[OLD] Star Wars Republic Commando

[jolly rover]

this is my geometry hash view when the environment disappears (most likely because its the skybox cube)

[timber kestrel]

Marking sky textures usually can deal with disappearing environments, but it depends on the game. As for the unstable hash on the viewmodel, it's because Remix doesn't support Geometry hashing on skeletal objects. There are tricks you can pull to change the rules on geometry hashing but they can have unintended side effects like lumping multiple unrelated objects into the same hash.

[jolly rover]

ah

also a round just ended, and the game decided to crash

so that might be something to look into

the crash window itself didnt say anything particularly interesting

yeah thats too technical for me, something about an object being discovered in Swapchain map at Direct3D module eviction

[timber kestrel]

If you can gather your logs in the gamedir\System folder, you may want to make a Github issue for that: https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues

[jolly rover]

idk why people keep asking me to do that lmao

I dont like github 😂

idk how to use it

it just sounds so complicated

i ask a million questions on just how to install something from there

[timber kestrel]

Github issues go straight to the Nvidia developers and project manager that are working on Remix, and it all gets filed to an internal issue tracking board. So if you file it there there's a someone will take a look and possibly assign someone to work on a fix.

[jolly rover]

no no i get that, I'm just useless with github lol

[normal comet]

Star Wars: Republic Commando works, To make the game work:
-you need to download dxwrapper d3d8to9
-you need to download "Republic Commando Fix"
-in the Movies folder of the game delete the videos "LECIntro" and "NVIDIAIntro"
-Go to the graphics settings of the game and change them as shown in the picture
-The game has some problems with the rtx remix menu so instead of messing with it, you can just download my bridge.config and put it inside the "trex" folder
https://github.com/crosire/d3d8to9/releases/tag/v1.12.0

https://github.com/SWRC-Modding/CT/releases

[normal comet]

Republic Commando Fix 👆

The game has a problem with lightmaps. Every time you see a texture that looks like the textures marked in orange, click on it and mark it as "lightmap texture" and that should solve the problem.

important: the rtx remix files should be placed in the "system" folder

my rtx.config

[jolly rover]

👍

[storm marsh]

is it know if frame gen works? I toggled it on and it worked fine initially, crashed seconds later

okay yeah, definitely doesn't work

[storm marsh]

any tips on culling? When I look in certain directions I can start to see through walls and whatnot in a clearly unintended way

it's not just messing with the lighting

I also noticed when I killed the last enemy in the immediate area it fixed itself

[storm marsh]

when doing a scene capture in the first mission, it completes suspiciously fast and the output file is only 65KB. When opening the scene in the Remix Toolkit I only get the skybox with a darker square

[normal comet]

strange🧐 , because I did a capture myself for one of the levels and it worked great

[normal comet]

yep I have this problem myself, I guess it's a problem related to the way rtx remix detects the sky automatically(?) I recommend turning off the auto sky if it's on and trying to manually mark the sky textures in the game

[storm marsh]

actually about that, I've seen a lot of talk about the auto sky detect but there's no option for it. Do you mean I have to manually un-tag it in the textures tab?

[normal comet]

Game Setup---> parameter tuning---> sky tuning---> sky auto detect--> turn off

then go to "categories textures" find the sky textures and mark them as "sky texture"

and maybe this will solve the problem, because sometimes the automatic system detects unrelated textures as sky textures.

[storm marsh]

funnily enough, the automatic detection is better

this is without sky auto detect

this is with auto detect set to camera

it fixes the issues with geometry being seen through walls

[storm marsh]

this

I could've done better with the screenshots. But take note of the grating top left of the crosshair

and behind the gun on the right side, part of the map geo is just hollow/see through without auto detect

better side-by-side

[normal comet]

really strange 🧐 when I get home I will try to solve the problem

[vapid lotus]

im modding swrc for 3/2 years now, should be playable in rtx remix but let me tell you the game itself is complete garbage in terms of stability, if anyone needs this info lol

and alot of stuff is hardcoded straight into the game, but dont know if thats an issue on rtx remix.

[storm marsh]

Could you share some examples? For things that are hardcoded I mean

[vapid lotus]

Most of the hud is hardcoded, crosshair, ammo, fonts etc

and the screen you see on your helmet is a physical plane in front of the camera

which may or may not affect shading

[storm marsh]

Yeah that did cause issues with Remix initially

[storm marsh]

If you look at the screenshots he posted here, a lot of stuff is missing

[vapid lotus]

oh yeah for sure

[storm marsh]

I had to manually mark the textures as UI within Remix to get them to show properly

And by hardcoded I guess you mean it's all thrown together rather than individual pieces? Because what's what I noticed. After marking one texture as UI a huge chunk of it just started working

[vapid lotus]

here is a (customized) version of the helmet, but the plane is the same, which always caused issues with stuff such as reshade

[storm marsh]

That would probably explain why the helmet showed right away. If it's a texture in front of the camera rather than UI (if I understand what you mean correctly)

[vapid lotus]

i dont know if it applies to remix, but texture dimensions mostly are hardcoded, f.e the crosshair just doesnt work if you scale it above its original resolution

[vapid lotus]

its a texture, the hud in rc is physically on there

[storm marsh]

I think Remix should be able to get around that actually, as it does asset swapping independently of the game engine

[vapid lotus]

same goes for the font, its hardcoded to its size

[vapid lotus]

like i said, dont really know lol, tried remix but sadly didnt load on AMD

[storm marsh]

This might be interesting to try and see if Remix can overcome the limitations you mention

[vapid lotus]

sadly 4gb patch also barely works, game is just a car taped with duct tape to get it running lol

[storm marsh]

I wonder how much that'll be an issue with Remix, if at all

You mentioning this makes me more determined to look deeper into this lol

[vapid lotus]

ram isnt an issue, game is 32 but but remix bypasses that afaik

[storm marsh]

I think it does yeah

[vapid lotus]

im scared i did all the modding for nothing just to get obliterated by rtx remix mods lol

[storm marsh]

What mods did you work on? I'm basically rediscovering the game since playing it as a kid on Windows Vista, so I'm behind the curve on that

[vapid lotus]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/rc-reskin-remaster

we've changed a ton compared to the original, but now we're working on getting normal maps in game and changing models

even working on a super ultrawide hud

[storm marsh]

Wait this is fantastic. I remember seeing this when looking at moddb for the RTX.conf file to get started

[vapid lotus]

btw you may lose eax support on rtx remix, but im not sure

[storm marsh]

Would you mind sharing some assets to test within Remix? I imagine whatever you have is significantly better than what I would get with Remix's AI tools

[storm marsh]

I haven't seen anything yet that indicates this

[vapid lotus]

i could send some assets, but whats the point if i may ask?

If you're really determined i can add you to our server and see if we can merge it together with our mod in the future, if you want

but i think there is gonna be a ton of bugs

[storm marsh]

With your mod you replace the vanilla assets within the base engine, so a part of me is curious what that process would be like using those same assets but going through Remix. I know basically nothing about texture creation and Nvidia's AI tools have given me very underwhelming results so far. So it would help see what the game could look like with better textures + pathtracing and help me learn the process of using the toolkit more

[vapid lotus]

i suppose its just importing a model with the materials, link textures and materials in rtx remix and you're ready to go, but i dont know if the hud elements will work

[storm marsh]

Yes I'd love an invite to your server, you can add and DM me. As for merging it do you mean making a Remix version of your mod as an option?

[vapid lotus]

we could make it an addon yes, or just a whole seperate branch

[storm marsh]

I'm feeling like a kid again thinking of what might be possible lol. Getting better assets it's probably the hardest part beyond initial compatibility with Remix

[vapid lotus]

oh boy we just found out how great textures can look in rc with good normals, its insane

this is unreal engine 2

in RC

[storm marsh]

That does look great

Damn it's gonna be a while till I'm off work lol currently on a short break

So I won't be able to actually tinker around for a while

[vapid lotus]

i added you, just tag me if you're available

i feel like there is potential here, but it will require a ton of work

i think

[storm marsh]

If my experience replacing the textures with the AI generated ones was anything to go by, it was actually extremely easy

[vapid lotus]

does it upscale them or generate complete new ones?

[storm marsh]

I took 3 of the most commonly used rock/stone textures in Geonosis, ran them through the AI which generated a new texture similar to the original with normals and roughness

I believe it's a new texture. That's what I think I saw looking at Nvidia's blog on it

[vapid lotus]

Alright, interesting

[storm marsh]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/comparisons/nvidia-rtx-remix-generative-ai-texture-tool-comparison-002/

4K comparison of one of the examples

Dunno why the embed mentions cyberpunk

I could be wrong, but it does look like a new texture with how much more detail there is

[vapid lotus]

It looks... okay i guess, raw textures still look better though

[vapid lotus]

its taking the original as an example and recreates a new one

its basically upscale but it adds its own stuff

[storm marsh]

Yeah that's my understanding

And yes, I was pretty underwhelmed using it in practice

In fact it was nothing remotely like that example in the link

You can toggle the replaced assets on and off while in-game so I'll share a comparison later

According to others in the community who've been using other AI tools for texturing, Nvidia's implementation is pretty poor even when using an ideal input

[vapid lotus]

not so surprising tbh, it sounded too good to be true

[storm marsh]

I'm sure some of that has to do with their model being built entirely in-house with no outside textures used to train with

I know there are AI models that can generate PBR information from a texture input, so I wonder what that would look like using better textures as a base

And using better models ofc

[vapid lotus]

yeah, i think it could work on custom textures, but geometry is better to use raw textures

[storm marsh]

Sorry, would you mind rewording that

I'm a little lost lol

[vapid lotus]

as in, rocks and stones and landscape textures are better to get from a source somewhere with very high detail textures

and stuff like generators and walls with custom textures are maybe better to do with the AI stuff

[storm marsh]

Ah I think I understand

That makes sense

I've seen some really fantastic results seeing other people use AI texturing tools for Remix (not Nvidia's) so it's still something I want to explore

[vapid lotus]

our textures are just upscaled, looks a bit sharper but it gets pretty smoothed out

[storm marsh]

I still need to figure out some culling issues I was having last night too. There's a small underground passage in an early part of the first mission that has a lot of potential to show off pathtracing but it shows as pitch black without proper assets for most directions looked at

I was about to do some basic tinkering with emissives though, like a fire texture casting light and shadow in the corner of a room

Super cool stuff and it just took a toggle to try it

[vapid lotus]

like i said, there will likely be a ton of bugs

[storm marsh]

I want to do the same for the blaster bullet particles

[vapid lotus]

does it run stable in rtx remix?

as in 60 ish fps

and not freezing everytime

[storm marsh]

It doesn't freeze at all at this point

As for 60fps? Not doable as of now

But I don't know much about performance scaling in Remix. I can't use frame generation or the game immediately crashes. DLSS works just fine however

I think I saw an Nvidia dev said it was normal to expect low performance starting out, but I could be missing context

[vapid lotus]

i tried some captures too, got one but the game barely loaded lol

but the viewport in rtx remix was just black

which is i suppose because im running amd

[storm marsh]

Yes I know exactly what you mean

Actually no

I had the same problem, but the other user here was able to fix it it seems

By changing some stuff in remix and providing his config file

I can share mine later since I made my own tweaks further, might fix your issue

[vapid lotus]

hmm, alright

might be worth a try if its actually incompatible with amd lol

[storm marsh]

There's TAAU as an alternative to DLSS so it might be manageable to run depending on your card

[vapid lotus]

i've got afmf

[storm marsh]

I know RTX remix as a whole is compatible

[vapid lotus]

if it works on remix atleast

[storm marsh]

Does that require certain APIs to work? Remix uses Vulkan

[vapid lotus]

oh

yeah afmf only works on dx11/12

but i have a 6800xt

[storm marsh]

Damn

[vapid lotus]

so rt SHOULD be fine

it runs in released games but rtx remix seems heavy when your scene is unoptimized

[storm marsh]

That, and remix is generally heavier than most RT enabled games

Since it's full on pathtracing

I'm curious how it'll run for you

[vapid lotus]

afaik path tracing runs fine on amd, alan wake (which i think had pathtracing) got like a 120% driver boost last time

with path tracing

ok it was 20 to 35%

lol

just checked

[storm marsh]

That's fair lol

Alan Wake I think overlayed the pathtracing on top of the baked lighting for better and worse

So it was still a mixed solution unlike say, Cyberpunk which replaced virtually all lighting with pathtracing

[vapid lotus]

true

[storm marsh]

Even that still had rasterized elements though. Remix is entirely pathtraced, not a single aspect uses rasterization to my knowledge

But that enables some wild stuff like simulation of water refractions and whatnot. There's some examples in this server

[vapid lotus]

and uses insane performance lol

[storm marsh]

True, but it's good this stuff is out now so by the time there are released RTX remix mods available to download chances are people will be on better GPUs by then

[vapid lotus]

i dont know what remix does with hardcoded stuff, but if you really want rc to look nice, as in hd text and relatively nice looking gui and such, you'd need to code it in a dll

i do have a dll for the crosshair and some ui elements, thats why our mod has a hd crosshair and a not so low res looking menu

[vapid lotus]

fair

but remaking 20 year old games only to release them so that only the newest gpu's can run them sounds kinda

off

lol

[storm marsh]

Yeah I imagine the dlls might mess with Remix, guess we'll see

[vapid lotus]

and maybe even phase out almost all amd users

[vapid lotus]

i dont know how remix handles it

but its not my code so i cant just hand it over

we got it with permission

[storm marsh]

It's hard to say, I was running Remix on basically max settings with RC, but even a 2060 could play Portal RTX if you compromised on settings

At 60fps I should add

[vapid lotus]

1080p?

[storm marsh]

Nvidia made a good chart showing recommended settings for all their GPUs

Yes, with DLSS of course

[vapid lotus]

that makes it 720p lol

or lower

damn

[storm marsh]

But since these games have more simple geometry with little if any subpixel detail, you can get away with lower quality DLSS settings and it still looks good

[vapid lotus]

we were thinking of just baking ray traced lighting on the textures in rc

[storm marsh]

That sounds like a very manual and intensive process

[vapid lotus]

it is

but everything in rc is

so im used to it lol

[storm marsh]

I imagine so, but I have high hopes that Remix can overcome some of that. Like with the cross hair/HUD, I'm gonna try to make it ultrawide to test if it runs into the same issue you do when working with the native engine

Since the HUD is almost entirely within one texture it'll have to be done in a really janky way though. Like squishing the aspect ratio of the texture, AI upscaling (should look good bc it's simple), then letting the game stretch the texture to the proper aspect ratio with Remix's replacement texture

[vapid lotus]

thats what we're doing in the mod lol

but we made the ui by hand

we even have one for 32:9 but its not fully functional yet

[storm marsh]

I thought the game engine didn't support higher res UI?

[vapid lotus]

only the one with the grenade and stuff works

the rest doesnt

[storm marsh]

Ah okay

[vapid lotus]

thus why we have a dll for them

[storm marsh]

I feel pretty confident it can be done without the DLLs through Remix

Due to how it works

[vapid lotus]

i hope so

if you want i can add you to the server

[storm marsh]

Yes that would be great

[vapid lotus]

i am limiting it to general though, since some people just look trough everything and decide they dont want to do it anymore

[storm marsh]

Understood

One thing before I gotta dip though, I saw you said on the page that you replaced models. How many/what models are covered by the mod?

[vapid lotus]

not much yet

[storm marsh]

After spending a LOT of time experimenting and trying to figure out the Remix toolkit, I'm gonna start from scratch and see what I can accomplish without getting screwed over by a random setting I forgot I messed with

[storm marsh]

THE GAME DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE

[storm marsh]

fixed it, will share what happened later

to be clear, for the lighting here I just tagged the gun barrels/gear to emit light, otherwise the scene was too dark

I disabled it right after taking the screenshot

the soft shadows of the commandos look great against the wall

by tagging the right textures as UI you fix a TON of the visual errors

I've been very carefully tagging textures as needed without going overboard with it. Mainly to fix things, but also seeing if I can make things like the blaster lasers emit light. So far that hasn't worked though, strangely enough. Maybe I have to mark it also as a particle or beam?

calling it a night for now

[ocean blaze]

Looking great! Keen to see your progress 🙏🏻

[spring bridge]

I’ve been tagging for the first three levels, for some reason tagging the effects textures like blasters, explosions, blood caused them to vanish or not render correctly. Tagging them as UI worked great but they’re now only affected by raster lighting

[vapid lotus]

blaster laser was a shader or some sort, i can check for ya if you want

[storm marsh]

I found that some things just mostly worked without tagging, so I'm trying to do the minimum account I need to ensure a base level of functionality

[storm marsh]

Yes that might help. I wonder how we could recreate that effect so it works with RT if that's the case

I'm sure one of the Nvidia guys would know

[vapid lotus]

but does the ui fully work?

im surprised if it does

as in does the compass, grenade count and such work

[storm marsh]

It's nearly perfect from what I've experienced so far

[vapid lotus]

wow

[storm marsh]

After tagging them as UI textures in Remix

Which I guess bypasses the RT to make it a screenspace rasterized element?

That's my understanding

[vapid lotus]

i wonder if the helmet scales like in rc though, because it physically scales to the resolution

which is why you get these stretched helmets

mind if you can send your config files? i really wanna try it out lol and see if new assets work, ive seen the livestream from yesterday so i know the workflow

[storm marsh]

I'd love to but I'm heading out to work in just a moment

I probably should've posted it last night, but I'll do so when I'm home

[vapid lotus]

dont worry, just send it when you got time

timezones are annoying though

[storm marsh]

Yeah no kidding lol. I'll try to get in the habit of posting my config whenever I make some decent progress

Before heading to bed

[timber kestrel]

You just need to capture a USD and give the blaster laser an emissive map, usually that'll do the trick.

These screenshots look great 👀

[storm marsh]

Thanks for the heads up! Is there a way to browse textures not shown in the scene itself? I have the USD but it's just the environment, where would I go to find the blaster laser texture? Still learning the tools

[storm marsh]

Thanks the more I learn the more ideas come up in my head to make it look amazing

Originally I had relatively limited plans but now I'm wanting to learn more to make something a little more ambitious

Right now they're just ideas though, gotta get the ball rolling first

[timber kestrel]

I will say the process of adding said improvements is much easier now but if you have a game where add light to textures doesn't work, I used to have a Unity based GUI tool for marking objects in batch and I used it to make a mod for Anachronox using the emissives instead of light sources. I don't think I'd recommend that tool versus the official toolkit but there's still a few folks using it despite its rough edges.

So, in short, the adding light process is a lot easier than you think. 😅

[storm marsh]

Well tagging adding light to textures in Remix didn't give the result I wanted with the blaster lasers (as in it didn't really do anything) but I imagine an emissive map would work since it's manual?

It's also hard to know sometimes which textures are what, since they'll look like they should emit light for a striking result but next thing I know bullet impacts on walls have a bright white light that kills the scene

I need to get the right colors out of emissives, and figure out how to get the main distant light sources to have more color to it

I'll have to look into light maps more but if it's what it sounds like then I should be able to do the same for the visors on the commandos, just more subtle

[timber kestrel]

The long story short is basically, the add light to textures category is just a hack for some very uncooperative objects in Portal. When you're making PBR replacements in the toolkit, you can add an Emissive map which will essentially make highlighted parts of the texture glow and contribute to GI.

[vapid lotus]

anyway to fix this? tried the bridge.conf but dont know if i put it in the correct folder

[storm marsh]

Check stage lights in the top right

I forgot the exact setting but one needs to be enabled or else everything's pitch black

[vapid lotus]

i mean

lol

[storm marsh]

Oh is it your first time opening it?

[vapid lotus]

yeah

[storm marsh]

Close remix and relaunch it. Open the project again

There's a bug where you need to reload for decent performance

Even my 4090 got 7fps on first load

After reopening its like 100+

[vapid lotus]

also close omniverse?

still 0 fps

also doesnt display a gpu

so its probably still because im running amd

[storm marsh]

Omniverse was specifically designed to support all GPUs with RT

In one of the bottoms in the top left of the viewport, there's a toggle for something with "Pixar" in it. That was implemented to support other GPUs

I vaguely remember hearing that

@vapid lotus

[vapid lotus]

let me check

greyed out

or should i capture it that way

[storm marsh]

Pixar storm is the right one, not sure why it's greyed out

[storm marsh]

I would ask in one of the other channels about it, I'm sure someone knows what's up

Your GPU should run it fine enough

I think #1199022356996309122 is the right one but it might take up to an hour to get a response

And people are okay with answering stuff in #general-remix from what I've seen

[storm marsh]

AFAIK this is the furthest along rtx.conf available for Republic Commando. This has the most gamebreaking visuals fixed up at least through Geonosis I believe

UI works and everything

still work to be done but it's a world of difference to a fresh install of the remix runtime on SW:RC

@vapid lotus here's that if you wanna mess around with the runtime at all

[storm marsh]

well my dumb ass forgot I reset the config to start fresh :)

[storm marsh]

I'm finding a LOT of assets that are reused in different ways that fk up what I have in mind to do lol

for example there's a cube in one of the transition areas in the original that shows a hologram of a clone helment inside, but currently dunno how to get that working. At the very least I wanted to make these cubes emissives but because they're randomly placed in another scene, that trait carries over

this is gonna be trickier than I thought

this is the scene and these are the cubes I'm referring to

but the scene after this has the commandos in a VR training room and these cubes are just randomly there in the air

not even visible within the game itself from what I remember

but I could just be blind

[jaunty relic]

would you guys say this game is playable?

[storm marsh]

see: weird re-use

[storm marsh]

I'm a little iffy on calling it playable

but it depends on what the criteria for playable is with remix

[jaunty relic]

partially playable maybe?

Game boots and has good enough graphics to play. You can play it, but you cannot complete it for various reasons, such as needing replacements to see in required areas. Another example is that it may crash or is unstable

[storm marsh]

after tagging textures absolutely

I've had no issues with crashing or instability

[jaunty relic]

okay, i'll update it then

do you have a conf file i can upload for it?

[storm marsh]

yes I can give mine, it fixes some major issues with the default settings

one sec

here you go

[jaunty relic]

all updated, thank you 🙂

[storm marsh]

hope it helps someone

[storm marsh]

found it in the scene capture

weird that it doesn't render out of the box

I'm gonna look into it more, it shouldn't be marked as UI if it's a 3D model

at least I would imagine

[timber kestrel]

If it's marked as World Space UI it'll be rasterized while respecting the original camera perspective rules, sometimes a good pick for 3D HUD elements though not always.

There's also a few related to first person viewmodels but I don't know how those work exactly, tbh. I used them in my Red Faction profile but to some very mixed results.

[storm marsh]

the world space UI toggle didn't change anything, only tagging it as UI made it show up

I ran into a bunch of strange issues messing with stuff after

[timber kestrel]

If it's tagged as UI it definitely shouldn't show up in captures... 🤔 unless I'm missing something, I'll admit I'm not at 100% tonight.

[storm marsh]

sorry, I mean ingame

the UI has been a bit of a rough process so far with my tinkering today

[timber kestrel]

Yeah, it can be a pretty tedious process with how intricate some of the immersive HUDs get. Still, great progress so far. 🙂

[vapid lotus]

yeah its a physical model

[vapid lotus]

well eh, its sort of playable at 800x600 at 50% res scale lol

[storm marsh]

Did you also change the Remix graphics settings? I had them basically maxed. 4 bounces per ray, everything on high (ultra? I forget)

If you set bounces to 1 or 2 and lower the other settings there should be a big bump to perf. Did wonders in portal rtx

There's a lot of scaling possible in those settings on top of the res scale

Try the settings on the left

These are from digital foundry when portal rtx released

[vapid lotus]

Ill try it out soon

[storm marsh]

Forgot to mention, I'd leave volumetrics off because I haven't tuned it at all. The default doesn't look awful but it could be so much better

[vapid lotus]

Alright

[neat summit]

Hey, mind explaining what had to be done, trying to get it to run myself atm but it doesn't seem to hook.

[storm marsh]

Sure thing. If I'm remembering correctly the order of steps matters quite a bit so I would recommend a fresh install potentially. Here's what got it working for me:

1. Run the unmodded game normally, should run in DX8 mode as intended
2. Copy the graphics settings as shown in the last screenshot of the message I'm replying to^
3. Close the game. Now install both the d3d8to9 wrapper (link below) and the latest RTX remix build at the same time inside the same folder as the game executable - not the root folder. It's inside a folder called System
4. Place the attached rtx.conf file in the game executable folder with everything else
5. Launch the game to ensure RTX Remix hooks. If you see the Press Alt+X to open Remix menu popup and can get to the main menu, you're good to continue to the next step
6. Close the game and install the Republic Commando Fix mod (link below). Double check the install instructions so it's in the right place.
7. Run the game from the CT.exe executable. Once you're at the main menu, go to your graphics settings and turn bump mapping back to Low, as Republic Commando Fix changes it on first run. You should now be able to set your native resolution as well.

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Done

Keep in mind the rtx.conf file is a WIP, and there's a couple important things I want to change to upload a new one. Scene capture by default is left handed and on the incorrect axis, so toggle those two settings On in the Remix menu before capturing‼️

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👉 Links to needed files + attachment below:

d3d8to9: https://github.com/crosire/d3d8to9/releases/tag/v1.12.0

Republic Commando Fix: https://github.com/SWRC-Modding/CT/releases/tag/SWRC_Fix_v2.10

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[storm marsh]

These are the instructions

Hope it helps, lemme know if it doesn't work. I recommend a fresh install of the game just in case, download shouldn't be too big

@jaunty relic could you kindly pin the above instructions? For easy future reference

[storm marsh]

I'm gonna combine both those messages into one real quick

[normal comet]

really glad to see you're putting time into making the game work properly with rtx remix:) keep it up! great work! 😁

[storm marsh]

Figuring it out as I go but it's been fun

[normal comet]

I think getting the game to work properly with rtx remix is ​​the most fun part! 😌

[storm marsh]

Probably the biggest issue at the moment is the culling, makes getting good captures tough. I saw the last update to Republic Commando Fix was only 3 weeks ago, might try to reach out and see if they might know anything about disabling it. Just imagine an anti-culling toggle built in!

[storm marsh]

Definitely. Just gonna ignore the times where I go

[normal comet]

that would be really cool

[normal comet]

🤣

[storm marsh]

I figure they know some engine level stuff better than anyone else

[storm marsh]

OH MY GOD I MIGHT'VE FOUND IT

THERE'S A COMMAND TO DISABLE HARDWARE OCCLUSION CULLING

This is the single greatest day of my life

I gotta test it as soon as I get access to my PC. I joined the SWRC modding discord and they have a wiki full of helpful stuff including engine level commands

[jaunty relic]

wow, that's exciting

wish it was that easy for all games, lol

[storm marsh]

Gotta see how I can make use of it first

More specifically if I can set these commands permanently, which might not be the case

And if I can't I need some way to execute a command on every level load

Man. How ironic that I gave Remix a shot because it wouldn't need the massive learning curve of per-game modding

And here I am learning modding of the game I'm using remix on

If I'm hearing correctly there also might be a command that loads the entire map at once

Which would be fucking INCREDIBLE for Remix captures

If it's stable enough for that use-case

Man this could be a breakthrough for Republic Commando with Remix

There's so many variables that might help with Remix compatibility

I don't wanna get too ahead of myself but if I can automate these commands in some way (and if they work), this game has the potential to become fully playable from start to finish with Remix

[neat summit]

Sweet, thanks!

[vapid lotus]

wait you didnt know that?

lol

[storm marsh]

New to the SWRC scene AND modding in general

this is all going in blind, teaching myself as I go

[vapid lotus]

ah i see

btw darman is the command to skip levels

[storm marsh]

yep, got the wiki

right now I'm trying out material editing

and this could be REALLY promising

[vapid lotus]

as in shaders or?

[storm marsh]

literal PBR materials

[vapid lotus]

ohh like that

[storm marsh]

this is a commonly used texture on Geonosis

[vapid lotus]

ik

sadly rc only supports normal and bumps

but bumps are the worst thing in existence

[storm marsh]

I did it in 3 parts. First was using an AI pass using a decompression model, then did a pass to increase the resolution 4x using another model. Then I threw it into instaMAT and this is the initial result for image-to-PBR generation. I can edit more before finalizing

[storm marsh]

and that's what I love so much about Remix

I have to worry about exactly 0 of the rendering limitations of the original engine

I can use real PBR, interacting with pathtraced lighting

[vapid lotus]

can you send me a texture to compare?

ours are upscaled too but its been 2 years ago since we upscaled so models may have improved a ton already

though upscaled and not partially generated

[vapid lotus]

i really like remix but i just hate that there isnt an option to disable path tracing and just run it with standard lighting in the runtime

[storm marsh]

first is the input (used snipping tool since DDS doesn't embed in discord), second is the decompression model output, third is the 4x res scale

[storm marsh]

unfortunately it's a limitation of the tech. The entire rendering engine is pathtraced, you can't turn it off or you turn off all of what remix does

[vapid lotus]

dont see a difference prob because of compression lol

[storm marsh]

have to open original

discord previews are compressed even if you click them

[vapid lotus]

ah

[storm marsh]

the "open in browser button" at the bottom when you click it

[vapid lotus]

it looks... average?

expected better tbh

[storm marsh]

it's got more definition than Nvidia's built in AI upscaler

I just needed a higher res base without compression artifacts to feed into the material software

holy shit

turned off AO, swapped tesselation with POM, increased displacement slightly

this shit looks properly 3D

the viewport on my end has a rotating lightsource

man this is insanely cool

[vapid lotus]

it looks really good if you do it correctly

[vapid lotus]

@storm marsh where were the bounces per ray located?

[storm marsh]

when you open the overlay with alt+x, click graphics options at the top. I'd recommend turning off always show advanced or whatever it's called too

so hitting alt+x goes to graphics settings first

[vapid lotus]

what tab

under pathtracing?

[storm marsh]

very very top

lemme see

[vapid lotus]

alr lemme check

this is what i have now

in the normal menu

[storm marsh]

oh perfect

[vapid lotus]

also noticed that under pathtracing>Integrator

[storm marsh]

set max bounce to 1 or 2

max not min

[vapid lotus]

disabling this improved performance a ton

[storm marsh]

lol

that could work to fulfill the "I wish I could turn it off" idea lol

the secondary bounces are what make the magic happen

which is why I recommend keeping that on and at least going with 1 max light bounce

but if you really are indifferent and just wanna mess around then by all means

[vapid lotus]

the magic being 2 fps

does make the game really dark though lol

[storm marsh]

is 1 bounce max really still unplayable?

[storm marsh]

yeah that would do it lol

[vapid lotus]

at 720p 75% not getting 60

[storm marsh]

without any bounces there's no GI

[vapid lotus]

but

could it be cpu?

5600x

[storm marsh]

unlikely

yeah def not

[vapid lotus]

nah gpu util is maxed

[storm marsh]

it's just pathtracing being pathtracing

[vapid lotus]

cpu at 80 ish

[storm marsh]

if it's still not awful I'd personally prefer taking the fps hit to get the global illumination

it basically doesn't work without it

visually

[vapid lotus]

i mean

its running at 30

[storm marsh]

then again I played through cyberpunk at 40-50fps first playthrough

[vapid lotus]

maybe

with bad frametimes

[storm marsh]

damn, I didn't know it was that rough

and since there's no FSR the res scale probably doesn't look very good

[vapid lotus]

with secondary my whole windows lags too

about 15 ish fps maybe

[storm marsh]

that said I'm running well below 70%. I'm using DLSS balanced which is 58% scale

but it's DLSS, so it still holds up well

at 1440p output

try 50% scale maybe? dunno what it looks like

[vapid lotus]

wasnt there a fsr3 plugin for remix?

50% runs alot better

doesnt look that great though

[storm marsh]

no it's what people wanna add though since remix is open source. Unfortunately FSR3's Vulkan implementation isn't out and won't be for months, so FSR2 is the next thing that's being looked at I believe

[storm marsh]

yeah that does look pretty rough

is it only 25% increments

[vapid lotus]

pretty sure fsr3 has vulkan but the frame gen doesnt? correct me if im wrong though

[vapid lotus]

where do i check?

[storm marsh]

usually people just refer to it as FSR2 when not talking frame gen, yeah that should work

[storm marsh]

same place you chose the 50% res

[vapid lotus]

both dev and user menu

[storm marsh]

oh cool, looks like in the dev menu you can set it manually

try .6 maybe?

FSR/DLSS quality mode is 67% for reference so it's not far below those

[vapid lotus]

it helps

but once again

at the cost of alot of perforamcne

[storm marsh]

Man

I wonder if the dev menu for pathtracing settings could also claw back perf. Haven't messed with it though

[vapid lotus]

theres a ton of options

maybe i can find something online

[storm marsh]

Maybe, but I think the basic options are enough to see it probably is what it is

AMD's first generation RT was pretty bad so it can only do so much

In fact it's missing a lot of hardware optimizations for RT in general. In other words it can do RT but it's doing it in the most basic way possible. 2nd and 3rd Gen AMD RT added different hardware accelerations for various aspects of RT that have huge benefits

[vapid lotus]

yeah rdna2 is pretty barebones in terms of rt

[storm marsh]

Don't know how much better performance you can get at this point. Unless those pathtracing dev settings can account for the exact thing I mentioned

[storm marsh]

Mhm. And given this is entirely RT with basically no rasterization, it's truly a worst case scenario :/

[vapid lotus]

but its playable

but it does look kinda rough, but may help if there will be an fsr plugin

[storm marsh]

Yeah FSR definitely looks better than the basic TAAU implementation. Glad Remix is open source so people can add it with enough time

No need to rely on Nvidia

[vapid lotus]

lol nvidia wont do shit

anyway to increase shadow brightness?

that may help

[storm marsh]

Hey I guess it could've been worse, no DLSS alternative at all would've been awful

[vapid lotus]

true

[storm marsh]

Without the secondary bounces? Your best bet is messing with exposure settings

Those secondary bounces help a lot with the spread of light

Oh shit I should also mention the reason performance scales so much with internal resolution is because the number of rays per pixel is fixed. Fewer pixels, fewer rays. So you're killing two birds with one stone for performance

[vapid lotus]

it runs with 2 bounces

but there are dots on the meshes

maybe the recalculating again

[vapid lotus]

when i turn*

[storm marsh]

I'd do 1 bounce and make sure this option is enabled

[storm marsh]

Yeah that would be the denoiser trying to work with so few rays

Increasing the denoiser quality would help but at a cost naturally

Remix accumulates rays over many frames to make it stable enough. Faster the framerate, the less likely you are to notice

As you can see, there's a ton of moving parts in a holistic solution to rendering like pathtracing

[vapid lotus]

a real ton lol

IF you want i can send you a hud for ultrawide

and helmet

to test

but dont share those

[storm marsh]

that would be great

[vapid lotus]

what res?

3440x1440?

[storm marsh]

yep!

[storm marsh]

the first PBR material I've ever made

I'm fkn proud of myself

was a pain in the ass but I figured it out

and I'm super happy with the result

I think I'm gonna go the route of some other modders in the discord and make a "demo" of sorts

basically stick to one area and make it the best it can be

then I can post it in #showcase

[storm marsh]

my battle with UI tagging begins again

[honest elm]

Might need to add back in some of that brown manually but looks pretty cool

[storm marsh]

it's hard to nail down exactly

[storm marsh]

my original long term idea was that I'd make the light from the sky a little more orange to fit the planet

that should cover the difference

and ofc I can always go back later and change the material

if needed

[storm marsh]

I'm having dramatically more technical issues than I was before

[safe osprey]

https://www.gildor.org/en/projects/umodel It looks like this could potentially help with exporting the game's textures, as well as plenty of other games made with the various incarnations of the Unreal Engine.

[safe osprey]

It does work, but the game has an unusual way of doing its bump/normal maps. Some textures do indeed use normal maps - mostly terrain and static props - but a lot of animated characters seem to use textures that have a bump map in one channel (usually red), a separate texture in another (seems to depend. Some use what appears to be possibly a specular map in the green channel, others use what appears to be a sort of "mask" texture), sometimes yet another in the blue channel (sometimes possible specular map if it is an actual normal map rather than a bump), and yet another in the alpha channel if there is one (likely specular?)

[storm marsh]

much appreciated! I'm using it to get a reference for what I should be avoiding

[storm marsh]

i believe setting bumpmapping to low disables it

the rest I'm not familiar with

this is the dedicated folder for bumpmapping

lots of specular

[safe osprey]

You might be able to use the normal maps, although the bump maps would probably have to be run through ChaiNNeR to generate a normal map from the red channel, and even then it would probably be best used as a placeholder.

[safe osprey]

Odd how they are labeled. You find more bump and normal maps in the other folders than in the dedicated bump map folder.

A lot of those other textures there are probably not really going to be used by Remix, and I would speculate were used depending on how big the specular spot was supposed on a given object.

[storm marsh]

maybe general purpose vs specific ones? and the stone doorway is the weird oversight exception maybe

[safe osprey]

That is likely the case.

[storm marsh]

I wonder if there's anything we can do with these values in the system.ini? Particularly the "MaxPixelShaderVersion" variable

there's likely a lot I haven't touched yet that might help a lot

[safe osprey]

It might be possible to set it to 0 and see if that would force fixed function fallbacks, although you'd also likely want to set "UseHardwareVS" to false.

[storm marsh]

what do TL and VS stand for in those?

[safe osprey]

Hardware Transform and Lighting in TL's case and Hardware Vertex Shaders in VS's.

[storm marsh]

hmm okay

there's also another save.ini in the \save\ directory

shares some of the same settings'

[storm marsh]

gonna make backups of these files and change them

[safe osprey]

Good thinking.

[storm marsh]

wait a sec

I think the one from gamedata\save is from Republic Commando Fix

I see references to it and the other values are representative of my in-game settings while the others are not

it might even be saving that HWcull console command?

that would be big if that's the case, I'll have to test

[storm marsh]

but first, I'll do this

[safe osprey]

That would be huge if so.

[storm marsh]

I'll add that there's some other culling going on too if it really has been disabled while I've been testing

because I noticed the walls behind me stopped disappearing in the VR room in the Kamino intro, it was the most apparent case of it I experienced

and in other areas it seemed to not have culling problems?

but when I turn in a certain direction from the start of mission 1 I get weird visual errors that appear to be culling related, and in the 2nd area of Kamino, as a kid on the computers with other students, when you look down the wall behind you seems to disappear as the room gets randomly brighter

but maybe it's not normal culling and there's something else going on

[storm marsh]

holy shit I've made some BIG progress with the rtx.conf file

restored a bunch of effects that were having issues

visor seems to fully work without breaking any of the pathtracing, the swirling rain water below the gunship, the wiper, the drops on the screen, rain particles

all of these had issues before in some capacity

hard to know how much can be attributed to the config file (a good amount at least) vs the system.ini edits. But that's why I have a backup baby. I'm gonna run these two before and after with the system.ini backup to see if the visuals are any different, when using the same rtx.conf file

it's getting real interesting

[storm marsh]

(it stopped working, time to give up for the day )

added a light, edited material values and added a unique PBR material made from scratch to show off reflections on the floor

by far the most fun I have with Remix is actually getting to mess with assets

seeing this material I worked on for a good while in-game is super fulfilling

the light culling out is an error on my end, not a real bug

[storm marsh]

I'm pretty confident this isn't the case unfortunately

[safe osprey]

That looks pretty damn good! The lighting in the room also seems pretty solid.

[spring bridge]

Looks like the geometry hashes are unstable no matter what settings you use.

Playing with shadermodel = 0 fixes lighting in some maps but introduces too many visual issues and lag (maybe Remix culling isn't working?)

Lots of effects and particles don't render correctly unless you tag them as UI which are then only affected by raster lighting.
Terrain baking doesn't seem to work correctly
Rendering the viewmodel with Remix lighting distorts your view when using the helmet HUD

I'm not sure if these issues are the same for other UE2 titles but Republic Commando is not looking good for modding with Remix

[storm marsh]

I've found that many of these effects work but selectively. With the right tags some will work in some instances, but tagging other things will break them entirely

I haven't tried the shadermodel=0 line specifically, only the ini edits. That's DXVK right?

Also with it fixing lighting in some maps, did you already have the lightmaps tagged? Or are the fixes you've seen separate to the lightmaps

[spring bridge]

shadermodel fixes lighting in some maps like Geonosis 2 because Remix's shader support isn't perfect. I don't recommend it though because it brings too many visual issues and that's the only good thing it does

Here's my cache and config, it has effects tagged as UI so they render correctly. I tried the config you sent before but it didn't seem to have tagged much like the UI, lightmaps and sky

I'm using SWRC fix 2.10 but that cache should work for the regular game exe if renamed to match

[storm marsh]

I definitely had a good amount of stuff tagged, maybe I have my timelines mixed up and sent one that was underbaked

A lot of my experimentation has involved tagging as little as possible as to not break the pathtracing

For example I've been able to have the view model pathtraced, but that causes other issues where the camera is disconnected from the view model and there's an extremely disorienting "wobbling"

[spring bridge]

Yeah, that's because of the helmet HUD. I'm not sure how to fix that

You can disable the "Helmet" option in the game settings but that's more of a workaround than a fix

[storm marsh]

well the remix experience is all about work arounds

I think people would be willing to turn off HUD if the rest of the game was playable with pathtracing

not ideal though ofc

[storm marsh]

talking to some of the guys in the RC modding discord

they think the hwcull command doesn't work

but they pointed me towards a way to achieve something similar-ish

basically since UE2 uses BSP, I can use the editor to remove the "antiportals" that trigger the culling of an area

so the entire level would be rendered at the same time

unsure how practical it would be for gameplay, if needed maybe I could have just a few areas ahead and a few behind

but for the purpose of getting captures? It'd be invaluable

[spring bridge]

You need stable geometry hashes first before doing captures

[storm marsh]

wdym? I haven't had any significant issues with captures

[spring bridge]

Apparently there might be a fix

Go in debug view and look at "geometry hashes"

They randomise every frame so replacing models in Remix won't be possible

[storm marsh]

haven't replaced models yet but have replaced textures and materials

do you have auto sky detect set to camera? when it's set to none there's MAJOR issues with most of the viewport rendering in many circumstances

[spring bridge]

The world mesh looks fine but anything that animates is too unstable

[storm marsh]

ah I get you

[jaunty relic]

i'd recommend making sure that replacement meshes work okay btw, before continuing the project. some games (especially shader heavy games) have issues with meshes not staying anchored to their proper locations

[storm marsh]

I can try a model swap

I have some captures, just never done one before

don't even have a mesh to use as a test but I can probably find one

[jaunty relic]

here's a cube

[neat summit]

Woah, cube

[storm marsh]

worked just fine it seems

let me save and open in game

[jaunty relic]

if it has the issue i mentioned, the cube will follow the camera or player around in-game

[storm marsh]

noted, will report back shortly

I come bearing good news

[jaunty relic]

great!

[storm marsh]

also surprisingly 0 culling related issues during that recording

I would've expected at least one

I lied

there's some but it's INCREDIBLY subtle

which is good

it looks like one minor light source stops being active

[jaunty relic]

if you use the debugoptimized builds of Remix, you can use freecam to see what it's doing

[neat summit]

Wait, is the cube just the default Blender cube?

[jaunty relic]

ya

[neat summit]

It's just a cube but I've seen this cube too many times now.

[timber kestrel]

Forbidden Blender cube destruction technique: send it off to an active warzone in Geonosis

[jaunty relic]

https://github.com/Kim2091/RTX-Remix-Downloader/releases/tag/0.1.3
it has a lot of false positives on virustotal unfortunately, but i promise it's safe

[neat summit]

Some of the latest builds of DXVK also has positives on Virus Total, but by stuff like BitDefender Theta, which is machine learning based and therefore certainly likely to have false positives.

[storm marsh]

throw it with the game files and run it?

[jaunty relic]

no. it makes a remix folder when you run it, and puts the latest remix files in there. you then copy those to your game folder

you'd want to select debugoptimized when running the program

[storm marsh]

ah gotcha

wait but doesnt remix have a freecam built in?

[jaunty relic]

this is for the runtime, not the toolkit. the part that hooks into the game. the release version of it doesn't have a freecam afaik

[storm marsh]

I was able to get it but it's subject to the same culling aspects

[jaunty relic]

yeah, all i was saying is that you can use that to see exactly how it's culling things 🙂

it can be pretty helpful when troubleshooting in general

[storm marsh]

I'll give it a shot then!

[jaunty relic]

you can also toggle path tracing entirely with this, to see how the original game looks. great for trying to mimick the original art style (and for troubleshooting)

[neat summit]

The version included in the toolkit usually is just the release and no debug version?

[jaunty relic]

i believe so. i don't use the version in the toolkit though, i always do a separate game install. the toolkit version has major limitations (like not even being able to save your settings)

[storm marsh]

Okay well it boots but once I turn on raytracing under general I get about 1 frame per century

It's unusable

Let me tinker a bit to see

[jaunty relic]

that doesn't make any sense

did you select debug instead of debugoptimized?

[storm marsh]

I made sure to choose debugoptimized

confirmed

[jaunty relic]

i have no idea how that'd be happening

were you using a direct 0.4.0 install before, or were you just running it through the toolkit?

[storm marsh]

gonna do a clean install of the game, it's not very big

direct install^

[jaunty relic]

just make sure you don't lose your progress 😦

if you don't care about these features anyway, don't worry about doing this

[storm marsh]

well I imagine it could be helpful

at the very least so I can see instead of guess

I'll back up important stuff

[jaunty relic]

entire rtx-remix folder

but yeah, it is really helpful imo

[storm marsh]

sorry, taking a while because I'm seeing effects working in pathtracing that weren't at all before so I'm experimenting a bit

[storm marsh]

also this was caused by frame generation being on by default

even in the debugoptimized build

[jaunty relic]

ah, interesting

[jaunty relic]

that could be due to some fixes implemented in the latest builds vs 0.4.0

generally we always use the latest builds, but 0.4.0 broke the downloader for a while. it's fixed now (but again, tons of false positives that we're trying to resolve)

[storm marsh]

I was using the latest one, at least as of a day or two ago

but I started with a fresh rtx.conf since I'm more familiar with what each texture does now

and I'm being extremely selective with what I mark vs leave alone

and the results so far have been shockingly good?

I didn't set remix to ignore original lights, turns out when you shoot there was always a light attached to the end of the gun (maybe I knew but didn't remember)

so you get what are essentially muzzle flash shadows

[jaunty relic]

yeah, a lot of the time you don't need to mark textures. it'll often lead to more issues

i'm glad it's working better now 😛

[storm marsh]

I was going off of another person's conf. I guess they may have tagged stuff that wasn't necessary so I just ignored it

it happens though, it probably had a bandaid fix on their end when in practice it was interacting poorly with something else

I'm glad I didn't throw my rtx.conf back in when trying this

[neat summit]

Oh you mean directly starting the game from within the toolkit? I was referring to the runtime that comes along with it, can just drag and drop that.

[jaunty relic]

ah, i've never done that. generally i would recommend using the latest builds though

[neat summit]

Is there an eta or milestone as when one of the builds becomes a full new release?

[storm marsh]

I recorded some gameplay of the improved rtx.conf, gonna share in a minute

[neat summit]

Would you mind sharing the contents of the RTX conf? I'm always a little iffy on direct downloads, not saying I'd believe you'd make yours a virus, but you get the idea, especially when it's basically a glorified txt file.

[storm marsh]

yeah I can do that once I finish getting this video out

I'll upload the new file to the pinned instructions and I'll share all the text

[neat summit]

Thanks!

[storm marsh]

might take some time because I'd rather remake it in a fresh conf using a non-debug build

just to be safe that it'll work for everyone

shouldn't be hard just stuff I gotta do first

[jaunty relic]

you mean like 0.4.0? not really

[storm marsh]

if it's a longer video (this one is 3min) is it preferable to still upload it in discord or should I use youtube unlisted to share it?

[jaunty relic]

doesn't matter really. discord won't re-compress it

[storm marsh]

I compressed the vid so it should be okay

[jaunty relic]

this server has a 100 MB upload limit btw

[storm marsh]

oop

[storm marsh]

that's for all users, nitro has the full amount >:D

anyways not a single soul can watch this video and not think republic commando is viable with remix

this is the best conf setup I've gotten so far. So many effects are still working

it never stops pathtracing from some random shader breaking it or something

it works the whole way through !

I don't wanna jump the gun but if I went through all levels to mark what I needed I believe this game oculd be considered fully playable from start to finish

[neat summit]

Yeah. Right now for toolkit users that are unaware. They would remain on 0.4.0 until well a updated one is pushed.

[storm marsh]

@jaunty relic hey kim, is it possible to change the thumbnail for this thread? I'm sure a lot of people have skipped it just due to how the earliest screenshots look

if so I can take a new one

[storm marsh]

thanks to @vapid lotus I was able to try out part of an in-progress HUD mod. It's for ultrawide but I had many issues at first

originally the helmet wasn't scaling properly AND it was behind my gun model for some reason

marking it as UI DID work, but came with many visual issues I've been having with the helmet

and in the front bottom corners there was a weird ghosting void

then I realized I'm very much tunnelvisioning on the texture tagging lol

enabling viewmodel in remix + perspective correction DID WORK ‼️

well only so it was actualy ultrawide as intended

but the depth was still busted since it was still behind the gun model

then I found out about the viewmodel scale

parameter that's used to help with clipping on the viewmodel. gave it a shot and VIOLA

unfortunately there's a weird light source attached to the helpet or something but I'll fix that later

I guessed that the "scale" naming was literal, and that they were changing the size of the model and doing some trickery to keep it looking right

and I was spot on, so here's a goofy video of it in action :)

honestly it's really impressive that it works as well as it does given what's happening behind the curtain

though you could argue that for 99% of remix

[jaunty relic]

you'll have to ask @jolly rover to edit the first message in the thread with a link to whatever image you want

[storm marsh]

well I went up here and

looks like I'm out of luck :(

[jolly rover]

Yeah I'm trying, but I don't think I can?

[storm marsh]

because the original message is gone i think it's not possible

[jolly rover]

Oh damn

[storm marsh]

damn shame, I wanted to use this as the thumbnail

[jaunty relic]

ah yeah, it's dead

no hope

[storm marsh]

tbf custom thread thumbnails should probably be a thing

unlucky

[jaunty relic]

sadly not

Discord is very much lacking in their forum features

it'd be nice to have a whole lot of things 😦

for example: i've had to pin messages manually for this entire channel because Discord doesn't have a separate permission for it

[jolly rover]

Plus, I'm trying to edit the next message down to have a different image but it's not working

So I don't think its entirely possible

[jaunty relic]

@storm marsh you can make a new one if you want, and this one can just be archived

[jolly rover]

That would be ideal, since I'm not actually working on this game with remix myself

Not anymore anyway

There should be a feature to move thread ownership to somebody else

[storm marsh]

yeah I think so too

[storm marsh]

if it's archived is it possible to link to it? as a read only thread

or is it all lost forever

[jaunty relic]

yeah

i'd rename the thread to [OLD] and leave a link to the new one as the final message, then lock it

[storm marsh]

that would be great, if you wouldn't mind

[jaunty relic]

go on ahead and make the new one, then i'll set this one up 🙂

[storm marsh]

[jaunty relic]

[OLD] Star Wars Republic Commando

[jolly rover]