Garry's Mod

[loud mural]

Ayyyyy great work!

How'd ya end up fixing it?

[subtle bison]

skip doing PVS checks in RT camera passes

[loud mural]

Ahhhh

Did that fix the RT view itself as well?

It looks like it's not raster anymore?

[subtle bison]

hmm wdym

[loud mural]

Like the rendertarget was raster before

It looks like it changed

But idk if it's rtxed now

or if it's still stuck in raster mode

[subtle bison]

oh, that is a remix setting, its off by default because it causes those playermodel showing in first person issues

[loud mural]

Yeah ik I thought maybe for whatever reason your PVS stuff may have fixed that

[subtle bison]

nah i think thats something more fundamental with remix/the engine

[loud mural]

Yeah I assumed as much

It just thought it looked different in the video from what I'm used to seeing

So now that I'm done

I was thinking maybe we should focus on one system at a time

[subtle bison]

btw it seems like it breaks the func_monitor in some places but not all? doesnt really make any sense

[subtle bison]

ah yeah thats a good idea

[loud mural]

Like autocategorization sounds like maybe an easier system to start off with

Since it's just finding strings that make sense

Which is why I named them all the same depending on what system was bugging out

You think these issues are good for high prio for now?

Even though they technically aren't high prio

Just so your working on the same system instead of switching scope every moment?

[subtle bison]

yeah that's good with me, only issue i've ran into consistently with autocategorization is it can run into hash collisions, so even if it tags a source material correctly, the d3d9 device can spit out the same texture hash for another material and screw up the whole thing

[loud mural]

Ahhh shit

[subtle bison]

good news is that 95% of the time, the 1st texture to show up with the hash is the correct one, so i have added guards

[loud mural]

Alright

[subtle bison]

ill start adding a proper label for those issues and work on them

[loud mural]

Actually hazardous_ai may have that hash collision issue

If you noclip to the outdoor area you can see an emissive metal material all over the place

[subtle bison]

hmmm ill check

[loud mural]

It's like this green metal material

But Eya is really weird with how she sorts and organizes her models and textures so I wouldn't be surprised if her .vmts are the same

[subtle bison]

hmm i dont see anything emissive

also fixed the RT cameras but rip FPS anytime they're active

[loud mural]

Thaaaat's weirrrd

It only happens when mat_forcedynamic is set to 1

They turn emissive when I do that and stay emissive even if I set it back to 0

But I gotta go for now, my brother wants to play MGS: Delta with me

So I'll make a GH issue later

Cya and best of luck to you

[subtle bison]

@loud mural @keen rivet

we now have functional func_reflective_glass

[keen rivet]

Huge

[subtle bison]

works for gm_boreas as reported in this issue
https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/issues/147

should uhh note this is perf mode only rn

just because it was stupid easy to add to mwr

but i think i can make this agnostic

RR makes mirrors a smeary mess 🙁

[modern quest]

hewwo gmod channel

what r u guys up to

[subtle bison]

hai, we now have working mirrors for maps that use the func_reflective_glass entity

[modern quest]

oooo awesome work 💖 ✨

[steel lark]

why even have non-perf mode if perf no longer has any culling issues (as far as i know)

oh wait decals don't work yet? i mean that's a very small detail

[subtle bison]

they do

i fixed it a while back

[steel lark]

oh well

[subtle bison]

or rather forced the engine to render them all of the time

oops wrong reply

talking about decals

[steel lark]

i got it lol

[subtle bison]

anyways, perf isnt perfect even if it technically does more than engine rendering

[steel lark]

what is missing?

[subtle bison]

nothing really, its just have a few visual bugs and is stupidly heavy on the lua garbage collector

[steel lark]

lmao

[subtle bison]

which causes frametime spikes (but tbh a lot of other addons do that too so idk if anyone cares except me)

[steel lark]

i honestly never noticed?

ig i'm used to using a bunch of addons

[subtle bison]

it used to be pretty bad pre-perf, when it was the main render method for gmod rtx x64 for a while

anyways, i dont think it's something i can really fix at this point, the only loop running per frame is rendering the geometry and PVS calculations for static props, but you still get the spikes with PVS culling off, so its just rendering at that point

[steel lark]

it's just because i was thinking it's gotta be hard to maintaing two modes of rendering + two branches of gmod itself

maintaing

[subtle bison]

its just the one branch now, but no its actually not too bad

perf is more durable against updates

if culling patches gets fucked, perf still works

cant say the same for engine

[steel lark]

is 32bits not supported anymore?

[subtle bison]

it works but all of the good stuff isnt there

[steel lark]

oh i see

[subtle bison]

no reason to use 32-bit tbh because the bridge is so heavy and the limited ram allocation for the game itself

glad i went for x64 as soon as i could

[steel lark]

🔥

are you working on the clouds still?

they really are a going to be a game changer

[subtle bison]

from time to time, im a little burned out working on them lol

btw the sky editor is in nightly, its not finished tho

can be found here

you'll have to manually switch to the atmos sky and turn off the distant light

[steel lark]

oh shit

fricken screenshot tool not working

but

i'm having vulkan errors on gmod rtx

[subtle bison]

check your gpu drivers?

[steel lark]

hmmm

[subtle bison]

are they like happening randomly or just starting the game

nvidia has pushed some bad drivers recently iirc

[steel lark]

damn

[subtle bison]

im on 595.79

[steel lark]

i think i'm on 595.58

[subtle bison]

hmm try updating

[steel lark]

wait i think i updated my drivers but didn't restart

working well

[steel lark]

slowly rotating starfall chip (the rotational movement of the planet)

kinda zoned out there at the end

i'm so tired

good night rtx remix server

[modern quest]

https://tenor.com/view/h2di-puppy-sleeping-going-to-bed-dog-going-to-bed-gif-11495956736830452104

[loud mural]

Hell yeah

Nice work!

You said perf mode is possible in mutiplayer via injection right?

Also #28 has been fixed for a while now

[runic gale]

@keen rivet can you just make you launcher not to add new files like my data or addons folder? to update the game files.

[keen rivet]

Huh? Not sure i understand

[runic gale]

I need to update my rtx gmod

But it's basically copying everything from my install gmod with addons and data files. (Wiremod E2's codes and Adv Dupes files)

but really on updated files.

smh

The Updater needs to ignore the entire data and addons folder.

and downloadlist folder too

yeah. but how about not adding as new file.

or maybe i didn't update launcher

nup. still detecting data folder

i'ma proceed but will delete after

[keen rivet]

Oh uhh I didn't write the new updater so I don't actually know anything about it lol

[keen rivet]

Cache and download list should be symlinked I think

Data isn't because it's so specific

Data is a weird case

[runic gale]

yea

[onyx ridge]

ok bro

[subtle bison]

I'll look into it

[runic gale]

has there's been better upscalling textures software/program since i've gone in action?

[subtle bison]

would probably ask in #general-remix , most people here are using topbr since its reusing the source engine texture maps, no upscaling

@loud mural 🙂

so far no issues

[winter radish]

“No upscaling”

[subtle bison]

no ai upscaling brah

the PBR-ification is already enough

[lean hatch]

[winter radish]

You can do upscaling without AI

[subtle bison]

guh

its all neural networks bro

[lean hatch]

You can in fact upscale without ai

If you redraw it

[winter radish]

There’s methods like nearest neighbor, Bilinear, Bicubic, etc

[subtle bison]

bruh half of these wouldnt look any different from the original

and some are used for downscaling

the only upscaling with meaningful results are unfortunately ML-based ones, and im not allowing that in any part of our base mod

[winter radish]

well because ML upscaling isn't just upscaling, it's using generation

[subtle bison]

yes because it has to generate new detail

[winter radish]

horrible

[subtle bison]

btw i cant fix the rest of these autocategorization issues until i can stop hash collisions, portal has it the worst, all of the puzzle lights conflict with like dirt decals so they're just glowing

it thinks they all have the same hash meanwhile remix clearly shows different ones per material so this will be fun to fix

[onyx ridge]

my 4050:

[winter radish]

just turn on MFG x6, ez

the way Jenson intended

[loud mural]

Ahhhh shit

Gotcha

[loud mural]

Looks great though

[compact blaze]

omfg why is ur 4050 FOURRRRRR GIGABYTES OF VRAM

[winter radish]

It’s not, iirc Remix only detects allocated?

[subtle bison]

the question is what is using the other vram

[onyx ridge]

windows probably idk

i am impressed at how i still manage to get 15fps when remix is trying to use more memory than my gpu actually has in the first place

[winter radish]

OS

[subtle bison]

i assume its a laptop?

[onyx ridge]

yeap

[subtle bison]

assuming it doesnt have a mux switch, force everything else to use the iGPU

by default its usually that way

[winter radish]

Imagine having an iGPU

[subtle bison]

guh

[keen rivet]

theres literally no point to that then

texture filtering is already applied

[onyx ridge]

seamless portals support when

[subtle bison]

idk

real life

[smoky otter]

You have pngs glued to your windows?!

[subtle bison]

yeah gotta fool the lookers

[willow fog]

gmod irl

[steel lark]

holy facken shit

@subtle bison

most messed up rtx remix bug ever

don't EVER go to 0 on transmittance color slider

[onyx ridge]

my poor 4050 but it's still awesome i can get graphics like this at all

[keen rivet]

Guys i need a potential thumbnail for new gmod rtx tutorial

[onyx ridge]

would this work as a thumbnail

[steel lark]

"hold up wait... I JUST HIT THE JACKPOT!!!"

[keen rivet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_iFZTsKFHo

[steel lark]

https://tenor.com/view/i-just-hit-the-jackpot-jackpot-i-just-hit-i-just-i-gif-6623346210678000489

[keen rivet]

OK video going live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_iFZTsKFHo

thumbnail doesnt show as updated damn

just settled on reusing the old favourite

damn I incorrectly assumed these were ticked by default

[onyx ridge]

5g horse

[steel lark]

using grigori's back as a carnival mirror

i noticed the glass replacement from base_mod doesn't work because the hashes are not the same anymore

when i replaced them manually it worked

[subtle bison]

guh it works fine for me?

maybe you have a workshop addon replacing it?

[steel lark]

but when i switched maps the hashes broke again

it was working fine before i updated gmod

actually i updated everything

[steel lark]

the material? it's just phoenix_storms/glass

[subtle bison]

hmm maybe im thinking of a different one

[keen rivet]

CR did you see tutorial?

[subtle bison]

no

[steel lark]

oh the hashes broke even without leaving the server

[steel lark]

these glass photos i just used the hash was: D889942578572798

now it's: D881B619521BC504

cr please add: float inputs:transmittance_measurement_distance = 65504
to glass to make it not darken based on distance (perfect glass)

@keen rivet the linux launcher on the latest version doesn't have executable permission by default

[keen rivet]

@subtle bison 🙊

[subtle bison]

wot

[keen rivet]

.

forgot to chmod

[steel lark]

lol it happens

[subtle bison]

bruh thats intentional

[keen rivet]

oh

[steel lark]

why?

[subtle bison]

cuz other projects with linux binaries do the same

[keen rivet]

2nd result......

[subtle bison]

can u put the logo in the middle 🥀

would make it look more pro

[keen rivet]

then it covers up the pretty image.

[keen rivet]

its not a logo that works centred anyways

since its sorta left logo with righthand text

[keen rivet]

Just like all my other tutorial videos its single take and no script and minimal editing lol

[modern quest]

i like that positioning better

[steel lark]

@keen rivet when will you rewrite gwater to work in rtx?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/743884733913759764/980832359215669268/reset.gif

[keen rivet]

[raw edge]

🤔

[subtle bison]

needs cef fix

https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed

read linux section

[raw edge]

I see, guess I did't read the instruction properly sorry

[loud mural]

I realized by definition all textures using the UnlitGeneric should be emissive

For example the toolgun screen

None of these things have $emissive but they are supposed to be since they aren't being affected by lighting

In other words I don't think we need the dev/dev_scanline exception on all UnlitGeneric mats

They should all be emissive by default

And we'll just see how that turns out imo

Very pretty though CR :P

That big boi is a scanline friend

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet 2:40, requires a map load to enable

[keen rivet]

it kicked in without mapload for me

in the tutorial

[subtle bison]

guh

[keen rivet]

you can see i spawn combine helicopter bomb

[subtle bison]

it explicitly wont run unless the map is reloaded

i made it that way

ok nvm

i know i did at some point but yeah it works without reloading it i just tested it lmao

mb

[keen rivet]

lol

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[subtle bison]

ill need to remove the help text for that

[loud mural]

What an odd texture

Now it's wining as a decal texture

So it can't be anything

If it's particle or decal it cries

[subtle bison]

weird, it stopped tagging itself for me with some of the hash collision changes i made, but it technically would be a decal texture since its world geo, so its not wrong

[loud mural]

Guess that's a Remix issue then

[subtle bison]

ye there is only so much we can do with VMT heuristics, i would rather change how decals render in remix

would make everything better

[loud mural]

Yeah that's fair

I agree, that's a way better fix

[subtle bison]

ill start working on that whenever i rebase against upstream

[loud mural]

Something weird happened

UnlitGenerics are getting tagged as emissive but they aren't emitting anything

And they are black in the Remix texture viewer

[subtle bison]

prob because they use $selfillum but the vtf has no alpha mask

[loud mural]

I tried Force Albedo

That didn't do anything

This used to work

Without Force Albedo iirc

[subtle bison]

does it glow in raster?

[loud mural]

Huh

It's literally black in raster

[subtle bison]

wonder if its the same issue as the black building in construct

[loud mural]

I didn't have this issue earlier

Actually it seems like UnlitGeneric does need Force Albedo Emission on since yeah your right they don't have an alpha mask

Because they flat out don't function

(I'm looking at a different texture btw)

[subtle bison]

im trying to remember what materials use unlitgeneric that arent fullbright

[loud mural]

Same

I can only think of one

But it's supposed to be fullbright lol

The lightstrips under the portal testchambers

and/or above them

This is raster

You can see that obviously was supposed to be emissive

[subtle bison]

well according to valve wiki its either fullbright or pitch black, so forced albedo here we come

[loud mural]

Yup

[loud mural]

Like it literally emits light in the light.rad file for vrad

It's just the .vmt doesn't for some reason

Like this looks wayyyy better

Smooth

I really hope one day we get a proper remaster of Portal with RTX

[subtle bison]

topbr? /s

[loud mural]

loool

That gets ya most of the way there

[subtle bison]

would technically be as faithful as it gets other than the usual topbr weirdness

[loud mural]

Yeah I mean like a HL2 RTX style remaster

Straying from the original vision only slightly in areas it makes sense for the most part imo

[subtle bison]

ah yeah

[loud mural]

Instead of Portal RTX which is just Portal 2 nonsense slapped everywhere

I hate the fact that there are like five sets of different wall textures and they all get crammed into one in Portal RTX

[loud mural]

I meant UnlitTwoTexture btw

But they should both have full emission (albedo) just to be clear

Since they are by definition unlit

[subtle bison]

yea

[loud mural]

The mirror texture surface prop should probably be changed to glass

[subtle bison]

wdym

[loud mural]

Like when I hit it it sounds like concrete instead of glass

[subtle bison]

oh

yeah should be simple enough

🤤

got the forced albedo working for unlit but you can see random stain decals are also emissive due to what i said earlier

[loud mural]

Ohhhh

Some decals use UnlitGeneric?

[subtle bison]

no

[loud mural]

Oh the hash collisions..

[subtle bison]

for some reason the d3d9 texture tracker (and by extension autocategorization) is attaching a single hash to multiple materials, despite remix obviously only having 1 tied to a single material at any time

[lean hatch]

[loud mural]

Weird

[lean hatch]

What are yall cookin

[loud mural]

Also

[loud mural]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2893450274

G e t

Or else

[subtle bison]

fixing source emissives

[subtle bison]

lmao true, it does look cool in the 1st screenshot tho lol

[lean hatch]

Js make it to where all emissives are set to 30000, if nobody can see anything they cant find issues

[subtle bison]

ok

[lean hatch]

Wow

That does not happen in my game

[subtle bison]

trust it does, its just more common in portal maps for some reason

its been an issue for a few months

[lean hatch]

I meant

[loud mural]

Eh that just means that just means hash collisions needs to be fixed, UnlitGeneric being emissive is intended behavior at the end of the day

[lean hatch]

When I make things emissive in wolfenstein everything turns into my mom's goulash

[subtle bison]

i wish fixing it was easy

[lean hatch]

And set emissives to 30000

[loud mural]

Oh yeah no it doesn't sound easy, wasn't implying it was

[subtle bison]

no i didnt get that at all, im just complaining about it

[loud mural]

Ahhh gotcha

Yeah all these dark screens here are either UnlitGeneric or UnlitTwoTexture. These shaders are definitely for sure supposed to be emissive

[subtle bison]

wonder why only a few of them are emissive

[loud mural]

The ones that aren't emissive don't have the flag set

But in raster they are emissive

[subtle bison]

ah

[compact blaze]

What dlss settings r u using?

[onyx ridge]

i think quality?

[compact blaze]

Output res?

[onyx ridge]

i would so love to be able to use native for screenshots but the performance impact between quality and native is immense

it atomises my laptop

[onyx ridge]

1080p

[compact blaze]

ooooooooooof im so sorry

[onyx ridge]

i love using a low end laptop gpu

i actually came into possession of a 3050 desktop the other day

i am Not using it sorry i love raytracing but i'm not downgrading my performance in everything else for it

[onyx ridge]

pretty cool seeing how much materials have improved

i have noticed for whatever reason insecurity in particular is like

extremely strict on texture budget

[subtle bison]

yay 1 more decal renders

[onyx ridge]

the ground

[compact blaze]

hl1 looks insane

[onyx ridge]

i kinda wish there was a tool to modify the existing api lights on a map

like, individually

with wire support

[subtle bison]

its planned

[lean hatch]

Hey cr did you know

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-meme-mods-gif-14385308006689816010

[subtle bison]

did i know

[onyx ridge]

it will be AWESOME adding light switches to maps

[livid rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress-2-tf2-electron-programming-gif-16074911780421212217

[onyx ridge]

hmn

how come render targets aren't raytraced anymore?

also wiremod lights don't seem to work

[smoky otter]

https://tenor.com/view/temple-os-terry-davis-ai-gif-8918564695660364505

[subtle bison]

causes a bunch of rendering bugs so its off by default

[subtle bison]

make github issue 🙂

[onyx ridge]

[onyx ridge]

why does gm_black cause me to start having lack of memory issues despite it using the least vram out of any of my maps

(it does the thing where higher dlss resolutions cause the game to render as a tiny glowing red square and slightly lower than that has ridiculous stutters)

i can get 200 fps at ultra performance though!!!

is it being triggered by something gmod side???

it's completely consistent with the black editions but doesn't happen with any other maps

[onyx ridge]

it happens with brutalist heaven too???

like it's certainly more complicated than black but

also i may be stupid but is the sky editor supposed to like

do something

who wrote this shit!!!!!

[subtle bison]

what am i even looking at

[subtle bison]

it does, you have you manually switch over to the atmos sky in the runtime menu for rn, its not finished (hence why its only in nightly :P)

[onyx ridge]

the results of changing dlss presets while heavily out of vram budget or loading black i guess

[steel lark]

what gpu do you have?

never had any vram issues lmao

https://tenor.com/view/lowcortisollevel-tayguan-tayanhguan-gif-18425416686466898059

rtx 3060 12gb low cortisol gpu

[onyx ridge]

i am using a LAPTOP 4050 with 6GB

[subtle bison]

once again, did you force everything else on the laptop to use the iGPU?

i have a laptop with a nvidia dgpu without a mux, and even then i can still get the full 4096MB of VRAM because nothing else is using it

[steel lark]

https://tenor.com/view/i-just-hit-the-jackpot-jackpot-i-just-hit-i-just-i-gif-6623346210678000489

[onyx ridge]

yeah

having the full 6gb available isn't helpful when the game is trying to use 7

[steel lark]

@subtle bison can you make breakable glass optional in the launcher?

it's causing issues for me on some maps

[subtle bison]

what issues?

[subtle bison]

better than the 4 you have 😛

[steel lark]

hoping they don't fix this bug

it's so fun

[subtle bison]

what the hell

and how

[steel lark]

i sent another video showing how

[steel lark]

.

[lean hatch]

Hakari

[steel lark]

?

[lean hatch]

https://youtu.be/l62-NJ2ZmAw?si=d_8Pranj8LqT0Bcu

[onyx ridge]

i'm impressed at how well it can sample like

small really emissive textures

[compact blaze]

FNAFFFF

holy that image is actually sick

i love it

[keen rivet]

You should have dynamic sky turn on for gmod maps that use the shader sky

it would make sense

[compact blaze]

how does it look in motion

also r u using nrc?

[onyx ridge]

fine but like

if i get some specific distance away then it gets rid of the light it's emitting and starts building it up again

[compact blaze]

do you think its an NRC issue?

[onyx ridge]

maybe?? iunno

it's really stable in motion otherwise

[compact blaze]

i hope there’s more work done to try get clearer emissives in path tracing, cause their main issue rn is how noisy they are compared to regular lights

[onyx ridge]

i can't wait until there's a more finished volt fork

[onyx ridge]

has anyone checked if gmodpatchtool works and if it helps in any way

i think on windows it primarily messes with chromium, but on linux it does other things too

[dusk wagon]

why is my rtx gmod crashingggg i just installed it

[onyx ridge]

okay so there is a hard limit

[onyx ridge]

this might be the worst crashlog i have ever seen

😭

[dusk wagon]

basically

nothing in it

idk where to find the actual crash logs

[subtle bison]

ye it's recommend for Linux users, I never had issues with it

[subtle bison]

both logs don't indicate any crashing. are you using topbr or any other remix mods by any chance

ok well nvm the first gmod one shows a game crash

i assums you've ran the game without addons?

[dusk wagon]

no, i ran it with addons

[dusk wagon]

not really

[winter radish]

@subtle bison you can mount Black Mesa in Gmod now?

[steel lark]

cef straight up doesn't work without it on gmod rtx

on linux that is

[compact blaze]

is this vibe coded?

[onyx ridge]

[subtle bison]

pretty sure it's not, it's been around for years longer than AI

[winter radish]

My brain is

[dusk wagon]

for some reason, when im off gmod rtx, in the background it fixes itself

i went to go launch it again and bam

nothing was wrong

[loud mural]

You've always been able to through mount.cfg

Garry's Mod is getting official support for it though in the next update

[winter radish]

from my understanding, x64 branch already got the update

[loud mural]

Yeah x64 is pretty close to bleeding edge

dev is bleeding edge apparently

[keen rivet]

https://github.com/RaphaelIT7/VPhysics-Jolt

[sonic apex]

find it interesting that one of the main people who worked on that did most of the dx9 stuff for dxvk

small world

[keen rivet]

the person i think you're talking about is also a contract worker for valve on tf2 and such

[sonic apex]

something along those lines yeah

[brittle token]

nice

[subtle bison]

hi

[brittle token]

heloo

[onyx ridge]

still no raycast vehicles or breakable constraints

[ionic cipher]

glowing dust

[compact blaze]

what do they do?

[onyx ridge]

raycast vehicles are like, the airboat apparently and quite a few car addons

[livid rapids]

well

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3694035510&searchtext=

I knew this dude liked bo3 but holy shit

[subtle bison]

this will probably kill gmod rtx lmao

but hey if it has lights it might look good (ik there is no lightmaps)

[livid rapids]

yeah there's interior lightss

42 fps when looking at the whole map 🔥 and it has pretty aggressive model fadein/out

yeah this is gonna explode on rtx

[livid rapids]

@subtle bison

non perf

also no autopbr my vram bruh

[subtle bison]

how is perf mode

[livid rapids]

I'm gonna try now

um

perf mode just gave up

the UI just dissapeared

No props showed up

[subtle bison]

guh

[onyx ridge]

If you're are wondering why the map has no lightmaps, that is because it is literally made of thousands of collisionless props stacked on top of each other

nightmare

[faint sapphire]

Is there a standalone version of "ToPBR" anywhere? There's a team making a tool to convert Source 1 assets to Source 2 and I think this is the best option for converting textures to PBR with all the Source specific conversions

I'm looking at the addon lua code but it doesn't look like it could easily be made standalone

[subtle bison]

it could technically be made standalone since it's just churning out dds files to a specific directory, but I don't think we have plans to do that. What is this other tool?

[faint sapphire]

Converts S1 assets to S2

[subtle bison]

To also clarify on your question, we're hooking engine functions to capture drawn materials in realtime and then reading the VTF files from said material from the engine filesystem so in theory you could make it work without Remix, but as its own tool im not sure

[faint sapphire]

It doesn't handle materials correctly so I recommended they try use ToPBR

[subtle bison]

tbh ours isnt that accurate either 😛

[faint sapphire]

It's the best I've seen and it handles Source PBR, phong, etc

Current implementation in this tool is horribly wrong but I know people will want to use it

[compact blaze]

maybe u can try look at blender’s source porting addon and see how it handles source materials

cause the addon can make blender fully display’s sources textures and materials accurately

[stark ether]

What exactly are legacy emissive? Textures with the emissive in the alpha channel or something?

[loud mural]

Yes, and/or UnlitGeneric eventually

[subtle bison]

yep

[stark ether]

You happen to have an example dds lying around?

[keen rivet]

Our can detect when pbr assets are embedded in the files though, and reconstruct them

so it can be PRETTY DARN accurate

otherwise its actually not accurate but decent looking for 70 maybe 80% of cases

it turned out better than i thought

i thought only normal maps would be useful

[onyx ridge]

is there anything needed for exopbr materials to work

they don't seem to get converted for me

[keen rivet]

i attempted that but i dont think I ever got it working

can you provide me with some test assets? I think that was something I couldnt find

lol

[onyx ridge]

uhmh well there's the hl2 rtx hev hands, there's the exopbr example pack

[keen rivet]

looking into it

i think the light shape of the sun with api lights on is wrong huh

looks like a circle outline instead of a filled circle

api light off

[compact blaze]

mmm shadow

Idk what im looking at

[keen rivet]

weird edges

they look like this

but they should be more like

this

[subtle bison]

guh its the same distant light

[keen rivet]

Ohh the original game lights are still active i see

[subtle bison]

might be a regression with the updated runtime

[keen rivet]

ok damn api lights still inaccurate as hell

[subtle bison]

bruh what

[keen rivet]

native left, api right

[subtle bison]

ok but how does it look compared to raster with auto exposure off

[keen rivet]

native left, api right

[subtle bison]

i already told you the converted game lights are not a source of truth because they used fixed variables

[keen rivet]

raster

raster

light spread more accurate, construct sun is very spread

[subtle bison]

you can change the default angular multiplier value to match the converted one, i dont personally care for it. the runtime uses a fixed value as well and doesn't derive it from the game at all.

as for the indoors one, yeah it's a tad dark

[keen rivet]

the bounced light difference is weird i wonder what causes that

[subtle bison]

turn off NRC, it's buggy af

[keen rivet]

why is auto exposure worse than i remember

huh much better when i reset settings to default

construct physical sky settings

[steel lark]

just use the sky editor clueless

[polar anchor]

My 4090 vram is mostly filled too lol

[onyx ridge]

i wonder if having raytracing enabled unloads original textures from memory if they're not being used

probably not

i know replaced assets can be bumped super down in resolution if you're vram constrained

[compact blaze]

i really hope it does

[dusk wagon]

david baszucki

[willow fog]

who

[digital mason]

not a very cool guy

[willow fog]

hm

ohhh

yeah okay

fair

[lean hatch]

Roblox owner after erik died

[dusk wagon]

this guy really sucks

[lean hatch]

I miss erik

[dusk wagon]

same

[willow fog]

my gmod be crashing

@subtle bison

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-gif-8563776488450180456

[dusk wagon]

mines is crashing ALMOST EVERYDAY

today it worked

but when i open it again

it crashes

IM EVEN ON STABLE

[willow fog]

oghey it worked

[dusk wagon]

😐

good for you

[modern quest]

they erased all mention of Erik from the site too after this dude took over

[onyx ridge]

does remix have something built in for like making portals with the api or something

[compact blaze]

wtf????

[willow fog]

huh?

[dusk wagon]

WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCC

WHYYYY

wheres the skill issue guy when you need him

[subtle bison]

he left

😭

[dusk wagon]

😭

[subtle bison]

update to stable and see if it happens

[willow fog]

No more crashes but this

#1116089843479498782 message

[dusk wagon]

#general-remix message the dudes last message bro

[subtle bison]

im on a hunch but try deleting your topbr folder

[willow fog]

FINALL

[subtle bison]

engine issue, but this one isnt fixable

it's also cosmetic

as in, its not crashing your game or anything

[subtle bison]

idk prob

[onyx ridge]

you should make an addon that like

utilises that

maybe not like a full portals mod but at least some way of being able to have visual ones light passes through and stuff

[subtle bison]

maybe one day

[dusk wagon]

that worked

thank you cr :P

[willow fog]

why is it so bluuury

[dusk wagon]

i have my res to 1920x1080

[willow fog]

nice skybox

[willow fog]

That doesn't mean it has to be blurry

[dusk wagon]

maybe its because im using the windows print key

[willow fog]

So am I

[dusk wagon]

idk why its blurry then

[willow fog]

Mine's much crispier

[willow fog]

What's your dlss set to

Do skies work yet?

got damn

This is a beautiful map

[subtle bison]

glad it did, i think i can finally track down this crashing issue

just wish i could reproduce it

[compact blaze]

kinda reminds me of how guns look in cod mw23 path traced mode

[digital mason]

is that the ones with PBR

[willow fog]

yes

[digital mason]

how did you get it to work

[willow fog]

Made it myself

[digital mason]

ohhh damn

looks pretty good tbf

[compact blaze]

method to fix weird polygonal shadows

could be helpful in remix

nvm it says cutscenes only so maybe doesn’t work well in gameplay

[lean hatch]

Yea

[compact blaze]

this is gmod right?

[willow fog]

no

[lapis delta]

he has his own face.

[subtle bison]

hope they release a paper

most of the shading issues on models is shadow termination, source submits smooth normals already

iirc

[compact blaze]

search this up

[sonic apex]

the callisto protcol has something similar

[loud mural]

@subtle bison Do you know why the game gets so laggy when I disable Remix API Lights?

[subtle bison]

when api lights are disabled, it uses lightupdater entities to keep the source light active and not despawn. since they're individual entities, the more there are, the more it bogs down the game

[keen rivet]

i dont remember lightupdaters being as lagy as they are now when i first made them

[subtle bison]

they've been that way since the start, have you tried maps with 300+ lights?

im talking like early 2024

no one cared as much because it was the only way to get map lighting then

[dense crow]

https://youtu.be/5lDkHQ1bxG0

"RTX Remix turned modders into slaves" BRUTAL 🥀 🥶 ☢️

[keen rivet]

Okay but I'm having fun so?

[compact blaze]

HIS THUMBNAILS ARE SO SICK WTF

i mean i dont really like the text style cause its a common clickbait thumbnail trend

but everything else is amazing

the framing too amazing concept

obv execution isn’t the best in camera quality and cutting him out the og scene

and ofc the text

But everything else bravo

especially the hidden text

[compact blaze]

also im confused like gamer nexus of all people? The same guy making endless videos about how nvidia is basically contributing to the end of the free world

like i would assume he’d do a video on like linus or smth but this dude?

[dense crow]

The commenters last time were also skeptical of gamers Nexus but according to him they're the same?

He doubles down at the end

Basically

[compact blaze]

is he saying nvidia and gamers nexus are the same?

[subtle bison]

hello offtopic 3

[dense crow]

MOOOOOOOOOOODS

[subtle bison]

AgX is dead 🙀
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/pull/101

(for now)

excited for the hdr pipeline changes tho

[winter radish]

Portal 2 with RTX is calling

[compact blaze]

wait what

what happened to agx?

[umbral cape]

The PR was cancelled

[compact blaze]

i thought they already had agx

unless im mistaking it with the upgraded agx

nvm i am

[willow fog]

Should I PR the clearcoat shader?

[compact blaze]

Was there any noticable hit in perf? I remember hearing from a remix dev talking about why having custom shader support isn’t preferrable

smth about a large perf hit

[willow fog]

I haven't done any profiling yet but I didin't notice any differences.

[compact blaze]

hopefully they do add support for custom addons/plugins

at least a system as robust as blender where you can literally do anything like make blender fully recognize source engine materials

[keen rivet]

hable filmic is dead

[sonic apex]

interesting

[subtle bison]

HDR in remix ?

[sonic apex]

👀

[subtle bison]

new gmod rtx update 🫃

its definitely gmod btw

[winter radish]

No FSR? L update

[livid rapids]

Throwback

[polar anchor]

Oh forgot to mention the mod that broke view rolling is custom fov

Found that out months ago

[compact blaze]

:(((((((((

[keen rivet]

Bruh

[compact blaze]

im sending this to nintendo

[polar anchor]

you know whats funny about that? I was genuinely thinking of sending them to Nintendo's twitter lol

I just felt too lazy so i didnt

[compact blaze]

im surprised no trolls try find any way to report any nintendo fan content as “harmful” to any nintendo support thing

[polar anchor]

I mean we got very close during the gmod purge a couple years back

[polar anchor]

And there is pokemone uranium. A completely original fan game with new designs that got blasted out of existance

[compact blaze]

that was probably a troll pretending be nintendo

[polar anchor]

I think it was. Though facepunch really didnt want nintendo to come later so they just tried to get people not to add nintendo content (ofc that didnt stop us 🤣)

[quiet scroll]

I just hate how fucking negative this guy is, debbie downer final boss

rtx remix is open source, it’s free, and no one’s holding us at gunpoint

Bro has such a victim complex 💀

[wispy crest]

reee people making cool things for free

[winter radish]

“Designed to run poorly on other vendors”
So dude pulled that out of his ass because I’ve seen Remix devs work on AMD issues before to improve their experience
On top of that, AMD hardware is just designed poorly for RT, it’s literally running some of the RT through Compute Shaders, it’s a miracle Remix runs as good as it does
And on top of that, AMD will help with any issues that come up
They’re looking into issues I’ve reported because I’m in the Vanguard program

The first sign that he didn’t know what he was talking about was him saying it ran DXR when it’s a Vulkan engine

[dense crow]

guhhh agx ew ew ew ew

threat interactive literally said its bad smh

[dense crow]

this will be super mario in 2021

[polar anchor]

I like threat interactive, but man going after a free tool made for the community is really dumb.

[dense crow]

I love remix but like doesnt it work though?

Like as good marketing for Nvidia?

[polar anchor]

It is, remix is for justifying RTX cards. But hey everybody wins with remix since the community gets to choose whatever game to remaster and make it till their liking

[dense crow]

Yeah

But for his argument (he totally could have said it with more nuance and without attacking remix)

anything that contributes to nvidia market share is long term bad

https://tenor.com/hDm0oz7T0cf.gif

[polar anchor]

He should stick to talking about graphics, that is why I was subscribed to him in the first place lol. Hell he is the one that pointed out the TAA plauge for me. Now i cant unsee the blurriness

[dense crow]

Yeah kinda yeah

[sonic apex]

even just graphics related topics he has no idea what he is talking about

like when he trashed remix he shat on remix's brdf...

takes 30 seconds to check dxvk-remix's source code and figure out that remix's brdf setup is bleeding edge

the fact he didn't do that should tell you everything you need to know about him

he just assumed it was bad

[steel lark]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3463487404

coolio

very realistic map

[dense crow]

I hope that soon enough you will be able to have rtx remix vr and just disappear

[livid rapids]

That's called going outside

[sonic apex]

feel like temporal artifacts would be really bad in vr lol

[fathom loom]

🧄

[royal vortex]

Backrooms gun shots

[meager oar]

damn

[smoky otter]

guys

what do you do in gmod beside using it as a photomode

any interesting activities?

[meager oar]

npc battles

[half viper]

tbh

i forgot how to have fun in gmod

[willow fog]

I don't know how to setup npc battles without spawning everything manually.

It's annoying and I still can't find the wanted system thing

[compact blaze]

visual effects edited in post?

also *Backrooms back shots

[lean hatch]

Trolling rp servers

[mental snow]

I haven't properly played gmod in a bit but when I did I would use addons that would spawn npcs around the map

npc daemon was the best

[royal vortex]

No I got a ReShade preset

[royal vortex]

LMAO

[polar anchor]

Just doing anything man. gmod rtx is pretty much any game rtx. Plus you can play any Source campaign in gmod so you could do that. You could play TTT and prophunt if you want. I just mess around in sandbox with custom weapons, PMs, and vehicles. There is a mod to generate CQB rougelike dungeons so you could run those. And at the end you can play gun game with friends

[smoky otter]

Cqb roguelike dungeons? I need that

[compact blaze]

double sun </3

anyone know how to fix that with the physical atmosphere?

also what happened to the glowing ball

hm

shame switching weapons causes the game to freeze for a bit

also latency seemingly doubling for a bit every 10 seconds

im assuming this is all normal in gmod rtx since i last used it?

[compact blaze]

oh my god is this what i've been missing?

god i wish i could figure out whats causing the latency to always double

[polar anchor]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3560733120

[steel lark]

you need to remove the map sun

just go to rtx remix light translation

and turn directional brightness to 0

otherwise if you make it night the sun will still be there

[dense crow]

Yeah we should invent something that's not temporal already

[sonic apex]

radiance cascades is probably what you'd want

[dense crow]

Pretty sure that went badly in half life

[sonic apex]

lol

https://youtu.be/3so7xdZHKxw

decent gi without needing to denoise

temporal stuff is prevelant because it just often makes sense. your essentially speading the cost of effects over multiple frames

[dense crow]

I don't like denoising because like what you're simulating hyper specific light bounces only to dilute them with ai hallucinations?

It's like can't we start using even maths for this shit already

[willow fog]

Not necessarily. Nrd is not ai or ml.

Just math

It'll always be an approximation as long as we're stuck with 1 spp path tracing

Control is one of the few games. Probably even the only one which allows you to tweak the spp to what you want.

It used to be a dev setting unlocked through a dev menu but after they saw how many people were using it, they added it to the options

I was probably the most vocal about it

[sonic apex]

also think that ai is pretty well suited for path tracing tbh

[steel lark]

isn't this 2d only?

[sonic apex]

not anymore

https://youtu.be/rG2aok2SdbU

[steel lark]

lightmaps 🤑

[steel lark]

ohh cool

[steel lark]

lightmaps exist since quake i'm pretty sure lmao

[compact blaze]

and im guessing the latency doubling is normal?

[steel lark]

https://tenor.com/view/our-brains-are-shrinking-our-brains-are-gone-let's-take-a-look-observing-gif-18043853439290107939

[compact blaze]

the only use of ai in path tracing i can think of rn is NRC and RR

everything else is just math

even the new path guiding stuff

[compact blaze]

also in the case of RR it can’t really hallucinate

its not generative ai

it only has one goal of reconstructing an image over multiple pre existing frames

no generating fake information

all that information is real with the only job of reusing that information until its useless before discarding, like other real time denoisers

Same mentality as smth like TAA

[digital mason]

finna snitch on you to nintendo

[winter radish]

Gonna get them executed 🥀

[runic gale]

Supposed be normal or?

@keen rivet ?

[compact blaze]

ughhhhhh

what methods do yall recommend for finding addons that cause these constant pulses of frame spikes

[umbral cape]

I'm not too familiar with gmod, but the 50:50 method may help find the culprit.

[livid rapids]

Yeah

Disable half your addons, test, then another half, test, and so on

[compact blaze]

whats the best way to do that if i already have most of my addons disabled

[livid rapids]

well just do it

if you have two addons enabled half of that is one...

[compact blaze]

latency spikes still seemingly happening with all addons disabled

i might metaphorically choke someone out in minecraft

it relates to simulation?

oh god ya it def is

does anyone here know what simulation relates to?

[compact blaze]

@subtle bison have u gotten latency spikes like this on gmod before?

[steel lark]

nope

[modern quest]

you running out of RAM?

[compact blaze]

i have 32gigs of ddr5

[smoky otter]

Running out of

[compact blaze]

its mainly a gmod thing im noticing

Like in regular gmod sometimes those pulses occur

i wish there was some way to properly analyze whats causing those pulses

i think the last thing i could realistically try is reinstall gmod

[compact blaze]

oh remix isn't liking this map i think

[compact blaze]

@dusk wagon look who it is

[compact blaze]

@subtle bison how did u get hair cards to look so good?

[compact blaze]

why he so sad

[cerulean moat]

holy

[compact blaze]

all this needs is fog

actually can u add in remix volumetrics?

[cerulean moat]

i prefer without fog

but this how it looks with

[compact blaze]

where are the light shafts?

[wispy crest]

more god rays

[compact blaze]

what reshade shaders did u use?

[compact blaze]

what map is this?

[compact blaze]

What mod r u using here?

[steel lark]

Bro

[compact blaze]

wdym "bro" bro

[steel lark]

https://tenor.com/view/please-stop-please-stop-matpat-meme-matpat-gif-1403963513819787752

[compact blaze]

this is so fnaf coded

[royal vortex]

these, tweaked some for the preset, if you want it ill DM you.

[royal vortex]

oh god Stanleys gonna KILL the narrator!

[compact blaze]

i would like the preset pretty pls

[royal vortex]

hold on lol

[compact blaze]

brother the narrator such a dick fr bro tried to NUKE

i be playin the stanley parable and he nukes me

[steel lark]

@subtle bison silhouette pom when?

[modern quest]

i'm working on that

[steel lark]

really?

[modern quest]

yes

[steel lark]

it looks so good on Crimson Desert ngl

[dull yarrow]

is this supposed to happen or is it a bug? its showing my screen above me when i crouch or when im at a low height

[lean hatch]

Vertex explosions exist still? Wow

[subtle bison]

caused by an addon

i forget the name but there is a good list to go through here
https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/wiki/Problematic-Addons

[lean hatch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/934705285912739850/1305289994101067836/Tumblr_l_215834812750058.gif

[modern quest]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-licking-gif-15650487567340907664

[lean hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-leaf-vibes-vibing-sleeping-cat-gif-17297041570420202318

[modern quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig_FV-Ex4RU

[subtle bison]

guh

[lean hatch]

Sorry cr

[compact blaze]

my vertex exploded 🥀

[steel lark]

https://tenor.com/view/averiguar-resenha-averiguando-resenha-resenhudo-meme-gif-1109865373643473372

[livid rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/soggy-cat-soggy-cat-looking-let's-take-a-look-gif-4915798312259792128

[steel lark]

reject modernity:

embrace cpu path tracing:

[polar anchor]

huh looks weird

[polar anchor]

SSB4 Samus renders incorrectly. Looks very good material wise but for some reason her hair is dark red and her suit is black (she is supposed to be blond and has a blue and cyan suit)

marking the suit with legacy brings the blue back but the hair turns pink lol

[smoky otter]

https://tenor.com/view/2017x-2017x-rizz-hit-single-hit-single-sonic2017x-rizz-licking-lips-gif-11652327508459589829

[polar anchor]

The normal map is really rough lol. So it looks bizarre

[willow fog]

Gmod dead?

[subtle bison]

yuh

[subtle bison]

them s&box people heard i was working on gmod rtx

[sonic apex]

[half viper]

haha i still have it

[modern quest]

😭 😭 😭

[steel lark]

i have it too

🤑

[zealous narwhal]

I don’t

I lost it

[keen rivet]

Rip

I still have mine

[lean hatch]

mine is gone

[willow fog]

They got my ass

[meager oar]

i think they said only those will still have sandbox that have recently played alot

[livid rapids]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3706539692&searchtext=

should work? sheepylord uses that old ass 32 bit remix but I don't see how it wouldn't work on current remix

[subtle bison]

yea should work fine

[livid rapids]

yup

[compact blaze]

shame rig is a bit messed up

[livid rapids]

yeah that's just a nature of rigging

it's never gonna be perfect

[compact blaze]

at least make it not perfect plus 7 yknow what i mean

like just a litttttle extra fixing

to get rid of that

[lapis pewter]

yo CR have u noticed differences in denoising in recent builds? I seem to have a bit more boiling

i mean recent dxvk-remix builds

Since about a month or so ago

[compact blaze]

maybe preset D is enabled?

[lapis pewter]

same issue with no .confs present, trying to narrow it down

[compact blaze]

ugh weird

[lapis pewter]

would have to probably do some dxvk-remix release regression testing, thought i would ask a bit to see if others have noticed anything, potentially cut the search space

[subtle bison]

I personally have not, i assume you're taking about remix in general?

[lapis pewter]

Yep 🙂

[subtle bison]

i think gmod's runtime is about 2 months behind master so i probably haven't ran into it. I'll update my fork at some point and ill let you know if i see any boiling

[compact blaze]

maybe it has something to do with nrc and them boosting bounce lighting?

check nrc and disable that setting since its enabled by default

[lapis pewter]

hmm good thing to check, thanks, ill take a look

i think the boiling started before that commit but i want to check

[compact blaze]

im so smart :)

[onyx ridge]

portal 2 ce released i wish we were in the timeline where gmod used strata source

i mean other than the fact remix wouldn't work with it

dude you are not doing shit

[digital mason]

looks pretty crazy

[compact blaze]

what map?

[digital mason]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3645710552

its broken kinda but it works in some places

[compact blaze]

map i recommend trying is this

Heard from my goat @royal vortex

[digital mason]

damnn okay

[lapis delta]

tf this bro looks so realistic

[digital mason]

how did you get the hud working

mine usually shows up as purple

or missing texture purple

[compact blaze]

Try run the game with workshop disabled and see if it still happens

[livid rapids]

you need to update your gmod rtx

rubat changed some stuff about the hud and if your normal gmod is updated it'll show as purple on rtx

[digital mason]

its on the latest ver alright

[livid rapids]

sorry didn't explain myself properly, I meant the game itself