Garry's Mod

[subtle bison]

spritecard particles still need more work

and uhh wireframe material

all should be doable with the same treatment i've done for eyes

eyerefract sort of working, some kind of blending issue

though it was never meant to work on fixed function so this backport is a lil weird

yeah uhh definitely weird

@keen rivet so i assume you did like a keyword replace for anything that matched glass or "refract" lmao

sclera is replaced with glass from topbr lmao

[willow fog]

Alan wake

[willow fog]

Maybe that's the lens layer with the cornea somewhere underneath?

[subtle bison]

nah for that model its not rendering correctly in-engine either

[loud mural]

Fences have a similar issues as well lol

[subtle bison]

wtf

[loud mural]

That's a fresh install

[subtle bison]

added to the fix-list

tried a non-tf2 eyerefract model, same issue lol

fuckin scott the woz works lmao

[subtle bison]

which fence is this? i cant reproduce

[loud mural]

Yeah ya know me either now because I just reinstalled again and I can't reproduce it either

[subtle bison]

lol gmod rtx moment

[loud mural]

But I swear it happened without me changing anything last time lol

[subtle bison]

yeah i believe you

topbr still needs some polish

[loud mural]

Autocategorization is weird as well

Like some decals here are marked as emissive when they shouldn't and others should be marked

[subtle bison]

for emissives it looks for $selfillium in the vmt params, but i have found some props misuse it, i havent found a workaround for that yet

[loud mural]

What about the antline on the wall, it should be emissive

[subtle bison]

its weird because the one on the floor worked lol

[loud mural]

Yeah exactly

[subtle bison]

try doing a manual rescan and make sure this is on, iirc its off by default

(which is even weirder if its marking them with it off)

[loud mural]

Yeah it is marking stuff while it's off

and yeah I did a scan and nothing seems to have happened

[subtle bison]

ok i think i know what test chamber that is in p1, ill check the vmt

slowly getting there...

eyerefract is a pita

disabling alpha in remix seems to be the key

uv scale is way off

[keen rivet]

Get them recognised by remix as eyes I think they can do that now

Also

FUCK YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[subtle bison]

nah the remix eyes stuff doesnt seem to work correctly yet

i tried it in hl2rtx earlier today

does nothing

wait

it looks for D3DTSS_TCI_CAMERASPACEPOSITION

so i wonder if the demo build of hl2rtx just doesnt do that yet

maybe i should set this up in gmod rtx

ahhh so much better

[loud mural]

Ayyyyy

[subtle bison]

its more of a workaround but im just disabling alpha for the iris and manually scaling it

the vin disel model is fucked up idk why lmao

[lean hatch]

Hes so fucking high

[subtle bison]

eye stuff is available in nightly, but you will have to manually categorize the iris as decal for now
https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/commit/f6a7d51f0f19fab12d69f8f54b3a705f813ea634

i will set up autocategorization for it soon

[loud mural]

Awesome!

[lean hatch]

Ive got no funny quip this time so good job cr

[subtle bison]

ty

[loud mural]

Speaking of autocategorization it misses some detail textures in G-String

[subtle bison]

you'll have to go to extreme angles to see the iris for most models btw

[subtle bison]

iirc gstring is mountable?

[loud mural]

Yes

[subtle bison]

i really need to pick up that game

[subtle bison]

sans lmfao

[loud mural]

What's your Steam, I can yeet it your way

[subtle bison]

aww you dont have to

[loud mural]

Nah you do cool shit for us gmod rtxers, plus it's a good game in it's own right imo

[subtle bison]

https://steamcommunity.com/id/CattaRappa/

[loud mural]

G-String has all kinds of edge cases for RTX Remix so it'll be helpful in that way too

[loud mural]

thx, added

[keen rivet]

😭

[subtle bison]

so peak

[subtle bison]

🥀

[keen rivet]

I'm so glad my old internet presence is mostly lost

[loud mural]

mmm yummy vertex explosions

That looks awesome though regardless

[subtle bison]

yeah remix doesnt like those additive transistion effects

same happens in black mesa

really old bug, i should report it

[lean hatch]

Does gman have smooth normals

[subtle bison]

smooth normals doesnt seem to work in gmod for me

but not in that vid no

[lean hatch]

Damn

[keen rivet]

Also damn you're older than me that means

I was like 5 or 6 then

[subtle bison]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wJD3qiNjSeHS0dP28T

im 24 😭

[keen rivet]

I'm 20

This means I started gmod rtx when I was like uhh 16 just turned 17

In 2022

[subtle bison]

finally got a vid

i mean non-raytraced RT cameras look pretty ok in this map

still got no idea why my playermodel shows up when it is raytraced

i cannot get over how well the eyes work 😱

also rtx wrinkles

[modern quest]

✨ 27 (in 2 months)

[subtle bison]

time flies

[modern quest]

😔

[half viper]

@subtle bison have you used the the eye shader thing sultim did?

this

im turning 20 this year

scary

im no longer a teenager

[subtle bison]

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im rebasing my remix fork to include the new eye shader so ill be able to test it soon

[loud mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr5Bj2NfajM

It's the culling

frustum culling
BSP culling
Force noVis
These all cause the playermodel to render

[half viper]

hell yeah

i thought it'd be like smooth normals option

[subtle bison]

ofc its culling patches 🥀

[half viper]

where you select textures

[subtle bison]

nope unfortunately

i think it was designed for hl2rtx specifically

[loud mural]

As long as one of them is disabled your playermodel doesn't render

[half viper]

huh

i guess they're working on making father grigori look more human

his eyes still haunt me

[subtle bison]

ngl the original hl2 characters with RT actually look human already

at least with my gmod eyes

[loud mural]

Yeah they work better than the hl2 rtx eyes imo

I've seen them disappear sometimes

[subtle bison]

it looks just like normal source but without glint

[subtle bison]

yeah and the colors are all weird

[loud mural]

Also fyi you have G-String now btw

[subtle bison]

im downloading it as we speak

[loud mural]

Modular

[subtle bison]

also realized gmod 10 from 2007 has the same issues so im wondering if they just brought back that rendering path or something. Mine is a whole new shader from the ground up

[half viper]

flashing alyx with path tracing™

[subtle bison]

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the eyes bug out depending on which direction you're facing

yep citizens look stoned

[half viper]

LMFAOOOO

[loud mural]

Probably since hl2 rtx is based on Mapbase I'm assuming they just backported ff stuff into it like dx6/7 ff

[half viper]

3dsky fix when 🥺 🙏

[subtle bison]

its on the to-do

[half viper]

can you believe it guys

[subtle bison]

there is 2 types of fixes, one for normal rendering, and then the other one for perf mode

[half viper]

3dsky just a week away

[loud mural]

Because they use the old fire instead of getting the Orange Box fire working

[subtle bison]

i like that discord gif search is completely broken so i cant send you my fav version of that meme

[subtle bison]

weird because it looks like they have the spritecard shader backported

or at least some kind of sophisticated particle system

we're still stuck with semi working spritecard and everything else forced to unlitgeneric

[loud mural]

Could have been just an aesthetic choice then, the light entities were colored with the original fire color in mind after all

[subtle bison]

that makes a lot more sense

[loud mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3APC8Qhu4jQ

Also there's this weird bug with the skybox where particles act like the scene scale is 1

And some 2D elements just don't render in the raytraced view (the crane)

But others do render like radio antenna

[subtle bison]

ah yeah this will be fun to look into

iirc we'll have to set the reprojected sky scale to what its set in hammer for the sky camera

i can parse that tho with niknaks or something

[loud mural]

Also King David had automatic detection for skybox scale at some point but it never got merged into main because it was Source specific iirc

[subtle bison]

oh i knew he worked on this but i didnt realize he already had autodetection?

[loud mural]

Yeah he needed it for his game

[subtle bison]

ill take a look at his PR/branch again

[loud mural]

It has all thsese weird skybox scales

Also lights don't render/scale when the skybox is reprojected into the main view

[willow fog]

But are they realtime?

[subtle bison]

technically? just a normal map

[subtle bison]

[willow fog]

But the strength

[subtle bison]

ah no its static

[willow fog]

Then not realtime

[subtle bison]

ok so the eye shader options shows in hl2rtx but not gmod????

how does that work

its prob something simple i missed, but im going to bed, ill look into it tmr

[loud mural]

Cya later modulator

[weak ermine]

did u fix water?

[compact blaze]

have you fixed api lights being noisier compared to regular lights?

along with autopbr being updated to remix can directly take in that source material info, rather than converting it and inflating both file size and vram usage

[viscid ocean]

I remember when you used to crash everytime you tabbed out

[turbid barn]

Cataract

CattaRaccta

[subtle bison]

1. afaik yes
2. probably wont happen, remix expects a certain file format

[compact blaze]

boooooooo

[zealous narwhal]

Some models have polygon seams in them when hardware skinning is enabled

[compact blaze]

@subtle bison how did u let this happen?

sorry

execution

[subtle bison]

ye its a known issue

[subtle bison]

vortigaunt finally looks normal

[loud mural]

Hell yeah

Any idea why my game freezes at the end of loading into a map?

It just happens randomly sometimes

Like it just hangs at the last moment and I have to restart the game

[subtle bison]

anything in ./rtx-remix/logs/ and ./crashes?

[loud mural]

Yeah let me just cause it again because the remix log got overwritten

[lean hatch]

I meannnnnnnnnnn

I meannnnnn

Seeing the squares in the eyes is annoying me a bunch

[subtle bison]

yeah normals are weird for them

unfortunately smooth normals doesnt seem to do anything either

the price is horrible, but I need RR

[lean hatch]

Uhmmmmmmmmmmm like I can help pay for it

!!!!

[subtle bison]

thats awfully nice for you to offer but i would prefer to do it out of my own pocket

[lean hatch]

Ok

Nice way of saying "fuck off!" /lh

[subtle bison]

😭

[lean hatch]

Were very hyper today

[subtle bison]

i just feel like i would be taking advantage of your money

[lean hatch]

Ok but

Not really

You still do stuff for me/could do stuff

I bug you abunch

And still do

Shrug

Forcing you to do another project

[subtle bison]

if you want to support me, you can send however much money you're comfortable with to my ko-fi. While I do help you out with a lot of stuff, keep in mind I have no obligations to work a specified thing for a given amount of time, im just one dude who likes remix

[lean hatch]

Never said you did, js explaining why im willing to support

Whats your ko fi

[subtle bison]

me when the english language exists and is my native language and im still not fluent with it

https://ko-fi.com/cattarappa

for anyone else who might see this, pls do not feel obligated to send me money unless you absolutely want to

[river nexus]

What if I send 99999 gazillion

[subtle bison]

rtx 5090 here i come 🤑

or rtx pro 6000 blackwell

[river nexus]

No, rtx pro 6000

Ya

We would all have rtx pro 6000 if ai didnt take over the market

[loud mural]

and if COVID never happened

[subtle bison]

or AI datacenters

[loud mural]

They started pumping up the prices for GPUs and realized that they could keep them that high because so many people were willing to pay out the ass for them during the tech sortage when COVID hit

[subtle bison]

[loud mural]

That's really when prices started to get out of hand imo

The AI shit just made shit worse

[subtle bison]

i really hope chinese manufacturers start churning out some ram

[loud mural]

I wonder if that does happen how badly it'll get tariffed in the U.S.

[wispy crest]

some would argue they already do that (Taiwan)

[loud mural]

The majority of the world wouldn't though. Plus they do act independently no matter who you believe owns the territory

[subtle bison]

longer form vid of the eye stuff, man i feel like replaying hl2 ep2 all over again
https://youtu.be/LRvkwY9ue04

[weak ermine]

damn

I can't

dumbass sanctions

[willow fog]

My GOD

Claude

I got the $20 subscription this month because no way I can pay for the 100 dollar tier

And holy fuck

I run like 5 prompts and it runs out of usage

I JUST WANNA MAKE MY FUKING THINNNNNGS

[subtle bison]

ye its stupid expensive now

maybe the ai bubble is finally gonna pop

[lean hatch]

They already arent planning on making a profit next year

[willow fog]

Good

But I still got mods to make and projects to finish and I can't code for shit

Also why is the cheapest tier 20 dollars and the one above 100?

That's insane

Where's the 50 tier?

I can't afford 100. I can barely afford bills on a good month

[modern quest]

😔 copilot

[noble vapor]

If you're using Claude for coding ditch it for $20 codex plan, gpt 5.3 is in par if not even better

[willow fog]

hm

[modern quest]

def not imo

i used codex 5.3 on and off and it would often mess up and cause major issues. it deleted half of a bunch of files i had

also do not support openai. fuck them

[wispy crest]

yeah support the other ai companies that are much different

[keen rivet]

github copilot better

[subtle bison]

this masterpiece dupe can finally be realized

[weak ermine]

more ai slop

[willow fog]

Incredible this goes in #showcase

[modern quest]

genuinely are much better than openai

anthrophic performs studies and releases them publicly to attempt to reduce harm of their LLMs

and OAI is the one that caused the RAM shortage btw

[willow fog]

Someone should give me a 100 dollars so that I can help anthropic

🙂

[subtle bison]

also doesnt anthropic utilize purpose-built HW for their stuff?

[modern quest]

unsure about that

[subtle bison]

gotcha, i heard somewhere they used google tensor TPUs or something

[modern quest]

also:

Anthropic's usage policy prohibits directly using Claude for domestic surveillance or in lethal autonomous weapons.[76] These restrictions led to members of the FBI and Secret Service being unable to use it,[77] and to tensions with the Pentagon and the Trump administration.[76][78]

OAI directly allows this afaik

[willow fog]

Checks the recent verification leaks

Yep

Also Kim

Have you seen chat jimmy

https://chatjimmy.ai/

Try it

Put anything in there. It's just a chatbot

With a twist I'm sure you'll figure out

[modern quest]

🤔

eatin dinner rn

will look after

[subtle bison]

why is it so fast

https://www.reddit.com/r/ollama/comments/1rajqj6/15000_toks_on_chatjimmy_is_the_modelonsilicon_era/

[keen rivet]

Yeah but they're kinda shitty if you dare use your subscription else how

[modern quest]

🤔 can you reword that pls

[willow fog]

Mhm

[modern quest]

very quick noodle

anyway that is pretty impressive

been waiting for this to happen

[weak ermine]

poor clank

[loud mural]

There was no dump file created in the crashes folder

[subtle bison]

not even a .txt file?

[loud mural]

In order to stop it from hanging either I change to a random map and hope it doesn't hang or turn off RT

But if I turn it back on in the same map it still hangs

This happens randomly when I either switch levels or when starting a new game for the first time

I tried reinstalling ofc

[loud mural]

Probably because I need to force close it

[subtle bison]

so it sounds like it's remix related?

[loud mural]

Yeah

[subtle bison]

hmm

are you able to use visual studio to hook the debugger to the game?

my remix build includes debug headers so we can find out where it's crashing

[loud mural]

Alright, I gotta install VS, I've never attached a debugger before honestly lol

[subtle bison]

its not too hard, i can send a vid on how to do it rq

[loud mural]

Yeah that'd be appecated honestly

Which VS should I get btw? The latest one?

[lean hatch]

ok guys

quark bomb mod is NOT a good idea with remix

[subtle bison]

yeah latest community is fine

it will ask you what packages to install in the VS installer, select the C++ development template, after that it should do the rest of the install process

[loud mural]

This one correct?

[subtle bison]

yeah

[loud mural]

Alright it's downloading everything

mmm

very fun

[subtle bison]

guh

this is how i attach the debugger on vs 2022, it shouldn't be any different on 2026

you dont need to do the remix menu stuff, i was just forcing it to "break" to demonstrate

[lean hatch]

cr does your most recent non gmod specific build have legacy emissives as well as the new updated remix normals stuff

[subtle bison]

if you mean the atmos build, it has the smooth normals stuff

legacy emissive is not there tho

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[lean hatch]

dang it

aight

[subtle bison]

working spritecard particles without any material modifications

all particle replacement mods work now

[half viper]

hell yeah

[half viper]

wait afair decals werent replaceable right?

like you couldnt tag them and they'd change next time you restart the game

[subtle bison]

only a few

hl2 grav gun beams, manhack light, a few others

oh look tf2 rtx is back 😛

[subtle bison]

hl3 leaked scenes

[half viper]

smooth em normals

[subtle bison]

it doesnt do much for hl2 characters

i've only seen it work on eyeballs so far

[half viper]

oh yeah it seems to crash whenever applied to the world

[subtle bison]

even when it doesnt crash, it rarely affects anything

ill make a github report for the crashes

[livid rapids]

Freeman

[lean hatch]

Its obviously caused by interloper

[compact blaze]

bro looks like he’s coated on vaseline

[compact blaze]

has anyone figured out a way to fix those tri shadow bugs?

[half viper]

normals smoothing thingy should help

[subtle bison]

i mean vorts are probably pretty oily

[compact blaze]

@subtle bison why not smooth normals?

[weak ermine]

.

[subtle bison]

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[lean hatch]

Morning gmod crew

[weak ermine]

evening

[willow fog]

night

[subtle bison]

morning

[subtle bison]

think im done hunting down the ambitious stuff for a while. bug fixes time 😎

btw i heavily recommend any new bugs be filed on the github so i can keep track of them better, thx

[weak ermine]

did u fix water

slaughter that dev_monitor bullshit

?

[lean hatch]

On my way to intentionally trigger every last bug

[compact blaze]

What ambitious stuff?

[onyx ridge]

what have the goings been

[subtle bison]

hw skinning and eyes

those have been the major ones

[subtle bison]

no

[weak ermine]

sob

[subtle bison]

trust me i want it gone too

speaking of water i need to backport all of the shader water materials so they're no longer untextured draw calls

[winter radish]

Guys, let’s all each donate $5 to Gmod RTX

[weak ermine]

i cant

[steel lark]

can i send you pix?

https://tenor.com/view/john-underground-pix-jom-do-pix-gif-14247519004336504276

[modern quest]

@subtle bison please tell me which pins i can remove so we can clean it up & make it easier to find important info

[subtle bison]

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[brittle token]

im wondering, is there any proper way to take captures? i'd love to be able to capture the whole map on a single capture, maybe there's some LOD command for it or something?

found this, but idk if it's for that

[subtle bison]

i recommend updating to the latest nightly, it merged the perf fork into main

you can either have performance mode off (the perf stuff), or perf disable PVS culling in the advanced options to make everything render at once

both work

i restored the ff wireframe shader, tho remix doesnt bind the texture for whatever reason, it might need a vmt edit to something it can see

wha is grigori lookin at 👁️

[brittle token]

that 🔮 has a high reflectancy index 👁️ 🔥

[subtle bison]

lmao

[brittle token]

wait, would this mean it is compatible with the hl2 rtx content or am i mixing up something?

[subtle bison]

wdym

oh you mean like prop replacements and stuff

[brittle token]

ya

[subtle bison]

while perf mode is on, no

but you can at least toggle it at runtime

[brittle token]

when we getting half life 2 RTX performance mode 🔥

lol

[subtle bison]

dunno, since its all done by lua i dont think i can ever get the mesh hashes to match

i havent actually looked into it, but its not high priority to me atm

i need to get hw skinning replacements working first 😛

[brittle token]

the world if half life 2 had come with LUA compatibility (or something)

https://tenor.com/view/mundo-feliz-onetreehsll-world-if-gif-14071235670792471304

[subtle bison]

oh wow it doesnt even use a basetexture

that explains why remix doesnt see it

wonder if changing it to unlitgeneric and the white debug texture is enough 😛

[brittle token]

we getting rtx wireframes before gta 6

[subtle bison]

yuh

hopefully i can get water working after this

it will be so nice to not be reliant on the 1 fucking dev_monitor texture lmao

would also be nice to somehow not let remix cache thumbnails, i think its why gmod uses so much damn vram

[brittle token]

for some reason pac3 was making gmod crash when entering koth_lakeside_final

Executable: Z:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\G-RTXlauncher\bin\win64\gmod.exe

-Lua Stack Traces-
==================
  Client
    0. CreateMaterial - [C]:-1
      1. (null) - lua/pac3/core/client/parts/material.lua:97
        2. include - [C]:-1
          3. LoadParts - lua/pac3/core/client/parts.lua:138
            4. (null) - lua/pac3/core/client/init.lua:60
              5. include - [C]:-1
                6. (null) - lua/autorun/pac_core_init.lua:29

  Server
    *Not in Lua call OR Lua has panicked*

  MenuSystem
    *Not in Lua call OR Lua has panicked*

[subtle bison]

looks to be a pac3 issue itself

[brittle token]

hopefully just lua being silly and nothing to do with rtx remix

[subtle bison]

yeah it doesnt look like it is

ok getting wireframe doesnt seem so easy no more lol, even changing its material just does not make it show up in remix. time to move onto water, the big one

[brittle token]

disabling the addon made it work, so idk. weird pac stuff

[modern quest]

😔

[subtle bison]

ill prob have to make it draw via the remix api like xoxor4d did or something, the shader does work so i technically succeeded 🙂

[brittle token]

wait. if wireframe didn't have a base texture or anything. was it like, a shader or something? (o💥_o)

since it does only shade white the edges of the model

[subtle bison]

i dont fully understand it yet, but i assume its just drawing verts with a vertex color?

its probably fine for d3d9, but doesnt really make the fit for remix

i can make it bind a texture but it would require more RE to find where materialsystem creates the material

because it ignored my VMT replacement lol

[brittle token]

https://tenor.com/view/cube-wireframe-wire-blender-abir-bakshi-gif-27401976

[subtle bison]

well, its textured...

🟦

oh wow its working, though topbr doesnt know what to do with it lol

@weak ermine we close to no more dev_monitor

[subtle bison]

ummm holy fuck?

@keen rivet

[brittle token]

what happened

cant have shit in teufort

performance mode got rid of a lot of things lol

[subtle bison]

ye its a regression, some gmod update has fucked up PVS checking

ok i have fucking cooked

i need to fix that 1 weird frame with autopbr but like holy shit these are the vanilla water maps mostly "just working"

[brittle token]

the "decal" on this wooden board fails even on the perf branch. but at least the pillars in the middle point are back. and there's a lot more stuff than on the "performance mode"

[subtle bison]

decals only render with engine world rendering so those wont ever render until a custom solution is added

[brittle token]

im actually not sure what it is exactly though, probably not a decal. but i havent learned what tf2 does with that texture

[subtle bison]

its more than likely a decal

there are no exceptions unless the map maker was stupid enough to bake it onto a map texture

[brittle token]

cocrock sadly disappears randomly for some reason lol

it even leaves a mark for a bit, nrc moment probably

[subtle bison]

its probably a detail texture

[brittle token]

damn that looks good

(minus the 1 evil water frame)

[subtle bison]

i think im just gonna make the shader draw only 1 frame since remix already animates the normals

[keen rivet]

What's up

[subtle bison]

no more dev_monitor

[keen rivet]

Oh flicker? I think rtx io causes that

[subtle bison]

we dont use rtx io

[keen rivet]

Oh nvm

But I know it being enabled used to cause water flicker

[subtle bison]

i can try turning it off

anyways, all of these shader backports are paying off ☺️

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@keen rivet

[keen rivet]

Crazy how we've been going for so long with half the shaders broken

[subtle bison]

yeah lmao

now that we have most of the studiorender patches, getting these working is non-trivial anymore

feels so good to remove the 400+ vmt overrides lol

https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/commit/56533eae92a82c63fd3be4fd8390224ca7d01f12
its live btw

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-cook-cookin-M6bJf9VBmrN1qTtPyL

[keen rivet]

He cooked

We should move that into an stdshaders_dx6 folder

[subtle bison]

which part?

also autocategorization broke at some point lol

much better

[keen rivet]

Wait how do you compile those are those shaders actually in a custom dll

huh interesting

[subtle bison]

glad you asked 😛

https://github.com/sambow23/obsolete-source-engine

[keen rivet]

I see

[subtle bison]

im compiling only stdshader_dx6

i even made a script to set up a build env for it

[keen rivet]

wonder if we can minimise that into its own project

[subtle bison]

yeah we prob can

i already got it to make sln with only the required deps

[keen rivet]

Using gmod_common like our binary module does

[subtle bison]

in 2 hours

lmao what

[brittle token]

we'd be living in an utopia if rtx remix didn't have validation when ingesting assets

[subtle bison]

me when blender toolkit

🤓

/jk

[brittle token]

teach me your ways 🙏 (?

[brittle token]

damn it

[subtle bison]

i mean it exists but i dont recommend it wholeheartedly

self plug
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[brittle token]

cant be worse than validation hell (probably)

[subtle bison]

i would use the git version, it fixes a issues in the last release

i need to work on it again at some point, but im kinda on a winning streak with gmod so i would be lying if i said im not addicted to working on that rn 😛

[brittle token]

it's blending time

*cycles all over the place

[subtle bison]

i think the instructions on the post is outdated, so i would follow the repo directly here
https://github.com/sambow23/blender-remix?tab=readme-ov-file#installation

[subtle bison]

thought about also making it a submodule or something

anyway im gonna go move a lot of mentioned issues/bugs from here to dedicated github issues so i can stop having amnesia when i need to fix something 🙂

(guys pls make github issues otherwise im gonna go insane)

[brittle token]

me when i open a github issue and then accidentally never answer back on it (i just dont really use github that much)

~~attempting to select the folder does nothing, and putting it in a simple .zip gets me this. how the hell is ~~ ok, the first thing i dont know what caused it, but the second one was 7zip deciding that zipping a folder means zipping it's contents instead of the folder itself

regardless. it got installed

[subtle bison]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bhoRGJHLkcNUz7aKSn

[modern quest]

😰

[subtle bison]

im sure there is a lot more that im forgetting

that was most of the stuff i had in my obsidian notes

plus whatever was sent here in the last few days

[brittle token]

if anyone knows what this button expects of me. it'd be apreciated

searching about it. same as all other RTX Remix related stuff. is a nothing burger

[weak ermine]

click on it

[brittle token]

when trying to select the normal .dds i made using gimp

[subtle bison]

i added all of the smooth normal and decal hashes for hl2 character eyes in the latest nightly, so they work out of the box now
https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/actions/runs/22337496010

[lean hatch]

awesoem

[subtle bison]

vort finally lookin normal ootb

[lean hatch]

YAY

[weak ermine]

he looks smooth

(insane)

[subtle bison]

bruh

why is this even a conf entry

just make it show persistently smh

no wonder why i couldnt see it in the fucking runtime

hello rtx eye shader 👁️

[lean hatch]

Hmmmmm

Does it work?

[subtle bison]

about to find out

the holy physgun

(i love driver bugs)

[lean hatch]

My fuckjjg eyeys

[subtle bison]

at least for me, it breaks eyes

it does automatically find them tho

[lean hatch]

Hm

[brittle token]

https://tenor.com/view/tongue-cat-tongue-out-cat-lowtiergod-cat-lightning-eyes-meme-cat-electrocuted-gif-8467019150886799045

[lean hatch]

Ill try it out in mgrr tmrw

Although I guess I might have issues

Cuz its a single texture

[brittle token]

https://tenor.com/view/flipsdesk-gif-5547444055233225754

invalid. why? cuz.

[subtle bison]

omg idris elba

this is new, some shaders actually do stuff now wtf

[lean hatch]

Wdym

What shader js thay

[subtle bison]

1st one is dof

[brittle token]

got that wiggly on it

[subtle bison]

its obviously not working correctly but i dont think it did anything beforehand

[polar anchor]

Plus remix also catching every single attachment icon 💀

[subtle bison]

yeah no wonder we have vram leaks

it's because of bad game design 🫄

[weak ermine]

he used that thing

he used the 🫄

insane

[weak ermine]

maybe autopbr autopbry that refraction texture and ahh

[lean hatch]

What

[subtle bison]

i think autopbr already did lmao

no way its reflective like that ootb

[lean hatch]

Can autopbr autopbr my autopbr

[subtle bison]

she on my auto till i pbr

[weak ermine]

does water overlay work

[lean hatch]

So cr

[subtle bison]

i dunno, ill check tmr

[lean hatch]

Auto pbr works how

Does it just convert the in game pbr

Or does it like generate it

[weak ermine]

autopbr autopbrfy my nonpbr source texture

[weak ermine]

its convert source materials into pbr

[subtle bison]

it takes normal, phong, bump, ssbumb, etc maps defined in the material vmt (definition if you wanna call it) from the source filesystem, uses heuristics to pbr-ify it, and then make a replacement, all automatic and happens in less than a second

[weak ermine]

that's why it looks goofy and oily

[subtle bison]

yeah still needs to be tuned

[lean hatch]

Ah

Ok

[weak ermine]

slider for each texture when

[subtle bison]

that's the goal

[polar anchor]

Worst part is that it skins/camos almost never work because the icons flood remix, making finding the actual texture near impossible. Unless it decides to flicker into existence

[lean hatch]

Remix autopbr is nessisary fo real

[weak ermine]

at least autonormal

[polar anchor]

Everything looks flat and washed out otherwise lol. I don't even want to remember how gmod looked without it 😂

[weak ermine]

my textures are kinda normalless

[subtle bison]

i think roughness is actually kinda decent for a lot of materials

like source's material system resembles some pbr, just depends on the specific asset

some are literally pbr

[polar anchor]

Someone is going through and re-adding phong to some valve assets, So far I think the CSS weapons looked better with them. I'm gonna try his face phong addon

[subtle bison]

i tried the face phong addon, it works well with autopbr

just wish we had SSS

otherwise it looks a bit oily lol

[weak ermine]

just degenerate it

ez win

[lean hatch]

Is phong the same as the base texture itself or

[subtle bison]

phong is like a rudimentary roughness map

[polar anchor]

Unless we can auto detect textures by color to add SSS, I dont think that is ever gonna work without manual imput

[subtle bison]

ye

[lean hatch]

Oh

[weak ermine]

father of pbr

[lean hatch]

Realizing how little we actually know about the rendering process with our in remix

Hammering the circle into the

Square hole

[polar anchor]

Dont get me started, VK Device Disconnect still likes to rear its ugly head occasionally

[subtle bison]

anyways i 💤 💤 💤

buh bye

[lean hatch]

Gn cr

"Enjoy your next 24 hours"

[weak ermine]

gn

[polar anchor]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3669165353&searchtext= 1.863 GB for a PM sp0ralshocked

[weak ermine]

not compressed trillionK textures

[polar anchor]

I prefer uncompressed but damn

Has the smooth normals + Eyes been pushed out?

[weak ermine]

imagine putting uncompressed 90k texture in game that don't have proper pbr and some shitty low quality lights

[polar anchor]

How old is the Xenthio/SourceRTXTweaks (Test changes) version of Binary Patches

both remx and fixes patches are on nightly, but my binary patches say main

[polar anchor]

lol I tried to tag a PM with smooth normals and it crashed the game

So uh, i guess dont tag something with it if it doesnt look like it needs it? I'm not sure what to take from this, I marked the eye texture with it and nothing happened but when selecting the body (the main part anyways lol) it crashed.

[keen rivet]

i believe theres more of this, like experimental ACES is hidden by default

[keen rivet]

phong exponent yeah

[keen rivet]

Old, use the perf patches if you use nightly, since the rest of the patches were moved to be at runtime

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/greetings-chat-chinchilla-hello-chat-greeting-meme-gif-9823477163413463224

[lean hatch]

Good morning

[weak ermine]

good evening

[willow fog]

Welcome, Cr

[zealous narwhal]

Props become invisible when performance mode is enabled

Adjusting PVS culling does nothing

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/issues/54

[subtle bison]

also what map is this 👀

[zealous narwhal]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3556813063

[brittle token]

less than a second? O.O

[subtle bison]

🏎️

[compact blaze]

i wanna ask did you figure out why smooth normals does nothing for hl2 characters in remix?

while smooth normals anywhere else (eg. Blender) works fine

[subtle bison]

i havent looked into it yet

also what does blender have to do with it lol

[compact blaze]

Example

[subtle bison]

i mean i know what smooth normals do in blender

but remix is a different thing and its not my implementation so i really dont know the cause yet

[compact blaze]

Ig im very robust in my speech then

[subtle bison]

guh

i assume you're talking about this

[compact blaze]

ya ya

[keen rivet]

Greetings

[brittle token]

i know it's the wrong style of normal map. but i cant find any innacuracies 🤔

should have used a distant light as a sun to test this one instead of an hdri..

[brittle token]

looks less "weathered sandy asperous floor" and more like "mall floor tile that has yet to be replaced in 20 years"

[subtle bison]

tf2 uses ssbumb for whatever reason

its normal maps weird cousin

[weak ermine]

its for optimisation✨✨

its saves 0.5!!!% of size compared to normal normals

[brittle token]

that isn't grabbed by default by rtx remix right? the one showing there is a normal map made with materialize

[subtle bison]

oh lol

nah topbr is lower load priority on remix so yours should take over

[brittle token]

have yet to figure out what these autopbr and topbr are ngl

[subtle bison]

wdym

[weak ermine]

try to use brain

[brittle token]

i remember reading in the gta 4 autopbr thingy that they used a modified rtx runtime to scrape the textures. but then i have no idea what they did to them. i cant imagine possibly going through thousands of textures with something like pbrfusion or similar (both because it's error-prone (i hate rtx digestion) and cuz it takes a really long time on non-godlike hardware)

topbr i suppose it's a per-game script to adapt whatever the game uses for material rendering into pbr (ex; ssbump -> normal map)

[brittle token]

ok fuck im starting to like the concept of SSBump maps

the normal map one just seems crusty in comparison

[keen rivet]

erm

[subtle bison]

minz

make it 0.999 or less

[keen rivet]

in where?

[subtle bison]

sky options in the runtine
it should already be set that in the rtx conf

[keen rivet]

hm i wonder what set it to this bugged value

[subtle bison]

wdym

[keen rivet]

also yeah autocategorisation broke and idk how

neither does the flashlight?

[subtle bison]

naw flashlight working fine for me

if you see a new bug pls file it on the github

[keen rivet]

flashlight no worky for me

[subtle bison]

i already made a fuck ton yesterday

[subtle bison]

you are using the latest nightlies of both the runtime and fixes package yes?

i tested everything last night, no issues with the skybox or flashlight

[keen rivet]

hm maybe yeah lemme do that

nope flashlight still broken and it reset my config back to one where skybox nearz is 1

[subtle bison]

the fuck

[quasi blaze]

i wonder btw when is 3d skyboxes ever gonna be fixed?

[subtle bison]

when i get to them

[weak ermine]

that's

fair

[keen rivet]

?

[quasi blaze]

oh

i didn't know they still work

[keen rivet]

you just have to turn them on

[subtle bison]

there is a fuck ton of issues on other maps, construct rtx is one of the better working ones

[keen rivet]

and not be in performance mode

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/issues/47

[keen rivet]

eye

lol looks like colour tinting isnt working either

huh

this wasnt all broken when i last used the thing

detail textures too

[subtle bison]

because the rtx.conf has changed

its nightly for a reason, shit breaks

i will get to it eventually

[keen rivet]

whaddya break?

wait so flashlight works on your end you said?

interesting

[quasi blaze]

wait i use the x64 version though

[keen rivet]

thats x64 yeah

[subtle bison]

i removed hardcoded runtime settings and moving them to rtx.conf now that it has the highest load order, im not done migrating everything yet

the new remix runtime changed a lot of stuff structurally

[keen rivet]

i see

ok

[quasi blaze]

that didn't work when i enabled it

[keen rivet]

interesting that breaks flashlight tho

[subtle bison]

im not talking about the flashlight

[keen rivet]

you have to disable perf mode for skybox to work

[subtle bison]

that's completely API based and that should be working fine

[keen rivet]

doesnt work for me

[quasi blaze]

then where do i even find the perf mode option?

[keen rivet]

which is why am confused

[keen rivet]

spawnmenu

[subtle bison]

i wont know until I'm home

but 16 hours ago when i pushed
https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/commit/0931b267161219c55b32d7988a7756fd82a8f36f

it was working

[subtle bison]

utilities

[quasi blaze]

but the main thing i'm worried about is the ui is.. what i'm describing is. it's broken when i am on the tools section are you going to fix that later?

[subtle bison]

huh?

[quasi blaze]

i showed it at the beginning

the spawnmenu looked broken until i went to utilities

[subtle bison]

could be an addon causing that?

idk

i dont remember ever seeing that myself with workshop addons disabled

[quasi blaze]

it could be on my end but anyways thanks for your help

[brittle token]

truman show looking ahh skybox

[brittle token]

damn those waffles are shiny

[subtle bison]

yeah runtime is messing up any api-added stuff because the physgun aint blue no mo 😤

ughhh i hate runtime updates

[potent agate]

does the auto pbr "just work" or is there more setup?

[subtle bison]

ye

you have to restart the game after loading a map on the 1st launch

so remix can see the generated mod

[potent agate]

sweet

that's actually so peak ngl

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet there might be a skill issue

completely clean install working ootb for me

[keen rivet]

wtf?

[subtle bison]

i was wrong about what i said earlier, all of the hardcoded stuff has been moved over already
i think most of your issues point to a rtx.conf issue, it explains the sky minz, lack of physgun color, color tinting not working.

https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/blob/main/garrysmod/rtx.conf

you can see for yourself

this is the rtx.conf that is used in nightly builds

[subtle bison]

and just to go a step further, wiped launcher cache and downloading the latest launcher nightly

[keen rivet]

hmmmmmmm

i was just using whatever rtx.conf was being downloaded by nightly

[subtle bison]

which is the one i sent 🙂

you can even check the nightly archive the launcher downloads

[keen rivet]

hmmmmmmmm

thats weird

[subtle bison]

verified it works on windows too

[subtle bison]

@brittle token SPR is fixed
https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/issues/54

[brittle token]

oh damn, nice

[subtle bison]

i've gated all topbr functions behind the main enable toggle so it doesnt randomly do it when it's turned off.
I also updated the menu with some information and remove some redundant settings the user doesnt need to see.

It's also off by default

[keen rivet]

topbr is.... the bad guy.......

😔

[subtle bison]

autocategorization is completely fixed now, particles (and physgun beam) rejoyce
https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/issues/50

[subtle bison]

until the random runtime freezes are fixed and per-material adjustments are implemented, i dont see a reason to keep it on by default

i would prefer the game be as stable as possible by default

[keen rivet]

Damn 😔

I never encountered runtime freezes

[subtle bison]

a few people on nv and amd have here

trust me, i will fix it, but my priority is the issues currently on the github
https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/issues

[lean hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/criminality-gif-11724812285094148112

[subtle bison]

i finally get to enjoy these beautiful AR2 tracers holy moly

spritecard backport is such a blessing fr 🙏

[keen rivet]

highly fair

[half viper]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1556264721&searchtext=ABYSS+watcher

how does the phase 2 of it look with fixed particles?

[weak ermine]

now try them at dark location

oops u don't have rr this gonna be look like shit

[compact blaze]

chell is so plasticy

ur using fsr 4 right?

[weak ermine]

interesting why

[subtle bison]

no, why would fsr4 have any effect on that

[weak ermine]

like

ur on amd

without rr

puk srenk

[livid rapids]

puk srenk

is puk srenk really just fart shit but russian

https://tenor.com/view/pissy-shitty-toby-fox-undertale-dog-doggo-gif-26106162

[weak ermine]

yes its like that

but instead pissy

idk farty

[weak ermine]

yes

waut a second

5 seconds slowmode?

why not 9 hours

[compact blaze]

because the visuals look bad and i want u to make sure ur using fsr 4

[weak ermine]

wait where's slowmod

is it was just in my mind

[livid rapids]

there was slowmode again for a bit

[compact blaze]

wait why arent u using fsr 4?

[weak ermine]

idk

why yes

[subtle bison]

because i dont have to?

i dont think fsr4 would make anything look better in that video

other than perceived clarity, but it sounds like you're talking about assets themselves

[compact blaze]

nah that was a seperate question

im talking about in general and u said before fsr 4 looks and runs better than xess

[subtle bison]

ah, well its a pita to get running on proton rn and the method to get it working aint worth it

[compact blaze]

pita?

[subtle bison]

pain in the ass

[weak ermine]

pitah

pitah

the horse is here

[compact blaze]

Does the dev plan on fixing that?

[subtle bison]

should be fixed in proton 11, but idk when that's coming out

at this rate it will be 2 more months 🥀

oh nvm i cant read

more like a year

[subtle bison]

💤 💤 💤 💤 so eeepy

https://tenor.com/view/cats-urik3852-gif-10932761478676456492

[weak ermine]

yeah

its time to go see dreams

for me

[half viper]

oh HELL YEAH

[subtle bison]

working as expected?

i never used this addon before

[onyx ridge]

i love it when people just remake/port stuff from games into other games

like with their exact original behaviour

[half viper]

it used to a have a big orange blobs as fire

[winter radish]

Replace the fire with remix particles then it’ll be peak

[subtle bison]

curse the radv driver

no emissive particles

[zealous narwhal]

I wonder how Gmod RTX performs now on my old PC which has the RTX 2060 SUPER 😭

[weak ermine]

big lose

[subtle bison]

probably not too bad? most of my time with remix was with my 2080 lol

i am legit considering to finance a 5080 🥀

get this amd garbage outta here

[weak ermine]

what

[subtle bison]

you heard me

[weak ermine]

mods r u sure this guy amd fanboy?

[subtle bison]

fuck this pos

[weak ermine]

100%

kinda dis

[subtle bison]

nvidia did nothing, the competition just shot themselves in the foot

[weak ermine]

and gusting

[weak ermine]

with a shotgun

[lean hatch]

Hello guys

[weak ermine]

i think its bed time

[lean hatch]

Is it

[weak ermine]

gn everyone

[subtle bison]

pls knock my out

[weak ermine]

🛌

[subtle bison]

of my misery

[lean hatch]

Gn

[subtle bison]

🛌

[lean hatch]

I gotchu

[winter radish]

Just use Windows

[subtle bison]

ah yes "PC rebooting driver crashes"

far better

might as well bring the 2080 out of retirement if i dont want to be broke

ok they do work but just not in super open spaces i guess 🥀

i asusme its because of no RR

🥀

ep2 particles are a little fucked 🥀

[lean hatch]

Woah

The triangle e

[subtle bison]

you can barely make out whatever its doing, but i assume the ep2 storm was meant to be rendered with shaders only so im not surprised its broken like this

wtf wow there are a lot of effects that show in voidplaces now that particles work

also i think this map got remastered recently, a lot of it looks different

also this map is completely broken with performance mode off lmao

i get mat_forcedynamic will fix it but the fps is already borderline unplayable and that would make it run worse

perf fork spirit lives on!!!! ❤️

[half viper]

@subtle bison for some reason it decided to change the particles material to transparent

quite literally glass

[subtle bison]

is this with topbr?

like does it show with enhancements off

[half viper]

yes

nope

its topbr fault

[subtle bison]

😤

[half viper]

is there a way i could reset it?

[subtle bison]

rn its just nuking the mod

really need to remove those glass keywords, xenthio why 😭

[half viper]

from here?

[subtle bison]

naw do it via file explorer

[keen rivet]

glass 😍

need better detection

OK BUT

it looks good when it works

so

😍

[subtle bison]

right but it needs to not affect stuff that isnt glass
https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/issues/52

1st pic in the issue lmao

eyerefract gets fucked

[keen rivet]

oh ist that because it has refract in shader name

LOL

if so, easy fix i think

[subtle bison]

dont use keywords? 🙂

[steel lark]

nooo

it doesn't even

most of the time it's SOO dark

i need to search and replace the diffuse color and make it white so that it isn't black all the time

i think one of the worst examples is the glass on minecraft maps because it's a full glass block

not related but the glass addon built in to remix is giving me errors sometimes

you can very faintly see it here

ohhhh wait

water is weird

here is the biggest glass block on the glass addon

it's so dark

[subtle bison]

iirc its because of refraction or whatever

we can enable thin-layer glass which will fix it but then bye bye cool refraction

[steel lark]

yeah i like the refraction but there's a small absorption value or smth, that if the glass is big enough makes it very dark

[subtle bison]

wish i could use the toolkit to figure out the right value... 😔

[steel lark]

problem is i can't change it with overrides in the rtx remix menu and i would have to do it manually everytime a new glass material is added to the folder

[quasi blaze]

i could use the toolkit

the only thing i have to be careful though is my Vram

it's capacity is 8gb

[steel lark]

i think if you just make it all 0s or all 1s it should be perfectly transparent

idk if you meant that or a middle ground

[subtle bison]

idk whatever looks best for all, or at least as close

if yall find it, pls let me know so i can set it up on the topbr side

[steel lark]

did you see this?

idk what this means

[subtle bison]

me neither

[quasi blaze]

i'm taking this seriously

i may have a powerful 4060 but there's no point of using it if i don't use it to make work so i'm using the toolkit

and even getting to blender

[steel lark]

i bet: color3f inputs:transmittance_color = (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) would work but i need to test it still

looks great from outside

and from inside

i don't know if transmittance is the problem with these tbh

[keen rivet]

well the thing is refract could come up as refract or refract_dx6 sooooooo

[steel lark]

@subtle bison is 3dsky not working anymore?

it's only making the gravity gun particles bug

[steel lark]

it seems it depends on the model topology??? (these are all the same material/replacement/hash for the glass)

[subtle bison]

?

[keen rivet]

when getting shader

[subtle bison]

is fixed in latest nightly

[keen rivet]

so just made it look for refract i think

[subtle bison]

(the gravity gun bug)

[subtle bison]

can we not avoid keywords at all?

surely there is a material parameter that defines it as reflective

[steel lark]

dope

ohhh

wait i am in the latest nightly

[subtle bison]

u sure?

https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/releases/tag/nightly

[steel lark]

huh

ooohhh yeah the nightly version still doesn't appear on the launcher (that i have installed)

(of the gmod rtx package)

this

i forgot it was called fixes package

[subtle bison]

x64 release isnt out yet, but is this gonna kill hw skinning lmfao

the timing is too perfect

🙏 i hope the sigs dont change

[brittle token]

set your nearest light_environment brightness to 10

https://tenor.com/view/rah-gif-14283880331149196129

[subtle bison]

gaw hell naw thats too bright

[onyx ridge]

but it's REAL

[weak ermine]

i have question

[weak ermine]

where's traced rays

like shadows are black

pitch black

[onyx ridge]

the shadows are raytraced

i used the raytracing to destroy the raytracing

[weak ermine]

cool and

[ionic cipher]

can't move my camera damn

[ionic cipher]

using this

[subtle bison]

switch to main, perf is dead and was merged to it

[ionic cipher]

k

same shit

[subtle bison]

you have to install the latest nightly of the rtx remix runtime package as well

[ionic cipher]

i'm kinda dumb, how to do it?

[subtle bison]

change this from where it says stable to nightly and press install

[zealous narwhal]

I ran Gmod RTX on my old PC, on gm_construct_rtx, performance is meh, only around 46 FPS, at ultra performance I can achieve 60 FPS with the CNN model.

gm_wawa has 30 FPS or less, even on performance mode, and the PC sounds like a jet engine about to take off, the RTX 2060 Super is dying running this 😭