Garry's Mod

[keen rivet]

it's a bunch of different things

Like it's in rtx.conf

Or something

[willow fog]

@subtle bison point lights be huge

[weak ermine]

make it small

[willow fog]

did

[weak ermine]

cr ur light balls kinda massive by default

[dusk wagon]

PLEASE CR I NEED THIS! my light balls are kinda massive....

[weak ermine]

🥀

[dusk wagon]

i live with my perf fork i wanna help gmod rtx

CR IM LOOKING AT YOUR STEAM PAGE WHY YOU TRYING NOT TO LAUGH

THATS DISRESPECTFUL AS SHIT bruh

[subtle bison]

huh?

[subtle bison]

are the map lights at their default settings? also are you using 0.2.0?

[willow fog]

Yes and yes

[subtle bison]

check the map in normal gmod, the API lights try to match the radius of the gmod ones

[weak ermine]

api lights huge by default

everywhere

[subtle bison]

that still doesnt sound right...

i tested a handful of maps before releasing 0.2.0 but please send me maps where they look big

[weak ermine]

every map

they're huge by default

[subtle bison]

are yall sure you reset the light settings by default

[weak ermine]

u fucking joking

🥀

[subtle bison]

the default radius is 9

or rather most are around that

what are you seeing in the remix light visualisation

you could try making a separate clean install to see if it looks normal as well

[weak ermine]

or just use slider

kinda big

huge

massive

[subtle bison]

yeah something is fucked

try a separate clean install

[weak ermine]

no

[subtle bison]

erm ok 🤓

[weak ermine]

I dont have time for that

[subtle bison]

this is coming in 0.3.0, remix api brainrot

[weak ermine]

ask burito for that

[weak ermine]

hell yeah

in toolgun screen

when u try to spawn api light

or on

idk

fuck english

hey spongeboby guy

try clean install

or its gonna be u

[keen rivet]

yeah they should have that IMO as its more realistic lol

light doesnt suddenly stop in real life

but thats an opinion

i dont have the reverse engineering skills for it i dont think :(

[steel lark]

infmap2 works already i'm pretty sure

[polar anchor]

Infmap maps work for the most part, just models and the flashlight visually are extremely far away from your view. Including the view legs from gmod legs3 dont appear underneath you

Also is there a sequel to infmap? Ive never seen infmap2

[steel lark]

yeah

[polar anchor]

When did it come out?

[steel lark]

idk

what?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1437169217659998271/1439614366596071544/caption.gif

[subtle bison]

should have wot, im confused

[subtle bison]

oops i mean this part

[keen rivet]

High radius

[subtle bison]

so when you mean lights suddenly stop, are you talking about clipping into the ground?

[keen rivet]

Oh wait do you mean radius like point size?

I fix that in gmod rtx by setting the scene scale to 0.38

The size of the actual light that makes more sense

[subtle bison]

changing the scene scale breaks other stuff, you can independently adjust the remix converted light radius btw

[subtle bison]

maybe? i mean radius as in physical size of the light

personally i think we should be trying to match the original source engine one as much as possible. The api lights are still physically accurate while doing this as well

but people can always replace them with manually authored lights

[keen rivet]

I set it to that because It is the conversation it asks for technically

Inch to cm

[keen rivet]

If it's not the max far the light can spread then nvm I was dumb, which it seems it wasn't

[subtle bison]

ah i get it now. API lights use remix's own attenuation method so yeah its a physically natural falloff

[subtle bison]

right but iirc nv_mark said the default setting is the one correct for source games

its what portal rtx uses

[keen rivet]

I thought it must've been, since yeah that

I can't remember why else I changed it personally?

I had some other reason I forgot

[subtle bison]

it does affect other things, so it probably fixed a specific issue for you? but not that i know of

[subtle bison]

took 3 hours but i have refactored most of my gmod-specific changes for remix to work on the latest master, we're fully up to date so we get the component and graph system

not pushing yet as i gotta make sure nothing broke

i've trimmed out a lot of things that got merged or are just not needed atm

[livid rapids]

We Believe

[subtle bison]

lmao

[weak ermine]

no

[lament dust]

PBR working good

[weak ermine]

ai generated

🤮

[lament dust]

This map is a pc killer

very compatible

[steel lark]

looks so slippery, isn't it supposed to be DUSTy?

[wispy crest]

it has no normals looks like

it's very flat, no bump maps

it looks slippery because there's no roughness either

I don't think it has pbr at all lol

[weak ermine]

its ai generated shit

thats why it looks like bullshit

[smoky otter]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DRYkUcxjOgh/?igsh=MWl6dmF0M3dycm0xNw==

Rtx this

[weak ermine]

do it urself

[onyx ridge]

i missed out on s&box going open source

[half viper]

Oh yeah

That happened

[compact blaze]

wdym it went open source?

oh nah its the finances

[onyx ridge]

no like

https://github.com/Facepunch/sbox-public

source 2 isn't open source i believe but this is like so much more than gmod providing just like

lua and stuff

[compact blaze]

oh shoot

how is there not a steam post of this

[onyx ridge]

pretty sure they are doing a blog post soon

[weak ermine]

isn't it offtopic

[livid rapids]

a little off-topicness doesn't hurt

[subtle bison]

gm gmod rtxians

[onyx ridge]

rtx remix s&box

[weak ermine]

cool

[dusk wagon]

guys make gmod rtx launcher but not for gmod for every dx9 game NOW

[weak ermine]

go fuck yourself

simple answer

for ur question

[dusk wagon]

[livid rapids]

why are you so mean... calm down....

Go my red tinted Nina

(the path tracer is making the redness of the cushion bounce off and hit nina)

[weak ermine]

never

[royal vortex]

it hard crashes for me

[subtle bison]

weird, i know it was working for a while

ill try it again in a bit

[weak ermine]

maybe vram

leak

ye ye guy with quadrillion gb of vram (and no rr) go test this map

[onyx ridge]

https://sbox.game/news/update-25-11-26

[subtle bison]

latest perf fork works fine

this is on a clean install

[weak ermine]

v

r

[subtle bison]

ill check normal gmod rtx

[weak ermine]

a

m

?

[subtle bison]

nah this map uses like no vram

[weak ermine]

i think

[subtle bison]

3GB total used for me?

[weak ermine]

it was

ski

iss

[subtle bison]

ah normal gmod rtx crashes

time to see why

[weak ermine]

big mac

map

[subtle bison]

nah i think its something with the binary module

[weak ermine]

its crashes on loading?

[subtle bison]

after loading, its ingame for like 2 sec and then dies

[weak ermine]

bcz i remember one map which crashes on loading

cs_m something

with ship

interesting is it fixed

or it still crashes

[subtle bison]

found the crash, it has to do with the patches that make hl2rtx model replacements work

yippee

maybe i can fix

[weak ermine]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=216206307&searchtext=cs_meridian

can u test this shit again

[subtle bison]

on normal gmod rtx?

[weak ermine]

on everything

bcz its crashed on loading

time ago

maybe magic exist

and this map works

works?

[subtle bison]

nah still trying to debug the crash on normal gmod rtx for gm_flux2, the studiorender patches are kinda fucked

[weak ermine]

okay

[subtle bison]

i think all of these gmod updates have messed up the signatures

i will fix that another day i guess, they're mostly for hl2rtx assets so maybe i can just put them behind a cvar

[weak ermine]

imagine gmod without updates

damn

[subtle bison]

@royal vortex tl;dr use perf fork for gm_flux2

[weak ermine]

why there's no beams from lamps or sun

[subtle bison]

huh?

[weak ermine]

like

sprites

[subtle bison]

normal gmod rtx stuck here

perf fork is the same

gets stuck

maybe recompile the map with a modern hammer

[subtle bison]

only reason they wouldnt be visible if those were ignored in the runtime

[weak ermine]

magic doesn't exist

💔

[subtle bison]

i think its more of a map issue

this is the 2nd old css map that gets stuck like this

[weak ermine]

somewhere in 200*: "lets compile this map with 'rtDeepshitbrokingrtxremix' for future guys"

[subtle bison]

you can try decompiling the map with something like bspsrc and then recompile it with gmod hammer

it might fix it

[weak ermine]

something on nerd language

burgers with books

instead of steak

[subtle bison]

today i try to fix my HDR implementation

[weak ermine]

which is first

[subtle bison]

uhh lemme see if i can remember

[weak ermine]

bro using all power of his brain to remember that one map

[subtle bison]

i cant 😭

[weak ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-on-i-got-a-meme-for-this-gif-4222686969936269875

💔

[subtle bison]

@sonic apex best tonemapper for HDR?

i need to remove my mangled ACES implementation for something better

[sonic apex]

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/blob/main/src/shaders/frostbite.hlsl

frostbite isn't the most accurate but it's kinda set and forget

also highly suggest skipping the local / global tonemapping built into remix and just use straight frostbite

[subtle bison]

UI brightness scaling is offical

i tried to record in HDR but OBS was being a bit fussy, hopefully it comes across correctly in SDR

[sonic apex]

Idk how fixable it is but I think remix might be applying the tonemapping to the ui

[subtle bison]

it doesnt

rasterized UI is passed straight to DXVK

and still is with these HDR changes

[sonic apex]

ahhh
Idk what I was seeing then lol

[subtle bison]

alphs blending is kinda broken

it might be that

[sonic apex]

yeah blending ui kinda breaks in hdr

pumbo has code for it I believe but idk where that would be

[subtle bison]

im currently treating black pixels as transparent which probably isnt the best thing to do

[sonic apex]

-# I really need sit down and how to figure out how to probably implement my tonemapping stuff lol
-# I've been just replacing remix's tonemapping with mine instead of building out another option which is really dumb

[weak ermine]

challenge to read that black fucking letters on black background with absolute minimum brightness

🥀

[wispy crest]

20% cooler
heh

[dense crow]

Has the GT7 Tonemapper been implemented yet?

[woeful phoenix]

Does AGX not just work? I'm using AGX in DM and it looks pretty much 1:1

[sonic apex]

agx doesn't support hdr

and from what I've been told it's not really a tonemapper
it's basically just an s curve look for between 0-1

[subtle bison]

it should, its mostly obvious for peaking highlights
#1116089843479498782 message
#1116089843479498782 message

[subtle bison]

finally implemented this

this vid should be in HDR

i think it looks good

these are the settings for the recording/my display

[sonic apex]

looks better than before
should set the paper white to 203 though

[subtle bison]

for any reason? i dont understand

[sonic apex]

350 is really bright lol
203 is the go to for 1,000 nit peak brightness

also what do you have max_value and rolloff_start set too?

[subtle bison]

hm? wdym?

[sonic apex]

the parameters in this function
https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/blob/7e06b24c5289b0934ee869ec042f3639ce9facf3/src/shaders/frostbite.hlsl#L37

[subtle bison]

for rolloff_start, 0.18
max_value is whatever the max nits is set for the display

ngl i still think im out of my depth on this a little bit, so if im doing this wrong please point it out

[sonic apex]

for max_value you want to do peak / paperwhite

[keen rivet]

lemme look on my phone

my phone is my favourite hdr monitor

iphone 17 pro max peak brightness of 3000 nits 😍

your text looks pretty bright, high paper white value?

getting mad that the software i made months ago doesnt work >:(

[subtle bison]

300 nits for the UI itself

[sonic apex]

-# 203 is also the suggested value for UI at 1,000 nits peak

[subtle bison]

yea i have it set to that now 👅

its also now the default

[sonic apex]

good lol

[subtle bison]

holy fuck this is bright

i set the max nits to 10000 so hopefully brighter phone screens can see how eye searing this is

i just watched this on my pixel 9 pro fold, holy shit

the frostbite tonemapper was the right choice

[sonic apex]

-# this an sdr video? hdr videos never work for me on mobile and this one does

[subtle bison]

its HDR, it shows to be HDR on my phone and other PC as well

[sonic apex]

interesting 🤔

[subtle bison]

try downloading the file

its av1 and some discord apps dont like it

[sonic apex]

oh that might be why it's actually playing lol

[subtle bison]

0:33 when im zooming into the light literally lights up my irl room

i gotta try this build on hl2rtx

[sonic apex]

have you commited the code to your repo?
wanna take a look at it

[subtle bison]

i can push it rq

its on a local branch atm

[sonic apex]

also do you have anything for hdr debug?
normally I use Lilium's reshade hdr analysis shader

[subtle bison]

yeah thats what i've been using, but i added two debug overlays in remix, heat map for luminance ranges, and peaking

@sonic apex https://github.com/sambow23/dxvk-remix-gmod/commit/bdb38cec2c1f7011819ddaa025dbd0fbb12cb999

[subtle bison]

i created a new horror game

[weak ermine]

eyes fuckage

i think its

limbo

lindo

lido

how the fuck its called

where u with pistol scans map

[subtle bison]

lidar

[weak ermine]

yes

lidar

but map already scanned

so its like

reinvention

[weak ermine]

life without rr

or eyes

[weak ermine]

rtx on papers

[weak ermine]

sick

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

HDRIs + HDR is so peak

i gotta record how this looks on my phone good lordy

[sonic apex]

a few things:

• I would only support hdr10 (bt2020 + pq) personally since dlss frame gen is only supported by hdr10 and bt2020 with hlg is technically apart of the hdr10 spec iirc but it's not really used in games
• I wouldn't prioritize R16G16B16A16_SFLOAT over A2B10G10R10_UNORM because I think that's technically against the hdr10 spec (hdr10 should be bt2020 + pq + A2B10G10R10_UNORM)

looks way better than what you had before though

[subtle bison]

yeah i plan to strip away a lot of that when I get it ready to be a PR

a lot of unused/old stuff is still left over and i havent cleaned it up

btw the frostbite tonemapper looks a lot like linear but with better highlight handling? but from what I have read, this is intentional as its not to be in the way of game color grading iirc?

[sonic apex]

yeah it's technically a "displaymapper"
displaymappers just roll off the highlights so that they fit the peak brightness of your display

It makes a lot more sense to use a displaymapper for remix imo because the games that remix targets don't usually tonemap at all

[subtle bison]

yeah true

[sonic apex]

like with renodx if a game doesn't tonemap we use displaymappers so that the artistic intent isn't altered

[subtle bison]

sure

[subtle bison]

its unfair how bad my g80sd monitor clips with HDR, gamestreaming HDR to my pixel phone looks so much better

[willow fog]

Bro has the doohickey phone

[subtle bison]

yuh

[willow fog]

I want one but they're fucking expensive

[subtle bison]

yeah, my 1st one had some kind of internal hw failure

i got my replacement for free but i am done with foldables after this one

[sonic apex]

feel like I would turn into an ipad adult if I had one

[subtle bison]

tbh i barely use the inner screen

its useful for work stuff when i need the extra space in a pinch but i usually carry a laptop with me for serious work

[sonic apex]

gta 4 with frostbite hdr when?

[modern quest]

aaaaaaa wait

imagine

✨ BF4 with Remix

[wispy crest]

isnt the directx level too high for that?

[subtle bison]

ye its dx11

[sonic apex]

but it has mantle
rtx remix for mantle when??

:p

[modern quest]

yeah, i just dream

[modern quest]

well, there is a mantle to vulkan wrapper 😆

lets modify it to be dx9!

[sonic apex]

lol

-# honestly the first time I'm hearing about mantle

[modern quest]

it was the predecessor to vulkan. AMD donated the Mantle code to help with Vulkan's development

[sonic apex]

oh
interesting

[modern quest]

ya

Vulkan is derived from and built upon components of AMD's Mantle API, which was donated by AMD to Khronos with the intent of giving Khronos a foundation on which to begin developing a low-level API that they could standardize across the industry.[17]

In 2015, Mantle's public development was suspended and in 2019 completely discontinued, as DirectX 12 and the Mantle-derived Vulkan rose in popularity.[4][5][6][7]

[sonic apex]

idk why but I always thought vulkan was built off of opengl

[modern quest]

vulkan was developed by the same group that maintained opengl

[sonic apex]

ahh

[modern quest]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khronos_Group

[willow fog]

Let's see what's going on in gmo... oh.

[modern quest]

https://github.com/libcg/grvk

[royal vortex]

ah so its not me or my mods, good to know lmao

what

i clicked on this USDA button and then this window came up

how do i install the perf fork again?

[subtle bison]

via the setup, but do it in a new folder

[subtle bison]

i think its a bug with the vgui theme, clicking yes just confirms to install the hl2rtx usda fixes

[royal vortex]

thats it?

i thought it was harder lmao

[subtle bison]

there is an option to select the perf fork as the preferred version

provided you have the latest launcher

[royal vortex]

if i mind to ask, whats the difference between perf and normal

[subtle bison]

perf doesnt use culling patches or model fix patches (for hl2rtx replacements), it instead disables a lot of engine rendering pipelines and re-renders them with custom versions made in lua. It runs a lot faster than normal gmod rtx

[royal vortex]

oh awesome

[subtle bison]

it has its own downsides and features which are listed here

https://github.com/sambow23/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed-perf
https://github.com/sambow23/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed-perf/wiki/Known-issues

[royal vortex]

i forgor how to install gmod rtx 💀

like in a new folder

without overriding the old install

[subtle bison]

drop the launcher in there, run as admin, go through setup

[subtle bison]

this is why you do in a seperate folder, the perf fork will conflict with normal gmod rtx

[royal vortex]

i made a new folder.

hang on lemme DM you for this

[subtle bison]

guh

[royal vortex]

i think i just paste that .zip in there?

its been awhile since ive done this lol

[subtle bison]

no, download the latest rtx launcher exe, drop it in that folder, run as admin, follow the setup

[royal vortex]

oh the exe lol

i cannot find the linkto the rtx launcher anywhere

is it this

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed

[royal vortex]

alr im doin it

this correct?

[subtle bison]

yeah

[royal vortex]

and i run quick install?

[subtle bison]

yep thats it

[royal vortex]

wait i had preoblems running it without admin privledges

should i use administrator?

[subtle bison]

yes

[royal vortex]

ok i did it

now i think im done

thanks @subtle bison

wait can i take my rtx.conf from the non perf fork and add it to perf?

or whatever files used for saving changes made to rtx gmod

like textures or volumetrics and stuff

[subtle bison]

yeah, the rtx.conf for perf is a little newer so there might be issues using yours from normal gmod rtx

but try it i guess

[royal vortex]

ill just skip that for now and see if i can load up flux 2

[subtle bison]

should be able to

[royal vortex]

yupi can!

wait uuuuuh

[subtle bison]

i would read the known issues link i sent a bit earlier btw, there are some things that are different with the perf fork

[royal vortex]

its just stuck on the loading screen lol

[subtle bison]

you probably have an addon causing the game to freeze

[royal vortex]

yeah

probably mw weapons or somerthing

[subtle bison]

nah its usually sweps for other valve games

read this

https://github.com/sambow23/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed-perf/wiki/Problematic-Addons

[royal vortex]

Ok it's my mods

Even on perf fork it crashes loading flux 2

[subtle bison]

did you try having flux 2 as the only enabled addon?

i can try flux2 on the perf fork again rq but im pretty sure it still works fine

[royal vortex]

i'll try that

it worked

my game looks weird

ALSO FUCKING RESHADE

i literally cannot get rid of it

where is my playershadow

this map is trippy af

i dunno why i have no playermodel shadow

[subtle bison]

you gotta enable pseudoplayer and reload the map

[royal vortex]

ah

[weak ermine]

its like

year

and people still can't understand that if u need playermodel shadow u need to enable it

even more than year

[subtle bison]

fixed some nasty GC leaks due to bucket table allocations in material sorting in custom render
tl;dr frametimes should be super smooth now

was a pita to find until i added some profiling tools to render core, the addon in charge of the other custom render addons. I dont feel as motivated to replace world rendering with remix api meshes now 🤓

@night bramble this was probably what was causing your frametime issues

[compact blaze]

what map is this?

[subtle bison]

gm_flux2

[compact blaze]

hm

is this normal, im on the latest perf patch on a clean install no addons

ya props seem to be culling

[weak ermine]

issue skill

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/sambow23/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed-perf/wiki/Known-issues

you need to enable entity anti culling

[compact blaze]

That’s not enabled by default?

still culls even at max setting

[subtle bison]

no, it causes performance issues

[subtle bison]

its not foolproof when inside interiors

[compact blaze]

ah ok

[onyx ridge]

april fool!

[subtle bison]

its a very far away RT camera so it tries to capture everything in the map, but if a wall is behind a prop, it doesnt work too well.
hopefully i can figure something out for that

[onyx ridge]

[subtle bison]

many months away 🤓

[onyx ridge]

exactly

you've just been FOOLED

[subtle bison]

🙀

you got me

[weak ermine]

damn

so funny

i laughed

[compact blaze]

so nothing like how portal rtx does anti culling?

[subtle bison]

portal rtx and normal gmod rtx use engine modifications to disable culling, but at the expense of performance overall

perf fork has to use other methods that prevent the engine from being overwhelmed, especially for larger maps like voidplaces

static props and world geometry use custom renderers so culling is minimal there. Anything rendered by the engine will still cull unless that anti culling option is on

this is why i dont whole-heartedly recommend perf fork over normal gmod rtx, it might be more faster and stable, but its more prone to visual issues

[subtle bison]

newest remix runs a lot worse wtf

im getting over 40 less fps compapred to the remix version we currently use in gmod rtx

[sonic apex]

time to do a binary search on the commits

[subtle bison]

yeah

thankfully its not too many

my guess its the component graph system but i will find out soon enough

[subtle bison]

now that i have downgraded to a faster remix version, these frametime spikes are back YAY

as far as i can tell, rendering thousands of meshes via lua is really stressing out the garbage collection which is why these spikes happen. I've removed any leaks from my end, so i think we're running into a engine limit at this point

so i guess remix api meshes are back on the table 🙁

[stark ether]

Literally had to close my eyes watching this on my iPad Pro

Looks amazing though

[weak ermine]

feel like i watched on a sun

and my eyes burned

cool shadows btw

very

cool

[willow fog]

ez ssg

[quiet scroll]

Is anyone else able to upgrade to the development stage? I keep getting this error

[weak ermine]

i think u need to be cr or xenthio

[subtle bison]

i've never tested that

i just download it straight from GH

i dont think there is anything in the github action builds that isnt in the latest launcher release as well

[dusk wagon]

https://github.com/Xenthio/RTXLauncher/raw/refs/heads/master/RTXLauncher/bin/Release/net8.0-windows/win-x64/publish/RTXLauncher.exe i looked in source code im so cool

this is the url for it

im so cool

[subtle bison]

uhh no that is just a publish folder from visual studio

you download github action builds from here
https://github.com/Xenthio/RTXLauncher/actions/runs/18543471565

but like i said, this commit is already in the latest release

https://github.com/Xenthio/RTXLauncher/releases/tag/v1.1.1

[dusk wagon]

but but but

[subtle bison]

lmao

[dusk wagon]

anyways i got this build

it has dev in it so

it should be cool

[royal vortex]

i used the perf fork yesterday and noticed all my data (from addons, like my HUDs) wernt carried over to the perf fork, how would i move said data from my non perf fork version to the perf fork?

[royal vortex]

why does the water look different?

[livid rapids]

Move the folders from the addons you want inside garrysmod/data

And the cl.db file

[dense crow]

so no tonemapper but YES api lights?

hell yeag

[compact blaze]

hi

[weak ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[sonic apex]

wdym no tonemapper?

[subtle bison]

the gt7 tonemapper

it looks really good, i still havent gottern arounf to looking into it tho 😭

[weak ermine]

gaytracing7 tonemapper

[sonic apex]

we need fishmap smh
-# main renodx guy has been toying with tonemapping based off of human vision
-# we call it fishmap for reasons

[dense crow]

oh I forgot you see the value in it already sorry

I was basically spamming every once in a while to kinda like

virtue signal GT7

[weak ermine]

humanmap

imagine if develper of this tonemapper colourblind

[sonic apex]

-# the math initially came from a paper on the cones in fish eyes lol

[royal vortex]

where are all my rtx api lights

[onyx ridge]

where ?

[livid rapids]

I still don't see it

[royal vortex]

oh, i forgot theat they're in the tool menu

also i fucked up my flashlight and i dunno the og settings, please add a default preset so i can go back to the original settings.

these are my settings

[subtle bison]

set the radius to under 10

[royal vortex]

thanks

[royal vortex]

mounted hl2 rtx stuffs onto gmod perf fork, now it hard crashes when i load into ravenholm

what the fuck

[royal vortex]

why do my meshes look like this

[subtle bison]

this just means the UVs of the mesh dont match the texture replacement

[royal vortex]

ah

i just unmounted it for now

[subtle bison]

I know hl2rtx content in general doesnt play nice with the perf fork but i dont remember crashes, ill mess with it tomorrow

oh btw general disclaimer to anyone in this channel, normal gmod rtx is broken atm

rubat pushed something and one of the patches we apply now instantly crashes the game after loading a map

haven't looked into it yet but i will tomorrow

[royal vortex]

it was some of my mods.

[weak ermine]

finally

rubat trying destroy our gmod rtx

[subtle bison]

normal gmod rtx now gets the custom static prop renderer for optional performance

i hate to admit it but this negates the need for the perf fork since you get the best of both worlds, no weird entity culling while still being able to regain a lot of lost perf on large maps

[subtle bison]

expanded the help section, hopefully this declares some of the pitfalls with SPR

the very definition of peak

auto-categorization now works for displacements and map decals

[willow fog]

Legacy emissives when?

[subtle bison]

oh shit i need to try that next

not automatic yet but it worky

[weak ermine]

sick

[subtle bison]

vmt for that light

"$selfillum" 1

thank you valve for making this a flag, this will make things very easy

[subtle bison]

😊

gotta test it in a few more places but i think it works

this is with no rtx.conf btw

AHH ITS SO PEAK

[weak ermine]

thats peak

[willow fog]

Try out that one parkour map that I showed you

The one with lots of billboards and screens

[subtle bison]

me forgor

got a link or name?

i think i know of a surf map that uses the fuck out of emissives tho

[weak ermine]

i think cyberpunk maps have quadrillion emissives

[subtle bison]

sorta works

[compact blaze]

beautiful

[subtle bison]

got an example?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3594394752

maybe this lol

[livid rapids]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094710017
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3110660376
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3426691611
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3176312318
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3256304807
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3270289847

Have fun!

He reuses assets tho so a couple maps have the same signs

[subtle bison]

mono_market, works perfectly

i turned off all map lights to show what got marked

[livid rapids]

THIS FUCKER

[subtle bison]

lol wdym, it works

[livid rapids]

I never saw the lights

In fact a long time ago I think they were untextured drawcalls

Now I just see the model without the lights

[subtle bison]

ipari_transit

the only issue is the vending machine being fullbright but i assume its marked emissive in the VMT but the vtf lacks an alphamap to mask it

i can modify the runtime to disable legacy emissive for textures that dont have/use the alpha channel to mitigate that

oops i reuploaded the same vid

[livid rapids]

Yeah source treats no alpha as full black

So not illuminated

[subtle bison]

yeah i guess someone at valve forgot to remove "$selfillum" 1 for that vending machine

[livid rapids]

um

it MIGHT be a problem on your side

[subtle bison]

guh

i know it works fine on cs_office

just not this map

[livid rapids]

see if anything's replacing materials/models/props/cs_office/vending_machine.vtf

with the whereis command

[subtle bison]

i dont even have to do that, i have a remix reverse search where i can find the material by pasting the remix hash

it makes that super simple now

[livid rapids]

oh yeah hashes

maybe it's not the same texture since it was probably bundled with the map

[subtle bison]

i just realized this isnt the same vending machine lol

[livid rapids]

💀

[subtle bison]

huh

[livid rapids]

changed the texture but forgot the alpha

[subtle bison]

yeah looks like im just gonna modify the runtime

i dont wanna fuck with the texture

[livid rapids]

Gone

[subtle bison]

maybe its ignored?

could be one of the many 1x1 white textures

[livid rapids]

it is.......

it's 16x16

[subtle bison]

oh

[livid rapids]

A7C1FE600F5A81D7

[subtle bison]

hmm

oh

[subtle bison]

wonder why the hash is different

im on ipari still but its the same model

yeah even on the metro map its still different guh

[livid rapids]

de_train/hr_t

csgo moment!

[subtle bison]

you can tell mw3 tokyo doesnt use alpha maps

[livid rapids]

tokyo night also has a broken skybox!

[subtle bison]

does it use a shader skybox?

[livid rapids]

Honestly don't know

hdri came in clutch for that

the day one works but I think that's a normal skybox

[subtle bison]

👁️

a lot slower than my 9070 but it would be nice to have a nv card for testing

[weak ermine]

no fucking

way

60 series is fucking dogshit

even if it have 48298272gb vram

[subtle bison]

yeah i agree but the price is pretty good lol

its like 10% faster than my 2080 so thats ass but the vram is good

[weak ermine]

imagine

idk

[compact blaze]

ur 20 series card

[wind yoke]

Omg performance shrinkflation

I remember 60s cards slaying but now they're keeping them back 3 gens

[subtle bison]

naw its at my old place im too lazy to get it 😭

[compact blaze]

hopefully artifacts like this are normal during the process

[subtle bison]

i have never seen anything like that

im gonna put that on my "nvidia driver bug" bingo card

[subtle bison]

@willow fog witness peak

[willow fog]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[royal vortex]

this is real life. you're lying

[dusk wagon]

send it to ai claiming its real life

works on grok

[subtle bison]

my envy knows no bounds

gmod 10 from 2007 in dx6 mode

everything fucking works including eyes

i didnt have to patch anything

[steel lark]

she's so cross-eyed lmao

[subtle bison]

3dsky also works 🥀

look what they took from us

[compact blaze]

Was res u using here?

[subtle bison]

1440p

[compact blaze]

Path tracing at 1440p native?

[subtle bison]

no

ultra perf

here is native lol

lights dont seem to work which is really weird

you'd think they would since this is entirely fixed function

blud is on some shi 🥀

[compact blaze]

I wanna ask is there a way to change the upscaler’s sharpness in remix?

Like dlss sharpness

[subtle bison]

not currently

[compact blaze]

Do they plan on it?

[subtle bison]

i mean i can add it to xess but idk about dlss

[compact blaze]

I do notice when using dlss the more modes I go down the blurrier it gets

[subtle bison]

optionally you could also use lossless scaling or reshade to add FSR1 or CAS sharpening

that would be the easiest route

[subtle bison]

for doing almost nothing other than adding remix, this shit works too well 😭

[compact blaze]

Switch development to gmod 10

[compact blaze]

if gmod now still has dx6 mode how much easier would everything be

[subtle bison]

dx6 sort of still exists but a lot of stuff is broken

[compact blaze]

Like what?

[subtle bison]

spritecard particles, npc eyes, etc

[half viper]

cant you just copy stdshaderdx6 from it?

[subtle bison]

i can try but im pretty sure its not gonna work because of linking issues

this is source 2006 and modern gmod is on some csgo/sdk2013 hybrid rlmao

ok nvm i dont have 32-bit gmod installed and im not gonna change branches on steam

ill try copying it to hl2rtx

it just hangs indefinitely when launching

[half viper]

isnt there a repo for garry's mod reverse engineering?

and a RULE 6 repo of source 2006

[subtle bison]

i already ported eyerefract to dx6 but the issue is studiorender doesnt send anything to the FF backend anymore

so thats why you get static eyes on gmod x32 with the portal rtx dlls

there needs to be a lot of engine work to get eyes working under FF again

[subtle bison]

yes i have it already

[steel lark]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-smirking-baby-newborn-baby-smirk-gif-8234646203340356336

peak

[steel lark]

me when i'm born (gmod rtx exists)

[subtle bison]

particle auto-tagging

im going to try to make this one continuous so it automatically adds stuff as you play

its not perfect but i can definitely see us removing texture hashes from the rtx.conf if this can be further polished 😊

[willow fog]

fucking fire

[willow fog]

Bro is barely clinging to life

Not a very nice gif

makes me sad

[subtle bison]

u didnt see the end lmao

[willow fog]

I did

still

baby prolly wasn't supposed to born

this is a better baby

https://tenor.com/view/james-ai-baby-black-and-white-tuff-gif-8917036030641276405

fuck

I love this

[subtle bison]

ABSOLUTELY
FUCKING
COOKING

i moved auto-tagging to the binary module and it INSTANTLY marks any particles

its so perfect... holy fuck...

this massively lowers the barrier of entry for new remix users since the game does all of the tagging for you, I still havent saved to a rtx.conf yet,

[willow fog]

CR is a gift that keeps on giving.

[subtle bison]

i think the last thing is to wire up the physgun color to the ingame setting

should be easy now that we have bi-directional hash checking 😎

[subtle bison]

legacy emissives now also auto-tagged in realtime

[weak ermine]

peak

now fix eyes, 3d skybox on per fork and other staff

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[subtle bison]

3d sky is fucked on normal gmod rtx so not soon lol

i get driver crashes every time i enable it as well

[weak ermine]

skill issue

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet u seeing this peak shit?
#1116089843479498782 message
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i think at this point we never need to mark textures again

i've accounted for everything

[sonic apex]

would you be able to auto tag everything that isn't particles or ui?

[subtle bison]

wdym?

it already auto-tags what needs to be tagged, anything else is untouched

thank god for vmt params

[sonic apex]

I was just curious about Halo because you have to ignore transparency on all of the bsp textures

get's really annoying after a while lol

[subtle bison]

transparency as in detail textures?

im out of my element with halo but thats what it sounds like to me

they're transparent overlays to add extra grit to textures

[sonic apex]

halo uses the alpha channel in textures for things besides transparency so a ton of the textures have an alpha value baked and are rendered as transparent in remix but they aren't rendered by the normal renderer

[subtle bison]

i assume nothing can be done on the game-side?

[sonic apex]

no idea tbh
I haven't looked at the ancient mod tools

[subtle bison]

holy emissive

biggest benefit is that you no longer have to hunt down each frame of a flipbook texture fucking finally

[weak ermine]

holly fuck lois

[quiet scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/icarly-flash-light-blind-gif-24733036

Holy peak

[keen rivet]

peak

[dusk wagon]

try and somehow mount hl2 rtx on this

[royal vortex]

omg finally, this is fucking huge

[royal vortex]

will this unmark any textures that were using the "worldspace UI texture" for emisives? Almost all half life 1 emissive get tagged with that, will it unmark WSUI and replace it with legacy emissive?

[subtle bison]

yeah world space ui will not be utilized

good chance we are no longer going to ship a rtx.conf at all next release

I will migrate the rest of the required runtime settings to the compat mod itself

[royal vortex]

nice.

[livid rapids]

@subtle bison any progress on making remix ignore color changes on fake pbr textures?

[subtle bison]

you mean the texture stage stuff?

[livid rapids]

yeah

if you're gonna detect the envmap proxy, arc9 and mw base have different proxy names

[subtle bison]

ill see what i can figure out

ill probably have to make a texture category to ignore texture stages for

and i guess add a check if the current weapon the player is using is mwb or arc9 and see if it can auto determine the hash without vmt info

it sounds plausible but i will find out sooner or later

[brittle token]

possibly the weirdest bug i've seen yet in gmod rtx

https://tenor.com/view/inception-city-inception-gif-11971412969097839546

[subtle bison]

ah yes the mirror entity

wonder how it got past the remover script

[half viper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFflhrxnX2c

xenthio spotted in my recommendations

[subtle bison]

a wild xenthio spotted

[brittle token]

i think the map was dm_sunburst

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3611388549

[subtle bison]

working on a global solution for other parts of a map showing in the skybox...
also counts as a performance enhancement 🤓

[livid rapids]

Thank god 🙏

[royal vortex]

[Crowbar Swoosh]

[royal vortex]

no way gm_flux will look good now!

[keen rivet]

hi

[keen rivet]

hi

[onyx ridge]

holy shit xenthio in my Garry's Mod forum post

[brittle token]

API lights galore

[willow fog]

If only I could bonemerge them

[subtle bison]

🔜

[royal vortex]

how do you install the HDRI thingy

[weak ermine]

very

ca...

[royal vortex]

found a tutorial im good

gm_construct_remastered doesnt crash now

[subtle bison]

rfully...

[royal vortex]

ok so the ui is here but the hdri's arent working

[weak ermine]

refully*

[royal vortex]

i click the numbers and they dont appear

does it work on the perf fork?

[subtle bison]

if you're on the perf fork, they dont work yet. I have fixed it but I haven't pushed it

[royal vortex]

aw damn

[subtle bison]

i should be able to now, I've just forgot about it

[royal vortex]

lol its fine

[subtle bison]

naw im doing it rn otherwise my adhd ass will forget again

[weak ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotize-gif-18017563854157472082

forget about that

[subtle bison]

gm gmod rtx chat

fine weather we're having

[weak ermine]

ez

now

give me ur rx9070

i mean yeah good weather

[subtle bison]

wdym, i have a rtx 2080

have the culling patches for x64 been released yet

[weak ermine]

poor soul

🙏

[subtle bison]

bro reverted me to the beginning of the year

[weak ermine]

ah shit

here we go again

[royal vortex]

yay i fixed the sun in this map

[subtle bison]

ye the 3d skybox blocks out the map light

same goes for normal construct

[royal vortex]

So is the light below the skybox?

[subtle bison]

above

this has been a longtime issue

im working on some runtime changes to hopefully fix it for good

[royal vortex]

but is the remix api light below the skybox? because if it isnt then how is the light going thru the skybox

[subtle bison]

depends, how did you fix it? did you spawn a distant light or use a HDRI? the original light is above the 3d skybox, so its casting a shadow over the main map

[royal vortex]

spawned a "distant" api light

[subtle bison]

then it's positioned wherever you're pointing it at

[royal vortex]

basically the "distant" api light is like the sun editor

[subtle bison]

its not, its spawning a 2nd distant light

[royal vortex]

yeah but im talking about how you can move the sun around like the sun editor

[subtle bison]

ah yeah in that case yes

[royal vortex]

pretty cool!

im loving the new lights

really good work CR.

[subtle bison]

ty

[royal vortex]

yw

i also love the legacy emissive

[subtle bison]

it only gets better in the next update

[royal vortex]

ooo?

[subtle bison]

everything is auto-tagged so no more manually hunthing those down

[royal vortex]

no way

[subtle bison]

#1116089843479498782 message
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[royal vortex]

omg i wont have to do host_timescale 0.1 and mark every frame of a gif in a map now

[subtle bison]

yeah even your playermodel for pseudoplayer and weapon are also automatically marked

[royal vortex]

will these cull stuff behind them?

[subtle bison]

not exactly, its just blocking any rays from hitting that object and creates a portal for the sky camera

so its basically a sky passthrough

[royal vortex]

so then whats the "sky texture" one?

[subtle bison]

some objects still casts shadows through it so it needs work, but it hides the actual map geo

[royal vortex]

oh sick.

will these automatically get tagged too? like for gm_flux 2?

[subtle bison]

nah, im going to create meshes where NODRAW materials are located and give them a unique texture and mark as an occluder, so it should be just like how it is in source

[royal vortex]

oh awesome.

[subtle bison]

@royal vortex try this
https://github.com/sambow23/hdri_editor/releases/tag/v0.4.2

this wont work for normal gmod rtx until i push out 0.9.0

@willow fog i think you also wanted this? working hdri for perf fork

[willow fog]

Tru dat

[subtle bison]

lmk if it does/doesnt work

i cant remote into my pc to verify

[livid rapids]

Testing on my brother's 4060 man I need FG NOW

[weak ermine]

or better gpu

4060 is trash

imagine having blurred as fuck 60 fps gameplay

with latency of turtle

[keen rivet]

hi

[compact blaze]

*boneworks

[half viper]

https://tenor.com/view/nullrat-my-beloved-nullrat-my-beloved-boneworks-bonelab-gif-27053815

[willow fog]

Beat it with hammers

[half viper]

:(

dont hurt nullrats

you MONSTER

[willow fog]

Fuck them. Ugly little dumb things

Toss null rats off roofs

[onyx ridge]

boneowkrs?

i sure hop it does

https://tenor.com/view/bonelab-ford-pet-gif-11543216792580548416

it'll be weird like 20 years in the future when i'm playing bonelab again with rtx remix 4d which makes any unity game released before 2034 look realer than real life and adds full tactile sensations and directly beams your thoughts of movement into games

[stark ether]

CR is gonna make all of that happen

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/gulp-cat-gulp-cat-glup-gif-15153676090462428175

[livid rapids]

Correct

[livid rapids]

Incorrect

I wouldn't use fg under 40-50 fps

But I've used fsr3 fg on bo6 and it's actually good

First impressions are dlss fg has noticeably less blur than fsr

[onyx ridge]

i use fg at like 10 fps and i don't mind it 😭

like i can tell it's more sluggish but it's not unplayably sluggish

i wouldn't try a competitive shooter like that (not that i play those) but for just messing about and looking at the pretty lighting it's fine

[willow fog]

https://youtu.be/UDDHaoHkWJU

This guy's voice is so calming

[dusk wagon]

nightmare nightmare nightmare

[livid rapids]

Yeah in a competitive setting it's nerfing yourself (specially with fsr3fg latency) but I use it on zombies and now endgame and it's fine

[polar anchor]

Lights MIGHT be a bit powerful xD

and yes. that is a beta skybox

[subtle bison]

hmm weird im pretty sure i fixed these in 0.2.0

[polar anchor]

Welp made it freeze bruh

i aint about to reboot it, since it takes like 15 mins to get back in

[subtle bison]

if it takes 15 mins to load into a game i think you have too many addons enabled lmao

[polar anchor]

i could never bro

only a few

[subtle bison]

i mean you could disable the ones you dont need ingame

[polar anchor]

Granted some of them are disabled, but how many of those are maps and playermodels

314 of those are maps

[subtle bison]

lmao

whoops my message sent out of order

ty upload speed

[subtle bison]

ok nvm these are fucked,

[polar anchor]

i broke tfa weapons somehow, gotta find a fix

[polar anchor]

my lights are fucked in general

light what the hell is that bro

[subtle bison]

the easy fix for glide is to crank down the radius like this

[polar anchor]

I have dark spots in some of my map lights

I dont know what that random light circle is from

[subtle bison]

do your settings match this?

[polar anchor]

I dont know, let me check

just had an epifany, maybe i should boot without workshop to check settings xD

[subtle bison]

booting without workshop wont fix the lights

[polar anchor]

i know

Just so that i can get in faster to check what settings i have

[subtle bison]

ah

[onyx ridge]

i mean would it not be possible one of the million addons are messing with lights

[polar anchor]

hmm it got stuck on ready to play, gotta reboot

[polar anchor]

no they dont

[subtle bison]

maybe? but i really doubt it, their issue just looks like the default values are off

[subtle bison]

click tthe reset buttons

[polar anchor]

l4d map didnt really..... work

[onyx ridge]

oh also is there a lua api for doing remix things

[subtle bison]

yes

[subtle bison]

we have full api integration except for mesh creation, the game can even automatically mark textures just by the source material name, which is coming in the next update

[onyx ridge]

docs when

[subtle bison]

none yet

[willow fog]

update when?

[polar anchor]

what are you thinking of creating?

[willow fog]

docs

[polar anchor]

Source 2 update when?

[subtle bison]

trying to get 0.3.0 for perf fork, and 0.9.0 for normal gmod rtx today if i dont run into any personal stuff

[onyx ridge]

nothing in mind i was mostly curious

[willow fog]

tomorrow

[subtle bison]

i've finished mostly everything

[polar anchor]

that game is TRASH

has literally 0 of what I use Gmod for

[onyx ridge]

make it yourself then

[willow fog]

roblos 2

[polar anchor]

I dont think it is possible

Atleast not yet. Either way I got 0 coding knowledge and ai aint that far yet to make mods for s&box

[subtle bison]

ai is very far enough for that

[onyx ridge]

it's open source i have no idea what you're wanting

[subtle bison]

also s&box uses c# for all third-party stuff so its absolutely possible to remake gmod in source 2

[onyx ridge]

they're working on the sandbox mode now that they have most of the engine in place

[polar anchor]

Basically gmod 1 to 1, in source 2. That is all I ever wanted from facepunch. Not roblox in source

[onyx ridge]

even the unfinished one had spawnables and maps and tools

[subtle bison]

flux2 my beloved

[willow fog]

kinda broken

[subtle bison]

how so

[polar anchor]

Once i can download mods and custom weapon bases and play hl2 with those mods, then i would like s&box.

[subtle bison]

i think a texture is ignored there

its one of those 16x16 white ones

[onyx ridge]

afaik first two are a thing

[willow fog]

Again with the huge fucking lights

[subtle bison]

guh this is fixed on 0.2.0

[onyx ridge]

last one is 100% possible but i don't know if they're going to do it officially or leave it up to the community

[willow fog]

I'm on 0.2

[onyx ridge]

(there's like an entire thing for creating custom setups for mounting other games, even non-source ones)

[subtle bison]

then there is a cvar causing the scale multiplier to be too high, lemme check

@willow fog can you type the command like this and sent a screenshot like mine

[subtle bison]

i see it lol

change those to match mine and reload the map

[willow fog]

okay just send me the default config

[subtle bison]

default config already has it for 0.2.0 but it wont override something already set

those values are prob from 0.1.0

[polar anchor]

I saw that, though arent those just models? Id like a way for the weapons and npcs to work if possible. And on that playable hl2 note, i think it will be up to the community. Hopefully vavle wont shutter it like tf2 source 2 project

[onyx ridge]

if they go the custom mounting route valve wouldn't need to bother

here's to hoping someone makes an rtx renderer for s&box

[subtle bison]

someone already added raytracing to s&box

one of the main devs

[onyx ridge]

[subtle bison]

lemme see if i can find the pic

[willow fog]

mmm