Portal 2

[buoyant venture]

Yeah

It's still weird tho how FSR 3.1 looks better in Remix than most games

[analog copper]

wait how do i get this to work on portal 2

[buoyant venture]

@analog copper

[worthy pendant]

oh shoot I just saw this, this needs to be pinned

[drifting temple]

Creamed

[naive edge]

I've forced material hashes for video files and they can now be tweaked in the toolkit (eg. to make them emissive).
A feature to use the original colormap as the source for the emissive map would be really handy .. as we have to work with a solid emissive color unfortunately)

[frail lily]

You make me emit

[fluid bison]

just looking at how it could like

[heady laurel]

amazing

[analog copper]

nintendo hire this man

[rough ginkgo]

working on the dirty metal cube

(my pc is dying)

everything is from scratch, no reused assets (except the model)

hmm it kinda looks off ingame

emission looks pretty good when its dark at least

[obtuse locust]

What format did you export your textures in?

[rough ginkgo]

png

[rough ginkgo]

ok i think its the tiling of the dirt, it just looks too uniform

also normals are bugged again?

only happens with OGL normals and not directx

[rough ginkgo]

reduced tiling, i think this looks a bit better

[heady laurel]

Looks better

@rough ginkgo can I see your layers please

[heady laurel]

Nice use of anchor points, I assume it's for the decals to have the same edge wear generators around them as well

[rough ginkgo]

yeah eman showed me a couple of days ago

there is more uses of anchor points but i would then have to show all the layers per mask lol

[heady laurel]

Yeah because normally substance can't detect those decals or paint layers you applied so you need anchor points

[heady laurel]

It's fine

I know it's something related to the curvature map but I don't have much knowledge about it as well

[rough ginkgo]

im using a combination of ambient occlusion and curvature generators to get the dirt/scratches to show in the right areas

still feels like black magic to me that substance can do this

total game changer

[heady laurel]

Substance is goated

[old abyss]

Looking pretty dope.
I like these grunge and dirt details, the scratches as well.
Could you try metal edge wear to peel the paint around the edges?

A nice tip is to stack your layers as they're logically irl, só starting with a metallic plating base, then paint layers, followed by grunge and dust, so you can just fade top layers to expose the metal underneath.

[rough ginkgo]

I already have some metal edge wear, its just not that visible, im wondering if its the same issue with the wheatley model

[heady laurel]

Rust also has layered variations, different colors based on the damage caused by oxidation

[red panther]

My ass tryna figure out how y’all even achieve this level of detail rn 🫠

[heady laurel]

Substance does that for you lol

[red panther]

Idek what your using, blender?

[rough ginkgo]

that's substance in the screenshots

[heady laurel]

Model texturing is done through substance painter as shown by CR

[rough ginkgo]

it can be done in other apps but substance is really good at tweaking stuff, as long as you're using procedural materials

[heady laurel]

Blender could do procedurals and other complicated things pretty well

[red panther]

So substance painter just be making crazy detail like that, crazy asf

[rough ginkgo]

what is remix doing 💀

ughh

guess im doing directx normals

oh wait

ok well then i have no idea what's breaking the normals between substance and ingame

[red panther]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-stare-bald-stare-crazy-stare-when-the-mfw-gif-8224474624274764194

I did not read the text at the bottom

Just ignore it

[old abyss]

Overlapping uvs?

[rough ginkgo]

it shouldnt be? im using the UV of the original mesh

i tried messing with padding in substance's export options but it doesnt seem to help

[old abyss]

They're so small it doesn't make a difference tbh.
Id crank the wear level up and play around with the values to see if the peeling increases

[old abyss]

Have you confirmed in blender if the UVs are fine?

It's also a common thing to optimize texture space by reusing uv spaces (overlapping uvs)

[red panther]

Does it look fine in tool kit?

[rough ginkgo]

yup, looks fine when using the exported maps from substance

[heady laurel]

I think he's going for texture replacements, so it's unlikely that mesh replacements would take place here

[old abyss]

All the 6 faces are overlapping into a single spot.
What does your octahedral texture looks like?

[rough ginkgo]

where would I check that at?

[heady laurel]

In your ingested folder

[rough ginkgo]

oh like OTH_Normal?

[heady laurel]

yeah

[rough ginkgo]

here is the OTH and the substance export

[old abyss]

Weird. Should be alright. Maybe you applied the textures without restarting the game.
When you do that remix messes up memory

If you do that and the texture resolution changes*

[rough ginkgo]

tried restarting, its still there

would these weird stripes in the normal/OTH be what's showing in remix?

they're not there in substance itself

only in exported maps

[old abyss]

That is very odd. The uvs around the glitching spots is a bit weird, like, the are overlapping quads kinda of inside out, idk

I'm on my phone rn, can't help much

[buoyant venture]

If anyone wants to help out with the Portal 2 remaster: #team-project-requests
Right now we're a team of 7 and would appreciate any help

[safe elk]

7? Crazy

[buoyant venture]

[old abyss]

Dope. Portal 2 is a great passion of mine. I'd be down to help with whatever I can, though I already got too much on my plate rn. Can always poke around with counseling and troubleshooting.

You guys could ask the portal/prelude rtx team to port all their assets to start with and then sort out which assets still needs remastering

[buoyant venture]

We're currently waiting on the asset thing, but I have already brought it up

But, yeah, we'd appreciate any help we can get

[old abyss]

Currently what are the biggest issues, milestones, goals, etc.?

[ornate heath]

You can join the portal 2 rtx server @old abyss

[buoyant venture]

Currently, we just started, the whole team just got access to the early build. @rough ginkgo has been doing some asset work as you've seen
The goal right now is to get Chapter 1 remastered for an Announcement trailer and then from there widen our search for Team help outside of the Remix server

Biggest issue is waiting on the permission for Portal RTX assets

[frail lily]

Here is a cool reference for an abandoned and overgrown office/factory building https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7XEa7tC7xU&pp=ygURb2xpdmV0dGkgZG93bmZhbGw%3D

[frosty cargo]

I can't believe portal 2 actually works, that's so cool

[heady laurel]

not without some game modifications, it's the usual xorxor wizardry that made it happen

[drifting temple]

I can't believe portal 2 actually works, that's so cool

[buoyant venture]

I can't believe portal 2 actually works, that's so cool

[naive edge]

.. and it only took my sanity 😂

[old abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-gamora-what-did-it-cost-gif-14001403

[naive edge]

Hey @warped sierra, I've noticed that the GameCapture is trying to capture meshes that were spawned via the remixapi, thus interpreting their material as LegacyMaterial. The colorTexture of the LegacyMaterial is unset so when it tries to export the dds, I get a nullptr access.

Is it worth it to apply some band-aid (checking for a nullptr in GameCapturer::CaptureInstances before creating a new instance) or is there any ongoing work in that regard? Depending on that, I might create a PR or only an issue

[naive edge]

Another question: would it be possible to make a prim visible through all objects (like disabling zwrite / depth testing in raster)?
Would need that for the portal overlays that are visible through walls 🫣

[drifting temple]

You could set them as UI

[naive edge]

Negative. That would render everything afterwards as UI

would have to render the overlays as the last world mesh and that would require quite a lot of work

[drifting temple]

I'm not sure if remix has that kind of functionality

Because ray tracing doesn't require a depth buffer

Or at least does not use it for the main rendering

[warped sierra]

Ah, I suspect that's unintended - for the same reason we require replacements to be disabled when capturing, we just don't have any code to handle capturing the non-legacy materials. Please file an issue for it, and it's probably worth making a band-aid if it's getting in your way

[warped sierra]

I believe world-space UI is the answer here, not sure tho. You basically want it to be UI without forcing the following draw calls to be UI. If the world space UI category doesn't work, may need to either adapt it or introduce a new category for that

tho anything drawn that way wouldn't light up the scene...

[naive edge]

Will do 👍

As for the static overlays, world space UI doesn't achieve that effect. All it does is make the surface somewhat emissive. It not lighting up the scene would actually be preferred! I'll look into it 👍

[warped sierra]

hmm, well if you can get the Source engine code to draw that after the rest of the scene you can just mark it UI

Failing that, we'll probably need to add either

1. add a new instance category to mark something as mid-frame UI draw (i.e. treat is as UI but don't force the following draw calls to also be UI
2. add code to detect draws that would behave this way (I assume some combination of zWrite status?) and just force those to raster
3. add a mode where marking something as UI doesn't force all following calls to be UI (camera analysis should still make the normal UI stuff draw as UI)

[kind lance]

Having trouble understanding the difference between 1 and 3. But either way an option to not have subsequent drawcalls behave as UI would be extremely helpful. Probably for a whole lot of games

[warped sierra]

1 is a new category
3 changes how the existing UI category behaves using a checkbox

[kind lance]

Is there any reason to make separate options vs just doing 3?

In my project there's one UI texture where marking it appropriately makes the rest work too, but it would be very trivial to mark each one if I needed

[naive edge]

3 wouldn't be useful for me as that wouldn't work well for portal 2 (because of the way the ui is rendered)

and that might also break existing games/mods so I'd stay away from that approach

[kind lance]

1 is definitely safer for sure

[warped sierra]

If the game works fine using the camera-based UI detection, 3 might be fine. and I wouldn't just ignore 2 as an option - if there's a unique set of flags for this type of draw call (which I imagine there must be for a raster call that draws over everything else ignoring depth), then you might be able to just auto detect these and not need to categorize them.

1 is definitely the safest option, since it would only do anything to specific draw calls you choose

[worthy pendant]

its so cool to see a big brand like Nvidia work with the community like this, adding new features for a game that wasnt even thought to be remixable

[naive edge]

Indeed! I really appreciate that as well. Much 💚

[worthy pendant]

say do you have pre made configs for portal 2? I've seen your footage through act 1 and saw you gave some characters light sources and are handling various shaders and material definitions, if I sub to the patreon will I get all that? cause I want to try portal 2 I just want to see what its like with neccessary light sources for now

though I might have a go at some of act 3, old aperture is my favorite

also sorry its kofi not patreon

[naive edge]

It does have a few lights added via a pretty basic remix mod or the textures itself have a light attached to them (like wheatly) but you might need to also tag the potato on the gun to be a light source in some levels

[worthy pendant]

aight, I just want basic lights to start at least for the beginning of the game so I can play around a bit

[naive edge]

But it is in a pretty good state right now. You will have some light bleeding on levels that I have not yet touched tho

[worthy pendant]

sounds expected, probably gonna set skyboxes to be as dark as can be (assuming I can) so I dont have too much from that, otherwise I do wanna mess with certain parts of below aperture, but if there is some stuff in the first act or two of the game by default thats fine for me

[naive edge]

You can do that yea. You'll probably have to turn off the fallback light of remix as well

[worthy pendant]

aight, thats fine

I'm so excited

[safe elk]

aw hell yeah

[drifting temple]

So how do I play this

[safe elk]

check pins

[heady laurel]

Get xoxor compat files

[drifting temple]

Ok but. It's just a bunch of yap.

I don't see a link

[heady laurel]

The ko fi link

[safe elk]

Its literally the first ine

[heady laurel]

Has it

[drifting temple]

Yes but that implies that I have to pay for it

[safe elk]

and get access to the compatibility mod early

[heady laurel]

Yes

[safe elk]

Yep

[drifting temple]

I'm broke

[safe elk]

F

[drifting temple]

Paid mods

[safe elk]

Its only for early access

It'll be free on release

[drifting temple]

[heady laurel]

Yeah

Cmon man support my man

He's doing it for free

[drifting temple]

I can't even support me rn

[heady laurel]

Portal 2 wasn't even compatible

[drifting temple]

Genuinely

[safe elk]

Guyz don't support this man I payed on Kofi and my bank tol me it wuz a scam!!!

[heady laurel]

I can't even do it, doesn't even let me choose the debit card option

It says payment process failed

[safe elk]

Yeah that means your bank flagged it as a scam

[heady laurel]

Bro

I didn't even put my details

💀

[safe elk]

☠️

[drifting temple]

Jazz cash me 200. I'll pay for u. Trust

[heady laurel]

I got sadapay

[drifting temple]

That too works

[red panther]

Is it still scamming if no one finds out?

[drifting temple]

A crime is only a crime when others find out

[safe elk]

Good to know
-# always sleep with one eye open at night

[red panther]

👍🏼

[naive edge]

@drifting temple Great community 🔥
Please join the discord server mentioned in the kofi post 👍

[drifting temple]

I unfortunately lack the funds required to do so

oh wait

[naive edge]

It was paid for you

[heady laurel]

How did you pay

[drifting temple]

Here's the neat part...

[naive edge]

Will that be enough to pay for the electricity required to play for 1 hour? 😂

[drifting temple]

Hopefully

[kind lance]

@drifting temple TLDR if you join the server for it you'll get access for free bc it was paid for by vulpes so the people working on it could use it

I think

[heady laurel]

Is electricity super expensive in Germany

[naive edge]

~35ct / kWh

[heady laurel]

How much is it in freedom dollars, I presume it's euro

[naive edge]

38ct usd

[heady laurel]

That's expensive

[naive edge]

we were at 50-60 ct last year

[heady laurel]

No fricking way lmao, that's too much

[kind lance]

The US is extremely energy independent. We're at the highest levels of oil production in the country's history which is what makes our prices so much lower. I believe in Europe they mainly relied on Russian imports

[frail lily]

The US is also highly reliant on nuclear power, Germany if I'm not mistaken is decommissioning all nuclear power plants

[kind lance]

I don't think that's true with the US bit. We've been lacking on nuclear. The German stuff blows my mind because for smaller countries that's such a good solution

[frail lily]

Yeah I don't want nuclear plants in Italy, they're very good in theory but don't go too well with mismanagement and criminal meddling

[kind lance]

I've never heard of stuff like that. Is organized crime a problem in Italy?

[frail lily]

we're still decomissioning - and paying billions - a power plant that was closed in the 80s

[kind lance]

Jeez. I feel like that would be cheaper to operate than decomish

[frail lily]

organized crime is a problem in all of Europe and beyond, you don't hear much about it if you don't look for it but the 'Ndrangheta (Calabrian mafia) has spread everywhere, they don't look like the Godfather anymore and have largely transitioned to white collar crime

it doesn't make the news because they don't shoot or blow up people as much, and it's because they don't need to and it doesn't suit their needs anymore

and the big problem is they take contracts, now when it's a tunnel or a road and it collapses, it's a tragedy and 10s of people die, but if they get their hands on a contract for a nuclear power plant, there is no telling the damage it could cause, and believe me, they would get their hands on that contract

[buoyant venture]

I think once Neclear fusion is unlocked, the U.S will hop on that

[frail lily]

You know the US is like Wakanda, right? It doesn't actually exist.

[blissful fulcrum]

Fusion is sadly kind of a joke it has a fuel sourcing problem (tritium is hard to get your hands on) not to mention the fact that it's been 60 years and it's still "10-20 years away"(ITER keeps getting pushed back right now it's 2033 for first plasma not even power generation). Also that's the first valid point I've ever heard for decommissioning nuclear fission plants. So I guess if crime is an issue go enhanced geothermal aka dig a hole in the ground to boil water because the Earth gets hotter the deeper you go and use the steam to run a turbine. Should work nearly anywhere if you dig deep enough, it even uses most of the same tech from oil and gas well drilling. Although we should probably get back on topic or move this to #offtopic lmao

[buoyant venture]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-dies-gif-24297438

[gaunt surge]

does this work for other games on the portal 2 engine branch

[red panther]

CR tried it for half life 2, it dosen't work very well, but your welcome to try

[buoyant venture]

Considering they said "Portal 2 engine branch" maybe they mean games like Portal Stories Mel?

Though there's some Portal 2 mods that go up to DX11

[rough ginkgo]

if the mod doesnt change much on the p2 engine branch, it should work (provided its dx9)

[red panther]

Half Life and portal still run on very similar engines

[safe elk]

Give or take a few years

[rough ginkgo]

p2 engine is nowhere similar to hl2

[safe elk]

:kekw:

[safe elk]

They both are called source soooooo

🤫

Lol

[red panther]

obvisouly

[safe elk]

Its nowhere near the hl2 branch btw

[red panther]

there's a good handfull of similarites

like, P1 is prob really similiar, I mean, they littearly have a folder named "hl2" in the root directory

[safe elk]

That doesn't mean they are similar branches tho

[rough ginkgo]

how do i put this... its not

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Portal_2_engine_branch

[safe elk]

I found out the hard way it's not, bcuz my protogen mod doesn't work in both the p2 and p1/sfm branch

[safe elk]

.... the Stanley parable

[red panther]

got it

[red panther]

notice though, p1 isn't on there

[safe elk]

.......................

[red panther]

it isn't on there under availibity, portal 2 is

look at it, i'm not wrong

[safe elk]

https://tenor.com/view/joaquin-phoenix-smile-nervous-bipolar-depressed-gif-16287690

That's because portal 1 is not on the portal 2 branch

[rough ginkgo]

i just tried, i cant even run the game without rtx because my windows is bugged

it works on my laptop though but it doesnt have a RT capable GPU

stanley parable should "just work" for you though

iirc it doesnt have any major engine changes from P2

[safe elk]

"Just work" many bugs then?

[rough ginkgo]

about the same as p2

[safe elk]

Oor

[safe elk]

What abt with xors engine modifications

[red panther]

I checked they are on the same branch

[rough ginkgo]

ye it should work fine

[red panther]

and I just assumed p2 would use the same as 1

[rough ginkgo]

just need to edit gameinfo.txt to look like this

iirc xoxor's mod looks for the portal 2 window name

[safe elk]

Interesting

[rough ginkgo]

im trying some stuff on my end to get the game working lmao

[safe elk]

I don't even have the original Stanley parable sadly 😭

[rough ginkgo]

this is all i get 🥹

its nothing to do with remix

literally the game with 0 modifications

i really dont wanna reinstall windows for this 😭

[safe elk]

What abt a sp reinstall

[rough ginkgo]

nah its doing this for other p2 branch games too

its just exclusive to my pc

it runs fine on my laptop

[safe elk]

Damn

[rough ginkgo]

fuck this im pulling out the egpu enclosure

[safe elk]

I mean if you gift me the game i can try it out :kazuyano: jkjk

[rough ginkgo]

i just bought it myself lmao

i only had ultra deluxe prior

[red panther]

intrestingly, Titain Fall is on this list, it'd take a bit more work, but we are closer than we've ever been to a Titian Fall 2 RTX

[rough ginkgo]

its dx11

so no

🙂

[safe elk]

I'll prollg get it some time in the future if the rtx mod looks good enough

[red panther]

still closer than we were before this

[safe elk]

.

[red panther]

so we are still closer than we've ever been

by technicality

still far

[safe elk]

...

[kind lance]

relax mr copium

spare yourself the pain

[safe elk]

Hi auto

[rough ginkgo]

literally wont happen unless someone gets source code to the game to add a dx9 renderer

[kind lance]

hi bailey

[rough ginkgo]

or make a sophisticated custom renderer for FF 💀

[red panther]

figured

[rough ginkgo]

the chances are so low

it wont happenm

[red panther]

I was aware of that

[safe elk]

😭

[red panther]

but closer than we were in 2022

[safe elk]

How are you on this fine day

[safe elk]

In what way

[rough ginkgo]

what does that have to do anything, like automata said, stop sniffing the copium so hard

[red panther]

it's a zeptometer closer to it than ever before, by 2055 it should begin development

[kind lance]

suffering bc retopologizing a clone trooper but I'm also experimenting and the tri count limit for skeletal meshes might be much higher than the republic commando modding community thought

[safe elk]

Its.... no

No

[red panther]

Might not be with remix

in the sense of a remaster

[rough ginkgo]

AI generated video frames

in realtime

bam

[red panther]

crazy work

[safe elk]

Ew

https://tenor.com/view/giygas-cat-melon-cat-psychotic-gif-25770926

[red panther]

I mean, if they get like, WAY BETTER, wouldn't be a horrible idea

https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-eats-a-toilet-gif-11318431286939371419

[rough ginkgo]

the reality of someone making a reshade shader or similar to have AI generated frames in realtime is not so far lmfao

probably doable with a 5090 @ 480p if i had to guess

given enough time

[red panther]

We still have alot of work to do

before then

[safe elk]

Alot of more images to steal train with!

[red panther]

we're at the eating toilet stage it seems, a long way before we're reshading games

man I need an ai that can detect that I DIDN'T MEAN TO CLICK THE FUCKING ENTER BUTTON

[safe elk]

Btw sorry for the late reply this sounds fun

[red panther]

cause the day be coming to a close, Happy Halloween everybody

[safe elk]

Anyways this is the p2 branch

@rough ginkgo lemme know if you get any luck with tsp

[rough ginkgo]

if i want to get anywhere im gonna have to reinstall windows lmfao

i tried my amd gpu and nvidia gpu, game still crashes

oddly portal 2 is fine so im wondering if these older p2 engine games have some kind of compatibility issue with modern windows

im gonna try hooking up my 2080 to my laptop and see if it works there

wish me luck

[red panther]

Did you try to a diffrent cpu, maybe to intel to amd or vice versa? (cause sometimes what I'm saying is beinging taken to seriously this is a joke, not that funny of one, but a joke)

[rough ginkgo]

the laptop has a pretty old intel cpu but i really doubt that's making the difference of old p2 engine game's launching there and not my modern desktop

both computers have different versions of windows 11 so I'm placing my bets on that

[safe elk]

Check for updates maybe

[worthy pendant]

OMG portal stories mel RTX tho

[rough ginkgo]

i have windows update ripped out of both of them 🙃

laptop is running the more modern 24H2 LTSC while the desktop is running some version from 2021

[gaunt surge]

Specifically INFRA. I believe it started as a portal 2 mod and was made into its own game. It's a beautiful urban exploration game that would prob look awesome with rtx

Lots of outdoor environments though

[rough ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/gloop-gif-25555044

[safe elk]

2080 is crazy

[red panther]

2080, the gpu with "ray tracing" 🙂

still great for 1080p

[rough ginkgo]

holding onto it until 5090

[red panther]

Ima wait till the 9090

[rough ginkgo]

demo launches

didnt wait to download the full ver

[worthy pendant]

I had a 2070 and it did ok for some of the lower stuff, tbh its only the 2060 that really suffers

[safe elk]

:oooooooooooooo

YES

[rough ginkgo]

its still rasterized

for some reason the asi is not hooking

[safe elk]

Interesting tho

Nonetheless

[rough ginkgo]

that was quick

hmm

i wonder what it takes for it to hook

maybe exe name?

[safe elk]

MH_OK

[rough ginkgo]

ima try moving the main folder to portal 2

im hoping the engine is close enough i can get away with launching it with -game

[gaunt surge]

the kofi server invite is dead is there a new one

[safe elk]

Whoop

Xor is asleep rn you'll have to ask in the morning

[rough ginkgo]

👀

even has the p2 exe icon

still rasterized

and the asi isnt loading 🥹

[red panther]

100%

[rough ginkgo]

omfg

i got the ASI to load

the window title has to be named exactly PORTAL 2 - Direct3D 9

[worthy pendant]

is the OG stanley parable really made in source?

[rough ginkgo]

yea

p2 engine

[worthy pendant]

dang

[rough ginkgo]

👀

game crashes on map load but we're getting there

[blissful fulcrum]

It uses worldportals quite extensively to create the non-euclidean spaces you see in the game

[safe elk]

So technically tsp (not the og) is still a sourcemod?

[rough ginkgo]

👀

this is the demo version with portal 2's modern dlls

ingame

path traced but looks like hell lol

lights arent working

[worthy pendant]

true, makes sense then

dang ultra delux is made in unity, so the only way to really get RT with tsp is with the OG

[rough ginkgo]

hopefully we can get it working outside of using portal 2's engine. (not to be confused with TSP's older p2 engine which isn't working completely atm)

[worthy pendant]

meh, ultra delux in particular is definitely too new, but it seems any DX9 games should work since its DX9 that has the fall back fixed function mode for shaders

would be cool to see this in like borderlands 2

[rough ginkgo]

i feel a game like that and other ue3 games would be quite the undertaking

mirrors edge would be the more likely ue3 game to get working if modded similarly to portal 2

[worthy pendant]

true, it would be really hard to get to the code of those games

source is much easier to modify in that regard

time to go digging through the list of DX9 games

[heady laurel]

You guys got Stanley parable working?!

[frail lily]

It's a great card for people like me who don't just game with their PC, RT cores-accelerated OptiX blows CUDA out of the water, consider that in some scenes a 2060 using "RTX" OptiX was as fast as a Titan RTX rendering with CUDA

[worthy pendant]

I never realized they had orange lights until I actually looked at them in remix

[rough ginkgo]

omfg i finally fixed it, older p2 engine games dont like CPUs with 2 NUMA nodes and high core counts

i made a custom windows boot entry that only has 8 CPUs and i can go ingame now on my desktop

CSGO pax 2011 build is based on p2 engine

gets ingame but no visuals

[echo dirge]

how do you do it?

[rough ginkgo]

oops i messed up my color coding on that lol

[echo dirge]

i wonder if we can make left4dead works

i tried and the game just crash on load everytime

😦

[rough ginkgo]

xoxor got it working a bit back

i dont think he released anything though

[echo dirge]

i tried this and games like left4dead and postall 3 still crash on load for me 😦

[rough ginkgo]

probably best to wait until the actual mod gets released so it can be targeted towards other source games

[heady laurel]

what the

😶

xoxor unleashed a beast with his source engine trickery

[buoyant venture]

Left 4 Dead is a different engine branch

So it's going to require different work arounds

[analog copper]

you might be slow

❤️

[red panther]

Nah I was tested 3 times, but I am right still

[red panther]

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Orange_Box_(engine_branch)

[safe elk]

That's the Xbox 360/ps2 orange box branch iirc

[buoyant venture]

*PS3

I wonder what branch the original Xbox was on

[rough ginkgo]

og xbox had its own branch developed alongside the 2004 one

[red panther]

None the less, tf2, half life 2 and portal 1 still all used them, and the one thing in all 3 root directories is the hl2 folder, you maybe even could try tf2 RTX with the portal RTX method, that’s pushing it though

[buoyant venture]

People already got tf2 working with Remix I think

[red panther]

They did, and I know they did, I’m just you could

The whole point of remix is to be original, there’s no hurt in trying

[red panther]

Actually it seems for a period it was on windows as well

I can’t be for sure, and I could be wrong, and I probably am, but isn’t it a little coincidental that all 3 games use orange box and they all have the hl2 folder?

And even in the high chance I am wrong, you can understand where I’m coming from right?

[safe elk]

No, they all have branched off into their respective differences 😄 while they did all belong to the orange box, over the years they've changed around their engines n stuff

The orange box would be the collective physical orange box from my guess again

But I could be wrong sont quote me on that, just nevause they have similarities does not mean they'll work the same

[red panther]

Still, this time, for the first time, I’m not tripping

[safe elk]

I'm not even going to bother with you anymore

[red panther]

It’s a moment is history

You do that

[safe elk]

Its worse than a brick wall

[red panther]

Haha

That’s a new one, it’s original, I like it

The worst are repetitive insults

Your a original person Bailey, don’t change that

Cya

I’ll leave on that, the best note I can ig

[fluid bison]

well, they did, but looking at disscusion, it looks like project is dead, but i did logo anyway today

[analog copper]

64 bit version bricked it

plus its performance was so fucking bad there was no point

[fluid bison]

Well, there might be a chance

[analog copper]

theres a forward button

💋

[rough ginkgo]

when xoxor4d releases his mod, ill be using it as the base instead

[analog copper]

and yeah cr the goat

i wonder if his meathod allows for more directx 9.0c games

or just

source engine

[rough ginkgo]

just source

[analog copper]

[naive edge]

well the way I'm doing this could be applied to all dx9 games really

[analog copper]

really

[buoyant venture]

Maybe newer Telltale games can work

[analog copper]

poker night

[rough ginkgo]

1st walking dead could definitely work

iirc its SM2 when using the lowest settings

[naive edge]

sm3 is not a problem if it's really simple (eg. cod games)

[analog copper]

do you know what this is

[analog copper]

alot of them are simple

below 2009

[naive edge]

minhook failed to initialize some hooks

[analog copper]

it makes a funny beeping noise

i thought there was a bomb in my house

[naive edge]

is this my asi?

[lyric summit]

Different patch moment?

[analog copper]

ya

[lyric summit]

proofing with aob caching like it's a crapcom game

[analog copper]

[lyric summit]

The method being "manually figure out how the game works and hook it up to remix through ffp or the api"

[analog copper]

you know what i mean

[lyric summit]

I know, hence me telling you what he did

[analog copper]

oh i thought you were being sarcastic

i cant think when im sick lol

[naive edge]

The method @pallid hatch could maybe be used to make it somewhat universal. Simply hook the DrawIndexedPrimitive method, get the vertex decl of each drawcall ... set FVF accordingly ... unsure about the world transform tho

[lyric summit]

Depending on how much things changed game to game, his research might be useful to cut on some work, might not. If the class alyouts are the same, might just be a question of adjusting a couple offsets to hook and then everything else just the same member variables at the same offsets from a class instance address

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Would be real lucky tho

Meaning source games, forgot to mention

[naive edge]

I'd say the ff rendering of models and setting camera transforms can be achieved in 1-2 hours for any source game given a good base to cross ref with

the individual challenges for each game .. the small stuff .. is what really takes time

[lyric summit]

Ye

[heady laurel]

how many source games do we have listed so far

like excluding source 2, i think there's a chance for csgo

[analog copper]

csgo 100%m

all source games prolly work now

same base

[rough ginkgo]

there is the source leak of CSGO 2011

i could probably get it working

[buoyant venture]

Jurassic Park

[buoyant venture]

It doesn't work for some reason, same with Jurassic Park which goes down to SM1.2

It has to be the engine itself

[naive edge]

we don't do that here 👻

[rough ginkgo]

ah right

[heady laurel]

no leaks please

actually could we just test regular csgo if steam didn't remove it in favor of csgo2

[analog copper]

its still on steam

[rough ginkgo]

i've already tried csgo on steam

it doesnt hook properly

[heady laurel]

i mean, you could risk getting banned IF it works

[rough ginkgo]

dw im probably not gonna mess with it lol

[analog copper]

-insecure

[buoyant venture]

https://tenor.com/view/springward-hacking-hacker-hack-octopus-gif-27439256

For science

[analog copper]

just like i almost did with tf2

lol

[naive edge]

Some shader to fixed function hackery. Before with shaders:

and with FF (still need to fix the color):

this is done by editing each vertex in the vertex buffer and doing what the vertex / pixel shader would normally do:
https://pastebin.com/RFNrdvhe

[drifting temple]

What's the difference?

[naive edge]

[safe elk]

PEAK

[blissful fulcrum]

That's incredible gg!

[red panther]

That’s amazing

[pallid hatch]

Yeah, I tried to make my methods fairly generic, not a ton depends on a complete reverse engineering of the game logic in my case with the exception of the world transforms like xor mentioned. It could be a starting base for a few projects. But the reality is I got very lucky, since the shaders are practically pass through formats of simple declarations on each draw call. But as soon as it gets just a tiny bit more complicated then that, yeah, gonna need some work (on a individual basis)

I do however think a tool could be developed which can tell you those things early on before you waste a bunch of time. Perhaps even some kind of profiling runtime that discovers which path to take with the correct information and data

Anyways all that being said. Games which were ported from PS2 to PC might be kinda worth looking into, since many of them use this similar pass through declaration as it follows the PlayStation format

[torpid musk]

Amazing works!

[naive edge]

Proper 🔦 using the remix api 🌞

[fluid bison]

Its almost like if that scene was done for RTX

[red panther]

Aperture Labs Open Ai

[midnight spear]

🤔

[red panther]

There might be a portal gun

[frail lily]

I call it "The Merinos Cabal"

[red panther]

The difference is they sell wool, and open Ai is like developing an Ai rn that for the first time genuinely thinks for its self (Galdos)

It’s gonna “replace chat gpt”

No 5.0, an ai that can think for its self

[frail lily]

Wait, are you being serious with this?

[red panther]

No

They are making an Ai like that tho

99% chance there’s gonna be no portal irl

But if that Ai some how ends up in Elons androids, get your hoses ready to spray the Mfs down with some water

[sleek bay]

i really appreciate you keeping the jokes and cutting around them. loads better than running up to glados while jumping cutting each line as you fly from one bit to the next like a hyperactive 8 year old on sugar

[misty monolith]

how do i set rtx up is it just the same as hl2 or what

[misty monolith]

nvm

[misty monolith]

it crashes on load can somebody help

[naive edge]

Remix does not support portal 2 out of the box. You need a separate compatibility mod that is not yet out to the public (check pins)

[misty monolith]

yea i forgor

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-i-forgot-i-forgor-gif-22449575

[misty monolith]

ok i downloaded everything i think but now the menu wont pop up

[drifting temple]

[misty monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-gif-24012485

[safe elk]

Did you change the settings in game right too?

[misty monolith]

what should i change

[naive edge]

don't bother .. he does not have the compatibility mod

[safe elk]

I see

[misty monolith]

bruhhhhhhh

[safe elk]

💔it don't work without it buddy

[misty monolith]

come on wait so i have to pay for it i guess

[safe elk]

Yeah

[naive edge]

or just wait until it's released

[misty monolith]

i would support you just dont have a dollar release isnt like a long time for that

[naive edge]

honest question .. how are you playing pathtraced games in the first place

[misty monolith]

my dad gave me the pc

[safe elk]

Release is 2000 years in March

[misty monolith]

just the job market in iceland is dog shit bc of reasons that i wont say cus il be called a racist im not tho

[safe elk]

Spongebob cave scene

[misty monolith]

yes

[buoyant venture]

999999 years

[last raft]

how'd you get your windows to look like xp

[rough ginkgo]

https://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/

[naive edge]

First public release: https://github.com/xoxor4d/p2-rtx/releases/tag/1.4 👍

[cunning shoal]

portal stories mel when

[buoyant venture]

Same engine, so you could just try it

Unlike modern Portal 2 mods which run on DX11

[cunning shoal]

will try

just needs an hour to download

[buoyant venture]

An hour

[cunning shoal]

my internet is pretty bad

[cunning shoal]

why am i unable to purchase portal 2 on steam?

[uneven lark]

Why this error showing?

[naive edge]

You are the first one with that error. Can you post the log files found in rtx-remix/logs?

[naive edge]

Mhh seeing that the runtime stops after resetting the swap chain ... there was a very recent commit in that regard.
Might be worth to try this runtime build: https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/11808715400 (just to see if that lets you start the game)

[tropic lava]

Is it expected for end users to have their games look like this image or is it normal to have transparent objects/portals not render correctly at the moment?
Never mind, it appears I am stupid.

[naive edge]

I assume you forgot to install the remix-mod itself?

[tropic lava]

Yes, though alpha clip stuff like the foliage still isn't working.

[naive edge]

That is a bug some people have and some don't unfortunately. I'm trying to fix it but it's hard if I cant replicate that on my system

[tropic lava]

Fair enough, good luck with it.

[grave dirge]

want me to give it a playtest? ive always wanted to see portal 2 in rtx so im more than willing to help out!

[tropic lava]

The public release is available from the github linked above.

[grave dirge]

i know im downloading it right now :D

ya think a 4060Ti 16G would be powerful enough? i hope so

[rough ginkgo]

yes

[grave dirge]

portal rtx was quite slow but i played it before my CPU upgrade so

[rough ginkgo]

p2 rtx is pretty well optimized, even compared to p1 rtx

[grave dirge]

:D i cant wait

i do software dev as my job btw so im willing to help any way i can (im a junior so i dont know much but i like to give a small helping hand to things i like :3)

[nocturne ibex]

Are AMD GPu's supported ?

[naive edge]

Should work just fine (besides general remix incompatibilities like volumetric fog)

[cunning shoal]

sadly portal reloaded doesnt work with just dropping the files in

[naive edge]

Well it is "working" but portals obv. need treatment. The compatibility mod expects and uses the static portal overlays to render the actual portals .. mayve that mod disabled that functionality or uses differently named materials?

[nocturne ibex]

Okay, gonna give it a try and look at performance

[cunning shoal]

same with portal stories mel

[lyric scarab]

portal 2 crashes immediately after launch... perhaps it would be useful if I sent you the logs? @naive edge

[naive edge]

yes please

[naive edge]

@lyric scarab Mhh not that helpful. Any error message or beep? Do you see the titlescreen / window title?
Does it start if you rename/delete: bin/d3d9.dll, bin/winmm.dll, bin/_rtx.asi ?

If it starts, try setting your res to 1080p / windowed and try again

[lyric scarab]

I will try to rename/delete these files. The only thing I can detail at the moment is that when starting the bat file, it skips the intro logos and music, and crashes just before/at the start of animation of the portal 2 menu.

[naive edge]

Just wanna make sure but .. you are using the latest steam version? Asking because it's on your desktop ;D

[lyric scarab]

no idea, I'll check

[cunning shoal]

that sure does look sick

[lyric scarab]

just installed the latest version, everything works fine, thanks!

the only issue I'm seeing now is that it looks like multi-core rendering doesn't want to be activated ? when there are physical elements on the screen, I get framerate drops but my gpu isn't used to 100%.

[naive edge]

That is not supported and forced off. Larger maps are expected to be quite heavy with the limited culling going on .. it's something we have to live with for now

[blissful fulcrum]

It uses moveable worldportals for the "time portals"

[limpid pike]

Hi guys I'm new here. Just downloaded the public release for Portal 2 RTX and I'm having an issue where the portals have no textures. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[naive edge]

did you install the contents of both zips?
You need the contents of the _remix_mod.zip if you want portals to work correctly

[limpid pike]

I figured it out. I extracted the whole zip so it copied the portal2-root folder instead of the rtx-remix folder into root

[naive edge]

I should probably get rid of that first folder in the zip yea 😜

@ripe hazel You should post your video in #showcase 😜
What res. are you playing at? Looks so crisp

[heady laurel]

https://youtu.be/yORRCNjgVxw?si=TwlqKHKCqAkq3g7f

That looks amazing Indeed

[frail lily]

@naive edge Is the bug at 3:45 already known? The portal is behind decals on the wall.

[naive edge]

I have not marked each and every decal as a decal .. that will fix that

[ripe hazel]

4k with DLSS Balanced I think. It's really amazing how clean it looks. You only notice some breakup in low light conditions with fast motion where the RR doesn't quite catch up.

[naive edge]

What gpu do you have to be able to run this in 4k

[ripe hazel]

I'm running a 4090. It would be interesting to hear how it runs on other cards

[buoyant venture]

On my RX 7600 FSR 3.1 Ultra Performance and Medium RT settings, I get 30-40fps all at 1080p

[safe elk]

on my 4070 laptop, I can run 4k at 3 fps

[buoyant venture]

Really wish I had a 7900XTX

[red panther]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB3XmNPAJ6o&t=11s&ab_channel=WATER

I made a video explaining how to set everything up

@thin geode you mind pinning this

[red panther]

On my potato battery, i get 30 fps at 16 bit

(GlaDOS reference)

[naive edge]

You could have mentioned that copying the sound cache file will skip the long first load. I’d also suggest not turning on fallback light as that will look pretty ugly on maps where culling is not yet handled 😜

[thin geode]

if xorxor thinks this is good enough, i will pin it

[naive edge]

It is also missing the part about setting up the required graphic settings

[red panther]

I understand the fallback light didn't know about the load thing, the fallback light makes certain parts so dark, and i feel there's gonna be alot of people who just want to play the game and not mod the game, we already have a guy doing that today, I'd think, atleast they'd enjoy it not pitch black at some spots over pitch black, but if you think it'll really cause a serious preformance drop I'll change the video

[red panther]

Yeah I'll do some editing

just to be 100% certain on the graphics settings so I don't fuck up, it's just the settings turned all the way down esseintally right

[naive edge]

Just read the instructions on GitHub

[red panther]

🤦‍♂️

should of thought of that

[thin geode]

you want the ko-fi link pinned still?

[red panther]

Should I include the ASI loader too?

might be a bit till I can get back with a new version of the video

[analog copper]

3060 performance runs perfectly

[naive edge]

no no! Thanks for re-pinning the first post 👍

[naive edge]

wdym? You obv. have to install it .. I don't think that you have to mention it as it comes bundled with the download

[frosty cargo]

This is so cool

[ionic silo]

the fact that portal 2 standalone holds up very well to this rtx version

is incredible

[heady laurel]

The actual possibility of every directx9.0c game to be made compatible with remix using game side modifications is pretty wild. But it requires lots of manual work.

[naive edge]

Thanks a bunch 🙏

[uneven lark]

Now it's working

[naive edge]

With the runtime build I've linked? If so, could you try the one that ships with the compatibility mod again?

[frail lily]

I don't think it's possible with every game and I suspect for a good number it would instead be easier to implement the renderer directly into the game rather than making the game compatible with Remix. But maybe I'm talking out my ass

[heady laurel]

My bad, some directx9.0c games are very shader dependent and the chances of them working are slim. But some few popular games could be worked on. All we need is an army of xoxor4d clones to achieve this

[frail lily]

We really do! And surely Portal 2 isn't the only one, xoxor4d told me this should work with every source game, and in fact Black Mesa, just by using his launch arguments and config, went much farther than ever before.

That's a polished game that would really need just a PBR conversion and I think it would give Remix a boost in popularity, which could result in other skilled people to get interested

[heady laurel]

Can we reuse some roughness maps and normals directly from base portal 2? I bet it would look okay enough and not many changes or customs assets would have to be made

[frail lily]

I don't know what format they use, but in theory it's totally possible, they're just textures

they could be fairly low res though

the other day I was looking at Black Mesa's headcrab texture and it's only 512x512

[heady laurel]

Effort to fix would take time. meanwhile games that already have some range of PBR maps could be reused to reduce time while also just looking nice

[heady laurel]

Yes, there are exceptions where you just have to remaster it manually

[frail lily]

I think it should be possible to just use a script when the maps are already available, though it would probably depend on naming scheme

if that's true, it would take like a couple hours, plus maybe manually fixing some things, but I don't know this for a fact, I'm speculating

[fluid bison]

https://tenor.com/view/200000-units-are-ready-million-more-well-on-the-way-gif-15836182220374518965

[frail lily]

Doesn't Titanfall/2 also use the source engine?

[heady laurel]

It does.

Technically it should work too

[naive edge]

@ripe hazel what about this one? It should also spawn a console window that prints info about the foliage .. do you mind posting a screenshot of that?

[ripe hazel]

Still seems to be happening

Anyone else here tried the mod and has issues with foliage alpha not rendering correctly?

[naive edge]

@ripe hazel thanks that! It at least confirms that the function handling that is called. Still weird. Could you re-test with this? (no longer spawns a console).
If this does not work, I'll try switching the shader thats used

[ripe hazel]

Still happens sadly.

On Github there is a screenshot with it working though: https://github.com/xoxor4d/p2-rtx/raw/develop/img/01.png So it could be still something on my end maybe?

This is how it looks for me

[naive edge]

Well yea its working for me and for others .. but is also broken for a few

[frail lily]

It's like Thor's hammer, you have to be worthy

[naive edge]

@ripe hazel this has to fix it or I'm out of ideas lmao. Put that into rtx-remix/mods/portal2rtx

[ripe hazel]

That fixed it! 🙌

[red panther]

Okay, I was just reading over the steps you have and it says to use the ASI Loader for ease of use, so I felt to make sure

[uneven lark]

My 3070 ti can't handle this

[buoyant venture]

https://tenor.com/view/invader-zim-no-lie-lies-gif-18993061

[uneven lark]

lower than 30fps at dlss ultra performance

[buoyant venture]

At what resolution because that's lower than my card

[rough ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/intel-pentium-inside-cpu-processor-intel-inside-gif-17715599

the cpu in question

[buoyant venture]

I can't remember the last time I used a Intel CPU

[rough ginkgo]

really the only reason a 3070 ti performs that poorly is a slow CPU or a bunch of crap running in the background

[safe elk]

My satellite has this cpu

[uneven lark]

i7 12th gen

cpu taking 20%

[rough ginkgo]

specific model?

a desktop or laptop series

like a 12700K or 12700H

[uneven lark]

i7-12700H

[rough ginkgo]

you sure its not throttling while running remix?

[uneven lark]

1440p

[uneven lark]

yes

Gpu is the issue i guess

[rough ginkgo]

no lol

unless the gpu is throttling as well lol

[uneven lark]

I will check later

[buoyant venture]

Ah, I'm at 1080p

[rough ginkgo]

even with 1440p @ DLSS ultra perf, he should be getting decent performance in most maps

my 2080 can do DLSS perf/balanced @ 1080p with around 30-40fps in the intro maps

[safe elk]

My 4070 laptop is running at 70 at performance

[rough ginkgo]

i assume with FG?

[safe elk]

Yea

[analog copper]

my 3060 can run it...

[buoyant venture]

What I'd give for FSR frame gen

[cunning shoal]

same, i get like 20-30fps with dlss ultra performance

[analog copper]

i get 60 with balanced

[cunning shoal]

how

[cunning shoal]

this is with dlss balanced

[red panther]

could be like 720p 10 fps

no dlss

then with it around 60

prob comes down to res

[buoyant venture]

All of this is still better off than mine

[cunning shoal]

welp gonna a buy a 50 series card next year

[buoyant venture]

I'll probably buy another AMD card knowing my wallet

[red panther]

i'll prob not buy another card until the 70 series

[naive edge]

https://www.dsogaming.com/mods/you-can-now-play-portal-2-with-rtx-remix-path-tracing/
Comments will be 🔥😂

[drifting temple]

Oh shit. The same guy who made the first article on my mod. The comment section was crazy.

[nocturne ibex]

Tried it on my OC 7900 XTX at 4K with "performance" scaling ( so 50 % ) , cannot manage 30 FPS in a lot of areas unfortunately. Maybe i didn't tweak enough the settings.
Could you provide the same " simple" menu than Portal RTX before switching to advanced one ? Because in the advanced one, except for the scaling, i didn't find the other settings i tweaked in Portal RTX. That may explain why i couldn't achieve my performance goal

[naive edge]

I think there is a button in the top right corner that gets you to that simple menu. Not sure what it’s called from the top of my head tho

[frail lily]

I would contact the author and let him know he should specify this only makes the game compatible and it's not remastered just yet. It might seem obvious to us but I assure you it is not for most people.

[ripe hazel]

Dsogaming comments are something else. Not only do they shit on whatever is presented in the article but they also endlessly seemed to roast the guy running the site last time I checked

[nocturne ibex]

I thinki found it but there was only the scaling option, right ? I didn't see the others options like in Portal RTX

[nocturne ibex]

Okay, i found the settings

But i am not sure this is normal :

It's lacking some lights, isn't it ?

[ripe hazel]

Looks like it's lacking all lights except the sky light maybe

[nocturne ibex]

In the prvious area where there is the elevator , the lights were okay

[naive edge]

Looks like you are missing the remix mod files or you disabled enhancements in the runtime settings

[nocturne ibex]

oh i am probably missing the mod files

Yeah it works now

Looks quite good. Performance crumbled unfortunately. I am sub 30 FPS, 50 % scaling, RTXDI disabled, Denoising to low and Restir GI Disabled. Min bounce = 0 and Max bounce = 1

Okay, i tested a bit deeper.
It's a bit weird.
Sometimes performance are quite good, like in the starting chamber or in some areas at the beginning. My GPU is like at 70 % usage locked at 30 FPS.
Then in some areas it crumbles, and i'm getting to 20 /25 FPS . Maybe in areas where there are glasses i imagine ? Or more lights?

Anyway, that's a good work, hat off.
If you find a way to fine tune performance in problematic areas and work on MTL a bit to get the most of the new lighting, it will be an incredible piece of work

[naive edge]

Yeah glass refraction is pretty costly and the game is very cpu bound in some areas. Letting the game devote the LOD helps but makes remixing a lot more tedious…

Best way might be to edit the actual map file .. remove props .. place a unique marker and attach models using the remix toolkit … so that the models are now handled by the game itself

[heady laurel]

wouldn't letting remix runtime handle the models be a more suited fit?

[ornate heath]

What about loading only low poly LOD models

And replacing them with remix

[naive edge]

That would help a little but it would still draw a shit ton of models on certain maps. Removing them all and re-adding them using remix might be the best solution.

But yeah, I’ll create an option to set everything to the lowest lod. Just don’t want that by default because of all the people playing it without an actual remaster

[rough ginkgo]

and so it begins

[pallid hatch]

I love how it’s just a random google blog too. It’s just an echo chamber for those people, always the same ones.

dsogaming who?

[naive edge]

https://wccftech.com/portal-2-rtx-remix-path-tracing-mod/

[pallid hatch]

Well that’s better ☺️

[naive edge]

https://www.technetbooks.com/2024/11/portal-2-rtx-remix-mod-delivers.html?m=1

[misty monolith]

it looks sick good job

[cunning shoal]

why is the water white?

[frail lily]

Is it water or moondust gel?

[cunning shoal]

water

i was also confused

makes sense now

[drifting temple]

[blissful fulcrum]

Material was never replaced

[heady laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/fist-mad-angry-anger-meme-gif-17499271

[drifting temple]

failure of embed

[heady laurel]

Bros intrusive thoughts won

[heady laurel]

Tenor is yet again banned here

or is discord acting up

This is the second time istg

[drifting temple]

https://tenor.com/view/fist-mad-angry-anger-meme-gif-17499271

[drifting temple]

issue of skill

[thin geode]

it's because you need to copy the gif link @heady laurel

not the page

[heady laurel]

it should work with one click though, im using the provided gif section

[thin geode]

discord is stupid then

they also broke our invite link again

[heady laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/office-gif-9384820

[buoyant venture]

Congrats

🎉

[buoyant venture]

I'd recommend using FSR ultra performance at 4K #1263976646441172993

[nocturne ibex]

Didn't know it worked with rrmix, gonna try, but I fear quality is gonna be too low to my taste at ultra perf

[fluid bison]

looks like cum

sorry

[buoyant venture]

https://tenor.com/view/nut-soap-gif-18803524

It's obviously shampoo 🙄

[cunning shoal]

me when your mom

[red panther]

https://www.dsogaming.com/mods/you-can-now-play-portal-2-with-rtx-remix-path-tracing/

[lunar marten]

dsogaming comments are so unhinged…. 💀

[red panther]

I’m people are gonna hate

That’s just how things are

[fluid bison]

i like tea

[fast sedge]

Good job guys

[fast sedge]

Oh shoot

Im late

[red panther]

It happens

[untold charm]

is this mod a work in progress considering the bad normal maps and some lights not being emmisive like GLaDOS's eye and the panels "eyes"?

lighting so far looks great btw

[blissful fulcrum]

Yes

Although it's main purpose isn't supposed to be a remaster or anything

[red panther]

it's just to get things remix compatible for path tracing and remixes genral functions

[blissful fulcrum]

It's just to get RTX working within Portal 2 properly

[untold charm]

you guys are not going to remake all the textures and stuff

[blissful fulcrum]

Some one is, I think there is a team but that's not what the GitHub project is focused on

[red panther]

The Portal 2 RTX project team will, but we just started

[untold charm]

take as much time as you need, i hope it will be great

[blissful fulcrum]

Since it's the community doing it it likely will be

[fluid bison]

im just bored

[lunar marten]

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-speedruner-gif-20263880

[red panther]

locked in

[buoyant venture]

I'm supposed to launch the Google Form Application today

[red panther]

w

[buoyant venture]

I kind of want to post it here, but I also feel like it's not appropriate since this is the thread for the compatibility mod

[ionic silo]

i find it very nice that the entire community has decided to unofficially make portal 2 rtx

like you guys are ACTUALLY going to remodel stuff?

[drifting temple]

No

Models are fine

Texture could get some love

[ionic silo]

so like actual remaking and not just making pbr maps for all the texture

cause just pbr-ifying it works but actual texture remastering would be really cool

[drifting temple]

We'll see how the team handles it

If they ai generate textures then it'll be the biggest letdown of the history

But if they make textures properly, it can be an amazing mod

[naive edge]

https://overclock3d.net/news/software/portal-2-looks-awesome-with-rtx/

[drifting temple]

Now I feel like getting some attention. I should drop an update for my mod and these websites will come flock to me in a second.

[buoyant venture]

There are a few low poly models that need a touchup, it's not much though
Valve did really good considering it was 13 years ago

[lyric scarab]

@naive edge hey, why not use the latest version of dlss ? there have been significant improvements since dlss 3.1, with preset e and co

[fluid bison]

finally, my logo in action

[wispy fiber]

How did I miss this wtf

Portal 2 just works with remix now???

[fluid bison]

yep, more than a week ago it did, and very recently it became public

[wispy fiber]

It’s been almost 2 months HOW DID I MISS THIS

[wispy fiber]

Oh wait did they edit in the link like a week or 2 ago

[naive edge]

That’s what comes with the latest remix version

[fluid bison]

public release happened 15th November

[wispy fiber]

Did people know this mod existed a month or 2 ago?

[fluid bison]

those in here - yes
people outside - maybe yes, maybe no

[wispy fiber]

How did I miss this

[buoyant venture]

I missed it at first as well, lol

[heady laurel]

Bro is in utter shock

it happened because it required a game-side modification

Hence why it's called a portal 2 remix compatibility mod

[wispy fiber]

i know part of it was cause portal 2 had no version of directx compatible with remix

did they somehow change the directx used in portal 2 or?

[heady laurel]

yeah but xoxor4d had to reverse engineer the game shaders and turn it into fixed function

[wispy fiber]

wow

@naive edge how long were u working on this?

[naive edge]

First commit is from 21.09.24

[zinc pollen]

hello

is there any real portal rtx projects based on this mod?

[fluid bison]

its from your group?

[buoyant venture]

Yeah

[fluid bison]

won't mind if i'll reimagine that image a little with my logo?

for interest sake

[buoyant venture]

Sure, your logo is way better to me 👍

[fluid bison]

here it is

[buoyant venture]

Dang, you work fast
Amazing

[fluid bison]

simple thing for me to do, tbh i actually start working 2 minutes before i asked about reimagining

but yeah, its fast to do

[buoyant venture]

I don't think I can edit the old thread picture so maybe I'll start a new one

[fluid bison]

added a little credit to myself

intentionally darkened the credit so it won't take a full attention to it, those who want to see, they will see

[buoyant venture]

Created the new thread with it

[fluid bison]

👍

[kind lance]

Like Xoxor mentioned it's only that the version of DLSS that ships with Remix is out of date. You can manually update the DLL just like any other game, and if you use 3.8.10 it'll automatically use preset E

[buoyant venture]

Does that mean we can ship a remastered Portal 2 RTX with a upgraded DLSS?

[kind lance]

Totally

I already have it swapped in my project files

[buoyant venture]

Noice

[frank basalt]

OMG!!!

[red panther]

Wild Username

[open rampart]

I was taking captures and this guy reminded me of something

[lyric scarab]

@naive edge Are you going to continue to develop the mode in the future?there are sometimes conflicts between the developer's da/intention and path tracing lighting, it looks like

one example I can cite is this portal platforme, which is invisible in the remix

[naive edge]

You are mixing things up here. That is stuff you do with an actual remix mod. People remixing the game will have to do that. I merly provide a mod that makes the game compatible with remix in the first place and I'll definitely continue to work on that + a few qol things.

I do ship a base remix mod besides the compatibility mod as some kind of base so that people know how to setup the portals and other mod specifics (that also includes a few lights and emissives .. but it's not aiming to remaster the game)

[safe elk]

No more development we pulling a concord

[lyric scarab]

You mean that apart from make portal 2 compatible whit remix,, you haven't touched the position of lighting and co ?

[safe elk]

Altho there is a team ik is working on a mod for the remix mod... might be worth working with them to keep it to the taste of the game for sure!

[naive edge]

I've only placed lights on like .. 3 levels ... for a total of .. 6 to 7 lights

[safe elk]

J am curious on something, before the most recent patch the moon was a weird pastey grey color, what was up with that

[naive edge]

hm?

[safe elk]

Like it was fixed as of recently but I was just curious on why in the first version, the moon looked like it was both rasterized but also a missing draw call

[buoyant venture]

Concord? Never existed

[safe elk]

Chinese propaganda

[buoyant venture]

I know of some paperweight Playstation discs with the name concord

[fluid bison]

just did overlay just to be

example in action

[buoyant venture]

Saving this

[fluid bison]

i'm doing 4K version of Overlay just in case

[fluid bison]

here is 4K version, as i said, just in case

[buoyant venture]

Nice
Alright if I share this with the team?

[fluid bison]

that's pretty much the intention to be used for the team

[buoyant venture]

Honestly, if you want, I can just invite you to the team server, lol

[fluid bison]

why not

[empty quest]

I had a playthrough of the game with @naive edge 's mod on a 3060ti getting 30-60ish fps at 1080p dlss performace. Even with mostly stock assets the game looks great and is very playable except for a couple of moments that got a bit dark or it was tricky to see which surfaces were portalable. The mod gave a really eerie vibe to a lot of the old Aperture Science/depths parts of the game in a 'liminal spaces' kind of way.

[thin geode]

@naive edge with your progress with Portal 2 and so many other games, i'd like to add an emoji that honors you lol

could be your profile pic or something like that

[analog copper]

i was never book smart im money smart

[open tulip]

Wow...

[safe elk]

Its gotta be one of thoes emojis fr fr on gang (or not 😅 )

[safe elk]

exactly

[rough ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1299503727299788891/1309357922010009661/2024-11-21_21-19-40.mp4?ex=67414a17&is=673ff897&hm=cd4355c8c95643ba3a9f380cfb50d58de01540f0aab19b56153a19cb207683c3&
stupidly hi-res PBR wheatley, now with fixed UVs

DLAA @ 900p, my 2080 is dying

also relit the top area of sp_a1_intro with a more diffused sun, i think it fits the mood of the game better than my last attempt
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1299503727299788891/1309359511437312160/2024-11-21_21-24-54.mp4?ex=67414b92&is=673ffa12&hm=5b76ce8a42e4939c899b9da59a3811ea2af0a4d58bb1636ec8eb38ef05898480&

without the legacy fog

[frail lily]

@naive edge is it possible to easily add translucency to them leaves?

[naive edge]

download models.usda from here
https://github.com/xoxor4d/p2-rtx/releases/tag/1.4

[frail lily]

What should I do next? Just open it in Remix, modify the material and save?

[naive edge]

read

[frail lily]

I can't read 😱

Oh, so it's already done in theory

got it, thanks

[frail lily]

It doesn't work for me (or at least not as it should), it seems to me SSS only works when I add a map for it. I think brightening the original texture, setting rounghness to .6-.7 and adding a simple SSS mask works well enough before a proper remaster, but for some reason even though I saved the textures in the exact same way, some retained the alpha and others didn't. I don't have time now but as soon as I can I'll try to do my part

[naive edge]

oh I thought you have the alpha bug with no alpha at all

[frosty cargo]

I'd love to help with making higher res textures. I just don't know how to make custom PBR -- does anyone have any advice on how to do that? Is there a recommended software for that? I'd prefer not to use AI

[safe elk]

@kind lance whatsat website called that your eccomended me again? the fake photoshop website?

[frosty cargo]

I have actual Photoshop if that makes a difference

[frail lily]

No the alpha works, but the plants are too dark right now @safe elk (it's photopea)

[thin geode]

quixel mixer, instamat

you can also use CC0 textures as a base and modify them with those tools

[frosty cargo]

For things like the portal panels I already have a custom texture with circles set up, I just gotta make those circles indented. Giving instamat a go sounds like a good idea though

[kind lance]

Photopea

[kind lance]

I feel like we should just steal @old abyss 's work for this

[kind lance]

You absolutely crushed it. I think you're more than capable of doing glados if you were up to it

[rough ginkgo]

what did he do for this level?

[rough ginkgo]

yep, im assigned to chapter 1 on the team so i'll get around to PBR'ing her eventually

though its going to be much more involved compared to wheatley

[buoyant venture]

If only he was on the team, lol

[old abyss]

What is it? Talking about the verge? The Ivys in hl2rtx specifically were work of Andrew Stole. I worked on grass, bushes, some trees and other stuff, but yeah, it is something I could work on. Though recently I've been quite busy with non-remix stuff 😅

[kind lance]

There's quite a lot of greenery in Portal 2 with the overgrowth, might be sweet it really needs to be geometry either way rather than alpha

I wonder how much modeled out vegetation is available online

[old abyss]

Indeed. Lots of potential for SSS as well

[drifting temple]

Ok but u missed the part where glados squeezes Wheatley

[rough ginkgo]

full vid is in #showcase

[drifting temple]

YouTube link

[rough ginkgo]

bruh it's one channel over and its the newest post

[drifting temple]

Am on phone

[rough ginkgo]

so am i

[drifting temple]

Not gonna switch apps

[rough ginkgo]

💀

[kind lance]

[rough ginkgo]

there is a bunch of decent free blender addons, we can even simulate how they lay on other objects by using the map capture as collision data

😈

oh yeah im definitely excited to start messing with that

nvidia please release the 5090, my 2080 needs to be put to rest for this project

[drifting temple]

Can anyone make a quick recording of the turret wife serenade

[old abyss]

TreeIt has support for that as well. There is even a tutorial specifically for Ivys showing how to make the branches attach to walls naturally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cos0hrBV974

damn I got the wrong link lol

or maybe I'm just dumb and can't remember. Anyway, that is speedtree, not treeit

[buoyant venture]

NVIDIA Gods, please send us new GPUs 🙏

I'll do a rain dance as well

[naive edge]

[frail lily]

I spoke to Jen Hsun earlier and he told me the whole server is going to get brand new GTX660

[thin geode]

want me to add this one?

[naive edge]

sure this one is perfect

[thin geode]

hmmm

[buoyant venture]

[buoyant venture]

Perfect card for UE5

[thin geode]

ya know what's even better?

[naive edge]

much appreciated 🙏

[thin geode]

GTX 285

[buoyant venture]

Now we're talking

[naive edge]

my first gpu was a gtx 295 .. dead on arrival 😂

[thin geode]

my first GPU was a radeon 9200 (or something like that)

[frail lily]

I am old, I remember a time when I would've killed for one of those, I used to gush over 3DFXs

[buoyant venture]

My first GPU was a RX 570 4GB

I didn't know about the 8GB at the time

[thin geode]

my time was after 3dfx GPUs, so i never really used those

i think the first GPU i really wanted was a GTX 980. before that i was pretty much fine with anything

but at the time seeing Battlefield 4 run so well was mindblowing lol. i was playing at like 25-40 FPS on a GTX 550 ti

[frail lily]

I think my first discrete GPU was actually fairly modern, the last of the Ati I believe

4850, is it possible?

used too