SCP: Containment Breach

[blissful pilot]

if we wanted it 256x256 for resolution per frame, then it would be a 9K texture

if we wanted to store the frames as individual frames in GFX/ it would still be at least ~560 individual frames as textures

I was generous with that estimate too

Its hard to say how big in size the image files would be if we had 560 of them, but seeing as the monitoroverlay.jpg is 34 kb, we can use that to estimate that 560 of them would be 19.04 mb in total size

[blissful pilot]

Thats for 256x256 resolution too

with video, if I do AVI, it would be more like 2 mb per video texture, and would be 18mb total

but the biggest difference is less of a headache to code and troubleshoot if something goes wrong or such

also, 512x512 resolution

[blissful pilot]

Its also just easier to handle

Having a bunch of these in GFX/ is better

plus in theory, I imagine its just like
When this happens - play video1
when video finishes - loop video2

that kinda thing

at least thats how I picture coding it in my head

the thing I'm most unsure of, is if BlitzMovie can transfer video playback to textures or objects

[formal sierra]

ye like if it can render in 3D

its only used at the start right?

i haven't seen any mods make use of it but maybe they have; just in creative ways 🤷‍♂️

[blissful pilot]

I'm not sure if this looks worse, but its .AVI and I managed to get it at 1.58 mb

pretty neat

[formal sierra]

holy potato

works tho its not like you're viewing these in full res anyway lol

[blissful pilot]

Turns out because there's only 74 frames in the entire loop, the video technically doesn't need to be higher than 5 fps

actually the actual frame rate of the monitor footage ingame, is about 3 fps

[formal sierra]

oh damn i thought it was higher than that tbh

[blissful pilot]

this one here is 10 fps, but some of those frames have to be just duplicate given what it was

Here's the original with the highest bitrate, if you want to compare

I'm not sure if the AVI loses quality

it has to, but like is it noticable?

[formal sierra]

nope, i mean maybe slightly noticeable, but if you're glancing at it in game it looks pretty much the same

[blissful pilot]

we'll see

the best part is, once the code is working, its as simple as replacing the files in GTX

wait..

can RTX remix replace video files though?

I actually never thought about it until now

shoot

it doesn't look like it

unless I guess blitz3d can put it as a texture

we'll have to see

[blissful pilot]

Ok so it looks like problem #1, this is more for Remix which means we can figure it out later, but the blitzmovie line of code for the startup videos for the game use CopyRect for projecting

this may be why they've always been black when using RTX

I'll cross that bridge when I come to it though, I just want to see if its possible in vanilla and then figure out workarounds

[blissful pilot]

bruh where is this .ogg😭

I'm looking for the name of the .ogg for this

its 8 seconds, I went through and sorted them by length. and STILL i can't find it

I just went into game to check, its definitely in the game, same game files, no Failed to load sound

where the hell could it be

[blissful pilot]

THAT WAS IT

[formal sierra]

SFX\Room\Intro

[blissful pilot]

bruhh

i swear I checked that one

[formal sierra]

lmao

[blissful pilot]

I must've thought it was the other "whatthe" sound effect

[formal sierra]

you should use foobar2000 for stuff like this

its great

[blissful pilot]

this was the one I think I was thinking about which seems so silly

at least now i know

I want to disable the event and that was how I was gonna find it

https://tenor.com/view/hl2-half-life-half-life2-hl-breen-gif-19548781

Its funny because its render target

and breen

breen.ogg

[formal sierra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/571955236697014283/1379675640843997194/half-life-black-mesa.gif

[blissful pilot]

that took longer than I wanted it to

but I found out how to disable triggers

It'll help in areas where, like the monitors, we want to record or capture something that is usually triggered before we can get in position

and with that

The After-Breach Loop before Cutscene is done

[formal sierra]

oh fuck yeah

by the way, do you think you could add a QOL setting for field of view?

i was watching the amazing documentary about franklin just standing there come on man

[blissful pilot]

I also think I found a way to have more quality coming out of AVI, it requires a little bit of extra work though, here it is here if you notice a difference:

[blissful pilot]

This one file, in AVI is 1.2 mb

awesome

[formal sierra]

yeah no i cant notice a difference at all lol

[blissful pilot]

Well it should be better overall

[blissful pilot]

QOL setting?

whats that

[formal sierra]

quality of life

[blissful pilot]

eh, I could I guess

[formal sierra]

i was just thinking it would be nice, since you can't overwrite the application file anymore since theres custom code

[blissful pilot]

I suppose its a remaster so I don't see why not

it would be one of the things I add near the end though

because I don't want this project to be abandoned and if for whatever reasons I or anyone else has to drop it, I want the main stuff done first

thats why lighting rooms and the game breaking issues like the monitors are my first priority

second is publicity, so I don't have a reason to drop it

if enough people know about it, it can only mean it'l continue to grow

[formal sierra]

heres a snippet for the camera code, whether/whenever you add it

[formal sierra]

i wish this game was still as popular as it was back in 2020 and before

[blissful pilot]

I found a way to make it worse 💀

[formal sierra]

not bad enough, still interpretable

is that a fucking windows media video

haven't heard that file format name in years

[blissful pilot]

yeah I was trying other codecs

AVI is good but Adobe's dogshit encoder doesn't have an option to change the aspect ratio or resolution

so I cant have it 1:1

so BlitzMovie can take WMV, Mpeg (dunno which version) and some codecs of AVI

TSS and Undertow used AVI, which I'd love to do if I can but I'd need to find a better way to encode it

[blissful pilot]

this is WMV which I think should be off the table

[formal sierra]

absolutely lol it sux

[blissful pilot]

this file is still 5x larger than the AVI one from earlier 😂 💀

[formal sierra]

thats what happens when you use a proprietary windows format i guess lol

[fading fractal]

wmv is the format, not the codec though

are you using mpeg-2?

kinda looks like it

[formal sierra]

doesn't mpeg-2 produce big ass file sizes (for comparatively worse everything, really)?

or is that some other one

[fading fractal]

i mean

you're trying to simulate old shitty video quality, right?

[blissful pilot]

yeah I know the AVI codecs I have don't work so I was trying WMV

[blissful pilot]

no

we're actually trying to

• A. get the highest quality for smallest file size
• B. do it in a format that BlitzMovie is compatible with (AVI, WMV, or Mpeg)
• C. do it in a 512x512 resolution at 10 FPS

mainly

so we're aiming for 1-2mb per video max

thats our goal anyhow if we can

the BlitzMovie demo has one thats 3mb

[fading fractal]

ahhhh

[blissful pilot]

but it crashes sometimes for no reason, so best not to test that limit

[fading fractal]

do you know what codecs it supports in addition to the formats?

[blissful pilot]

Nope 🙃

I wish I did, would make it a lot easier

[formal sierra]

i mean probably ones that are old af but that doesn't narrow it down very much lol

[blissful pilot]

Although I noticed that the codec I had for AVI is actually... H264 - MPeg-4??

weird..

but regardless, that one doesn't want to load in BlitzMovie

[fading fractal]

yeah

the newest codec that'll work is probably mpeg-2

and there are ways to improve the quality of that without increasing file size

[blissful pilot]

Its the only one I got in Adobe software too

[fading fractal]

if you can send me the video to encode i'll try some for you

[blissful pilot]

Sure

mp4 good?

[fading fractal]

yeah

[formal sierra]

handbrake my beloved

[fading fractal]

i use staxrip

[blissful pilot]

These three are the ones I'm trying to do now

[fading fractal]

staxrip supremacy

[blissful pilot]

they are all MP4 and were encoded with the max bitrate I could

should already be 10 fps and 512x512 too

[fading fractal]

can you send me the version from before you made it 10 fps and 512?

i should be able to get it even higher quality

[blissful pilot]

uh I can try to

[fading fractal]

or did you like actually render these or something like this?

i didn't read chat (obv)

[blissful pilot]

the sequence I had in premiere pro was made for 512x512 but I might be able to do something

the highest resolution was 1530x994

so I could possibly do 994x994

[fading fractal]

well

[fading fractal]

the thing is that i can resize it with a superior scaling filter than what premiere offers

[blissful pilot]

These are 994x994, 23 FPS, max bitrate, 2 Passes, and I tried to keep it with the original recordings

maybe compare them just to make sure, I'm not sure if they look better in quality

but yeah give it a shot if youd like

They look pretty good in quality actually

should be anyhow

[fading fractal]

this should work, and it looks decent

unfortunately the frame pacing is really bad because 24 FPS to 10 is... horrible lol

[formal sierra]

you're a wizard

wait no

witch

but that sounds rude so you're a wizard instead

[fading fractal]

this one's a little bit better

[fading fractal]

lmao. well ty

[fading fractal]

has some ghosting though. but it's not as jittery

in case those are preferred

here's the staxrip template. made with 2.46.5 in mind

[formal sierra]

i don't care handbrake is better 👿

[fading fractal]

uh huuuh

[formal sierra]

handbrake has the most hideous logo and staxrip could never top that

[fading fractal]

lol

[blissful pilot]

alright Im back

[blissful pilot]

There rate of the frames has always been like 2.5-3 frames per second

theres only 74 frames in the entire thing

[fading fractal]

no i just mean the conversion isn't properly divisble so it leads to frame pacing errors

[blissful pilot]

hm

[fading fractal]

i shared 2 versions. the first set doesn't try to fix it and it's jittery. the second set fixes it but has some blurry frames as a result

[blissful pilot]

I have something else for ya

These three AVI files work with BlitzMovie, whatever their codecs are

TSS and Undertow should be the same

clock is RV24 whatever that is

for some reason Mpeg2 doesn't work either

im gonna try to find an official list of what can and cannot be used

[fading fractal]

ahh

interesting

Default (H.263)

i very often forget that exists

[blissful pilot]

I only tried the first one you sent tho

unless they're all the same

[fading fractal]

nah the rest won't work

i'll look into this

[blissful pilot]

weird right?

[fading fractal]

are these from the game?

[blissful pilot]

Undertow and TSS are

the clock is from a demo of BlitzMovie

BlitzMovie is a library used in the game tho

[fading fractal]

soo where did the 512x512 limitation come in? these are well above that

[blissful pilot]

I'm hoping to use it to replace the render target problem

[blissful pilot]

we're going to be streaming the video as a texture, and switching between videos as events take place ingame

512px isn't a requirement, but with that^ in mind, the original texture resolution for the Render Target they had was 512x512, and I thought it would be best to keep it the same to maximize performance and minimize stress on this old engine

thats the only reason why

Undertow and TSS (the videos) are played before anything actually loads in, so theoretically they should be able to do whatever they wanted for quality and be fine

because the video is unloaded before anything else

[fading fractal]

try this

[formal sierra]

very good potato quality

[blissful pilot]

it works!

[formal sierra]

bravo

[formal sierra]

TY KIM

[fading fractal]

here's the jittery one if ya want

[blissful pilot]

what did ya end up using to encode it?

[fading fractal]

staxrip still, but it's just a frontend for ffmpeg and avisynth

i'll share the updated template for it

[formal sierra]

no why do you lie its actually handbrake i swear

[fading fractal]

-c:v libxvid -b:v 3000k -pass 2

unfortunately it doesn't want to use the bitrate i'm forcing. i don't know why

but the quality is good enough anyway

[blissful pilot]

it happens to the best of encoders

don't even get me started on Pre-multiplication settings

I swear to god, all of the settings for that in adobe are the exact same, just named differently, because adobe devs didn't know what the hell they were doing

[formal sierra]

i hate adobe man

[blissful pilot]

Nintendo is the most disappointing to me these days

https://tenor.com/view/nintendo-switch-nintendo-switch-2-nintendo-switch-2-prices-money-waste-gif-13637535349782386377

[formal sierra]

nowadays its like: split your $1200 purchase of a gaming console into 360 different payments spanning a course of 30 years

[blissful pilot]

well I just found out why documentation for Blitz Movie is hard to find

dated 2004-2005

christ

found documentation though

kinda

[formal sierra]

is there any on archive.org?

probably not right

[blissful pilot]

nope

[formal sierra]

damn lol

[blissful pilot]

was probably the first place I checked

[blissful pilot]

Also I found a site online that is able to encode to AVI Xvid, and it does a pretty good job for bitrate and file size

https://www.video2edit.com/convert-to-video

I tried staxrip, and for whatever reason it wouldn't do anything without crashing lol

so this alternative is aight

it also works with BlitzMovie too

[fading fractal]

if you want i could help troubleshoot it. it might be because of the custom profile i had to make for it in my local setup

[blissful pilot]

nah I tried with or without

like it would crash when I went to file open input source :/

[blissful pilot]

and its all good, I can iron out the file formats and where the best place to get them afterwards, for now I really wanna figure out how to get it into game first, that's the most enigmatic to me

[fading fractal]

for max quality i wouldn't mind just encoding whatever videos you need, if that site's output looks worse

[blissful pilot]

it looks aight, actually surprising

Like just exporting as MP4 so you can view it on discord without downloading it, this is quality i was able to get 2.1 mb file size

I also played around with the lowest bitrate setting, I know this looks like crap. but keep in mind this is the minimum and its only 300 kb in byte size

incredible considering

[fading fractal]

that looks a lot worse imo. a lot more blocking

[fading fractal]

wait till ya see my re-encode of the entire iron man movie in 50mb lol

[blissful pilot]

its the size though, keep in mind as well (I know you don't read a lot of what's going on here so I'll explain a bit)

• we're using a lot of really old tools and things for the game, some as old as 2004
• The game needs every optimization it can get
• The monitor is only about this small when viewed ingame:

And lastly, whatever we use will be overlayed with this, so this one here:

is how it'll look once its all complete. thats why bitrate artifacts don't matter as much, but a mb or two more in file size can depending. but thats something we'll learn more about once its in game

[fading fractal]

but like uh for comparison, the encode i sent you yesterday was ~3.2 MB and looked significantly better than the 2 MB encode

i do understand the importance of optimization, but i can't imagine 1 MB is gonna make a difference

[fading fractal]

that overlay is applied on top of the encoded video in the game?

[blissful pilot]

true

[blissful pilot]

yep

[blissful pilot]

and thats also why I said

[blissful pilot]

this^

because I'm totally fine with using a higher file size if it looks better, but I wanna make sure it runs and works well in the game first, if I cannot even get it into the game because its crashing from a higher file size, id never know without trying the minimum to start

I have the impression that the file size won't matter as much, however

check this out

This is what I played around with last night

and what I was gonna show the chat today

its a demo I did up with some very simple code, it just plays the video, projects it to a texture (without using copyrect :D) and textures the cube, and the cube spins, and you can move. pressing 2 acts as a trigger for the event that would (ingame) start the event and change the video, and once that video is done it switches to the second loop

while its neat I got it to work, you'll notice the flickering

I believe this is because I don't understand how to use double buffering properly

[fading fractal]

i'm really curious about something

[blissful pilot]

but if thats not the case, who knows. this is with the smallest file size

[fading fractal]

instead of replacing the video in the game directly, would it be possible to mark it as a particle in Remix and replace the texture where the video plays with a flipbook containing each frame of the video?

[blissful pilot]

Yes, infact we were going to do that initially

Thats actually how some other monitors ingame work

the issue is that one of these videos is 74 individual frames, so in a single texture it would be way too large, if each frame is 256x256 then that would be a 9K texture at least, and if its individual files, that would be 560 image files to flip through

its possible, especially if done in remix instead, but there's other issues with that, when RTX is off the monitors won't show anything, and the biggest problem I see is it just seems like a big amount of work whenever something needs to be updated

because say we have to change one of the loops for some reason, like if something is added

Theres also filesize to consider, although as I found out the difference in size is minimal,

[fading fractal]

it would actually be really easy to make a script to make the texture for it. it'd be as simple as just running a python script

but the advantage of this being that you don't have to try to encode a video for the engine itself, which may break it

[blissful pilot]

may break the engine?

[fading fractal]

yeah. file size concerns, resolution, etc.

the stuff you mentioned above

[blissful pilot]

I mean if it is, I'd have no idea where to start, plus i've never used python

[fading fractal]

when RTX is off the monitors won't show anything
are you trying to retain compatibility with that? if so i'm curious why. if someone didn't want the Remix mod, why not just uninstall it?

[fading fractal]

ah no i'd make it for you. it'd be really easy

and i'd make it an exe so it's easy for you to use

[blissful pilot]

uh.. yes and no. so ultimately if someone is playing without RTX is gonna be because it doesn't run well for them, but if that's the case they should play a version of the game that runs the same but had like.. updated skeletal models and everything else we've done for a remaster that isn't RTX related, and If I put it on steam, I actually want to have this as a launch option not to alienate those people. however, the bigger reason is consistency; I like the idea of people being able to switch between RTX on and off and see the difference, and seeing the monitor footage with how it looked in the base game vs how it looks with a ray-traced recreation, even if its video form.

its not important but thats the only reason I have to why

I'm trying to still follow a lot of things that make RTX remasters impressive, I kinda hate the ones that when you turn RTX off to see what it looked like before, it looks like the game is barely there

[blissful pilot]

also neat, would there be anything you need from me?

I have the source code for the game and can modify it if it helps

if you want I can start by just having a set texture set to the monitors for each switch of event if thats all you need

[blissful pilot]

I was going to expand on this too, I taught myself to program just for this project, I've always been in tech and the tech industry, my dad is a programmer and has done a lot of things for many companies over the years, but for me. before this year.. I was 100% an artist or creator, and coding is very much new to me

its not a bad thing, I love to learn. but obviously its something to consider

[fading fractal]

don't think so. but with this the videos could be a higher framerate if you want. just tell me what you'd like the video quality to be and i'll try to do that

[blissful pilot]

I just spent a week and a half trying to recompile the engine itself just to find it doesn't work the way I wanted it to because I don't fully understand how the DLL works

[fading fractal]

that's awesome though. and amazing progress!

[blissful pilot]

This is exactly how it looks ingame

[blissful pilot]

I've been wanting to remaster this game since 2017, only now have I made progress of any kind

RTX is the drive for that, the reason for a remaster to exist

[fading fractal]

so what we could do is actually remove the static camera overlay there and animate it on each frame instead. it'd look more realistic for a security camera. that'd be kinda complex though. dunno if i could create a convincing effect

[blissful pilot]

it may look low framerate or crappy, but thats kinda the appeal of it I guess

[blissful pilot]

the overlay is just a texture blend

[fading fractal]

yeah i agree. security cams suck IRL and should suck here too 😛

[blissful pilot]

theres also a functional reason for it ingame

I've actually gone and removed the line of code for it before:

[fading fractal]

hmmmm

i've got another idea

is culling disabled in this game?

you could actually maybe create a viewport in the engine and map it to that screen. that way it'd be path traced

[blissful pilot]

This room has a bunch of security monitors in the game, shows many other rooms ingame, the thing is these are displayed using single textures, single images, these rooms normally have quite a bit of motion in them, but because they couldn't animate all of them the lower quality, lower resolution, choppiness that exists on all monitors makes it less noticeable

So if we were to make it higher framerate, higher resolution, then these would look out of place. and if we made those higher resolution, they would look like still images; and still be outta place because of that

Thats the biggest reason to keep them the same quality

[blissful pilot]

huh?

culling is not disabled

culling is actually pretty aggressive, at least I think

[fading fractal]

okay sooo give me a sec

[blissful pilot]

no rush

I'm just playing around with stuff fn

[fading fractal]

agh i can't find the video

i meant render target, not viewport

if there's a valid render target, you can tell remix to path trace it. so instead of the game looking rasterized in the videos, it'd be path traced, just like the rest of the game with Remix

and in the game with RTX off, it'd look like the normal game

[blissful pilot]

I know, it would be ideal

the problem.. is render target

theres not a lot of info about it in general and certainly not a lot for blitz3d

[fading fractal]

256 version | 512 version

[blissful pilot]

i don't even know if its possible in the engine without specific libs

[fading fractal]

yeah i was wondering about that

shame though as it'd be nearly perfect

[blissful pilot]

I mean... we could do that for each animation

not a crazy idea

although how hard were those to make?

[fading fractal]

it's very very easy

[blissful pilot]

what did ya use?

[fading fractal]

just give the script the video, specify the resolution you want, and then it saves it

[fading fractal]

a script i made

[blissful pilot]

OH thats what you meant lol

[fading fractal]

i'll pack it into an exe for you to run

[blissful pilot]

I just don't know how to code the position for where the texture should be at for animating and.. timing I guess

that would be a big hurdle

[fading fractal]

you will need to ingest this in the toolkit, so it'll compress it with DDS. won't look amazing but it'll look good enough for the video. and probably still better than what that website gave you

[fading fractal]

Remix supports using this

[blissful pilot]

oh wait

https://tenor.com/view/omg-waitaminute-gif-26448308

[fading fractal]

so in the original game, it's still a video file

in Remix, it's replaced with this

[blissful pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-woah-mind-blown-gif-20874328

I'm actually kinda blown away

ok maybe this is an ok way to go

[fading fractal]

lmao

okay well i hope it works

[blissful pilot]

its worth trying

[fading fractal]

you'll need to mark the screen as a particle texture iirc

then replace this with the flipbook

[blissful pilot]

is there a way to disable things when remix is turned on?

like.. i know thats vague

how do i say it

[fading fractal]

well, that's kinda the magic of this solution. you don't replace anything in the original game. soooo whatever video it'd normally be playing would still play with RTX disabled

[blissful pilot]

if theres a function in the game, such as this copyrect thingy. is there a way I can say to disable it when RTX is turned on?

[fading fractal]

hm

[blissful pilot]

because then, I'd not have to even add the video to the game, and just have a function to switch it

[fading fractal]

so you can maybe use the remix API for that, though it's normally used for telling Remix what to do, not the other way around

[blissful pilot]

probably not but

[fading fractal]

but i know it's doable

lemme get an example

[blissful pilot]

it would definitely be the most efficient and best way to go about this

at least on paper

if theres a way to hide hashes, then maybe

I could just parent the copyrect screen to something that isn't shown when Remix is on

at least thats the idea I have in my head

theres probably lots of ways to go about it honestly

[fading fractal]

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/blob/main/documentation/RemixSDK.md

The Remix SDK exposes an API that gives applications access to the renderer inside the Remix Runtime.

but i'm not sure if it'll allow you to control the game from remix. i imagine it would, and i swear i saw a demo of this somewhere. but i can't find it

[formal sierra]

are you still using the old version of the engine?

i think it was like 1.0.6 or something you were using previously for FastExt right

[blissful pilot]

1.106 of blitz3d can support FastExt yea

but it cannot support a lot of other things that were added to the engine

such as Fmod, a new sound system, and tons more

so much so Its likely not worth it

as I said, I spent a week and a half doing what you're proabably thinking now

it doesn't work

[fading fractal]

@plucky cobalt you worked with the Remix SDK API before. would it be possible to read the current state of an object in Remix, then use it to control the game?

(this is a horribly worded question but i fixed it 5 times. it was worse before)

[blissful pilot]

1.0.6 of SCP:CB has the render target 860 door

thats probably what you're thinkling of

[formal sierra]

ohhhh

[blissful pilot]

I can relate to that

words is not my strongsuit today lol

[formal sierra]

also no im just wondering since i want to try something but needed to know if you were still on the old one

[fading fractal]

it's been a big problem for me the last week or so

[blissful pilot]

nope, we're on v1.108 Mavless

if you install v1.108 I can provide the Mavless Bin if you need

[formal sierra]

dw i already have it

[blissful pilot]

besides that, we're modifying the .exe obviously, but I think its better that way

its the most stable and best for preformance

so i'm probably not going to modify blitz3d anytime soon

[formal sierra]

too much trouble lol

[blissful pilot]

exactly

[fading fractal]

you okay with command line?

[blissful pilot]

CMD?

[fading fractal]

yes

[formal sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-gif-27466237

no not text anything but text

[blissful pilot]

eh, haven't really used it all that much

[fading fractal]

otherwise i have to make a gui. i don't like making guis lol

[blissful pilot]

I'm not 100% sure what a GUI is, I think I have an idea but

[formal sierra]

like

buttons

and stuff

[blissful pilot]

oh wait

you mean for the script?

[fading fractal]

yes

[blissful pilot]

I don't mind CMD as long as the instructions for how to do one to another is pretty easy and easy to manipulater

the only thing I think id change is how many frames depending on the animation

however I also don't know how the script works

does it repeat frames?

[blissful pilot]

like theres only 74 in this

[fading fractal]

.\video-to-flipbook.exe .\ABLoop1.mp4 .\out2.png -s 512 512 -f 10 -t .\temp\

this is the command

.\ABLoop1.mp4 is the input video
.\out2.png is the output png
-s 512 512 is the dimension of each frame
-f 10 is the framerate
-t .\temp\ is the temp directory for processing

[blissful pilot]

so does it output based off framerate and length?

[formal sierra]

cool

[blissful pilot]

because then.. I think it would have duplicate frames

[fading fractal]

it doesn't have duplicate frames unless the input video did

in other words, you're fine to just use this with the command i gave, changing only the input video and output png

[blissful pilot]

the actual framerate of it is like 2.3 fps from what I remember, so there is to some extent

[fading fractal]

remix would loop it automatically

[blissful pilot]

that being said

maybe not a bad thing

because its all about playback

and if remix can read it or play it better like then it doesn't matter really

[fading fractal]

okay

is that easier for you to use?

[blissful pilot]

I don't mind CMD lol

ultimately the biggest thing I worry about is figuring out how to get it in game or into remix

no idea where to start with either

same with BlitzMovie

[formal sierra]

whats the function for the cameras called again?

isn't it like UpdateSecurityCams

[blissful pilot]

theres a couple, UpdateSecurityCams() I think is the main one

[fading fractal]

well, for remix you just mark the texture where the video normally is, and replace the texture in the toolkit with a flipbook

[formal sierra]

alr lemme look at it after notepad++ is finished with being a buggy mess 😭

[plucky cobalt]

if the object is a stable mesh hash, sort of yes? You'd still need to build a bunch of remixapi stuff on the game-side to associate remix meshes with game entities

i havent done anything specifically like that myself though, maybe xoxor4d has?

[fading fractal]

ah

well @blissful pilot imo this is probably worth dropping

the complexity isn't worth it

there will be hits on VT for that exe because it's packed using pyinstaller

so there's the script if you wanna use it instead

you need to make a "temp" folder wherever you run this
ah wait nvm it doesn't need it anymore

[formal sierra]

i love using .bat and .py scripts (together) lol

[blissful pilot]

like the Remix API?

[fading fractal]

the flipbook idea

[blissful pilot]

ah

it might come in handy though, who knows

[fading fractal]

you'd still end up replacing the video in the engine, right? so it's kinda pointless

[blissful pilot]

maybe I can use it for texture animation if BlitzMovie doesn't work

[blissful pilot]

Yes. assuming I can

my though process is that, if a video is projected to a texture, Remix should be able to replace that texture right?

[fading fractal]

if you can't, this would be a good fallback at least

as for texture animation, yeah that's what the flipbooks were meant for originally

[blissful pilot]

there might be a way to test that rn with my demo actually

If i can figure out how to export it as a .exe

[formal sierra]

i forgot about how fucking gigantic Main.bb is lol

12086 lines

[blissful pilot]

Finally got it to work

If any of you guys wanted to try out the .exe for the demo its here

This is essentially all it is

now it just works outside of Blitz3D debug mode

[fading fractal]

very nice work

[formal sierra]

@blissful pilot sorry for ping but is there any way to batch open a bunch of .bb files in Blitz3D?

or do you have to open them all one-by-one

nvm im just gonna use Notepad++ since its better anyway

[blissful pilot]

Thats the best way, depending on what you mean by batch

VS Code is also really handy

you can open a folder with .bb files and view each one, or search amongst them all

but Notepad++ will be much more handy for more complicated things

[formal sierra]

yeah i love using VS code so much but Notepad++ is a bit more lightweight imo

[blissful pilot]

yep

VS code also has the option for plugins

such as AI LLM

[formal sierra]

yeah i have a crap ton lol

[blissful pilot]

i haven't used them yet, but I really want to

it might help

[formal sierra]

as far as i know, i haven't really seen any BlitzBasic/Blitz3D-specific addons, but theres a lot of useful utilities, like a TODO tree, better formatting, etc

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=Gruntfuggly.todo-tree

[fading fractal]

https://github.com/RooCodeInc/Roo-Code

i was recommended this one

[formal sierra]

i've never liked using LLMs for helping me code personally

looks cool tho

[fading fractal]

https://windsurf.com/download
windsurf is also good

[fading fractal]

well, that frame script "i" made was done with Claude in about 5 minutes

including the GUI

you just need to know the terminology and be explicit in what you need

[formal sierra]

yeah, i like using LLMs for python scripts like those (i used AI for a shit ton of Blender scripts), but if its a language i know deeply i'd just prefer to make it myself honestly

like for a game or something i mean, little utilities i like being lazy with since you get the same end result either way

[fading fractal]

that makes sense

i usually do a mix

like i'll make the outline, have it fill in most of the boring shit, then finish it myself

[formal sierra]

same

i think AI & LLMs can be a really useful tool, just people instead make it their single way to create things if that makes sense :(

[oak dirge]

Still have to look at coding llms

It just feels weird because I like coding because I have to figure it out and pull everything together

But alas you can't overcome lack of documentation

[blissful pilot]

Fixed the demo, a lot less flickering, ESC closes the program instead of just crashing it, and theres a few more things

[formal sierra]

guys is this scp cb 1.3.12

jokes aside, very cool :D

[blissful pilot]

I wish I spent less time on it, because its only a demo; but it provides me with some understanding of Blitz3D

because there was absolutely no documentation

just the .decl file

here's the same video but with ✨ sound ✨

Just gets the idea across a little better

[formal sierra]

wow cb v1.3.12 looks amazing

[blissful pilot]

After the launch of the Switch 2 im tempted to call it "SCP CB 2"

its about as impressive

[formal sierra]

i think this is much more impressive than the Switch 2 lmao

shit is majorly the same as the first Switch

[blissful pilot]

worse

I had a conversation yesterday about it, about how theres these burger powerups in the only console exclusive: Mario Kart World where when your character eats the powerup, their mouth doesn't open or change at all, and the guy I was talking to was like "well its not like their mouths opened in previous mario kart games!"

https://tenor.com/view/roy-koopa-mariokart-win-winning-happy-gif-11613473225370861393

im not joking, its worse than anything before it

[formal sierra]

nintendo is so lazy nowadays since they know theres money to be had whether they put in effort or not

everyone should just go back to the Vita

[blissful pilot]

The biggest thing is, Nintendo plays god and acts like they can get away with just about anything; because they can. their fans view the company as not being able to do any wrong-doing

simply because, they grew up with mario

its incredibly sad

40 years ago Nintendo saved the gaming industry,
now its time for the fans to save themselves

[formal sierra]

i love too how Palworld is getting sued for literally just making more money than Nintendo lol

they didn't care as much at first but now that its popular?

[blissful pilot]

Palworld isn't even the worst thing they've done for legal suing

I was really excited for a fan project; Portal 64

guess how that got taken down

or the 20 years of nintendo content

[formal sierra]

hmm i wonder

[blissful pilot]

or the fact that you couldn't make youtube videos about nintendo before 2014

I got a laundry list of things they did like that

[formal sierra]

or Yuzu or Ryujinx

[blissful pilot]

its why I don't support or endorce the company at all

[formal sierra]

no emulation allowed ⏰ 🦾

[blissful pilot]

YUP miss Yuzu

[formal sierra]

i know it was so great

[blissful pilot]

emulation isn't even illegal, so why the fuck were they legally within their rights to take that shit down

the rom sites, sure. but emulation platforms??

Yeah honestly Nintendo's customer is in another castle for me. they can go royally screw themselves lmao

probably never buying a nintendo product again, and I'm happy with that

I'm also really glad I sold my switch when I did when they announced the switch 2, then bought a steam deck oled

[formal sierra]

my original Switch has been chilling in a cabinet for like 3 years lol

i really should've sold it but oh well

maybe one day my firmware will be moddable

[blissful pilot]

or bricked

[formal sierra]

[blissful pilot]

given the path they're going towards

[formal sierra]

aren't they disabling your Switch 2 if you try modding it and they catch you lol

[blissful pilot]

it was actually truly funny because my fiancé and I only bought one to play wonder, and we were disappointed with the online membership crap which was free on prior systems, so I brought up the idea of selling it to buy another steam deck (I already had the LCD) and her response was "but can you still play wonder on a steam deck?" and my response was "Hun, I was playing Wonder on the steam deck before it was launched, it was leaked online" and she was like "GET THAT POS SWITCH OUTTA HERE!!"

and that was the last time I owned a nintendo anything

[blissful pilot]

something like that

I read the EULA and uh..

its pretty freaky

by signing the agreement you're wavering your rights to a class action legal action against nintendo

[formal sierra]

in a couple years they're gonna have a user agreement like Scientology's contract where you sell your soul to them for a billion years lol

also i think a lot of big companies have that as well

[blissful pilot]

not like they put there...

[formal sierra]

~~steam ~~ valve used to have it

[formal sierra]

wdym lol

[blissful pilot]

theres stuff about steam all the time wdym

[formal sierra]

it was removed

[blissful pilot]

i swear theres like a new legal lawsuit attempt or legal shenanigans with steam and their platform from some angry customer every week

anyhow, still scary

[formal sierra]

steam refund didn't work!!11111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[blissful pilot]

even if every corporation did it, its not a good thing

[formal sierra]

yeah, i think Nintendo just gets a lot more flack for it

and rightfully so

i just wish people were more caring for other companies that do the same exact thing

[blissful pilot]

Nintendo hates its fans

thats the worst part

[formal sierra]

they don't hate money though

https://tenor.com/view/mnewbis-gif-234115558681803799

Mr. Krabs is the same color as the Nintendo accent color

coincidence?

[blissful pilot]

also his name, M.K.

its like mario kart

idk 😂

[formal sierra]

M.K.

is like martin luther king

fuck i can't spell

[blissful pilot]

Actually the worst part is that despite all the backlash and reasons not to, people still bought it

[formal sierra]

for $500 FUCKING DOLLARS

you can pretty much get a steam deck for that price

literally a handheld PC and you choose a Nintendo product instead

[blissful pilot]

and even worse, I though Nintendo was going to activate their trap card and bring back the retro library and add GameCube games which fans have been wanting forever, and then make it Switch 2 exclusive; I thought THAT was gonna be the reason people spend $500 and sell their dignity to get a switch 2

but nope. people did it for one of three reasons I've heard

• they've "GOTS TO HAVE IT"
• Im excited for mario kart world (The only console exclusive at launch)
• it has 2 in the name, its obviously better than the switch or steam deck "what are you stupid?" 😡

those are legitimate things I've heard from customers during retail and my coworkers who preordered it or are nintendo fans btw

im not making that shit up

i wish I was...

[formal sierra]

damn and it only has 1 exclusive

wtf is this

[blissful pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/trash-spongebob-gif-18104249

[formal sierra]

also i never even used my Switch all that much since i just wanted to play multiplayer with the homies and you have to pay a fucking subscription 😭

like why is everything going subscription

just let me own my shit man

[blissful pilot]

my brother in law and I bought our switches together

once we found that shit out... man

[formal sierra]

well i guess you don't own the servers but the point still stands

[blissful pilot]

im not sure why he still has his

but I got mine sold asap

[formal sierra]

how much were you able to sell it for?

[formal sierra]

also yeah they hide it; i thought you could use at least SOME multiplayer services

[blissful pilot]

$10 less than what I bought it for

I don't have an exact price, but thats what I remember

I got a really good selling price, especially because the switch 2 was announced

[formal sierra]

i think the connection pins for one of the sides of the console is broken on mine lol

iFixit my beloved

[blissful pilot]

iFIxit is awesome

[formal sierra]

once im finished with that i can probably sell it at a good price like yours

[blissful pilot]

an example of a good company

[formal sierra]

fr

have you ever tried out the PS vita?

i bought a really cheap one (that was broken af) back in like 2018 and used iFixit to order all the parts then repair it lol

[blissful pilot]

I use to own one when I was young

nowadays, I like the steamdeck

like REALLY like the steam deck,

linux, OLED, good cooling, better battery life, its powerful, proton, steam, it comes from my favorite company,

the idea of having DS, Wii games, Switch games, Steam games, old PC games, basically any game I've ever played or wanted to play right there on my steam deck

its a childhood dream come true for me

I don't understand how people don't share the same enthusiasm with it

at most I hear "well the ROG ALLY- or Legion GO-"

those didn't exist before the steam deck

Those only exist BECAUSE of the steamdeck

[fading fractal]

i'd love the SD if only it were a bit more powerful. because it really is a problem a lot of the time for me

but it is an amazing handheld and does a lot

i'm probably gonna sell mine soon

[blissful pilot]

I think is also an issue with handhelds in general, but yeah I can't disagree with it

I'd love if it had Nvidia stuff

the love for my PC rig will never fade away

[fading fractal]

well like compared to other handhelds, it's very weak

[blissful pilot]

which ones?

[fading fractal]

i just need it to be a little more and it'd be good enough for me to use for just about any game tbh

the ones you mentioned. ROG, legion

there are some other ones too

most outperform the SD

[blissful pilot]

well, ROG And Legion came out a year after the Steam Deck and goes back to this for me

but its true I suppose

thats kinda the worst part of any pioneer

they usually aren't the best of what they start

technically steam deck isn't the first, but PC handhelds weren't cool or even well known before

[fading fractal]

yeah, and i mean i agree with that. but it doesn't change that it is kinda weak overall

[blissful pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/wut-shrug-gif-21587752

[fading fractal]

lol

[blissful pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/steam-deck-10-fps-looks-gif-5209876123932797581

this is funny lol

[fading fractal]

nahhh i can't do that

[blissful pilot]

what games do you play on it too?

[fading fractal]

i spend all of the time i was supposed to play tweaking the game instead

[blissful pilot]

I mean I haven't had any preformance issues with any game I play, but maybe thats because I don't play heavy games

I play a lot of older titles I suppose

[fading fractal]

it's kinda sat unused the whole last year which is sad. but i was mostly playing older games so i wouldn't run into issues

i think the most modern game i played on it was DIRT 5, and The Finals. the finals was unplayable, dirt 5 was difficult to get running well but i did manage it eventually

gta 4 was probably the nicest experience on it

[blissful pilot]

for the longest time Dead by Daylight and RDR1 were the two games I could not run on it

until RDR1 came to steam and PC, and Dead By Daylight got Steam deck support

since then, SCP:CB RTX has been the only game I'd call "unplayable" on it

and thats probably my fault lmao I MADE IT

totes joking

[fading fractal]

there are def ways to get Remix in a playable state on SD

just... not too pretty 😛

[blissful pilot]

I know, but its also the uh.. game

which is uh

https://tenor.com/view/slander-meme-memes-funny-whiteboard-gif-4772672019041532028

[fading fractal]

yeahhh

but dxwrapper!

[blissful pilot]

Dxwrapper has honestly blown my mind

i wish I knew about it forever ago

it makes this game turn into a science fair project to an actual game somewhat

and of course, for Remix its necessary

[fading fractal]

yeah

elisha did some magic

esp with the process for dd7to9 in the last year or so

[blissful pilot]

someone asked me why I prefer dxwrapper over dgvoodoo

my answer was pretty simple, I hear more about elisha making it better and better, or always trying to do so; and I've actually talked to the guy who made it, while with dgvoodoo 😬

dxwrapper is awesome because elishacloud is awesome

change my mind

[fading fractal]

lol can't argue there

[formal sierra]

shit is heavenly

and it even supports BlitzBasic lol

[blissful pilot]

hm?

also on a side not

note

I hate MAV so much

and not for the reason you think

[formal sierra]

you're getting MAVs?

i don't think i've gotten more than a handful on CB v1.3.11

[blissful pilot]

not usually, but theres the 4GB patch, and Dxwrapper

without either, if I run the program in debug mode... Mavs can happen

[formal sierra]

oh yeah debug mode is a mess lol

found that out just a bit ago

[blissful pilot]

and sometimes, when they happen to a line of code I don't recgonize, I can't tell if its my fault or just the application deciding to fuck off

[formal sierra]

just the terrible stability of the engine i presume

most of the time its the application, and you can tell whether its you or the engine/app when it only occurs sometimes and not every time in a specific area/function

[blissful pilot]

huh..

well that was interesting

my line of code didn't work...

but

I did find out how to disable the SC cams while not breaking 895 and 079

thats funny lol

at least it didn't shit the bed

it tells me im doing something right

[formal sierra]

ngl the way Blitz3D's development workflow kind of reminds me of how you do things in Roblox lol

i haven't touched the development portion of Roblox in years (its ass), but I really did like how you could change a line of code and compile within just a couple seconds

I wouldn't even consider roblox a game engine for most since the projects developed on there are..

interesting

[blissful pilot]

Im really expecting this next experiment to shit the bed

lol

[formal sierra]

what is it

[blissful pilot]

SAME THING AGAIN

damn debug mode

[formal sierra]

could you just build an executable?

[blissful pilot]

im just gonna do what I did before

yeah that

[formal sierra]

does it take a while to build it lol

[blissful pilot]

no, I just end up a million .exes

[formal sierra]

lmao

[blissful pilot]

I run the program A LOT

I've probably ran SCP Containment Breach as a exe over half a million times this year

i kid you not

[formal sierra]

removing the startup videos helps speed up getting into the game a tad

[formal sierra]

WHAT

[blissful pilot]

Thats an even more interesting result

I think its because of Cls the flickering; -but why no video?

[formal sierra]

good question; im not sure if this is related or was something to do with my drivers, but I was experiencing a crap ton of flickering in the demo which I remember you saying you had fixed the flickering on

[blissful pilot]

the flickering is caused by the updating of the movie, or the Cls function, has to be

Im just hoping the flickering is something that can be fixed when the video actually plays and such

christ I did a typo

lets try again

it makes me wonder if the createsprite thingy is throwing it off

[formal sierra]

how do you stay awake this late lmao

fuckin autocorrecy

[blissful pilot]

Red Bull, bad parenting, im a work-aholic, been doing it most of my life, and idk I just kinda do

ive always been a night person

although If I manage to wake up early to get the full day, I do get more done

its just.... sleeping is easier said than done for me

my mind is always.... running

[formal sierra]

i heard that a concrete brick can make it easier

very good sleep experience

[blissful pilot]

people asked me where I get my inspiration for my art and 3D projects; my answer was very simple, I may have use to need inspiration, now.. I have so many ideas in my head, its hard to ever focus on just one; and I never find myself out of ideas or thought on what to do or make next

its more a question of which projects I don't care enough to put time towards, rather than WHAT project

before this remaster, I was actually working on a short film

still want to finish it too; but I decided that I'll do that afterwards

[formal sierra]

fuck I forgot what I was just about to type

[blissful pilot]

I suppose thats progress but

its now white

[blissful pilot]

Incase you're wondering this is what happens any time I launch it from b3d lol

ok THIS was the test that made CB shit the bed lmao

literally, I turn right and it just dies

https://tenor.com/view/rizzler-rizz-rizz-face-turning-head-head-turn-gif-1119903719835860773

[blissful pilot]

By the way, I've proabably ran CB like 50 times today alone

[hallow obsidian]

you are working insanely hard on this project holy hell

[formal sierra]

CB's code is a mess

no wonder they wanted to port to another engine

like for example why is UpdateSecurityCams() not in Update.bb or UpdateEvents.bb and instead in MapSystem.bb lol

genuinely so impressive on how they got an entire game with hours of gameplay into Blitz3D

[formal sierra]

woops it anonymized the executable name

idk if you already found this but its useful

[blissful pilot]

huh?

what that

[blissful pilot]

indeedd

I really want to get progress into it before the contest and before I go back to school in the fall

[blissful pilot]

mainly because its only called in certain rooms, when those rooms load up, the function loads up too

UpdateEvents works a lot like StrictLoads, just to make the game run better

what I cannot figure out, is why in the fuck.. did they use sprites for the monitors

they attached a sprite to the monitor, CopyRect the CCTV footage to that sprite, and then attached that sprite to another sprite for the monitor overlay

like.. whyyyyyyy

and I know why, because sprites only have 2 polygons but still

makes my job so much harder

although, I even tried replacing the sprite with a full on CUBE, and copied the exact same code I had from the demo

and yet STILL

I'm currently copying the code for the monitors and such over to my demo, and if I can get the sprite screen bullshit working there then I should be able to transfer it over

or at least show a professional modder for b3d and get help with it

[formal sierra]

error_log_14

by the way, you haven't added dxwrapper yet right?

will that change anything with BlitzMovie or will it still work since its just interpretING calls and converting them

[blissful pilot]

the error log was because I completely removed the overlay code for 079 and it was trying to load it for other rooms like 106 and what not

[blissful pilot]

and uh, actually ive been using dxwrapper this whole time

but I have an idea

ill throw it into the demo and see if it makes a difference

[formal sierra]

genius

[blissful pilot]

apperently dxwrapper has been used with the demo this whole time too 🙃

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-insane-insanity-crazy-nuts-gif-13969946

[formal sierra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1337871224163930173/1361841455143845919/4x.gif

ngl all the weird ass code in CB overwhelms me lol

[blissful pilot]

this is what I got so far

a lonely monitor

[formal sierra]

also, nevermind, its so you don't need to launch Blitz3D and can just do a compile but it doesn't even work even when you put in the /bin lol

[blissful pilot]

floating, in the vastness of NULL

[formal sierra]

poor monitor

[formal sierra]

bro i might be stupid but idk why these elements asymmetrical

both are only about 0.1px off but it just looks weird and idk how to fix

help me GFX master

wait nvm i might just add a box

yeah im special that made it look more symmetrical

[blissful pilot]

Ive gotten so fricking close chrsit

first third of this is a texture being overlayed by the monitor overlay texture,
the second third is the same but with the BlitzMovie texture being applied to the sprite,
and the third is showing that the BlitzMovie works with the mesh cube

I'm officially reaching out to VB, but I suspect that the blitzmovie texture can't be put onto sprites

[formal sierra]

vane brain save us

[blissful pilot]

pretty much

no wonder I had no luck with it last night though

I mean, if I've tried with this one demo over 100 different ways, and still nothing. then theres the answer as to why it never worked ingame

its the same code

[formal sierra]

is BlitzMovie also proprietary

yup it is

[fading fractal]

well wait

what does blitzmovie output?

[blissful pilot]

it just plays a AVI file, but it has a function to put it on a texture

thats about it as far as I know

[fading fractal]

okay but we may be able to encode the final video with separate tools instead of fiddling with blitzmovie

if you could send an output i could take a look

[blissful pilot]

hm?

BlitzMovie doesn't encode video formats, its a DLL library for Blitz3D (the game engine) to play video files inside the game/engine

its just picky on what video files have what encoding

[fading fractal]

ahh

i thought it was taking videos and converting them to another format

like bink does for example. .bik files

[blissful pilot]

Alright still haven't figured out how to get it in the game, but I've been able to get it working using a cube, for some reason it doesn't work with meshes or sprites the BlitzMovie texture, no idea why. I tried to keep the code as close as can be to what is seen in CB, I also organized the files, and organized the code so its easier to read. everything is labeled in the code.

There's also a .exe demo if you guys wanted to see it in action

I've also sent it to Vain Brain, so hopefully hes willing to help us out, but I have my doubts there, he's a busy man

[formal sierra]

SAVE US VANE BRAIN

no way the keys are fucking numbers in BlitzBasic

KeyDown(31)

bruh\

[blissful pilot]

its just how it is lol

[blissful pilot]

So

I was able to separate the layers, and even get the BlitzMovie AVI to "Play" but it seems to be stuck on the first frame, thats about as far as I gotten

Here's the lines of code to make the ✨Magic ✨ happen if anyone understands it

I've reached out to Vain Brain for possible help, because I'm kinda stumped for tonight, no idea why the playback is stuck like that

but he has yet to get back to me..

I have honestly no idea why it's not working, maybe its just that I'm tired, its like 4am where I am, but because of that, I'm gonna hit the hay for tonight

I'll try again tomorrow, maybe I'll see something I missed

[formal sierra]

hmm

idk, maybe its because DecodeToTexture doesnt update the texture per each frame, that could be it?

idk sorry, I cant understand BlitzBasic well enough to help 😅

[blissful pilot]

das ok

Im gonna try again some more

[formal sierra]

did vane brain get back to ya?

[blissful pilot]

kind of

he didn't answer my second follow up question tho

about the order of them

[formal sierra]

Vane Brain didn't save us

[blissful pilot]

This is giving me such a headache

it literally feels like the game does the complete antithesis of what I'm expecting it to

this is my 19th .exe compiled today

https://tenor.com/view/fry-futurama-new-year-gif-19777162

[blissful pilot]

ok VB actually gave me some useful info

I was actually ready to purchase a strayjacket

Im losing my mind lol

[blissful pilot]

Ok my opinion has been swayed

Vain Brain is fucking awesome and a life saver

https://tenor.com/view/twitter-reicartier-reaction-bloodcartier-gif-22306737

[formal sierra]

VANE BRAIN I LOVE YOU

platonically

[formal sierra]

it looks sick

but damn why does it take so long to load in lol

no wonder you were going crazy

[blissful pilot]

uh huh

and its pretty quick, but compiling the .exe, 4gb patch, finding the .exe starting the game, creating new game, and running to the monitors location just to see the same thing I saw the last 400 times I did it, then closing the game, closing blitz3d and trying to figure out why

^that is what was driving me to insanity

[formal sierra]

debugging hell

i wonder if theres some way to have launch arguments

like idk executing all those functions when launching the game then teleporting to the place you need to checkout

would probably would be more trouble than its worth tho ngl

[blissful pilot]

I gotta figure out the best way to change them, moviefile2$ cannot be set as a Global variable in of itself, but maybe I could do like a global function that's called for the change, and then use that. but here's what it looks like

This comes later too, but I had an idea on how we could incorporate both of these:
we'd do a check/timer to check whether the time the switch is made to the scene, if the BlitzMovie is closer to the end or start of the video which would result in the first one playing, or if its closer to the middle, in which the second would play

it'll take a little bit of work to do, but it'll make it feel more consistent and lively

I think this is the way to go though, the game feels smoother without that CopyRect Updating to the screen

still gotta see if it works with RTX though

might try that now before I continue on

[formal sierra]

i don't think i ever noticed that the desks sink until just now LMAO

[blissful pilot]

ok what the hell

has anyone else had this error?

like I restarted my PC just to be sure, did a fresh install of v1.3.11 and the 0.0.7 RTX mod which has worked on my PC before, but now I'm getting this error

oh I wonder

mmmmm

it could've been when I was trying to compile Blitz3D

I think I uninstalled a version of VC++

shitt

well lemme update those just to be sure

nah its not that

crap

[formal sierra]

i think theres a FATAL ERROR but i could be wrong

[blissful pilot]

maybe my drivers for my gpu

I'll double check those

https://tenor.com/view/error-windows-glitch-gif-5012719

[formal sierra]

you could send me it and i can check

[oak dirge]

I remember seeing that in the code it's literally a driver feature check

[blissful pilot]

huh?

apparently there was a new driver this may, so I'm downloading that now

i'm not sure why not having that would break Remix but I guess we'll find out if that fixes it

if not.. I'm not sure what else to do

this should be the vanilla game

Nah still didn’t fix it

Maybe if I try shutting down my PC and then trying now that it’s installed

Idk

[formal sierra]

😬

[blissful pilot]

That’s my reaction too

I mean it’s not the end of the world, I have other PCs which have been able to run RTX and such, but it’s still worrisome

[formal sierra]

what did you change?

did you just add the RTX files

[blissful pilot]

It’s literally just 0.0.7 of the RTX files and the Vanilla game

Just to rule out variables

[formal sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-cat-gif-5067414931466166810

[blissful pilot]

The thing is, I don’t think I’ve gone INTO the mod in RTX in so long because I’ve been screwing around with compiling the engine this whole time

So as to what could’ve broken it or what changed inbetween now and the last time I had it working; impossible to say

I suppose I could try another RTX game like Portal RTX and see what that does

Although the FATAL ERROR seems to be coming from Blitz3D I think

That’s what it looks like anyhow

So it’s very strange

[formal sierra]

If Not Windowed3D() Then RuntimeError "FATAL ERROR: Your computer does not support the rendering of 3D graphics within a window."

yeah it is from the game for sure

[blissful pilot]

Hm

Fricking weird

Should I disable launcher then?

It’s worked for me before, so it’s still weird that it wouldn’t work :/

[formal sierra]

yeah it doesn't make sense lol

[formal sierra]

one second im trying to find the function

i think it might be Blitz3D-native tho idk how most of this works lol

yeah i couldn't find the function

the only other thing that showed up was just it being in the .exe unfortunately

[blissful pilot]

I'd ask @oak dirge if it works for him

I tried restarting my PC again, no launcher, even deleting RTX.conf all together

nothin

[oak dirge]

It's in the game code

Idr exactly where but I saw it when looking for the camera stuff it's at the very top of one of the files one of the first checks

I played the game with rtx fine on the build you released last week

[blissful pilot]

I did a search in the engine itself and nothing

aha

I found the line of code in the game

its... strange that theres only one line

its in fullscreen_window_fix.bb

[formal sierra]

this one? If Not Windowed3D() Then RuntimeError "FATAL ERROR: Your computer does not support the rendering of 3D graphics within a window."

[formal sierra]

yeah same

[oak dirge]

Yup

[formal sierra]

idk where Windowed3D's function is tho

it doesn't seem to be built into Blitz3D since i couldn't find it anywhere in the source code

[blissful pilot]

its here guys

its a check to see if your device is capable or running 3D graphics in a window

its just weird.. that its acting like I cannot

This is the full snippet

my game runs fine with no Remix and with dxwrapper, but constantly has MAV if no dxwrapper or remix

[formal sierra]

game is on life support

[formal sierra]

also yeah sorry i probably should've provided the full snippet but this still doesn't make sense even with the full thing lmao

[blissful pilot]

also my search bar isn't working

[formal sierra]

in VSC?

switch to Notepad++

trust

[formal sierra]

mine is actually much better because its colorful

[blissful pilot]

ok Portal RTX time

I'm starting to get a little worried

[formal sierra]

the Reset Windows button is calling for you

[blissful pilot]

I’m trying to update the drivers from the Nvidia site directly by searching

I was doing it from the app before

[formal sierra]

are you using StartAllBack?

this happened when the trial expir

oh nvm the shell thing doesn't work either 😭

[blissful pilot]

Ah

[formal sierra]

bruh

[blissful pilot]

And the worst part is I gotta go to work now

So I can’t be here to fix it

[formal sierra]

NOO

do you have an integrated GPU

[blissful pilot]

No

[formal sierra]

you could try disconnecting your discrete one when you get home and see if it was the problem

fuck

[blissful pilot]

Not as far as I know

[formal sierra]

you probably do; if its a modern CPU

[blissful pilot]

It’s an actual Graphics card, like I can take it out

I built my PC myself

It’s probably directly because of my drivers