#Chess Titans

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viral cypress
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How much time it takes to convert materials Is it something that could be automated?

sick flint
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They are under the academic software license (?). I checked it out, it can be distributed as a demo of hardware or software.

sick flint
sly root
sick flint
sly root
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i haven't found a single game (that i like) that i've been able to do mesh replacements in 😦

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so this should be fun 🙂

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also wow that upload speed. very jealous, lol

sick flint
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It's over wifi too

sly root
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i just got an internet upgrade, and can now upload at 2 MB/s 😛

viral cypress
sly root
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same for me for the last 10 years

sick flint
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I had gigabit at one point

sly root
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10mbps on a $90 internet plan is just sad

sick flint
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1400Mb/s down, ~700Mb/s up. But nothing really was able to use it fully cause it was so hard on residental hardware

sly root
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wow

sick flint
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Maybe add the ivy and candles next monkaHmm

viral cypress
viral cypress
sly root
viral cypress
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Damn I wish we had something similar to the chess game in harry p 1

sly root
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i'm in Florida

sick flint
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[Removed link]
REMEMBER You must setup you rtx.conf to not have enhanced assets enabled when launching! You have to launch the game and then enable them other wise it'll hang on loading the USD. This is Intel's Sponza scene converted to USD for remix.

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Oh and the green room test stage can be used by switching to the other mod usda via renaming

sick flint
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And you'll want to use the x32dbg patch from the repo

viral cypress
sly root
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for $90, my download speed was 300 to be clear. i forgot to mention that

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only with a $120 500 mbps plan (promotional pricing btw) do you get 20mbps

sick flint
sly root
viral cypress
sly root
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afaik they're just cheaping out. they claim it does but i really doubt it

sick flint
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Greedy ISPs here

sly root
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plus they rake in so much profit that they could easily upgrade everything

viral cypress
sly root
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or just install fiber everywhere

sick flint
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I grew up with 5Mb/s down and 1Mb/s up till like 2015/16

sly root
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megabytes?

sick flint
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Ha

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No

sly root
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Mb is megabit

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so i'm confused, lol

sick flint
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I should go to sleep. My cat is demanding it

sly root
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i had 1/1 until 2012, and 10/1 until 2018 (megabits)

sly root
viral cypress
sick flint
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Ya'll have fun melting your GPUs with sponza

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Lemme know if it works on your guys machines

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Bonus points for anyone with a 4090 who runs it at full resolution KEK

sly root
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i'm gonna try it with my 3090 at full res 1440p, lol

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i get around 25 FPS in Portal RTX that way

sick flint
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I can run the base game with nicer materials at 1440p at like 40fps

viral cypress
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Can it run Chess Titans lol

sick flint
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Yea, 1440p at full res

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Sponza is seemed fluid. Felt like it was in the 60 to 40 fps range maybe? Someone better at reading frametimes could tell from my charts.

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Oh I found the post with the tri count, it's actually 5.7mill #1110245358040260668 message

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So anyone wondering if remix can handle high poly, guess this shows it can

sly root
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hm

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opening the remix overlay freezes the game for me, even without replacements

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info: [RTX Opacity Micromap] Out of memory budget. Requested: 206103848 bytes. Free: 186791032 bytes, Budget: 1610612736 bytes
umm

dim delta
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Are you using the modified exe?

sly root
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lol oops

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i followed all of the steps, but was indeed running the wrong exe

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actually i need to run it though that powershell script

hidden elk
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20 mbits up/down

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Ain't the best, but it works

sick flint
sly root
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okay, having followed all of the steps, i'm just getting a rasterized full screen version of the game, no Remix hook

sly root
sick flint
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Got the d3d8 DLL?

sly root
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the steps call for d3d9

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is it actually d3d8?

sick flint
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Oh no it’s d3d9.dll that’s the one for the conversion. I forgot

hidden elk
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Forgor

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💀

sly root
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i have no idea what's wrong then

sick flint
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Try modifying the xml file to make sure it got changed

dim delta
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Well from when I was last playing around with this fullscreen caused issues

sly root
sick flint
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Is full screen set to false in it?

viral cypress
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Hello

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whats wrong with the script

sly root
sly root
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or rather, dxwrapper. it seems to just not hook remix at all for me

viral cypress
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you need to rename the dxwrapper to d3d9.dll and the ini

sly root
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this is very unstable though. it crashed a couple times for me already

sick flint
viral cypress
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I take it from here

viral cypress
sly root
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yes

viral cypress
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And you used the config in the repo

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which has this line: RealDllPath = bridge_d3d9.dll

sly root
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yes

viral cypress
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weird, you sure you're using the 32 bit version?

sly root
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yup

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i followed all of the steps exactly as they said

viral cypress
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And yet dxwrapper doesn't generate a log

sick flint
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I think I renamed mine to d3d9_bridge or get it to work

sly root
sly root
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well that'd do it

viral cypress
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Ah I mistyped it

sick flint
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Oh yes I remember that typo now

sly root
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what's the purpose of the wrapper anyway?

viral cypress
sly root
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it was doing that for me before dxwrapper, lol

viral cypress
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the script is there to enforce the required settings to get fullscreen working which resets every time

sly root
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but using dxwrapper seems to eliminate all of the instability i had

viral cypress
sly root
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yeah, no idea

viral cypress
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Does it work now?

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the dxwrapper, remix and the script

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I gotta fix everything before much complain 🙂

sly root
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seems to

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you should note in the steps that users need to change their resolution in the script though

sly root
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also, what's the rtx.conf setting to disable enhancements?

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i tried rtx.enableReplacementAssets = 0 with no luck

sick flint
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I posted my RTX conf in the repo

sly root
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ah, good

viral cypress
sly root
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mm

sick flint
sly root
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it doesn't let you do that unless you have some replacements already

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i just forgot it was true and false rather than 1 or 0

sick flint
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Oh I turned off sponza and then did it so the game started

sly root
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hmmm

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it's still trying to load the assets?

sick flint
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Yea it will, but it’ll actually finish loading them

sly root
sly root
sick flint
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Getting there slowly

sly root
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apparently it's crashing my GPU Driver

sick flint
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I launch the game with x32dbg, apply the patch, and the unpause x32 to let the game run.

viral cypress
sly root
viral cypress
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I mean I regularly launch the exe not from a debugger

sly root
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i'm definitely using the patch 😦

sick flint
sly root
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but i'll run the exe and it'll suddenly just crash. bridge gets stuck in background

sick flint
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Oh yea

viral cypress
sick flint
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It does that

sly root
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also it's definitely not loading those assets. it's been frozen for over 2 minutes

sly root
sick flint
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It’ll load instantly or crash

sly root
sly root
viral cypress
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Does it always crash on loading?

sick flint
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You might wanna use the green room mod usda to make sure things are working before going to sponza

viral cypress
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Where

sly root
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this time i was able to finally load in far enough to open the remix menu to even turn on the replacements

sick flint
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In the mega 7z I posted

viral cypress
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I am trying the sponza now

viral cypress
sick flint
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Might of needed to build shader cache

sly root
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well, no. the board and pieces changed

sly root
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replacements off

viral cypress
sly root
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no

viral cypress
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the pieces are done by replacing the material

viral cypress
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@sick flint

sly root
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lol, so much for sleep

sick flint
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I think it’s on the wooden board

viral cypress
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I can confirm sponza crashes on 6gb of vram

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at least I tried

sick flint
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Rip

sly root
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okay

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this is doing some weird shit with my GPU that i don't like, so i'm gonna not try this anymore

viral cypress
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But green room works 💚

sly root
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when i disabled reflex, it corrupted the remix overlay and then crashed the driver

viral cypress
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my 2060 can handle it

sly root
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that was with just basic enhancements

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something weird is going on

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i'm just gonna not mess with it anymore

viral cypress
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loving it

sly root
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yeah. i updated my GPU Driver just to see and it's still crashing. when i enable enhanced assets (just green room) it crashes my driver. it only worked twice

sly root
viral cypress
sly root
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hm

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well, i just hope it's not my GPU. i'd have a breakdown

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i don't see why it would be. i can run anything else with Remix without issue

viral cypress
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The bottles on the mirror don't have refractions

sly root
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btw to see if it's crashing your driver, open Event Viewer, and go to Windows Logs>System

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it doesn't always flash the screen black

viral cypress
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yea

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\Device\Video3
Error occurred on GPUID: 900

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What does yours say

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in the log

sly root
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what's that labelled under?

viral cypress
sly root
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Error 9/18/2023 4:29:05 AM nvlddmkm 0 None

Error occurred on GPUID: 700```
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okay

viral cypress
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Yea mine is crashing as well

sly root
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so something is definitely sad, lol

viral cypress
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Noice

sly root
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well, thanks for verifying. i feel a lot less anxious now

viral cypress
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So it doesn't flicker because its windowed right?

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it would be if that was real fullscreen

sly root
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i don't know why it doesn't flicker. sometimes things crash the driver lightly enough that it doesn't, i guess?

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i don't think it's related solely to fullscreen

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it did flash black a couple times for me, and not others

viral cypress
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While playing with chess titans

sly root
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you can see here what it did to the remix GUI

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it also started moving text all over on the right side

viral cypress
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I haven't seen such thing

sly root
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it happened when i disabled Reflex

viral cypress
sly root
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after enabling the greenroom enhancements

viral cypress
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Alright mine briefly messes up the menu

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then goes to normal again

sly root
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interesting

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what exactly did it do? did it corrupt text or visual elements?

viral cypress
sly root
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i bet this game is doing some wild DX API calls

viral cypress
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But crashed way sooner

sly root
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wow, that's even worse than mine

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that's exactly it though

viral cypress
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Maybe its just the sudden change in gpu clocks causing this

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Btw I just realized the default sky works again

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Its just too dark

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set the sky brightness to somehting like 100

sick flint
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I rise from slumber

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No one able to tame sponza?

hidden elk
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I'd try it but I don't know where to start

rocky minnow
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start from ||somewhere||

hidden elk
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thx

viral cypress
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I made a video showing how to patch the binary

rocky minnow
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@viral cypress can you make rooms with the software i mentioned before, it can make home designs and place props but i think designing simple-ish rooms would do

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i want to learn how to import it as a mesh inside remix

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as mesh replacements

sick flint
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You'd export it to a fbx/obj, then use blender to convert it to a single USD, then attach it to the board

rocky minnow
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i have a room idea

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gonna try real quick

rocky minnow
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thinking of something like this

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ignore my old 2007 renderer for a moment

sick flint
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I was thinking about doing that with the living room test render scene NODDERS

rocky minnow
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i don't know about remix detecting lights so you gotta add it yourself if i ever finish this

rocky minnow
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how about this lol

sick flint
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The table lamps will look better than candles since we don't have flame animation

rocky minnow
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oh yeah

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right on!

rocky minnow
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@sick flint got any suggestion on what i should decorate on with the table

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your had this collection of glasses to show the reflective properties

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as well as refraction

rocky minnow
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well that's my living room with the chess in the middle

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now to export it as .obj

rocky minnow
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think we can scale this to fit the chess board perfectly?

viral cypress
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How its going

rocky minnow
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I have the obj saved

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For my room model

viral cypress
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How many child objects does it have

rocky minnow
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Probably a few 50 or under it

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I will share it in 5 hours if you're online

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Idk how to use blender

storm oar
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Chess Titans is not working with non-rtx gpus

viral cypress
storm oar
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crashing at startup during loading

viral cypress
storm oar
viral cypress
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what gpu do you have

storm oar
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7900 XTX

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There is an exception on the Ray Query thread

viral cypress
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Try putting this into dxvk.conf: d3d9.maxFrameLatency = 100

storm oar
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still crashing it does not work

viral cypress
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Do you have any other game working with remix?

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This doesn't sound like an issue with the game itself

storm oar
viral cypress
viral cypress
storm oar
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no i did not try them, i will try minetest

viral cypress
storm oar
# viral cypress Any updates?

I saw the thread in remix-projects about minetest but it says that i have to install remix in the game and i don't know how. I can not run the remix executable downloaded from nvidia's github because i don't have nvidia gpu

viral cypress
viral cypress
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You don't actually need the NvRemixLauncher32.exe

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or the licence files of course

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Don't forget to do the steps specific to chess titans #1110245358040260668 message

viral cypress
storm oar
rocky minnow
storm oar
# viral cypress Any updates?

I successfully installed remix in minetest but the whole game is black (i can open remix ui but crashing while recompiling shaders)

viral cypress
storm oar
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yes but the light is black

viral cypress
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Try enabling sky auto detection from game setup -> parameter tuning -> sky options

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tho I remember it wasn't working in Minetest

storm oar
viral cypress
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Everything but sky should have a tone of red

storm oar
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clouds are red and the sky is black, if i start the game i am "stuck" in a red cube

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in the d3d9.log the log ends with this lines

info: RenderPass GBuffer Raytrace Mode: Ray Query (CS)
info: RenderPass Integrate Direct Raytrace Mode: Ray Query (CS)
info: RenderPass Integrate Indirect Raytrace Mode: Ray Query (CS)
info: Presenter: Actual swap chain properties:
info: Format: VK_FORMAT_R8G8B8A8_UNORM
info: Present mode: VK_PRESENT_MODE_IMMEDIATE_KHR
info: Buffer size: 1024x600
info: Image count: 2
info: Exclusive FS: 2
info: [RTX-Compatibility-Info] Trying to raytrace but not detecting a valid camera.
info: [RTX-Compatibility-Info] Trying to raytrace an unsupported primitive topology [2]. Ignoring.
info: Camera cut detected on frame 2401
err: D3D9SwapChainEx: Failed to recreate swap chain
err: [36] common device objects were not disposed of.

viral cypress
# storm oar

Ah you need to find the player model texture and mark it as ignored

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The box is your head lol

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This was in notes, I should've mentione it in the installation section

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So you can definetely run remix

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No idea why it doesn't in chess titans tho, where exactly you get it? From reddit?

storm oar
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yes reddit, i also tried to install remix into "vanilla" chess and with patched exe the game closes without errors during loading

viral cypress
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That one was uploaded by @rocky minnow, we later switched to x32 build of the game to avoid some issues. Not sure if it would fix your problem tho

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Follow these steps #1110245358040260668 message

storm oar
viral cypress
viral cypress
storm oar
viral cypress
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Unless you you have an x86 system the win7games.com installer installs the x64 version

storm oar
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yes maybe is the 64bit version, i can not open the exe with x32dgb, only with x64dgb

viral cypress
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#1110245358040260668 message
Get the 32 bit version from here, you shouldn't blindly trust people online so do a virustotal scan

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Then follow the installation steps exactly, I am here for some time if steps wasn't clear to you

rocky minnow
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Can someone umm... Test my room?

viral cypress
storm oar
viral cypress
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This one Release binaries.zip/Build/dxwrapper.dll

storm oar
viral cypress
viral cypress
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I'll use octotex for pbr then

rocky minnow
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Tony stark made stuff from scrap in a cave

viral cypress
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Sorry, I didn't meant offense

rocky minnow
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btw isn't obj joining all the models as one ?

viral cypress
rocky minnow
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hmm

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Do you know how to do it in blender

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The separation process

viral cypress
rocky minnow
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nvm

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how does it look when you load it with all the textures

viral cypress
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I'll try get this working for now, the pbr is secondary

viral cypress
rocky minnow
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ok

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Thank you

storm oar
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I tried to run chess 32bit with remix but it crashes during loading without errors

viral cypress
storm oar
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yes

viral cypress
storm oar
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no, it looks like there are no errors in the chess_d3d9.log file

viral cypress
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What about other ones

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especially bridge

storm oar
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the bridge log says that the server is launched and received ack completing the handshake, no errors

viral cypress
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I have no idea about your problem then, could ask to NV people when they're available

storm oar
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can i upload here my chess remix folder?

viral cypress
storm oar
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the whole folder with chess + remix

viral cypress
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okay, but delete it after I got

storm oar
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ok

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i will send it splitted into parts or is too big, i have used 7zip

viral cypress
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Okay I have it

storm oar
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there is a start.bat inside with the powershell command to start using fullscreen.ps1

viral cypress
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Where did you get the dxwrapper exactly?

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its faulty

storm oar
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from the github (elishacloud)

viral cypress
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yes but there are two dxwrapper.dll file in the archive

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wait yours is not even that

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Tell me exactly where do you get, from the zip you download

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The difference in file sizes is huge

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Uh okay you get it from the releases

storm oar
viral cypress
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which is what you need

storm oar
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you mean the dxwrapper that is 700kb instead of 1900?

viral cypress
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This is my fault tho, should've mentioned this

sly root
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download the zip file listed in the link @viral cypress provided

viral cypress
sly root
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however, you need a github account

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the license allows redistribution iirc @viral cypress

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might be able to just upload it here

viral cypress
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I have an dxwrapper downloader script in my repo, just trying to get it working when compiled

storm oar
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i downloaded it, its 3mb

viral cypress
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$PSScriptRoot points to c drive for some reason

viral cypress
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do a virustotal scan, don't blindly trust people online

viral cypress
rocky minnow
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yeah sometimes unprotected files are injected with torjan without your actions

storm oar
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now it works but a funny thing happens, it shrinks the window

viral cypress
viral cypress
# storm oar

You launch it with the script? And the d3d9.ini in the repo?

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Oh now I remember

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Don't maximize it

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the script should do that for you

storm oar
viral cypress
viral cypress
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window should never be maximized

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I think script was enforcing this already but I might be wrong

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Then rename it back & try again

storm oar
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it does not shrink anymore but is not full screen

viral cypress
storm oar
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1920x1080

viral cypress
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if not 1080 edit the line in the script

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Uh

viral cypress
viral cypress
storm oar
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i edited the resolution in the xml and now is fixed

viral cypress
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You sure the script is working?

storm oar
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i don't know, the game is in fullscreen

viral cypress
viral cypress
viral cypress
storm oar
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yes but if i put quality to maximum the board disappears

viral cypress
storm oar
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ok so is normal

viral cypress
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The script sets it to 3 every launch in case you change it

storm oar
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to have transparent pawns do i have to install a mod?

viral cypress
storm oar
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thx for the help

viral cypress
sly root
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okay

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thanks

viral cypress
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Btw is it possible to write linked text, (text)[url] doesn't work for some reason

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security measures maybe?

sly root
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it's the other way around

viral cypress
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uh

sly root
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[text](<https://nightly.link/elishacloud/dxwrapper/workflows/ci/master/Release%20binaries.zip>)

viral cypress
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my bad 😄

sly root
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lol, no worries

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i don't like doing that for basic posts like that, but i did do it for most others in #1055002308649427004

sick flint
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Magic

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🪄

viral cypress
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@sick flint do these work with remix?

def GeomSubset "room_22_124_003" (
    prepend apiSchemas = ["MaterialBindingAPI"]
)
{
    uniform token elementType = "face"
    uniform token familyName = "materialBind"
    int[] indices = [430, 431, 432, 433]
    rel material:binding = </_materials/room_22_124_003>
}
storm oar
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is there a way to reduce the noise in the transparent pawns?

viral cypress
viral cypress
storm oar
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the noise is only in transparent pawns

viral cypress
viral cypress
viral cypress
# sick flint What is that

@rocky minnow sent me a room model, the some property of children objects are defined like that I guess

sick flint
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Uh, you can put it in OV and see what happens. I won’t be near a computer for a week so

storm oar
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so if i have a non nvidia gpu can i add ray tracing to DX9 games too?

viral cypress
viral cypress
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Omniverse and the toolkit

storm oar
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what does the toolkit do?

viral cypress
rocky minnow
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he can use OctoTex

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that will only do textures

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PBR

storm oar
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and why is only for nvidia? it uses tensor core or cuda?

viral cypress
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Seriously, we are not to answer this, do have your own thoughts

viral cypress
storm oar
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do i need to have an rtx card? i have a cuda enabled gtx card that i don't use, if i put it in my pc could is use octotex?

viral cypress
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for omniverse and the toolkit you need an rtx card

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Otherwise you would enjoy a productive 0.1 fps in the viewport

sick flint
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It’s going to run pretty poorly on anything else

storm oar
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mhh...

viral cypress
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Arc is good at rt but doesn't work with remix, lack of drivers maybe?

viral cypress
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I wanna enjoy an hour of troubleshooting 🙂

viral cypress
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Is this reference mode

storm oar
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yes

viral cypress
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Also the shadows on the translucent pieces look odd

viral cypress
sick flint
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Non DLSS shadows look different if I remember right.

viral cypress
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Increase the sky brightness to something like 100

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also disable volumetric lightning and fog from Post Processing -> Composition -> Enable Fog

viral cypress
storm oar
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there is a skybox that is clipping with the original sky and when i increase the sky brightness to 100 there are some clipping pieces of the original sky that glows

viral cypress
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Btw there is a free camera in debug tab, you can hold down lmb and wasd

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You can use it to get a close up view

storm oar
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if i am too close i start getting colored artifacts

viral cypress
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This is an old screenshot

viral cypress
storm oar
sly root
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oh, @viral cypress let me know if you resolve the driver crashing please

viral cypress
# storm oar

@violet phoenix Do you know what might be causing this?

storm oar
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i got very close and now they are imprinted in the screen until i restart the game

sick flint
# storm oar

That’s blue is a broken texture from my memory. Might be encoding problem?

storm oar
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if i get closer to the board i get white, purple and green rectangles all over the screen

viral cypress
sly root
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i got similar corruption when enabling enhanced assets for the greenroom

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i think for me it was a solid green band though

sick flint
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I kinda slapped the green room together so it’s probably got some textures that needed encoded better

viral cypress
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I only had something similar when sky texture wasn't marked as sky

rocky minnow
viral cypress
storm oar
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kek so amd is the problem

viral cypress
# storm oar

Yea your issue definetely has nothing to do with encoding

viral cypress
storm oar
#

I also tried to click on capture scene but the whole thing freezes. is normal that is taking time or something is wrong?

viral cypress
#

and its contents

storm oar
#

yes

viral cypress
#

something is wrong then

viral cypress
storm oar
#

info: [GameCapturer] DXVK_RTX_CAPTURE_ENABLE_ON_FRAME:
warn: [GameCapturer] LSS USD Plugins failed to load.
err: NVIDIA NGX is not available on this hardware/platform: (code: 0xbad00001, info: NVSDK_NGX_Result_FAIL_FeatureNotSupported)
err: Unable to initialize Reflex: NvLLVk support library cannot be loaded.

this is inside chess_d3d9.log

viral cypress
#

Oh the whole capture thing doesn't work on non nv hardware

viral cypress
storm oar
#

where?

viral cypress
storm oar
#

reflex failed to initialize or is disabled

viral cypress
storm oar
#

no it says "reflex failed to initialize or is disabled"

#

there is no option just the text

viral cypress
#

It must be UTF-8, line endings doesn't matter

storm oar
#

still having the same text, reflex failed to initialize or is disabled

viral cypress
#

No idea then

#

@violet phoenix Could you have a look please

#

Does non nvidia hardware support captures?

viral cypress
violet phoenix
#

not sure.. it looks like some kind of memory corruption?

#

AFAIK capturing shouldn't care about the GPU involved, it's all done on the CPU

viral cypress
#

It's RDNA3 btw

violet phoenix
#

LSS USD Plugins does he have files in the .trex/usd/ folder?

viral cypress
#

@storm oar

violet phoenix
#

Sounds like a bug then, though if capture is broken on AMD generally, I'm surprised we haven't heard of that before

storm oar
violet phoenix
#

what happens if he gets rid of rtx.conf then tries to launch the game? It may be trying to use quality / graphics settings from whoever uploaded the mod pack

storm oar
#

without rtx.conf i don't get artifacts but the whole scene's graphics is degraded

viral cypress
viral cypress
viral cypress
# storm oar yes

It has some wild settings to fix custom skybox flashbang issue

violet phoenix
#

Right now we (rather stupidly) store both game setup and user quality settings in the same file. so it's possible something that's supposed to be disabled on AMD is being enabled by the conf file.

What happens when you try to capture without the rtx.conf file?

viral cypress
violet phoenix
#

ah. Can someone share the rtx.conf that's causing mure problems?

storm oar
violet phoenix
#

do you have the same errors in the log?

viral cypress
#

This video shows that RDNA3 gpus have some artifacts in Portal RTX

#

Buy Gamekeys at CDKeys ►https://cdkeys.pxf.io/xkJg3v
Please hit the thumbs up button and subscribe if you like what you see.
Recorded with my dedicated RECORDING/STREAMING PC via Capture Card.
This video was directly Captured from my ULTRAWIDE GAMING Monitor OR my OLED 4K HDR GAMING TV.
Resizable Bar / Smart Access Memory is always ON in my vid...

▶ Play video
violet phoenix
#
rtx.graphicsPreset = 4
rtx.qualityDLSS = 3
rtx.dlssPreset = 2``` those should probably be user settings, not game settings
violet phoenix
#

also, mure, are you on the latest AMD drivers?

sly root
#

@violet phoenix it's worth noting that this game does some weird stuff, enough that we can consistently crash the Nvidia driver by changing Reflex settings

violet phoenix
#

If you have a reliably reproducible crash, please make a github issue with full repro instructions

viral cypress
sly root
#

i'm pretty confident the issue lies in the game itself, not Remix. the overall behavior is just very strange. opening an issue wouldn't do any harm though

violet phoenix
#

even just knowing the steps and seeing the logs / dmp files could be enough to find a bug

#

The issue may lie in how the game interacts with D3D9, which may be capturing using an API trace

storm oar
viral cypress
violet phoenix
violet phoenix
sly root
#

here's a video of the crash: #1110245358040260668 message

storm oar
sly root
#

@viral cypress please don't delete your message after a ping, it just makes it really confusing. i don't know of any logs like what you asked for though

viral cypress
sly root
#

i do know of this, but i don't think it's quite relevant

#

and no worries. where was the folder?

viral cypress
#

ProgramData/NVIDIA

#

it contains the display container logs, not sure if they are actual driver logs tho

sly root
#

afaik that wouldn't contain the info you're looking for, but definitely worth looking at just in case

storm oar
versed coyote
violet phoenix
viral cypress
#

Weird, the game just doesn't even create a window with apitrace

#

apitrace.exe trace --api d3d9 chess.exe

#

warning: C:\Users\Kamil\Desktop\apitrace-latest-win32\bin\..\lib\wrappers\d3d9.dll was never used: application probably does not use this API
taskkilled

#

inject: error: failed to load C:\Users\Kamil\Desktop\apitrace-latest-win32\bin\injectee_iat.dll into the remote process 8012

#

uh

viral cypress
violet phoenix
#

err, I think d3d9 trace will only work if remix isn't there. Remix sends out vulkan commands instead

versed coyote
#

i thought nis was supported on amd gpus

viral cypress
#

and dxwrapper

#

(the game is dx9 dxwrapper used for other functions)

#

We use it for borderless fullscreen

violet phoenix
#

just upload the issue without it. I'm not familiar enough with API trace to help with it.

If whoever gets assigned the bug needs more info, they can always ask

viral cypress
violet phoenix
#

(presuming that capture in this game works for other people)

storm oar
viral cypress
storm oar
viral cypress
storm oar
viral cypress
#

To clarify, I didn't knew volumetrics was causing issues on AMD hardware, it was just disabled because this game had nothing to do with it

viral cypress
viral cypress
#

Couldn't upload apitrace files because they're too big, even tho I shut the game as soon as it creates a 3D scene

#

@sly root I couldn't reproduce the issue we had exactly as it was before

#

Toggling reflex used to always crash the driver, now it still does majority of the time but not always

#

Enabling the enhanced assets, when the old assets are drawn always causes a driver crash tho

sly root
#

it's just mostly consistent 😛

sly root
#

i tacked some extra info on just now

viral cypress
#

Hmm I suspected opacity micromap for a second looking at the logs

#

but no, it doesn't seem to be related

viral cypress
#

I compiled the launcher script tho it is flagged as malware by 3 vendors

sick flint
#

The powershell one?

viral cypress
sick flint
#

Would it be possible to write it as a batch file?

#

I think the antivirus gets scared from writing to the app data folder

viral cypress
#

Oh and btw this doesn't get affected by execution policy

#

so secure

viral cypress
sly root
#

looks like Chrome shit

viral cypress
#

I just uploaded a simple program that just exits with code 0 and its flagged by 6 lol

viral cypress
sly root
#

google chrome

viral cypress
#

So chrome auto update works at background but the sandbox software thinks my exe does this ?

sly root
#

their VMs shouldn't have Chrome on them at all

#

this is probably actually from your exe somehow

viral cypress
#

no more chrome stuff

sly root
#

did something malicious attach to your original exe?

viral cypress
#

So if I recompile the same script with same parameters it generates a different file each time?

#

Btw powershell don't have an actual way of compiling, the ps2exe has reimplemented almost all the cmdlets powershell has in .net

viral cypress
#

I think it was an inaccuracy with the sandbox software they've

#

but I should remove it from the releases anyway

#

and its flagged by just one 😄

sly root
#

that's very weird

#

i've never seen VT mess up like that

viral cypress
#

Uh not again

#

I recompiled the original script which generated a file with a different hash, hoping for a clean report

#

The first one had the hash: 292e865ee128013c1cbc0a4ac7f69b0c01b436fb400548ba392e9231b66ec080

#

Its Microsoft Sysinternals reporting those chrome files btw

#

Okay I think I could add this one as release, there is no way I pay for the signature to avoid those 3 red flags

sly root
#

yeah, lol

viral cypress
#

Oh crap that should've been 2, the array starts from 0 🤦‍♂️

#

Why everything interesting must happen while I am sleeping 👀

viral cypress
#

This is AWESOME

#

It grayscales everything else so it's easier to distinguish

#

This is incredible

#

can't stress enough how happy I am

#

#remix-updates message
What does this mean for us other than being able to redistribute the remix along with a mod?

hidden elk
#

Nothing. It's just that before, there was no official statement regarding distribution of remix.

#

Now there is

#

You can package the latest remix binaries with your mod.

viral cypress
#

I found this DisableMaxWindowedMode in the dxwrapper config but it doesn't seem to be doing what I thought it would :/

reef comet
viral cypress
#

@violet phoenix Why this might be happening? The camera is inside a translucent chess piece

#

If I enable volumetrics, I can at least somewhat see the rest

violet phoenix
#

When you're inside a translucent mesh that is not marked as thin walled, the rays treat the rest of the world as glass, and the inside of that surface as normal air

viral cypress
#

and the rest is pitch black without volumetrics

violet phoenix
#

We need a better way to indicate that the camera is inside a translucent medium. that's normally something we would depend on the game engine for, or on carefully conditioning meshes so normals always point outwards... neither of which Remix can actually depend on

violet phoenix
rocky minnow
#

🧠

viral cypress
#

I wish remix had ability to anchor the debug camera to something

#

like meshes

sick flint
#

You can turn off relative debug camera shrug

#

No idea on how to get it into a nice position but

viral cypress
#

Play the game from rook's perspective

sick flint
viral cypress
viral cypress
sly root
#

this commit fixed the corruption in Flatout. it may be fixed in this game too

viral cypress
rocky minnow
#

what kind of corruption are we talking here?

#

did it fix the motion vectors

viral cypress
# rocky minnow what kind of corruption are we talking here?

Upon toggling things like reflex, dlss and sometimes enhanced assets, imgui was getting corrupted and crashing the display driver in chess titans. I initially thought this is an issue with the game itself but it turned out to be not the case

viral cypress
viral cypress
#

[insert game here] wItH rEsHaDe LoOkS gOoD aS hEcK

#

nOw EvEn BeTtEr

rocky minnow
#

LSD chess

sick flint
cursive bridge
#

Chessman: Into the chess-verse

viral cypress
cursive bridge
#

Yea looks like a cool vision kinda of effect

viral cypress
#

The first time ever I find vignette useful

viral cypress
#

To be honest I don't see much difference with RTXDI and ReSTIR GI (considering we won't have many bounces) and I think we could disable both for this game in exchange of better performance.

#

RTXDI has an issue (or is it) at where the shadows start from

viral cypress
#

I can get somewhat more realistic shadows from translucents by increasing the sky brightness and decreasing the exposure, but then the shadows on opaque stuff looks odd.

viral cypress
#

Anyone remembers if we had an issue where the game refuses to launch with the patch applied?

mystic lance
viral cypress
#

Oh Adam you're online seconds ago

sick flint
#

What’s up?

#

I’m chronically online.

viral cypress
#

I remember you having a similar issue and you were using x32dbg to patch it in the memory instead

sick flint
#

Ohhhhhh yea

sick flint
#

Just kept applying it by hand

viral cypress
#

So weird

#

What Hemry has with you in common while not with me and tadpole

sick flint
#

Prob some windows thing ngl.

mystic lance
viral cypress
#

Didn't you use x32dbg

mystic lance
viral cypress
#

Yea just try without saving it

mystic lance
#

Something like cheat engine edit the memory?

viral cypress
#

don't save it

mystic lance
#

OK, let me try

viral cypress
#

If it works, I could move all this patching and launcher thingy to a custom DLL that will do the job of both

sick flint
#

I don’t have a dev setup so compiling junk is kinda a chore for me :/

viral cypress
#

Spoiler alert: It didn't worked

mystic lance
#

I pressed "F9" to Run the game, still not launch🥲

viral cypress
#

I hate this game

#

I hate windows
I hate batch
I hate windows powershell

mystic lance
#

I hate myself

sick flint
#

Uh I can mess with it later tonight if I have the energy 🫡

cursive bridge
#

goes into your rtx-remix folder. all CC0 textures here 🙂

viral cypress
#

Added a giant cube to the game itself

#

with the help of tadpole

cursive bridge
#

not me, a literal baby frog he's been consulting about rtx remix

viral cypress
#

lol

sick flint
#

Patch still seems to work fine

mystic lance
#

😩

viral cypress
#

Oh my, the first time ever my code worked first try

#

ChatGPT's my code

rocky minnow
#

What code

viral cypress
#

It will also replace the functionality of the launcher script

#

because it sucks rn

viral cypress
#

It would be a better idea to prevent this slider from moving at all

#

but I am no Adam

viral cypress
mystic lance
viral cypress
mystic lance
viral cypress
# mystic lance Which tools can I use to detect changes in game settings and write DLL files? I'...

I use cheat engine to determine the offset of that variable relative to the base address of the game exe.
I used Rust for writing the DLL, but almost all tutorials you'll find online are for c/cpp for good reason. For doing anything windows specific in Rust, you need to use 3rd party Rust libraries (called crates) like windows crate (this one is by Microsoft) and you'll be writing extra boilerplate compared to just calling that winapi function in c/cpp.

In this case, the dll applies patches when loaded which is blocking the game thread until done, then spawns a separate thread to watch for the settings.
This is not a preferrable approach as it makes much more sense to block the user from doing that change in the first place. The reason I didn't, is simply becasuse I have no idea how to :)

mystic lance
sly root
#

cheat engine is also very good for debugging or messing around in real time

mystic lance
#

Thanks Kim.❤️

viral cypress
#

Don't forget to get the stripped down version of Cheat Engine as the other one is bundled with adware

#

if you will

sly root
#

they lock the portable one without adware behind patreon, which is what i've been using. it's a pretty old version now

#

can you link the proper one to get so i can recommend it in the future?

viral cypress
#

@sly root

sly root
#

thanks

sick flint
#

I forget if ghidra gets pdbs from microsoft but all the symbols for this game are online so it disassembles nicely

viral cypress
#

@sick flint Do you happen to have rust toolchain installed?

#

Could you try the dll

mystic lance
#

The secret country cannot be detected; the installation has failed.🤔

viral cypress
# sick flint Nope

You can get the gnu linker, it's very easy to install & uninstall afterwards

#

The file will be VERY large but should have the same func

sick flint
#

Lemme cook for a bit. I wanna see if I can figure out how to make them fancy asi mods

viral cypress
sly root
viral cypress
#

but with your eyes closed

sick flint
#

My fav part is having all the camera variables already found and what type they are

viral cypress
#

Is this barnyard or chess titans

sick flint
#

Chess

sly root
sly root
balmy dagger
#

Wut u guys cooking/patching?

sick flint
#

Nothing peepoRun

viral cypress
#

@sick flint I made the asi mod for Chess Titans and the patching part is working as intended, can you please try it when available? I want to see if it will resolve the issue you had. I can't ask anyone to inject a dll they got from a random guy on the internet so I will link you the repo, you should compile it yourself (if you wish to try). It shouldn't take more than a minute to inspect its code.

balmy dagger
# sick flint Uh

I'm not aware of this project's status lol, have never touched it

viral cypress
viral cypress
#

The build.bat expects you to have the msvc linker, so if you don't have MS c/cpp build tools installed, switch to x86 gnu linker

#

run rustup target add i686-pc-windows-gnu
and
replace the build command in the build.bat with cargo build --release --target i686-pc-windows-gnu

sick flint
#

Uh

viral cypress
#

what happened

sick flint
#

I have no idea how to run this 😦

viral cypress
#

It will install rust compiler and cargo which is the build and project management system

#

It should ask you which linker you wanna use, select gnu

sick flint
#

Okay built the program, where is the resulting build?

viral cypress
#

chess_titans_rtx.asi

#

You need Ultimate ASI Loader btw

#

actually dxwrapper has built in functionality for that 🤔

sick flint
#

||Can you just send the asi file? I can't get it to change the linker it seems :(||

viral cypress
sick flint
#

Works fine for me

viral cypress
#

You didn't needed to use x32dbg?

sick flint
#

Nope

viral cypress
#

Nice, thank you for testing. Now I should get launcher logic in

#

Btw try to change the graphics level

sick flint
#

But I already closed it NotLikeThis

viral cypress
#

Btw when you did make this table and chair

sick flint
#

Last night I just grabbed it from polyhaven to test out the toolkit

viral cypress
#

Looks sick

#

how do you see the old version of an edited message

sick flint
#

vencord

viral cypress
#

I thought I was good editing my messages 2 times per second

#

Yea I should probably go in a typing bootcamp

rocky minnow
hidden elk
#

Vencord user spotted

viral cypress
sick flint
viral cypress
#

What folders are there in \target\

#

I should probably create a build task in Github

#

I think free accounts have some limited cloud use

sly root
#

o nooo end of da world

#

VT loves to give false positives on asi files 😦

viral cypress
#

I created a build task for the main branch, now you don't need to compile it yourself nor have to trust a random guy on the internet that being me

cursive bridge
#

I've set up chess with toolkit now, nice and easy 🙂

sick flint
cursive bridge
#

damn right, have you managed to get a sky working?

#

I found a small, tiny, little poly plane where the camera should be and added a sky dome mesh but when i mark sky my mesh disapears

viral cypress
#

@cursive bridge Btw I wanted to ask, do this sky mesh you gave me has UVs?

cursive bridge
#

yea thats all good

#

download something from polyhaven and ingest away 🙂

#

no way to ingest as hdr though @brisk ruin @violet phoenix

#

@viral cypress

viral cypress
cursive bridge
#

ingested and attached to the board frame

#

doesnt work as a sky though

#

when i mark the board texture as sky it comes back for some reason

#

and my replacement goes away, unmark it and the sky comes back

viral cypress
#

Hmm why it looks so weird

cursive bridge
#

i have no idea what that represents, it's a 3ds max default sphere with 64 sub div's that i inverted the normals of and reset xforms before exporting to fbx

viral cypress
#

Uh tool crashing every time :/

viral cypress
#

Like as if it was a 3D skybox

#

Intentionally

cursive bridge
#

this is it rasterized

viral cypress
#

Hey I can't get the toolkit running, can you do the sky if I pass you the captures

cursive bridge
#

sure

#

is your board normals backwards in toolkit?

#

i took a screenshot of toolkit 😛 felt so naughty

#

i have no outter board

#

or sky, just the inner board and pieces

#

@viral cypress might need to capture with the modded board of yours with no tags?

cursive bridge
#

oh yea it's got no smoothing or uv's now

#

@viral cypress

sly root
#

reminds me of a disco ball

cursive bridge
#

oh yea

#

we partying in chess titans

viral cypress
viral cypress
# cursive bridge

It looks like a pixelization shader rather than naturally occuring

cursive bridge
#

metalic 1, roughness 0.1, diffuse 1 makes a disco ball

viral cypress
#

Is lack of normals really an issue for sky? I mean it looks fine when the sky is a "box"

cursive bridge
#

no thats fine, uvs though is an issue

viral cypress
cursive bridge
#

yea, normals and uv's are both gone 😦

brisk ruin
#

Just wondering, did someone tag me in this thread? I'm part of the thread but can't find any mentions lol

viral cypress
#

Actually, @cursive bridge can you check Blender addons for DirectX X Format, or DirectX Import

cursive bridge
brisk ruin
#

Oh right! Yeah you can create a GitHub feature request for that! Definitely something useful!

cursive bridge
brisk ruin
#

Thank you!

cursive bridge
viral cypress
#

I wonder how people used this .X format, it seems like MS pushed it for its studios. Some modding wiki pages might have a tool mentioned, maybe something like Flight Simulator's

cursive bridge
#

think max has flight sim options

#

.flt format

viral cypress
#

Even they realized how bad it is D:

#

MS page says its deprecated as of 2014, which I am sure is a lot later than no one on the earth left using it.

#

We really need the ability to make custom skyboxes :/

brisk ruin
#

Yeah the one Kim sent!

viral cypress
#

Offtopic question, does the tag "jira" refer to that software or is it an abbreviation

sly root
#

jira is issue tracking software

#

i'd guess it just means that it was added to it 😛

#

ya (label description on github)

#

just realized you were asking Pete, sorry

viral cypress
#

No I just asked here, doesnt matter who responds

cursive bridge
#

very generous of you kim, thank you

viral cypress
#

(shipping: inf business days)

cursive bridge
#

oh hey look it's a "pal" from that new game 😛

viral cypress
#

Seriously how did they get away with it.

cursive bridge
#

they aint yet, nintendo lawyers are like hungry dogs

viral cypress
#

I am sure they are working day & night

balmy dagger
viral cypress
#

I realized .1337 files are just text, could we use an asi mod that would patch its parent process with all the .1337 files it founds in say ./patches? Not for Chess Titans (as I have a dedicated one for that) but for all games in general.
Actually there might be such thing already 🤔

viral cypress
#

Why fix a bug when you can prevent the user from getting there in the first place :)

rocky minnow
#

But

#

What about 4k path traced chess

viral cypress
#

We never used that for fullscreen

#

It causes a strange bug where the window keeps getting smaller and smaller

rocky minnow
#

oh well

#

It was never Fullscreen in the first place

viral cypress
sick flint
viral cypress
#

Maybe I could find the offsets where it stores those values before creating the window, and forcefully set them

viral cypress
#

Alright, now you don't need the crappy powershell script for anything

#

I can set the window width/height in the asi, with the dumbest way possible 😛

#
fn res_watcher() {
    const WIDTH_OFFSET: u32 = 0x131154;
    const HEIGHT_OFFSET: u32 = 0x131158;

    let width = get_address_by_offset(WIDTH_OFFSET);
    let height = get_address_by_offset(HEIGHT_OFFSET);
    loop {
        if unsafe { *width } != 1920 {
           write_to(width , 1920);
        }

        if unsafe { *height } != 1080 {
            write_to(height, 1080);
        }
        thread::sleep(Duration::from_millis(1));
    }
}
#

Oh actually, I think VirtualProtect can be used to make it read only

#

That might crash the game tho :/

#

yep, instant crash :(

viral cypress
hidden elk
#

help

viral cypress
#

I spent around 3 hours finding every single instruction writing to that offset, noped them all. Got some scary warnings from x32dbg about the modifications I made being in a realignment region or whatever.
I think that means it may not work on other computers?

viral cypress
#

Actually seems like I still can't go under 100x100

rocky minnow
cursive bridge
hidden elk
#

I think the game is asking for help

viral cypress
viral cypress
#

I should now implement the config system and update the chess titans rtx repo but man this is the most boring part of the job

rocky minnow
#

what job kekw

viral cypress
#

Implementing a config system

#

It's repetitive, it's not any exciting, it's hard to get right, it's not making my brain release any dopamine

#

I am now experimenting with a simple command line thing where you can set some parameters live, "parameters" being only the fov :)

#

I would like to implement some sort of ui, but this is already getting too bloated

#

Also I don't think anyone cares about Chess Titans at this point :/

rocky minnow
#

that's the point, work on something that no one cares

hidden elk
#

I don't think anyone really cared much to begin with

#

For me, it's a meme project

sick flint
#

It’s the titan of the chess world

viral cypress
sly root
#

do it for you

rocky minnow
#

it's okay i mean i didn't have any intention of bringing the mood down. Just work on whatever you like

#

the community here is genuinely very supportive

cursive bridge
#

A lot of potential for a good solid playable demo of remix. Nice simple project

rocky minnow
sly root