RTX Remix w/ FSR 3 and Frame Generation

[solid quail]

good point

look mate i ain't gonna lie

you better wait for RDNA 5 alltogether

[sudden night]

Hopefully I have the money by then for those GPUs

[fierce quiver]

I heard AMD has one really good upper mid tier GPU this gen. The 7750XT? idk the naming lol

I recall it having close to the same RT perf as a 4070 with slightly better raster performance too. Kinda wild

[solid quail]

I meant RDNA 5 my bad.
Cuz according to leaks we got, RDNA 4 will be a transit / Refactor of AMD Gpus
the true perf upgrade should be with RDNA 5

[sudden night]

Ah

I just want to upgrade because my GPU doesn't have enough power for my monitor resloution

[solid quail]

AH...

well... That's up to you mate

there was my advice

[sudden night]

I should make my own of this now

[dark marsh]

Couldn't get OptiScaler to work on Windows. Does it only work on Linux?

[sudden night]

Windows and Linux

[dark marsh]

I see. I'll try it on Linux tomorrow, hopefully I'll have better luck.

[undone yoke]

for sure lol

[solid quail]

would take lots of time tho

[solid quail]

Do you know which distro to choose?

If not i would advise something like cachyos, nobara, or endeavor

[dark marsh]

Thanks, I already have Mint installed (it's what a friend uses so they could help me get started). Got it running last month, but so far I've only used it for Portal RTX and a couple other games. Haven't found time to try OptiScaler yet.

[solid quail]

Ah perfect then!

Optiscaller works just fine since it's just dll repkacement. king vulpes did include an other step to follow on linux due to dll changes.

Thank God the hardest part was already made with dxvk remix.

[dark marsh]

Yep, the "WINEDLLOVERRIDES=dxgi=n,b %COMMAND%". Do I just place that as a launch option through Steam?

[solid quail]

Yep, and personally i add "env" before allthat

It's a tiny program that sets the variables only for the running program. A good practice i learnt during my scripting courses at school ;)

[peak mountain]

Vulpes said you dont need to override the dll

Nvm

[sudden night]

I'm not 100% sure anymore, Portal RTX is running without it for me so 🤷

[peak mountain]

oh

since you deleted the message i was confused

[solid quail]

Did someone try fsr 3 by any chance ? NVM i tried it myself it seems like it's the same

[dapper mulch]

FSR 3 broken

[solid quail]

is it ?

it looks like it works for me ?

i had the same framerate tho

[dapper mulch]

meant the FG part

[solid quail]

ahhh

i was talking about the upscaller

[dapper mulch]

upscaler works

[solid quail]

though optiscaller supports DLSS-FG but i kinda lack the usage of such compatibility

like if you support DLSS-FG, then what's the point of using optiscaller in the first place ?

[sudden night]

Upscaler too, for me there's some denoising artifacts in a lot of places

[solid quail]

same tho

i think it's better to switch back to fsr2.2, instead of 3.1 or 2.1 (by default)

[dapper mulch]

pretty sure thats fixed
try building the latest commit

[sudden night]

I'm using 2.1 because 2.2 has a problem where during motion it won't upscale

Tho 2.2 has barley any ghosting compared to 2.1

Maybe I'll use 2.2 for my Desktop since the internal resloution would be higher

[sudden night]

Alr

Also FSR 3 debug view can now be enabled through the .ini

[solid quail]

i'll try and keep you in touch

fsr2.2 works fully

just look over-sharpned compared to 2.1 but i somewhat like it

[sudden night]

I wonder if I can do 4k at FSR ultra performance on my RX 7600 if use the engine tweaks

[summer parcel]

i support this project😄

[crude orchid]

I fear this project has come to a full stop

Vulpes probably has too much on his plate

[undone yoke]

well, we already have FSR 3.1 upscaling in Remix. just not the FG, at least not for AMD users

it works on Nvidia (kinda) right now

[crude orchid]

fg works on nv?

how, when ??

[undone yoke]

#1157192105802862682 message

afaik it's included in the latest dlssg-to-fsr3 build

[sudden night]

I'm super close to breaking and dropping cash on a developer

[crude orchid]

damn

bro, I've been silently rooting for you

for what its worth

xD

[crude orchid]

damn I saw on github that nukem was fiddling with rtx remix

didn't know he went this far

any way to actually try this out ?

or do I just drop the files

in portal rtx

[undone yoke]

well, like i said i think it's in the latest build. just install it to the .trex folder of Remix

[undone yoke]

any luck with the latest optiscaler and its FG?

[sudden night]

Still on DX12 right now

It also seems the dev doesn't really like Vulkan and is unsure about it at the moment

Tho, nukem is contributing to it so who knows

[crude orchid]

shit

I forgot I nuked

my Remix installation

xD

oh well, I'll install it again when Vulpes figures out fsr3 fg

itll probably come around just in time for hl2 rtx

and it will all run flawlessly

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-conspiracy-gif-19179336

[sudden night]

I mean, I've been experimenting with it for Portal 2 with RTX but once I figure it out, I'll happily hand over the code to the Remix team for them to merge

[crude orchid]

and btw I tried that one out too

gj

looks very promising

[sudden night]

Just wait till you see the assets we're cooking up

[crude orchid]

well

I did put FSR3 via nukem

in portal RTX

I get the prompt

I enable DLSS FG ANDDDDD

Blackscreen

GG boys

[undone yoke]

try using it in a game that has up to date Remix

Portal RTX is a bit old now

[sudden night]

I'm pretty sure it was broken in the first place, and unfinished

[crude orchid]

isnt like remix updated anyways?

[crude orchid]

I'm pretty sure it wont work anywhere

hell if nukem gave up on it

its a lost cause

[sudden night]

Portal RTX is still on 0.5.1

Prelude RTX is worse being on 0.3.0

[crude orchid]

anyway to update it?

eh prolly not

[sudden night]

Just download the latest Remix updates from github and drop them into the proper locations, being .trex for dxvk, and next to the .exe for bridge

[crude orchid]

tried multiple stuff, cant seem to replicate nukems result

[sudden night]

I mean, his result wasn't even producing frames, lol

[crude orchid]

yeah but it didnt crash at least xD

mine just gives me a blackscreen and instant crash

[crude orchid]

is this even worth doing?

like in general

[undone yoke]

it partially worked

[crude orchid]

what should I even download lol xD

damn I hate githhub

always disorients me

[undone yoke]

use the downloader in #remix-beginners-guide

it gets the very latest versions

[crude orchid]

I've already downloaded

some version

via the nvidia app

[sudden night]

[crude orchid]

is that not the same?

[sudden night]

I'm still trying to get FSR natively implemented

[crude orchid]

still rooting for ya dude

[undone yoke]

that's the toolkit

you want the runtime

[crude orchid]

\

well 😄

i fucked it all up

doesnt even boot

fuck me bro

lately I can't even follow basic instructions properly

well I FIXED IT

and FG still doesnt work

[summer parcel]

yes, add fg 😄

why dosen't the fsr option appear in dlss-capable cards?(eg. rtx 4090)

do i have to download a forked/modified version of remix for fsr?😄

[solid quail]

if you need someone to test things... i'm here i suppose (not very useful i acknowledge)

[crude orchid]

I tried nukem's new FG

it works finally

but there's massive amounts of ghosting in portal RTX

tried turning off vignetting and postprocessing effects

but to no avail

its still a huge step forward

kudos to @flat wedge

[flat wedge]

try portal prelude rtx if you get a chance

[crude orchid]

Will do

also want to add that I tried your mod both on the latest remix version and the one the game ships with

it was maybe slightly better on the newer version

but it could just be my eyes decieving me

[flat wedge]

there's bugs in remix and (technically) bugs in FSR that prevent it from working properly

[crude orchid]

it seems like its missing data

not that I would know

[flat wedge]

prelude doesn't exhibit the same behavior and I don't know the underlying reason(s) why

[crude orchid]

ill try prelude too, just need to download it first

I'll give it a shot in deus ex too

[crude orchid]

@flat wedge I tried it in prelude and it worked, doesn't work with freesync though

afterwards I dropped the newer remix version 0.6

trex folder and all that

added dlss4 via tweaks

and the game started behaving EXACTLY like portal RTX

same ghosting, same flickering

I assume your mod works with whatever version of remix prelude shipped with

whatever they added later causes some sort of incompatibility, my gamer brain can't really deduce that

anyways if you need help testing I'm all for it

[flat wedge]

I have a general idea of where the bug lies but the remix team will likely be refactoring/rewriting parts of it soon. I'm not gonna bother until MFG/present metering functionality is merged into dxvk-remix

(also thanks for checking)

[crude orchid]

Definitely looking forward to both of those things

maybe my 3070 can finally give a decent experience

without having to rely on my CRT xD

at any rate super thankful for your contributions, I've been waiting for maybe a whole year for FSR3 to sort of work in Remix

and also thank you for making the 30 series viable, I've enjoyed a lot of games thanks to your mod

[solid quail]

how do we install it, please ? 🙏

[sudden night]

Don’t you have an AMD GPU?

[solid quail]

i do

oh, it's nvidia only isn't it ?

[sudden night]

Yeah, Nukem doesn’t spoof

[solid quail]

okay my bad then :(

[flat wedge]

even after correcting the bug in remix, fsr fg still doesn't work properly because of what I can only assume are depth related issues

so this is essentially a bust

[undone yoke]

😦 dang

[sudden night]

https://tenor.com/view/yamada-ryo-bocchi-the-rock-pray-praying-btr-gif-12229033244519657567

I shall get FSR into Remix in your honor

[silver brook]

I hope so!

[weak thistle]

any update

[sudden night]

We’re a step closer to a native implementation, that’s about it

[noble coral]

Is there a FSR 4 SDK?

[sudden night]

No, but we may be receiving help with that

[halcyon flare]

FSR4 doesn't support Vulkan yet and to my understanding RTX Remix uses DXVK to wrap DX8 -11.x to Vulkan as part of its magic. Support for that is happening soon as the Vulkan spec has been updated to support FP8 it needs to function.

[sudden night]

Vulkan did receive FP8 the other day

so it’s just a matter of waiting

[sudden night]

Also, it’s only up to DX9 to Vulkan, no DX10 or DX11

Heck, DX7 and DX8 aren’t natively supported, it’s using a wrapper to DX9

[halcyon flare]

that's weird because they're using DXVK which started off as a DX 11.x to vulkan wrapper

[sudden night]

It’s modified, it does seem to contain the old DX 10 and DX 11 code, but Remix will not work with it

[peak mountain]

any update?

[solid quail]

Hey guys

I have issues installing optiscaler on portal rtx, has anyone achieved it with the latest release?

[sudden night]

That’s been a thing
Optiscaler no longer works with Remix

Doesn’t really matter since there’s a native XeSS implementation now

Though it is slower than FSR

[solid quail]

Wait how, please...? 😦

I missed a lot since the last time i've been here...

https://github.com/NightSightProductions/RTX-Remix-Community-Edition/releases

Oh this is what you're talking about? 😮

[sudden night]

Well that was recent, but it came to Gmod RTX and Portal 2 with RTX (private build) awhile ago

And the main Remix repo has a open PR

All thanks to @ember canopy

[solid quail]

Imma check that out thank you for the info

I was playing around with the leaked fsr4 int8 build

Works well, even on linux

Though i wonder how it can, considering Linux runs ultimately under vulkan for games... and apparently it isn't supposed to work on vulkan

[sudden night]

Really good Translation

It’s just DirectX 12 to Vulkan

And Mesa did a bunch of work for FSR 4 to work under VKD3D

[solid quail]

Even with mesa, fsr4 cannot work on vulkan native games?

[sudden night]

Yeah, because AMD has to code it for Vulkan games

And the leak showed nothing about Vulkan so who knows how far we’re from it

[solid quail]

makes sense now that you mention it 😅

[solid quail]

considering the amount of vulkan native games compared to DX12, it makes sense for them to focus on a full dx12 support first

[sudden night]

Yeah, that’s what they told me, lol

[solid quail]

hah

And yea considering at first they were like "yea no, FSR4 is only for RDNA 4" and yet we managed to get it working on pre RDNA 4 anyways...
It doesn't exclude them working on Vulkan support eventually

[sudden night]

Well the int8 is leaked
And before that, it was emulation which was slower

I think the only reason we have int8 is because of Sony

Their PS5 Pro doesn’t support FP8 which means something like PSSR is probably using something similar