Portal 2

[rough ginkgo]

looks like a early UE3 game

i found it looked most natural at 0.5, high emissive stuff will still stand out

[analog copper]

do they not convert

[rough ginkgo]

most of portal 2's level lights are either CSM or env_projectedtexture's iirc

which arent handled at all by remix

[analog copper]

i see

[kind lance]

Has anyone contacted Gabe Newell about it? Don't flood him but isn't he known for going through emails a bunch

[blissful fulcrum]

There is no CSM in Portal 2, there are only env_projectedtextures including for the "sun" shadows

[summer furnace]

how do you remove it :(

bro dont 💀 me i wanted to play co-op with a friend online

[red panther]

Co-Op don't work gng

READ

it'll due you well

belive me

I got experence with not reading

It dosen't go well 110% of the time

[summer furnace]

i knowwww

im trying to fix it

[buoyant venture]

We all had to learn how to read 😔

[summer furnace]

i know portal 2 co-op dont work but i wanna know anyway

my portals dont show the other side anymore (i deleted and reinstalled the game)

[winged wind]

Eye Adaptation ON vs OFF, btw this looks georgeous

[summer furnace]

... thats portal 1, this is portal 2 section

[winged wind]

yeah but its portal related, that's why i posted here

[thin geode]

but 1 + 2 = 3

so that's portal 3

[summer furnace]

nvm, i fixed it

[red panther]

shit I thought you were talking about co-op

idek why

[summer furnace]

i was but still

both

[red panther]

that shit just poped into my mind

[red panther]

We offically beat valve to it

[red panther]

so hold on, what exactly are you asking

[summer furnace]

i fixed it nvm

[scarlet dome]

Daily reminder why I can't stand Steam's forced auto-updates.

[drifting temple]

(you can turn them off. Just letting u know)

[scarlet dome]

Only per-game, not at a global steam level

[wild geyser]

Can someone please help me, I have tried to install the remix mod, I have an issue posted on the GitHub with the logs and photos of the crash report. I have reinstalled the game and mod countless times and cannot figure out the problem. I would really appreciate anyone’s help

[naive edge]

Sorry forgot to answer on that one. Do you have some video clipping software like medal running in the background? Did you install the d3d9 runtime mentioned in the troubleshooting section (main page readme)?

[wild geyser]

I don’t have any software for video editing, other than, Xbox game bar which I don’t think even counts, but the d3d9 runtime thing, I have no idea what that is… I followed all the steps to install it on the GitHub page.

[red panther]

Could download obs or medal or use the GeForce experience recording software, post the video on yt and mark as unlisted, or just edit with Microsoft’s pre-installed clip champ

[naive edge]

dont use medal with remix

[red panther]

Oh yeah

Totally forgot it don’t work

I even wrote a bug report about it not to long ago as well 🤦‍♂️

[wild geyser]

? I don’t have any recording software installed

Does Xbox game bar count?

Do I need recording software or something?

…

What’s the d3d9 runtime thing?

Remember it’s a Remix Runtime Error, and a D3D device failed to be created. Then in the debug screen it said “Failed to load RTX Remix mod”. You can look at this at the issue I posted on the GitHub, and I included the logs so you can decipher the problem for me, cause I have no idea what is wrong… I have updated my drives and turned down the resolution of my game.

[red panther]

No but it’s easier to tell when you see what’s going on sometimes

[wild geyser]

So what’s the issue then?

[red panther]

Xoxor would know better than me for this

The way it sounds

You don’t got the d3d9 runtime

As Xoxor said

[wild geyser]

I don’t know what that is…

[red panther]

I “think” it’s mentioned here

https://github.com/xoxor4d/p2-rtx/releases/tag/1.5.1

If not

In the readme in the comparability mod

Or the readme in the remix bridge zip

But like I said

I could be wrong

[wild geyser]

Ok thanks

[red panther]

Better for Xoxor to answer

[wild geyser]

Is a d3d9 runtime a file named d3d9.dll in the bin folder in the portal root folder?

[red panther]

It’s either in there or in the root yeah

Iirc

I never referred to it as the d3d9 runtime so I assume that’s what he’s be talking about

[naive edge]

How about you read the readme (troubleshooting: game crashing) as instructed

[west bolt]

I'm going to my dad's this weekend which means I'll have access to the 4070 ti Super and now I'm downloading the new portal 2 RTX mod files for his computer (so I can get the mod installed) I am going to get Skurtyy's PBR Pack installed as well!

I love what you've done to get portal 2 RTX to work @naive edge keep up the good work! My dad loves the visuals and reminds him of when the game was first released. I watched him play it! Also good job @open rampart!

[drifting temple]

Oh look. The gamer dad guy

Have fun

[wild geyser]

I can relate, My dad was so exited when I fist played the game because he remembers playing it, and we share a family account so I had access to the game. So IM TRYING to get the RTX to work cause I just got a 4060 TI

[west bolt]

My dad steamed both games to the family TV for me and my siblings to watch using His GTX GPU can't remember which GTX GPU. It was the only reason he got steam. from what he can recall He got Portal for free he never heard of valve or Half-life before portal.

[wild geyser]

Oh my dad was kinda a video game nerd, back in his day, but now he plays like war ship simulators, that have good graphics on steam ofc

He used to play the Zelda games for us on the switch

[west bolt]

Same He grew up with Command and (idk the rest of the title name)

Command and Conquer

That's the name!

That and Starfox

[winged wind]

THIS IS INSANE!!. Here is Portal 2 running with DLSS 4 at Ultra Performance mode and im not having any blurry image, its almost perfect and my FPS lives for the better

[wild geyser]

I have tried to do that, but I’m miserably failing at it

[open rampart]

Thanks! Have fun

[wild geyser]

Uhg I have tried everything and i keep geting the same errors

[wild geyser]

is someone able to help me or am I a lost cause

I don’t have any Recording software installed BUT Xbox game bar which dosent count, could someone PLEASE read the logs and look at the errors I sent on GitHub. I tried Literally everything

[fluid bison]

DLSS 4 is the king

[sick zinc]

where did you get the dlss4?

[winged wind]

from Cyberpunk 2077

and then somehow i hacked the driver using Nvidia Profile to recognize the new "transformer" model instead of CNN in-games

[sick zinc]

how do I know if dlss 4 is working?

[winged wind]

to check if its actually working you need to enable the dlss indicator to see wich version and model you are using

https://github.com/NVIDIA/DLSS/blob/main/utils/ngx_driver_onscreenindicator.reg)

[winged wind]

you're still using the old CNN model

this is how it should look if you are using dlss 4

[winged wind]

Open your Nvidia Inspector and change "Forced RR Preset" to "Preset D"

to actually enable dlss 4

also check all 3 steps from here

[uneven lark]

Is ultra performance works with transformer model?

[winged wind]

it should work yeah

why?

[winged wind]

yeah you need the .nip file

[sick zinc]

Oh ok

[sick zinc]

I import file into it still can't see it

[winged wind]

are u using "Preset D" ?

[winged wind]

..

[sick zinc]

I didn't see it

[winged wind]

Preset J is for using DLSS without RR

[uneven lark]

can't pass 20fps

game is very demanding, dlss ultra performance

[winged wind]

Try to add this stuff manually to your "CustomSettingNames" file inside Nvidia inspector main directory

and should see that option

[winged wind]

wich gpu?

[uneven lark]

rtx 3070 laptop

[winged wind]

yeah the first levels from Portal 2 are too gpu intense

even a 4080 struggles to run it at 30 fps without FG

[sick zinc]

thx

[winged wind]

np

[winged wind]

now it should work...

[uneven lark]

why preset d for rr

[winged wind]

dont know exactly but im guessing that its the preset the new "transformer" model uses to work

[uneven lark]

ok

but new transformer model takes performance

[winged wind]

its more demanding than CNN model, yes but the image quality its even better at low internal resolutions

specially for the 2000/3000 series

[uneven lark]

hmm

better wait for 2 days

then we can change dlss from nvidia app

[wild geyser]

Would windows defender be an issue for the mod not to work

Has anyone encountered a D3D error, and if so, how did you fix it? I’m so over trying 😭

[thin geode]

unfortunately you're running into a really obscure issue it seems 😦

[winged wind]

wich gpu u have there?

[mortal vine]

DLSS 4 isn't working for me with Portal 2—the game freezes at the start. Maybe I broke the game somehow? DLSS is working in other games, and I already did the things Durant mentioned earlier.

[winged wind]

try to update your runtime to the latest action build from github

[mortal vine]

Thanks for the advice! I’ll give that a try and also reinstall the whole game. If you mean updating to the latest build of the mod, I’ve already done that too. Anyway, when I get back from work, I’ll try to fix it. Amazing game and a very well-done remix implementation!

[naive edge]

This will break some stuff in portal 2 as it ships a custom runtime

[west bolt]

When the override update comes out and it says it doesn't support DLSS 4 what's the fix?

[thin geode]

i can confirm it works fine in normal P2RTX with the custom runtime

[thin geode]

doing it manully like we are right now

[west bolt]

I see what's the RTX bridge exe called in .trex since that's the exe to point the driver to from what I know .

[mortal vine]

I fixed it i had to reinstall whole game, but im missing some light effects? for example @thin geode got blue light in portal gun, I dont have it

[naive edge]

That was portal 1. Portal gun effects are not .. working in p2 atm

[mortal vine]

thanks for quick response

[west bolt]

Is that on the to-do list?

[blissful fulcrum]

Yup, it's an issue on the repo

[west bolt]

Yay

[west bolt]

If Portal 2 work with DLSS 4 (using the RTX-REMIX mod of course) using the official drivers and it works without a hacky method please DM me on how to do so while in the nvidia app.

[thin geode]

#offtopic-game-discussion message

this is the only way currently

you'll have to wait a few days to do it through the app (and even then it might not work)

Remix will be getting an update for DLSS 4 at some point

[wild geyser]

4060 TI

[wild geyser]

Is my RTX just broken because I have tried everything the forms say and it still says Failed to create D3D device 🤧😭😭 🤓

[analog copper]

what game

[buoyant venture]

[wild geyser]

P2 I’m trying to add The RTX remix mod, but I get a Remxi runtime error and then a D3D device failed to create

[wild geyser]

Portal 2 that is

[analog copper]

i deadass thought i was in general remix

[wild geyser]

lol

[wild geyser]

IDEA

make Portal 2 remix mod official, and email Valve and ask them to make a P2 Rtx version

(its my only hope...)

[safe elk]

Iont know if anyone's willing to fork over 100$ for that or how much ever game mods cost to upload

[wild geyser]

i will...

jk

[buoyant venture]

I already paid the $100
Valve just hasn’t verified my tax info

[safe elk]

I see

[safe elk]

Wow

[buoyant venture]

Also, Valve has been difficult to contact

[wild geyser]

oh

well at least your trying

[red panther]

They fr just ghosted us lol

[buoyant venture]

I mean, can’t ghost us if they never talked to us

[red panther]

Fair

[wispy fiber]

What’s this for?

[safe elk]

To lost it on steam

List*

[buoyant venture]

You have to pay a fee to list something on Steam

[wild geyser]

Is there a Pbr pack for portal 2?

[red panther]

Yeah

[wild geyser]

And does it require the RTX remix mod that I can’t get to work on my pc but when I downloaded it on my brothers pc it work first try 😭

[red panther]

Oh then no

I don’t think

[wild geyser]

Ok good 👍

What’s it called?

[red panther]

I said no, as in there isn’t

As far as I know

[wild geyser]

Oh

[red panther]

It’s all good

There might be one

But I wouldn’t get my hopes up

Here’s the pack for RTX if you ever get it to work

https://www.moddb.com/mods/skurtyys-portal-2-rtx-pbr-pack

[wild geyser]

Alr ty

[winged wind]

My 3080 its trying to not die with DLSS 4 Performance mode at 2880x1620 lol

Using DLDSR & DLSS gives me a better image quality/performance than 4K DSR overall

[wild geyser]

me still trying to get it to work

[analog copper]

reinstall windows

[wild geyser]

I literally just bought the pc, And it still shows the D3D error, and i installed it on my brothers 3080 and it worked first try...

I have literally tried everything

the game doesn't crash, it simply doesn't wanna show the window.

[buoyant venture]

The only thing I know that could be causing it is something driver related

[wild geyser]

I just redownloaded it to see if that was the issue

[buoyant venture]

Just a reminder for anyone who wants to help out with remastering Portal 2 with RTX

[viral hull]

hello
i have recently installed the rtx remix and wanted to know if anyone knew how to modify the existing pack or make a pbr texture to keep as much of the original emmissive textures in game (like light from the laser and panels)
i have no prior experience on the matter and have no idea where to start

[red panther]

Your looking for a pbr pack?

https://www.moddb.com/mods/skurtyys-portal-2-rtx-pbr-pack

Here ya go

The lasers should already be producing light though?, did you install the base mod, or just the compatibility mod?

[viral hull]

i already have that
i was wondering if anyone knew how to make one or modify this one to have more emmisive textures like the unmodifed game texture
a big exemple is the panels that move wich with the pbr texture pack no longer make light

as for the lasers they do generate light but far less then base game

[red panther]

Lighting is intended to be different from base game, that’s kinda the idea of pt

[viral hull]

i do like the idea but i feel like at least the panels should generate light
thats why i was wondering how to modify it to my likings or make one if i want to publish it

[red panther]

Can you send me a screenshot of the light panels that you’re talking about?

[viral hull]

i'm not home rn but i'll send a screen of what i am talking about once i am

[red panther]

Alright

Talk to you then

[viral hull]

see ya

[wispy fiber]

trying to get the p2 rtx mod on tsp working does this 💔

[viral hull]

that is already one big step tbh
it doesn't crash and some texture even works
a lot of tweaking and it should work somewhat correctly

[wispy fiber]

tbh all i did was just drag and drop

[viral hull]

yea but working at all with no modifications showes how well the mod is made

[wispy fiber]

hm

also leaving the game window insta crashes the game

[viral hull]

ah
well still it even starting is cool
but yea to have it look good will take more efforts

[wispy fiber]

also the PT renderer sadly doesn't appear at all and its still rasterized

but textures appear here at least

[viral hull]

wow
a lot of efforts then

[wispy fiber]

actually i don't even think the p2 mod does anything

idk

[viral hull]

it does seem to work
rtx seems there
it is what it should do
texture packs are just addons

[wispy fiber]

nah just the menu hooks it seems

[viral hull]

ok

[red panther]

Instead of using the whole mod, you could try just using his modified dxvk

[wispy fiber]

where can i find it?

[red panther]

I’ll try to find the link for you

Give me a sec

[buoyant venture]

https://github.com/xoxor4d/dxvk-remix/tree/combine/pairs_mask_rs

[red panther]

Yeah this

[buoyant venture]

Problem is, I’m pretty sure you have to compile it yourself

Wait

[red panther]

There’s an actions tab

[buoyant venture]

I forgot about actions

I’m dumb

[red panther]

It’s alright

[buoyant venture]

[red panther]

Dw

[naive edge]

action builds are not enabled (and never will) for that fork. Not that this is going to help anyone with compatibility anyway. You can use the original runtime on p2 just fine.
You'll lack support for multiple portal pairs and proper working gel's tho

The runtime changes have nothing to do with general compatibility

[naive edge]

It was already mentioned but this is rasterized. It has this weird green tint all source games have when used with remix (in raster mode).
What is tsp anyway?

[wispy fiber]

stanley parable, its a game based on the portal 2 branch of source

[naive edge]

You can use, eg. the sample mod that comes with the compatibility mod and further modify it using the remix toolkit. Instead of opening it as a project (the project file is not shipped with the sample mod), you select .. one of the other options to further modify it. Was it also called remix or remixing .. I'm not sure

[naive edge]

Oh, well yea even tho it's using the same engine base, the compiled engine files might/will be quite different compared to the portal 2 ones. My compatibility mod is using hard coded memory offsets to modify certain game functions or implement completly new functions. That means it's only compatible with portal 2 ... and only with the lastest version that is.

Shouldn't be hard to create a comp. mod for tsp tho (for someone with r/e knowledge)

[wispy fiber]

💔

[viral hull]

here are an exemple of pbrless panels

[red panther]

I see

And explain to me again what you want it to look like

[viral hull]

like this

hold on i'll put on the pbr pack

and try to find other panels

here

as you can see with pbr it doesn't have emmisive textures

i was wondering how to modify the pack so these have emissive

[naive edge]

uhm ... https://discordapp.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1289195427119501424/1334553242180521994

[viral hull]

where can i find the toolkit ?

[naive edge]

I think you can get it from the new nvidia app https://discordapp.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1028478441235939358/1313662205920673792

[viral hull]

thanks

i'll try my best

[viral hull]

say how would i open it to modify the textures ?

[red panther]

When you click the start a new mod button for toolkit, click on the remaster option, follow the steps from there

[viral hull]

that is not yet a problem as i am exploring the emissiveness tool but
if i make an emmesive mask shoul the place light will be be black or transparent ?

[red panther]

https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1111273025657114654

Sorry it took me so long to get back

This should answer all your questions

[ornate heath]

booooooooooooooooooo

virussssssssss

😱

[old abyss]

Use the 1.5 exe instead while keeping all other files from the newer release

[ornate heath]

or

just ignore it through windows defender

be based like me

i have my anti virus off for over 3 years

[buoyant venture]

I just told defender to ignore it

[naive edge]

Weird I actually replaced the launcher in the 1.5.1 release with the 1.5 one

[misty monolith]

hey uh i think im stuck on infinite loading the spinning thing in the corner is spinning and the dotted line is full

tf now it works after a restart

[naive edge]

the game rebuild the sound cache .. did you not copy the master sound cache file as instructed?

[misty monolith]

might have accidentally went over that not sure but the game works

[naive edge]

if you notice any missing sounds, check the main page readme 👍

[misty monolith]

ok doke but the lights aare a lil weird im in the bedroom in the beginning and everythings pitch black i did everything correctly

i just need to put one there in the rtx remix app

i fixed

[naive edge]

did you grab and install the sample remix mod and placed it into the rtx-remix folder?

[misty monolith]

yeps

[misty monolith]

also the dlss4 so the game runs smooth as butter

[viral hull]

hi guys i was wondering if there is a way to have steam lunch directly the luncher ?

[buoyant venture]

Add non Steam game

Then just select the launcher exe

[viral hull]

ok

[analog copper]

These Walls Could Talk

[scarlet dome]

I'm curious what prevents this from working in co-op

like it seems like it SHOULD work

it almost does except for the player model

[buoyant venture]

The amount of Portals allowed I think

Hopefully it’s something that gets fixed before going on Steam

[warped sierra]

Remix is hardcoded to only support one pair of portals at the moment, and supporting them is relatively expensive. Mostly due to all the calculations needed to get lights to shine through the portals correctly.

Adding a second pair would need code changes in several parts of Remix - basically anywhere that deals with portals.

[naive edge]

^ Adding to that: the runtime that ships with the comp. mod allows for 3 portal pairs but the that is causing some issues with volumetric fog atm.
Problems with coop are:

• the detection and handling of portals (assigning the correct portal indices and such) - portal pair colors will be different (atm)
• handling the player models as each player needs to have different textures tagged as player body (so that it hides your player model)
• writing and testing code that is specific to coop requires me to have a second PC with a second steam account that has portal 2 (I can't really rely on someone else here)
  (I've recently upgraded my entire pc and am just missing a new gpu ..so I'll be able to properly work on coop when I can get my hands on a new one)

[misty monolith]

i cant find anything dlss connected in nvidia inspector

[west bolt]

Portal 2 RTX + @open rampart 's PBR pack AND DLSS 4 look amazing

[sleek yacht]

@naive edge planning to get a 5080/5090?

[naive edge]

Exactly

[sleek yacht]

I think you should be able to snag a 5080 this month

the stock is quite a lot better than the 5090s

[naive edge]

Nah I'm going BIG

[sleek yacht]

fair fair

good luck man

I hope you can get one

[naive edge]

I want to be able to run the game + the toolkit at the same time

[west bolt]

Well good luck man!

[red panther]

Games gonna be going big but your bank account going small

[drifting temple]

🗣️ 🔥

[open rampart]

thoughts chat? or do I just keep them white turrents :3

[buoyant venture]

Just add it as a secret code

Ez

[open rampart]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/skurtyys-portal-2-rtx-pbr-pack/downloads/skurtyys-portal-2-rtx-pbr-pack-version-14

Special thanks to E-Man for helping with subsurface scattering tip

[thin geode]

awesome

[waxen rune]

What's the name of the song that plays in the beginning of your video?

[open rampart]

PotatOS Lament

[half topaz]

oh hey sounds like you fixed that one map having no lights and it being impossible to see how to proceed, good to see it

[open rampart]

Beta testing 👀

[scarlet dome]

👀

[analog copper]

[half topaz]

oh wait I finally realized what that is...putting the mod on Steam?

[buoyant venture]

yes

[half topaz]

nice

[drifting temple]

I'm gonna put it here because reasons

[drifting temple]

@open rampart

[wispy fiber]

holy shit the way glados is lit

[open rampart]

I still haven’t figured out why it does this, for some people it looks the way it should look, and for others it doesn’t Even on a fresh install mine looked fine

[naive edge]

Just manually set the alpha states for foliage in the toolkit and it will be fixed for everyone. The base remix mod does that so just look at the settings for some foliage in there

[untold charm]

nah this shit actualy looks fire

[tardy mist]

I made a video with 20 minutes of gameplay https://youtu.be/IC9T1XhKqgw?si=GNKLp9s0alrXIvsE

[red panther]

Cool

[open rampart]

Yeah I’m gunna fix that tonight, hopefully put out a hot fix tonight, makes the screenshots look like false advertisement

[open rampart]

Looks like these are the current settings on for the foliage, isn't what the toolkit shows is what the runtime should?

[buoyant venture]

I think we just had a similar issue for moss as well, lol

[open rampart]

what the fuck is going on

I thought maybe there was something wrong with the texture but nahh, pbrfusion supports alpha, and it looks right in the preview

[old abyss]

Disable "Use legacy alpha" and enable "Blending Enabled"

[open rampart]

Ohhhhhhh gotcha, thanks! I said I'd patch tonight but I am fried but erm tomorrow

[wispy fiber]

@buoyant venture what do you plan on doing with the rtx remaster on steam?

Will u just simply ai upscale and pbr all the materials or will you try properly redo the models and materials and such

[buoyant venture]

Everything is being redone by hand, no AI

[wispy fiber]

I do hope if you decide to deviate from the art style a bit that people don’t get um, too heated over it

I don’t mean like genuine criticism and calmly stating opinions and dislikes and wishing what was different

I mean like a more, aggressive type of reception

[buoyant venture]

I mean I’m already getting called a liar by Ossy, lol

[wispy fiber]

Wdym by liar?

[wispy fiber]

When did u say u were endorsed by nvidia?

[buoyant venture]

I said they were helping with promoting
Maybe they took that as endorsement

[wispy fiber]

Maybe you could try clear it up in the comments

[buoyant venture]

I will try

[wispy fiber]

Or try clear it up with them personally cause tbh

Being told a word as strong as “lying”

Nah I wouldn’t have that personally

Also another question @buoyant venture what do you plan on having your process be for remastering the assets

Do you plan on mixing in hla assets with original ones

Or just redo every single one, and what tools are you planning on using

Genuinely interested to know what would go into a project as ambitious as this

Cause like, portal 2 is a pretty big game

I just hope it doesn’t end with burn out then following cancelation

[buoyant venture]

I don’t think there’s any hla assets in Portal 2 unless spawned in

[wispy fiber]

Nah I mean like extracting hla assets to use as replacements in portal 2

[buoyant venture]

To be clear, Half-Life Alyx?

[wispy fiber]

Along with original new assets

[wispy fiber]

Ya

[buoyant venture]

We don’t have any plans to use hla assets in anyway

[wispy fiber]

Ah ok, then what to you plan on the process being for making these new assets

[buoyant venture]

Do them from scratch

[wispy fiber]

Ya ik but what will be the work flow

Like programs used and such

[drifting temple]

Microsoft paint for textures and notepad for models

[buoyant venture]

I would ask one of the modelers like @rough ginkgo

[rough ginkgo]

hu im not a modeler

[wispy fiber]

Ah ok, what would you say your role is so far and is there a credits list I can find?

[buoyant venture]

I don't know the correct term

[rough ginkgo]

all good, i work on textures and stuff

[wispy fiber]

What would you say your workflow is in updating these sorta low res textures to be higher in quality along with pbr

[buoyant venture]

Director
and there currently is no list of credits yet

[wispy fiber]

Ah ok

[rough ginkgo]

I recreate them in substance painter using procedural materials and redrawn stencils (like the aperature logo, etc)

i dont try to deviate too far from the original art style

[wispy fiber]

Very nice, would you say it’s easy?

Apart from having to pay the awful adobe fee which in itself isn’t quite easy

[rough ginkgo]

nope, each asset i work on has its own unique challenges

[thin geode]

that's very annoying lol

[drifting temple]

I despise ossy

[wispy fiber]

I’m sure they’re a great person to personally be with, it’s just sad that they sometimes are very harsh or negative, or sometimes act like they’re almost the oracle of portal at least from stuff I’ve seen, tho I assume along with everyone else that’s just a natural part of them

We all have bad sides to ourselves we want to keep down or don’t even notice

If that makes sense

[drifting temple]

"You see, I have finished portal a million times and I am the mightiest portal fan of all"

[wispy fiber]

I mean tbf, they are like a living portal wiki, like they instantly told me what the mods I saw from back like idk 10 years ago were just by speaking small details about it

But ya it is a shame sometimes from what I’ve seen they never really let a different perspective appear for other people if that makes sense

Idk maybe I’m just misremembering

I’m sure they’re a great person who does annoying stuff sometimes like all of us

[thin geode]

the problem is: making claims about other people's work and projects without knowing the full story

because they did the same thing with Portal RTX itself, making posts claiming it was unoptimized because they used 3d models instead of transparent textures (despite this actually being more efficient)

it's kind of a continuous issue

and it hasn't improved

[wispy fiber]

Ya that’s not nice

[thin geode]

and they don't really go to any great lengths to clear up mistakes they do make, at least not with that one

i'm hoping they cooperate here

[wispy fiber]

Ya I’m sure they’re a fine person who just makes rash or quick decisions

Y’know let that emotion lead the charge of choice which I feel we can all relate to

[buoyant venture]

https://bsky.app/profile/ossyflawol.bsky.social/post/3li6etxzd6222

Ossilia Flawol - The Portal Lore Master (@ossyflawol.bsky.social)

ok turns out the person was just Fucking Lying about the project being endorsed by NVIDIA so we can breathe a sigh of relief LMAO

Ossilia Flawol - The Portal Lore Master (@ossyflawol.bsky.social)
Valve heard that NVIDIA was gonna be announcing Portal 2 RTX soon and let out their rage on Portal 1. I am going to believe these events are correlated.

Bluesky · Feb 14, 2025, 11:40 PM

[thin geode]

i'd also like to believe they're a good person and didn't mean to do any harm

[drifting temple]

I wish community notes were a thing on bsky

[buoyant venture]

If anything, this just makes me want to focus on getting the trailer out more

[drifting temple]

"The portal lore master" MY ASS

Actually

They do know a lot about portal lore lol

I wish to reply but I don't have a sfw account on bsky

one of you do it

[buoyant venture]

I don’t use Bsky

[wispy fiber]

Oh wow that is like, unnecessarily aggressive, like I understand being aggressive over some faceless company cause who cares (not including the actual devs and humans) but like to a few indie devs who’re doing it out of passion and their own pocket? Idk

Like it’s not for example fortnite having a half life collab and rewriting the lore to involve fortnite elements

[drifting temple]

Pay em no mind

That's all

Haters gonna hate

I've had a bunch of people try to get to me for my mod

Although the praise was overwhelming

[wispy fiber]

I mean considering they’re one of the bigger portal influencers it’s hard not to ignore

[drifting temple]

Bro literally joined here for my mod

https://tenor.com/view/muta-laugh-gif-18813278

[wispy fiber]

What mod was it again?

[drifting temple]

underground 2

[wispy fiber]

Oh damn u made that mod? I think one of my friends told me about it

Looks really good so far

[drifting temple]

Not me alone

We have a bunch of people

[wispy fiber]

Ya ya ofc

[drifting temple]

The team

minus nv people and kim

[thin geode]

😦

[drifting temple]

nooooooooo

kim

don't be sad

I didn't mean it like that

[wispy fiber]

It’s true @drifting temple despises Kim this is so sad

Can we smash that subscribe button guys this drama is insane

Some might say crazy

[drifting temple]

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-no-no-no-tanklorde-gif-13191678230910881285

its a lie kim

don't listen

ily

[wispy fiber]

I didn’t wanna have to make this video but the drama is so crazy guys

The drama is unbelievable

[drifting temple]

Will you be the path to my tracing?

From: @drifting temple
To: @thin geode

[brazen condor]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-trouble-spanky-gif-9970011438135193066

[thin geode]

bah

[thin geode]

lol sure. good job

[drifting temple]

the RTX Remix situation is crazy

[thin geode]

i'm a lowly orange role

sad

but it's okay. it's not that far from red

and to boost your ego, your invite link brought in over 5k members

[drifting temple]

Better than wendy. No one bothered giving her the NV role lmao

[thin geode]

poor wendy

[drifting temple]

That's pretty crazy

[wispy fiber]

Crazy a fast food chain became sentient

[drifting temple]

No less, a community representative at Nvidia

[thin geode]

https://tenor.com/view/dew-it-galactic-republic-palpatine-gif-21847982

[open rampart]

Erm would anyone be down to test 0.5.1? It'll be the fixed foliage spreadsheets :3

[open rampart]

Is this a bug in the toolkit? When I disable Use Legacy Alpha and enable Blend Enabled the foliage disappears

But it's visible in the game

[naive edge]

set alpha test to less equal

int inputs:alpha_test_type = 4 (string options = "Always:0|Never:1|Less:2|Equal:3|LessOrEqual:4|Greater:5|NotEqual:6|GreaterOrEqual:7")
bool inputs:blend_enabled = 1
bool inputs:use_legacy_alpha_state = 0

[open rampart]

Ahh perfect, thanks xorxor!

[open rampart]

I was just gunna fix the foliage, but then I remembered the emissive maps I wanted to add and now I'm down in earths mantle

[open rampart]

Adding emissives is making a muchhhhh bigger difference than I thought they would, adding/finding everything and then gunna see if I can get the beams to emit

[naive edge]

beams where emitting light in my sample mod so just lookup the beam hash there and copy the settings

[open rampart]

Sweet, thanks! Wish the toolkit had a search function in the stage manager

[blissful fulcrum]

https://github.com/xoxor4d/p2-rtx-base-mod/issues/1

I have a list and a map attached to this issue with everything that I could find that was emissive in the whole game

[open rampart]

OH SHIT! Thanks, that's very helpful!

[blissful fulcrum]

np c:

I think I missed three or four things like the underground lights and elevator lights but other then that it should be everything

[open rampart]

So many changes in this update it'll be 1.5 emissives/fixed foliage/removed 1.4 version of shiny turrunts, and I forget the rest lol

[naive edge]

On a side note, was the flat glass in-front of the large emissive wall lights in the first levels done on purpose?
It's missing the wavey normal map

[safe elk]

It also seems to be missing it's parallax map unless I'm mistaken

[open rampart]

Ohhhh that's what it looks likeeee. I completely forgot what the original looked like. Hmmm I'll see if I have the normal/displacements somewhere and see how it looks. I kinda like the clean profile of them, but I haven't seen what it looks like with ripples yet

Also ewwww vanilla portal looks so ugly to me now

[half topaz]

that reminds me, I noticed you replaced the security glass with just plain clear glass

I assume that's due to ray reconstruction artifacts?

since even the new transformer model can't handle that grid pattern

[open rampart]

Security glass? What's that look like?

[naive edge]

I guess he means the glass with "chain links" inside?

[half topaz]

yeah it has a metal grid inside the glass, so you can't just break it to bypass a door

there's a lot of security glass in the facilities in Portal 2

but ray reconstruction turns it into a garbled mess with any motion, even with the new transformer model

I assumed that's why you replaced all the security glass with plain glass

[old abyss]

think you meant "privacy" glass, with that frosted glass look, right? If so, that is because transmission + roughness are a no no for realtime pt.
I remember Kralich talking about the same approach for Portal Prelude RTX windows with clear but wavy/bumpy glass as well

[half topaz]

no I'm talking security glass that has a metal grid embedded in it, like this

http://www.diydoorstore.com/assets/images/ngp/_dsc1288.jpg

this stuff is all over the facility in Portal 2

[rough ginkgo]

a transmission texture should work

[old abyss]

Ahhh gotcha. Yeah these lines are way too thin even for primary rays

[rough ginkgo]

i've done it in a few gmod maps and it looked ok

[half topaz]

well they render ok, it's just that ray reconstruction can't handle the pattern so it all turns into a garbled mess in motion

regular DLSS handles it fine

[warped sierra]

Any chance I could get a video recording of that? the RR team is always on the lookout for cases they can improve on.

[half topaz]

oh sure

what would be the best way to post/send it?

[warped sierra]

just post it to discord?

[half topaz]

alright I'll try to make sure it fits, the file size limits can be a pain sometimes

[warped sierra]

I suppose you could toss it up on google drive or youtube or something

[half topaz]

if I can get it to run.... I had this initialization error before

well now I'm really confused, I swear RR is handling this much better now on my 5080 than it did before...

if I can remember what map that other spot was in though hmm

well I'm not sure what to say now, I can't seem to reproduce the problem on my 5080, also tried disabling the DLSS override and it wouldn't even let me enable ray reconstruction

but if anyone else wants to try, load up sp_a3_jump_intro and sidestep back and forth while looking at the grating next to the entrance to the puzzle chamber at the beginning

when I tested that on my 4080 it looked substantially worse with ray reconstruction vs regular DLSS

there's also some security glass you can check (requires the texture pack to NOT be installed) if you load up sp_a3_03, then noclip up to the door to the next room in the far corner

[warped sierra]

Hmm, IIRC it's been quite a while since we updated the RR .dll, and I don't believe RR is any different on a 50 series... I could be wrong tho.

Haven't done much with RR, but if you can repro that (or any other case where RR performs worse than no-RR) we're always interested in getting details / a recording

[half topaz]

yeah I'll definitely keep that in mind if I do manage to reproduce an issue like this again

for what it's worth the mod here has RR DLL v3.7

[drifting temple]

Speaking of rr, I might as well share this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613711067167719424/1339189904445407314/portal2_0sTNtROJUr.mp4?ex=67b9060a&is=67b7b48a&hm=4a7d1ec0a9301e76a4a07159ddf616a266d48c53052461d4d2a81ab7d45f88db&

That's a lot of boiling

And I mean A LOT

[thin geode]

DLSS 4 fixes so much in Remix

looking forward to the implementation

[half topaz]

yeah it's definitely a big improvement, and thankfully DLSS overrides work on it (just can't use that at the same time as DLSS Tweaks, that's what was crashing me)

[drifting temple]

This is with dlss4

[thin geode]

with RR?

that tends to happen in rooms lit only by emissives iirc

[half topaz]

I've seen similar even with DLSS 4, but it tends to stabilize after a couple seconds at most of not moving the camera

but then any movement brings it all back

[drifting temple]

Ye s

[warped sierra]

Hmm, does that get better with RR off?

In general when you get boiling even when the camera is still, it means the light sampling is picking bad lights, so very few rays are actually reaching lights that affect them.

[drifting temple]

I'd have to recheck, but from general experience it does seem like non RR denoiser is great at keeping the image stable as long as nothing changes

[warped sierra]

seems like you have a really bright light, and that area is getting illuminated by bounce lighting from that bright light?

[drifting temple]

I think you're right because there's sunlight shining through on the floor just under the camera

I'll survey the specific location again

[analog copper]

this happens in tf2

and its really bizarre

[warped sierra]

Yeah, I suspect if you turn off all the denoising and uprezing , you'll just see that the signal is mostly black with a few bright spots in that area. we have a few algorithms that help with this sort of thing, but it's just a fundamentally harder case to calculate.

[drifting temple]

It's just bad denoising. Can happen in any game

[warped sierra]

adjusting the lighting setup in the area can help - I remember we had a spot like this in Portal, and putting some rect lights on top of the emissive surfaces helped a lot.

[drifting temple]

Yeah. Like using it as a portal. It's a thing in blender

[thin geode]

yeah, that's just emissive, right?

this issue is present everywhere in Barnyard, because it's just emissives 😛

[drifting temple]

No, it's directional light BUT bounced

[thin geode]

ah. hm

[drifting temple]

Because in my experience, direct emissive lights are still cleaner than bounced lights

Those are the real difficult ones

[warped sierra]

Yeah, direct lighting is always easier than indirect. but direct lights are usually better than direct emissives, and indirect lights are better than indirect emissives

[drifting temple]

I think Kim was stating the fact that mesh lights are noisier than dedicated light entities.

[warped sierra]

err, I was agreeing with Kim. direct light = light entity. direct emissive = mesh light

[drifting temple]

Light entities > emissive mesh > Bounce lighting

[warped sierra]

the distinction still exists within bounce lighting.
Light entities > emissive mesh > Bounce Light entities > bounce emissive mesh

[drifting temple]

Yeah that's better

Because I have this clip

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613711067167719424/1340718908692496495/portal2_kKWRGgERKQ.mp4?ex=67b8a749&is=67b755c9&hm=f7f3a14a86d7ee60a20a37b804c7ac5a89c379d541db42b17c3bfff3107a7f94&

And it's very clean

[warped sierra]

that's a much easier lighting case than the one you shared earlier

[drifting temple]

Yep. Just to clear up Kim's concern that emissive mesh lighting might have caused the boiling

[west bolt]

Any updates on getting Portal 2 RTX on steam?

[drifting temple]

Who is putting portal 2 rtx on steam

[fluid bison]

Vulpes does

[drifting temple]

Haha

[buoyant venture]

https://steamdb.info/app/3529100/

[drifting temple]

But is it verified and ready to launch

[buoyant venture]

Pffttt, it is nowhere ready to launch

The store page might be ready soon but not the app

[drifting temple]

Yeah. I was just wondering if valve gave their blessing

[buoyant venture]

They don’t need to, Source mods are allowed to use the Valve IP as their documentation states

[drifting temple]

ah

[buoyant venture]

That means if you guys wanted, you could post TF2 RTX to Steam without getting in trouble

[analog copper]

@naive edge

ill cashapp you 5 dollars to fix dino d day

its basically the same branch as portal 2

[opaque hawk]

ok so i thought it was to do with the PBR pack but its not. i uninstalled it and the portal is just blot orange and blue and the glass is a blot gray

would send a screenshot but cant

[naive edge]

you are probably missing the base remix mod that "comes" with the compatibility mod

[opaque hawk]

i was being stupid, i placed the mods folder into the portal root mods folder and not the remix mods folder

its working fine now ty anyway

[opaque hawk]

would this work with modded maps

[austere crescent]

Am I doing something wrong?

[naive edge]

looks good

[austere crescent]

So why when i launching the game i get a black screen?

[red panther]

considering the last thing it looks like you clicked on is the portal2 exe, click on the p2-rtx-launcher.exe

[austere crescent]

I tried both

[red panther]

mhm

did you use the actions build or the release build?

because the last time this happened was when i used an action build

[austere crescent]

release build i think

[red panther]

just to be sure, re-install the release, and add it to the folder, when asked to replace say yes and it should work, if not, lmk

[austere crescent]

Now it works. Turns out I just had to restart my pc

Do I need to enable the enhanced meshes in some way?

[red panther]

There are non

it's just pt

[austere crescent]

Okay, so thanks for the help anyway

[red panther]

unless you're talking abt glass

[naive edge]

I guess you followed the instructions and installed the sample remix mod?

[austere crescent]

yes

[naive edge]

okay so if portals look like actual portals, you are good to go and can remix the game to your liking

[austere crescent]

ok

[wispy fiber]

is this with the new transformer model and NRD?

[naive edge]

yea

[wispy fiber]

can you show us what it looks like without the transformer model and nrd

[naive edge]

cnn

[drifting temple]

Original lights working yet?

[wispy fiber]

damn and this is without nrd right?

[naive edge]

wdym with nrd

[thin geode]

NRC they mean

[naive edge]

the two pics are with restir

[wispy fiber]

ah ok

[naive edge]

nrc

[wispy fiber]

ah damn sry keep getting those two confused

[muted jetty]

@naive edge sorry for the ping 😅 and you can try to port rtx remix to Counter-Strike Online 2 or I would like to look at most of the maps with rtx shader and examine the bigcity map and go through the mission there with this shader go through the zombie crush mode etc. in short just walk around with this shader on all the maps or maps from Counter-Strike Online 2 are also in other games like gmod or another game based on source but there are few of them and not all of them are there although in
-# there is a campaign there, but I would watch it too

[winged wind]

@naive edge we can use latest dxvk-bridge builds on p2 to use the new NRC and RR options on the go? or we need to wait for an update?

[naive edge]

ehm no sorry I dont know that game

[naive edge]

you'll need to wait for the update

[muted jetty]

https://youtu.be/B_nVLaMz0Mg?si=9yEV7oJAD6HFFqNv

and I also have the 2013 game client 😅

[analog copper]

this looks like a proper raytracing mod

not that it didn't b4

[analog copper]

can you do csgo

PLEASEEE

[sleek yacht]

oh right

CSO is that chinese clone

maybe not chinese

[muted jetty]

This is official game by nexon korea and valve

Not clone

but now they only have the first part of the game, they closed the second part in 2018 in Korea, Japan, Taiwan and China, but you can still play it or there are custom servers, one of them is called global

[fluid bison]

I love Leet design in CSO2, its like his CS:S look but with 100x testosterone

[muted jetty]

in the old and new versions the character of his face is different in the old version of 2012 and 13 of any before 2017 the character of his face in the old one he is much sadder he does not smile and in the new one he smiles quite I don't know what he looks like but I will send it later

[muted jetty]

with one cso2 old build from 2013 open beta test
on the other hand the last client cso2 from 2018 This can be seen from the reflection of cubemaps

[naive edge]

This is a thread about portal 2 so please try to stay on topic

[drifting temple]

Not when I'm here

Here's a photo of my beautiful child (he's shameless)

[muted jetty]

i know 😅

although I just wanted to suggest that you try to somehow make an rtx remix for this game as well since it also works on dx9
-# but I still knew that you wouldn't agree(

[analog copper]

@naive edge

why do you make it so the dll has to have portal 2 - Direct3D 9

[naive edge]

why not?

[analog copper]

idk

[naive edge]

a) to make sure it's used with what it was intended for
b) to slightly delay loading of the dll so some game functions are initialized before the dll
c) it wont work with anything else anyway

[analog copper]

darn

im tryna get the 2011 csgo pax build working

which uses a like

slightly modified p2 build

[rough ginkgo]

so for (b), would you add a timer instead if the game uses the same window title throughout its loading process? (infra for example)

[naive edge]

no because I also need the window handle and that requires the window title

[rough ginkgo]

right, i meant adding a timer in addition to the window handle

since you said you use the titles to delay loading

infra uses the exact same window title/handle from loading to ingame (no "Direct3D - 9")

[naive edge]

I'm not sure if I can follow

[rough ginkgo]

if I'm not mistaken, you don't inject into portal 2 until the window title switches to "Portal 2 - Direct3D 9" correct?

hopefully that phrasing makes a little more sense

[naive edge]

Uhm I don't think that the title changes at all. The window gets created with that title.
To clarify, it is not delaying injection per se. The dll creates a thread that searches for the window title. If the window is found, it searches and waits for all game modules (client.dll, engine.dll etc) to be loaded and only then proceeds with any actual logic that comes with the compatibility mod

[rough ginkgo]

ah ok

that clears it up for me

ty

[naive edge]

too much fog but looks kinda cool 😂

[sand otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1086973043454267424/1123681355981656126/ezgif.com-gif-maker_-_2022-07-15T183109.613-1.gif

I FUCKING LOVE REMIX

[west bolt]

Will DLSS 4 be supported by your portal 2 mod?

[buoyant venture]

#1289195427119501424 message

[naive edge]

The video above was captured whilst using the latest available runtime version so yeah

[west bolt]

Awesome!

[old abyss]

That part of the game is quite foggy tbh. Not that much though lol. Sort of this vibe with dust particles

[rough ginkgo]

1st pic looks like crysis 3

[ornate heath]

how many frames do you have it to accumulate?

looks pretty unresponsive

afair default is 128 frames

try something like 16

[naive edge]

This is a special setting that you can enable to not get contagious fog. Not sure what it’s called from the top of my head but it adds noise to the fog

[drifting temple]

In my experience, 45-60 works best.

Less than a second if you're getting good framerates

[ornate heath]

not a power of 2

grr

[drifting temple]

It's for nerds

I'm cool so I avoid the power of 2 numbers

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/419869574394281987/1348853328699850782/IMG_7754.png?ex=67d0f90e&is=67cfa78e&hm=7a9019ec29c7b7c84ab5ba760c0f5d8d16bc3bb3dc36b4a96cd6e71b5a388233&

[naive edge]

what accumulation are we even taking about here?

[drifting temple]

Volumetric accumulation. It's in the advanced settings

By default, it accumulated the fog over a 128 frames

Which is too slow

[red panther]

It provides a nice abandoned building like atmosphere

[winged wind]

so can't update my p2 runtime to the latest build yet, right?

[naive edge]

Negative

[buoyant venture]

Unless you wanna port over the changes yourself

[winged wind]

btw im in love with this

time to replay p2 with the new runtime (when its ready)

and the skurtys pbr pack

[buoyant venture]

You’ll love our new assets then

[open rampart]

I’m gunna push out the new update soon, it’s going to be the huge emissive update that’ll make the fog look really really cool

[scarlet dome]

cannot wait!!

[frosty cargo]

Damn I'm gonna have to replay portal 2 again with all the new stuff 🙂

[noble furnace]

Finally playing through now that I have a pc that can handle it and good LORD

Watching light bloom out from below the portal on open is actually, unironically amazing to me, yall have done some serious work

[neon marsh]

my game is crashing on launch, logs show err [37] common device objects were not disposed of.
anyone have any ideas how to fix that? the game works fine launching from steam so I imagine it's an issue with the rtx mod.

here's all my log files too, if that helps.

[neon marsh]

tried:
clearing save file
updating gpu drivers
disabling DXVK
disabling rtx.io and adaptive resolution
launching the game in windowed mode
disabling steam, nvidia and discord overlays

and of course verifying the game files seems to have fixed things
should've thought of that first

me when occam's razor

[analog copper]

ill be the first to say it

id have sex with portal 2

https://tenor.com/view/ts-squid-game-squid-game-2-tuff-dance-tuff-gif-1192143770479362748

[near linden]

Has 1.5 dropped anywhere yet? :)

[naive edge]

negative

normal map doesn't really cut it - missing some inner refractions

[near linden]

looks awesome

i left a comment on one of your videos literally just now but may as well ask while im here - is there any chance you could also update the chapter icons/loading screens? they (obviously) use non-rtx images so itd be nice consistency if u could

obviously not an insanely important feature but

nice consistency

[naive edge]

I'm mainly working on compatibility with remix and not on an actual remix mod that enhances the visuals

[analog copper]

whats new

[naive edge]

well it now works with the 1.0 runtime and I've ported lots of goodies from l4d2 like this

Need to redo the base remix mod that comes with the comp. mod as the update broke some stuff and I don't want to ship a dark ass game because people will complain because they don't understand what it is actually about

[red panther]

The things I could say about that

[buoyant venture]

Hopefully it doesn’t break our stuff

[open rampart]

There’s ways to fix it easy peasy if it does, switching hl2 to gmod hashes was no biggie

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-played-these-games-before-seong-gi-hun-squid-game-i've-played-these-games-already-netflix-gif-16480153790313233198

[naive edge]

well .conf files need updating as remix variable names changed (volumetrics etc) and nocull mapmarkers have new hashes

[analog copper]

did 1.0 break the config like other source games?

im assuming not since its not like other source games

[naive edge]

?

[analog copper]

just vertex's randomly dissapearing

[naive edge]

there was only some black flickering that can be fixed by removing one var

[analog copper]

what var

[naive edge]

#general-remix message

[analog copper]

lit

[half topaz]

on a related note...have you potentially fixed the Portal 2 RTX launcher being flagged as a virus? I had to fight with Windows Antimalware like crazy to get it to leave the mod alone

[hexed shoal]

I used the mod from xoxor4d and the sound doesn't work, please help me solve the problem

i'm used russian sound

[naive edge]

There is a troubleshoot section on the main GitHub page with a section called no sound

[naive edge]

I’ll be using dxwrapper and no longer ship a launcher so that should no longer be an issue

[hexed shoal]

thx, now everything works

[naive edge]

saw this volumetric artifact (per portal froxel volumes) on portal 2 and thought my max portal pair "hack" was causing that but turns out that it also happens with the stock runtime on p1

[wispy fiber]

ya i think this is one of the reasons the portal rtx update is delayed

[naive edge]

extreme example

[half topaz]

that's weird, I've never seen that before

[wispy fiber]

It’s with the new fog system

I remember how when playing portal rtx with the new volumetric stuff how the fog would just snap how it looked when you go in and out of a portal

It wasn’t as extreme as this but portals def didn’t work well with the fog

[half topaz]

oh so it's an RTX Remix feature

[near linden]

Might be stupid but isnt this mod enhancing the visuals by adding pbr textures and changing lighting

Not tryna be snarky or anything I just don't know how this stuff works lol

[naive edge]

The compatibility mod in itself is not enhancing any game assets. It just makes the game work with remix so that people can use remix to replace assets, add lights etc.
There is a base remix mod that comes with it that adds a few lights and might enhance a thing or two but don't expect anything crazy

[near linden]

My god I totally got you mixed up with that person that's adding PBR materials to the game lmao

Skurtyy I think, my bad!!!

[half topaz]

yeah he's in here too

[blissful fulcrum]

Has the weird glass refractions been fixed?

[naive edge]

on the left most window you mean? No .. this is actually "caused" by the game asset and I think by design

[blissful fulcrum]

I'm talking about this;

https://github.com/xoxor4d/p2-rtx/issues/68

[naive edge]

yea that is actually the "fault" of that glass pane and is likely by design (for some shader trickery or something in the og game?)

[blissful fulcrum]

How so, I don't remember it looking like that in the rasterized version?

Or am I just missing the point?

Looks pretty different to me and unintentional

[naive edge]

mhh I dont really remember but I saw something somewhere and thought .. oh thats why 😄

[blissful fulcrum]

Ahh

[half topaz]

yeah that's weird that that particular window is showing such intense refraction

I feel like I noticed some weird glass refraction in a few places too, but I can't remember exactly where

[naive edge]

making it thin walled gets rid of it but that kinda hides the stripes

yea the pass to glados in wakeup has some weird refractions as well

[blissful fulcrum]

The stripes shouldn't be refracting anyway, I think that's a reused Portal RTX material which they added refractive stripes for some reason to the material

[half topaz]

hmm yeah in the original game it just looks like some frosting on the glass

[blissful fulcrum]

All it seems to do is obstruct what your attempting to view idk why they did that in P1RTX

[naive edge]

yea ik but using a transmitance map causes all sorts of issues with volumetrics

it can almost look emissive in some instances

[half topaz]

oh so the frosted glass screws up fog rendering?

[naive edge]

yea translucent materials are really limited

[half topaz]

gotcha

[naive edge]

even decals ontop of translucent materials are a pain

[half topaz]

yeah I remember viewing laser beams through glass was a problem when I played

though this talk about lasers and glass reminds me of one spot where ray reconstruction was having a really hard time

worst case scenario with laser beams behind some of that rippled glass

[buoyant venture]

Would happily give you access to our build

(There was a pending GitHub invitation)

[thin geode]

just noticed that there's no license on the p2-rtx repo

[buoyant venture]

I forgot

[polar badger]

Why is it being flagged as a malware?

I would love to play but I dont feel safe to do so currently.

[drifting temple]

Because it injects into the exe

Which is something that viruses also do

[naive edge]

The next version will get rid of the launcher which currently causes the false positive. Even rtx remix itself is currently detected as a false positive because they also ship a dll injector

[polar badger]

Alright perfect, ill keep my eyes out for it

[half topaz]

I've actually never had issues with RTX Remix itself, but at one point Windows Antimalware went absolutely nuts about the Portal 2 RTX launcher, I had to allow the file like 5 times before it shut up and let me run it...

[frosty cargo]

Personally I think it looks cool

[naive edge]

it is kinda weird in motion tho 🫣

[naive edge]

to bad that we cant have real roughness settings on translucent materials but this is good enough 😜

[rough ginkgo]

transmission texture?

[naive edge]

emission actually

[rough ginkgo]

lol clever

[naive edge]

veeeeeery lightly

[hexed shoal]

@naive edge Bro, what you did for the portal is straight-up a masterpiece, but if we’re being real here, your mod still needs a ton of work. I’m hoping either the fans will finish it up or you will. A mod like that just can’t be abandoned.

[rough ginkgo]

its a compat mod

not a PBR makeover

either a team or yourself will have to fixup the levels, textures, and models

[hexed shoal]

I just beat the whole game with your mod, and yeah, there are some spots where it’s straight-up impossible to get through because there’s no light at all. Plus, I ran into a bunch of visual bugs too.

[naive edge]

Thanks but I'm generally working on compatibility and not on actual enhancements in the form of textures / meshes or lights. I do ship a basic "mod" to not ship a dark ass game because everyone would complain

[hexed shoal]

I get that it’s just a compatibility mod, but I’m still curious to see what comes out of it. I’ll be one of the first in line to test something like that.

That’s why I’ll be waiting for updates in this thread to see what can be done with Portal using NVIDIA tech.

[half topaz]

he's still working on improvements to the mod too

[buoyant venture]

cough

[hexed shoal]

Well, looks like we’re waiting then.

[half topaz]

and there's a Steam release sometime in the near future

which I assume will be packaged with the PBR texture pack

[buoyant venture]

indeed

[buoyant venture]

https://steamdb.info/app/3529100/

[half topaz]

should have those lighting issues fixed

is there any sort of ETA on it?

[hexed shoal]

Can you upload a video to Google Drive or YouTube so I can check it out? Discord just won’t load videos for me.

[buoyant venture]

Going to take awhile though, we're not doing AI upscale

[buoyant venture]

It's the SteamDB website

not a video

[hexed shoal]

I mean, I want to see what you’ve done in a video, not about the Steam db, want to visually check out your progress.

[buoyant venture]

We don't really have any videos ready for the public yet

[half topaz]

so you're doing a more extensive texture overhaul than Skurty already did?

[hexed shoal]

Ok

[buoyant venture]

Handmade textures

[hexed shoal]

@buoyant venture By the way, I have another question: will localization be cut in the project?

[buoyant venture]

The files are still there, I would just have to check that they work/what it would take to get them working

[half topaz]

oh so you're going to redo all the textures by hand? yeah that'll take a while

[rough ginkgo]

there is a whole team doing it

[hexed shoal]

@buoyant venture And here's another question, when can we expect the beta?

At least approximate dates

[half topaz]

well I'm looking forward to it (even though I already played through Portal 2 RTX)

[buoyant venture]

No date right now

[hexed shoal]

Sorry to hear that, but I'll definitely be waiting for the first betas.

[analog copper]

dlc

make it dlc

🤓

[buoyant venture]

That's not allowed

[analog copper]

wdym

not paid

im not talkin bout paid

[buoyant venture]

You can't upload a DLC for another game, only mods

[analog copper]

oooooooh

[naive edge]

Adding / Removing (individual) texture hashes from config hash sets! But it requires changes in the runtime + bridge + api headers (obv.)

[drifting temple]

Adding hashes aside.

That's one sexy devui

[naive edge]

Use case: removing the "glass light" on certain maps (and leave it on on untouched maps) and adding / removing player model hashes for coop

[naive edge]

hold on

[sleek bay]

Oh god xoxors bout to flex I can feel it coming

[drifting temple]

I'm still waiting

[naive edge]

sorry first vid was 101 MB (rip)

[drifting temple]

got damn

That's

A lot

[sleek bay]

Omg this is incredible

[drifting temple]

https://tenor.com/view/honestly-quite-incredible-drinking-water-underwater-cool-gif-22285702

[naive edge]

lots of stuff to configure but way easier than doing it in the toml file. It does not write modifications to the file on its own tho. You have to copy the changes to the clipboard and manually add it to the file

with unique markers for example

[wild geyser]

Has the project been published on steam yet..?

[drifting temple]

no

[dapper ravine]

How do I launch the mod without the launcher executable? My antivirus thinks it's a virus and won't let me extract the .exe

[drifting temple]

You can't

[naive edge]

Add an exemption for the launcher or wait for the new update

[sudden lotus]

in the new update, will the portal gun indicator light be fixed? (great work btw)

[naive edge]

mhh well they do work in a way but most of the effects are shader based and get really jittery the further you are from the map center .. thats why I've disabled them

[sudden lotus]

oh ok, gotcha. awesome mod!

[naive edge]

the cube is a lie

[rough ginkgo]

hw skinning?

[analog copper]

portal 2 if you smoked crack

[naive edge]

not gonna happen

[half topaz]

dimensions are a lie

[open rampart]

Woah

[red panther]

Plot twist: the cube is made of cake

[red panther]

Ig this pin is a lie

[drifting temple]

This fucks with my head in ways that I cannot describe. Can you tell me what's going on here? Does the game always skew the cube when rendering?

[naive edge]

I've disabled parts of a matrix multiplication that places the prop into the world but I only modified the x axis of each vertex

[drifting temple]

ah

lmao

Frozen vertices

[buoyant venture]

I’m guessing this is related to Eman’s issue?

The one that doesn’t allow us to do mesh replacements

[naive edge]

I obv. have to fix up some of the broken stuff but the cube is stable .. so that might work out

[buoyant venture]

@rough ginkgo , you know what to do

[rough ginkgo]

i have no modelling skills lmao

[buoyant venture]

Maybe someone in the team does

[blissful tide]

I tried this RTX mod the other day and I want to say, it is incredible. Portal 2 looks amazing, I can't believe how good it looks. Thank you very much for this.

[open tulip]

what did you do to get those hashes stable?

[naive edge]

I've disabled position/normal baking for vertices on "dynamic" static props by setting the poseToWorld to identity.
I then transpose poseToWorld and use that as the world transform (SetTransform(D3DTS_WORLD, ..)) right before drawing the mesh

[open tulip]

where do you set poseToWorld some hook to a function in studiorender?

[naive edge]

just to be clear, anything that animates is still unstable. Even shooting down the camera and picking it up makes it unstable. The cube is fine for some reason 😄

@open tulip

// CStudioRender::R_StudioRenderFinal -> 
// CStudioRender::R_StudioDrawPoints -> 
// CStudioRender::R_StudioDrawMesh -> 
// CStudioRender::R_StudioDrawStaticMesh ->
// CStudioRender::R_StudioSoftwareProcessMesh -> g_SoftwareProcessMeshFunc[]
// CProcessMeshWrapper<0,0,0>::R_StudioSoftwareProcessMesh

Setting the pose matrix to identity before ComputeSkinMatrixSSE gets called.

I'll use the transposed one waaaay later in cmeshdx8::renderpass where I setup all the fixed function stuff

[open tulip]

I see

[naive edge]

it's working pretty good now but meshes with multiple sub meshes are still broken ... probably because they are parented to the parent mesh and thus having local transforms

[open tulip]

Stable hashes has been one of the longest standing issues in gmod rtx

[naive edge]

actual static props should be stable right? whatever the real term for that is in source

[rough ginkgo]

yeah most hashes are stable, it's only skinned ones that are unstable, that even includes objects that are totally static

[wispy fiber]

Physics objects are skinned??

[rough ginkgo]

some

not all

most hl2 props work fine, but gmod specific props for example are skinned for whatever reason

i think its related to how models are compiled for source

[buoyant venture]

Just implement hardware skinning

[rough ginkgo]

🥹

[wispy fiber]

I wonder is it possible to look in the code of hl2 rtx and see how hardware skinning works

[rough ginkgo]

would need someone with really good RR knowledge

[buoyant venture]

It’s probably NDA

[rough ginkgo]

portal prelude rtx also has hw skinning

[buoyant venture]

For the NPCs I assume?

[rough ginkgo]

i think anything that uses it

[wispy fiber]

Nah I mean like the compiled code in the released builds and stuff

[rough ginkgo]

i remember everything being stable in the debug view

[buoyant venture]

Wasn’t @loud blade involved in both? I see a correlation

[wispy fiber]

I’m sure someone could find a way to decompile the DLLs, it’s source after all prob not that encrypted

[rough ginkgo]

ye he mentioned about enabling it but didnt go into detail how, probably for NDA reasons lol

[wispy fiber]

Has anyone tried decompiling the DLLs yet?

[rough ginkgo]

its not that easy

its not like they're encrypted, but its not like we can magically turn a DLL into human readable source code

[wispy fiber]

💔

[buoyant venture]

I just thought, what if we use the P1 RTX cube mesh as a test

[safe elk]

Reminds me of superliminal gameplay

https://tenor.com/view/superliminal-gif-19174869

[naive edge]

uhm well the source code for hl2 is out there but that doesn't make it any easier

[drifting temple]

[wispy fiber]

I wonder what’s new is this image

The subsurface scattering leaves?

[naive edge]

some textures and general lighting .. just wanted to post something

[rough ginkgo]

amazing emoji name

[buoyant venture]

Eman vines?

[naive edge]

stock

[wispy fiber]

Do we know what assets eman worked on for hl2 rtx?

[old abyss]

Hey there.
Not many assets, really. Mostly vegetation and technical stuff.
I worked on the grass (assets and scattering), Large ass Oak tree at the end of the ravenholm demo, cattails in canals chapter, some smaller bushes and the poplar trees from what I remember

[wispy fiber]

Honestly ur vegetation assets looks amazing

[buoyant venture]

Oh wait HL2 RTX

I’m tired

[buoyant venture]

[old abyss]

Ty
I owe blender geometry nodes a lot for that. TreeIt as well

[analog copper]

did you manually place all the grass pieces in ravenholm lol

[old abyss]

Yes, but I made a tool for that #1146527055664652449 message

[analog copper]

wowww

[frosty cargo]

Love it

[naive edge]

mmmm pom fibers

[wispy fiber]

Did you set the displacement inwards or outwards?