Barnyard

[rugged forum]

or ToshiLevelEditor

[ashen merlin]

good thing too, because the way the geometry hashes are behaving in remix means the exports are like this:

that'd be amazing, thank you

[rugged forum]

though idk how to put it back in remix

[ashen merlin]

i guess we'll figure it out as we go

[rugged forum]

do we know the the chunk names of the bridge area

[ashen merlin]

the hash?

the obj file in that upload is xroad_l0mod0 through 3 under Meshes

[rugged forum]

was the bridge the only thing here

[ashen merlin]

the only duplicate?

weird, it's not showing on yours

the hills are duplicated too

but you should stop

the way the captures are right now means that we can't replace objects properly. each object is split in very broken ways

[ashen merlin]

like this

which is disappointing

however, we can replace the textures for now

[rugged forum]

i deleted everything under the bridge

[ashen merlin]

ah

[rugged forum]

it might be possible to replace it with the level editor

[ashen merlin]

good point

[rugged forum]

if i can figure out how to use it

[rugged forum]

now when i disable volumetric lighting the game crashes

[ashen merlin]

very strange

[rugged forum]

have you got it disabled in your conf file

[ashen merlin]

i think so

[rugged forum]

it only crashes when i exit the remix menu

[ashen merlin]

can you send your logs?

[ashen merlin]

the barnyard_d3d9.log is gonna be the most helpful

[ashen merlin]

put this conf file in your .trex folder

[rugged forum]

still crashing

[ashen merlin]

send the log again please?

[rugged forum]

well turning it off in the menu seems to have fixed it

[ashen merlin]

warn:    Size:      2048
warn:    Category:  1
warn:    Alignment: 256
warn:    Mem property flags: 0xb
warn:    Mem allocate flags: 0x2
warn:    Mem types: 0x1f
warn:  Requested memory allocation but failed to find space in preferred heaps, this alloc will be demoted to slower memory segments
warn:    Size:      512
warn:    Category:  1
warn:    Alignment: 256
warn:    Mem property flags: 0xb
warn:    Mem allocate flags: 0x2
warn:    Mem types: 0x1f

this isn't normal though

and i didn't run into that

no idea why that's happening for you suddenly

[ashen merlin]

really have no idea

something else is probably wrong

[rugged forum]

also just realised that the missing objects seemed to have appeared after sleeping from night to day

[ashen merlin]

huh

that explains why it showed up in that earlier screenshot then

[rugged forum]

then it seems to stick

also you should update the trello

[ashen merlin]

@rugged forum turns out that warning in your logs is happening on every game for me

seems to be an issue with the newer CI builds

[rugged forum]

Just going to upload a quick drag and drop install for this for another server

[ashen merlin]

the game looks beautiful now

[rugged forum]

"I've set some settings for the volumetric light"

[vague drum]

Any specific version of the game needed for this? I wanna see how my 7900xt would fare

[rugged forum]

don't think so

[rugged forum]

What settings have you changed?

[rugged forum]

i am getting this issue again but i seems to be unrelated with the lighting and just opening and closing menus

ok more i've narrowed it down to scrolling with a trackpad then exiting the remix menu

yeah oddly specific issue

[rugged forum]

Also i've just noticed some shadows disappear when looking at an angle

[ashen merlin]

the shadow under your character?

i set that as ignored so it shouldn't even be there

[rugged forum]

yeah and the chicks

[ashen merlin]

yeah, that's supposed to be off

this is part of the problem with geometry hashes i think

[rugged forum]

so this was what caused the crashing earlier

[ashen merlin]

glad you got it figured out

very strange

[edgy shard]

I think I've managed to merge some terrain models into a single file so there's a chance we'll be able to get rid of the low quality LODs at least in some way

[ashen merlin]

wow, nice

[edgy shard]

current progress

[rugged forum]

i assume the purple is a texture issue because it is calling the lod

[clear silo]

the purple is just the default colour for when textures havent loaded in / have missing textures

[trim pond]

Right now, Remix can only modify mesh / material assets, we can't reliably differentiate between instances across runs, so we don't have a way to manipulate individual instances.

As a possible alternative - you could just add geometry to represent the bottom of the pond? would that block most of the mirrored geometry?

[ashen merlin]

that's a good idea, it should resolve the issue. and adding new geometry like that is possible with Remix?

[trim pond]

yep - as long as there's something unique to that area that has a stable mesh hash, you can add other meshes as children of the mesh_HASH prim. Though that may need to wait for us to release the tool, I don't think anyone has actually figured out how to properly format meshes without it

[ashen merlin]

mm annoyingly the game is just broken for me suddenly

[tame flume]

Can you think of anything that changed or did it just happen out of nowhere?

I suspect that a Windows update or some other factor I had no control over is the reason Hitman Codename 47 never ran again after my first attempt.

[ashen merlin]

nothing at all changed

no updates either

logs are useless

i'm very annoyed. my PC hadn't even restarted when it stopped working

fresh install of the game doesn't work either

[tame flume]

I think it was watbulb that suggested it could possibly be related to your cache in AppData, but I don't think it made any difference for me either.

[ashen merlin]

apparently the newest build of remix is just broken for me suddenly

it had some issues for sure

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/174

this started with the latest build

i reverted to one from the day before and now it's working fine

basically if i alt-tabbed at all out of the game window, the visuals would freeze and nothing would happen

i'm glad it was fixed this easily, but i'm worried this issue will persist in new builds

also do you have any idea how i can stop barnyard from opening off-screen?

it's so annoying

[rugged forum]

do you use it in windowed?

[ashen merlin]

yes

[rugged forum]

well i had it happen to me once fixed it with swre and hasn't happened again without swre open

[ashen merlin]

interesting

it happens to me every time

but only when i'm using the modified exe with a higher resolution

[ashen merlin]

well

i got something to do something

i can't seem to place disk lights though (which would be great)

@chrome mulch i saw your work on the NFS games (great job btw). i was hoping you could give me some advice on placing lights like that please?

i have a light placed, but i bet i'm doing something wrong, as it's not showing up in-game

i got the emissive map working! @tame flume

i have no idea why it wasn't working before

the only problem is that it ghosts like crazy and is pretty much useless

[rugged forum]

how did you get it to work?

[tame flume]

Yikes, you said this was the latest commit's fault @ashen merlin ?

[ashen merlin]

yeah

there's definitely something wrong with the latest commit

which game is that?

[ashen merlin]

i have no idea. i just did the same thing and it worked this time

[chrome mulch]

When add a light you have to add a reference to the mesh. The reference should be the same mesh which you added the light to

[ashen merlin]

ohhh that makes a lot of sense

[tame flume]

It's Brigand, a ridiculous jank game. But this seems to be the result of disabling the shared heap.

[ashen merlin]

if you can, can you please comment on that issue with what you experienced?

[tame flume]

Eek, never mind. I think this deserves an issue report on its own.

Essentially, trying to load into the game just causes the game to suddenly allocate 14 GB of VRAM. Twice it's exploded, once in between it never went above 40% usage.

[ashen merlin]

interesting

i didn't have it go above my max, but it came VERY close a few times. more than usual

[tame flume]

It's not saving my rtx.conf either...

[ashen merlin]

and the warnings in the log aren't good either

i'll reference your issue after you open it i guess

[tame flume]

Yeah this game is NOT requesting 14 GB, I can tell you that for free.

[ashen merlin]

this is the problem with the emissive light source btw

[chrome mulch]

Do following steps:

1. Select a mesh
2. Right click and select Search content in browser
3. Right click on the found file and select rename
4. Now select the the number in the name and copy it
5. Now switch from layer to stage
6. Search the number
7. Right click on following mesh type: 1234567890 (not 1234567890_0)
8. Go on create > Light > The light you want
9. Go back to layer
10. Select the mesh where the light was added to
11. Now select add > reference
12. Search the exact same mesh and select it
13. Now configure position and everything else

[ashen merlin]

thank you very much for writing that up

[rugged forum]

why does your 3070 ti have "3gb" of vram

[ashen merlin]

when omniverse is open, it limits Remix to whatever free VRAM is left

[rugged forum]

ok

[rugged forum]

i tried to do this with lights in the nightbarn and couldn't get it to work

[ashen merlin]

i ended up with this weirdness. the light is now floating and seemingly attached to the camera/viewpoint

i think it's right?

[tame flume]

Yeah so ignore what I was up to. I just happened to stumble on a full-on memory leak.

[rugged forum]

seems to not work

[ashen merlin]

did you reference the mesh? it doesn't look like it

[rugged forum]

yeah

[ashen merlin]

hm

[chrome mulch]

You have to zoom out and now select the light, then you can move it. Its a bit complicated but i do it that way

When you moved the right one a bit on the layer menu should be added an instance with the same number as the mesh

[ashen merlin]

oh i'm so stupid. i swear i had moved the light, but i guess i undid it by mistake

[chrome mulch]

When you have moved the light you have to copy the translate data from the light in instance to the light in the proper mesh

Then the light will glow in the exact same position you moved it to

[rugged forum]

is there an easy way to position the light in the centre of the mesh

[chrome mulch]

Well did not find another method

[ashen merlin]

no matter what i do, it just ends up like this. i thought maybe i referenced the wrong mesh, but i didn't

[ashen merlin]

#1108266959763685458 message

just found @lilac patrol's tutorial for it, will follow that next

[chrome mulch]

Its the same, literally

[ashen merlin]

yeah, i'm going over it just to be sure i did it right

yeah still doesn't work. i guess this is a game issue

[lilac patrol]

Im happy that some of tutorials are useful 😅

[ashen merlin]

they are 🙂

thanks

[chrome mulch]

Did you got it done Kim?

[ashen merlin]

sadly no. i followed the tutorials and did a lot of my own experimenting, and didn't get anywhere

i'm convinced it's a game issue. i tried it in Skyrim as well and had a totally different issue with the same steps (the mesh turned invisible and no light was being generated)

[chrome mulch]

Thats bad :/

[ashen merlin]

yeah 😦

i'm very sad. i was looking forward to this part

i appreciate you taking the time to write out the steps and info though, thank you

[chrome mulch]

No problem

[rugged forum]

Could you send me your mod.usda? i want to work off of this.

[ashen merlin]

i think this was it

[rugged forum]

thanks

[ashen merlin]

#general-remix message
with Mark's (amazing) response, we may be able to mitigate Barnyard's unstable geometry hashes. i'll mess around with the 3rd option later today, i hope it works out

[ashen merlin]

bleh

unfortunately i don't think that'll work based on his description of it

[ashen merlin]

didn't work (if i used it properly)

and the 2nd method doesn't seem relevant to this game

and no matter what i did, i couldn't force GPU skinning

[ashen merlin]

texture replacement is not going my way

why is it invisible

shows up fine in omniverse

yay

i was stupid. had it in the wrong folder

i have to upscale on my CPU though, lol. i run out of VRAM otherwise

[ashen merlin]

i did a quick upscale + normal map test. i just used a single model, but it works!

this was the script i used to generate the usda file after upscaling the files

it's not generating normals correctly however

now it is

looks a lot better now

[ashen merlin]

@tame flume so texture replacement is issue-free despite unstable geometry hashes. i expected some issues, so this is nice

[tame flume]

Oh yeah textures are fine. Geometry is where you'll have problems, usually.

I've found that transparent particles also have issues if they're not tagged with opacity.

[rugged forum]

I find pbr oven easier to use

[tame flume]

I think Kim might have run into some bugs with PBROven the other day, I wish the developer knew what he was doing.

Jokes aside I'll probably try to include some better documentation when I fix the subdirectory issue Kim was having.

[rugged forum]

Well the powershell script never worked for me

[tame flume]

I think the issue isn't hard coding but that if no upscaled textures exists it blocks the system from saving your new directory settings. This was fine UI design for writing one off scripts, but makes absolutely no sense for saved profiles.

Input validation is also still a mess and unfortunately I won't give that one another look until after ChaiNNer integration.

[rugged forum]

@ashen merlin what upscaling model did you use?

[ashen merlin]

RealisticRescaler

[ashen merlin]

that + the BC3 issue, so that script was just quicker for me

[ashen merlin]

btw you can fix this by disabling "direct lighting" in the Render Settings tab

[tame flume]

Thanks, I'll take a look next time I'm in Omniverse.

[ashen merlin]

so hashes are 100% stable in barnyard now with this tweak in rtx.conf:
rtx.geometryGenerationHashRuleString = positions, indices, geometrydescriptor

it sucks that some models are still split up (like the character model). this makes it a pain to replace them

[rugged forum]

i don't get what i am looking at

[ashen merlin]

this is the debug view showing geometry hashes

solid colors = good
flashing colors = bad

if it's flashing, it means geometry hashes are unstable, causing ghosting and other issues

also an example of the character model being split

[edgy shard]

this is how it is split in the game files

[ashen merlin]

that's really interesting. from what i've heard, supposedly the way the game stores it isn't supposed to transfer into the captures? but i could have misinterpreted

[rugged forum]

i don't think i had this happen in my captures

[edgy shard]

screenshot from 2021 when AdventureT just started reversing the TMDL model format for barnyard

[ashen merlin]

i'm trying to fix the river by adding a normal map + changing the transparency level

apparently it decided to turn into a glowing toxic river instead

[ashen merlin]

i wonder why they're stored like this? what could it achieve

[rugged forum]

is it something only with the female cow?

[rugged forum]

And I assume the light has been fixed?

[tame flume]

Wow, a stable dynamic mesh???

[ashen merlin]

is it dynamic? do you mean the main character?

[tame flume]

Yeah, I've never once seen a stable skeletal mesh in Remix. That's a pretty big deal for replacements.

[ashen merlin]

wow

even better then 🙂

i'm really excited

i would refer to Mark's explanation of how it works if you want to try it yourself: #1097563444137427056 message

okay

so for Barnyard, removing only vertexshader from rtx.geometryAssetHashRuleString was necessary to make hashes stable

[tame flume]

Cool, I'll try this with a few games I've been testing and see what happens. Who knows, maybe I won't have to re-brush Anachronox... 😶

[ashen merlin]

ping me when you try it 🙂

[rugged forum]

seems to work but now there is another sun

[ashen merlin]

ah right

you're missing the emissive map

[rugged forum]

could you send it?

[ashen merlin]

looking for it

@rugged forum

had to make it again

put this in your mods\gameReadyAssets folder, next to mod.usda

[rugged forum]

thanks

doesn't seem to be working i'm reading the mod .usda and even adding _emissive isn't working

[ashen merlin]

mm my file path is bad on there

try this one

[rugged forum]

doesn't seem to work

what does it look like in the gameReadyAssets folder?

[ashen merlin]

should be like this

i'll test it now. i had to back up my upscales first

yeah, isn't working

i'll fix it

@rugged forum

[rugged forum]

thanks works good now but is there a way to only get it to work at night?

[ashen merlin]

afaik no 😦

something broke for me in the last 6 hours again too. barnyard is crashing + the weird motion blur issues on foliage returned despite the fix working before

seems like the bridge is crashing

[rugged forum]

game seems to be working fine for me though i haven't updated anything in a week

[ashen merlin]

yeah, i'm not sure why it's even breaking for me. it works then suddenly it doesn't

logs aren't helpful at all other than knowing the bridge is crashing

[rugged forum]

did you update the bridge recently?

[ashen merlin]

if i alt tab for more than 2-3 seconds, it breaks. and i need to to reposition the window

[ashen merlin]

no, it hasn't had an update for a week now

[rugged forum]

what about the runtime?

[ashen merlin]

yes, but this crashing happened before for a while too, then suddenly fixed itself

i have no idea what's causing it

even using old builds doesn't fix it

[rugged forum]

have you been opening the remix menu?

because that has caused crashes for me

[ashen merlin]

no actually. it just crashes if i alt tab

[rugged forum]

weird, would it be possible to make the dance floor emissive the same way the light is?

[ashen merlin]

it should be, yes

can you share your save file please?

i don't have time to play through the game to get there

[ashen merlin]

thanks

i'll set up the lamps too

[rugged forum]

also when playing pool the arrow has a ghost that stays there until you move it again but i'm not sure if that can be fixed

[ashen merlin]

@rugged forum can you try this for the lamps indoors please?

the game crashes so much now that i can't

[rugged forum]

ok

works amazing

[ashen merlin]

nice

and converting the dance floor is going to be harder than i thought

[rugged forum]

though there is that glow that could be fixed

[ashen merlin]

on the lamps?

[rugged forum]

yeah

[ashen merlin]

the intensity is a bit high

you can lower it to 15 in the usda file

oh, i also possibly marked the entire inside of the lamp as the emissive part

[rugged forum]

that is what i was thinking because it seems to happen at any value

have you done any changes to the games room lights?

[ashen merlin]

not yet

i think there's one of these lamps down there though

working on the dance floor right now

there's like 30 textures it seems to switch between 😦

[rugged forum]

i see the lightbulb in the lamp going emmisive but it doesn't seem to fix the darkness down there

[ashen merlin]

if the lamp is off-screen, it won't work at all

it's an unfortunate issue right now

[rugged forum]

actually nvm it does

[rugged forum]

but isn't that the issue rt solves?

[ashen merlin]

yeah, but the way emissive textures work kind of work around it unintentionally

with normal light sources this wouldn't happen from my understanding

also, the game is still culling geometry. this will cause light sources to basically be hidden, and remix can't emit light anymore

[rugged forum]

does make a nice difference but it needs the other lights

[ashen merlin]

ya

[rugged forum]

unfortunate because pool just doesn't look right without the light above the table

[ashen merlin]

i'm trying to get a script to automatically generate emissive maps for the dance floor textures

[rugged forum]

isn't it just one texture?

[ashen merlin]

from what i see in the captures, it's like 30

oh, oops

it just duplicated, lmao

[rugged forum]

pool hits different in the dark

[ashen merlin]

wow, nice

the script just... worked

and in grayscale

nice

i'll set this up and give it to ya

@rugged forum

now i'll start on the pool area

[rugged forum]

i'll see how it turns out

and i need to re upscale my textures they all seem too pixelated for their resolution

[rugged forum]

maybe these files can fix your issue but i'm not too sure also the rtx conf in it will need to be updated

[ashen merlin]

mm that's not good

they share the same mesh

[ashen merlin]

sadly no. like i said, even old builds are broken. i think it's something with my Windows install 😦

[rugged forum]

dance floor isn't looking quite right

[ashen merlin]

yeah 😦

i dunno why

[ashen merlin]

this isn't good btw

the texture for the lightbulbs shares the same exact texture for the outside of the lamp

and since it's all one mesh, i can't separate it

[rugged forum]

setting intensity to 1 seems to be the best as it is more natural to the original look

[ashen merlin]

ya, makes sense

i usually use higher intensities for testing

but that's looking good

after we get this working right with the dance floor, we should post in #showcase

[rugged forum]

yeah,

i'm not sure how this area is going to work though the lighting is really odd here

[ashen merlin]

and unfortunately the pool table will have to wait until we get normal lights working i think

[ashen merlin]

once we have the ability to add meshes, we can add some additional lamps in the stairwell

[rugged forum]

turning the intensity down on the dance floor seems to go closer to the original colour

at intensity 1

[ashen merlin]

for the pool lamp

just to test

[rugged forum]

not sure if anything happened

[ashen merlin]

can you tilt the camera up to look in the lamp?

[ashen merlin]

😦

guess i'll just work on the other lamps down there

btw try this instead for the dance floor

[rugged forum]

seems to be the same

[ashen merlin]

dang

oops

ugh

that should enable the other lights to work

with the intensities set to 1 like you suggestted

[rugged forum]

actually the dance floor seems to be working better now

[ashen merlin]

oo, good

[ashen merlin]

i guess emissive maps don't like grayscale

that's strange though

[rugged forum]

pool table seems to be "working"

duke is a wizard now

[ashen merlin]

yeah, that's what i thought was gonna happen 😦

looks funny though

those larger lamps should be working now btw

these

[rugged forum]

they emit some light

[ashen merlin]

oh

you have to hide that fake light texture that's in front of it

[rugged forum]

still even after turning the intensity up

[ashen merlin]

mm

it's because the light surface inside is so small

i ran into this issue with the original outside lamps

gonna try something

mm nope, didn't work

[ashen merlin]

what intensity is that btw?

[rugged forum]

15

[ashen merlin]

as for this, i think the issue is the emissive color. i don't think i can pass through the original color to light it up, instead i have to specify one?

so it's causing it to look that way

this one may work better

i may be able to specify a color map

[ashen merlin]

ugh

i think i got it

@rugged forum

this should fix the dance floor

or if it doesn't, we have a way to now

emissive color maps!

[tame flume]

Yeah I hit this problem with Anachronox too, it made every single color white. I've been wondering if there's a sneaky way to convert the primary color of the emissive map into a Vector3 and pass it to the USDA... 🤔

[ashen merlin]

the color map may work for you as well

[rugged forum]

seems the same

[ashen merlin]

i just did this in my usda file:

                    colorSpace = "auto"
                    customData = {
                        asset default = @@
                    }
                    displayGroup = "Emissive"
                    displayName = "Emissive Mask Map"
                    doc = "The texture masking the emissive color"
                    hidden = false
                )
                asset inputs:emissive_color_texture = @./5A495C9D9F21C12F.dds@ (
                    colorSpace = "auto"
                    customData = {
                        asset default = @@
                    }
                    displayGroup = "Emissive"
                    displayName = "Emissive Color Map"
                    doc = "The texture marking the emissive color"
                    hidden = false
                )```

[ashen merlin]

i think i probably need to encode the image differently then

[tame flume]

I had no idea emissive_color_texture was even a thing.

[ashen merlin]

https://docs.omniverse.nvidia.com/app_create/prod_materials-and-rendering/materials.html#omnipbr-emissive-color-map

[tame flume]

Yep, that changes everything. 😂

[ashen merlin]

it doesn't show up in omniverse until you add that to the mod.usda

[tame flume]

Wow.

[rugged forum]

When i change the texture do i need to restart the game?

[ashen merlin]

no, just toggle the enhanced assets thing, then do a 360 spin with the camera

[tame flume]

I was about to say, is this the point where I'm just gaslit over a texture that existed all along? But no, it wasn't there, I'm not crazy. 😂

[ashen merlin]

lol

i'm not 100% sure it even works with Remix, but i don't see why it wouldn't

[tame flume]

It's worth a try

[ashen merlin]

oh, i'm stupid

i set the wrong directory for the color map

no wonder it didn't work

[rugged forum]

could you send the fixed version?

[ashen merlin]

it's still broken, tested myself

basically just copy 5A495C9D9F21C12F.dds into the gamereadyassets folder

[rugged forum]

you got your game to work?

[ashen merlin]

no 😦

i just dealt with the crahing long enough to test

[rugged forum]

could it be your game install?

[ashen merlin]

shouldn't be, but i'll try a fresh one i guess

yep, not that

gonna try a gpu driver update

[rugged forum]

Yeah realisticResaler seems to be doing a real good job compared to the other one i was using

[ashen merlin]

what were you using before?

[rugged forum]

Volart

[ashen merlin]

ah yeah, i made that model. it wouldn't work well at all for barnyard

[rugged forum]

Oh yeah it looks wayy better now

[ashen merlin]

i switch between that model, swinir-large, and ultrasharp/ultramix most of the time

[rugged forum]

i have to say the salt lick machine's text is way more readable

though there are some areas volart did better there was more detail in the bridge

[ashen merlin]

yeah, you need to be selective with which model to use

[rugged forum]

but overall RealisticRescaler did better

what chainner script do you use?

[ashen merlin]

i switch between the two iterators depending on which type i'm doing (upscaling base textures or generating normal maps)

ugh i'm so frustrated

why is it suddenly broken? driver update didn't fix it either

[rugged forum]

oh so this just upscales the normal

i've been using this which generates all the maps

[ashen merlin]

no

it has two iterators. one is an upscaler, meant for the dumped/captured textures. the other generates normal maps from the upscaled textures

[ashen merlin]

that's one complex chain, lol

[rugged forum]

Well i just grabbed it from anchorlight

[ashen merlin]

ya

[ashen merlin]

i'm confused still

[rugged forum]

how

[ashen merlin]

the reason this isn't working is likely because of MDL stuff. apparently emissive_color_texture belongs to omniverse's materials, which Remix doesn't support

however the rest of the emissive settings are as well, so i'm confused as to why they work

well that sucks

i just looked in the MDL files that come with remix. they don't support it

@trim pond (i'm really sorry for pinging you so often)

is what i said above correct? we were really hoping to use emissive_color_texture to light up a dance floor (which relies on an animated texture cycle), and it seems the only way to do this is with that function. if this indeed isn't supported, is there any potential of it being added?

this is how it looks currently. we can only use a single emissive color, and it ruins the effect

[rugged forum]

This would help a lot

and i assume this would also help with the other party lights around

[trim pond]

emissive_mask_texture is a full color texture, just like the diffuse_texture property. and it supports spritesheet animation, same as the other textures

we do computer monitors and TV's in portal using sprite sheets and the emissive_mask_texture, so I'm sure it'd work for that dance floor

[ashen merlin]

oh, wow. that makes sense then. omniverse's documentation had it as black/white + it has been that way when i've used it elsewhere, so i assumed it was the same here. i never even considered trying a full color texture, lol

thank you

[ashen merlin]

in this case, you can just copy the original texture over to the gameReadyAssets folder

yup, works

@tame flume look at Mark's reply above

[rugged forum]

Have you got the patch?

[ashen merlin]

my file is a bit messed up right now

for emissive_mask_texture under over "mat_5A495C9D9F21C12F", just replace ./5A495C9D9F21C12F_emissive.dds with ./5A495C9D9F21C12F.dds, and copy the texture from the captures folder over to gameReadyAssets

[rugged forum]

Wow it was really that easy

[ashen merlin]

yup, lol

[rugged forum]

though it still isn't perfect

[ashen merlin]

darker sections still need to be darker imo

that's easy though

[rugged forum]

yeah

now time to do it for those other party lights

[ashen merlin]

think that's dark enough?

[rugged forum]

yeah

[ashen merlin]

okay

i'll give you the dds file in a second

now we went back to the _emissive name (sorry)

just send me your mod.usda and i'll fix it

[rugged forum]

still could be darker but good enough

[ashen merlin]

i made it even darker than this one actually, lol

i'll make it even darker

[rugged forum]

maybe too dark now

[ashen merlin]

you don't need to restart the game btw, not sure if you have been

[rugged forum]

well turning the materials on and off again didn't seem to do anything but restarting did

[ashen merlin]

did you spin the camera?

with emissives, you need to clear the screen first

[rugged forum]

not sure if there is a difference

[ashen merlin]

it's really weird that it's not changing. it's 100% supposed to, and i've done it myself

it does look the same

[rugged forum]

did you get your game working?

[ashen merlin]

no 😦

[ashen merlin]

looks better

what do you think?

[rugged forum]

yeah i'd say that is about right

now let me sleep it is 3 am lol

[ashen merlin]

lol

[rugged forum]

But now I am tempted to do those Christmas looking lights

[ashen merlin]

i think i can get them working. i reverted back to a bridge build from 2 weeks ago and it's no longer crashing

i'll ping you with the files when it's ready so you'll see them tomorrow

this is starting to look so good though

[rugged forum]

This is turning out how I'd imagine it when everything was released

[ashen merlin]

aw man, it's crashing again

[rugged forum]

😔

[ashen merlin]

@rugged forum

[rugged forum]

Omg that looks amazing

[rugged forum]

now time to fix the lamp

[ashen merlin]

until we have proper lights working, imo we should keep it this way. it's providing nice stable lighting for the main room, unlike downstairs

[rugged forum]

the only problem rn that can be fixed is i think a yellow light would give it a more natural feel to the original

[ashen merlin]

hm, will try

@rugged forum

the lamps themselves don't look more yellow unfortunately

but the light is

[rugged forum]

well all i'm going to say is good progress has been made today

[ashen merlin]

lol, yeah

i'm happy with it. with proper lights in the future, this will look even better

anyway, goodnight

[rugged forum]

gn

[tame flume]

This looks pretty incredible.

I think this is where the level editor is really going to shine, it would probably be possible to add some new colored spot lights to the rafters and change the hue of the room lighting.

[ashen merlin]

i think we might be able to do that with omniverse too? i hope so at least

and ya, this looks great. i'm very happy, lol

[rugged forum]

nothing new

[ashen merlin]

nope, remix is still broken for me so i haven't worked on it today

[rugged forum]

is it your registry?

[ashen merlin]

i don't see why it would be. i was gonna do a fresh Windows install anyway coming up though, so we'll see i guess

[chrome mulch]

how did you break it?

[ashen merlin]

i didn't

it just started suddenly

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/182

this explains it

i did nothing to bring this on, makes no sense at all

[rugged forum]

Reinstalling windoes to fix barnyard that sounds like another level haveyou got another computer you can test the files on?

[ashen merlin]

sadly none that have a capable GPU

oh, also

it's not just Barnyard now. the issue has spread to other Remix games too

[clear silo]

awesome progress as always!
btw is there a way to fix the low-poly look (without replacing the meshes), or is that not really possible with ray tracing

[ashen merlin]

afaik we need to replace the meshes

i know SSRTGI (for Reshade) has something called "smooth normals", however i'm not sure if that applies here in any way. i doubt it does

that'd definitely be something worth asking about though

i've bothered the nice Nvidia people far too much recently however, lol

[clear silo]

haha yeah

[ashen merlin]

btw #general-remix message

drastic improvements with our emissive lights with the newest remix build

[rugged forum]

Where Is the option?

[rugged forum]

yeah this looks great especially the jukebox

[rugged forum]

is it possible to replace ui assets with remix?

[ashen merlin]

afaik no, since it's passing it through

[chrome mulch]

I dont think so

Ypu would have to replace them manually

[ashen merlin]

@rugged forum

some small updates

this isn't scary at all

[rugged forum]

what is in it?

[ashen merlin]

all of the current textures + the mod.usda file

i updated a few of them to fix issues

[rugged forum]

any specific issues that were fixed

[ashen merlin]

the larger lamp having odd lighting issues on the outside mostly

i also added a light source to the bull ride. the red glowing part on the bottom. it's very minimal

i also made the floating star mission things glow a bit. just enough to stand out

[rugged forum]

i've noticed that the outside ones seem to look different when the moon is in view

[ashen merlin]

yeah

the raster version from the original game is still being passed through at certain angles and distances

it also happens with the windows on the outside of the barn and the farmer's house

sometimes the old player blob shadow shows up too

[rugged forum]

also this machine seems to have something weird with lighting

[ashen merlin]

it's just the ultra low polygon model i think

it looks almost cartoonish because of it

i'm going to experiment with mesh replacement tomorrow

pig looks like he's made of glass, lol

did you adjust the roughness settings in Remix? that'd explain why everything's so shiny

[rugged forum]

don't think so

[ashen merlin]

it looks a lot different than mine

[ashen merlin]

i don't have shiny floor reflections

maybe it's your texture replacements?

[rugged forum]

it'd be because of the chainner script generating roughness maps and that

[ashen merlin]

something is definitely a bit off with the lighting from it

i was going to generate roughness maps alongside the normal maps, but then Remix started crashing. when it works long enough, i'll do that and try to see what's going on

[rugged forum]

i also need to fix the no textures on buildings

[ashen merlin]

that's still an issue i don't have. maybe it's an issue with that mod you're using?

either that or an improperly marked texture in your rtx.conf file

[rugged forum]

it only seems to be an issue when i have enhanced assets

without

[ashen merlin]

then it's an issue with your mod.usda file

can you send it?

or try mine and see

[rugged forum]

it'd be in here

[ashen merlin]

i removed one unnecessary thing (at the very end). won't fix this issue though

i'll have to open it in omniverse

i also increased the intensity of the large lamps. they provide sufficient light for downstairs now

[rugged forum]

Why is you bull ride untextured?

[rugged forum]

InfiniteC0re's captures have looked like this what could it be?

also can we fix the bike lights? @ashen merlin

[ashen merlin]

@edgy shard you need to change to the perspective camera in the top left menu

[ashen merlin]

i'll look into it

[rugged forum]

Wish i had someone like you to help me attempt to get sid meier's railroads working it is kind of doing a portal 2 if that ever got fixed

[ashen merlin]

they'll be lit up all the time i think. i don't know how we can prevent that

[rugged forum]

is it really noticeable in the day

[ashen merlin]

they'll be lit up all the time i think. i don't know how we can prevent that

[rugged forum]

Ok

Ok

Seems like some weird discord issue rn so probably will double send

Seems like some weird discord issue rn so probably will double send

[ashen merlin]

regarding this, does it also support transparency? i need specific parts of some objects to glow, while leaving the rest the way it is

[trim pond]

I'm not entirely sure how everything interacts, particularly when you have both an albedo map and an emissive map. I do know that we did flames as just an emissive map including alpha for transparency

[ashen merlin]

okay, thank you

[ashen merlin]

@rugged forum i can't get emissives to only work on certain parts of a model, so we'll have to wait for proper lights to work

[ashen merlin]

@fresh quartz

first image is with enhanced assets off, second is transparent texture, third is black texture

[fresh quartz]

Thanks. I'll write up a bug when I'm finished with my work call

[ashen merlin]

actually those textures are derived from ones from the real game. not sure if you should post them

i can make some separate test ones instead

getting new pics

new textures

1st - original
2nd - emissive2 (black)
3rd - emissive (transparent)

[fresh quartz]

ok writing bug report now

[fresh quartz]

What branch and commit for dxvk and bridge?

[ashen merlin]

very latest for both

[fresh quartz]

I need numbers

also, they want these logs:

• NvRemixBridge.log
• d3d9.log
• The game specific log will be named gamename_d3d9.log

[ashen merlin]

remix: 62b0956
bridge: 4d6dc56

[fresh quartz]

TY

[ashen merlin]

there's nothing in them related to this, you can safely skip that

my logs are all kinds of screwed up due to other things right now

[fresh quartz]

k

What's your GPU? I mean this has been confirmed on multiple people's systems and in multiple games, but still

[ashen merlin]

3070 ti

driver 535.98

and the game is Barnyard, retail version

[fresh quartz]

k. but we've observed this in other games too right?

I should throw together an emissive map for the NPC cars in NFSU2 just for kicks and to add to the data

[ashen merlin]

i've only tested it here. i don't know if anyone else has run into this. i did mean to test in other games, but Remix is horribly unstable for me right now and it took a long time to even test this

[fresh quartz]

No worries. I'll just state for barnyard for now and if I can reproduce in NFSU2 I'll add it to the bug report

it might help them reproduce if you can share the gameReadyAssets

or at least the mod.usda

[fallen onyx]

I have the same issue in Iron Storm as well

[ashen merlin]

the other assets don't connect at all, shouldn't be necessary. there's more proprietary stuff in there so i don't wanna share all of it

[fresh quartz]

that's good to know

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/188

[ashen merlin]

thanks

[rugged forum]

👍

[rugged forum]

what is the issue?

[ashen merlin]

emissive maps (typically) are grayscale. white = glow, black = transparent

the way they have them implemented here is full color, so when you want something to glow, you just use the color you want for it. from my understanding, normally this is done through a separate emissive map called an "emissive color map" that's used in conjunction with the original map.

so the side effect of using full color for it is that solid black is also counted, which means that there's (seemingly) no way to only make part of the model emissive, and leave the other part alone

[rugged forum]

ok i see then

[ashen merlin]

what we're asking for is that parts of the emissive map set to solid black to make it normal again

we can light up the bike and many other things with that 😛

[rugged forum]

Saw this on github

Emissive textures should already work like this (as in they should only add light on top of the original material's colors). By the looks of it your mod USD file does not have an albedo texture set for any of the materials in there. When you replace a material like this it will override most things from the original game (other than a few things which are carried over like alpha state in some cases, vertex color, etc), so in this case the lack of the albedo texture in the USD is causing there not to be one when the material is replaced.

Easy fix for that should just be to set it to the original albedo texture the exporter exported along with the capture (this is how it usually exports by default if I am not mistaken).

[ashen merlin]

yeah

[fresh quartz]

Ok so take the original diffuse map and stick it in the mod directory and test again

[ashen merlin]

that's strange. omniverse says i have one set already?

i'll redo it anyway and see

i need to get a new capture, hang on

yes, i have one set

[ashen merlin]

sorry i somehow totally misunderstood. i thought Count wrote this, lol

[ashen merlin]

so for every single object i modify, i need to also copy the original texture? if so, that really sucks

[fresh quartz]

Correct

[ashen merlin]

so much for making a remix mod pack without any proprietary stuff

[fresh quartz]

yeah that's my main worry about this. I'll bring it up in the bug report.

[ashen merlin]

yup, that method works

i really hope they can implement a workaround for this

thanks for maintaining the bug report btw. i have like 10 open already, lol

[fresh quartz]

yeah you do enough around here I'm happy to help where I can.

nicely done

[rugged forum]

bike time?

[fresh quartz]

I'm guessing the intent is that we're going to be upscaling and replacing default textures with hi-res ones anyways (eventually?)

[ashen merlin]

i'd imagine so

@rugged forum

i made these glow too

[ashen merlin]

i'll try

[ashen merlin]

i don't think anyone can really remaster a game with this without distributing stuff from the original

so it may just be expected

[fresh quartz]

well it means that every last texture in the game has to be run through an AI upscaler or something so that you're replacing it with something new or at least transformative. That seems to keep people on the samfe side of copyright law elsewhere so far

[rugged forum]

also i was playing on a new save today and after talking to a couple characters there seems to be an exclamation mark in front of your camera that follows you kind of hard to explain

[ashen merlin]

yeah. while it's disappointing that it works this way, i'm also just glad we have a solution for emissives

[ashen merlin]

that's very strange

i haven't done any of that yet and i still have the stability issues, so i can't test it out 😦

[fresh quartz]

I'm guessing that this would apply to specular maps and stuff too though. So while not everything needs an emissive map, if we're doing PBR for any mesh it needs a new diffuse map.

[ashen merlin]

that doesn't appear to be the case, which is interesting

[fresh quartz]

really?

[ashen merlin]

oh never mind

i just realized i upscaled and also replaced the original files

so it does work that way most likely

[fresh quartz]

yep makes sense

[ashen merlin]

i suppose there's no way around this

oh well 😛

[fresh quartz]

it at least makes sense. And in most cases we won't want to use the low-res original diffuse map anyways.

[ashen merlin]

this is how the current bike attempt looks, lol

[fresh quartz]

We could potentially add a mode though in the material to indicate that the original game's color texture should be inherited as the albedo (similar to how you can conditionally override the alpha state from the game in the material).

(from the bug report)

in response to my comment about copyright issues

[ashen merlin]

that would be great

[fresh quartz]

yeah that's what I said

so at least they're aware of the potential issue and might throw us a bone here.

[ashen merlin]

by the way, i used the wrong emissive here anyway. lol it's almost done though

[ashen merlin]

i hope it works out

[fresh quartz]

me too

I'll leave the bug report open for now unless they really want to close it

[ashen merlin]

@rugged forum

i need to turn up the brightness a lot on it

[fresh quartz]

huzzah! It works!

[ashen merlin]

ya 😛

the only issue is that it's emissive when you're not on the bike too. normally the game just generates a persistent particle effect on the lights when you get on it

[rugged forum]

this looks great would it be possible to fix the sky in golf currently?

[ashen merlin]

i've not even gone over to that area yet

i'll see

[fresh quartz]

small price to pay for much better lighting effect

[ashen merlin]

there's nothing wrong with it for me

[rugged forum]

in the back 9 ?

[ashen merlin]

you're gonna need to get pics. it keeps crashing

[rugged forum]

but it looks like the left pic

[ashen merlin]

i think that's just how it looks there. there's no clouds in the skybox, so the game is just coloring the area based on the color of the sky

if we can somehow get rid of culling entirely, we can fix this by using the sun as a light source

[sonic sand]

in underdground i added those to worldspaceui then adjusted emesive dosent take that much brightness and tailight have 3 textures to corectly work

[ashen merlin]

lol a bit too strong

but i changed the light properties for the rest of the room

[sonic sand]

use this bloom setting

or try bloom sigma 0.200...

[ashen merlin]

for what exactly?

also:

[sonic sand]

bloom affects all the lights and emmesive lights default bloom intensity is very high dosent look good so thats the setting u can use with evry game or aljust a little bit

[sonic sand]

increase the sigma will look more better

[ashen merlin]

it fits with how i want the game to look actually

thank you though, i'll keep it in mind for other things

[ashen merlin]

i dunno if you saw, but this issue is resolved

[ashen merlin]

@weary yoke regarding your point about auto exposure/eye adaptation, this is without it at all. way too dark, right?

[weary yoke]

Is there any light sources in that picture?

[ashen merlin]

just the sky, unfortunately

this is inside, with emissive light sources

[weary yoke]

I think there probably could be some more light added.

What you wanna do is pick an exposure setting and then work around that. So if you set it to say 3-20, adjust everything to look correct with those settings.

[ashen merlin]

ah right, i keep forgetting about exposure settings

i just change the intensity, lol

what do you usually keep the intensity at then?

oh, oops. i got mixed up. exposure is only for added lights, right? not emissive. right now we can only use emissive

[weary yoke]

You can adjust the emissive amounts to look correct in your chosen ev settings.

[ashen merlin]

the main reason i'm asking is because things are extremely noisy right now

so i was hoping to increase the intensity i guess?

[weary yoke]

Intensity will fix the noise yea. You prob wanna add a light to just get some rays in there though. Emissive surfaces will struggle to illuminate the scene without a big intensity.

[ashen merlin]

we can't 😦

it has the same bug as NV does

[weary yoke]

Aw :/

[ashen merlin]

floating omnious lights that follow you

yeah 😦

lighting up a room with only emissives is surprisingly difficult

[ashen merlin]

sadly making these adjustments ends up with the image looking very washed out and unevenly lit

so i'm going to revert it

[weary yoke]

Aw 😦 Hopefully you can find the right balance one day.

[ashen merlin]

actually:

i think this is pretty good. it's also much less noisy than before

also you can actually see in this area, lol

[ashen merlin]

@rugged forum i have some stuff for you to try

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1106420949257044061/1115446053156704407/rtx.conf

new light settings for emissives + adjusted eye adaptation stuff

this also contains a fix for the "milk bar" minigame

but ghosting outside at night should be like 100x less

(also, my crashing issue is fixed)

[rugged forum]

I'll try it when I get home from school so probably in 6 hours

[ashen merlin]

not quite sure how to get the color back

to be honest i like the new colors a bit more, but they are a tad too dull

[tame flume]

You might be able to mess with the color grading a bit in post-processing.

[ashen merlin]

in tonemapping?

i was trying, but i don't really see anything color related

then other times of day look like this

so i think it's just how it's gonna have to be

i can't really fix one without ruining the other

getting fairly annoyed with the emissive light limitation though. i think i really just have to wait until lights work properly to do anything more

[tame flume]

I'm feeling this with Anachronox as well, looks great in stills but the amount of ghosting in motion gets ridiculous. Unfortunately Anachronox can't use any real lighting because of a bug that seems to get worse with every update, where a 8M intensity purple or red light is created behind the camera.

[ashen merlin]

ouch

yeah, the lighting bugs are really really frustrating

these games are so close to being "remasterable"

but that single thing is holding them back

[weary yoke]

That’s why I’m on the search for another unicorn game, something with NFSU2 levels of compatibility.

[ashen merlin]

there's 4 that i know of

Oddworld Munch's Oddysee (it's basically perfect)
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2
The Incredibles
Madagascar

[weary yoke]

The quest continues

[tame flume]

What's sad is that I honestly believe Xuan-Yuan Sword: The Cloud of Han is that game. It has a few weird bugs-- the black background doesn't work on indoor environments revealing the skybox, and in combat certain particles don't despawn-- but otherwise compatibility is incredibly strong. But, no English translation. 🫠

[rugged forum]

how did you fix it?

[ashen merlin]

#1114261497187667978 message

went back a bridge version. for some reason it worked this time

[rugged forum]

has the new build got anything interesting?

[ashen merlin]

multithreading fixes, but the implementation seems to break a lot of things

[rugged forum]

this could possilby fix another game i want to try

but what is the hash name for the cow model?

[ashen merlin]

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ucqir79fzbaimkw/Remix_6-5-23_Old_Bridge.zip/file

this has the newest remix runtime version but with the previous bridge

[ashen merlin]

i dunno 😛

[rugged forum]

well i put the log files for the game in #game-compatibility

[ashen merlin]

i saw

i don't think it'll fix the issue, but imo it's worth a try

[ashen merlin]

i really don't wanna re-open omniverse

[ashen merlin]

4A2484DC29713D97

[rugged forum]

thanks

[rugged forum]

What is different with the files from earlier

[ashen merlin]

for this?

i explained it right below

[rugged forum]

Also when I was viewing the player model in blender it isn't as low poly as it is in game

[rugged forum]

Is the bucking bull supposed to be red?

[rugged forum]

Have you tried it yet?

[ashen merlin]

no, it's missing a texture somehow

it shouldn't be though

the zip file i sent contains everything for it to work

[ashen merlin]

not yet

[rugged forum]

Could be the same issue I have with the buildings

[rugged forum]

looks good, now i want to get into replacing meshes. also what was stopping us from adding lights sources?

[rugged forum]

pool is still dark

as a temporary fix to pool is it possible to make the arrow emmisive? @ashen merlin

actually marking it as a ui texture seems to work nvm

and next thing to do with emissive textures is joyriding.

[severe turret]

Oof, this bloom looks so learnopengl.com with that abrupt outline and tiny falloff

[rugged forum]

so i've been experimenting with manually doing the pbr maps with textures and so far i've only done the bridge so far has turned out a lot better than chainner but it doesn't seem to be there in game

[rugged forum]

also is there supposed to be a height map in omniverse for materials

[ashen merlin]

there's roughness, normal, and metallic maps iirc

but afaik no height maps

[ashen merlin]

can you show me your mod.usda layout in omniverse?

[ashen merlin]

yes

[ashen merlin]

this issue: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1106420949257044061/1112239712988569670/Barnyard_2023-05-28_00-42-22.mp4

it doesn't stay in place. follows the player

[rugged forum]

wasn't that because of unstable hashes

[ashen merlin]

sadly no

this issue also exists in Skyrim and Fallout NV

afaik there's no solution for it right now

[rugged forum]

Maybe when I wake up

[ashen merlin]

also please provide an example of this when you can

[rugged forum]

I'll provide one later but now I think about it, it could probably be the way blender was rendering it

[ashen merlin]

i'll get around to those files later tonight, i'm pretty busy. sorry

[clear silo]

yeah I'd assume it would be because of smooth shading enabled in blender but I could be wrong

[rugged forum]

new save file with everything in the nightbarn unlocked including some more lights

[rugged forum]

using materialize works rather well

only if there were height maps

[sonic sand]

this looks like a spotlight with offset

[rugged forum]

also worked on puddles but they don't look quite right
and also have worked on this tyremark texture

@ashen merlin do you want to work on these stage lights?

[ashen merlin]

sure

[ashen merlin]

aw. unfortunately i can't do anything about those right now

i'd need to replace the meshes with a small disc, and set that to emissive

replacing meshes looks extremely complex

did you set this up btw? or is it just working by itself

before and after

[ashen merlin]

crap

well, i lost my settings

tried to recreate

[chrome mulch]

how that

[ashen merlin]

notepad++ did something stupid, then i compounded it with more stupidity

i think i can recreate the original settings properly, it'll just take a while

[chrome mulch]

had the problem with vscode. i just had to add this: } in the proper lines. That fixed my mod.usda

the good thing: vscode shows you where the missing thing should be xD

do you still have the old mod.usda?

[ashen merlin]

it's totally gone 😦

and the last backup i have is too old to be useful

[chrome mulch]

oh, thats bad then

[rugged forum]

No I never touched that and the neon next to the bar seems to light up as well

[ashen merlin]

well, that's pretty cool

i didn't know emissives could just... work like that

i know light sources can, but not emissives

[rugged forum]

It might share a texture with an emmisive you've already done

[ashen merlin]

it doesn't

it also worked when i removed my mod.usda entirely

[tame flume]

It sometimes happens on things like gloss or light maps in the Hitman games, which makes me think it's interpreting fullbright colors as a light emissive.

It's pretty inconsistent.

[ashen merlin]

hm

it happens with bright neon signs in this game, but that's all

[ashen merlin]

@rugged forum do you mean an adobe app that'd be helpful for remastering the videos?

[rugged forum]

yeah

[ashen merlin]

not really unfortunately. most of this lies in the upscaling process, then converting it back to bink. afaik adobe tools can't do either of those well

[rugged forum]

i can just use rad video tools for the bink conversion

[ashen merlin]

yeah, that's best ffor it

[rugged forum]

there seems to be a premiere pro plugin that can do decent upscales

although there is a cost

[ashen merlin]

i forgot to mention

i use an old version of VEAI that lets me use the trial without a watermark

i'll upload an output upscale from it. it's processing right now

[rugged forum]

how old is it?

[ashen merlin]

year and a half. thing is, they've only made it worse in that time

there's almsot no actual improvements in the newer versions

[rugged forum]

what version is it?

[ashen merlin]

https://downloads.topazlabs.com/deploy/TopazVideoEnhanceAI/2.3.0/TopazVideoEnhanceAI-2.3.0-windows-x64-Full-Installer.exe

2.3.0

someone told me the trial activation doesn't work anymore, but worth a try

if you need the mac version, i can get the link

[rugged forum]

nah i'm on my laptop (not macbook) rn the only time i use my mac now is in bed

[ashen merlin]

https://downloads.topazlabs.com/deploy/TopazVideoEnhanceAI/2.3.0/TopazVideoEnhanceAI-2.3.0-osx-Full-Installer.dmg

since i found it already

this upscale turned out pretty well. there's some small issues, but it's still a big improvement imo

[rugged forum]

i think i ended up giving up on the upscale it was doing it was taking 30 seconds to do a frame and it was a rather low resolution

[ashen merlin]

that was with VEAI?

[rugged forum]

yeah

my mac was slow

[ashen merlin]

even my old integrated graphics did better than that, wow

it was like 3 seconds per frame

[rugged forum]

well it has an i5 6267u and whatever integrated graphics that came with

[ashen merlin]

ah, that explains it

i thought it was a newer mac for some reason

vid is uploading right now

ugh this keyboard

[rugged forum]

well it is kind of dead now it hit 1000 power cycles recently

[ashen merlin]

the aliasing persisted pretty heavily. i can probably process it with an ESRGAN model first to fix that though

[rugged forum]

this looks a lot better than where chainner was going

[ashen merlin]

yeah, models that chaiNNer is compatible with usually don't work well for this kind of stuff

that took ~7 minutes to upscale

it'd be pretty quick to do the whole game

[rugged forum]

there isn't really much cinematics in the game

most of it is just animations that will go through remix

[ashen merlin]

yeah

[ashen merlin]

this looks a lot better than my previous one too

i've learned a lot since then

that was nearly 3 years ago, i think

[rugged forum]

i've got a 240 fps version of the intro which turned out rather well on my desktop

though when i put it into barnyard it was stuttering so not sure what happened

and i want to start working on the incredibles with remix but i need to figure out how to get the game off the disc with the drm not being an issue

[ashen merlin]

i'd be surprised if it was even playing the video at the full frame rate

given the quality of these, 60 FPS should be doable. i wouldn't really go above that though

[rugged forum]

dw i won't stop working on barnyard i just want to work on it while the issues with barnyard still persist

[ashen merlin]

ya, i understand

[rugged forum]

if my vpn wasn't so slow i'd interpolate them now

[ashen merlin]

i've got it going right now actually

[rugged forum]

ah

[ashen merlin]

goes fast

oops

it has lots of artifacts

hard to avoid with the way the grass looks

[rugged forum]

what model are you using?

[ashen merlin]

that was CAIN, CVP 6.0 apparently

i'm not too familiar with interpolation models

going to try RIFE 4,6 now

[rugged forum]

idk much to i just use whatever is in flowframes

[ashen merlin]

sadly rife was worse

imo interpolation isn't really worth it with how many artifacts it tends to introduce

fun to mess around with though

[rugged forum]

it doesn't really matter to me much because you skip these most of the time anyway

have you had a chance to do a small playthough testing remix yet?

and have you looked into doing the lights in the joyride?

[rugged forum]

How have you been able to use the trial for so long

[ashen merlin]

for some reason, it kept letting me for a long time

the trial just renewed over and over, lol

[rugged forum]

I'll see if it has the same thing with gigapixel

[rugged forum]

yeah it is prompting me to log in and not working

could you send me your reg files for it?

[ashen merlin]

unfortunately if it's not letting you in, then it just won't work anymore 😦

and that's really BS too. lots of people actually permanently own that version

if they can't sign into it, then what?

[rugged forum]

well what is weird is that it is prompting me to update to 2.4.0 which isn't the laatest

[ashen merlin]

yeah, it'll prompt for the next version up

sadly anything past 2.3.1 has the watermark

and i'm very annoyed it isn't working for you 😦

sorry about that

[rugged forum]

well i was looking through the reg files and have no clue how it knows you are signed even if you are offline

[rugged forum]

Also I just tried substance sampler and it seems to work much better as it ca be Ai powered which does a rather good job and you can choose the maps to export

[rugged forum]

Also why do the texture have no depth in the game but do in omniverse

[ashen merlin]

that's pretty cool

[ashen merlin]

i'm not sure. i noticed it wasn't too strong also

[rugged forum]

But by the time it gets in game it doesn't really look any different

[rugged forum]

here is that 240fps version i had

which turned out good

could you please upscale @ashen merlin 🥺

[rugged forum]

yeah did pretty good for only taking a couple seconds

[chrome mulch]

do you need some grass @ashen merlin ?
pictures show with parallax and without parallax

[ashen merlin]

that looks great!

can that even work in Remix though?

[chrome mulch]

Well, the first one not, but the second one yes

Remix has no parallax support for now

But you could adjust the nomal map power with remix pbr settings

If you could send me your grass texture i could create the maps for you

[ashen merlin]

this is the current texture. the way it looks in-game is odd, it's basically layered on itself like 5 times

you can see it here

[edgy shard]

there are 3 different textures, one for each layer

[ashen merlin]

i don't think that's working correctly in Remix then

i've looked closely at it, and it's just the single texture being repeated

[edgy shard]

I can see on the screenshot that they are different

[ashen merlin]

oops, i must have missed that then. i'll see if i can find the other ones in the dumps. i don't know the hash associated with them because Remix's UI doesn't highlight the others in-game

[edgy shard]

the grass blades are getting thinner with each next layer, the color is also getting brighter

[ashen merlin]

i can see the very top layer is brighter and less dense

i believe these are the other two

[edgy shard]

yes, they are

in the PS2 version there are much more layers but I'm not sure if they used a shader or textures for them