Team Fortress 2

[blazing torrent]

yea no idea for tf2 then

blueamulet might have to look into the patches a bit more ig

[latent pulsar]

the game is running

and raytraced

vertex explosions kaboom

[blazing torrent]

so you ported every x32 patch to x64?

including view frustrum stuff?

[latent pulsar]

mostly yeah

[blazing torrent]

wow nice

[latent pulsar]

hmm

tf_win64.exe -game tf -allowdebug -condebug -dxlevel 70 -w 1920 -h 1080 -noborder -windowed -debug +sv_cheats 1 +r_3dsky 0 +r_WaterDrawReflection 0 +r_WaterDrawRefraction 0 +r_shadows 0 +r_frustumcullworld 0 +r_unloadlightmaps 1 1 +mat_specular 0 +mat_bumpmap 0 +mat_normalmap 0 +mat_parallaxmap 0 +r_staticprop_lod 0 +r_lod 0 +mat_queue_mode 0 -novid -high +r_occlusion 0 +mat_softwarelighting 0

its not a remix thing either

its the enginer

[blazing torrent]

ye some kind of vertex buffer issue for sure

[latent pulsar]

mkk ill look into it

[blazing torrent]

so how did you port the patches? just look at similar functions in ghidra between x32 and x64 dlls?

[latent pulsar]

yeah

my friend did half of the work but hopefully this will allow us to use it in like

the newer 64bit games

[scenic belfry]

dayum lmaobox? 😅

[restive jasper]

i didn't buy it

never used it

so i think i'm safe

[blazing torrent]

so is he gonna make some mini fork based off lmaobox for remix stuff?

[restive jasper]

nah, just add a small thing for us

[latent pulsar]

[restive jasper]

it's really not much

just inject a dll with modified functions

instead of modifying the binary

[latent pulsar]

do you know anything else that could be the issue of the vertex explosions

[restive jasper]

have you tried nsight

[latent pulsar]

no im lazy and fat

[blazing torrent]

i only know its because the engine has some weird bug with sending vertex buffer commands in FF on modern source

hence the integer by zero patches

[restive jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-lets-see-how-it-looks-the-gif-7996276

[latent pulsar]

what would be the issue in the source code

[restive jasper]

-# nsight

[latent pulsar]

im not the one asking...

[restive jasper]

open up nillerusr's engine and go look around

[latent pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/lapiscel-bart-lobotomy-bart-simpson-simpsons-lobotomy-core-gif-13362388248843029081

[latent pulsar]

the patches work for all new 64 bit games

lets goooo

exept for the vertex explosions

[restive jasper]

ahem ahem

nsight

ahem ahem

[latent pulsar]

bro idk how to use allat shit

[restive jasper]

it is very intuitive

you see every draw call

and you can see the geometry

so you can have an idea where it goes wrong

[latent pulsar]

i have it installed

but im too lazy to fuck w the ui

[restive jasper]

y'know what

send me your install

[latent pulsar]

you want the new tf2 patcher?

[restive jasper]

yeah sure

[restive jasper]

anything else i should know about?

[latent pulsar]

no bueno

[restive jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-gif-9980668056796018353

[latent pulsar]

blue is lurking

[latent pulsar]

[scenic belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-hogan-flex-america-gif-13860259

[blazing torrent]

unfortunately these do not work for gmod x64, though blueamulet's existing patches for x64 work fine

most of the culling patches dont work either but i already assumed that since gmod changed all of the r_cullbox functions

ty rubat

[latent pulsar]

they work for all of the valve 64x

[latent pulsar]

i would get my friend to fix the gmod ones

but i already have bugged him enough

[blazing torrent]

its fine, we dont really need the other patches, just the materialsystem and shaderapidx9 ones i already have

[latent pulsar]

still lost as fuck

[slate hazel]

do we have a fix for the vertex explosions?

[restive jasper]

aparently not

since jessica does not want to try nsight

[latent pulsar]

FATTY

[spark coyote]

@latent pulsar just gonna fish you gl with your work 🫡

I'm not fixing my typo

[latent pulsar]

[spark coyote]

explode!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[restive jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/spaghetti-gif-24457079

source be like

[restive jasper]

whoah, almost a month went by

[latent pulsar]

source spaghetti

[scenic belfry]

dayum

[restive jasper]

yep

who can test if it works with tf2

[latent pulsar]

wdym

[restive jasper]

the 1.0 release

[latent pulsar]

sure boss ill check

[restive jasper]

❤️

[latent pulsar]

yummers

[blazing torrent]

x32 i imagine?

[latent pulsar]

YEAH

caps

idk how to fix the patches any farther

[shell totem]

mercenaries dont care about no smoking inside warnings

[restive jasper]

or it's a hell lot of dust

[scenic belfry]

is it the latest remix build?

[latent pulsar]

yes

[reef berry]

@latent pulsar Also, I was wondering, do I need TF2_port to use the RTX remix?

[latent pulsar]

wdym

[blazing torrent]

i think they're asking about the tf2 2007 port we got remix working with a while ago

[latent pulsar]

oh

im gonna write a tutorial for modern tf2 2025 edition

[reef berry]

ok

@latent pulsar how do i get tf2 looking like that in the picture

[restive jasper]

and uhh, how's it going?

[latent pulsar]

wdym

tutorial or in general

[restive jasper]

both

[latent pulsar]

none general wise

no patch progress

and none tutorial

procrastination!

[restive jasper]

oh

then uhh

way to go superstar 🌠

[latent pulsar]

Step 1: Open the Steam Console

• Press Win + R to open the Run dialog.
• Enter the command: steam://open/console and press Enter.

Step 2: Paste This in the Console

• In the Steam console window that opens, paste the following command:
  download_depot 440 232251 3545034868298892873

• This will start downloading the necessary depot for Team Fortress 2.

Step 3: Find the Downloaded Files

• Once the download is complete, the files will be located at:
  C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\content\app_440\depot_232251

Step 4: Copy the Files to Your TF2 Installation

• Copy the files from the above location and paste them into your Team Fortress 2 installation folder (usually located at steamapps\Team Fortress 2\).
• If prompted, select Replace for any existing files.

Step 5: Prepare Your Files

• Download the latest version of RTX Remix and extract the archive into:
  steamapps\Team Fortress 2\bin
• Download BlueAmulet's SourceRTXTweaks Patcher and save it to:
  steamapps\Team Fortress 2\
• Download remix.bat, dxvk.conf, and rtx.conf from the repository and save them in the same folder:
  steamapps\Team Fortress 2\

Step 6: Install Python

• Download and install Python. Be sure to select the option to add Python to your PATH during installation.

Step 7: Apply the Patch

• Open a CMD window inside steamapps\Team Fortress 2\.
• Run the command:
  python applypatch.py
• The patched files will be located in the steamapps\Team Fortress 2\patched folder.

Step 8: Copy Patched Files

• Copy the two folders inside the patched folder.
• Paste them into steamapps\Team Fortress 2\, overwriting existing files.

Step 9: Launch the Game

• Run the game using the remix.bat file.
• If you want to change resolutions, open remix.bat and modify the -w (width) and -h (height) parameters to match your disp

[restive jasper]

oh, so we're using the pre-64bit version?

[latent pulsar]

yes

64 bit no ready

[restive jasper]

64 bit no, but 32 bit in new tf2

[latent pulsar]

yes

[restive jasper]

or old tf2 32bit

answer "old tf2" or "new tf2 x64" or "new tf2 x32"

[latent pulsar]

old 32bit

[restive jasper]

thanks

[stark shuttle]

Fun fact I think TF2 is allowed to have mods published to Steam

https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063

[rocky loom]

TF2 Classic is surely published

[dapper bluff]

Does this game detect remix as cheating or does online work?

[stark shuttle]

I think there was some recent news on this

[stark shuttle]

In Gmod it doesn’t so I don’t know about TF2

[dapper bluff]

I’m pretty sure they use different anti cheat’s

Sounds like they both use VAC

From what Google says

Atleast

[stark shuttle]

Yeah, I think all Valve games use VAC

[fast glacier]

It automatically kicks you claiming you to be in insecure mode

[stark shuttle]

We must make our own servers then

[dapper bluff]

Well

If we some how made VAC less servers, it’d work

[fast glacier]

Insecure servers are a thing

[near vine]

we need to give them more confidence

[fast glacier]

Sounds like a good spa day to me

[near vine]

fuck i wish i could have a spa day

never had one

[fast glacier]

Spa days are actually a mental reset istg

[near vine]

another thing to add to the list

[dapper bluff]

I recommend hunting days, very peaceful

[latent pulsar]

no spa day chat in tf2

https://tenor.com/view/spy-gif-22037253

[crystal yarrow]

?

[crystal yarrow]

help i instaled it but theres just a black screen any advice

[latent pulsar]

where

[crystal yarrow]

the entire window is black and remix doesn't create the rtx-remix folder

[crystal yarrow]

no longer black but still no remix

[crystal yarrow]

I cant download the depot

[restive jasper]

oh no!

what did you try?

@crystal yarrow

it's been a while, any progress on the patches?

[latent pulsar]

balls

[restive jasper]

can anyone test if any update fixed/broke modern tf2?

[crystal yarrow]

no not any so far

[crystal yarrow]

got everything working except for some lights flickering but yea it works

[tiny bay]

show!

[latent pulsar]

show...

[crystal yarrow]

the lights turn on and off depending on how close I am

[latent pulsar]

32 bit?

[crystal yarrow]

yea

[latent pulsar]

fuck

[crystal yarrow]

What?

[restive jasper]

modern 32 bit?

[crystal yarrow]

yea

[restive jasper]

that is still a big step forward

[latent pulsar]

64 bit tho...

[restive jasper]

pal licho

we have modern 32 bit

[crystal yarrow]

anybody know how to fix lights turning on and off depending on how close the player is?

[latent pulsar]

unfixable

atm

@blazing torrent

back me up here

🤓

[crystal yarrow]

ok thx anyway

[fast glacier]

🫡

🤓

[scenic belfry]

wat O_o

[dim harness]

r/softwaregore

[stark shuttle]

TF2 RTX when

[blazing torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/your-mom-spy-tf2-team-fortress2-sheesh-gif-21838783

[restive jasper]

idk nobody here wants to fuck around with binary patches that get outdated pretty much every update

[latent pulsar]

weird source voodoo

and people r cucks and don't wanna do it

or don't know how

[scenic belfry]

never 😭

[restive jasper]

i bricked my pc if anyone cares

[stark shuttle]

Basically all I got was: everyone is scared to do it

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-shia-la-beouf-do-it-gif-4531935

[blazing torrent]

i think its just not a game that needs to be remixed lol

unless we really wanna recreate phong and toon shading shaders in remix 💀

[stark shuttle]

I think the main problem is it’s a live service game still being updated and anything could break Remix

[blazing torrent]

way less frequent than gmod lmao

and most updates don't break gmod anyway lol

[latent pulsar]

i'd be cool

https://tenor.com/view/brock-lesnar-flex-flexing-tongue-out-wwe-gif-16447327

[scenic belfry]

damn how u did tat boah

[restive jasper]

fixed it

i uhh

accidentally

set my cpu to 45 mhz

[spark coyote]

can’t you just use an older build

and stick to that

and then eventually publish that to Steam

am I missing something

[stark shuttle]

I feel like that would break something considering it’s a multiplayer game and connects to servers

Also I don’t think anyone is thinking of a Steam build which yes, would allow you to choose when you update the base game

[spark coyote]

it’s not an online only game

I’m pretty sure you can downgrade to some old ass 2016 build and play with friends through Steam network

as long as they’re on the same version

and you can also just play locally on any version

[stark shuttle]

Kinda limits what you can do
How many people do we expect to realistically use an RTX version?

Or an older version for that matter

[tiny bay]

think the appeal for playing is not very high

but for demos, replays and content creation

I can imagine a lot of people being interested

[spark coyote]

no one if it doesn’t exist

and it’d have to be on Steam, yes

which is now allowed

[spark coyote]

TF2 hasn’t received an actual major update in like a decade

[stark shuttle]

Was it not before? Valve has stated your allowed to make mods of their ip on Steam

I do see there’s some mods finally on Steam for TF2 such as TF2 Classic

[spark coyote]

TF2 classic was based on the leaked code

that’s why it wasn’t allowed to be published afaik

[stark shuttle]

Ah

I’m guessing the other mod TF2 Legacy was also?

Which is also on Steam

[spark coyote]

since they’ve open sourced the sdk, it allows people to publish to Steam

[spark coyote]

yeah

[stark shuttle]

Oh, I didn’t know TF2 SDK was open

[spark coyote]

it is

[stark shuttle]

Wish they would open the others like Portal 2 and Left 4 Dead 1/2

Especially since Source 2 is their main focus now

All I can offer for a TF2 RTX is publishing, I’m already directing one project and I’ve never really played TF2 so it’s not something I would be passionate about

[spark coyote]

Anyway TF2: Remix could be a vision of what the game might have looked like in Source 2

it’d be neat

[stark shuttle]

Remix can look very close to Source 2 (Gmod RTX as an example)

But I don’t think anyone is interested in picking it up currently

Unless you wanna ask the Source 2 team that got shut down to do it

[spark coyote]

they are most definitely not interested

[latent pulsar]

i'd be down to do a steam published version

there's like zero reason to do it but bored

performance is the only thing that's worrying in general about tf2 rtx i might add

it's really really really really bad

especially multiplayer

[stark shuttle]

One benefit is we have a x64 version now so no more fucking bridge

Maybe @blazing torrent has some tips on optimizing considering Gmod RTX is so good in performance