Garry's Mod

[subtle bison]

i can send the individual lua file but it will also be available in the next release

paste it here, replace the old one

[steel lark]

winxp lmao

[subtle bison]

just a theme

[steel lark]

thank god

[livid rapids]

mans over here coding on vs2005 sp1

[subtle bison]

apex-ahh movement

[livid rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/3-2025-sad-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-gif-5943068816506247058

[subtle bison]

ea killed respawn 🥹

at least the part i cared about

[livid rapids]

I'm still upset about EA canceling their star wars shooter

Gameplay will be in first-person and involve high mobility thanks to the return of the iconic jetpack we have seen sported by Boba and Jango Fett in the franchise. This will give players abilities like horizontal dashing, vertical jumping, and boost sliding.

[steel lark]

what do i do if the ui is like this?

[steel lark]

off topic?

i mean i'm no channel police but that really has nothing to do with anything?

[steel lark]

i think it's an addon but the lua menu is so bad i can't see which addons are enabled or not

oh i can filter it

well

[peak rover]

its just a meme bro💔

[peak rover]

looks like the fnaf 3 ui

[steel lark]

bruhh

[drifting hinge]

the fnaf

[steel lark]

sorry

[subtle bison]

i had this issue, you might've accidentally ingored a alpha texture for the UI

just use my rtx.conf

you might have to re-enable the post process stuff

[steel lark]

ok

the hdri cube casts shadows lol

[subtle bison]

yea its because i attached it to the player so it never culls

[modern quest]

if you whisper gently to it, it'll go away

[steel lark]

isn't it invisible tho? why does it cast shadows? did you make it alpha less or an invisible material

[subtle bison]

nah its not invisible

its just behind you

[steel lark]

oh

lmao

[subtle bison]

you can make it invisible but the process is not that fun

and i wouldnt be able to set it like that for everyone

you would basically hide the cube texture instance using the runtime

but you'd do it for every HDRI

so to do that, spawn a HDRI cube from the editors panel instead

[distant crystal]

Is there any write up on how to do DLSS4 with remix? I don't mind waiting for official release just curious as to how yall are doing it

[potent agate]

I don't think anyone has dlss 4 here yet

[earnest yew]

we do

[stable scarab]

I've been running it since it came out yesterday

[earnest yew]

are you just swapping dlls or what

[stable scarab]

Yeah

copy/paste the .dll file from Cyberpunk

no need to download

[potent agate]

Oh, I guess I missed the dlss 4 part lmao

[potent agate]

I'll be honest I haven't noticed a difference in quality

although with ultra performance and frame gen on I can get like 200+ fps in this spot

[crystal storm]

I'm really about to regret refunding cypberpunk all that time ago huh

[subtle bison]

yay

its working as intended

oh it still crashed

try this one

[subtle bison]

🥹

[steel lark]

where are the remix captures in the 64 bit version?

[subtle bison]

the same place

[steel lark]

uhm weird ig i'll capture again

the rtx-remix folder is empty???

[subtle bison]

make sure u dont have any software that is messing up write persmissions or something

[steel lark]

all the files inside the rtx-remix folder vanished

not i'm my recycle bin neither deleted by windows antivirus

[subtle bison]

you sure your drive isnt dying or something lmao

nothing gmod or remix would cause that

[steel lark]

literally was just playing gmod rtx

the last thing i did was capture a scene

bruh

[subtle bison]

they work for me

[steel lark]

?

[subtle bison]

i wouldnt even know where to start with stuff getting deleted

[steel lark]

NOOO!!! i'm gonna have to reinstall everything 😭

could it be that i only have 20 gb left?

[subtle bison]

idk

[steel lark]

joever

[quiet scroll]

HUGEEEEE, thanks CR! Do you have a kofi or sometin?

[steel lark]

aren't video games beautiful?

[subtle bison]

a paypal but i hardly use it lmao

[quiet scroll]

imma dm u right quick

[steel lark]

lmao water tree

[subtle bison]

definitely a feature and not a bug 🙂

actual fix is here

[steel lark]

uh i do have that version

[subtle bison]

map name?

ill look into it

[modern quest]

you're sure that isn't intentional?

i saw a water tree just yesterday at the park

[steel lark]

didn't say it wasn't!

grrr i hate when mappers from more than 10 years ago don't predict that one day would exist a program that renders their map in rtx so that they could make it compatible with it!

[crystal storm]

this map has the same issue, seems to be a wood or alpha texture at the main pirate base, and as Cast_e mentioned the map is about 20 years old lol https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2887931771&searchtext=tropical

[drifting hinge]

whats happening in the world of gmod rtx

[quiet scroll]

Almost done with the mansion map

[quiet scroll]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/country-estate-v1-rtx

[drifting hinge]

gemmy

[quiet scroll]

funkis is next

(wut kinda name is funkis )

[drifting hinge]

rp_icerailway

[wind yoke]

swedish/norwegian short for functionalism

Map contains 1930s functionalism architecture. Too rich to be considered swedish, but possibly norwegian or danish

[quiet scroll]

Ohhh that makes more sense, it’s a cooler map than I remember

[quiet scroll]

Added a easter egg in dis one

[drifting hinge]

I ❤️ Scandinavia

and the way they paint houses weird colors

[wind yoke]

I haven't played Basalt but it looks like you'd be a fan!

[drifting hinge]

gimme gimme

[wind yoke]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3329258290

[drifting hinge]

👀

oh its beautiful

[subtle bison]

i wonder how trivial it would be to port this to source/remix

maybe import the map into blender, save it as a model, import into remix.
then using the same map in blender, reduce the poly count to make a collision mesh, and import that into source

someone did that here before

we'd also get the benefit of keeping the PBR materials ootb

[drifting hinge]

thats how mafia works

[livid rapids]

yeah uhhh

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1984383383

[wind yoke]

It was originally for CSGO. Possibly if you used the original version

[livid rapids]

there are some differences iirc but many of the materials should be based on the same albedo maps

[subtle bison]

i think it wouldnt be too hard to use the cs2 version directly

sourceio has support for source 2 maps

[wind yoke]

Including the fancy water shaders? 🥺

The source 2 skybox system is p different, or am I mistaken?

Either way, it'd be interesting to see!

[subtle bison]

if it uses source 2 specific shaders for it, prob not, but it could be ported i guess

[meager oar]

does the latestt remix version fix the menu problem in gmod rtx?

[quiet scroll]

Not the latest remix release but the latest bridge fixed the errors yeah

[steel lark]

how do i make a perfect mirror now? it seems they changed something in the rendering cause 0 roughness + 1 metallic"ness" is not fully mirror like

[drifting hinge]

@quiet scroll have you considered gmall yet? i wanna see the Black Factory part in remix so badddd

[earnest yew]

gmall would look soooo goood

[quiet scroll]

Yeahh i did a test run last year of it but never finished it, i could def do it now

I was too knew with the toolkit to do anything good last year lol

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet i have absolutely no idea what happened since the last time i tested this. But I tried fresh x64 install with blueamulets updated patches (excluding engine and client for culling). No crashes, and CEF works

💀

gmod theater rtx is now possible lmfao

im gonna make a quick new release for x64

[keen rivet]

Lol

[keen rivet]

Dude that emissive screen might look awesome

I didn't consider that

[subtle bison]

dw im fixing the white thing so fast

i gotta get this pushed

CEF menu is working perfectly fine too

[keen rivet]

Hell yea

[subtle bison]

omg

its possibble

time to try a video

[subtle bison]

omfg its peak

its so peak

[potent agate]

peak

[earnest yew]

unreal could never

[subtle bison]

transparent tv 🙀

[loud mural]

electroluminescent quantum dots are real in gmod

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

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[lament quartz]

How

[subtle bison]

@modern quest can you pin this, x64 is now in a good state to take over 32-bit

🙂

we did it boys

[subtle bison]

with the release i just pushed

[lament quartz]

Cool, 64 bit only?

[subtle bison]

yep

[lament quartz]

Fuck ok

[subtle bison]

dw 64-bit is stable now ☺️

[lament quartz]

No it's just that I have to install 64 bit again and uninstall 32 bit

[subtle bison]

why not keep 2 seperate installs 💀

just rename the 32-bit one and download x64

[lament quartz]

I don't have all the space in the world I'm a poor gal 😄

Lol

[subtle bison]

the addons are stored seperately so it doesnt take up much space

all of my addons are in the steam workshop folder

[lament quartz]

Are you going to hate me if I told you I have less than 4 gb free

[subtle bison]

im sure you can find something to delete

[lament quartz]

32 bit gmod

[subtle bison]

something other than that

btw if you're gonna install x64, run it once via steam before installing remix

shit i should put that in the instructions

[wind yoke]

This is your responsibility now

[lament quartz]

Pass i have nothing good to delete, ill just wait until I get more storage

[wind yoke]

Haven't filled more than 100gb on my drive. No clue how people do it.

I'm impressed.

[lament quartz]

Many many wolfenstein games

And many many call of duty games

[lament quartz]

But mostly wolfenstein games

[wind yoke]

ig I'm just old

[lament quartz]

Aren't we all 😅

[subtle bison]

its perfect

[subtle bison]

clean install

media player works ootb for everyone

😊

[modern quest]

please add a title to the message like skurtyy did

[subtle bison]

done

[earnest yew]

whats new bubba

[subtle bison]

mostly fixes for previous issues, i didnt bother with a changelog because i cant remember everything

CEF works so you get working media player and menu

[earnest yew]

swag

[subtle bison]

we're on par with x32 if not a little better so its the 1st stable release

[modern quest]

x128 when

[subtle bison]

hold on let me just pull out my semiconductor fab rq

[earnest yew]

im tryna figure out how to change call stacks

ion fuck with modding .exes and dlls

im scratching my head like a monkey

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet the material tool doesnt seem to work on x64

did your modifications rely on render targets?

oddly the submaterial tool works

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet another issue, since CEF being fixed, some maps have broken rendering

i think you fixed this a long time ago on x32?

its any map with a shader skybox

[subtle bison]

hmm its an addon on my end

disabling everything but the required works fine

this is gonna suck to track down lol

[subtle bison]

ok ive isolated it to a map addon of all things

didnt expect that

if its a material replacement, i'd have to isolate that and fix it

fucking found it

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3252367349

ofc its a map like this

its doing some dubious shit if its breaking others

ye its replacing materials and even has its own lua code

💀

gonna try to make a addon that prevents this

so it was modifying the skypaint texture which shader skybox maps use, all i gotta do is prevent addons from changing it and then this issue shouldnt happen again. ill push a hotfix as soon as i can

nvm that doesnt seem to work, ill just list it as an incompatible addon for rn

[subtle bison]

?

[fallow mesa]

custom world rendering no more settings needed😮

[subtle bison]

yea

its perfect now

[fallow mesa]

loading into the big map is faster

[subtle bison]

idek if i actually did anything to fix that but hey if it does nice 👍

[keen rivet]

Yeah I had to fix it

The fixes are In the original repository

I'm not home right now so I can't tell you where exactly

[subtle bison]

shouldnt the workshop addon still work for x64?

[keen rivet]

What the

[subtle bison]

that's what we're currently using

[subtle bison]

it was a rouge addon, its fixed now

[keen rivet]

It'll conflict

I want to port everything to the new repo

But like better

[subtle bison]

wish we knew a way to fix render targets

i wonder if we'll have to use the new portal rtx remix build, it might work there

remix is causing the issue

[keen rivet]

They should work in new rtx remix versions

On GitHub

[subtle bison]

the RT cameras and 3d skyboxes work, but spawnlists, screenshots and other stuff dont

[keen rivet]

Oh those are cam3D stuff

[subtle bison]

oh

do we know why remix breaks them?

if you turn off raytracing in the remix menu, they seem to work

[fallow mesa]

i seem to have a problem with this map

[subtle bison]

yea its been a long known issue

its really just that map too

i have no idea on earth what causes it lol

[fallow mesa]

full bright on this map

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3251774364

[subtle bison]

probably because its HDR only

oh its not

has the same issue as the one i had with earlier

ill investigate it later but its going on the incompatible list for now

[loud mural]

Why is that?

[subtle bison]

for some reason the game shows a no steamuser error if its not launched the 1st time with steam

no idea why

[loud mural]

Ahhh

[subtle bison]

you could launch it the 1st time with remix installed but its kinda buggy without the launch params

made a readme for remix fixes 2

https://github.com/Xenthio/gmod-rtx-fixes-2/blob/main/README.md

its pretty much based off the latest release but it didnt make sense to dump all of that info there

should be a changelog instead lol

[keen rivet]

nipe

[drifting hinge]

nipe

[keen rivet]

nope*

[drifting hinge]

[quiet scroll]

made a little bit of progress on it today

[drifting hinge]

very good yes... man... yes mr skurty...

[lapis delta]

its like me but im monitoring dxvk-remix instead gmod

[drifting hinge]

real

[steel lark]

goddamit lmao

did all the steps manually two days before the installer releases 😭

[subtle bison]

i probably should change the name, its not really an installer

its just a drag-n-drop archive

[modest whale]

A few python lines and it can be one

"a few" meaning the equivalent of all the harry potters + the bible

[subtle bison]

making one wouldnt be that difficult, but there really isnt a point in making one

[half viper]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-segway-segway-cat-death-bin-gif-25815242

[drifting hinge]

what even happening fr rn

[subtle bison]

@fallow oxide strelok told me you want to restore the fixed function pipeline for garrys mod? We have most of it, but a couple of render features like some particle systems and NPC eye rendering are completely broken.

this is just in general when running the game with shader model 0, doesnt matter if remix is hooked or using dxlevel 95 for example

my goal was to decouple world and model rendering from those other systems so we could have the best of both worlds

remix can handle this with source engine games just fine

but im not much of a programmer so little progress has been made there

[steel lark]

ohhh

[steel lark]

uhh the water fix didn't work on gm_poolrooms

[drifting hinge]

what a coincidence I'm in poolrooms right now

[steel lark]

it's blinking for a frame with the hash: 9348FF78D9BE2BC9

[subtle bison]

ill add it to the list

ill try to push an updated ver later today

[steel lark]

can you also try on gm_wwhouse?

it's one of my favorite maps but the water never worked

[earnest yew]

for all the dummys

@subtle bison

for any idiots

[stable scarab]

for me

[subtle bison]

what makes this different from my archive

[drifting hinge]

Buddy had to send the same file twice

[livid rapids]

thrice

[earnest yew]

fixed a error

errors

[drifting hinge]

Killed with bombs

[subtle bison]

you might wanna push the source out

sorry but im not touching that file 💀

[earnest yew]

its just a .bat

with your archive

but sure

[subtle bison]

then why not PR the bat

[earnest yew]

wdym

[subtle bison]

make a github pull request

[earnest yew]

alrighty

[subtle bison]

fork the repo, add the bat, get me or xenthio to merge it

but i gotta ask again, why an installer? is dragging-and-dropping something that difficult? I dont think anyone here has had issues with installation itself other than mistakes I've made pushing the archive

[earnest yew]

idk

people are stupid man

[livid rapids]

exactly, 32bit arguably needed an installer because of manual patches and whatnot

[earnest yew]

plus i made it cause i was bored

[livid rapids]

but you're right, better be prepared when people flock onto remix from hl2rtx and don't even know where their gmod install is

[subtle bison]

strelok brought in someone who works on gmod all of the time so both of our install guides might be outdated real soon

🙂

[earnest yew]

installer

[livid rapids]

Yeah I can see him with shaderapidx8 open

The prophecy...

[subtle bison]

yeah if they have the actual source for gmod, we most likely wont need lua workarounds or binary patches anymore

[quiet scroll]

OMGGGGGG like a facepunch gmod dev guy?

[subtle bison]

im a little sad, having worked weeks on it, but at the same time glad a better solution might be on the way

[quiet scroll]

HUGEEEEEE

[livid rapids]

gmod source isn't available, sdk 2013 is

[quiet scroll]

Your hard wok will not die unnoticed CR

[livid rapids]

and csgo 2017

and tf2 2008

and many others

[subtle bison]

i dont think shaderapidx9 and others are available in the gmod source sdk

yet their rich presence shows it 👁️

[livid rapids]

if you have a rough estimate of what a binary should be you can "guess" what changes have been made

[subtle bison]

yeah its probably fixing up the FF renderer

[earnest yew]

okay i just made it so it dosent require a unziped folder anymore

chatgpt thank you

idk how to make shit unzip

[livid rapids]

uh

since when do 3d skyboxes work

there's z-fighting, the actual map can even be seen in the skybox but it's there

[subtle bison]

turn off the custom world renderer

it should fix the map rendering twice

[livid rapids]

props can still be seen

[subtle bison]

ah that's weird

[livid rapids]

turning cwr on back again killed the 2d skybox

hdri it is!

[subtle bison]

is this with 0.3?

[livid rapids]

yeah

[subtle bison]

it shouldnt break the skybox at all

what map?

[livid rapids]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3245626404

it isn't like it does with shader skyboxes, it just turned it pitch black

oh

[livid rapids]

turning remix capture on and off fixed it

[subtle bison]

ah

yeah toggling the cwr doesnt break the skybox for me

some weird z fighting with the ground though

[livid rapids]

yeah that's the 3d skybox

[subtle bison]

guess remix doesnt like it

[livid rapids]

since it's placed exactly where the map's ground is

[subtle bison]

lemme see if there is any runtime settings to fix it

[livid rapids]

It's not a remix thing, it would show up even in normal gmod but maybe it can be fixed

[subtle bison]

yea it can be fixed,i found it

definitely gonna vary by map, change reprojected sky scale to 17

its just one value above the default

[livid rapids]

also I had pseudoplayer disabled, I enabled it, retried and:

Man made horror

[earnest yew]

https://tenor.com/view/bald-bald-head-shiny-bald-head-sponge-bob-sponge-bob-square-pants-gif-4830356535569685568

[subtle bison]

yea some weird vertex stuff

[livid rapids]

it's exactly where I spawned

So going out of bounds causes vertex explosions, but when you come back into bounds it fixes itself and the weird pseudoplayer vertexes

[subtle bison]

just on that map?

[livid rapids]

Haven't tested any other maps

[subtle bison]

gm_construct_11 seems to be fine for me

[livid rapids]

also gm_okinawa still doesn't load 😭

[subtle bison]

hmm lemme try it

oh the yakuza 3 map lol

[livid rapids]

no crashes or anything it gets stuck on Loading world

Yeah that's me I'm yakuza3remastered

https://tenor.com/view/kiryu-kazuma-kiryu-haruka-haruka-sawamura-yakuza-gif-22096640

[subtle bison]

its something with the map

visual studio debug output

and it keeps repeating

could try extracting the gma and remove the problematic material

ah its baked

welp nvm lol

[livid rapids]

bummer

If we only had the vmf...

[subtle bison]

idk if decompiling it would even work

i dont think it pulls the materials with the file

i've only ever used bspsrc though

[livid rapids]

bspsource?

yeah

[subtle bison]

ill take a crack at it

[livid rapids]

bspsrc does extract baked materials

[subtle bison]

ok then we're in business

ahhh

yea thats one weird water vmf

[livid rapids]

waterlod proxy is just empty 💀

[subtle bison]

im gonna override the vmt with lightmapped generic

ok so material override is not enough, i gotta build the decompiled map without the baked materials so it actually loads it

[livid rapids]

uh oh

[subtle bison]

hu, kamp kairo should be fine 😭

i test that map all of the time

[livid rapids]

changed view frustum to 4096

back to 256, ground explosions are gone but those concrete walls stay the same

cwr off fixed it

[subtle bison]

you are good at triggering vertex explosions

did these happen on 0.2?

the only major change was using a newer patchset of blueamulet's patches

which allowed CEF to work

[livid rapids]

I did not test 0.2 that much but I didn't encounter any

[subtle bison]

this map does not like remix

there is a lot of seperate rendering issues happening

[livid rapids]

holy blue

[subtle bison]

mat_fullbright being forced despite it being compiled for LDR, remix is struggling to find a camera which is why a lot of stuff is missing

lots of random vertex explosions

HDRI editor still works

oh this map uses a shader skybox

thats why all of this is happening

ugh i wish there was a easy way to turn that off other than manipulating materials

[livid rapids]

I see it using something like a normal 2d skybox here?

Or maybe it's a dome on the 3d

[subtle bison]

it has skinned skybox textures in its material directory

got the camera fixed

might be able to salvage this map

still dont know why fullbright is being forced

its definitely compiler related

might be worth adding a seperate noCEF archive to fix the rendering issues

for those who dont care about workshop dupes or media players

hell

yea im probably gonna give up, i tried forcing LDR, and even optional HDR during compilation

mat_fullbright just gets forced anyway

gonnna try importing a CS2 map into gmod with remix

super curious on how this is gonna turn out

[earnest yew]

how does one even achieve that

[subtle bison]

importing the map into blender with sourceio, export as one large USD scene with the materials.
make a low-poly version to import into source for the collision mesh

the hard part is gonna be somehow turning an entire map into a collison mesh, i have never done that stuff with source before

[earnest yew]

sauce

[subtle bison]

guess we'll see how it turns out

[livid rapids]

I mean as long as you can get it into blender you can import anything

[subtle bison]

yea i meant more like exporting for source

i havent done much model exporting for it before

only materials

[livid rapids]

I mean into remix via USD

[subtle bison]

yeah thats not hard

[livid rapids]

But yeah I would'nt know about making a collision mesh

[subtle bison]

just exploring the map in CS2, good god its pretty

🤤

[earnest yew]

anyone know if its possible to load two d3d9 filess

ik that sounds dumb

but just asking

[subtle bison]

depends on what both d3d9 files are

[earnest yew]

ones a shader override mod

that uses d3d9

[subtle bison]

does one support hotloading another dll file?

the short answer is no for your original question unless one of them allows chain-loading dlls

[earnest yew]

i have zero clue for that

[subtle bison]

nvm the actual hard part is praying blender wont crash after loading all map entities at once

https://youtu.be/bCDta3rhxSg

[earnest yew]

oh no yeah

ive tried before

especially deadlock crashes

[subtle bison]

i have 64 gb of ram, im gonna get some coffee and pray

[earnest yew]

nvm ur good

[subtle bison]

i am quickly running out of vram

but we're almost there

(i somehow flipped the camera while it was loading)

my pc is not happy

not sure why im missing some materials though

is this what i get for loading all of it at once?

[earnest yew]

alot of matrials dont work

materials

needs manual work

[subtle bison]

🥹

i was under the impression sourceio was complete in that area

😭

oh

guess ill try a WIP USD export anyway just to see how remix handles some of it

[stable scarab]

wich gpu u have?

[earnest yew]

you might be the first person ive seen using blender4artists

[subtle bison]

just trying it out lol

i've used normal blender for eons

definitely like the new coat of paint

[livid rapids]

3060 12gb

surprised these particles work

it's very faint but lights do show up just like the mwii rpg

[subtle bison]

lol it worked
i might need to use the nvidia blender, the USD export did not get the textures

[livid rapids]

battlefield 9 leak!!

[steel lark]

do the pbr for gmod.exe from 32 bits work in 64 bits?

[livid rapids]

Yes

Looks like one of those cod reload vids

[earnest yew]

fortnite

[quiet scroll]

omg that's messing with my brain, where does the map stop and the skyline start lmaoooo

[livid rapids]

it's all hdri

[livid rapids]

there we go

[earnest yew]

mmmmm

saturation

[subtle bison]

this will be csgo in 2013

[earnest yew]

2014....

[earnest yew]

flying cars they said

rtx remix we got

[subtle bison]

even better

once we get all of the native transformer stuff in remix, stuff is gonna look so good

[earnest yew]

was dat

[subtle bison]

february cant come sooner enough

[livid rapids]

I thought the stars were flickering but that's just dlss 💀

[earnest yew]

new dlls?

[subtle bison]

yea we already have the DLSS 4 dlls from cp2077 working in remix, but not all of the features are there

[modern quest]

DLSS DLLs

[subtle bison]

portal rtx's upcoming update should bring everything over

[earnest yew]

nah im just asking if he is using them in general

[subtle bison]

hana is yes

[earnest yew]

sonic adventure has less motion blur

[noble vapor]

I'll rematch heat this way

[steel lark]

the DLSS DLLs are on my SSD lmao

[earnest yew]

@subtle bison

can you help me with debugging a .exe

i think your very smart

[quiet scroll]

*you’re

[quiet scroll]

sensible redecorations

gmod maps will have really fancy tables and chairs, and then throw in a foldable table cuz that's all they have

kinda hurts my brain 😅

Ehhhh what do y'all think, does this look fancy bathroom-y? (ignore the lighting I haven't touched it yet)

[noble vapor]

Yeah it does

[compact blaze]

i wanna ask do u know when this mod is planned on releasing?

[willow fog]

Another day, another person asking Hana if the mod will be released

[livid rapids]

The mod will be Released

That's all

[lament quartz]

Never going to release I've decided

[compact blaze]

Sry, I don’t go on here that often and I just wanted to ask

Hope I wasn’t bugging at all

[subtle bison]

can anyone else try this?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3334367687

it seems to actually boost performance quite a bit without breaking rendering

at least in large maps

it also uses niknaks which is a plus

nvm it seems to cause some maps to crash

[subtle bison]

yep its still working fine on my end

[drifting hinge]

there will never be a gmod fps booster that doesnt shit your graphics and make it look like xbox hl2

[subtle bison]

this addon actually doesnt do anything like that

it actually modifies a lot of systems in the engine to be faster

[drifting hinge]

theres no way

[subtle bison]

i also got it working

i had to disable two settings

the hard part is getting into a map to disable them lol

[drifting hinge]

billions must have 200+ fps constantly

[subtle bison]

all of the ones i unchecked are the ones that crash the game

but yeah a lot of cpu heavy maps run better

[drifting hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-old-man-shaking-head-gif-3938163323164042530

2025 gonna be so good for gmod

[loud mural]

This isn't for rendering but this is also nice;

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1907060869

[subtle bison]

i imagine it conflcits with lithium but ill give it a try

[loud mural]

Very likely it conflicts with the hook module

Although it may be better than it since its dedicated

[subtle bison]

i wonder if i can get away with turning it off and see if they work together

[loud mural]

Yeah exactly

[subtle bison]

dear lord

gmod tower christmas lobby

one of the heaviest maps

running above 60fps

im pretty sure im gpu bound

[drifting hinge]

like i said, its peak

[subtle bison]

it definitely works

[loud mural]

Niice

[subtle bison]

i wonder if it speeds up my other addons

since it replaces all engine hooks right?

[loud mural]

idk about all but a lot of slow ones

[subtle bison]

the view frustrum one gets really heavy when you start increasing render bounds

[loud mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnSrXQn3ndA

[subtle bison]

ill try going from 256 to 1024 on both settings

[loud mural]

That video is old but it give you an idea how much faster it is

[subtle bison]

1024 dist has never ran this good

[loud mural]

gg

[subtle bison]

obviously we're still losing performance, but less is being culled

so it makes sense

but it looks like a lot of the overhead is gone

[loud mural]

Is that exclusively due to the hook library or is it both Lithium and the hook library together?

[subtle bison]

together, the external hook library gave a little boost above lithium's own

lithium is doing some stuff to the PVS to prevent rendering things behind walls which also helps a lot

but i think the majority of the weight came from my hooks

smaller maps have no penalty wow lol

oops wrong pic

i can finally lock these settings and not expose them to the user

🔥

[loud mural]

Hell yeah

[subtle bison]

ill definitely make a 0.4 release with these addoms, ill have to make a config.vdf with the right settings so lithium and the external hook wont clash for new users

ok so nvm

some maps still run at like 6fps with those settings lmfao

i need to add some kind of heuristics to the view frustrum addon to automatically set the values for a good balance of culling and performance

[compact blaze]

Does it actually work compared to other fps boost addons that either do nothing or just enable multi core rendering?

[loud mural]

If you read the description it does a lot more than those

[loud mural]

It comes with these options as well in-game

[compact blaze]

For 32bit right?

[subtle bison]

nah this is only x64

x32 doesnt need any of this

[compact blaze]

Ah ok

[compact blaze]

Shame cause I really wanna use the 32x mod but I don’t wanna go through a weird installer, do you know if they’ll make a version where you can install it manually?

Ik it’s like a 10% chance the person who made it had it be a virus but the option for a manual install would be great don’t u think?

[subtle bison]

the installer is a glorified archive, just extract it with a tool like 7zip

also the installer itself is open source

skurty uses a base archive just like me

[compact blaze]

Ah ok ty

[subtle bison]

why only x32?

just curious

[compact blaze]

From what I understand 64x is alot more unstable compared to 32x with remix

[subtle bison]

x64 is more stable than x32 now

[compact blaze]

Oh really? Even with remix

[subtle bison]

yeah

we still have the same rendering issues that comes with FF in source but performance and stability are definitely higher on x64

if you want to try it, check the pinned messages

the more testing the better for me

[compact blaze]

dw already have installed, just thought it was worth it to switch to 32x

ty so much for letting me know

still remember that one video from late december 2022 when people just started using remix in gmod

[subtle bison]

wow, gm_construct_remastered actually looking good now 🤤

[stable scarab]

looks like photo realistic

[compact blaze]

I need that transformer model to come out rn omg

I can’t wait

Shame how much dlss blurs the Image, hope transformer negates that a little

[stable scarab]

you don't have Cyberpunk 2077?

you can download it as well

[compact blaze]

I think u should word cyberpunk a different way

Also I’m waiting for rtx remix to get official implementation through portal rtx since I think it’d be more complete and better fine tuned for it

[lament quartz]

Alright chat its 64 bit time

[stable scarab]

Oi

[lament quartz]

@subtle bison I put my aura mod into gmod and I think I broke it

or maybe I didnt install right cuz its still not fixzed for me ig?

[subtle bison]

try restarting your game

something broke the render target

also ngl i should remove render targets and make the HDRI editor use normal source .vtf files 💀

this shit is getting on my nerves, i already precompute the images so there is no need for it

[lyric surge]

was working fine and now it does this, maybe im looking in the wrong places but i cant find a fix

re installed it several times too

maybe small brain moment but idk

[subtle bison]

@lyric surge

[lyric surge]

thanks but didnt work?

shouldve clarified sorry

i can launch the game

but whenever i try playing a map

it'll say ready to play

then boom

[subtle bison]

ye that file is supposed to fix it

[lyric surge]

weird

[subtle bison]

try the x64 version, it doesnt rely on bridge

[lyric surge]

maybe i just need to reinstall gmod itself

[subtle bison]

the guide is pinned, make sure u use a clean gmod install

[lyric surge]

alr thanks

im dumb as a rock when it comes to this stuff so thx

[subtle bison]

the x64 one is pretty ez

drag n drop basically

[lyric surge]

alright cool

[subtle bison]

make sure u launch the new gmod install once before installing the mod

[lyric surge]

weird how it decided to just not work one day

[subtle bison]

gmod has some weird drm

[subtle bison]

if you installed it to the defaut gmod location, steam will update it and break it

[lyric surge]

in common?

[subtle bison]

its recommended to rename the gmod folder to something like GarrysModRTX so it doesnt update it

[subtle bison]

ye

[lyric surge]

ye i did

ill try 64

[subtle bison]

yea then the bridge was acting up ig

[lyric surge]

im excited to upgrade soon though cause

i have to run this at low

on my ancient 2060

[subtle bison]

i have a 2080 so im not too far off lol

the perks of developing this mod on it is that i can make sure a lot of stuff is optimized

[lyric surge]

i kinda turn the dlss or whatever its called up and go on high just to kind of have the experience of what most people see

even though its like a

fever dream

[lyric surge]

thats cool

ngl 2060 from how long ive had it has done me well

either that or people are good at optmizing

or both

[subtle bison]

ok no more render targets, this will fix your issues too @fallow mesa

i have to manually update all of the hashes though so its gonna be a bit until i push a new ver

[lyric surge]

i assume id look up like an rtx remix guide for doing pbr stuff

[subtle bison]

yea

[lyric surge]

i can do my custom textures right

[subtle bison]

yeah textures are fine

[lyric surge]

ive got some pbr materials ive made beforehand

[subtle bison]

nothing source engine specific other than replacing models, its very dicy

skinned meshes have unstable hashes so you wont be able to replace them in the toolkit

you should be able to get away with replacing them in the engine itself of course

[lyric surge]

yeah ill have to read / watch a few guides on it

[subtle bison]

nvm this doesnt work

for whatever reason the model hash changes between game sessions so uhh yea 🥹

render targets it is

maybe i can find some way to make them more stable for other users

[lament quartz]

what map is this btw

[earnest yew]

yay

instead of it needing the .zip the installer just downloads the lastest from github

[subtle bison]

a random cinema map

i spawned a custom sized media player

the actual gamemode prob works fine

[lament quartz]

I see

[earnest yew]

you should add the .bat to the github

only if you wanna

since it just uses the github now

[lament quartz]

60 fps hdri is crazy

[lament quartz]

also how did you get them to raytrace? anything specific?

[subtle bison]

nothing, they just work

[lament quartz]

nvm

rtxception

[subtle bison]

btw u can hide the plastic wall by using the color tool with a alpha of zero

just shoot the back of it

[lament quartz]

oh coo;l

[subtle bison]

am i looking at one or two

is it affixed to the wall

[lament quartz]

1, there is a screen behind it from the base map

its not in the same scale unfortunetally

ok chat

[quiet scroll]

That's actually one of the coolest thing's I've ever seen in Remix lmaoooo

Is the map like Gm_theater or something?

[lament quartz]

Gm_modern theater

[loud mural]

POV you have a mini LED backlit TV

[loud mural]

Do you know if this still happening btw?

[subtle bison]

never got a reply so no idea

[loud mural]

Damn ight

[subtle bison]

if nothing comes of it ill try to tackle it myself

though its gonna have to be through custom made systems most likely

eye rendering is something i really want to get working

[loud mural]

You mean something built without GLua?

[lament quartz]

(Before mods freak out, this a public ytb video) i found a better theater "gm_theater" @quiet scroll

[subtle bison]

ideally as much lua as possible since im more familar there. But most likely its gonna be through the binary module with some lua interfaces

[lament quartz]

Galleh why does discord bake the video sm

[subtle bison]

looks fine to me

[lament quartz]

Looks baked to me

[loud mural]

xoxor4d seems like he's either done or taking a long break so I guess no mutiplayer for a long time

not that I don't appreciate your work ofc

[subtle bison]

lol

does MP work in p2?

[loud mural]

I mean if you host or the server host has the mods I'd imagine it does. I haven't even tested x64 yet lol

But ofc none of your Lua stuff will work on most servers

[subtle bison]

oh you're talking about gmod

[loud mural]

Yeah

[loud mural]

Not really

[subtle bison]

uhh it can probably work, someone mentioned there is a console command to force load the module and client lua files

i dont change anything on the server end

[loud mural]

That'd be nice, I guess we'll see when and how that's implemented then

[loud mural]

It's all kinds of fucked with portals not working and the playermodel rendering in the camera view

He worked on it a tiny bit

But also you can't have more then a couple sets of portals before shit starts to break iirc

[subtle bison]

ngl that sounds like a pain to fix

imagne the engine load with more than 2 portals

without culling especially

ouch

[loud mural]

Yeah a lot had to be done in Remix itself because it has portal limitations

[loud mural]

Honestly it wasn't bad in the Mutiplayer Mod and we had like 10 - 20 sets at once in maps like finale1

[subtle bison]

but thats without remix right?

i meant like the engine load with the tweaks xoxor4d has done

i think even on my 2080, portal 2 rtx is mostly cpu bound for me

[loud mural]

True I forgot how much backface culling and frustrum culling help ig

[subtle bison]

yea

[loud mural]

ughh why does sorce have to sorce

[subtle bison]

im surprised we get good performance with all of the lua chicanery we do on x64

[loud mural]

Well it's a lot better with the perf addons now

[subtle bison]

engine culling and stuff is still there but just covered up with the custom world rendering and stuff

frustrum culling is still the biggest hitter but i have some ideas to get performance back other than auto adjusting variables

just gotta be more selective about what needs to be rendered around the player

maybe the larger the bounding box of a static prop, the larger render bounds

like trees and stuff

since they cast longer shadows

[loud mural]

Yeah but depending on where the object is even if it's a bit smaller and directly behind you it can still cast shadows into the viewable area depending on where it is in relation to other light sources. It will be a balance I guess

[subtle bison]

yeah, the heuristics is gonna be the "fun" part

but im excited to try stuff out

i wanted to go back to the idea of using the existing engine PVS to compute what's visible around the player, but it was expensive in lua so i had to remove it

[loud mural]

Maybe it's more feasible now with the optimized hooks?

[subtle bison]

maybe, we still need to be more careful about setting the render bounds per object

small stuff shouldnt have massive render bounds, otherwise we're wasting performance for stuff we probably cant see

the rtx light updaters are the worst offenders for some reason, but the API lights are so unstable i'm willing to figure something else out

[loud mural]

Didn't you say at some point if it were possible rendering all everything exclusively in FF and doing hardware skinning stead of software would bring some pretty large perf improvements?

[subtle bison]

i might've said some of those things. Early on in the binary module, i sorta got a FF renderer working, at least enough for remix to grab the camera

while entirely still in SM3 and dx95

but model transforms were completely broken and i couldnt figure it out at the time

i would have to pull a xoxor4d to make a fully fledged system

im not that skilled at doing that stuff so im holding off on it still

[loud mural]

Alright well thanks for the info, I may have a solution to that in the coming months but don't count on it lol

Do you know anyone who could other than xoxor4d?

[subtle bison]

the guy strelok brought in

but like i said they havent replied back yet

[loud mural]

And no one else but those two that you know of?

[subtle bison]

nah, best to ask xenthio for other people

[loud mural]

Alright modular

[subtle bison]

the guy developing gwater2 could probably figure it out lol

but i dont know him

[loud mural]

Oh yeah Mee probably could although I don't think I've ever seen him go as far as modifying the actual game .dlls

[subtle bison]

the straightfoward approach would be figuring out what the prelude rtx team did for materialsystem/shaderapidx9 to fix the eyes and shader particle systems. im not sure how much of that can be done via IDA/ghidra, but blueamulet and i think another person figured out most if not all patches we have so far

found it lol

so cursed

[loud mural]

Yeah I remember when you were doing this lol

If you turn off RT mode in Remix in Portal 2 RTX you can see similar shit happening

I think it's something to do with batched rendering

But don't quote me on that lol

That's also what's causing all the hashes to be fucked as well I think

[subtle bison]

if i knew where/how to find the signatures that are responsible for dxlevel control, i'd decouple model and world rendering to FF and keep the rest of the systems shader based, but that sounds insanely difficult.

it'd be much faster than trying to make a FF renderer from scratch, but im pretty sure the long-term solution would be that

idfk

[loud mural]

FF renderer from scratch sounds like it's ready to get fucked every time Rubat does any changes to the way rendering works but yeah I agree ideally we'd have FF

[subtle bison]

the other way is have xoxor4d find the offsets for gmod x64 for his p2-rtx mod lol

im not sure how much is different from the p2 engine to modified SDK 2013 but i imagine it wouldnt be much to fixup on his end

[loud mural]

When HL2 RTX comes out we could also compare that to SDK Base 2013

I imagine it will be more optimized in some ways

[subtle bison]

yeah, though if its 32-bit we'll still have difficulties porting to x64

[loud mural]

That's either way though

[subtle bison]

mostly due to compiler differences, as tf2 x64 has way more in common with 32-bit sdk 2013 than x64 gmod for whatever reason

at least for me when looking at functions side-by-side in IDA

[loud mural]

That's Facepunch for you lol

[subtle bison]

idk if they're trying obfuscate or they just use a modern toolchain

[loud mural]

Either way it makes me wanna do a flip

[loud mural]

I feel like it's both

[subtle bison]

trust me if we easily had patches for x64 i wouldnt be going through this LUA nightmare

[subtle bison]

i have a "specific" build of source that i've compiled with vs2022 that still matches tf2 x64 quite well

cough

so im leaning more towards obfuscation

[loud mural]

Do you mean leaning?

[subtle bison]

oops

ty lol

[loud mural]

np

[loud mural]

Exactly although I may be able to get someone to do that within the next couple months we'll see though

I've been closely watching both you and xoxor4d to see exactly what we need any why for if and when the time comes

[subtle bison]

lmao

so the golden age of gmod rtx is upon us?

/s

[loud mural]

Maybi

I hope

[subtle bison]

i think it would hurt s&box sales quite a bit if gmod just magically got a render engine makeover and all of the benefits of being x64

[loud mural]

That would be really funny honestly

[subtle bison]

i still wanna finish my cs2 map port

people gonna freak seeing a cs2 map in gmod

[loud mural]

Cheating

How are decals going to work?

And material sounds?

[subtle bison]

good point, the idea was to make a low-poly version of the map as a collision mesh to be imported into source

could split it up into multiple chunks

or even specific props

would take longer but definitely be more authentic

i think you mentioned the CSGO version of the map im messing with exists?

that would be the easy way out, but ngl i did want to try it from scratch

[loud mural]

Maybe split the collision mesh up into all 7 or so material sounds so you reduce draw calls

[loud mural]

Yeah there is a CS:GO version

[loud mural]

If only SIN's muti material system was merged

[subtle bison]

the what

👀

[loud mural]

In SIN Episodes 1 you were able to have more than a single material on a model, so for example when you shot someone's metal faceplate it would spark like metal but when you shot their body it would bleed

Even though it was all the same model

[subtle bison]

wtf

that sounds awesome

well as long as it had the tools on the artist/dev side to make it easy to add

[loud mural]

Then you could just have the entire collision mesh be one model and not have to split it up for each material type

[loud mural]

Yeah idk how that worked

[subtle bison]

in my head, it would kinda be like weight painting, you paint a color that corresponds with a material type

and you would end up with a texture/uv map that definites the material of that part of the model

so red = body
blue = metal
green = dirt

etc

[loud mural]

Yeah that's kinda what I imagined aswell

And then in the QC you'd define them or something

[subtle bison]

yea

wonder if that's possible to add into gmod 👁️

i need to stop coming up with new stuff to add and finish fixing shit lmfao

that's ADHD for you

[loud mural]

It seems like it is but a pain in the ass, there are some addons that claim to do it but don't work with say jumping for example or the material getting shot at

Well actually that's for being able to have the props material as a whole changed on the fly

Ignore my forgetfulness lol

[loud mural]

I have the opposite problem lmao

[subtle bison]

all good, i forget a lot all of the time

[loud mural]

thx

[fallow mesa]

I'll wait for the update 😄

[onyx ridge]

does the remix api allow for assigning textures

[earnest yew]

yes..?

wdym by that

[onyx ridge]

have remix fixes 2 allow addons to package pbr textures

[earnest yew]

[onyx ridge]

somewhere in an addon allow including the texture maps remix has
if you have the awesomer x64 remix stuff then if those textures are present assign them to the material when the addon's loaded

(or whenever's possible)

[quiet scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/hodhodaa-gif-21969781

fuck there's 2 of you

[earnest yew]

[quiet scroll]

I just had a mini stroke lmaoooo

[onyx ridge]

[drifting hinge]

the cloning machine is working

[quiet scroll]

good morning scraaanch

[drifting hinge]

evil morning

[quiet scroll]

make it un-evil

[drifting hinge]

good will always triumph over evil ahh reply

[quiet scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/flowersofamity-zendaya-yeah-okay-love-you-guys-dont-forget-to-smile-youtube-gif-13231003477822875517

[drifting hinge]

joyous reaction

[subtle bison]

yea i thought about adding this

just wonder if its even possible to publish remix stuff to the workshop tho

[livid rapids]

people upload VMFs as VMTs or PNGs, just a matter of renaming the file

I think the problem would be how would you go about interacting with the .gma

[onyx ridge]

you can store arbitrary data in an addon right

[stable scarab]

i see that you are using correctly the transformer model

[stoic moon]

why is there always halos around shadows

[fallow mesa]

what do you mean?

[modern quest]

there are no halos at all

[stoic moon]

sorry i dont think i used the right word

[modern quest]

i mean

it's fading out because it's further away from the source

[stoic moon]

but shadows have this weird smudgy look

im not talking about shadow diffusion

im talking about how sun shadows look like they have a gaussian blur filtered overlayed wherever theyre cast

[fallow mesa]

I think it's normal

[stoic moon]

that looks better

these are what im talking about tho

weird dark spots near shadows that look like a gaussian blur overlay

thats the best way i can describe them

[fallow mesa]

I think it's gonna be a ambient occlusion

[stoic moon]

ambient occlusion cast from the atmosphere isnt that directional

plus as you can see in the 2nd screenshot its not occluding blue light therefore it cant be from the atmostphere

[fallow mesa]

you have set remix to ultra yet?

medium

high-ultra

[steel lark]

can you send the config file if that's possible?

[subtle bison]

it'll be included in the next release

[subtle bison]

its most likely from the amount of denoising from RR and DLSS

remix's path tracer is a little biased so its not gonna look as clean as blender cycles for example

[subtle bison]

@loud mural I've updated the issue list with some more things i remembered, let me know if im missing anything
https://github.com/Xenthio/gmod-rtx-fixes-2/blob/main/README.md#known-issues-and-stuff-that-doesnt-work

[half viper]

@subtle bison how well does tacrp weapons work?

[subtle bison]

no idea, try them out

arc9 and mw base work so I don't aee why that wouldn't

[drifting hinge]

arc9

[livid rapids]

mwb is definitely precaching textures

[subtle bison]

yeah left a note on the github page about it

i was wondering why my vram was almost out when loading into a map

[loud mural]

Model replacement doesn't work due to unstable hashes

[subtle bison]

iirc a good bit of models can be replaced, just not ones with skinned meshes

unless our x64 stuff broke it entirely

🙂

but it for sure worked for x32

[compact blaze]

What would count as models with skinned meshes?