all?
lament ice
lemme check
onyx apex
wait
make sure you have file extensions enabled on windows 💀
it has a notepad icon lmao
lament ice
it is enabled,i js accidentally opened dll with notepad always on
i dont see a log file for it
onyx apex
hmm its not injecting at all then
lament ice
yeah
onyx apex
maybe it has anti-modding measures?
onyx apex
guh
onyx apex
looks to be closed source?
lament ice
fuck 🗣️
what a shame, i think itd be a great remix mod but its also not worth it
earthmover
uhm
worn swan
Looks like quake
lament ice
True
winged solar
how to make old unity games compatible for this wrapper!
1. decompile the game
...
gee
smart guy
fix all compile errors
when theres like 99099090909 of them
lament ice
What if..... cr made and auto compiler to monobleeding edge
@onyx apex get on this /jilly
onyx apex
onyx apex
i think im gonna focus on il2cpp for now 
lament ice
What even is the full thing of that
Ik the cpp
But not the il2
I love 2 c plus plus (said noone)
onyx apex
idek
lament ice
new atlyss update
lament ice
@onyx apex can you accept my fr so i can dm you a quadtion abt this
onyx apex
yuh
lament ice
shes normal
spring peak
no way atlyss
atomic thorn
boob rabbit
lucid silo
Wow
lament ice
Ooo
worn swan
with logic being out wouldnt the unity wrapper need updated?
onyx apex
it can be but the project is still in such an early state, logic wouldnt bring much to the table
lament ice
Just a reminder,,,, postal 2 redux will be in unity
pure rune
Has someone got this to work on monoedge unity 2017? Distance has a thingy that if i mark it as UI it unflips the view, but if i mark it as sky or ignore rtw works but upside down with some other different graphics issue. I dont know if it is the sky or what im grabbing. since remix interactivity is upside down (ala if my mouse is near the bottom the interaction is near the top)
upside down is marked as sky, right side up is when marked as UI (THIS IS NOT WITH THE WRAPPER MOD)
The game has bepinEX already setup (hence why you see custom car in the game)
light bronze
cr should add this to r2modman (just saying)
(well actually it's just thunderstore mods)
cause i know you can enable bepinex automatically with it
on a lot of games
pure rune
cr should add this to r2modman (just saying)
he'd have to add this to every game seperately
right?
And if it actually did apply to all games, wouldnt it appear for games that dont work with it (like Distance for example)?
light bronze
he'd have to add this to every game seperately
hmm idk probably
but only a few games work anyway
pure rune
but only a few games work anyway
Has he ever got MonoBleedingEdge titles to work?
light bronze
Has someone got this to work on monoedge unity 2017? Distance has a thingy that ...
i mean this seems promising
at least it hooks?
idk i haven't tested many games
onyx apex
Has he ever got MonoBleedingEdge titles to work?
monobleedingedge is what hooks, old mono does not
pure rune
at least it hooks?
yeah it still needs correction
pure rune
monobleedingedge is what hooks, old mono does not
luckily the game itself hooks without the wrapper
it just needs the world correction
hmm I gotta see if it is using the fake camera
pure rune
monobleedingedge is what hooks, old mono does not
is it possible to get a version of the wrapper that only flips the world?
maybe as an asi
onyx apex
its a unity coordinate space issue, i thought i added a fix for that in the shader runtime
but no i cant just export that one thing, the unity wrapper is something entirely different
pure rune
its a unity coordinate space issue, i thought i added a fix for that in the shad...
the game i need it for doesnt work with that wrapper. I hooks without it, using your extended shader build
I did post about it in that game's modding channel on the official discord so hopefully someone comes around
lament ice
1st part done, migrate to bepinex 6.x so we get il2cpp support, thank goodness t...
is there a bepinex 6 launcher already?
worn swan
onyx apex
@worn swan #1446017925545857145 message
worn swan
<@275010889462054912> https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/144601792...
thats cool
lament ice
still need pixel gun 3d with rtx (not hapening cuz no bepinex support)
actually what about this unity game
trust me itll work
well technically it would work sorta
onyx apex
i have this game on my wishlist
onyx apex
still need pixel gun 3d with rtx (not hapening cuz no bepinex support)
i should push my existing wip bepinex changes 
i had like 2 games working but a lot of stuff was fucked up
lament ice
i should push my existing wip bepinex changes <:Thonk:356834638720794634>
whatd you change
onyx apex
nothing since last time
#1446017925545857145 message
onyx apex
normals kinda worked but were fuckywucky
lament ice
ah
onyx apex
yeah lol
lament ice
ah lmao
playing through tdr still shocked me at how full and complete it was
gives me hope for the ink machine
dusky apex
god i wish there was same stuff for unity 3😭🥀
lament ice
god i wish there was same stuff for unity 3😭🥀
what games are on unity 3
dusky apex
some old shit
imagine
rtx unity 3 horrors
this ugly ahh dumbest bullshit
but with fancy lighting
lament ice
Shrug
lament ice
What game is that
dusky apex
just to play on this map
lament ice
Thats js counter strike
lament ice
Ah
dusky apex
im lost so many time playing survival
onyx apex
nah Im just want this fucking bullshit to work damn normally 😭
what in the hell
lament ice
Wonder if rust will ever work
dusky apex
what in the hell
its unity 3 so don't worry
textures just
refuses to display
they're exist, hashes are stable
everything fucking works perfectly
except textures
lament ice
Damn
atomic thorn
Damn
Just a reminder that you never know your soul until it's been burdened by weight beyond its factory setting.
lament ice
Just a reminder that you never know your soul until it's been burdened by weight...
im sorry
but what
atomic thorn
Keep that in mind
lament ice
??????????
light bronze
probably a song
onyx apex
naw that's something else
lament ice
dang
lament ice
[Error :Unity RTX Remix] Failed to load Remix API: REMIXAPI_ERROR_CODE_LOAD_LIBRARY_FAILURE
Its ultra over
dusky apex
its ultra win
onyx apex
Its ultra over
did you change the runtime unity rtx ships with
lament ice
did you change the runtime unity rtx ships with
I dunno
Maybe im stupid and installed it like a dumbass (its been a bit) but I just did remix then put the stuff inside .trex
topaz knoll
i found out that geometry depends on the sharedassets
if map geometry are on sharedassets0 they will mostly show up, if they are on a different sharedassets file, it will mostly not work.
heres some screenshots of rtx remix only rendering sharedassets0, the games pov, and just sharedassets0 being rendered.
this also goes for assets that arent shown in-game like unchecked objects.
onyx apex
topaz knoll
when sharedassets0 is deleted, almost 0 assets are there
lament ice
this also goes for assets that arent shown in-game like unchecked objects.
Do you think wede be able to make it force everything onto shaderasset0 then cr?
topaz knoll
there might be a way to use bepinx for that
worn swan
Do you think wede be able to make it force everything onto shaderasset0 then cr?
have you tried this yet
lament ice
have you tried this yet
Idk how to do that
lament ice
there might be a way to use bepinx for that
I guess i should ask, would you know how to do it or is that out of your league
topaz knoll
I guess i should ask, would you know how to do it or is that out of your league
out of my league for now
lament ice
Damn
onyx apex
Do you think wede be able to make it force everything onto shaderasset0 then cr?
the plugin currently just intercepts whatever draws are being sent from the CPU to the GPU, so im wondering if moving everything into shaderasset0 is bypassing something
ill need to look into it more
onyx apex
what i really need to do if figure out how to parse level data so i can just draw that independently of CPU-instanced meshes
i really want ultrakill working properly yall
🥀
worn swan
https://github.com/AssetRipper/AssetRipper can rip it but the import above cost
lament ice
what i really need to do if figure out how to parse level data so i can just dra...
I didnt know it was cpu to gpu
I guess i js never really thought abt how it was done
worn swan
when i install unity the right way from the hub linux seems to be mono but windows is not?
lament ice
@onyx apex is ultrakill 32 or 64
onyx apex
64
lament ice
oh
so wait do i out everything by the exe then or where do i put the rtx portion of the files
onyx apex
rtx files go in the root game dir
onyx apex
are u changing the remix build?
lament ice
wym
onyx apex
idk, i was assumung u were updating the remix build or something, the unity mod release should come with a remix build
lament ice
no i just installed it wrong
and then remembered
theres a difference between how its done in 64 vs 32
with no bridge
trying out fruad
now im getting stuck here
with no exe
nvm
time to l👀k
onyx apex
wow im blind
lament ice
FRUAD SPOILERS
lament ice
it hangs for a second
onyx apex
wtf is going on with the arm lmfao
onyx apex
he going ballistic
quaint grail
Hard do tell if its terrible or kind of okay because basically nothing renders lol
lament ice
this is why he has a model now
topaz knoll
found a really accurate poppy playtime remake on unity and it works okay, no textures and right hand is really bugged
lament ice
i found out that geometry depends on the sharedassets
if map geometry are on sh...
@onyx apex this
onyx apex
ahh right
worn swan
is it possible in the code to implement sharedasset0 - w/e to autodetect?
cant just extract them because of dir changes from unitys engine
worn swan
https://hakita.itch.io/ultrakill-prelude they still have the demo
dusky apex
too many requests
worn swan
too many requests
its a bug reload the page
worn swan
needs work but i tried to add it to where it could read all shared asset files but i failed somewhere but bepinex sees it but it will not bring up remix
worn swan
well this online game uses unity but dx12
lament ice
well this online game uses unity but dx12
Renderer doesnt matter
As long as its monobleedongedge
worn swan
above is an updated dev branch for IL2CPP . the plugin just needs updated
onyx apex
let's get this back on the road
quaint grail
let's get this back on the road
onyx apex
normal mono and il2cpp are definitely pushed back in favor of better rendering for games that already run
ik i got some il2cpp stuff working but in general its a nightmare because its highly obfuscated vs monobleedingedge
lament ice
best of luck PLEASE keep me updated
young wolf
ik i got some il2cpp stuff working but in general its a nightmare because its hi...
and what about vr support?
topaz knoll
let's get this back on the road
onyx apex
and what about vr support?
light bronze
and what about vr support?
onyx apex
i think it just dumped all ultrakill maps
i definitely see more geometry on the ultrakill titlescreen
game locks up loading a map but we'll see what happens ig
lament ice
Ooooooooh
lament ice
Buh?
onyx apex
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lament ice
WOAH
onyx apex
quaint grail
onyx apex
lmfao
quaint grail
HAPPINESS and JOY is BANNED
onyx apex
how did you get the 2 separate windows??
its been like that since the start, since we're using the remix api directly, we have to make a fake d3d9 context to draw remix somewhere. I currently cant bind remix to the main game window since its dx11/dxgi
to be clear, we arent rendering via d3d9, its literally just the window
sudden seal
yeah
that's neat
i wanted a system like that for debugging remix normally tbh
it'd make it a lot easier
lament ice
I find it kinda annoying cuz you need to have inputs on the main window
Meaning you cant minimize it
sudden seal
the main advantage would be that you don't need spend time debugging menus and stuff
onyx apex
I find it kinda annoying cuz you need to have inputs on the main window
i think in the future im gonna hide the main game window and have the hud render via remix
its gonna need some kind of raster lib to do that tho
sudden seal
if i were to attempt DX11 stuff like fallout 4, i should probably just use your work here as a base
onyx apex
its all on github 🙂
though i will say most of this other than remix itself is very unity specific
lament ice
Hoping fallout 4 works cuz thats the gateway to cimena
sudden seal
mainly looking for the API tweaks that let replacements and stuff work
half musk
HOdsf afzxbdzgsvfgvdxgfhrvtefgdhxnbdhfrawtrvdhgx fhnxgdsarefcdagsbnxcdgzfsaeFQCJ...
looks like a hash lmao
onyx apex
Its so cool seeing UK load all geometry
its all
lament ice
Waw
onyx apex
im still trying to get streaming working correctly so it doesnt break between scene loads or crash for really big maps
i also would prefer to not do offline baking
lament ice
Wow
onyx apex
still a tad slow but museum doesnt kill my pc now
video compression and no textures doesnt help but almost all of the geo is now there ❤️
lament ice
Amazing work cr
onyx apex
ty
lament ice
Now..... what about fraud 
(assuming it crashes)
onyx apex
i dont think i even have the chapter unlocked
onyx apex
the latency between the two windows is interesting 🤔
to be expected because its being intercepted from the engine
instead of like actual render calls, its literally camera, geo, and lights lol
its what makes it work on most monobleedingedge games
lament ice
It works perfectly on a single game
onyx apex
video compression and no textures doesnt help but almost all of the geo is now t...
now to see if i can make this work without baking, i've been relying on assetripper to dump the game whenever it encounters unity scenes (for some reason it just did all of them at once when ultrakill started lol)
lament ice
It works perfectly on a single game
@sudden seal this game with crs mod works genuinely without a hitch
onyx apex
stanley parable is close to 100% as well
lament ice
lament ice
Yeah batdr has poor performance too
lament ice
I think its either dx11 or 12
onyx apex
i love API agnostic compat mods
onyx apex
my fav example being PEAK because its vulkan and dx12 🫃
and uses unity's stupidly new rendering pipeline
lament ice
Im js excited for UK and atlyss
onyx apex
and hakita decided to enable it for everywhere else?
it even shows on the main menu lol
lament ice
Yeah I guess lmao
Its the same thing that peak has
With the chicken overlay
Seems like a good idea to use it for pho view model shadows (if it didnt spin)
lament ice
Idk
onyx apex
my wakeup alarm is in 6 hours
i must
get
runtime
scene meshes
working
🤤
what the fuck
gpu readback sort of working?
lament ice
Geos gone again?
onyx apex
its there but its all over the place
lament ice
Ah
quaint grail
Perhaps the weirdest bug ive ever seen from remix. Thats how you know you're doing it right
sudden seal
boop
quaint grail
half musk
ain't no way
quaint grail
Do objects with multiple materials work yet
onyx apex
if anything its pulling some of the unity editor stuff too lol
onyx apex
Do objects with multiple materials work yet <:isforme:1324851671779512401>
i dont think so
you can also see its applying textures incorrectly
quaint grail
Incorrectly is only 2 letters away from correctly in my book 
lament ice
Cant wait for proper textemurs
onyx apex
i wish the fallback light wasnt noise city
lament ice
Same with vms
onyx apex
i think its the radius i have it set at
im pretty sure these are enemy spawns later in the level?
lmao
lament ice
Probably
onyx apex
i need to filter these out
iirc its all prefrabs anyway
lol wut
looks like a liminal place
lament ice
Spooky
onyx apex
should probably move my work to the 2024 build for rn, the thirdperson stuff is driving me nuts
onyx apex
ok it looks like my gpu readback stuff doesnt work for UK 2024?
i can tell cuz it loads way too fast and geo is missing on a lot of levels
i should try atlyss
lament ice
True
onyx apex
forcing checkerboard texture for prefab meshes so i can just ignore them in remix, trying to do it via code broke other render paths
for some reason i cant click it yet but its prob a runtime regression
i can click some things, just not much else lol
lament ice
Fire
quaint grail
actual bigbrain 
onyx apex
lament ice
Why not make the extra model use the same texture
onyx apex
you mean the 3rd person one?
lament ice
Yeah
onyx apex
would require game-specific changes
lament ice
Ah
onyx apex
unity successfully looking like a source game again 🫃
why are the papers only visible in RT guh
lmao wtf
PROPER TEXTURES
(well mostly)
quaint grail
Gonna get banned for spam so just pretend I did
Need more adjacent emojis btw
It conveys the correct emotion but I need variety in how its expressed
sudden seal
dude you're so fucking awesome
quaint grail
Better not fixs UVs before I get up later today its past midnight lol*
Goodnight guys
sudden seal
nite!!
onyx apex
dude you're so fucking awesome
ty!!! 
sudden seal
onyx apex
split loom
Dayume
atomic thorn
WHY DOES THIS WORK
Because unity 2d is just planes in 3d space
onyx apex
yeah true
atomic thorn
Mono?
onyx apex
normal mono and il2cpp are definitely pushed back in favor of better rendering f...
^
no
and no for a long time
atomic thorn
Oh I wonder if the forest games will be willing to do anything now
atomic thorn
and no for a long time
Oh...
onyx apex
half musk
bruh
split loom
Good night, you earned your slep
worn swan
Nice job cr. A question though. Wouldn't 2 windows kill performance?
atomic thorn
No
lament ice
onyx apex
Nice job cr. A question though. Wouldn't 2 windows kill performance?
not really
onyx apex
So textures fully work now? Or are there some issues still
some still show in the wrong orientation but every mesh is now getting assigned the correct texture. alpha test/blend and vertex colors still missing so games like atlyss look pretty broken still
that's next to fix in addition to adding an imgui extension to the remix api so i can control the wrapper
lament ice
ah right
will we be able to turn off filtering btw? or change it to whatever uk/atlyss use
onyx apex
oh you mean like texture filtering?
lament ice
yeah
onyx apex
yeah i can, would be another runtime change
onyx apex
yea lol
worn swan
Does any game work beyond 2024?
onyx apex
yes
worn swan
Cool
onyx apex
as long as it uses monobleedingedge
peak being the newest game we've tested? late 2025
worn swan
How is the new module coming along after monobleedingedge
onyx apex
wdym
worn swan
Ilpc or w/e
onyx apex
il2cpp and mono?
worn swan
Yea
onyx apex
and no for a long time
^
worn swan
Oh
onyx apex
best thing for this project is to get it to render correctly with the games that already work
worn swan
Bepinex 6 is on the dev action build but I dunno