Painkiller

[vale gust]

I don't like hooking

[light palm]

me either but you gotta do what you gotta d

o

[vale gust]

for what reason you need hooking

[noble beacon]

To make use of Remix API

To change stuff in real time

[vale gust]

don't you already have Alt+X

[noble beacon]

Otherwise everything you mod is static or sorts

[noble beacon]

It's for modding purposes

You change it once manually

Remix API changes things dynamically

For example, if we need different volumetrics settings for different levels

As of now every level has the same volumetrics preset

[light palm]

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/blob/69868e2eed4c90048b713ae6f3c89ac5324467cf/documentation/RemixSDK.md#using-the-remix-sdk-in-your-application

oh
"The main constraint is that Remix API is 64-bit only, which means that the game also must be built for 64-bit."

[vale gust]

so it doesn't work for Painkiller

[noble beacon]

Porno💀

[light palm]

doesnt look promising

[noble beacon]

we don't have enough david tokens in the whole world to make a 64bit painkiller.exe

🫡

Assault the PCF office and steal the source code

or wherever it is hiding now

[light palm]

huh... mine's different

derp ofc it is

u changed it lol

is this basically saying if height or width over 2048, throw error?

for lazy people
https://github.com/LaurieWired/GhidraMCP

[vale gust]

yeah

[light palm]

nice thing about llms are you can use them to do work for you
or, if you want to learn, use it as a tutor to ask questions
(if ur happy that ur tutor might go into idiot mode occasionally)

[light palm]

why would they bother though, if it doesn't actually matter

because no high res screens allowed

probably some reason for it

apparenly a lot of projects are crashing now, because startups used llms to get apps off the ground

and now theyre screwed once things start getting real, cos you arent familiar with the code and its wacky

ie pareto principle bites you in the ass

[vale gust]

to prevent an infinite loop I think

and they just set the value low thinking 4k won't be a thing

[light palm]

ah tru

[vale gust]

but now it is like 2 billion pixels, so it will work even on 128k resolution

[light palm]

future proof

[potent cedar]

im somewhere in the middle of this, but LLMs definitely helped fuel my interest in RE

[light palm]

it levels out the learning curve somewhat, until you get to the end of it haha

unless you use it only as a tutor

[noble beacon]

I wonder why there's no such feature as to apply different rtx.conf in the Alt+X menu. That would mean that at least some of the things that Remix API does are possible for 32-bit applications (?)

Like, when you want to load some specific level with some specific features to it (ie volumetrics), you choose "level rtx.conf" to load

[potent cedar]

yeah

[noble beacon]

Cumbersome and not user friendly, but

[light palm]

just find a 5gb code cave and put remix in there

[noble beacon]

@potent cedar does it make sense to you or am I spewing bullshit crap dog shit

[potent cedar]

yeah makes sense to me, xoxor4d did this with p2-rtx and i think l4d2-rtx

he also got the API working with 32-bit apps

[noble beacon]

@light palm

[potent cedar]

#1259520234105339974 message

[light palm]

Typical wizard shenenigans

thanks for the heads up CR, hope reignited

i love how the remix api readme is a broken link

how's this @noble beacon

[noble beacon]

It's much better now

The Ł is not consistent but maybe that's how it is in the original carving

[light palm]

original

[noble beacon]

Yeah I see now

[light palm]

side by side

[noble beacon]

It's good

[light palm]

ogorki kurwa kilbasa, all the polish i know

bloody good kilbasa in krakw

[noble beacon]

Just know that Ł is completely the same sound as W in English

Łin

[light palm]

then what does W sound like 😩

[noble beacon]

V

as in Vault

[light palm]

then what does V sound like

[noble beacon]

There's no V in polish

[light palm]

what is it against V

[noble beacon]

W

[light palm]

what is W's problem

all that mucking around to get rid of V

Wictory

[noble beacon]

Actually there is, but it's only for some foreign words

[light palm]

is it called Łindows 10

or just said as Vindows

V is less writing and less ink

more efficient

[noble beacon]

I believe it is pronounced Łindołs

[light palm]

good name for a linux based windows clone

[noble beacon]

It makes sense to be the case cause Polish have that very same sound

In Russian they call it Vindous indeed

for the lack of W sound

[light palm]

Hmm use for painkiller portals debug?
#1289195427119501424 message

[noble beacon]

I'm very curious to see if Remix API works

Do a simple test, like fallback light mentioned on Github

[light palm]

its a way off getting that to work, needs some serious implementation

[noble beacon]

I believe you don't have to come up with some crazy implementation to make the fallback light turn on and off, it's a mere sample

It would be useful to know that it does something

and then in like 30 years maybe we could use it

It's only a timer with no connection to the application mechanics if I understand correctly

(could be wrong bruh)

[light palm]

thing is you need to get the game to send those signals to remix

[light palm]

Hey mister Xtreme, do you know if its possible to fix broken character meshes in painengine/maya? for example, this enemy.
Looks fine in the original game, but the mesh itself is inside out on one side so it renders incorrectly in remix.

[noble beacon]

I can imagine what a head scratcher all these Remix issues are for the original game's modder when it kinda exposes all the weird underlying stuff that just works with shaders

[vale gust]

How does it look in Remix

[light palm]

one side is black

same issue in a few places

mostly on level meshes though which i know how to fix in 3d software

just havent done anything with skinned meshes through painEd/maya etc. though, thought i'd ask first

for example on castle there is a fireplace which is black

on cemetery in the room where the one screaming witch is which has an ammo crate in it, the ground under the fire is black

the hands on the statue in the big shiny room are black

(on atrium)

removing some shadows from textures for better pbr

[noble beacon]

I saw in https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1196836285545971712, great work!!!!!!

[light palm]

not perfect but should be an improvement

those gravestones you wanted 😛

[noble beacon]

Yeah I did indeed

They are kinda amusing to me, cause you find a lot of polish gravestones where I'm from

[vale gust]

you select the inverted faces and go to Mesh Display -> Reverse and have this option on

[light palm]

yeah its cool for static meshes

but is there anything special you have to do for skinned meshes?

[vale gust]

no

[light palm]

aight awesome 🙂

cheers

[noble beacon]

I almost forgot how beautiful Cemetery is

this is top tier stuff

Feels good to be able to use my PC again

[vale gust]

you use the phone as monitor?

[noble beacon]

Thank god no🙏 🙏 🙏

[light palm]

nice! how is it?

[noble beacon]

They didn't break it

And 165hz is great

The only thing is my table is too short so I'm sitting very close to the screen

makes me want to shove it like 10m away xdd

[light palm]

rotate table 90 degrees

😛

[noble beacon]

I'd destroy my fucking house

it's not a table per se, it's a large cabinet with a working space

This looks hilarious

gamer chair

[light palm]

is that ANOTHER FLOOFER

[noble beacon]

There's too many of them

[light palm]

that is the floofiest floof i have ever seen

[noble beacon]

You wanna see something beautiful

[light palm]

depends lol

[light palm]

if its a floofer, bring it on

[noble beacon]

[light palm]

eeeeeeeeew lol

wat dafuq is dat

[noble beacon]

Shit happens

quite literally

[light palm]

skidmark in the bath is better than skidmark not in the bath

is that patrycia?

patryks girlfriend

[noble beacon]

nice cock

[light palm]

looks a lot like a cat to me

[noble beacon]

Adelia, by law

We call her Adeline

[light palm]

i bet she doesn't get too cold in winter

[noble beacon]

Actually she does, she doesn't have a fur like the cat for example

It's all thin hair

so we got a little jacket

[noble beacon]

game "try and pick the most dangerous file infested with the most horrible viruses ever"

[vale gust]

plot twist, it is "Engine.dll"

[noble beacon]

Spot on

You ought to claim your reward now (the file)

only i would get banned from the server

[robust hollow]

i'm watching

[noble beacon]

@light palm You might find this useful

[light palm]

works!

[robust hollow]

oo nice

[light palm]

i read words, and did the thing the words said

[robust hollow]

one of the hardest things to do

[light palm]

ikr

[odd thicket]

Real, I can’t word words

[vale gust]

the ship with bad normals looks spicy

[light palm]

its minecraft ship

[vale gust]

what's with that red light, is the generator melting

[light palm]

just dont look at it

[vale gust]

what about the "you are not supposed to see this" secret

[noble beacon]

Real

[light palm]

shhhhh

[noble beacon]

My day ruined

Make a 3D remake

it's as easy as ingesting text from Blender into the toolkit

[dusk jasper]

i don't know why, but i did this

[dusk jasper]

whispering
(you still have opportunity to change David's name to mine)

[noble beacon]

For some reason I find it very funny

You probably too since eastern european brainrot should be familiar to you

[dusk jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-segal-carrot-healthy-food-gif-14637111

okay

[vale gust]

it's not semi-transparent, you failed me

[dusk jasper]

you saying it like i should know how much percent it should be semi-transparent

[vale gust]

like this one

[dusk jasper]

31%, got it

[dusk jasper]

the one that's brighter is full white crosshair

[vale gust]

hell yeah, now it is usable

[pallid saffron]

will the HUD be upscaled / reimagined? it sticks out so out of place in all those remixed screenshots 😄

[noble beacon]

You mean these screenshots?
#1313627595815911448 message

It looks wrecked because I didn't take time to recompile game's hardcoded resolution after plugging in new monitor

Normally it looks like this

[light palm]

Need blender PK plugins,

AD stuff too expensive

[vale gust]

I don't like Blender

and I know there is already one for .mpk

and Maya's coding is so compatible, I can compile it even for Maya 4.5 which released like 25 years ago

[noble beacon]

david when blender

[light palm]

@vale gust can I put .pkmdl files into Data/Models and they will be used, or do I have to pack them?

[vale gust]

you have to pack them

[light palm]

aight cheers

niice

all enemies shall now shine with the brightness of 1000 suns

[pallid saffron]

I was not targeting any particular screenshot, just globally, the HUD shows his age let's say, its very 2000 gaming era

[noble beacon]

I have no opinion on this, but if needed we could ||steal ||ask some modder to allow us to use their UI
Personally I like Fear Factor's UI. Health/Armor bars specifically

[vale gust]

no

[light palm]

would be cool to make our own

[light palm]

In swamp, I want the bubble and tentacles to have standard textures instead of shader
I tried editing the pkmdl and applying texture, modifying lua files, but no luck
any hints on how to achieve this

[vale gust]

In the .lua there are functions that apply the shader, remove them

[light palm]

hmm icommented those out, no change
even when i extracted all the .pak files and moved the .pak files elsewhere

so that i know its using my changed files

it's this stuff applying the shader?

maybe gotta change the mesh name

probably that

yep

[noble beacon]

While you're at it, any way to check if these use some shaders? They act sus

The texture that's outside the orphanage

The first texture shown in the vid but it's absent in Levels/C6L1_Orphanage so I don't know it's name (pulled from Remix Captures)

[light palm]

yeah its a strange one i think its something to do with opacity micromap in newer remix runtime

if you enable and disable that the problem disappears

disable and enable

turn off and on again

[noble beacon]

[dusk jasper]

you say that and then you get this shit

[dusk jasper]

the way alpha would look like

[dusk jasper]

pure blank

[dusk jasper]

and this

[vale gust]

you assumed that they know how to make a functional health bar

[noble beacon]

We assume that you'll fix

[dusk jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/learn-listen-to-him-you-hear-that-guy-learn-something-learn-from-him-gif-17629698

[noble beacon]

Don't worry mister we absolutely know what we're doing

Totally not hitting random buttons

[dusk jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-typing-hacking-computer-codes-gif-17417874

[noble beacon]

[vale gust]

or copying it from Fear Factor

[noble beacon]

Don't you like the good old tradition

Ctrl+C other's work

[vale gust]

what Painkiller 2025 did to Doom

[dusk jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/real-cap-captain-america-fight-shield-chris-evans-gif-6082481

don't remind me of that...

[noble beacon]

It's a good thing they've shown Electrodriver early in the trailer

Otherwise the whole thing would seem like a joke

Literally nothing from PK

[vale gust]

that was basically "change the homework so it is not the same"

and the only change

and think the teacher won't notice it

[noble beacon]

ChatGPT "Rephrase this article"

Work done

[vale gust]

I am still baffled how they are calling that "Purgatory" while it literally looks like stereotypical Hell

[noble beacon]

It looks like abstract Doom floating ruins all over again

[vale gust]

yeah, as if you couldn't do parkour or other Doom movement in a liminal city

[noble beacon]

i can almost imagine the Doom Eternal platforming

[noble beacon]

It's a great shame they scrapped the whole liminal concept

Purgatory environments are supposed to be familiar

it's like the very core of the IP

base

🫡

[vale gust]

and the Tarot cards also scrapped

now they are just renamed perk cards

borrowed from Back 4 Blood, Dead Island 2, a lot more games

[dusk jasper]

guys, i found new Painkiller screenshot

[vale gust]

unironically, looks more like Painkiller than the real one just because of the gun

[dusk jasper]

new one also brings some of classic guns, so its even

literally what new PK have from PK itself is a name and some of guns, that's it

[vale gust]

it also has souls that you go through them apparently

I don't even think they work, it would be funny if they scrap it

[dusk jasper]

okay, a name, some of guns, souls catch

[noble beacon]

Remember this?

It was a good day

[vale gust]

It seems like Painkiller is not the only one, Turok: Origins is same thing

apparently it even is 3rd person instead of 1st

I do believe Saber had an entirely different game in production and just bought Turok's IP

so they can name it Turok

same thing here, we made a Doom game, let's see what IP we can buy

[noble beacon]

It is more than possible

I can't really get off the top of my head, but there have absolutely been similar cases

[vale gust]

if that's the case, it is incredibly insulting

not only they stripped the possibility of an actual Painkiller game, they are also abusing Painkiller's name

[noble beacon]

And it's literally called "Painkiller"

Not Painkiller cndospelenfcbciwpwmw2endrnd or something

What a blow

The only hope is that it's not a bad game at least

[vale gust]

what does that solve

we don't get anything from that either way

[noble beacon]

Well maybe that way the IP won't be buried forever as cursed

Maybe we'll get a remake at some point

proper remake

[vale gust]

it is better if it fails, maybe it forces them to sell the IP

[dusk jasper]

i guess they decided to bury those two franchises forever with those copro coop shooters, the thing they were TOTALLY not known for

after Origins, i'm sure people will praise that 2008 game

[vale gust]

but for "Turok: Origins" they didn't have the balls to call it "Turok"

[noble beacon]

It seems to me the IP won't likely to survive another failure lol

No success since BooH

20 years of misery

perhaps some chinese conglomerate like Tencent will buy it and we'll get a multiplayer focused Painkiller game with malware

Like Delta Force (2025)

Fuck I love Delta Force Black Hawk Down

I was excited to learn that this game features remade campaign of Black Hawk Down only to get disappointed over the freakin viruses

only i have the right to put viruses in my favourite games

[noble beacon]

So Mr David, Remix mod is your best chance to preserve the legacy

Get a PC ASAP and get to work !!!!!!

Somehow I believe that if David worked on the mod personally he'd be like "what the fuck have you been doing all this time" and fixes everything in a day

[vale gust]

Painkiller had a legacy of good performance, this mod ain't keeping it

[noble beacon]

The issue will resolve itself soon

Next Gen arrives in like 2 years so

[vale gust]

next gen will drop 32 bit application support

[noble beacon]

We'll see

It can't be all for nothing lol

[jolly lichen]

Don't let me ruin it by telling you it's based off the movie and not the original game lol

[noble beacon]

This is madness

Imagine a game based off the fucking Postal movie

[vale gust]

what's the Postal movie about

[noble beacon]

Osama bin Laden

The film's final shot features George W. Bush and bin Laden skipping through a field together, hand-in-hand. As mushroom clouds explode on the horizon, bin Laden laughs and says, "Georgie, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship". At that moment, all of the nuclear missiles hit, and the country, and possibly the world is destroyed.

[dusk jasper]

the movie is awesome

[noble beacon]

You are not gonna believe WHAT i found in Cemetery

Painkiller myths and legends

[light palm]

Patryk 😄

[pallid saffron]

did you make that up or it was really there?

[noble beacon]

you never know

[noble beacon]

https://youtu.be/HpGQaUZ5Qzs?si=OscHfWFA7E2UTh99

[light palm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/painkiller-rtx-remix/downloads/painkiller-rtx-v016-base

[noble beacon]

Heaps good mate

Actually I loved this one, it's special colour made perfect sense

How it illuminated secret areas like something holy and of high value

[light palm]

ALREADY COMPLAINING 😄

[noble beacon]

YEE

[light palm]

yeah i liked the blue better too, gonna change it back

i thought the red green would look blue

but that didnt work

[noble beacon]

definitely not lol

[vale gust]

good thing you fixed it, the blue light confused me and it was not immersive

[noble beacon]

Sry can't hear ya what are you sayin?

Aight nvm

[vale gust]

are you aware that red and green makes yellow, not even blue

[noble beacon]

it's purgatory

and megahealth

[vale gust]

are you trying to turn the original Painkiller into Doom as well

[noble beacon]

Yes this is our intent you've been fooled

[light palm]

Poomdiller

[noble beacon]

Poopeater

🫡

[light palm]

That's Adelia

[noble beacon]

This?

[noble beacon]

Or this

You're right either way btw

[light palm]

Floofer

[noble beacon]

Sigma gallery

[light palm]

Mod works for you? fingers crossed

[noble beacon]

can't tell being in 🚾

[light palm]

wireless keyboard

[noble beacon]

will check soon

[noble beacon]

Heaps good👍

Fresh game install + Painkiller RTX v0.1.6 Base

[vale gust]

now we don't have glass as well

a man can't have anything in this game

[noble beacon]

i don't think we have anything anymore

@light palm what kind of poopeater you made me download

[light palm]

working as intended!

bit strange, maybe theres something in the chapters thats also needed

shouldnt have been

did I put the files in the wrong place

[noble beacon]

Why does Base have Loonypark textures

[light palm]

fak i did put them in the wrong place

wait

that makes no sense i tested

[noble beacon]

[light palm]

lol i didnt even put the chapter 1 textures in there

good job, me

ez to fix i just change instructions 😛

[noble beacon]

Loonypark works hey

Win

[light palm]

from "base includes chapter 1" to download that pack yo

yeah not fully

but somewhat

the chapter 1 textures will have to come in the chapter 1 pack

[vale gust]

skill issue

[noble beacon]

usual drill

you can't have skill without issue

[light palm]

there should be a couple of chapter packs up already

chapter 4 pack up in a few mins

[noble beacon]

A different kind of malware in each

Why don't we stop sending viruses to each other

[robust hollow]

what is it with you guys and viruses

some kind of fetish?

[noble beacon]

tradition

[light palm]

that would explain it 😛

[noble beacon]

well once upon a time i sent a terrible fukin virus as a joke and now they upload them every single time as a retaliation

and i have to download it and test it

(don't worry guys it's completely safe it only targets my specific serial numbers to explode)

[light palm]

thats some james bond stuff right there

[noble beacon]

that's why i needed to "fix my house" a while ago

and get a new monitor

I like how it's "💀 "

[light palm]

yep 😛

[noble beacon]

Deadly files

[light palm]

so much new stuff in this release

asylum looks better

[noble beacon]

I don't see "Adjusted Coins lighting" in the changelog

It should be like "Removed Herobrine" every patch

[light palm]

heheh

made the flames torches more moving on Atrium

better materials on the boss guy in Cathedral

some lighting improvements on opera

and fixed some lighting on town

swamp bubbles are improved, swamp still looks bad though, needs work

factory lights should be better

the displacement values are a bit messed up though. long story

military base much better lighting

the boss guy on ruins got better materials

palace and babel better lighting

tried to make the rtx skin better on alastor on Tower

city on water and docks should have animated water

that weird fence with hole in it should be fixed, i think it was displacement values

dead city still slow to load

stone pit much improved

[noble beacon]

that's all very good, but how many assignments you've completed since v015

should include PhD changes in changelogs

[light palm]

working on my remix phd

[noble beacon]

@vale gust

[vale gust]

fictional gun casually floating near the knee

[noble beacon]

it's purgatory

[noble beacon]

Bike reaction

It appears to me David you must add a BMX as well

and cool bunnyhop

Bonus gold for wheelie

A better version

to clear your any remaining doubts

leaked design document

[vale gust]

how does he drive the motorcycle with his leg amputated

[noble beacon]

It kept putting this fucking gun there

so i had to amputate everything with it

nvm he doesn't even need a leg to drive

[vale gust]

yeah sure I can add a motorcycle and amputate Daniel's leg at the same time

[noble beacon]

it's WASD anyway

[light palm]

glass attached
https://www.moddb.com/mods/painkiller-rtx-remix/downloads/painkiller-rtx-v016-chapter-1

[noble beacon]

HOLY SHIT HE ADDED IT

🤯

[vale gust]

did the Painkiller turn into a mace

[noble beacon]

So you added a motorcycle but not gas

AI was a mistake

[light palm]

now the blood stains are more reflective and the dark area in the hood less reflective

now with 50% more disgusting

[vale gust]

So what you are telling me is that you added specular maps

[light palm]

basically

but hand crafted

now if i can figure out this SSS stuff, things could start looking REALLY good

[vale gust]

pkmdl already supported normals with specular maps

[light palm]

and now we have possibility for SSS!

i think there may be issues with using it if the models are not closed though

[light palm]

Subsurface Scattering

do you know if it's possible to modify the skinned meshes David?

to add polygons to close any "holes"

[vale gust]

you sound like you never touched skinned meshes

skinned meshes just have influences per vertex

nothing more than regular meshes

[light palm]

have not touched them yet no

sounds like we could do a lot with them, if they're editable through painengine

[vale gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HktZRRC5z2w

[light palm]

i heard something on one of the painkiller forums that noone knew how to put in a new monster

something about missing conversion tools or something

yeah i know how to do skinning and animation

i just didnt try yet

on painkiller

[vale gust]

you hear people having skill issue

they are talking how you need Havok Content Tools to create .hke

and that's proprietary to Microsoft

[light palm]

ahhhhh that's what it was

so what does that mean that you cant create .hke

cant make ragdolls or something?

[vale gust]

.hke is collision and ragdoll

just delete the .hke files from your models folder and see

[light palm]

ok so you can modify existing skinned meshes as long as it uses the same collision and ragdoll as existing?

just not give stuff extra limbs or whatever that have collision and ragdoll?

[vale gust]

do not change mesh's name or joints' name, this also include adding or removing more of them

but you can add vertices to the meshes

[light palm]

as long as you make sure those vertices are skinned properly too

[vale gust]

yeah, you have to set their influences to the respective joint

just look at the neighbouring vertices and copy them

and Pain Engine has a limit of 4 influences per vertex so don't do more

[noble beacon]

Some odd accumulation going on?

I don't think it's intended

Happens to souls too

[vale gust]

turn off DLSS

[noble beacon]

Nope, still

So it's not caused by the Ray Reconstruction

[noble beacon]

Nice touch that you made a faithful flashlight, that preview version you sent before was too bright

[light palm]

yeah i tweaked it to make more accurate

[noble beacon]

Abandoned Factory seems overly bright, it's totally different time of day

[light palm]

thats neural radiance cache. It's treating the particles as emissive, and caching the light
you can turn off particle emissiveness in the main options

[light palm]

it's mostly because of atmospherics not being adjustable per level right now. Try increasing atmosphere height, see what happens

actually..

that works in tandem with Legacy fog remapping

[noble beacon]

noice

Alastor is great, only that he looks covered in shit sometimes

[light palm]

this is just with fog changes

it's a pain because each level is at a different "height" in world space, which affects how the atmosphere height affects the scene

also if i have done a capture, trying to balance the lighting in the toolkit is heavily based on the fog settings at the time of capture

[noble beacon]

Also an old thing, but still worth to mention. In Cathedral only Eastern windows cast shadows, cause that's where the sun is

you would expect some shadows from the western side too

i guess

[light palm]

2 suns?

[noble beacon]

I couldn't find no indirect shadows setting

Only Translucent one

[light palm]

there is an indirect translucent thing

[noble beacon]

doesn't seem to change anything here

[light palm]

likely as there isnt much light coming through them

you could change the
float inputs:thin_wall_thickness = 1
lines in
PKRTX_C1L4_Cathedral_Materials.usda
to a lower value like 0.1

that lets more light through

[noble beacon]

fuck .

we won't mention this

All levels work with all chapters combined

[noble beacon]

had to get up from the PC and move some furniture IRL to see how shadows work xdd

[noble beacon]

would it be wise to open each level in Editor/Maya or whatever and Ctrl+A everything to adjust the Z position before doing any further lighting work?

[light palm]

probably yea

[vale gust]

your map may crash if you move zones and portals too far away from 0,0,0

portals have a 0.00001 tolerance so if you move it away, you lose floating point precision and risk crashing

[light palm]

want to move it closer to 0,0,0

for example on swamp

ground is way above 0,0,0

[vale gust]

also, when you are moving objects, I do not recommend moving them like that

because you are moving the transform and because of floating point precision problems, portals will throw some errors in Pain Editor

you have to select faces mode and move it like that

about every PCF level has this problem as well

that's how delicate portals are

[light palm]

i see that. all meshes have origin at 0 basically

[vale gust]

yeah, mpk overrwrites the transform to 0

if you move it, you may lose precision when exporting

[noble beacon]

how do i turn off Portal occlusion in The Last of Us 2

[vale gust]

you find the basement lord of The Last of Us 2 and ask him

[light palm]

Fixed basically all of the particle effects, it is a huge improvement. Feels like performance is better as well, not sure on that.
Many of the particle textures were tga or bmp files, or malformed dds files with inconsistent coloring or alpha, causing a variety of issues.
Give it a try, I have not tested everything, but I like it so far!

[vale gust]

how more exactly you fixed it

[light palm]

you will have to re-tag as particles, or use this rtx.conf:

[noble beacon]

Alt+X -> Ignore Texture

[light palm]

for example, this texture has grey all the way to the edges in the rgb channels, which was causing hard and overbright edges on particles in remix.
also was in tga format which is not as easy for GPUs to handle.

Here is the corrected version:

the electro gun looks way better, and a lot of effects that use this particle.
I also put in place a fix for the overbright blood particles, i think it looks a lot better. There are still issues with it though!

[light palm]

Process was to decompose and inspect the channels in Gimp:

[noble beacon]

So you made up that cool story to sneak your rtx.conf with Ignored particles in

hence the performance uplift

[light palm]

lol just noticed this

what language is that

and why is my gimp in that language

Channels were like this

basically duplicated the alpha channel to the RGB channels and then adjusted the color using curves after re-combining

ends up looking like this

then saved out as BC3 dds format, many were in BC2 format before which had uninterpolated alpha. That looked a bit like this:

[vale gust]

so you are telling me you increased the file size by double

[light palm]

meant to look like this

[light palm]

about 1mb smaller for the whole directory, even with 3 additional particle textures

[noble beacon]

Is that ass weird vapor raising out of nowhere in Atrium?

Looked bad indeed

[light palm]

yeah im going to remove that totally i think, still doesnt look amazing

i want to keep the rain though

still a LOT better than it was

[vale gust]

did you fart in Atrium Complex

what does the fart mechanic help with

[light palm]

Could be a good mechanic to implement, repels enemies?

the electro particle looks a lot better. also on alastor2

[noble beacon]

Displacement on this Atrium floor looks almost gross

smudgy mold

[light palm]

Mister Polish you are our defacto screenshotter, where are our new screenshots? I'll even fix lighting on factory

you have best GPU lol

[noble beacon]

I'm in 🚾

[light palm]

thin client laptop mount on wall

no excuses

[noble beacon]

Or a "toilet" button from South Park

To summon it

[light palm]

factory in toolkit looks a tad less bright than in game

i think i know whats going on

i think the fog translation, which changes the fog settings in game based on how the level has it set, isnt applied in toolkit

[wet shuttle]

crazy stuff

most impressive rtx project so far

[noble beacon]

I'm planning on making a large set of screenshots today. Could be useful for promotion

[light palm]

Awesome! Thank you sir 🙂
I tried to fix factory anyhow

I honestly dont know how to match the lighting exactly though without deleting all of the background scenery or something

some of the particles werent tagged in the last rtx.conf
Here's one optimised for screenshots, it has accumulation mode enabled and camera jitter for accumulation antialiasing

[noble beacon]

Painkiller RTX Screenshots
(they may not reflect the current state of the project)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1RQlSwGk13DGZ8Z6i1akjtcxfW_ZLmDgx?usp=sharing

ModDB page [DOWNLOAD]
https://www.moddb.com/mods/painkiller-rtx-remix

1st chapter
will be updating

Cemetery is a banger, looks like an actual finished project

[light palm]

NIIIIIIIIIIIIICE

@noble beacon https://www.moddb.com/mods/painkiller-rtx-remix/downloads/painkiller-rtx-v016-smooth-meshes-pack

[noble beacon]

700mb is reasonable i'd say

could be included in the base file

[light palm]

it zipped up REALLY well, i thought something went wrong

extracts to 8.5 gb

unless something DID go wrong 😄

to be fair, most of the files contain the same repeated text, so lots of opportunities for compression

i want to try that RTX zip thingo that hl2rtx used

[noble beacon]

delete this

david mustn't know

[light palm]

rofl

those cemetery screenshots look MAD

i already fixed the shitty moon though 😄

[noble beacon]

Yeah it's genuinely crazy

you'd always expect some heavily WIP material from Remix mods

and then you have this

[light palm]

this IS heavily WIP 😄

we havent even put in any replacement assets or proper materials really

[noble beacon]

i know but it looks nuts

[light palm]

we can easily swap out all of the meshes with much better ones

and put in plants and stuff

anything we want

[noble beacon]

Cemetery is a very good environment for showcase

swag

[light palm]

sure is!

we need to stash some easter eggs ( NO NSFW MISTER )

[noble beacon]

Moom

[light palm]

like jensen jacket or something

[noble beacon]

patryk everywhere

[light palm]

that, would be possible 🙂

gotta 3d scan patryk

you can turn this up if you need more samples

are you using the screenshot conf ?

[noble beacon]

If i have 15FPS in 1440p Native, how long must I wait for 8000 frames

[light palm]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-one-billion-mike-meyers-austin-powers-hehe-gif-11108917

[noble beacon]

I wasn't but did use accumulation

[light palm]

i turned on some other super secret quality settings in the screenshot conf

trust me bruh

turn this on for FPS boost

(not FPS boost 😄 )

oh shit the models pack breaks the animated water

kinda cool accumulating frames on the fountain to get that soft water look

[noble beacon]

How do I CHANGE WELCOME TO RTX MESSAGE

[light palm]

ez

[noble beacon]

I wanted to change it to "patryk peepee poopoo" and say "Ah yes that's what kind of rtx.conf you've given me"

😭

[light palm]

rtx.gui.hudMessageAnimatedDotDurationMilliseconds
int 1000
A duration in milliseconds between each dot in the animated dot sequence for HUD messages. Must be greater than 0.
These dots help indicate progress is happening to the user with a bit of animation which can be configured to animate at whatever speed is desired.

best option

rtx.hideSplashMessage
bool False
A flag to disable the splash message indicating how to use Remix from appearing when the application starts.
When set to true this message will be hidden, otherwise it will be displayed on every launch.

rtx.splashMessageDisplayTimeSeconds
int 20
The amount of time in seconds to display the Remix splash message for.

rtx.welcomeMessage
string
Display a message to the user on startup, leave empty if no message is to be displayed.

[noble beacon]

It displays this window

But how to change the message in the upper left corner

[light palm]

maybe it's in here
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/blob/main/RtxOptions.md

[noble beacon]

aargh

lame

see how you do it

@potent cedar Hey CR, I think I've seen a custom "Welcome to RTX Remix" message in your Garry's Mod. Could you please tell us how to do a similar thing?

[potent cedar]

https://github.com/sambow23/dxvk-remix-gmod/commit/d6fc548344cd01bbc451128b309b8804632bf0df#diff-abed281dc1ae7f2dcce56f609df6de21a4f3156dc02d492be474b850a26b7702R88

I edited the hardcoded string, but i think the rtx.conf can also specify it?

oh nvm

[noble beacon]

Apparently it cannot

Thank you

[noble beacon]

Hey folks, may I ask you to pin this message please?

Also check out the screenies if interested, this pack will be getting updated

[light palm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiA6XpRaIkI

[noble beacon]

Orange

[light palm]

Correct

[vale gust]

https://x.com/i/status/1913002906099519724

Painkiller (@painkillergame_) on X

📌 Get to the point.

Wishlist now: https://t.co/eIyO6wi9vF

X · Apr 17, 2025, 10:53 PM

this looks so bad

[odd thicket]

Can't wait to revisit Painkiller RTX on my RTX 5060 TI

[noble beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-upset-star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-gif-19823085

[potent cedar]

traitor

[noble beacon]

I think it looks good tbh

[noble beacon]

blasphemy

[noble beacon]

Ok

Doesn't change my opinion

[vale gust]

which part of it is it good:

• the fact the aim was way off and it still got pinned
• the stake disappearing when it hits it
• it going into T-Pose as soon as it gets pinned
• Ragodll glitching into the wall

[noble beacon]

See that's stuff I enjoy, goofy jank, I understand why it's not enjoyable to others but I find it funny

@light palm Hey hey
So good sir @austere zealot provided about 50GB() of upscaled Painkiller movies. I think some of these could be implemented as is, namely intros. Also the quality improvement of the actual cutscenes is quite impressive, so if smartly compressed it would be great.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1fC0nveLdJ45mUyqyBUePAobJiN434-eo

[noble beacon]

Mind you I also find bf2042 fun

[pallid saffron]

Wait already 4 chapters done?

Actually what is chapter 6, the expansion?

[light palm]

Awesome thanks @austere zealot !

[light palm]

zero chapters actually done, but all are playable with preliminary lighting and textures

[light palm]

ohhh thats nice

[noble beacon]

Yes, 10 levels of Battle out of Hell

[vale gust]

are scrapped levels included as well?

[noble beacon]

then maybe we want multiplayer levels as well

Unexpected Painkiller Redemption RTX

[vale gust]

is the A00_Test.dat map from 1.1 PL and 1.15 specifically included as well?

[noble beacon]

PlayerActionMotorcycle will be included

[north kiln]

Painkiller RTX v0.1.6 Abandonned Factory

[noble beacon]

My child over there!!

[north kiln]

Ha ha the original Painkiller is one of the games of my heart when i have learn the existence of Painkiller RTX project in addition of Painkiller 2025 i have flip in the air

And Painkiller RTX made impressive progress i love discovered the updates when they are release and at level like The Palace the cathedral or Atrium the balance of lights & shadow are perfect at the v0.1.6

[noble beacon]

Yeah. If only the upcoming Painkiller was as good as this project

we discussed it

long story short, everyone hated it

[north kiln]

Painkiller 2025 will probably not have the vide of the original game but compare Ressurection or Redemption the game look pretty okey. and i think The devs want do careful and see if the IP have still his public before decide to made a real Painkiller 2 or not.

The succes of Painkiller 2025 will decide of the future of the franchise. in my opinion it deserve his chance

[noble beacon]

Some prominent community members think it would not be a good thing if this game succeded

We don't get Painkiller either way

The problem is, this new game is missing the point

OG Painkiller was all about familiar liminal spaces you roam in the Purgatory

The new one is all abstract Doom floating ruins

the very core is lost

[north kiln]

yes we mostly see this in hell at the original painkiller but at the purgatory it's mostly like a upside down version of our world. familiar place but very dead

My personal tier list of painkillers games

[noble beacon]

Exactly

Yet even Hell was a front line frozen in time

[north kiln]

yes it's something i have find pretty original all conflict of human history frozen to the war of 100 years to the atomic bomb all frozen in a same place

After it's was probably one of the many levels we will have. we will see in mean time when the game will be here.

[noble beacon]

until then, we have plenty of time to rant

[north kiln]

Pestifer Town v0.1.6

[north kiln]

Cathedral v0.1.6

[dusk jasper]

The image above is AI generation guys, was testing fields, wanted to look how Daniel Garner could look like in pose from 2005's Constantine movie poster, not gonna lie, i like result

[north kiln]

oops i have made it crash

[light palm]

dang 😛

it's sometimes safer to type values in (if possible) to the remix dev options than to drag the sliders for some reason

[noble beacon]

I think it's due to some sliders not being scaled properly

You're supposed to change a value by a margin, but when you touch the slider it sets it to 349823489023904 or something

Also some buttons just crash the 0.1.6 packaged runtime, like that Volumetrics Apply button in the vid

same goes for the NRC dropdown

[light palm]

huh... works on my machine?

[noble beacon]

You've probably updated the Runtime since 0.1.6

let me check the latest one

[light palm]

that could be the case

[light palm]

something looks wrong with your install, maybe residual previous version files still

or maybe framerate dependence

[north kiln]

i must remove everything and re install all?

[light palm]

generally what I do is keep an "untouched" painkiller install
and then copy that folder to install mods onto

the base install is only about 3 gigs

if there is more than 1 folder in painkiller/bin/rtx-remix/mods
then you have a problem. There should be only 1 folder there, called "pkrtx" iirc

[noble beacon]

The same behaviour on the latest Bridge and Runtime

Did you install the Hotfix driver by any chance?

[light palm]

im on 576.02

[noble beacon]

Same

You sure it works on your machine? 😄

[light palm]

oh yeah

its a known bug in remix

if you hit apply when* the top option is selected

it will crash

if you actually select an option, like heavy fog

it doesnt crash

[noble beacon]

Yeah

[north kiln]

all seem to be in order

[noble beacon]

doesn't work on any machine

[noble beacon]

You're good, just some Remix shenanigans

someone's ChatGPT commit

[light palm]

oh yeah and actually clicking that NRC drop down does crash for me as well

so actually doesnt work on my machine

[light palm]

Chatty G

https://tenor.com/view/amy-poehler-thug-thug-life-hoodie-gif-5080826

https://tenor.com/view/memes-risitas-laughing-lmao-lol-gif-11500030

[noble beacon]

Well it's not a lie

[light palm]

9999999999999999999 health or something

[vale gust]

that's Mutant Nemo Immortal's health, Vamp Master has a measly 99999

[light palm]

what you dont have to kill the nemos?

[noble beacon]

Easy. Spam CTRL

[vale gust]

you don't have to kill them

[light palm]

i thought you had to jump up into a corner and autohotkey ctrl for 3 weeks

https://tenor.com/view/trololo-edvard-khil-hello-smile-gif-14140145

[vale gust]

you can jump in a corner and let him take damage from Painkiller's beam

[light palm]

brick on keyboard

oh wait dont need

[noble beacon]

noob

[light palm]

/facepalm

i noticed some people seems quite negative about this mod

particularly other painkiller modders

[vale gust]

what mod?

[light palm]

~~all ~~ one of them 🤣

[noble beacon]

You know how it goes. Never mention Remix outside of RTX Remix Showcase Discord

[vale gust]

well, don't have much to comment, if the mod crashes, then it gets people annoyed

especially when you make "unofficial patch" and the game crashes because of it

[light palm]

i just find it amusing, if there is some commenter who is particularly negative

you can almost always track them back to some other painkiller modding community 🤣

no idea why tbh

[north kiln]

i think i have touch at something i shouldn't

[light palm]

oh nice, it's destructible terrain!

feature!

[noble beacon]

I tried advertising this mod in VK where the largest PK community is, and there were messages like "Why are you embracing the lazy devs approach not caring about optimization"

[vale gust]

the real annoying thing is me looking at other PK modder's code

it is mostly garbage

[light palm]

only pro senior software engineers can mod painkiller

or else

[noble beacon]

And it was the guy listed in the mod's credits

The problem is people usually don't have a clue what Remix is

[vale gust]

and this was written this month

[light palm]

not caring about optimisation.. generally optimisation is done after things are working

get it working with simple approach first

[noble beacon]

You can't really do anything to make Pathtracing work on older machines

It is what it is

[light palm]

sure, if you already know a more optimal simple approach, go for it

[vale gust]

they are talking how you use RTX Remix parasitic approach instead of adding Raytracing into the engine

[robust hollow]

and yet it makes little difference

[light palm]

zactly

[light palm]

ahh so "implement pathtracer from scratch" or gtfo

great way to build a modding community

[noble beacon]

I think the very term of RT is still being seen like some gimmick by masses

[light palm]

be insular and hostile

[noble beacon]

It will change in time

[vale gust]

There was a guy that said that 4GB patch was used by "oligophrenics", 2 months latter he added it into his mod because it kept crashing without it

[light palm]

whats an oligofrens lol

do i even wanna know

[vale gust]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/oligophrenic

[light palm]

i wouldnt mind trying to readd it

[noble beacon]

Division of Satan

I've read the whole thread on PKRC

It's madness

[vale gust]

lol

[light palm]

ahh "subnormal mental development"

[vale gust]

yeah, example of people that know nothing of PK

and claim they know the engine

[noble beacon]

Mf claims that Redemption is the best PK game because "challenge"

[light palm]

i would instead advocate for encouraging others to get involved, particulary beginner modders

everyone has to start somewhere

[noble beacon]

http://pkrc.ru/news/painkiller_division_of_satan/2024-12-31-199

This case could be studied

Write a PhD

[vale gust]

damn, they can't bypass the pictures

[light palm]

yeah that oligophrenic word was something i hadnt heard before

kudos for vocab, not for sentiment

[vale gust]

now we can use oligophren instead of r word

[light palm]

not a phrase i tend to need

[light palm]

you can always just copy the "rtx.conf" file from the mod zip to reset your RTX settings back to mod defaults

[noble beacon]

Or use this in case you've deleted the zip

(don't mind the "old" part)

rename it to rtx.conf

[light palm]

Did i post the updated particles ?

i think i did

[noble beacon]

This one

But it is also optimized for screenshots

[light palm]

enable reference mode volumetrics in that one?

1 fps 😄

[noble beacon]

This setting doesn't save

Many settings do not save

[light palm]

i've been putting things in dxvk.conf

[noble beacon]

Yeah it's the way

[light palm]

makes it easier, then ppl can just delete their rtx.conf if they want to reset settings

[noble beacon]

Put rtx.enableVsync=0 in dxvk.conf to disable annoying Vsync if it troubles you every launch

[light palm]

i use vsync because variable refresh rate

[vale gust]

vsync slows down loading time

[noble beacon]

Remix overrides game's own Vsync implementation

or is it happening with Remix Vsync?

[vale gust]

I don't know if it happens with Remix VSync, I know it happens with VSync

[noble beacon]

is it framerate dependent or the ingame Vsync option specifically is wrecked?

don't think i can observe any difference in loading times using Remix's Vsync option (165hz)

[noble beacon]

if latter, should not be a problem, as it is overridden

[north kiln]

Yeeeee it's have fix

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-bnuuy-bed-hyper-gif-25445957

question. in the rtx remix option we have an option to made less or more intense the volumetrics directly ingame?

[noble beacon]

yeah, you can play with these parameters

and some other

[north kiln]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/404840637834461186/1145307706127822959/He_Came_Back.gif

thanks i will try these!

[noble beacon]

Atmosphere height is also important

And you can configure Dust particles as well

[north kiln]

i have play a bit with

something i love to do when i work at my artworks at Blender it'(s made god ray's with volumetrics. it's a personal feel but i would love see more god ray's like that at some level of painkiller rtx. god ray's are very atmospheric.

[dusk jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-awkward-gif-20874314

Arts cool, but creature on it....i dunno

[north kiln]

i understand furry's artwork is not your cup of tea it was to show an exemple of volumetric light

[dusk jasper]

yeah, of course

[dusk jasper]

addition

[noble beacon]

Very nice @dusk jasper

If you could make his skin a little less specular, it would be great

this trait is quite common for AI generated images of people

[dusk jasper]

maybe not so great implementation, but here is nonetheless

[noble beacon]

Yeah it's better this way

[north kiln]

it's important to not forget the original studio have send us that banger in 2004

[dusk jasper]

never will

[north kiln]

In 2005 the game was release at the first Xbox https://youtu.be/KlfC5F4JXME?si=55CQIKS7PW9ys276&t=331

A ps2 and psp version has be planify but cancelled ( probably technical reason ).
nothing about a potential gamecube version if it was in the program or not

[noble beacon]

The most important thing

We must never forget this:

[dusk jasper]

All right, I'm going to go for a kind of stakes.

[north kiln]

The Prison
v0.1.6

[north kiln]

need these covers for a official release at steam

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-parrott-bird-crazy-bird-funny-bird-gif-17817848345755955439

[dusk jasper]

There'll be one problem: those are AI generated (even if with some handmade edit), and when people might notice it, they'll freaking hate it

[noble beacon]

Yes

But on the other hand what could you expect from a free mod

[dusk jasper]

Tbh yeah

Well....other than than just reuse official asset like i did before with using Black Edition asset

[odd thicket]

Need a Steam release

https://tenor.com/view/rimuru-tempest-rimuru-slime-pray-clap-gif-22127762

[noble beacon]

It's a very long shot

I'd like it to meet some quality standards

if released on Steam

[north kiln]

yeees. plus to apply updates and fixes it's will be more easy for the team

[noble beacon]

But at the end of the day so much bullshit gets released on Steam everyday so...

[north kiln]

it must have the greenlight of 3d realm and people can fly for steam publication?

[noble beacon]

@odd thicket would know better

People Can Fly has nothing to do with Painkiller btw

[dusk jasper]

In theory publisher's agreement might be enough

[dusk jasper]

(continuing my message above) Because of that, they have no more control over Painkiller after Xbox port

[odd thicket]

Yeah it would be publisher: Prime Matter

[noble beacon]

meaning Plaion

[dusk jasper]

Koch Media (renamed to Plaion), owners of THQ Nordic

[noble beacon]

Plaion is former Koch Media

[dusk jasper]

I know

Still prefer their old name tbh

[noble beacon]

So you do need publisher's leave to post a free mod on Steam that requires original game?

[dusk jasper]

Logically yes

[odd thicket]

Anything not a source game, yes, you need some form of proof that it’s allowed

[north kiln]

Cemetery v0.1.6
i have up a bit the bitrate to a better image

[north kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/the-incredibles-syndrome-oh-come-on-you-gotta-admit-this-is-cool-this-is-cool-cool-gif-25188857

[odd thicket]

I will fight any company I need to

https://tenor.com/view/knight-xbox-gaming-elder-scrolls-games-gif-27629886

[north kiln]

City on Water v0.1.6

[dusk jasper]

@light palm

[light palm]

Nice! Thank you 🙂

[noble beacon]

Who is this

What did you do to Binq Adams

[north kiln]

They are became a fluff ball

[north kiln]

How ray tracing is born at video games https://youtu.be/bxientPsqRg?si=LAC_Q8-94VsDHEYW bake gi still used today

[north kiln]

Catacombs v0.1.6
i have customize a bit the intensity of dust particules of volumetric and blooms

But at the entrance of the level i must send the rocks in Rock conaissance https://youtu.be/SJfH-8Am29U?si=TRuBb_sbrCJJfCeO&t=21

[north kiln]

i begin to have fun to custom some volumetric propriety's

[noble beacon]

Btw you can change FOV in config.ini

[light palm]

annoucement: it works to put the level lua and Clevel in the data, and edit the fog values in Clevel!
per level fog control achieved

[light palm]

that looks nice!

i was thinking town and leningrad need more smoke

considering everything is ON FIRE

[noble beacon]

This is big, but how does it work exactly?

Is it any different to Remix volumetrics or

or it is legacy fog remapping thing

[light palm]

exactly

have legacy fog remapping enabled

and modify the legacy fog

[noble beacon]

Yeaahh

Good find

[light palm]

woot woot!

basically the whole game has had pretty much everything done
except for HL2RTX level asset and materials

lighting is what I mostly have been working on

[vale gust]

this Adams is a bit sus

[north kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-excited-jumping-dancing-bird-gif-18035227026907573309

[light palm]

you can change in console too

just type FOV 90 or whatever

i think

[noble beacon]

Yeah kinda sus vibe

is it really him

[light palm]

IT ME 😛

[north kiln]

i have put 90

[vale gust]

let me check

how do you set TNL in Painkiller

[light palm]

+hwlevel tnl i think

hang on

[vale gust]

it's +hwclass

imposter

[light palm]

thats right

[noble beacon]

I freakin knew