Garry's Mod

[turbid barn]

because they're looks nice and.. Orbifold already made a great job

[subtle bison]

depends on who ports them

[earnest yew]

cinematic mod

[subtle bison]

i want to avoid using workshop versions at all because the engine is just gonna be bottlenecked out of its fuckin mind

vert limit hell

[earnest yew]

hl2 rtx pack 1

hl2 rtx pack 2

hl2 rtx pack 3

hl2 rtx pack 4

hl2 rtx pack 5

hl2 rtx pack 6

[subtle bison]

hl2 rtx pack 99 pt2

[earnest yew]

YOU NEED TO SUBSCRIBE TO ALL OF THEM

[lapis delta]

https://tenor.com/view/fumo-fumofumo-touhou-maribel-hearn-maribel-gif-2631725927740300626

[turbid barn]

• Make a collection
• accidentally press "change my subscribes"

Then we loose all our 500+ addons, but we have 8K PBR Albedo RTX HL2 Remix assets

[earnest yew]

how i genuinely wonder how much the engine will lag cause of all the highpoly models n materials

[subtle bison]

considering how hard it was to stay under the vert limit for the custom world renderer...
trust me its gonna suck

especially if you load a map full of the replaced assets

rip engine

[earnest yew]

cinematic 12

[compact blaze]

Tbh I forgot why remix can’t replace models in gmod

[turbid barn]

btw, why Remix has only dx8/9 games support, if it still replaces them to Vulcan? So there is no Vulcan games support

[earnest yew]

fixed function

[subtle bison]

some can be

as long as they arent skinned (ragdolls, npc's, deformable props)

so foliage can easily be replaced

like trees

[earnest yew]

remix only works with dx8/9 cuz it hooks into their old fixed-function pipeline and shader stuff, then swaps it to vulkan. dx10+ changed a lot, made everything more programmable, so remix can’t really intercept and replace things the same way

[compact blaze]

Cause it’s cpu skinned in gmod?

[subtle bison]

yea

need a king david miracle to fix it

[turbid barn]

yup, that's makes sense. So it's not works with Vulcan games, because it's hooks to dx8/9 first, and only then replaces to Vulcan?

[compact blaze]

I pray someone can engine hack gmod to support gpu skinning

[turbid barn]

[turbid barn]

And some shouldn't be replaced

[subtle bison]

i pray someone can remove culling entirely

[subtle bison]

its funny because their earlier posts for grigori looked great

[compact blaze]

Tbh he never looked great

[subtle bison]

so do we just beg valve for the original facemap but 4K?

lol

[compact blaze]

And this looks like it was rendered by a clickbait gaming thumbnail artist, you can always tell

[turbid barn]

Yoo, true

[earnest yew]

dont we have it?

#repoleak

[subtle bison]

ik we do for citizens and stuff

[turbid barn]

for some reason he reminds me of Gaunter o'Dimm from Witcher Hearts of Stone

[lapis delta]

https://tenor.com/view/father-grigori-half-life-half-life2-gif-25092388

[compact blaze]

So anything that is animated can’t be replaced basically

[subtle bison]

YES LETS GET A FACEMAP OF THIS GUY

[turbid barn]

https://tenor.com/view/джиган-gif-22415770

[subtle bison]

ye if its flickering in the debug view its cooked

[lapis delta]

ХАХАХАХАХАХ

[lapis delta]

[turbid barn]

Джиган - лучший пример

[turbid barn]

• That's the russian singer

[lapis delta]

we have father grigori in ril lif

[earnest yew]

i am not gonna be a big fan of what kliener looks like

[subtle bison]

do we have a kliener replacement?

[compact blaze]

I hope someone enables/reimplements gpu skinning into gmod

[subtle bison]

maybe one day

[earnest yew]

nah but there is

im like 90 percent sure its gonna look like this

[subtle bison]

or maybe rubat just removes FF rendering entirely and this whole project gets completely fucked

[onyx ridge]

this would be great because i could replace the triangle metal plate props with identical ones that don't have smooth shading for some reason

[compact blaze]

He looks great I think

[turbid barn]

but they didn't deserve

[turbid barn]

We've could get this
but we've didn't deserve that

[subtle bison]

are those fucking skinned

[onyx ridge]

every gmod-specific model is

[earnest yew]

breen model

[compact blaze]

Do u think he knows about gmod rtx

[onyx ridge]

they don't have any bones i'm 90% sure it's something with how models are imported

[subtle bison]

i swear the build props werent

[earnest yew]

wouldnt be suprised if kliener also looks like this

[subtle bison]

no but even if he did i dont think he'd give us any support

[crystal storm]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/R357PwilAzk?feature=share

[lapis delta]

во всём виноваты...

[turbid barn]

повстанцы

за то что комбайн не может контроллировать всю землю

за то что все живут плохо

Violating RTX

[crystal storm]

https://tenor.com/view/бен-gif-13574499650622297127

[turbid barn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFz2lkIgMnE&pp=ygUeZ2FycnkncyBtb2QgbmVjbyBhcmMgaW52YW5zaW9u

[lapis delta]

ебать он глупый
("Cubemaps are not about dynamics. I found a comparison. If you jerk off to the speaker so much, then install parallax cubemaps + RenderTarget and that's it. 14k people, relatively gmod community is very small, and I'm sure that 95% of the users there are the same as you. As for the map, suck the dick and learn to google before you write. $displacementmap, $bumpmap and depth buffer, but you don't know how to use google")

[turbid barn]

||russians invasing gmod rtx thread||

[turbid barn]

dm

[lapis delta]

google translate btw

[turbid barn]

add me

[subtle bison]

my only wish is this thread not getting invaded by anything

at least until gmod rtx is a little more polished

[compact blaze]

By what?

[subtle bison]

just like blowing up, like if some large yt channel promoted it

i obviously cant control that but if it's going to get attention, I'd prefer things to be easier to set up for the end user

so ill probably focus on making a proper installer soon

[compact blaze]

Abandon the thread and create a new thread called “jarry’s mod” and talk there

[subtle bison]

lmao

[compact blaze]

You’ll keep the manual installation stuff?

[subtle bison]

yea

just need some nice front end to manage everything for the user

ill brainstorm on it a bit but hopefully its a 0.7.0 goal

[willow fog]

A pack of brain damage

[turbid barn]

🇵🇱

[turbid barn]

Just joking

[lament quartz]

I kinda like this lowkey tho

[subtle bison]

his head needs to be fatter

its way too thin

[lament quartz]

I mean yeah fs

But it still looks good

[subtle bison]

i hope the hl2 animation system holds up with hi-poly models

[keen rivet]

I wonder how hard it would be to create a table of matching hashes between gmod rtx and hl2 rtx so you can easily convert between addons between the two

So you can sync between portal with rtx, hl2 rtx, and more for gmod

That's quite a large project, but I reckon it would pay off and be worth it

[crystal storm]

Hmmm, at its laziest level you could do a powershell script that looks for hashes and subsitutes the hash you want

assuming thats how it works, I've never dabbled in hash stuff except for real hash ya know

I imagine it gets complex when you account for 3 different versions of hashes

[hushed trail]

Something I imagine is that you could use hlmv to open models and get the hash, and know exactly what model is being used to compare.

I’m just not sure what renderer hlmv uses and if it even hooks.

[steel lark]

Why not just use Gmod itself?

[hushed trail]

Wouldn’t be able to know what hash relates to which. You may know the gmod hash, but that could be different for hl2rtx

[crystal storm]

Hmmm, I know some people have created custom hashes for things, I think Xoxor has done something like that. Maybe use that method to "combine" them all into one hash? Maybe some sort of converter script that is aware of what set of hashes you're working with and convert them all to a single uniform list that all future Source RTX mods would use? Just spitballing but in my mind this would somehow work

And you could use that same sort of method to convert hashes for old projects as well, assuming it works as it does in my head lol

[earnest yew]

opengl

i think

[keen rivet]

I mean like, a table that has rows for each hash/asset and how it differs across the games, the columns being each game

[onyx ridge]

got slightly carried away

(the center part texture is an upscaled one but one day i will tackle recreating it manually)

could do with some more noise and i think the bevel part is smaller than it should be

nvm slightly bigger

[crystal storm]

ooooh you mean a literal spreadsheet and not a complex program that converts it all for you, sorry I was seeing a bigger vision 😳

[onyx ridge]

use the spreadsheet as a database for the program

[willow fog]

Batch processing, my beloved.

[jade edge]

Я тут уже давно

[keen rivet]

well yeah a program that does it but using that spreadsheet

[onyx ridge]

it's pretty cool seeing these maps people have made using props and them like

actually having better-than baked map quality

(though they're often not lit very well since y'know normally you have the sun leaking)

i s'pose the next material i should do is dome

though the whole culling thing does kinda kick you in the balls

[subtle bison]

ya, but you could always find a well optimized map to kick up the render bounds distance settings

[onyx ridge]

can you add the remix water material to the toolgun material menu

[subtle bison]

we prob need to make a addon for additional rtx materials anyway

u can spawn it tho one sec

install this

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2836948539&searchtext=submaterial

ok well nvm it doesnt work for some reason

the addon does but for some reason setting dev_monitor isnt spawning the water texture

NVM

I GOT IT

install this

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=746600040&searchtext=material

set the texture as dev/dev_monitor
click a prop
profit

[willow fog]

I fucking

[subtle bison]

u fuck?

[willow fog]

https://tenor.com/view/ofergang-daniel-gif-25330530

Also that character

whatever it's called

[subtle bison]

niko

[willow fog]

yeah

https://tenor.com/view/niko-oneshot-ballin-teste-niko-ballin-gif-26110464

this one

idk where it's from

looks funny tho

[subtle bison]

oneshot iirc

[willow fog]

Shitty little cat thing ❤️

https://tenor.com/view/niko-oneshot-spazm-pancake-goober-gif-4207454113862701316

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/molotov-niko-niko-niko-oneshot-niko-plush-molotov-niko-plush-gif-23957977

arson

[willow fog]

real

western neco ark

Another day, another idiot.

STOP

[subtle bison]

newest commit of dxvk-remix seems to have solved most of my issues in remix 1.0.0

umm what

why is atmospheric house no longer crashing my game

very detailed map wow

HOLY SHIT CSGO NUKE WORKS

if they stay stable, they are begging for PBR

[willow fog]

What did they do?

[subtle bison]

NRC is stable and indirect lighting no longer shits itself after leaving the game open for a long time

i dont think it fixed these map loading issues

just a coincidence

inferno works too

but csgo maps pretty much entirely rely on displacements and turning on the displacement renderer absolutely destroys my framerate

de_train too

wow i wonder what made these maps magically work

i didnt even update my game 💀

[willow fog]

Hm

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet @rubat i dare you

WOW they even fixed transparency issues with unmarked decals

this used to be a blurry mess before

[willow fog]

Cr what is going on?

[subtle bison]

i rebased my custom dxvk-remix changes for shits and giggles

not knowing they fixed a fuck ton of shit

[willow fog]

Imagine staying up to date

Send over the new runtime

[subtle bison]

ye im uploading it to github atm

finally we are on par with raster with decals

🤯

@willow fog https://github.com/sambow23/dxvk-remix-gmod/releases/tag/c0247a8

[winter radish]

Nice try, that's just CS2

[keen rivet]

@subtle bison apparently you can get a new version of the rtxio extractor if you change this from a 4 to a 6 in dxvk-remix repo, then update dependencies

[earnest yew]

yep it's everywhere

[lapis pewter]

This works 🙂

[subtle bison]

🙀

[lapis pewter]

just update that packman-external.xml file then run dxvk-remix\scripts-common\update-deps.cmd

[lucid parcel]

That's still going through review internally, but I suppose this is what we get for using public packages and a predictable versioning scheme

[keen rivet]

HAHAHA

thats awesome

[subtle bison]

WOOOO IT WORKS

[lapis pewter]

How did you figure this out @keen rivet ?

[keen rivet]

someone else did

[hasty sonnet]

[lapis pewter]

Who is this genius 😛

[earnest yew]

dms again

[lapis pewter]

please bestow upon them my highest praise

[subtle bison]

my game crashes trying to load the assets lol

nvm

ravenholm time

[keen rivet]

did you get the hashes converted?

[subtle bison]

nah im using the old hash system rn

rtx.useObsoleteHashOnTextureUpload = True

this works for us

[keen rivet]

does that work on 64bit

[subtle bison]

yes

[keen rivet]

i still think the rainbow table of hashes would be neat to convert

[subtle bison]

ye we shoud

YO

AYO

[keen rivet]

if hl2 rtx isn't using new hashes, why are we

[subtle bison]

yea thats what i was saying earlier today lol

99% of stuff is working ootb

broken stuff is skinned stuff so far

[keen rivet]

you can change all dx90.vtx references to dx70.vtx in datacache.dll to have it work i think

thats how i got more portal with rtx hashes working

[subtle bison]

👁️

[keen rivet]

or maybe other way around

[subtle bison]

oml even the decals...

🤤

[earnest yew]

hooooly

[earnest yew]

load gm construct...

[subtle bison]

bet

our water got replaced 😦

[earnest yew]

was there water in the demo?

[subtle bison]

ok construct is broken lol

stuff is replaced but most of it is missing textures

[keen rivet]

oh yeah

you'll need to remove all the assets that dont have replacements from the usds

[subtle bison]

hu wdym

[keen rivet]

so, the black texture means theres a replacement for it, but it doesn't actually have the asset for it

[subtle bison]

right

[earnest yew]

i tried making a script to do that earlier

[keen rivet]

which is funny because you can actually see now what has and hasn't been finished in hl2 rtx

😂

[subtle bison]

or what they forgot to delete fully ig lol

[earnest yew]

just make a python script to delete and folder with nothing in it plus subfolders

or do it manually

fuck it

[subtle bison]

im having a hard time loading into maps lmao

game is much less stable with these enhancements loaded

[earnest yew]

8k pbr hdr pom displacement rtx on

[subtle bison]

🤤

[earnest yew]

let's get the 64 bit patches working

64 bit hl2 remix

[subtle bison]

hu?

[earnest yew]

https://tenor.com/view/pshs-krabs-krabs-woah-krabs-what-mr-krabs-gif-19859690

[subtle bison]

wdym

[earnest yew]

idk

i'm just saying shit

anniversary branch hl2 remix

[subtle bison]

nah

not gonna go through that hell just for a lesser experience

[earnest yew]

[subtle bison]

use the engine that actually comes with hl2rtx lol

[earnest yew]

true do

didn't they add gpu skinning?

[subtle bison]

yes

im very jealous

[earnest yew]

hmm

let's beg for code!!!

[keen rivet]

i wish rubat would add the proper rtx fixes into gmod 😔

[subtle bison]

did you @ him yet

[earnest yew]

be a man

ping him

[keen rivet]

i've pinged before

[subtle bison]

holy shit the bucket

🤤

[earnest yew]

Bucket...

[keen rivet]

oh thats the same as portal rtx

[earnest yew]

smh sloppy

you didn't remake the bucket AGAIN??

[subtle bison]

ok but what about this

🤤

[earnest yew]

cool factoid

there's a older build of sfm that uses the original source branch

so you could technically have remix sfm

[subtle bison]

nah let sfm die

[earnest yew]

true tho

[subtle bison]

yay grigori didnt get "remixed"

[earnest yew]

fortress films be handicapping themselves

[earnest yew]

i will not shittalk the hl2 rtx gregori model

[subtle bison]

any easter eggs here?

[earnest yew]

camel

[subtle bison]

mr kleiner himself

bruh

looks straight ripped out of hla

im sure its not but the asset quality is THAT good

[hushed trail]

It was a Project 17 asset, so it was meant to sit side by side with the alyx consoles.

[hasty sonnet]

port it

now

just port everything

[subtle bison]

to what 💀

[hasty sonnet]

gmod

gmod rtx

[subtle bison]

this is gmod

💀

[hasty sonnet]

hand it over

rn

just hand it over

i want it

[subtle bison]

download hl2 rtx 💀

[hasty sonnet]

got it

[subtle bison]

and follow what we did above

we're literally just loading the hl2rtx assets in gmod

[hasty sonnet]

i aint scrolling all the way up man

[subtle bison]

good lord those parallax windows 🤤

[crystal storm]

https://tenor.com/view/wojak-soyjak-its-over-its-just-getting-started-its-not-over-gif-8055865700776264813

[subtle bison]

im surprised there is some gmod maps that exclusively use ravenholm assets lol

4K INTERLOPER 🙀

[keen rivet]

ooo what map is that

[subtle bison]

gm_city_square

[hasty sonnet]

so i dont get how to import em

[hasty sonnet]

yo?

[subtle bison]

its quite a bit of steps

its gonna take me a while to write them if i get to it tn

[hasty sonnet]

how many

[subtle bison]

im working on it

hold your horses

[hasty sonnet]

https://youtu.be/bh85GHBe6xY

the second you say that i know its long asf

[keen rivet]

guh

i'm trying to install this on the latest version of the 64 bit binaries

[subtle bison]

make sure your remix build and binary module match

they have to share the same remix api version

[hasty sonnet]

when hl2 asset port?

[subtle bison]

brotha there is no port

it works on gmod

[hasty sonnet]

how

do i just put it into the mods folder?

[subtle bison]

im still writing the guide 💀

its not that easy

[hasty sonnet]

its a joke

the hashes prob dont match

[subtle bison]

they do

why do you think we have been posting screenshots this entire time 💀

[hasty sonnet]

.

[keen rivet]

im on latest remix

[subtle bison]

latest custom build?

we cant use generic builds

[keen rivet]

yeah it is custom

this worked yesterday tho what

[subtle bison]

i would reinstall the latest release of the compat mod and see if that works on its own

then upgrade the remix version after if it does

[keen rivet]

still broke

[subtle bison]

so this is with the gmrtx_0.6.0 archive with absolutely no other changes?

something is causing the dll to not load

[keen rivet]

yeah i wonder if a sig has changed

[subtle bison]

once im done with the guide ill try it myself

[keen rivet]

because this is the latest latest garrysmod

[subtle bison]

@hasty sonnet https://github.com/Xenthio/gmod-rtx-fixes-2/wiki/Using-HL2-RTX-Assets-in-Garry's-Mod

it needs some polishing but i think this is all of the steps

im tired asf as well so uh yea

[keen rivet]

what was this sig again?

i reckon its out of date or something

thats the last thing printed before crash

[subtle bison]

i can see if it matches rq

[keen rivet]

what was the process of getting it? we should have that above all our sigs if possible

[subtle bison]

i dont remember other than fucking around with IDA

[keen rivet]

was this one i grabbed?

[subtle bison]

changed (this is an older ver)

[keen rivet]

ok

what does the surrounding area in shaderapidx9.dll look like at BA E1 0D 74 5E 48 89 1D

[subtle bison]

on my older build?

also uh

latest gmod works for me

[keen rivet]

what the fuck

[subtle bison]

\

matches ur pic too

oh it doesnt

[keen rivet]

wait yeah it doesnt

[subtle bison]

also wouldnt this change every boot because of ASLR?

we're grabbing it dynamically at module load

i dont expect it to be consistent

[keen rivet]

IT WORKS NOW HUH?

WHAT FUCKING CHANGED

[subtle bison]

[hasty sonnet]

1's and 0's

[subtle bison]

xenthio got bit flipped

[hasty sonnet]

bro got hit by a small ray of radiation

[keen rivet]

does using rtxio directly not work?

[subtle bison]

no

even if forced in dxvk.conf

[keen rivet]

what if you use the v6 rtxio binary

[subtle bison]

💀

maybe

but im tired boss

[keen rivet]

im trying it now

[subtle bison]

im gonna delete gmod and reinstall it a 2nd time to verify its not broken and then go to fucking bed

@keen rivet game still works after a 2nd reinstall

i really think u got bitflipped by the universe 🙂

[hasty sonnet]

bro is

rn

[subtle bison]

💀

also cool they added new dev stuff to the gmod console

[hasty sonnet]

https://youtu.be/xh7V5cgqulg

[hasty sonnet]

this shit aint fast enough

[subtle bison]

ok time to sleep

im so dead

[subtle bison]

(this is true)

[keen rivet]

doesn't work

i wonder whats the difference between hl2 rtx and gmod

that makes the pkg unable to load

funny

[hasty sonnet]

Unable to open D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Half-Life 2 RTX\rtx-remix\mods\hl2rtx\mod_01.pkg --force -o .\out
Unable to open resource package file D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Half-Life 2 RTX\rtx-remix\mods\hl2rtx\mod_01.pkg --force -o .\out

this is real shit

[subtle bison]

i guess i shoulda mentioned you need to make the out folder

[hasty sonnet]

how the fuck

[subtle bison]

anyway back to bed

[hasty sonnet]

so you have 5 seconds

@subtle bison

[atomic pagoda]

Not quite having a good time with cmd, am I doing this wrong?

[hasty sonnet]

we all know

[hasty sonnet]

this is the message about the error

[atomic pagoda]

Ohhh that was a placeholder

Could've used some elaboration but thanks

[hasty sonnet]

im still confused on what to do

[atomic pagoda]

The "out" part of the path is supposed to be the output folder where the extracted files will go

Pretty sure

[quasi blaze]

anyone?

[lapis delta]

this will be minecraft 2 in 2015.

[potent agate]

My PC really hates the newer versions of RTX remix lol
Frame gen on gmod will straight up restart my PC, and hl2 rtx and portal rtx will never open on screen

[quasi blaze]

Wait a minute why Would frame gen even be an issue btw?

why wouldn't you're computer like that?

[potent agate]

it only seems to happen in Gmod RTX (and probably the other source game if they loaded)

In cyberpunk it's perfectly fine

[quasi blaze]

so why is Gmod RTX causing a forced restart when frame gen is enabled?

[potent agate]

No idea, that's why I'm bringing it up here

My suspension is the Nvidia drivers

[quasi blaze]

were they up to date?

[potent agate]

Yep

Got the one today

[quasi blaze]

i am planning to get new computer specs btw but i need to save up more money for that any advices you have for that?

[potent agate]

Get something that'll do what you want, if you can afford it. Don't go top of the line if you won't be using it to it's full potential is my advice

[quasi blaze]

i'm more of a UE5 and RTX remix guy and also a new animator beginner too so i think that will be using it's potential

[potent agate]

most likely

[quasi blaze]

okay i'm kinda not sure do i choose intel's arc b580 or The RTX graphics cards (like 4090 0r 5090 from nvidia)?

i have these options

[willow fog]

@subtle bison I'm going to kiss you on your mouth

[half viper]

I ship

[quasi blaze]

@willow fog help?

[willow fog]

Are you looking to buy a new GPU?

[quasi blaze]

yeah but i don't know which one is the best

[willow fog]

Do you want to play remix games? Buy Nvidia.

If you don't care about raytracing? Buy anything else.

[quasi blaze]

i'm an animator and a game dev that's a beginner planning to learn UE5 and blender and RTX remix (and also source engine too)

[willow fog]

Get Nvidia

Nvidia is the best for professional work

Blender support is the best

And ue5 needs all the power you can give it

[quasi blaze]

i will pick a 4090 that atleast had 24 gb of Vram

[willow fog]

I would be surprised if you picked a 4090 which didn't have 24 gigs tbh

[quasi blaze]

yeah but i think 24 gigs is good enough

and i will get 64 gb of ram also

[willow fog]

Sounds good. Now take your ass over to #offtopic

No need to spam the gmod thread

[quasi blaze]

yeah lets chat here

[subtle bison]

seems like they fixed the dep issue with rtxio

I'm gonna update the guide

<placeholder>

<@&1028597389143048232> can someone pin this?

[subtle bison]

ty

[winter radish]

Does it automatically replace the assets in Gmod or does it need to be setup manually?

[subtle bison]

yeah the hashes work ootb

[onyx ridge]

i may have gotten a bit carried away

(still not finished, i'm missing the vent and triangle thing details)

[quasi blaze]

i can't wait to see it when Gmod is stablized for RTX remix

[subtle bison]

it already is?

wdym "stabilized"

[earnest yew]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-minions-popcorn-day-laugh-gif-5026739

[quasi blaze]

Well we've had game crashes before including when we tried to use the version of RTX remix from portal with RTX

[earnest yew]

bro

is not up to date

[subtle bison]

you might want to check the new install guide pinned, we dont do anything with portal rtx anymore

[quasi blaze]

but is there ever addons that is supported by Gmod RTX?

[subtle bison]

most of them work except for the ones noted in the github readme

maybe more that i dont know about but majority do work

[quasi blaze]

although we would have to fix and enhance some textures some models or others for a SWEP addon models (for example) to look Good properly

which i can't do that because i don't have a Good GPU

[subtle bison]

do you mean the $color2 issue with some arc9 and mw base sweps?

its probably fixable but i haven't looked into it yet

[quasi blaze]

yeah

[quasi blaze]

and we've noticed that even the apex legends swep even causes the game to crash

[subtle bison]

that definitely does not happen anymore

[quasi blaze]

what fixed it?

[subtle bison]

we've patched most of the shader issues in x64

the entire game is stable other than a few HDR maps

[earnest yew]

naps

[subtle bison]

i recommend trying the new guide and letting me know if your previous issues are fixed or not

[quasi blaze]

what does the apex legends sweps ACTUALLY look like with RTX remix?

btw

[subtle bison]

no idea i haven't tried them, got a workshop link?

[quasi blaze]

let me see

[earnest yew]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2813902415

assuming this

[quasi blaze]

darn you found it before i even searched it

[subtle bison]

omfg i left parsec off on my pc at home, i cant remote into it

i can try the sweps in a few hours or someone can test it before me

[quasi blaze]

also what kind of specs do you currently have?

[subtle bison]

gpu: rtx 2080
cpu: ryzen 9 7950X3D
ram: 64gb

[earnest yew]

yummy ram

[quasi blaze]

yeah i am planning to get a 4090

and 128 gb of ram

and 24 gigs of vram

uhm was that overkill?

[subtle bison]

i mean even with those specs you'll run into engine bottlenecks

just because of how old the game is and what we do to somewhat prevent culling

[quasi blaze]

i will get those specs anyways i am tired of my GTX 1650 suffering including not being able to even render a metahuman in UE5 causing the computer system to crash

[turbid barn]

So only HL2 assets will work, all other will break?

[subtle bison]

as long as that hash setting is set, yes (you can remove it to switch back to the new system)
but we're still debating if we should go back to that old system anyway

[quasi blaze]

hopefully that will be understandable

[subtle bison]

oh yeah definitely a huge upgrade from a gtx 1650

[quasi blaze]

also how strong will RTX remix be compared to shaders that apex legends currently uses?

[subtle bison]

that game is rasterized so its not easy to compare those

remix is very unique with how it renders

[quasi blaze]

also does RTX remix currently support chromium X64?

[subtle bison]

yep

mediaplayers and stuff work

[quasi blaze]

and also it's a stable branch too

[subtle bison]

nah we're exclusively on the x64 beta

we can't use x32 anymore

too slow and buggy

[quasi blaze]

tell me a very detailed comparision with X32 and X64

[subtle bison]

im not chatgpt 💀

[quasi blaze]

i know Just kidding!

i wish i could use the troll emoji though

[subtle bison]

the big difference is that we cant completely remove culling on x64 due to missing patches but we've somewhat worked around it with some lua/c++ binary module stuff.

but performance and stability on x64 is much better than x32

also more addons are compatible and I've fixed most of the broken particles

[quasi blaze]

Also why is Culling a problem with Gmod RTX?

[subtle bison]

it's with any source game, culling is there to save performance which isnt an issue on rasterized since the lighting is baked. It's an issue on remix because light can leak through the map and props will cull when you're not looking at them

x32 didn't have this issue because the engine was patched to fully disable it. we don't have this on x64 so far, but as i said, we have workarounds that mostly solve the issue

[quasi blaze]

i might have an idea on what gmod map i could pick to enhance in RTX remix

wait right there

[quasi blaze]

@subtle bison this one reminds me of my childhood memories back when i watched vanossgaming https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=248949639&searchtext=mall

i might use the capture feature in Remix and i will adjust the map and we will see what it looks like

[livid rapids]

SO

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3446581627

[meager oar]

dayum boi, u spent all that money on CPU and RAM 😅

[livid rapids]

anyone with 32 gigs

[quasi blaze]

uhm that might too much for the game engine to handle

[livid rapids]

Send it.

[willow fog]

Do I HAVE to have inf map?

[livid rapids]

yeah

requirement

[willow fog]

alright

Installing

[quasi blaze]

i am really skeptical about it i am not very sure if RTX remix mixes with infinite maps well

[onyx ridge]

it's a shame the lamp gets culled the moment it's not in my fov anymore

[livid rapids]

20 min load time 💀

[willow fog]

sheesh

I'm in for some pain, aren't I?

[quasi blaze]

i have went through the pain of going through a map that has SO MANY UNIVERSES in space and my GTX 1650 never liked that

ever

[subtle bison]

like the gmod lamp?

[onyx ridge]

yeah

[subtle bison]

i think someone else mentioned this, ill try to fix those

[willow fog]

Running this with remix is going to be pain

[subtle bison]

surprisingly it works ok

[willow fog]

huh

crazy

[onyx ridge]

i need to have my ultra mega death beam

[subtle bison]

not ideal but far better than my expectations

[quasi blaze]

yeah do you remember this map? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3132262723&searchtext=infmap

it was lagging so badly when traveling so fast

[willow fog]

I'm not even going to try that

[quasi blaze]

Yep agreed not gonna risk my computer crashing over so many universes not after what happened last time i tried

[willow fog]

When you can't even say my name

Has the memory gone? are you feeling numb?

Go on, call my name

I can't play this game, so I ask again

[livid rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/mgs-metal-gear-solid-phantom-pain-venom-snake-gif-5631901306578330322

[willow fog]

Will you say, my name

[quasi blaze]

Junky Dorrito

[willow fog]

hi

That's me

[quasi blaze]

we'll anyways let's not get too far with the infmap i linked

[willow fog]

Has the meory gone? are you feeling numb?

Or have I become invisible?

[onyx ridge]

also

sun editor support when

🥺

[quasi blaze]

you know i can still talk to you

[willow fog]

I know

I had to finish the verse

[quasi blaze]

could you try this map btw? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2476628515&searchtext=airship

[willow fog]

Sure

After liberty city

[quasi blaze]

[willow fog]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jDH57mzzt_s?feature=share

[livid rapids]

this game has some sick pbr implementation but

MY EYES

[willow fog]

Welp

Time to turn off koboldcpp

[livid rapids]

some very cool weapon models too... saw some guy ported the auto9 from the robocop game to mwbase

wonder if I can do that with hitman models

[willow fog]

Aren't they third person optimized?

[livid rapids]

Hitman 3 VR exists

[willow fog]

That said, I have to replay hitman

[willow fog]

No it doesn't

It's not real

[livid rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-its-mid-fight-morgan-freeman-gif-6564041502742593422

[willow fog]

You have been lied to

I'm sorry

[quasi blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-vi-gta-6-rockstar-games-grand-theft-auto-grand-theft-auto-vi-gif-7139730674119532577

@willow fog do you know why you're here?

[compact blaze]

Reminds me of Mitchell from hunt down the freeman

[willow fog]

Loading livberty city

[livid rapids]

anyways yeah I'd have to see if there's a separate vr version for every weapon

Would make sense

[quasi blaze]

you know that was actually supposed to be a GTA 6 joke

[willow fog]

What

Oh it's loading

Oh god

[quasi blaze]

OH MY

i didn't expect that to load

[livid rapids]

well that's the LOD

[willow fog]

Yeah

[livid rapids]

get ready for broker HD

[willow fog]

Can't wait for the higher res geometry to start loading

[quasi blaze]

can you actually record a video to see i'm not just hallucinating?

[quasi blaze]

oh i REALLY am not hallucinating after all

[willow fog]

This whole area is taking time

[quasi blaze]

i wonder if a whole GTA 5 map can even be loaded https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3027782245&searchtext=GTA+5

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-monkey-look-and-leave-yikes-monkey-look-and-leave-gif-14895670

[willow fog]

Disabled raytracing and things are loading much faster now

[quasi blaze]

@willow fog can we actually handle that?

[willow fog]

I don't know

I'll have to try

[subtle bison]

i tried it

[willow fog]

@livid rapids I think it is fully loaded

[subtle bison]

it worked but i ran out of vram before it finished lol

[willow fog]

How much of the map is in there?

[quasi blaze]

that's how you know how demanding can an infinite map be in terms of system resources

it isn't optimized to be running smoothly compared to GTA 5

[willow fog]

Incredibly fucked up

@livid rapids

[quasi blaze]

definetely a pain to load and play

[willow fog]

Memory usage after closing gmod

[quasi blaze]

i think it's recommended to stick to maps that isn't an infinite map

you know a hammer compiled map for example

[quasi blaze]

that isn't actually bad compared to an infmap

we could get used to this

[willow fog]

Most maps work fine

@subtle bison pls fix

[subtle bison]

probably fvf related, idk if this is something fixable due to how we do stuff

i hate func_ entities (what ur shooting)

[willow fog]

Fun fact, for me, fvf only works when I turn it off and on

[willow fog]

(Apparently it lags with rt off)

So it's a physics bottleneck

[subtle bison]

nah its a CR created bottleneck

[subtle bison]

we set large render bounds on everything to prevent culling, when you shoot func entities like that, it's creating many more entities to do that

hence the performance cripple

[willow fog]

I see

fuck you cr

[runic gale]

Looks like it's their CPU

[subtle bison]

its a tough thing to work around, i could add some kind of toggle to ignore these entities but then they will cull of course

can't do both without actual engine patches

[willow fog]

Where's garry when you need him\

[subtle bison]

rubat*

[willow fog]

Where's Rubat when you need him/

[quasi blaze]

he must've been busy being frustrated with a LOT of errors in the linux version

[quasi blaze]

btw can you try this gamemode? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2800282661

[willow fog]

What is this?

[quasi blaze]

let me record a video so i can show you

[quasi blaze]

this is what it is

[willow fog]

meh

Maybe later

[subtle bison]

other gamemodes that dont load sandbox lua files will definitely not work

the game wont crash but the visuals are gonna be pretty horrible

[quasi blaze]

but can that be fixed?

[subtle bison]

ffs

fr tho, not really
we either

1. get proper culling patches that removes the need for most of our addons
2. get someone to inject our addons into other gamemodes (legally dubious)

both are very difficult to achieve

[quasi blaze]

i've seen someone do this though

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=903644203&searchtext=anti

[compact blaze]

@magic wyvern explain that auto mod message

[subtle bison]

its a joke , ik why the mods blocked it

[subtle bison]

this only works for sandbox 💀

which defeats the purpose

[quasi blaze]

dang it!

i'm out of ideas then

[subtle bison]

we'd need a way to inject our stuff into the game with other means

which is why i said legally dubious

and i am not investigating that route at all

[quasi blaze]

what makes proper culling patches harder than what it seems?

[subtle bison]

what is this map btw

[subtle bison]

finding the address/signatures to actually turn them off
x64 massively changed how r_cullbox works which makes it extremely difficult to patch

i dont have the RR experience to do it myself

[quasi blaze]

then who do we blame for that change?

[subtle bison]

rubat but i wouldnt go bug him about it

we just need someone experienced with this kind of stuff to make a new patch

[subtle bison]

ty

[subtle bison]

ill try looking into some ideas to make fvf less expensive, no promises though

[compact blaze]

What does that stand for btw?

[willow fog]

Appreciate

[subtle bison]

force view frustrum

[quasi blaze]

considering not many people are on this chat the chances of finding an experienced person are pretty low

[willow fog]

You'd be surprised

[subtle bison]

we already have like 3 people here who are very capable of doing it

but they have other things going on so perfectly understandable

[magic wyvern]

oh kim added that to annoy burrito since he thinks it's funny to give new users this response whenever they ask about basic things.

[distant crystal]

Very uncarefully

[compact blaze]

What the term very care-fully?

[willow fog]

Very carefuly

[steel lark]

very carefulIy

lol

[subtle bison]

very carefuly

omg

no please

the edit trick didnt work for me

[willow fog]

Very carefuly

[earnest yew]

SHHH

[willow fog]

Me neither

[steel lark]

i used big i

very very very carefulIy

[subtle bison]

super ultra mega very carefulIy

[meager oar]

i saw debate of using either old hashes or new hashes here, so what got decided?

[subtle bison]

nothing yet

im ok with both since we can easily toggle it with a rtx.conf tweak, but it would be ideal to convert hashes to one system or another so its all under one roof

xenthio had a idea for that

[quasi blaze]

@subtle bison i have an idea (and a question) wanna hear it?

[subtle bison]

sure

[quasi blaze]

since this game exists would it be possible to take the assets from this game and port it to Gmod RTX just wondering what they would look like

https://gn.qq.com

[subtle bison]

is this chinese apex legends

[quasi blaze]

yeah

[subtle bison]

to answer your question, you can port anything to remix as long as you have the the original assets

there are limits with gmod rtx though, ragdolls and npc's for example cant be replaced at the moment due to the game using software skinning (means we are unable to replace these in the toolkit)

but textures and generally most props work fine

[earnest yew]

cough couhg ping kralich

[quasi blaze]

but can we actually imagine what the characters from chinese apex would look like if it was remixed in RTX remix?

[subtle bison]

i mean it would probably look as it would in the original game, both use a PBR pipeline

[quasi blaze]

the character designs are pretty cool though

not gonna lie

[meager oar]

illusion of volumetric clouds

[quasi blaze]

if only if RTX REMIX had Volumetric clouds as a feature

[earnest yew]

@keen rivet

why're some textures grey

[subtle bison]

for the hl2rtx assets?

because they most likely removed the textures but not the whole replacement when shipping the demo

[earnest yew]

i see

[quasi blaze]

@subtle bison you know what? i'm starting to regret letting my parents decide the PC specs

considering the GTX sucks

with ray tracing

[subtle bison]

that card was made like around 1st gen RT cards so i dont think its really their fault 💀

fuck i got my 2080 in 2018 and we didnt have any games like this for years

[meager oar]

wch card u have?

[subtle bison]

GTX 1650

[quasi blaze]

GTX 1650

[meager oar]

dayum

i had the gtx 1660ti running quake 2 rtx back then in 60 fps in 1080p after tweaking some settings

[subtle bison]

quake 2 rtx is like the easiest PT game to run isnt it

[quasi blaze]

‼️

what?!

[meager oar]

yea

i think only game that allowed gtx cards to turn RT on after that i dnt remember any other game allowing it

[quasi blaze]

HOLD ON WAIT A MINUTE

[meager oar]

then path tracing came and it pretty much killed it

[quasi blaze]

wait how powerful IS path tracing compared to ray tracing?

[meager oar]

alooot, just look at amd cards like 7900 xtx running it, gtx cards stand no chance and i dnt think they even support the current path tracing that remix uses

[onyx ridge]

guyssss i think i'm starting to get better at this

[quasi blaze]

does intel arc b580 even have any chances to run it?

[meager oar]

well it should but i havent seen anyone with arc here running it

perf would be bad i think

[onyx ridge]

if your drivers don't blow up

[subtle bison]

if a ps5 apu can run remix, so can a b580 lol

[quasi blaze]

maybe i will stay with buying a 4090 thank you VERY much

GOTTA RUN

[meager oar]

i think a 4070 should be enough if your aiming for 1080p, i have 4070 super and it runs hl2 rtx in 55 to 65 fps in dlss transformer quality

[quasi blaze]

is a 4070 cheaper than 4090 atleast?

[meager oar]

yea but gpu prices are very high RN, i made the right choice by getting mine 2 months ago for 388 dollars, it was 590 dollars but i traded my 2080 super

[quasi blaze]

Okay maybe i could live with that price atleast

it means might be a good price for me

[meager oar]

5070 is almost 900 dollars here like bruh

[quasi blaze]

no matter i'm gonna save it up for it

[onyx ridge]

who up pheonixing their storms

[compact blaze]

What program are you using for these materials?

[onyx ridge]

making them with a 100% definitely legal substance designer copy

[subtle bison]

this looks sick

[near tartan]

Garry was thinking when he made this mod

[willow fog]

Real

[onyx ridge]

i really hope we get some fix for not being able to directly use hl2 rtx assets

my poor laptop does not have the space for effectively two copies of hl2 rtx

[near tartan]

The question is, will Half Life 2 RTX become the most popular Half Life 2 mod, or will Gmod keep its title

[meager oar]

hmmm

transparent stuff cause accurate colored indirect lighting but the traveling light through the green glass doesnt change color

[steel lark]

i hate nova prospekt this stupid maze but it looks good

[onyx ridge]

iirc there's a separate setting for it but i can't remember where

heh... this house is pretty... atmospheric

[earnest yew]

looks stank

[compact blaze]

Wait why are there 2 Jessicas

[magic wyvern]

there's even 3

[earnest yew]

https://tenor.com/view/ts-squid-game-squid-game-2-tuff-dance-tuff-gif-1192143770479362748

[willow fog]

This map scares the shit out of me in bonelab

[modern sparrow]

honestly wonder if one could get the draconic base test tools to work in RTX gmod idk how useful these would be though

[willow fog]

These are all shaders so they won't work

[steel lark]

why the hell would you want that?

[modern sparrow]

well idk just to try it maybe if it worked that is can a person not be curious in the year of 2025?

[steel lark]

only if they're very carefull

[astral loom]

i cannot enter a map without crashing on lua started

[subtle bison]

sounds like you're using the old method to run the game

follow this instead
https://github.com/Xenthio/gmod-rtx-fixes-2/blob/main/README.md

[astral loom]

which one

i used that one github

[subtle bison]

ah, did you try disabling all addons except the required 4?

[astral loom]

wait i think yours is different

https://github.com/skurtyyskirts/GmodRTX

[subtle bison]

ye thats the old way

[astral loom]

yeah i figured

thanks

[compact blaze]

i think i thought of some hack job idea for remix to support specific lighting/fog settings for different maps/areas, what if lets say on map loads we could attach a trigger to a unique mesh or light in a capture to then use the specific light/fog settings

[subtle bison]

we could also integrate that directly into the binary module

[compact blaze]

yall think remix could support that?

[subtle bison]

ye it would be that hard to add

[compact blaze]

would or wouldn't?

[subtle bison]

wouldnt oops lol

would probably make a command called rtx_save_map_settings that saves all remix settings into a json with the map name

[viscid ocean]

has anybody tried putting the assets from hl2 rtx into gmod rtx

[subtle bison]

yes look at pinned

[compact blaze]

ya i feel it'd be an easy way to solve hl2 rtx's and other remix projects issue of having to keep a generalized volumetric/lighting setting for the entire game

[subtle bison]

ill add that as a 0.7.0 goal

i definitely wanna implement that soon

[compact blaze]

im thinking it'd be more of a general remix feature but ya

[subtle bison]

it'd be difficult to add that as a general feature since remix doesnt have access to the engine like that normallyh

[earnest yew]

hahahahaha

[compact blaze]

no i mean like, y'know how a capture can detect meshes and lights and identify them as hashes

lets say each map has a special mesh or light the other maps don't, just pin a trigger to that specific hash and when it appears ingame the special settings get triggered

[subtle bison]

ah

i see

yeah i dont see why not

though idk how or where that would be specifically done on the remix side

maybe make a feature request on the remix github?

[compact blaze]

i wanna ask is that the canned HLA model for kliener?

[compact blaze]

ya ofc just wanted to ask and see if its smth viable

[astral loom]

yessss i got it running

now theres no many artifacts lmfaoooooo

so*

[subtle bison]

such as?

you might be confusing it for denoiser/upscaling noise

[subtle bison]

oh uh

thats not right

[earnest yew]

yes

[astral loom]

it kinda flickers a little

[earnest yew]

the other kliener model is the one made by the hl2 remade assets team

[astral loom]

i get good frams for a 3050 tho

[subtle bison]

those are detail textures, they're suposed to be removed on map spawn

open your pause menu and open this

if it shows errors for remixbinary send a screenshot here

[astral loom]

how do i keep the light consistent also?

aight

[subtle bison]

ah you're missing some addons probably

did you subscribe to these?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3417054376

they're also linked in that guide

[astral loom]

ohh those other two ones i didnt

let me add em rq

[subtle bison]

ye that should fix the lua errors

[astral loom]

yup

it worked

thanks

[loud mural]

Wow I know that dupe, that looks incredible

[subtle bison]

if/when you release it, can we include it in the compat mod? ill credit u ofc

[onyx ridge]

the main two things bugging me are the fact so far i've done it with the new hashes so it doesn't work with hl2rtx things and that, for some reason, i can't make translucent materials in the project

the toolkit crashes when i try opening the material convert menu

[subtle bison]

yea it was for me too

i went back to my old dev build i compiled forever ago

[quiet scroll]

Errr oh wait uhh (im out of the loop lmao) do the hashes from the hl2 demo matchup with the old hashes when we had the hl2.exe?

[subtle bison]

yea

but you can go back to that old hash system

read the pinned guide

[glass plinth]

what exactly are hashes and why would using hl2 rtx assets break them for other mods?

[quiet scroll]

Oh sweet, thanks!

[steel lark]

very carefulIy

[subtle bison]

hashes are a unique string of numbers and text that allow remix to know all materials/textures in your game, it's what allows you to replace assets

[glass plinth]

oh I see

so if I were to install a rtx map mod from moddb and then import HL2 RTX assets into the game, it would break the mod?

that's fine by me, most maps clog up my vram immediately

[steel lark]

i think the hl2 rtx assets don't work not that they wouldn't work with another mod

[lament quartz]

so do i put rtx.useObsoleteHashOnTextureUpload = True in rtx.conf or a different conf

[magic wyvern]

this response doesn't even make sense

[subtle bison]

rtx.conf as said in the pinned guide

[steel lark]

yes

[subtle bison]

no, the hl2rtx assets simply wont load until you change the hash setting

[lament quartz]

oh theres a guide

😭

lowkey just been copying what other people have been doing

[glass plinth]

so I should be fine if I haven't installed any RTX related mods?

[earnest yew]

too bad the hl2rtx shit wont load

im assuming cause 2 seperate pkg mods cant at the same time

[subtle bison]

ye

[glass plinth]

never realized how many I actually have

would the HDRI and Water mod affect it?

[lament quartz]

kinda cool lowkey

[compact blaze]

This with global illumination off?

[onyx ridge]

i can't wait for hl2rtx to fully release and for remix to remove the old hash setting

[compact blaze]

This sounds sarcastic

[subtle bison]

so we can painstakingly convert all hashes?

[lament quartz]

on

[compact blaze]

Also ur trans fem right?

I wanna ask what’s the connection with terminally online trans fem people and anime catgirls, tried asking a friend but she wouldn’t give a clear answer 💔 it’s almost like trans people aren’t in a connected hive mind or smth

[onyx ridge]

just me being paranoid about obsolete/deprecated stuff in software that really benefits from being kept up to date

in my case : idk !!

i just think being a mrrp meow is silly and fun

[lament quartz]

yeah

[lament quartz]

what

its not an anime catgirl its a furry :eyye:

[compact blaze]

Same thing

[lament quartz]

mmmno

[willow fog]

What

[earnest yew]

LMAO

[willow fog]

The chat just did a 180

[subtle bison]

yea uhh

[lament quartz]

Dw it's ain't taking it further than that if not offtopic