Grand Theft Auto IV (GTA 4)

[narrow cloak]

Got it

So remix CAN do texture manipulaton in realtime

[smoky flame]

its not texture manipulation tho

its a shader

[narrow cloak]

That's handled by the runtime

[mighty gull]

Original game, before mixing in color, looked like this.

[mighty gull]

PointInstancer Script Demo

[smoky flame]

Are you still on an older build or what’s up with the hair

[mighty gull]

I’m on 0.9.2 right now. The hair’s using my material replacement, I haven’t touched it recently. Planning to fix it later with our character modeling artist.

[peak shoal]

Respect++

[upper shale]

so, do materials like glass and leafes have transparancy ?

[versed patrol]

yeah in the original game they do

[upper shale]

what about now ?

honestly I am just being annoying because I want to see more screenshots

this looks beautiful

[versed patrol]

Remix doesn't change this

someone has to

And idk if anyone has started doing any proper vegetation replacement

[twin mason]

We getting Pokemon zaza grass or some cut grass?

[compact cargo]

maybe turn down the smoothness a bit on the asphault

looks really nice tho

[frosty wren]

yeah was about to say, love the roads just still keep them a bit dirty and not too clean

[bold dome]

I'm going to put a little dirt on it.

🙏

Thank you

[crimson ruin]

looks good

is it fully ai tho?

[bold dome]

I didn't use AI in this.

I'm learning little by little

[frosty wren]

a RN

[narrow cloak]

Crinkly

Just like my

[frosty wren]

wow

thats so trash

😄

👍

good

[upper shale]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-vince-mcmahon-gif-20562072

[barren thorn]

This is proper reaction to see trash

[rough rover]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-parker-im-gonna-put-some-dirt-on-you-eye-mad-gif-15750742

[bold dome]

lol

[solid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-trash-brock-gif-18043758

[limpid path]

really really impressed

[smoky flame]

added raindrops and some variation to the global wetness to not make it look like a mirror even when not using any pbr on the roads

[reef gate]

I wonder if someone will be able to reach the fidelity of driveclub's rain in remix someday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykvR7HyoZog

[zenith hill]

jesus christ lol they were so proud of that rain effect on the camera that they didn't even care that it obstructs the whole screen

[lone garden]

holly fuck

[lone garden]

pure Niko

liberty city killed him

🥀

[limpid path]

the lighting indoors is really nice

[limpid path]

@smoky flame are there any plans for a proper color grading solution rather than relying on the tonemapper?

[smoky flame]

wdym exactly?

[limpid path]

right now unless i'm mistaken, you're dynamically adjusting the tonemapper's settings to achieve the overall look and match the vanilla game's appearance?

doing that is a good solution, but it's not really the ideal way to achieve this because it can lead to crushed dynamic range and various other issues afaik

[smoky flame]

mhh yea but what would be the better solution here?

the game provides a color temperature, a color correction var (rgb), saturation and gamma offset

[limpid path]

@stone sage maybe you can share magical knowledge that extends beyond my own

[zenith hill]

wait are you using the temperature member in the timecycle struct as color temperature? because that's actually weather temperature

it's not in any units in particular it just enables some effects if it's below some threshold

[stone sage]

for games that clip, I tend to think that a high shoulder per channel tonemap looks good. Maybe something like hermite spline. Of course, this will desaturate highlights a bit more than the game normally does.

[smoky flame]

oh .. 😂
I thought its color temperature. I think I've set influence pretty low

[stone sage]

or you could just do by luminance with a low-ish white clip

[dull thunder]

How are you handling raindrops? Normal Flipbook texture? Because the framerate for that looks like it's very low

[stone sage]

ACES is an extremely bad fit for games that aren't built for it

[smoky flame]

noise and its dynamic all done inside the opaque shader

[smoky flame]

ACES is not in use

using the global tonemapper because that exposes a colorbalance

[dull thunder]

So it's a game specific modification or something that's being done by remix runtime itself since you said opaque shader. Animation needs some work but damn that's pretty impressive in it's own

[smoky flame]

done on the runtime side but with game input to tell the runtime where to apply it. The game controls the strength, scales and surfaces where it should be applied

[narrow cloak]

You know, reshade is a very good choice here. Reshade has some very good and advanced color grading shaders, plus it has addon support now so you can connect your patches to your reshade shader instead of remix and grade things there.

[smoky flame]

The GTAIV RTX Remix Compatibility Mod is now publicly available at: https://github.com/xoxor4d/gta4-rtx
The latest release with an installer can be found here: https://github.com/xoxor4d/gta4-rtx/releases

Thanks to everyone for the support, the feedback, the contributions and the nice dialogs along the way! I hope the release works like it's supposed to 🫣
The mod still isn't finished but in pretty good state I'd say. With that said, have fun everyone and I hope to see great remix mods for GTAIV in the future! 🛝

[rough mesa]

congratulations and great work! amazing stuff

[tidal lantern]

hey guys, is it normal I get 20-40 fps on High settings in GTA 4 RTX remix mod?
4K DLSS performance, RTX 4090
am I doing something wrong?

[earnest kernel]

Which CPU

[tidal lantern]

7700X

should I choose that different threading .bat file?

you know those little files

that play with how much cores/threads are used 🤔

because this does seem like a CPU limitation

it's all over the place

50-95 % GPU util.

[earnest kernel]

You can try the other batch but it's unlikely to make a big difference. Around 40fps sounds right. Are those 20fps near vegetation per chance? Those kill performance at this moment

[tidal lantern]

I just tried running the mod for few minutes... normal city gameplay, nothing special going on... 40 would be somewhat acceptable but below that I consider this mod unplayable... can the performance improve over time?

what I mean is can it be made better by patches, optimizations?

or this is just how it will run?

[eternal bronze]

I got the same fps with a 14600k and a 5070ti so it seems to be a processor limitation since our cpus have similar performance but I'm no expert... it's just a guess

Try enabling frame generation and it will run at close to 60 fps

Even 3x works well on 4K

[twin mason]

Stuttering
If you notice heavy stuttering, launch the game with the included _LaunchWithProcessorAffinity_2Cores_GTA4.bat
Doing this will assign 2 cores to GTA4 and the rest to Remix.
If you want a 50/50 split, use _LaunchWithProcessorAffinity_Half_GTA4__Half_Remix.bat

what if i choose to run it normal from the gtaiv.exe does the cores assign default again

[meager brook]

getting 44 fps via bench mark at 800 x 600 res, not bad for a first public release

[versed patrol]

i'm getting 18fps 😢

[dull thunder]

Congratulations on the mod release. I never thought this game would be compatible but here we are 🎉

[blissful rune]

Amazing

[twin mason]

framegen helps because its quite cinematic at 1440p

[blissful rune]

is there anyway to change the time of day ?

[twin mason]

theres a cheat code phone number iirc, but for more control try libertys legacy trainer

[lone garden]

that cheat code change weather

[worn fox]

There is also trainers

[blissful rune]

Thanks guys 🫡

[soft lava]

Easily amusing at the reflections just for a few seconds later the game drops to 4 FPS for abit and explodes into a crash lol.

[outer abyss]

Its going to be interesting to see what my FPS looks like with a 3090 and 5800x3d

[prisma solar]

my 3080 was crying for mercy lol

[hot marlin]

I'm running a 3070ti and a 5700x3d and I was running it pretty smoothly, I did have to turn RTX down to low/medium in some situations though

[fathom moth]

my 3060 mobile will go in melting point

[civic eagle]

Just to be sure, what game version was recommended? Pretty sure I read the latest is recommended which is likely the complete edition through R* launcher and not the old CD Retail until 1.0.8.0?

[lone garden]

steam complete edition

[civic eagle]

Oh... so there is a difference between the two.
I am not sure if it will conflict with my existing retail installation on older patches but thank you.

[lone garden]

i just renamed original folder and reinstall game

for fancy rays

[civic eagle]

Ah well just bought it on Steam, never had it there.
But for this I make an exception.
Great work from what I've seen so far, good job xoxor.

[civic eagle]

Guess that'll be fun to figure out.
Had it scan for existing installs but that accidentally started automatically updating my retail version, which I aborted, then that didn't launch until I patched that version back to 1.0.8.0 because R* changes the GTAIV.exe and that was no longer compatible.

Then I renamed the retail folder and R* launcher was stuck on uninstalling it for unknown reasons, renamed it back and made a backup copy and put it back on the original folder, it needed 10 minutes to magically uninstall nothing (by re-enabling automatic updates).

So now that is all fine again however the Steam version just refuses to launch no matter what, verified the files etc, it is a clean Steam installation which has it's own folder but just with RTX Remix files added to it.

The R* launcher account is already linked to the correct Steam account so that can't be it.
🤷‍♂️

[young patrol]

Is it normal for it to spend over 60 seconds on "compiling shaders" on first launch? Maybe I'm just spoiled but I feel like this isn't normal

[lone garden]

just click retry

normal gta 4 sometimes doing same shit

oooor its skill issue

[young patrol]

Nevermind, it had crashed in the background and Windows 11 in all its glory just let me sit there until I tried clicking and it was all "gta IV has stopped responding"

[lone garden]

♥️

[young patrol]

Wow, this looks amazing. Major props to you, xorxor

My singular complaint: I'm too spoiled by that one guy's RDR2 vegetation mod. The trees are so fucking ugly compared to what I'm used to. But I'm sure someone will make an RTX variant of that mod soon

[civic eagle]

it can also be that this is one of those games not playing well if you don't have it on your C:\ drive. 🙄 but I'll try to troubleshoot it. Retry won't work. Neither does verify, neither does admin etc.

[young patrol]

If it helps, I'm running it off my H:\ drive

[lone garden]

idk gta 4 works fine on c:\

skill issue

[civic eagle]

Well I got it to work in the end but with a "workaround" so I have to figure out why this is, kind of frustrating.
That R* launcher is sometimes so troublesome, even if the game was installed without RTX files it would error out and it does not tell you why.
Ignore the VRAM usage I have AI video upscale model running in the background simultaneously.
But so far this looks great.

[civic eagle]

Shadows not reaching that very far is probably by design?

Well the sunshaft/shadow grating there up the road from the subway rails.

[limpid path]

could be LODs on the grating

[civic eagle]

https://youtu.be/6MhV8nPfTMw?t=169
https://youtu.be/6MhV8nPfTMw?t=321

Hmm yeah not sure, I don't know if that is configurable, I know they changed shadow behaviors through patches and I believe they always said 1.0.4.0 did the best in that regard, it is just strange there's no light coming through at all, in the video timestamps with 1.0.4.0 and ENB you see it goes very far.

Not a biggie, was just wondering.

Not sure if the player is blocked. But example.

[bold dome]

this is a bug in the texture

[civic eagle]

https://youtu.be/Hyq4l2e8srU just sharing it here.

[young patrol]

I have no idea if this is an issue with patch differences (I used to play on 1.0.4.0 due to mod compatibility reasons) or a minor bug in this mod, but there's an ATM not far from the starting safe house where I would regularly go to rob people right after they withdrew money (You'd get like $500 minimum by killing them), that no one seems to be using. I've gone a bunch of times now.

[outer abyss]

GTA4 gonna be GTA4, even with the latest fusion fix and a clean install with no other mods you can still sometimes get a whiff of the taxi bug

What I'm saying is, there's always a chance the game is having a moment

[lone garden]

unloved cockstar child

[dull thunder]

Can anyone tell me what's preventing the animation from being applied around "Times Square" area properly into remix. Most videos I'm seeing online showcasing this area are static

[barren thorn]

because all of those banners are propably animated with shaders

and xor made as much as possible of the game fixed function

[dull thunder]

Can those shaders be made functional again in future releases?

any native restoration attempt would be much better than bringing it back using remix tricks like flipbook emissives

[barren thorn]

i think that you would need to re do those animations through remix flipbook stuff

[dull thunder]

Oh okay

[smoky flame]

I think some of them are bink files and even rendering them via shaders is not enough to get them to look properly (because we are missing the pixelshader). That might be fixable with a runtime tweak tho .. will see

[zenith hill]

its just OUT.Uv = float2(dot(IN.Uv, globalAnimUv0), dot(IN.Uv, globalAnimUv1))

[narrow cloak]

Strange texts of forgotten gods.

[earnest kernel]

God damn it Bink

[twin mason]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-delong-homer-simpson-wtf-gif-14229712

[earnest kernel]

Pressed F on the wrong side of the car and killed Lance apparently

[lone garden]

NOOOO WAY

IS IT GTA 6

[earnest kernel]

Ye

[zenith hill]

this will be gta 6 in 2005

[lone garden]

holly fuck lois

[earnest kernel]

More leaked GTA 6 pics

[lone garden]

thanks god they're keep using euphoria

[agile horizon]

wew, video soon?

[twin mason]

vehicles lose reflection in a matter of seconds on vce

but as you see here, they work before abruptly disappearing

[twin mason]

glass will keep the reflections but the car bodies do not

[dull thunder]

Something feels wrong here. Like the timecyc.dat seems to be applied from base GTA 4 instead of VCNG, it's all gray or desaturated:/

[civic eagle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQg0lkT9Jm0

[hasty crow]

Could you provide a link for said RDR2 mod ?

[twin mason]

download dayl's natural timecycle its in the optionals folder

[young patrol]

It's in DayL's discord server but here's the actual link to it I pulled out the server. It's not his timecyle mod. https://mega.nz/file/VMgAmRZD#NZzrkuPdLmKDK8hycfZrJdo3aHEhBYC6gCzmw8RC1Og

[frosty wren]

btw your game will become corrupted

with these trees

your save files i mean

do not autosave or manual save with them on if you care about it

dates dont fully work and crash the game

[lone garden]

imagine

ahh

mod that destroy your game

just for visuals

♥️

[frosty wren]

a vicious circle game =))

cant say its not satisfying when it works tho

[bold hedge]

I took a look at it and it seems that most of them are made through shaders and some details use the hidden corona texture.

[sharp inlet]

https://youtu.be/h9v3DjRkR4o?si=by_iZrUlVkbe3LFe

[crimson ruin]

maybe animation can be added using sprite sheet in toolkit

[livid valley]

yay good to see other rdna4 hardware performing well

[sharp inlet]

Exactly, but I still think RTX Remix is ​​poorly optimized for AMDs in general. My card performed at a maximum of about 60-70% of its capacity in GTA 4. RTX Remix still has room for performance improvement.

[limpid path]

well

[sharp inlet]

Another detail: when my GPU is using 100% of its capacity, it consumes 180-200W of power.

[limpid path]

it's open source, and if AMD cared they could contribute to the repository 😆

[sharp inlet]

AMD Redstone is coming soon, but since I'm quite a novice in this area, I can't say if it will benefit games with RTX Remix...

[livid valley]

you're cpu/engine bottlenecked

gta 4 is notoriously unoptimized and adding the remix bridge on top adds a lot of overhead

[livid valley]

from what i have seen, it won't. Most of their upcoming features are dx12 only

you can see im completely gpu bottlenecked on my hardware
https://youtu.be/XbdBgwhOpq8

[sharp inlet]

Now I'm curious, I'll test it using the same graphics settings to see how the FPS is.

[sharp inlet]

Well, using the same settings as you with RT Ultra, I got an average of 20-15 FPS. I think the processor is really what's limiting me...

[livid valley]

what is your CPU?

[sharp inlet]

I think with a better processor I could get around 30 fps most of the time with some drops to 25 fps.

[sharp inlet]

Ryzen 5 3600 6/12

[limpid path]

okay so i just wanna give an example

i have a 5080 and 9950x3d, and i was still cpu bottlenecked a lot of the time

GTA 4 is cursed

[sharp inlet]

I'm thinking of upgrading to AM5 with a Ryzen 7800x3d next year.
With this setup, I think the CPU bottleneck will disappear for a few years.

[sharp inlet]

Is this using RTX remix?

[limpid path]

yes

keep your visual settings in gta pretty low. the distance sliders mainly

it helps a lot

[sharp inlet]

But with your configuration, can the CPU deliver at least 60 fps without a frame generator?

[limpid path]

with the lower settings, sometimes. other times i drop down to mid 30s

[smoky flame]

Thank you once again 👍
Required some remix runtime sided modifications

[barren thorn]

so great

[narrow cloak]

Please man

You need a proper post processing system

[dull thunder]

Did you try this mod?

[narrow cloak]

Yes

[dull thunder]

what feels lacking to you in terms of post processing, like where can it be improved? because the one we have rn matches with the original game a lot, dull and desaturated

[narrow cloak]

It does the color corrections with tone mapping disabled

So most highlights and reflections are horribly ugly

[dull thunder]

i do feel the final image looks a bit washed

[narrow cloak]

It's genuinely impressive how bad it looks

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1432423411094917160/1435978590507499621/image.png?ex=692ee447&is=692d92c7&hm=f9761848d3c0dff111581ee9287bd26c8e68fb4f60b410b27de78e6aca56f285&

Look at this shit

I haven't seen clipping this severe before

[civic eagle]

I like how after all these years it still says GTX 295.
Tried to use DSR but that seems to crash.

Wait, this floating phone is a feature now? 😂 that is awesome.

[dull thunder]

jeez a 5090 using 600 watts that's insane given what's it doing

[civic eagle]

Yeah in interiors it gets more of a chance to do something.

[smoky flame]

My first ever self-bought gpu .. and it was dead on arrival

[civic eagle]

Waha. yeah PT is ungodly heavy

Oh I see what u replied to now, that was a great one at the time 🙂

Never was able to have one.

[smoky flame]

write one then 😜

[narrow cloak]

It's called reshade and it's free and you can connect to it using the addon system for dynamic effects

[lone garden]

its called big pile of shit

add salt on wound

make it run more worse

[smoky flame]

not if you use it for sane effects

[earnest kernel]

Damn, Dual-GPU as the first self-bought GPU

[smoky flame]

I was 15 I think

bought it from my Jugendweihe 💵 😂

[earnest kernel]

Mine was a Radeon 9200SE

[earnest kernel]

Lol That's a top tier use of that money tho

[narrow cloak]

There are some really good post processing/color grading shaders

[earnest kernel]

I got the 9200SE when I was 12 because I had to have something to play HL2, Far Cry and Doom 3 (although it ran Doom kinda terribly with weird 10 min long load times despite the game running ok)

[narrow cloak]

I really think it's the way forward with color grading because you can connect to it using the addon system and change anything dynamically.

[peak shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/it-was-perfect-gif-15232884745301549452

[twin mason]

new timecycle for rtx remix by DayL

[hollow cape]

exactly i felt same

[nocturne quarry]

is this 1440p resolution and if yes, how did you manage to get it without breaking hud and aspect ratio?

[bold dome]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08cqobDUsQI

[smoky flame]

raindrops on translucent materials

[limpid path]

i don't really understand the question

i didn't have to do anything special

3440x1440

[nocturne quarry]

that resolution breaks at mine

[soft lava]

Did you change resolution and restart the game? I get that issue and restart to fix it.

[nocturne quarry]

nvm, it took a restart

how do i open the trainer?

[soft lava]

It happens to everyone and idk I don’t use one.

[reef gate]

Yeah, fusion FX really needs to be adapted to this so rain is fixed.

[young patrol]

To update for the few things that have been added since I first downloaded it, am I good to just copy-paste the new RTX remix folder and fusionfix stuff?

and then overwrite when prompted?

[exotic fog]

Did anyone tried to launch this on Macs? I’ve read that someone attempted to launch rtx remix for another game on Mac, but i don’t know was it successful or not.

[young patrol]

Also, awhile back I posted about NPCs not using ATMs so I can rob them for extra money. I found the source: The version of fusionfix this comes with. If you go into the settings for Game, and turn off seasonal events, NPCs will now use the ATMs

[smoky flame]

Yes but when did you first download it? 1.0 is still the latest version. I have not yet made a new release

[young patrol]

When it came public. I saw that the file size in the current release was different to what was in my PC's downloads folder

[smoky flame]

Oh yes I did a minor update on the original release to include a ram fix. If you downloaded yours earlier than that, simply get the new file and all you need to extract and replace is the .trex folder (that is within the comp. mod folder)

[barren thorn]

he just cant stop delivering

[plush dome]

I think he's really aiming for authentic looks which is what many many appreciate and what I think made and will make this project stands out, because besides how technically inferior IV looks are, they are aesthetically and stylishly better, they convey the vibe in a fitting manner

IMO which is just an opinion, it still looks bad, the base is there it's just not it now. Waxy looks, diffuse gloss road reflections, ghosting, some timecyc feel missing or messed up, etc... And all of that just to Gameplay the Game in a worst performance, all this negativity aside this project is quite impressive technically and visually in comparison with other non nvidia backed ones, I think Xorxor already acknowledges these issues and I hope my criticism doesn't come out as arrogant but rather constructive for other people who blindly agree this the better replacement for vanilla.

[outer abyss]

It's definitely not 'there' yet
As it currently stands this acts more like a platform for the community to create a full fledged remix mod from
Xoxor's work is insane already, their work is singlehandedly making any of this possible

With GTA4 specifically however, artistic intent is very hard to follow through on when you try to lift the game into the modern era
Aside from the models and textures being quite hard to properly upscale, Gta4 also has extremely heavy-handed color grading(e.g different filters for base,LATD and BOGT)as well as multiple post processing effects that do not look right when you use pathtracing, but lend GTA4 it's specific style(e.g Bloom)

It's going to be a community undertaking to make a feature complete RTX overhaul, it's currently all still in early stages, but xoxor has made it possible for it to happen

[lone garden]

holly fuck

[bold dome]

what is this 👀

[twin mason]

DayL's Natural Timecycle mod and set of tweaks for the RTX Remix compatibility options. Made for the fusion fix fork (allows modloading via "update" folder)

[bold dome]

Dayl is god

🙏

[twin mason]

takes one to know one

[dusk jolt]

Does Project 2DFX work with the remix mod?

[twin mason]

iirc the version of fusionfix its using has p2dfx merged

[dusk jolt]

ah ok

[dapper geode]

rip new driver crashing IV

[dapper geode]

nvm. very much somehow worked itself out the next day.

[twin mason]

vice citys mall

textures transparency on the grass is bugged

[hollow cape]

can u show how the game does look in night?

[twin mason]

I forwarded the mall image from fizzora, the mall is getting lighting fixes by them

That's with DNT for RTX

[hollow cape]

That's looks good

[hollow cape]

i see

[civic eagle]

https://www.nexusmods.com/gta4/mods/858?tab=images anyone seen this yet? Should work with this RTX Remix modification. 👀

Though a friend complained it has chrome paint for police cars instead of white paint but I didn't try it.

Or taxi yellow into chrome gold

[dull thunder]

Metallic values are applied globally instead of a select few car surfaces

Those cars should be glossy not metallic

[fervent acorn]

There one for rtx version made by @bold dome

[bold dome]

This is the rtx version

Already fix the cars

Put some dirt in the road

update soon

🙏

[frail widget]

comment section seems a lil wild good luck.

[twin mason]

https://tenor.com/view/freak-rave-under-the-bridge-costume-cyber-goth-gif-15226651

[rough rover]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-reaction-sam-raimi-spider-man-gif-27186563

[bold dome]

Trying to make more like the original

[dull thunder]

Try to make the surface where the tires usually go over slightly (very slightly) reflective due to the wear on the road

Matching the color pallete is essential if you want a 1:1 recreation

[rugged zinc]

Maybe this can help someone 😄 https://fixupx.com/wildmindai/status/1998737210741248210

Wildminder (@wildmindai)

ComfyUI-Chord by Ubisoft: A generate-and-estimate PBR material framework;
︀︀- robust on both generated textures & real photos;
︀︀- image-to-material
︀︀github.com/ubisoft/ComfyUI-Chord

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FixupX · Dec 10, 2025, 12:51 PM

[indigo quarry]

you need to be a veritfied researcher in order to download this

[narrow cloak]

Make an account and accept the terms

[indigo quarry]

that's not how it works

[stiff reef]

that's how it worked for me lol

[indigo quarry]

i guess i'm simply not verified enough

besides, its not like you can legally use any of the images it generates anyway.

[narrow cloak]

That is in fact how it works

[narrow cloak]

You can. Ai generated material is not subject to copyright. You simply can't claim it as your own creation.

[versed patrol]

how tf would they know anyway

[narrow cloak]

Because ai generated material looks like dogshit and can be easily seen?

[versed patrol]

yh but how would they know it's using their ai

i could say i used another one and they can't know for sure

that's what i meant

[narrow cloak]

Open source

Do whatever you want

[civic eagle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMxeQHL0ioE

@twin mason @bold dome he's used the graphical mods you posted with RTX Remix compatibility mod by xoxor4d for this video.
Though I am not sure if DayL's Natural Timecycle is the same as the DNT version posted or what exactly this is.

But all I can say he appreciated the coloring rework.

[lone garden]

are u sure u in right thread

[stiff reef]

no

i forgot lol

sorry

[lone garden]

it's okay

we just

ban u

[stiff reef]

[lone garden]

♥️

[civic eagle]

Side note the clips in the editor are smoother than recording it natively so you can just hide the hud and record it with shadowplay.

[bold dome]

Really cool

[indigo charm]

@bold dome any upcoming updates on your texture mod? was thinking to start the game but maybe wait for more

[indigo charm]

also ... anyone getting this?

Steam complete edition, only installed RTX Remix, accepted Fusion Fix rtx version, and DirectX

[smoky flame]

run in windowed mode

[bold dome]

probably tomorrow

[indigo charm]

I didn’t try without, but using the texture pack, during cutscenes camera cuts there is a lot of textures popping, anything can be done to improve this?

[young patrol]

Will the update include any trees? I was gonna try and convert a preexisting texture mod to rtx remix to get trees more up to the standard the rest of the game looks now but I won't if you're already on it - you've demonstrated more skill with textures than me

[smoky flame]

Someone will need to actually re-model the trees including the leafs so that they no longer use alpha testing - to improve performance

[winged matrix]

@silent topaz

https://tenor.com/view/look-stare-face-mean-bruh-gif-27645430

[silent topaz]

Mmhmm 😉

[gusty violet]

Holy shit it's BisonSales 🫡

[limpid path]

https://youtu.be/s77B-g0hqhc?si=4DX-Ao1TI7xWzj7H&t=1627

made it into this video

[civic eagle]

Heh I had a bit of a strange bug where the hud etc. was only taking like 1/4th of the screen (top left)
Worked after a restart though. But GTA IV I think had more weird bugs with resolutions.
I couldn't even open the RTX Remix menu and the F4 menu from the compatibility mod was also tiny and glitched out in the corner. 😆

[hollow estuary]

Some creators have their projects in their own communities you need to look for. There are some.

[smoky flame]

Yea you need to restart the game after changing the resolution

[civic eagle]

That is the strange part, it was pre-configured in the commandline. 👀 but I only newly copied the new 1.2.0 version from 1.0.0

[smoky flame]

What was preconfigured? And do you mean the txt file or in steam?

[civic eagle]

commandline.txt yeah the -width and -height parameters including refreshrate.

I have it normally like this:

 -noprecache -nomemrestrict -availablevidmem 32768 -norestrictions -fullspecaudio -forcehighqualitymirrors -noBlockOnLostFocus -d3dmt -width 2560 -height 1440 -refreshrate 165

[earnest kernel]

I recommend setting the res in the gamesettings toml in the rtx comp folder

That way it's actually forced

With the commandline I still get the game booting at 800x600 randomly and then the HUD is broken when I fix the res

[civic eagle]

Hmm okay I didn't know about this

The game has some issues with 800x600 often if you have set it fullscreen but minimize when you load the intro for the longest time I remember

[frosty wren]

😂 lets see if hes as offended as dayl i guess

[rotund dawn]

has someone gone to the statue of happiness with the rtx remix mod yet?

[narrow cloak]

Think I did

lemme try again

[twin mason]

What would cause the car paint to go matte? The vice city conversion sort of works, lots of vegetation issues but swapping the palm trees helped. The plants transparency shows up on a few

the grass here also bugging

[civic eagle]

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/jdkpORYn2H4 heh why are people like that, someone in the comments is arguing that this is cubemaps 😂

[earnest kernel]

Bro learned the word "cube map" once and thinks he's the Einstein of Graphics

[civic eagle]

Looks great.
Side note, both on 1.1.2 and 1.1.3 I seem to not to be able to open the rtx remix menu though I do see frametime spikes when I hit the button. Looks like I need to minimize and re-open the game for it to show up.
But yes I have set my native resolution in the .toml file this time around.
Not a biggie but figured sharing.

[smoky flame]

I did notice that as well and it likely stems from one of my runtime changes. Will look into that

[civic eagle]

This spot also seems extremely heavy with the trees. Already on 3x MFG.
Not sure if that is the leaves thing spoken about before.

[smoky flame]

Yep these need proper replacement to not suck up so much perf.

[civic eagle]

Gotcha 👍

[young patrol]

I have no idea why, but I updated to 1.1.3 and now, if I'm above a certain speed and try to change the radio station, instead Niko jumps out of the car

[young patrol]

I reset the controls and, despite not having made any custom mappings, it works fine now apparently

Nevermind the problem came back when I relaunched the game. I have no idea why.

Gonna do a fresh install; maybe there's something conflicting between it and warcaco's RTX mod

[young patrol]

I have no idea what happened, but simply reinstalling the RTX mods fixed the issue

[outer oar]

anyone freeze after launch?

[smoky flame]

There is a wiki on the GitHub page with troubleshooting that should help
Out

[slow rune]

this is the funniest mod i think ive ever downloaded

[smoky flame]

crazy that the game does not crash

[lone garden]

why it should?

[civic eagle]

Lmao did you get a vehicle.dat or something with 99999 speed.

I don't fully recall which file

[lone garden]

handling.dat

[civic eagle]

Ah yea, I guess later patches moved the files or something they're no longer in common/data like in for example 1.0.4.0 and maybe still in 1.0.7.0. Been a while.

IV multiplayer used to be hella warfare with trainers and file modifications just all out there to crash ones game.
People ultimately ended up modifying vehicle.dat for cars to be registered as a boat type so they spawned without wheels and the entire lobby would CTD. Some objects caused the same problem when aimed at ADS.

Their protection system for separating modders also didn't work very well, they originally designed that once they detected scripts the modders would only see lobbies with modders but because the system was hash-protected with CRC32 people just modified and bruteforced the CRC32 hashes back into the files to look legitimate, or inject asi as .dll because it would detect .dll on gameload but not on inject. 😅

[civic eagle]

Great work 👍

[hollow estuary]

Iceleglace would be proud

[frosty wren]

ice hated working on gta4 modding and hated the community lol, ig he had his reasons tho

[narrow cloak]

I can get behind hating communities around rstar's games

[civic eagle]

I guess these windows still need some love in Remix. Can't look through them.

[dull thunder]

Someone has to go through and modify all the needed textures and meshes for that reflective goodness

[hollow estuary]

they are doing it its called liberty remix project and they are reworking many assets starting from outside streets and working inwards.

[reef gate]

Is there any discord to see the progress?

[smoky flame]

there is a showcase thread for said project on the above mentioned server

[reef gate]

Actually, I cant see where is the message coming from, only shows up as forwarded

[smoky flame]

mhh weird: https://discord.gg/FMnfhpfZy9

[civic eagle]

Awesome.
Technically it wasn't my find but BenBuja's but I forwarded it. 😛

[civic eagle]

Was going to ask if anybody else was seeing slowed down download speeds but seems to have fixed itself.
Even in download manager the last few MB slowed down to 70KB/s but in browser it kept abruptly slowing down halfway.

[earnest kernel]

I had the same issue

[civic eagle]

Also, my filemanager warned that this path exceeded 259 characters, I don't know if that could be a potential issue for the game if certain files end up being in longer paths.

[earnest kernel]

Had to use a VPN to speed things up

[civic eagle]

Maybe github load balance or something then

[earnest kernel]

What's cool is that I just connected to a German VPN and it worked fine there

Didnt even have to connect to another country

[civic eagle]

maybe some routes are messed up and VPN route is working better

Oh well thanks 👍

[earnest kernel]

Wanted to forward this to the Compatibility Mod Discord to get around the size limits but Discord was like "hell nah "

[crimson ruin]

Showcasing remaded assets for LibertyRemix Mod for gta 4, all work on props done by me, using substance painter and blender
Mostly Im using irl references then game ref, but trying to keep original look as much as I can
Sorry for the spam, theres no option to create branches in projects channels

[lone garden]

wanna eat that barrel

[crimson ruin]

eat it

[livid valley]

this is some hl2rtx quality stuff holy shit you cooked so hard

[worn fox]

Why not steal from hl2rtx

[crimson ruin]

thanks man!

[crimson ruin]

lol

[narrow cloak]

Got DAMN

[versed patrol]

bro's working on gta 4 when he should work on gta 6

[frosty wren]

nah

better on 4 than 6

[rotund dawn]

Do you plan on still having a remaster of the half rusted barrel, feel like it looks a lot more gruff and real compared to the current remaster

[crimson ruin]

I might decrease rust level on the final result, will see

[young patrol]

Is anyone else having severe artifacting with rain whenever the new RTX rain effect is enabled in the comp mod?

I tried alt-tabbing and launching OBS to record just a bit to show what I meant but the game crashed when I alt-tabbed back

I was able to get a quick recording done

[civic eagle]

Converted it incase people don't want to download.

Have not yet encountered this myself but I have not been much in the rain.

[young patrol]

Ty. I dunno why it didn't just automatically work like that (I don't normally upload videos to discord)

[civic eagle]

mkv can't embed

But over in the other Discord other people have reported this issue too

[smoky flame]

Is this on 1.1.5?

[civic eagle]

Side note, this game used to have a lot of crashing issues when alt tabbing and fullscreen.
This was notoriously bad in singleplayer mode, but less in multiplayer for some reason.
For singleplayer might be better off having -windowed along with -noBlockOnLostFocus flags in commandline.txt and set the resolution in rtx_comp/game_settings.toml file.

Cursor may not show immediately but if you alt tab out and try to click somewhere outside the game it should popup

[civic eagle]

Reflections in the distance from the rain on the road (1.1.5) do look a bit much haha, it kinda turned into a mirror.

Overall very impressed with the new 1.1.5 build 👍

Lightning flashes do seem to cause some temporary figures over the screen.

[civic eagle]

Oh the shadows reach far further now too, awesome.

[civic eagle]

Having too much fun, I should sleep.

[smoky flame]

Trying (well AI is trying) to get mouse and keyboard input to work with reshade .. keyboard already works and mouse is semi broken

[civic eagle]

Think this game is kinda hell when it comes to how it handles cursors anyway, also never properly traps your mouse inside the game window when in windowed mode because I see cursor swipe to second monitor moving camera.
There is some .asi add-on that is supposed to fix that but I actually haven't properly checked.

[smoky flame]

the comp mod should lock the cursor to the game window

[civic eagle]

Oh yeah now you mention it I don't think I noticed issues with comp mod, just vanilla. so that's nice.

[tidal lantern]

guys, do these texture mods work with RTX remix?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ec5NFbN8ss

like this one

https://www.nexusmods.com/gta4/mods/282?tab=description

https://www.nexusmods.com/gta4/mods/357?tab=posts

[versed patrol]

You could port them but they're mostly using AI and the team remastering the game rn is insanely good and don't need ai

so yes

but do it

[tidal lantern]

i'm just asking if it will work and not crash/explode 😄

[versed patrol]

or just mod the game but it'll prob break cuz too much memory used

[versed patrol]

GTA 4 is a mess sooooo

either port them to remix

or try and mod the game

i can't guarantee that it'll work tho

since the comp mod might break cuz u modified the game

[tidal lantern]

ok well in the worst case I will reinstall the game 🤷‍♂️ thanks

[brave silo]

I don’t think iv vehicle pack uses much if any ai at all

might be misremembering?

[versed patrol]

the mod creator told me

somewhere in the xoxor discord

it's not ONLY ai

he worked on them

but it's ai upscaling

he upscaled with AI then reworked them

iirc

[crimson ruin]

Bunch of new stuff🙌 + new type of comparison

[dull thunder]

These feel faithful and properly remastered

[civic eagle]

This is beautiful, you all do some outstanding work.

[crimson ruin]

Thanks guys💚

[upbeat mason]

They look very nice. What's the usage license for these new models? Is it under MIT License or are there some restrictions? Can we use them on another projects by giving you credit or not?

[narrow cloak]

better be cc or completely copyrighted

[twin mason]

Video gamer sees a barrel

[serene wave]

Lies

Some AI was used with corrections

But a lot of it is remade from sources from other Rockstar Games or outright remade

[versed patrol]

yeah i crrected myself after, ik u worked on them but used upscaling

or smth like that

there's ai somewhere

idr where exactly

[serene wave]

I mean you could say AI was used on all of them since I ran everything through a DXT decompression AI to get rid of compression artifacts so I could edit them without worrying but that's not what most people think when AI is mentioned

[crimson ruin]

Probably CC or fully copyrighted yeah

For what purposes you personally need them tho?

[upbeat mason]

I just got curious because mostly modders don't put any license to their mods. I am paying attention to these kind of things because I don't want to accused of stealing if I happen to use them on another project etc. etc. these kind of reasons you know

[crimson ruin]

What, a lot of modders put license on their mods especially on their models and textures. We can just make a deal, if I find your project interesting or anyone else who found my models good and want to use them, just credit me

[young patrol]

I will say that as someone who's been in the skyrim modding scene for nearly a decade, your behavior with your mod assets is most certainly better than most and GordonGameman is right to worry. I've seen so much drama regarding accusations of stolen assets, mod authors who abandoned mods who only come back to throw a bitch fit becuase years later someone made a bug-fix patch or a patch to work on AE; etc

I've made like 2 skyrim mods, and both are cheat mods that add things like "Unrelenting force as a spell but I changed the script value to 69420 and it plays the Soul Tear Rii sound on cast, Sparks but the magicka cost is 0/second and the damage 999/second base, and an amulet with regen health magicka and stamina 999999%" and my philosophy is that all mods should be free with an optional support/donation system, but also I'm well aware that people with far more skill than me are making mods and are going to have a very "DONT TOUCH MUH SHIT" philosophy

[smoky flame]

not often that I play at native res due to development but man .. 🫣 😂

[civic eagle]

Done a hell of a job improving it, looks awesome.

[lone garden]

it just real life photos with ultrawide camera

[wicked hedge]

i would never buy a high end gpu due to the burning issue that is happening across 70 percent of devices

[smoky flame]

Geschichten aus dem Paulanergarten

[narrow cloak]

70?!

You must be living on the surface of the sun or something

[lone garden]

cool

but ahh

who cares and who asked

[twin mason]

North Koreans playing rtx remix with supreme leader

[dusk jolt]

Where did you hear that from bro? My 4090 still alive and well eith no burnt cables. What made you believe that 70% was the number? You're hella crazy

[narrow cloak]

He's probably lying to lie

[dull thunder]

Mr.X syndrome

[narrow cloak]

I've had my 4090 for two years and not a single issue

[plush dome]

i don't believe you bro

[proper hull]

I had my 4090 for 3 years work fine, then used the same cable for my 5090 that still works fine

[dusk jolt]

I wouldnt be able to afford replacements, you can believe me since im typing to you from said pc rn

[earnest kernel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/a7IzHWmXPc4 Getting random YT shorts of GTA 4 that just casually are RTX now 😂

[rough rover]

Ben Buja isn't random

[frail widget]

3 years of running the 666w bios daily through My 4090. not a single issue.

[smoky flame]

forgot to cross post the latest updates 🫣

[civic eagle]

Awesome, great work going to check out 1.1.7!

[narrow cloak]

I should update eventually.

[hazy vortex]

hi, im trying to run the game but i keep getting this error, i saw others had the same issue and one person said updating their nvidia driver fixed it, but mine is already fully updated so im not sure what to do

[civic eagle]

There is a new release, try that one.
A bug needed to be fixed.

[hazy vortex]

thats the one i already installed "GTAIV-Remix-CompatibilityMod-1.1.7.zip" :((

[civic eagle]

Yes, branch was updated ~37 minutes ago under 1.1.7

you can redownload same version

[hazy vortex]

oh tysm ill check it out

[civic eagle]

The lights are peak in Remix. 💜

[plush dome]

car looks like it has some kind of an eyeliner

[young patrol]

God Rockstar works in mysterious ways. I updated to 1.1.7, and my mouse sensitivity went up way too high. I went into the settings and it showed as all the way at the lowest (????), but putting it up at the highest and then lowering it back down to where I like it fixed it. I've got no freakin' clue what, how, or why, but it bore reporting just in case someone else had this Magical Mystery Issue (edited because a joke didn't really translate well to text)

[narrow cloak]

okayyyy...

[civic eagle]

I just remembered you can spawn dynamic objects with SNT, explosive barrels in remix.

[twin mason]

Barrel of love fist

[narrow cloak]

@smoky flame see what these guys are doing

#1116089843479498782 message

Converting game textures to be remix compatible

[smoky flame]

good stuff! Is this at runtime?

[livid valley]

nope, the binary module is generating them

[smoky flame]

I think I'm able to differentiate when the game is trying to set a normal map so I might be able to do something similar. How is it matching the texture to the material hash (that is yet to be calculated on remix' side) to create a proper usda override tho?

[livid valley]

I implemented a system on the gmod-side to compute texture hashes that match remix

had to hook into d3d9 iirc

https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/blob/main/source/d3d9_texture_tracker.cpp

[smoky flame]

Oh you implemented that into the api g_remix->dxvk_GetTextureHash(p2DTexture);

mhh will see if I can make that work through the bridge .. or I may replicate all of the code on my end

[crimson ruin]

It would be so good if it will work on gta 4🙏

[smoky flame]

Make it make sense (on demand is off)

[narrow cloak]

Twenty THOUSAND?!

[rotund dawn]

How much better does gta 4 feel with ser

Cause u have a 5090

[smoky flame]

have not done any testing myself tbh .. mostly cpu bottlenecked anyway

[rotund dawn]

Oh damn?

What dlss are u running on

[smoky flame]

uh whatever comes with remix 😄

[rotund dawn]

I mean what dlss mode?

[smoky flame]

quality I think

[rotund dawn]

U should try native res then if ur cpu bottlenecked

It’s so much clearer and stable compared to quality

[smoky flame]

I'd rather save some wattage because I'm not even playing most of the time 😄

[rotund dawn]

Ah ok

What fps are u on?

[earnest kernel]

You're not running native in GTA 4 unless it's like 1080p

Having all the texture maps from the game would be sick

[rotund dawn]

Even with mods that try fix it?

[earnest kernel]

Fix what? It's really intensive

[rotund dawn]

Like base gta 4?

[smoky flame]

I think .. yea I managed to pipe that through the bridge
[21:48:06.544] info: [RemixApi_GetTextureHash] Server-side texture pointer: 0x0000025C9B5F3740
[21:48:06.544] info: [RemixApi_GetTextureHash] Successfully got hash: 0x15DDAE9201DE0A3F

[prisma solar]

how do i fix the minimap

it fixed itself after a restart

[civic eagle]

Make sure you configure your native resolution in rtx_comp\comp_settings.toml file to avoid weird quirks like this with UI.

[lone garden]

hell yeah

now bens shorts won't look that flat

[smoky flame]

lmfao these captures get me every time

[dull thunder]

Now only if we could also convert specular/gloss to rough/metal maps somehow

[earnest kernel]

Are normal maps converted on the fly?

[smoky flame]

a rough estimation shouldnt be that hard

[smoky flame]

nah I'll have to fly through the map to gather and dump all the textures

I'll then generate a usda with overrides

[earnest kernel]

Ah

[dull thunder]

This will take a while. Especially if the comp mod just plugs in base game's material sets

[smoky flame]

Looks like they pack 3 spec maps into one texture

[dull thunder]

I've seen this format somewhere in frostbite too. There it's referred to as _WO in it's texture

It looks very similar

Wait...does that mean one spec texture is having each of its 3 channels used for 3 different textures?

[smoky flame]

correct

[narrow cloak]

Sizzle maps

Classic

[smoky flame]

well you'd normally pack other data of the same material into a single texture but not textures of other materials 😄
Keeping track of that sounds like a pain

float4 specMap = tex2D(SpecSampler, texCoord);
specIntensity *= dot(specMap.xyz, specMapIntMask.xyz);
specPower *= specMap.w;

Would have to also track the specMapIntMask to figure out what channel to use for the material .. I guess

[dull thunder]

Maybe it's the same material but to give more UV space by splitting the UV island distribution into 3 separate channels to avoid compression maybe. I'm just spitballing atp 😅

[smoky flame]

rgb

r

g

b

😂

[narrow cloak]

What's the texture name?

There might be hints to what's what

[smoky flame]

no idea

I get the remix hash for the color texture and dump the normal texture used for the same drawcall

[narrow cloak]

Post three channels from the same texture

[smoky flame]

it is the same texture mate

[narrow cloak]

What the fuck

That's 3 completely separate textures

Wall, sidewalk, tiles

[dull thunder]

Ha! These sets aren't even closely related lmao

This is some peak optimization

[narrow cloak]

insanity

[livid valley]

analog horror be like

[earnest kernel]

Rockstar were wilding on this one

[lone garden]

imagine trying to optimise open world game to 512mb of ram

or 256 ram 256 vram in case of shitstation3

every megabyte counts

[dull thunder]

GTA 5 must be an even greater challenge for R*

[lone garden]

they did that great

but ahh textures are usually something about 32x32

😭🙏

[smoky flame]

very subtle but working

[earnest kernel]

Hell yes

[narrow cloak]

Peak dropped

[indigo quarry]

I actually prefer this way more over ai generated PBR materials

It's the pathtracing itself that looks so nice

[bold hedge]

Is it only picking up the normal maps?

[smoky flame]

I'm working on logic to also get the correct spec maps but some hold 3 different specmaps in one texture (one in each channel) and I'm having trouble getting the right channel for the current material

[bold hedge]

When extracting textures, can you also find out the shader params?
specMapIntMask tells you which channel to choose

[smoky flame]

I'm reading the consts yea but I had some trouble with it. Seems like I fixed that just now

[bold hedge]

Okay. are you also checking if it has height maps?

[dull thunder]

I don't think height maps were present back then

[smoky flame]

which shader uses heightmaps?

oh well I guess gta_parallax_specmap

[bold hedge]

Everything with "pharallax" in the name, the heightmap is in the alpha channel.

[smoky flame]

of the normal?

[bold hedge]

of the normal map

[bold hedge]

You'd be surprised.

[dull thunder]

Damn. Interesting

I could not find any info about GTA 4 using height maps online

Weird

[civic eagle]

Kinda feels like POM but different I guess?

Looks really cool, could bring the game to a whole new life like level

[bold hedge]

They use POM, height maps is what the texture is called.

[dull thunder]

How did I not notice this 😭

I know GTA 5 uses parallax mapping

[bold hedge]

There are also normal maps that look like this; what was on the R channel is now on the alpha channel.

[smoky flame]

what shader is using these?

[bold hedge]

There's no specific shader, this one is being used by gta_normal_spec

[smoky flame]

and whats in the r channel then?

[bold hedge]

R and B are just black

[smoky flame]

uh .. what kind of normalmap is that 😂

[livid valley]

green map

[lone garden]

stole from my brain

[narrow cloak]

He said that what's on the r channel is stored in alpha

[smoky flame]

why would you ever do this tho

[narrow cloak]

B would probably be calculated in-shader.
Most commonly, unity does it where the green channel is omitted and then recalculated during runtime in-shader. Helps save memory at the cost of minimal shader perf

As for why it's in alpha? Only lord and rstar devs can tell

[dull thunder]

Maybe a console based quirk left behind

[dull thunder]

Nice!

[smoky flame]

some "normalmaps" actually look like bumpmaps??

[bold hedge]

yeah 💀

[smoky flame]

is there any constant that declares when its a bump or a normalmap? 😄

[next estuary]

Something something iirc more precision for the alpha channel in some bc formats

Vanilla dmc4 also stores red in alpha

[bold hedge]

From what I can see, nothing

If a material has no roughness, do you assign it a default value?

[smoky flame]

Yea .. I have it at 0.8 currently I think

good enough for a roughness map right

I do have a slider to adjust brightness

[dull thunder]

This is specmap inverted yeah?

[smoky flame]

the right one yea

and slightly brighter

[bold hedge]

You could also automate materials that have SSS 🤔

[dull thunder]

This game has a shadow map too 👀

[smoky flame]

not bad

[bold hedge]

How long does it take to convert all the textures in that area?

[smoky flame]

below 3 seconds if I'd chain everything automatically

I've just gathered 3k+ textures and converted them to octa normal maps and made roughness from specular maps in around 2 minutes

yey

[bold hedge]

Are you going to release a version with that tool or will you upload the texture pack that was generated?

[smoky flame]

both probably

mhh 😄

[dull thunder]

There should be an option to darken roughness, to give a more refined control/balance

[bold hedge]

Go to this part, to see what it looks like.

[smoky flame]

Tomorrow

[bold hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-crying-kitten-crying-05starrynight-gif-10141647709992578610

[peak shoal]

What is the status with the performance? Are there any improvements? I saw some time ago that there were problems because of trees

[sleek berry]

Question, how much of the game is remixed?

[narrow cloak]

Depends on your definition of remixed

[young patrol]

I'm playing through the game actively, while updating the RTX remix whenever I see it's been updated, and the game is very playable - The only thing that might be a problem is the phone, which is basically impossible to read the overwhelming majority of the time. Nonetheless, most textures have not been remade. @bold dome made a mod that remade a bunch to mostly excellent results (it's on Nexusmods), and there's a group in another discord server that's attempting to do ALL, but as far as I know they haven't released anything yet

[soft lava]

Did you do clean install on the latest version? It fixed the phone.

[smoky flame]

It’s apparently only fixed on that theme .. have not looked at the non-themed version yet

[soft lava]

Ah okay that would explain that if on a new save then.

[sleek berry]

I mean, how many textures and models have been changed

[tranquil pelican]

Has anyone managed to finish the game with the remix yet?

[earnest kernel]

At least one person in the RTX Comp Discord did

[tranquil pelican]

@earnest kernel for the answer I'm currently debating with myself if I should start playing with remix now or wait on till the GTA 6 pre-orders go online at some point

[earnest kernel]

Right now I'd probably wait what xoxor is cooking up with the PBR materials

That should increase graphical quality a good bit

[tranquil pelican]

also how well does the remix version work with mods?

specifically these. the Actual Complete Edition by Claude_III The Complete Liberty City (IV + EFLC Map Mix) by ElYisusKing GTA IV and EFLC - Characters Fixes by TheYoshiPunch

video with the mods and what they do plus links https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zozySRiHQc&list=FLr-5sPs6QX9I5R_Ni_IcOjA

[bold hedge]

Mods that require downgrading the game are a no-no.

[tranquil pelican]

hmmm none of these mods require downgrade I think? anyway I'm already having problems with one of them I'm gonna ask the developer if it's something that can be fixed

[tranquil pelican]

https://gtaforums.com/topic/967792-grand-theft-auto-iv-the-actual-complete-edition/#comments this is the mod I'm having issues with just in case anyone want to help me. it makes the game ctd

[twin mason]

I think that adding mods to rtx remix with fusion fix that are for complete edition patch may not work out. Maybe play the game with your mod list and then try to make it launch on rtx remix. You would need to use the fusionfix fork

I'm excited there is an update looks very gooood

[smoky flame]

Quite a few rocks on the path to autoconverting textures without tons of duplicates ..
Damn game constantly reusing existing texture objects really is a pain

[civic eagle]

Sounds like they done a lot of tricks to keep memory utilization low for the era.
I really wonder how V would do in this instance.

[bold hedge]

The worst part is that many vary in quality because some are like a just a texture, and others are in a channel of textures that can be of different sizes.

It took me a while to see which one looked better, when I was making my mod.

[dull thunder]

What's the name of you mod?

[bold hedge]

I haven't published it yet, and seeing as there's already a tool to generate the materials, I think I'll wait and make some modifications when it comes out.

[smoky flame]

mhhh yeaa ..

[earnest kernel]

Just Rage engine things

[smoky flame]

Man this endeavor is painful - and consumes a large amount of tokens 😄

[narrow cloak]

That's what you get for paying per token

Enjoy your $15 /m tokens

[smoky flame]

well whats the alternative

[narrow cloak]

20/100 dollars of claude

I paid for the 100 subscription two weeks ago and have used millions and millions of tokens

It also has a native extension for vs code

Not to mention that 4.5 opus is violently good at coding

[civic eagle]

Should keep these 'easter eggs'

[plush dome]

opencode and antigravity

you have a 5090... or at least that's what i recall

[smoky flame]

I don't think that I can fully fix the autoconversion tbh. Getting the hash via api isn't reliable if the game is constantly overwriting d3d textures with new data. (using UpdateTexture)

I intercept and get the hash after all textures were updated on the game side. But the actual hashing on remix' side happens at a later time. The hash that I'm grabbing from the api by the time the texture was updated on the game side can/will be outdated.

I'm hashing textures on my end which seems to be a good way to track textures but as soon as the dxvk hash comes in, it all gets messy. Cant check for "updated" dxvk hashes when generating the usda because most of the textures will no longer be in memory.

Tried replicating the dxvk hashing on my end but that's not possible ...

So current use cases (only thoughts)

• a material gathering tool with NO ability to automatically write usda overrides

  • but could be used by someone to create overrides manually (manually getting the hash and find the right dumped material)

• per snapshot usda generation

  • take snapshots with correct hashes without moving through the world to ensure hashes are valid
  • would generate a bunch of usda's
  • would need an external tool to merge the usda's

OR

somehow send additional data to remix so it knows associated normal and specular textures and dump and generate usda files from within remix

[narrow cloak]

Can't you update the same USA each time?

[smoky flame]

no because that would invalidate the ones written before because the game might have updated the textures and thus the hash changes - but hash the changes after I get the "latest" hash via the api .. so that creates lots of conflicts

[narrow cloak]

Ah

Dumb

[smoky flame]

Trying to do it via the runtime now, so I send additional data about textures to remix via the api and use it when the hash is updated and everything is ready to be used

[smoky flame]

I think .. it works properly now 👀

[narrow cloak]

Jeez, not bad at all

Are those bricks using depth maps?

[smoky flame]

Should have done that via the runtime from the get-go

It dumps textures where additional category data is available. That data can be provided via the remix api:

// typedef enum remixapi_dxvk_TextureCategory {
//    REMIXAPI_DXVK_TEXTURE_CATEGORY_UNKNOWN   = 0,
//    REMIXAPI_DXVK_TEXTURE_CATEGORY_COLORMAP  = 1,
//    REMIXAPI_DXVK_TEXTURE_CATEGORY_NORMAL    = 2,
//    REMIXAPI_DXVK_TEXTURE_CATEGORY_SPECULAR  = 3,
//    REMIXAPI_DXVK_TEXTURE_CATEGORY_HEIGHT    = 4
//  } remixapi_dxvk_TextureCategory;

bridge.dxvk_SetTextureCategory(
                texture,
                category,
                texture_slot,
                category == REMIXAPI_DXVK_TEXTURE_CATEGORY_SPECULAR ? spec_channel_index : -1,
                std::string(ctx.info.shader_name).c_str(),
                tex_name.c_str()
);

Remix can automatically create the usda with overrides, expecting all converted textures in a single folder.

Specular textures can hold multiple specular maps (one in each channel), it names specular textures accordingly. I have a few py scripts that automatically extract the correct channels and also create a rudimentary roughness map from the speculars.

[smoky flame]

Yea they use a heightmap in the og game. Parallax isnt used that much in gtaiv tho

[earnest kernel]

Always bet on xoxor

[smoky flame]

(c) for the idea @shell thistle and @livid valley 🥳

[rotund dawn]

do you plan on updating it once they figure out how to fix the file size and vram issue

[smoky flame]

I'm not sure what that means

[rotund dawn]

with how the autopbr mod works it has to copy over each texture into a mod remix can understand, which will increase file size and vram consumption

[smoky flame]

Well .. obviously but that is the case for every remix mod .. so that's not really an issue?
Also, these textures will only be in use until proper ones are in place. These "placeholders" wont be loaded afterwards

Another thing is that I actually prevent the og game from loading normal and specularmaps because remix itself has no use for them. So I actually should end up with 1:1 vram

[civic eagle]

🎉 you're all wizards.

[bold hedge]

Check the bullet hole decals to see how good the pom looks

[smoky flame]

had to do some cleanup first and I did not shoot anything in the prior run so I have not captured these. Will do a larger run in a few minutes and will try to include them 👍

https://github.com/xoxor4d/dxvk-remix/tree/feat/AutoPBR

[shell thistle]

[smoky flame]

lets see ...

[narrow cloak]

Did it work

[smoky flame]

dunno yet have to convert a bunch of dds files first. My texture association json is 16mb D:

[narrow cloak]

Erm. Erm. Runtime conversion

[smoky flame]

nope using external tools for that because I'm more flexible with that. Using NVTT batch and py scripts

okay almost 18k normal and spec maps

[narrow cloak]

Man. It's possible to get 4k textures from rogue trooper redux back into the regular rogue trooper but the game is juuust a little unstable. By a little I mean the fucking remix menu won't open. I even made a working script to convert shi

The recent update which got rid of most of the shaking vertex issues is so good

[smoky flame]

Okay first safehouse is good

[narrow cloak]

Not bad

[smoky flame]

this reminds me of something else

[earnest kernel]

Wrinkly cars

[narrow cloak]

MY BALLS

[lone garden]

someone kill this mf

😭🙏

[smoky flame]

aah

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Material: mat_3F6C008F32FE3D33
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Colormap Hash: 0x3F6C008F32FE3D33
  Shader: common:/shaders/win32_30_atidx10/gta_vehicle_paint2.fxc
  Textures:
    Colormap: vehicle_generic_smallspecmap
    Normal: feltzer_roof_normal (0x9EB134690B5641E5, 256x256)
    Specular: vehicle_generic_alloy_silver_spec (0x55252897F7BAF32D, 256x256, specChannelIndex=0 [R]) -> roughness

much better

[narrow cloak]

Light

Put a light on it

[smoky flame]

i've already killed it mate

[narrow cloak]

Guh

[lone garden]

this is so cool

insane

[smoky flame]

windows 😄

[earnest kernel]

The reflections of the lights on the floor on the car

[narrow cloak]

Huh

[earnest kernel]

Are the transparencies on the bus stop also reflecting now?

[smoky flame]

yea but I did that manually like 1 or 2 updates ago

[earnest kernel]

Ah

[smoky flame]

normalmaps seem to be pretty low intensity since the shaders use a bumpiness shader constant to scale the intensity. Might have to read that value and avarage it out over all encounters or something

[narrow cloak]

Or set it for each material

I think replacements support nm intensity settings

[smoky flame]

I mean that per material

[narrow cloak]

Ah yeah

Sounds good

[smoky flame]

but the game could do that per mesh and not per material thats why I meant averaging them

[narrow cloak]

Weird

[smoky flame]

huge upgrade of interiors tho

[livid valley]

[narrow cloak]

Welp. That's another feature request from burrito handled

[livid valley]

definitely a killer feature for a compat mod

[bold hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-old-man-shaking-head-gif-3938163323164042530

[narrow cloak]

Now if only he implements reshade for color grading so that remix can do tonemapping

The clipped brights make me want to pull my hair out

[limpid path]

✨ modified renodx

[smoky flame]

Tried - broken mouse input is a dealbreaker. Not being able to ship reshade files (license + well, there is no reshade file for vulkan) is another dealbreaker. I'd rather have something integrated into remix

[earnest kernel]

It's too peak, barely able to handle it

[narrow cloak]

Guh

[bold hedge]

What is the current size of what you have converted?

[smoky flame]

roughly 1.6gb

spawned every char, every car and flew close to every street. Still need to do cutscenes tho

[narrow cloak]

You should see what the bowling lane looks like

[smoky flame]

#1412450145051869316 message

[narrow cloak]

Mmm yes

Good

With a side of clipped highlights

[civic eagle]

All this is absolutely crazy, what a wonderful achievement.

[livid valley]

this looks like the global tonemapper instead of local

😭

[narrow cloak]

Yeah

It's so that xoxor can do his tonemappig stuff

[finite talon]

could integrate the tonemapping and colorgrading stuff from RenoDX
RenoDX is MIT licensed

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/tree/main/src/shaders

hermite spline + blowout looks nice

the frostbite displaymapper is also nice

[quasi lagoon]

why your police car is white? mine looks like its chrome. fresh install

[smoky flame]

Waraco textures?

[quasi lagoon]

yes i have waraco textures. right

[smoky flame]

That’s your „issue“ then

[barren thorn]

[lone garden]

ai generated bullshit

[earnest kernel]

He just turned the metallic slider up too high

Been there done that

[barren thorn]

Ai gen is closely resembling pbr making from albedo
It is really tough task to do it properly

Im using quixel to do some mixing albedo made pbrs + painting onto it by hand stuff on layers and then adding some materials on diffrent places of material

This work with everything but characters

[dull thunder]

Characters need specific retouches

[barren thorn]

Yea

[dull thunder]

Mostly with how their clothing material is, Micro-Details are important

The hand and faces is where i have no prior experience so can't say on that

🫣

[barren thorn]

Once i found skin normal map and forced it on hands and it was disgusting xD

On face too

The worst is that most of those old games has one texture for full body

I love making bricks

Tho

XD

And windows

[smoky flame]

[shell thistle]

Why is it wrinkly sack

[civic eagle]

Didn't know cars formed wrinkles, any creme to fix that?

[shell thistle]

He was in the bath too long

[dull thunder]

Elite ball knowledge

[worn fox]

https://tenor.com/view/those-who-know-gif-11649854171545990828

[barren thorn]

Nutaxi

[twin mason]

Special K might be able to load the .dll as a plugin

[finite talon]

reshade actually injects but the mouse doesn't work

[smoky flame]

Yes I know but there is no "injected file" used for vulkan. It works by registering a handle - anyhow, I cant ship it as one complete package and would need to request users to install reshade manually. You can imagine the amount of why working not mod questions.

I've actually fiddled with the bridge to create a secondary "proxy" window to forward input to reshade and it was kinda working. But its not worth the hassle

[finite talon]

Oh I was just filling in the person who suggested specialk

a lot of reshade effects could probably just be straight ported to remix anyways (if the license allows that)

not a huge deal that reshade doesn't work

[twin mason]

Special K also does input tho

I'll try when I update to last version and lyk

[finite talon]

if specialk does work I might know a guy

[twin mason]

M8 not kitty

This server has no troll face emoji

[finite talon]

lol
I mean pmnox

https://github.com/pmnoxx/display-commander

this guy

[twin mason]

Nice thats juiced up

[finite talon]

I know better than to pester Kal about this sort of thing

[livid valley]

curious to see how this works on linux

would be nice to have anti lag 2 on remix

[finite talon]

no idea lol

[twin mason]

special k not letting rtx remix load

[bold dome]

https://youtu.be/pjBDgZeHWQc

[fervent acorn]

Are you working with xoxor4d on this?

[bold dome]

No, but it is compatible.

[hollow estuary]

unreal engine shadown bias settings lol

[earnest kernel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8qoXAXs-dA

[twin mason]

Looked into the sk discord and rtx remix was mentioned a few times, here's GTA IV too

[dull thunder]

something about the material used here on the building (and i guess on a lot of other buildings) feels weird. like it does not look correct

maybe something to do with normal maps?

[smoky flame]

iirc these are the og normalmaps

[dull thunder]

Very weird. The script should convert it to octahedral format

[lone garden]

maybe he mean that's original normals from game(already converted)

[dull thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-tony-stark-why-stupid-conversation-amid-an-argument-gif-12805066

[dawn escarp]

What is the possibility we can get a compatibility mod for LA Noire?

[smoky flame]

Anything between 0 to 100 😛

[barren thorn]

L.A Noire looks good with remix 😉

Tried it

[dusk jolt]

How about Garfield Kart?

https://tenor.com/view/draco-malfoy-harry-potter-mewing-mew-slytherin-gif-8263298459687914233

Actually scratch that it actually worked XD

[snow aurora]

Are these possible to be auto generated or would it require manual tweaking for every texture in the game?

[rotund dawn]

you need a height map for the POM to work

[barren thorn]

Those are definitely manual

[versed patrol]

You can automate with AI but don't expect it to be as high quality as this

[dawn escarp]

PBR fusion does a pretty good job at generating height maps
https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1345238171549700116

[civic eagle]

Love how this looks.

By the way @smoky flame updated it to a new version with optionally AutoPBR

[spark meadow]

hmm

[smoky flame]

restart

[spark meadow]

ok 👍

[spark meadow]

thanks a lot :3

it looks damn good

[spark meadow]

not sure what's causing this (the grates become less alpha as they get further away)

[smoky flame]

because these are alpha tested textures really expensive so it seems there is some kind of hard cutoff in remix

[worn fox]

afaik happens in the original game

not remix issue

[hasty crow]

Maybe increasing texture filtering quality in the Nvidia driver helps?

[barren thorn]

What if this is some kind of lod ?

[spark meadow]

tried to increase detail / view distance but it didn't really affect it. also tried to amp up the anistropic filtering, also not much

[spark meadow]

i get the feeling i remember something like that. so yeah. maybe it can be modded, but my gta 4 modding knowledge is on the negatives lol

perhaps getting rid of lower mipmaps for that texture. but that's probably going to mess with performance a fair bit, or perhaps making the lower mipmaps tend to transparency rather than opacity

[crimson ruin]

You can try to increase alpha cut out in dev gui menu

It might help

[civic eagle]

Absolutely fire updates.

[dull thunder]

These new trees and bushes don't use alpha textures for their leaves right? Might actually improve performance if so

[bold dome]

Gtapunk 😆

[young patrol]

Oh. My. GAWD. How did you get it looking like that? That's so fucken sick! Please tell me this is something you've publically released - my setup with your RTX mod from Nexus, the AutoPBR, and the mini Remix mod on top of the remix comp mod from Xoxor looks NOTHING like this (still looks amazing and props to everyone who worked on those mods)

[bold dome]

I just change some settings in the f4 menu and tonemapping

Will share soon

[last wing]

I do have a question with my RTX 3080 can i run it? 🙂

[narrow cloak]

One way to find out

[rustic coral]

I get around 30fps at 1080p dlss performance and then use lossless scaling 🫠

[last wing]

Toaster Mode

[regal talon]

You can run DLSS on GTA4? 👀