Half-Life 2

[modest bear]

Send a screenshot

[cinder edge]

wdym what does it say?

[modest bear]

Like what’s in it

Just send a screenshot when you open it

With notepad

[modest bear]

Okay

That’s really weird

Everything looks fine

[cinder edge]

it just wont work

[modest bear]

Send me what you see in game

[cinder edge]

its just dark

its not transparent

well the windows arent transparent

so everything is dark

[modest bear]

When you leave

The train station

Is everything else fine?

[cinder edge]

no

everything is dark

it looks as if the sun dissapeared

only artificial lighting sources are seen

[modest bear]

weird

that's

really weird

Try this conf

[cinder edge]

this is the 6th time Ive changed configs

[modest bear]

yeah

I mean

this is like some crazy ass issue

[cinder edge]

doesnt work

[modest bear]

like the game won't work

[cinder edge]

no

same issue

[modest bear]

hm

[cinder edge]

looks like this

[modest bear]

wow

that's

really weird

[cinder edge]

whadya think?

[regal sphinx]

hl2 at night

👻

[cinder edge]

thats what I thought

btw why do we never see hl2 at night

the only place we see at night is ravenholm

[modest bear]

it all takes place over like 30 some odd hours

[cinder edge]

I think its more like 50 with the episodes

[modest bear]

I'm gonna look through old issues, try to find something similar, or come up with something

well yeah

[regal sphinx]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/half-life-2-alone-mod

do i have a mod for you

[modest bear]

Could also use FakeFactories CM, but, I think that only works on episodes

[modest bear]

I'll be honset with you

I'm at a complete loss

the only possible thing I can reccomend

is trying it with regular portal rtx

or gmod

and seeing if those give the same result

[cinder edge]

just launching portal rtx?

[cinder edge]

so it seems like

when I add a light

the translucensy works

[cinder edge]

ok so

I fixed by

categorixing sky box textures

as sky textures

but now

it lags a ton

and trees look messed up

[cinder edge]

ok now were back to the remix menu crashing

[modest bear]

No setting up the whole thing in portal RTX

[modest bear]

You see, this is why this is really weird

All of that

Should be part of the RTX conf

When you place it in

You are clicking replace

Right?

[cinder edge]

yes

well it is

but

[cinder edge]

sky textures arent

only some are

and when I categorize something as a sky texture

it turns into pure white

also tree textures arent marked as cutout textures

thats why everything was messed up

[modest bear]

Yeah that’s cause remix doesn’t have hdri’s

There’s a way to add them, I just don’t know it

[modest bear]

Well, those are fixed via toolkit by disabling alpha bending

[cinder edge]

so

[cinder edge]

how do I fix the uncategorized textures?

[modest bear]

It’s not that there uncatgorized, for the leaves atleast, it’s alpha bending shader that’s not present with the remix api

What you do is, in your mod

Click on the leaves

In toolkit

[cinder edge]

ok

[modest bear]

Look for alphabending tab

And disable the bend

It’ll be a little check box

The uncatagorized textures should be categorized with the conf

[cinder edge]

well

sky textures arent

[modest bear]

It’s weird because it’s almost like the conf is resetting when you put it in

[cinder edge]

wheres the alphabending tab

[modest bear]

When you click on the texture, go to the asset tab, and under the asset tab there will be a alpha tab

[cinder edge]

there isnt

[modest bear]

Don’t mark it as transparent

[cinder edge]

I didnt

is it the alpha blend to cutout thingy

[modest bear]

Yeah basically

[cinder edge]

but thats in set remix categories

[modest bear]

Not exactly

[cinder edge]

well it seems to fix it

[modest bear]

in toolkit, you don't have this tab when you click on the texture?

[cinder edge]

no?

[modest bear]

that

might be one of the weirdest things I've ever seen

and you did click on the leaves in the toolkit

right

[cinder edge]

well I cant

[modest bear]

?

[cinder edge]

I can only click on the tree

[modest bear]

I

had that problem once

bassicly, just have to keep looking through trees until one of the leaves work

or delete and reinstall toolkit, but you'd have to update the thing syou did in your mod again

[cinder edge]

weird

if I set it to translucent

then

back to opaque

it appears

but then the texture is gone

[modest bear]

that's just flat bizzar

also props to you for not giving up, casue ts do get hella annoying, and most of the people I tried to get it to work, like some of the people ik irl and in this server, gave up hella quick

[cinder edge]

Im a guy that doesnt give up on something he wants until he tries everything

[modest bear]

that's a good thing

[cinder edge]

so

any ideas what the problem could be?

[modest bear]

no

I have never seen anything really close to this

the only thing I could think of is uninstalling and re installing the toolkit

[cinder edge]

2024.5.1 right?

[modest bear]

try installing with the new nvidia app, that would be the latest version

[cinder edge]

you mean omniverse?

[modest bear]

no, the Nvidia app, like the one you use for drivers, you don't need to install with omniverse, the new app, because Nvidia released a new one

[cinder edge]

oh

right

[modest bear]

there should be this at the bottom of the homepage

[cinder edge]

yeah got it

[cinder edge]

well

no change

[cinder edge]

I dont get it even then why doesnt the rtx conf file work

[cinder edge]

any ideas?

[modest bear]

I'm as lost as you are

@regal sphinx sorry to bother you but, have you seen anything like this

[regal sphinx]

i have been keeping an eye on the chat, i have absolutely no idea

[cinder edge]

well

I guess I have to keep experimenting

what I dont get

is why textures arent categorized

they are

but for example tree leaves are set as particle textures

some completely arent

and some are properly categorized

[regal sphinx]

because they have to be manually tagged

[cinder edge]

yeah

but no one else seems to have my problems

[regal sphinx]

im about to try copying hl2 from the legacy branch to prelude rtx (using the same instructions pinned)

just to see if a update broke it

still works

use this rtx.conf

i've already tagged a bunch of textures

oh wow it is broken a bit lol

[cinder edge]

how broken?

[regal sphinx]

very, mostly because prelude rtx uses a much older remix build

iirc copying portal rtx's dxvk-remix works

lemme try

yeah something aint right

getting a lot of untextured drawcalls which havent been a thing previously (the gray texture)

[cinder edge]

so

whats the fix

rollback to previous version

?

[regal sphinx]

not sure, i dont see any official patch notes for hl2 legacy

still looking into it

ill update the pinned guide if i figure something out

oh lol it was the enhanced textures

nvm all is good

male 07 what happened to you

he got the drug addiction 🙀

[modest bear]

He’s gonna hit the fent fold in a minute

[cinder edge]

so

its pretty good now

only thing is

flickering textures

[regal sphinx]

probably detail textures you'll need to ignore

[cinder edge]

well

the train textures are pretty flickery when its moving

and the mantrap

and its dark life again

[regal sphinx]

yea its not really stable lol, known issues

its better to play the maps in gmod rtx or wait for the official hl2 rtx release

[cinder edge]

well

I guess gmod it is

but I have to buy that

):

[regal sphinx]

hu its only $10

i think you can find it for a dollar on key sites too

[cinder edge]

10 dollars is a lot

when youre being ruled by a dictator who doesnt know what hes doing

especially when he claims interest increases inflation

[regal sphinx]

what is ur steam acc

ill buy it for u

[cinder edge]

you cant

I think

steam doesnt allow buying for a guy in another country

[regal sphinx]

pretty sure it does

[cinder edge]

ok

then

[regal sphinx]

as long as you're friends on steam

[cinder edge]

its denoxtronic

[regal sphinx]

?

[cinder edge]

yep

[regal sphinx]

added

[cinder edge]

so

you managed to buy it?

[regal sphinx]

you never accepted the friend request

[cinder edge]

hm?

check again

[regal sphinx]

ye i see it now

done

u own gmod now

[cinder edge]

right

we switched to MENA USD last year

so u can gift games

forgot that

[regal sphinx]

for the gmod rtx stuff, follow the guide linked here
#1116089843479498782 message

[modest bear]

Could use Portal RTX, that one “seems” to still mostly work, besides animations being broken

[cinder edge]

also

I wonder if you could run INFRA with rtx remix

since it uses source

[regal sphinx]

its based on alien swarm so it would need special handling like portal 2

so short answer is no, but if you're skilled at reverse engineering like xoxor4d, then yes

[cinder edge]

isnt it based on portal 2

[regal sphinx]

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/INFRA

ah yeah im wrong

in that case it might work if you adjust the engine offsets when compiling the p2rtx mod

[modest bear]

I mean, 2016 may be a bit too new to have an Ff fallback

[regal sphinx]

still would require some work though

[cinder edge]

well it doesnt have the best graphics

[modest bear]

Still could have unsupported shaders

[regal sphinx]

since its based on portal 2 it needs the same treatment lol

[modest bear]

You could try doing what we’re doing here by dropping the portal RTX folder, the map folder, if it has it, hl2 and bin folder, and see what happens

[regal sphinx]

it wont work trust me lol

you would need xoxor4d's p2-rtx mod as a base

and his mod specifically looks for engine offsets and also the window title name

[cinder edge]

but it can work

[regal sphinx]

it could but it would take work to modify his mod to make it work

its not as easy as what we're doing here

[cinder edge]

so its easier to get xoxor4d to play INFRA lol

[regal sphinx]

maybe lol, but he's working on l4d2 rn

[cinder edge]

ah well

one day he'll stumble on it and maybe like it

then

maybe make a mod for it

[modest bear]

If I could figure out how to get api trace to work maybe I could get it done in a few months/years

[regal sphinx]

i think i could probably figure it out, he's hooking onto static offsets in p2's engine to get interfaces and stuff

you'd just need to find it for infra and if we're lucky, everything hooks the same

depends on how much the engine is modified in infra

[cinder edge]

find what for INFRA?

[modest bear]

The modified dxvk might even be able to get some of it done

[regal sphinx]

nah none of that, im talking about the main module in his mod

[modest bear]

Ah you mean the p2rtx folder

The maping and shit

[regal sphinx]

no i mean quite literally in the source code of his mod

[modest bear]

Yeah

I get what you mean

[regal sphinx]

that config file aint it

[modest bear]

Ik

[cinder edge]

so is it likely that I can get it working

or should I just not bother

[regal sphinx]

if you know your way around ghidra and signature finding then yes

[modest bear]

If it’s too much, there may be no Ff fallback

[regal sphinx]

p2 doesnt have a ff fallback either

xorxor4d made his own ff backend for p2

[modest bear]

Really?

I could of sworn that’s how all of re works

The game needs the ff

[regal sphinx]

i did it myself for hl2 as well

its really broken but it works

[cinder edge]

so its not very modified

has custom entities and increased engine limits

[regal sphinx]

you're essentialy translating vertex shader calls back into FF and having code that actually handles it, its a lot of work

[cinder edge]

so more brushes and entities can be used in a level

but I wonder what the infra_boss entity is

[modest bear]

Yeah I checked the req the systems min is dx10 max so that’s shader support only, your right

[regal sphinx]

iirc its still inside a dx9 container so it should be doable

i kinda wanna try it lmao

even though i dont really have the time to

[modest bear]

Me too

Just gotta learn how ts all works

I’ve been running in circles trying for the past few weeks/ maybe around 1-2 months

[fossil tiger]

Seeing kindness cheers me up. You're a cool person.

[cinder edge]

btw thanks for that appreciate it

[modest bear]

The day I get Kane and Lynch to work I’ll try it

[cinder edge]

well Im gonna try now

[modest bear]

https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1293436441036325036

[cinder edge]

nothing complicated

[modest bear]

Good luck

[cinder edge]

just gonna try the portal 2 instuctions on INFRA

[modest bear]

You’ll probably get the overlay

But no tracing

Still

Good luck

Open up a project thread if it works

And @ me

[regal sphinx]

i modified xorxor4d's mod to look for the infra executable and remove the hash checks, crashes when trying to grab the shaderapidx9 and materialsystem hooks, which means the offsets are different yipeee

time to go into ghidra and pull my hair out

[shy gazelle]

COMMON CR W COMMON CR W

[regal sphinx]

👁️

still crashes but hey its the loading screen

[cinder edge]

wow

didnt think youd do it

[regal sphinx]

sometimes the urge is too strong

cant resist a potential learning opportunity 🤓

[cinder edge]

especially u havent played infra before

[regal sphinx]

i did

the 1st map

[cinder edge]

ye

[regal sphinx]

like 1 week ago lmao

[cinder edge]

ik I saw that

[regal sphinx]

hu

[cinder edge]

I suggest u complete it

[regal sphinx]

i will, preferrably in its normal state

[cinder edge]

it has very deep lore

btw how did u modify it to look for INFRA?

[regal sphinx]

cloned his repo, changed the window title checks to look for INFRA and modify the launcher to open infra.exe instead with the same command arguments

also had to remove the game hash checks

[cinder edge]

oh

[modest bear]

Using a .bat right?

[regal sphinx]

nah the p2-rtx-launcher.exe

[modest bear]

Really

[regal sphinx]

yea

[modest bear]

Changing the .exe title

Right

[regal sphinx]

no

[modest bear]

I mean

Like

Changing what it’s looking for, the window name ig

[regal sphinx]

yea, it does it in two places. the launcher exe and actual p2-rtx.dll

i didnt bother changing their names, just the checks

[modest bear]

Nice

Out of curiosity, how did you change the window name?

[regal sphinx]

here

in main.cpp in the root of the project dir

i did a search and replace for Portal 2 and replaced with INFRA lol

and removed any - D3D9 text as infra uses a older p2 engine which doesnt have that

[modest bear]

Your opening the .exe?

That what your saying

That’s what it is right

[regal sphinx]

ye the launcher and the mod hook is modified to look for anything named INFRA

its the perquisite stuff before messing with module offsets

[modest bear]

What are you using to open it, cause .exe’s aren’t readable

[regal sphinx]

the source code
https://github.com/xoxor4d/p2-rtx

im modifying his mod for INFRA using the source

[modest bear]

That easy huh

[regal sphinx]

that part is, the rest isnt 🙂

[modest bear]

That’s how it usually is

[cinder edge]

any progress?

[regal sphinx]

its gonna take a few hours at minimum

💀

https://tenor.com/view/its-out-when-its-ready-gif-6182608754390432852

as CDPR lovingly puts it

[cinder edge]

well

does it still crash at the loading screen?

[regal sphinx]

yes, as i have to go re-do every single binary offset in the mod 💀

ill make a infra project post if i get anywhere

[cinder edge]

k

[regal sphinx]

ty discord for thinking ghidra is minecraft

[cinder edge]

well

Ima sleep now

ill see tmrw if u suceeded

[regal sphinx]

its gonna be longer than that 💀

i got a life other than this stuff so it will be a while

[regal sphinx]

with how big the macOS libs are, i think they left in debug headers

not that i need them in this instance

[regal sphinx]

hmm infra seems to be crashing in remix even before the module gets to load

gonna try a clean install

[last fog]

if you get infra working i'll be very happy

[soft wadi]

Is it possible to hook into hlmv and grab hashes? I'm having no luck, and I'm not sure if it's the same scenario as hammer.

[regal sphinx]

there is so much to change lmao, im gonna start commenting out what i dont initially need

this is still gonna take a long ass while

might be ideal to start with a really early commit of p2-rtx to get the complex stuff out of the way

[cinder edge]

well

hows it going?

[shy gazelle]

Sponge stop, CR said it'll take a bit

jesus

[cinder edge]

k

[dusky hound]

well
hows it going?

[shy gazelle]

[pine siren]

I'll check back in a few hours

[regal sphinx]

I'm at work so I'm not touching it anytime soon atm lol

[flint holly]

People have a life besides RTX remix projects, keep in mind that, tbh this is only made possible by just a bunch of people with PURE PASSION AND LOVE from the mod comunity

[flint holly]

is it safe to update the HL2 Client ?

i mean, this probably will break the remix runtime

so i would have to re-patch the files using blueamulet fixes

[long raptor]

Most likely not you may have to use the blue amulet fixes and then re add all of hl2s RTX mods

[vagrant whale]

Out of fun

[modest bear]

Cool

[clear sequoia]

Is that the PS3 font?

[vagrant whale]

Yeah, it has a name 1979 of somehting or whatever, but yeah, its pretty much it

[cinder edge]

is INFRA RTX still being worked on if it is take your time but just wondering

[regal sphinx]

nah i havent touched it

[cinder edge]

any plans on getting it working or just abandoned for good?

[flint holly]

Half-Life 2 RTX is around the corner so...

[cinder edge]

so?

[outer oriole]

crackhead

[dusky hound]

Who said it's around the corner

[cinder edge]

what?

[dusky hound]

Yes

[regal sphinx]

idk i might pick it up sometime, but i got other stuff going on so no guarantees

might be easier to recompile the maps with gmod's or portal 2's hammer or something

[outer oriole]

hammer ++

[solemn thistle]

I wonder if Half-Life 2 RTX thing will ship with AMD FSR Support.
I mean do they allowed to do with it? Idk, I didn't dig into RTX Remix's licencing and all of those stuff.

[safe bridge]

rtx remix isnt gatekeeping these

you can do it with optiscaler

[fossil tiger]

gatekeeping 🫣

[worldly heath]

Most likely not since there’s no proper implementation

And I doubt they’re taking the effort to implement it themselves

[frozen lichen]

Nvidia owns it, so no FSR

[modest bear]

I mean it’s a community project, I still doubt they’ll add FSR, but I won’t say it’s impossible

[cinder edge]

I know some people ported some maps to gmod but can you port the gameplay aspect?

[cinder edge]

I got a question what does the portal 2 rtx launcher do?

[shy gazelle]

I forget, does remix work with the new hl2 update or just the legacy version?

[regal sphinx]

i believe @flint holly got it working with the anniversary update

we dont have an official guide for it but it does work after a bunch of patching

[cinder edge]

like what difference does it make if you just launch the game executable

[flint holly]

Yes, but since the last Steam HL2 update I haven't run with remix and I don't know if it still works.

[modest bear]

The game has fallbacks for Lower end GPUs and you have to force it into believing that it’s on one of those older GPUs

And that’s done through an executable file

Also you might wanna ask that here https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1293436441036325036 or here https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1289195427119501424

[cinder edge]

right

because I noticed that infra will launch without it

just wont look right

[modest bear]

If the issue is crashing, is it possible this is because the game doesn’t support shader model 2, which the portal dxvk.conf has in it?

[cinder edge]

does portal 2 rtx run on directx 9 or 9c?

[regal sphinx]

dx9c

there is no native FF fallback

[cinder edge]

then shouldnt it use shader model 3?

oh right

exe file makes it fallback

I think

[regal sphinx]

the launcher just sets some commandline arguments for the engine and also injects xoxor4d's asi/dll file to make the game remix friendly

[outer oriole]

yummers

[cinder edge]

then why does it crash running with the launcher?

but not directly with the exe?

[regal sphinx]

because the engine offsets infra has are completely different from what p2-rtx.dll expects

[cinder edge]

oh

[regal sphinx]

not to mention a wildly older version of p2's engine

[cinder edge]

well

I dont think its old

just modified

[regal sphinx]

whether its modifed or old, it wont match anything in modern p2

i already tried changing offsets before but it looks like that wasnt enough to get the game running

i dont have as much RE experience as xoxor4d so i cant really go any further

[drowsy sorrel]

@regal sphinx what’s left for 0.6 before it’s ready for release?

Wait damn this ain’t the gmod channel sry

[regal sphinx]

https://youtu.be/j31ISEd8xRM

wonder if the engine is 32-bit

and if the hashes are compatible with gmod

[modest bear]

Thought they aren’t anymore because of the gmod exe

[regal sphinx]

remix itself switched to a new hash system as well

[modest bear]

Sounds like someone’s gonna have to change the hash names in the mod.usd

Or just move the textures

[modest bear]

The real question is what part of the game will the demo be

Will it be like the original half life 2 demo

[mellow blaze]

the demo will cover some of Ravenholm and some of Nova Prospekt 🙂

[modest bear]

Cool, some of my favorite chapters

[drowsy sorrel]

Are you still trying to work on the outside day area lighting looking good in remix (cause I’m guessing we’ve only seen indoor/night areas cause of how weird day lighting looks)

[modest bear]

It’s so interesting really, when I look at the shots changing, between RTX on and off, it almost doesn’t look real, like in the sense of some uncanny valley feeling, it’s very realistic, but something about it, is just, off, maybe that’s cause I’m just used to regular half life, but that’s still really good, where it’s to the point where the brain struggles to believe what it’s seeing is real or fake

[pulsar granite]

Amazing Wonderful job HL2 Remix Team 💚 💚 💚 💚 💚 💚 💚

You are breathtaking 😄

[sinful frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/breathtaking-intergalactic-breathtaking-keanu-reeves-awesome-intergalactic-quality-gif-25013821

[mystic token]

Any information about requirements? I need information for mate

[regal sphinx]

probably similar to portal rtx

2060 bare minimum

maybe even a 2080

[dusky hound]

A computer

[alpine niche]

You're looking at minimum RTX 3070 if you want decent experience at 1080p

[mystic token]

Good to know.

[modest bear]

That supports rt

That is

[dusky hound]

That's still a computer

[modest bear]

Unless someone makes a mod for Half Life 2 RTX without RTX

[long raptor]

I love the Ravenholm chapter! Had to be one of its best imo. Idk if that's a controversial opinion

[alpine niche]

Someone most certainly will make a mod where you can just use new assets without path tracing

[modest bear]

And it better be called half life 2 RTX without RTX

[alpine niche]

Half Life 2: No RTX Edition

[modest bear]

That’s even better

[frozen lichen]

Hello, some people including me are having concern regarding this scene:

I'm not sure if this is tonemapping issue or something else, but would be nice to make it a lot darker, like OG Hl2 intended.

[regal sphinx]

tonemapping would play a big role here yeah

depends if they replaced the original game lights or not

[frozen lichen]

Hopefully they will fix it, shouldn't be complicated

[drowsy sorrel]

I’m sure even then it’ll be easy for people to modify the lighting of the scene

Considering this is heavily backed by nvidia, I feel they might feel pressured to find the perfect balance between fully showing off remix’s/path tracing’s capabilities while keeping things faithful, maybe leaning more towards showing off path tracing

And of course trying to make sure it doesn’t look exactly like the original cause at that point, why not just play the original

[tiny gust]

i hate how i cant try this once its out

oh wait

imma try it on the tesla T4 we found

i hope its gonna work

[modest bear]

Eh, I think it looks good

[frozen lichen]

And it will look even better, if room were darker

[modest bear]

Idk, I like it, I mean, realistically that much fire would be that bright, also, remember, you can turn off that fire, so it will get darker

[frozen lichen]

True, but issue is mainly with the lamp brightness, or tonemapping, fire illumination is fine here

[alpine niche]

Ravenholm in general looks a lot brighter than in original version. I think these type of things are inevitable with path tracing mods. On the bright though you will gain 90% for 10% that you end up losing with artistic vision.

[drowsy sorrel]

Ya sadly it’s pretty hard to get that fine balance between showing off path tracing and keeping the original look and feel of the game, and considering this mod is basically a tech demo for remix I feel they’d be more keen to lean on showing off path tracing more

U get what I mean?

[alpine niche]

Yeah 💯. RTX mod for original HL also makes the game look very different in certain places. There will always be purists complaining about atmosphere and artistic vision being lost that was originally intended, but the trade off is definitely worth it.

[drowsy sorrel]

Ya there’s always the original, cause frankly imo why play the path traced version if it looks exactly the same as the original

[regal sphinx]

totally agree, older games that dont use baked lighting benefit from remix much more

[drowsy sorrel]

Ya with hl2 it was made with static lighting in mind, so the hl2 rtx devs definitely had to try find a way to keep that original feel while also having dynamic lighting in mind

It’s a really hard task

[shy gazelle]

Everyone’s a critic

[frozen lichen]

I may have unpopular opinion, but for me, RTX mod for HL1 doesn't ruin artistic vision at all, but just expands it, like it was intended to look that way.

For example scenes where it is dark rooms/corridors with one-two light sources with red/green/blue colors looks majestic.

[modest bear]

Unfortunately

That’s how it is

[pine siren]

HL2 tech changes (like the VR mod) see very positive response, but big changes to the graphics will make it interesting to see what the reception is going to be like. I think P1 got flack for changes like to the textures that visually indicated where u could put portals on top of the usual opinion and hw footprint RT demands. It's hard to predict the reception but to me it's going to be amazing either way

[alpine niche]

I don't think that's an unpopular opinion, I think general reception for HL1 RTX was very positive and people enjoyed the horror vibe path tracing brought, but I have seen some fans say it's not their cup of tea and they prefer original. This will always happen.

[gloomy cargo]

HL1 RTX was also very limited in what it did and hasn't been updated since it's release

[frozen lichen]

My only issue with it is a lack of good denoiser

[gloomy cargo]

pretty sure it still uses early DLSS 2 with no way of getting ray reconstruction

[outer oriole]

everyone bitching in the comments pisses me off sm

[regal sphinx]

yea not surprised

[alpine niche]

Would that amount of fire have that amount of bounce lighting in real life?

[regal sphinx]

its path traced so its about as realistic as it gets for that material

granted its a alpha card and makes it immediately not like real life lol

we'd need fire sims to model real world stuff

[alpine niche]

My brain immediately tells me the effect is exaggerated

[regal sphinx]

they could've spawned a fake light behind the fire for greater effect

remix does support particle lights but they're not usually used in authoring assets

[sacred tide]

the amount of time needed to have correct settings for every light and fire in the game would make the demo release in 2030 probably so i'm fine with that

also could be exaggerated just for this screenshot to showcase nrc

[alpine niche]

I'm sure they're doing the best they can with the tech they have, but the effect would be much more subtle in real world like in the photo below. The way it lights up the surrounding area immediately sent alarm bells to my brain when watching the video.

[fiery plume]

Most fires in HL2 have a point light in them so it appears that the fire is casting light around the scene. If they didn't remove it that's probably why it's as bright as it is

[clear sequoia]

My main criticism for HL2 RTX is that all light sources illuminate a much larger area as well as being much brighter than they should. Killing the original artistic vision as a result. It would be a huge service if they can tweak their lights to match the original in terms of brightness and distance of casting.

[vagrant whale]

crap, i was thinking to try HL RTX some day, oh well

[soft wadi]

Don’t let that turn you away, it’s a great implementation.

[vagrant whale]

is there a way to change DLSS2 there to DLSS 3/4?

clarity would be good

[gloomy cargo]

you might be able to with profile inspector but you'll still get poor noise regardless

I bet with some time and dedication from people they could get HL1 Source to look 10x better but that is talking like years away, and thats even if people are interested enough to try working on it

[dusky hound]

https://vxtwitter.com/key_vfx/status/1899289419686814126

One day, this will be in remix

[outer oriole]

Hello GPU!!!!

[dusky hound]

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[outer oriole]

if unreal engine 12 can do it so can we

lets just port every unreal engine feature to remix

nanite here we come!

[hoary drum]

least, with a toolkit like this, it'll be easy and someone will probably tweak these things out

[fiery plume]

Honestly it's pretty lightweight for a path traced title. Depending on what resolution your setting and what GPU you have you might not even need to enable any kind of upscaling at all

[maiden pebble]

hey how do i stop textures doing random blinking

[drowsy sorrel]

I wonder do y’all think if the new animations were removed from the custom folder of hl2 rtx so the original animations return

That it’d keep the same mesh hash or have a different one

Since with source and people who make animation replacement mods, it’s not just replacing the animations but the entire model file with a different animation set Y’know?

[modest bear]

They shouldn’t be doing that if you got the RTX conf #1103495588374401115 message

[maiden pebble]

im talking about textures suddenly decide to become a light source for a split second

[regal sphinx]

probably detail textures?

you'll have to manually ignore those

[maiden pebble]

idk tbh but im talking like walls is one thing

[modest bear]

Screenshot would help

[maiden pebble]

thats the problem it dissapears nearly instantly

[modest bear]

Then record your gameplay, then when it happens, take a screenshot of your recording

[maiden pebble]

ok lemme boot it up but it could be the new rtx remix cus im using the newest version

[modest bear]

I suppose that’s possible

[maiden pebble]

wth it dosent even show up in the video

idk im not seeing it thats the weird part it appeared on the wall

its in slow mo

[regal sphinx]

lmao the audio

[maiden pebble]

ik lmfao

[regal sphinx]

my rtx 2080 when i enable NRC

[maiden pebble]

it happens at 7 seconds look closely at the wall

[modest bear]

Yeah I saw it

[maiden pebble]

nvm

its shadow

in game i see light

[modest bear]

Idk, that was a pretty weird shadow

[maiden pebble]

ik dlss4 does not work well its constant dithering man omg

[outer oriole]

for some reason

in the new gameplay video

the player model shit isnt configured correctly

the weapons clip into the walls and other shit

[regal sphinx]

"lebron reportedly caught not adjusting the viewmodel scale slider!!!"

someone pls make that

[outer oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/ts-squid-game-squid-game-2-tuff-dance-tuff-gif-1192143770479362748

[modest bear]

Will do, make it into a gif and get it on discord, or if Kim accepts, a server emoji, or just smth, idk, you’ll most definitely see it tho

[regal sphinx]

ty

here is a img from remix

lol

[modest bear]

Lmao

[vagrant whale]

My GPU is Laptop 3060

[fiery plume]

What resolution are you running?

[void nebula]

Yeah, a RTX 2060 can run it at 1080p60 with Quality DLSS.

[vagrant whale]

Laptop's res is 1920x1080 (can force 4K through HDMI + TV thing)

[maiden pebble]

how do i fix the damn light dithering its driving me insane

[alpine niche]

There's been a lot of discussion online about HL2 demo, specifically with how path traced lighting betrays the original vision and how it destroys atmosphere in a level like Ravenholm.

Personally I dont mind if path traced mod betrays original vision as long as it's accurate lighting, but upon further analysis I find the biggest problem with RTX demo is how path traced lighting behaves inaccurately. If it actually behaved more accurately then it would be a lot closer to original version.

[dusky hound]

Not particularly true. Take the fire for example. Fire is extremely bright. Especially big ones. If a small candle is able to light up a whole room then large fires in raven would make things very bright

[alpine niche]

This is how you would expect a street lamp or light to eliminate in a darker environment outside where there isn't corresponding light right next to it.

[dusky hound]

We don't know much about how the images are color graded, the ambient light intensity, or the general brightness values of those lamps.

[alpine niche]

Now look how much less subtle light behaves in RTX demo, it has way too much light exposure and makes the level too bright. It loses the subtlety of how light would naturally behave and bounce.

Notice how in the above image the original non RTX version seems more accurate compared to RTX one that is creating way too much light from light source.

[dusky hound]

Hmm. I have a feeling that in game lightmaps are just single bounce. Remix lights are multi bounce so they spread a lot. So it's not inaccurate. The issue is that the lights are set to be way too bright.

Like much brighter than what it should have been.

[alpine niche]

The light sources in RTX demo expose to much light, which ends being less realistic and less true to artistic intention.

[alpine niche]

Hopefully this can be tweaked.

[dusky hound]

I think you're comparing it to other games. The problem is that when you're so used to unrealistic lighting, the realistic and physically accurate games end up looking wrong. Like you expect to see hard shadows everywhere but now you're seeing shadows that get softer and softer the farther away they go from a light source and it just ends up feeling wrong.

Afaik, remix does use physically based rendering (not PBR textures. PBR lighting. Something that respects the law of conservation of energy.) so it is pretty accurate.

All being said, you can, however make a mod for the original to tweak the light values and make them less bright if you're willing to put like 2 or 3 hours into it

[alpine niche]

Im comparing it to how light behaves in real world, which in many parts of Ravenholm was closer to reality in original game than in the demo. The exposure from lot of the light sources is just too much and eliminates too much light. You're free to do your own observation.

[dusky hound]

I'm aware. I know it's an issue. The devs turned the light values to 11

What I'm trying to say is that it's not that the rendering is inaccurate. It's that the lighting is setup incorrectly

[alpine niche]

I think this is a valid criticism from community.

[dusky hound]

It is. I agree

[alpine niche]

But devs have done unbelievable job otherwise.

[dusky hound]

Or, or. I have a better idea. Instead of messing with the lights, you can set the camera exposure down and it'll give you the same effect

And I also suspect that whatever you do, once you change the lighting to be dimmer, visibility will become a big issue.

Believe me or not, The lighting in the original game is very inaccurate. So even in a dim environment, objects stand out

Now that they have physically based rendering, all of a sudden, all the objects blend into each other

The lighting choices might be a necessity instead of a bad design choice

[alpine niche]

Perhaps they couldn't find a solution yet. I'm almost certain community will get involved and figure this out.

[dusky hound]

It's not very hard to go in and fix the stuff yourself. Remix is an open platform so you can just go in and edit any mod, share your edits, etc

As I said above, it'll take you like 2 or 3 hours to change all the lights

2 minutes if you go the camera exposure route

[alpine niche]

I would love to get involved, will just need to make time for it. I think HL community is too big and awesome to rely on simpleton like me though 😄.

[dusky hound]

My idea is to dim all of the lights and brighten up the flashlight to be 2 or 3 times brighter. It'll make the flashlight more useful and the level scarier in general.

[fiery plume]

VRAD can do up to 100 bounces but it usually does 8-20 with static lights and 0 bounces with "dynamic" static lights (like a flickering fire light). Plus I'd suspect VRAD heavily trims light rays each bounce to not destroy your CPU while compiling. The issue with Source is that all textures are 100% rough and the only way light gets bounced is via the color of a material iirc. So the lights brightness could be set properly but since everything is using PBR in Remix the light is bouncing way more than it used to.

VRAD also has no light attenuation

[dusky hound]

I was about to mention that the original bakes are very inaccurate but I don't know much about source so I didn't say it.

[alpine niche]

That explains why the bounce is so strong.

[dusky hound]

Yep.

Because I know it when I see non PBR rendering

[fiery plume]

But yeah I agree they should definitely turn down the lights so it looks closer to the original. I guess we'll see what they do though

[alpine niche]

The light bounce in the RTX version is ridiculous, like no way is that light bulb projecting that much light.

[fiery plume]

It's really just the intensity of the light imo

[dusky hound]

I don't think it's hard to understand that it's not the light bouncing that's wrong. It's the light itself

The lighting is wayyy overblown

[fiery plume]

It's going to bounce that much if it's that intense

[dusky hound]

You can just turn the light intensity down and it won't bounce as much...
Well, technically it'll bounce the same but the later bounces will be so weak that you won't see them

[fiery plume]

The volumetrics make it a bit hard to tell exactly how bright it is though. It looks to be overblowing the entire image to me

[dusky hound]

Does remix use intensity clamping for bounces?

I think it does

[fiery plume]

Not 100% sure

[dusky hound]

I mean it should. Realtime rendering needs all the performance

[fiery plume]

Ik it cuts rays out occasionally from bouncing to save on resources

[dusky hound]

So terminating insignificant rays is a good idea

[fiery plume]

I think a bug chunk of it is how intense the volumetrics are in every scene. I feel like everything is blown out all the time. I think if they dialed back the volumetrics a bit that'd help aswell

[dusky hound]

Okay I know what's going on.

The circled wall here is not receiving much light. There's fog between the wall and the camera which is being illuminated by the light so it appears as if the wall itself is being lit up.

[fiery plume]

Exactly my point

[dusky hound]

I bet if you disable the fog, the lighting will look more or less in line with the original bakes

[fiery plume]

It definitely seems still a bit bright on the ground in front of the camera but it'd probably get you most of the way there. I think just making the volumetrics subtler would work honestly

[dusky hound]

That, and lowering the exposure on the camera will help a lot too

[fiery plume]

Yup

[last fog]

`yeah it looks like the mist setting

it's way too dense. i had this issue in just about every game i tested with the new volumetrics

really hard to tweak it properly. esp if it's for the whole game and not a single level or area

[vagrant whale]

a problem of GTA V Enhanced's RTX Shadows to which people complains because of their softness

[normal minnow]

Just saw this post and was wondering what John means? https://bsky.app/profile/dark1x.bsky.social/post/3lkfzfh62wk2b

John Linneman (@dark1x.bsky.social)

By the way, if you saw the video and thought "gee, it looks good but the lights are too bright" there are settings there now to fully adjust this. You can massively tone it down or tweak hundreds of other variables to dial it in as you like. It's very flexible!

Digital Foundry (@digitalfoundry.bsky.social)
Today on Digital Foundry, we're hands-on with the phenomenal Half-Life 2 RTX demo, playing through the Ravenholm level with an added bonus - a side-by-side playthrough on the 2004 original launch code. youtu.be/QHRS0TO89UI

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Bluesky · Mar 15, 2025, 11:27 AM

Can you tweak lights placed in the remix editor while in game?

I got early access to the HL2 RTX demo and I'm just confused by what he's talking about

Because normally I have to do a capture in the scene I want to tweak, add lights, etc

[shy gazelle]

Yes, you can be in the game with the mod loaded and have the toolkit up. Any adjustments you do like adding or moving lights, once you save the mod, it will reflect in-game 🙂

[last fog]

i think they mean purely using the runtime

i'm pretty sure John is referring to a brightness slider that was added

[normal minnow]

Yeah that was my point of confusion. I know you can adjust stuff in the editor and have it update automatically in game. I just assumed John wasn't talking about that since his post didn't mention the editor itself.

[maiden pebble]

hey what time does the demo come out

[outer oriole]

good question lowk

id ask whats his face

krawlich

[devout arch]

I'm a noob when it comes to how these remix projects go. What's the process look like to contribute to the project?

[worldly heath]

Half-Life 2 RTX has a application

[drowsy sorrel]

If you wanna contribute to other projects there’s #team-project-requests

[hallow sage]

Ok

Who performed black magic on this project???

I have 24 fps

AND ZERO INPUT LATENCY.

how is this even possible????

[modest bear]

It’s amazing innit

[hallow sage]

How

Explain

[modest bear]

0 input and 24 fps, try adjusting DLSS, should fix things

[flat hare]

I have a dumb question im pretty sure i know the answer to but i still would like to know for sure, so if someone made a custom HL2 map/campaign and they wanted to add remix to it could they use the remix programme to replace the models they use and inject new custom models in?

[sacred tide]

Sure, if the game works with remix anything modded in it can work, so it's possible yeah

[flat hare]

will the released HL2 Remix be able to do this or would it take loading another version of Remix into the default HL2 install?

[regal sphinx]

it would work with the existing demo

which is preferred as all of the hard engine and remix runtime installation is done for you

[fiery plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x01FvixIZxg

Some beautiful soul clipped this literally one HMU step between the tile and the ground holy shit. This whole demo is magnificently clipped, including every first step as well!

[flat hare]

to be fair it would be better waiting for full release so all possibly remade assets are already available so you just have to model anything new yourself

[trim gale]

so, the demo is cool and all, but I'd rather wait for full rtx overhaul

[frozen lichen]

I don't get people that whine regarding new lighting, the dark scenes are fuckin gorgeus and more spooky than in OG version

[drowsy sorrel]

Brightness setting was added to remix and is set to 50

So it’s now darker overall

[flint holly]

some screenshots of hl2 rtx demo, nice to see 3080 still holding up

[fiery plume]

He's really angry

[outer oriole]

some weird emission texture

[fiery plume]

Yeah

It's really weird to see everyone with working eye textures again. I'm so used to seeing Breen without eyes on gmod rtx

[outer oriole]

ikr

HOLY SHIT!!!

THE THING!!!

[flint holly]

are u using the aniversary build?

or wich build

[outer oriole]

just dropped in the maps

[flint holly]

or by copy/paste hl2 maps to hl2rtx remix

[flint holly]

ok then

[fiery plume]

lmao

They are real

[frozen lichen]

Do you have RTX Skin and Neural Radiance Cache in game on your GPU?

[flint holly]

both of them are working, yeah why?

[frozen lichen]

I was wondering if they will be available not only on 50-series, thanks

[flint holly]

this is looking pretty neat on 4k ultra-performance, but only at 40 fps on my 3080 lol

[tall violet]

is that the mf depot 😭

[flint holly]

wich map is that?

[tall violet]

d2_prison_05

[soft wadi]

That’s in retail hl2 as well

[tall violet]

ohh right

still, the nova prospekt skybox looks so damn good

[gloomy cargo]

why does the steam overlay turn off when playing 😭

[mental summit]

the grass just looks amazing

[dusky hound]

say thx to e-man

[sand monolith]

Btw,is there a way to import those textures to the rtx remix version of the game?

[drowsy sorrel]

omg is that famous fortnite leaker pequ?

[dusky hound]

yes

[tall violet]

at last we meet again

[drowsy sorrel]

Do u still have that phone with the missing sim that has discord stuck in a 2021 time capsule

[tall violet]

i think i factory reset it

[drowsy sorrel]

💔

[past thorn]

wtf

now its daytime

[modest bear]

Dayvenholm

[drowsy sorrel]

Oh shit I haven’t even tried out this mod yet for hl2 rtx

[winter wing]

Made a guide to get some graphical improvements and fixes for Half-Life 2 RTX. Before and after shot. Spread the word 🙂
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3447468237

[outer oriole]

siiiick

[snow obsidian]

Anyway, Since loading maps is fine, how would one fixes the odd texture issues?

Like glowing red combine, and extremely glossy walls

[outer oriole]

uhh it's a replacement issue i think

[snow obsidian]

huh

Guess manual work is needed

It's kinda surreal, because running Canals

It doesn't look that far off from me importing the map into Blender and let Cycles rip through it

[modest bear]

My review of Ravenholm, absolutley stunning, I just got done and man, there's absolutely nothing wrong, I saw peoples reviews saying the preformace is terrible, is a blurry mess with all the dlss they need to use, I CAN RUN 1440p DLAA at a stable 40 fps, there are some visual bugs with the gravity gun, and occasionally shifting textures, and sometimes there's 2 models in one spot

here's that light if anyone else saw it, with the 2 lights on one model

[outer oriole]

the gravity gun keeps glowing for me

like bleeding from the inside

[modest bear]

yeah

idk what peoples problems with this was, there's one guy who was getting 20 fps on a 4080 dlss preformance

1080p

they must have faulty cards or smth man

[outer oriole]

cpu bottleneck

or temu cards

[snow obsidian]

Some models are invisible or not there

like the train

in Canals I mean

maybe I didn't copy over some folder

for the most part, it work just fine with enhanced material off

[mellow blaze]

Apparently there are copyright concerns about the conf or something like that?

Just to clarify, you can modify the conf and redistribute as you fancy, we encourage people to mod Hl2rtx and start tapping into those inherent benefits of a remix project this scale being out

Just please make some effort to credit the contributions of our amazing team and artists 🙂

[latent oar]

While PT is intensive idk how big bottlenecked you actually have to be for this to be bad

A r5 3600 like they recommend is fine

[wooden lotus]

Amazing work from the HL2RTX Team! Thank you all 🙏

[dusky hound]

Not the conf. The assets.
Why would the conf be copyrighted? Lmao

[modest bear]

Literally the only thing I can think of, there’s no way a bottle neck on a 4080 is so bad you can’t run 1080p, unless your on a athlon

[grand comet]

looks better but it would be so nice if the fog was tuned down

[wooden lotus]

you can turn it down or off quite easily:
Alt+X > Developer settings > Volumetric

[grand comet]

i've done that

i think it'd be nicer if they did something like this

[winter wing]

I think you mean the smoke particles. They catch way too much light imo but I can’t find a way to adjust that

[grand comet]

yeah i dont completely understand how the smoke works, but just tuning down the fog makes everything more readable in my opinion

[wooden lotus]

I get where you are coming from!
It's pretty tricky to match non-physical light transport using a physically based system however 0.0

[wooden lotus]

I think it's because a lot of the smoke particles have not been replaced by the artists, they're still the original assets which are not physically based

Don't worry, they're chippin' away at it

Good feeback for sure though

[winter wing]

Also might be true but I hate how a ragdoll can cause a glowing spot from smoke being too visible

[grand comet]

there was this "haze" setting in volumetric lighting i picked

[wooden lotus]

Back in my day, we had days per frame not frames per second, for pathtracing 😄 and even then it looked worse than current tech

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-dana-carvey-back-in-my-day-gif-9624417328239758570

[grand comet]

still kind of at awe we're running path tracing in real time

but i do want this to look closer and as readable as OG

nova prospekt doesnt suffer from this as much as ravenholm

[wooden lotus]

there is a staggering amount of research built upon and built upon on the hardware, software, algorithms to achieve what we have today, and i'm excited for the future

[winter wing]

Completely agree. I kind of feel like the demo got rushed a bit which is why there are so many technical issues

[snow obsidian]

The mods I wanna see is people getting HL2 maps running in HL2RTX

Even without the Enhanced Materials

just better models is enough for me

[grand comet]

im mostly impressed by rtgi more than anything else

global illumination really makes a difference

[snow obsidian]

I was able to get Canals working, but some models just....invisible

and i couldn't wrap my head around...why

Lighting wise, it works just fine, but the models disappearing confuses me

[tiny gust]

You can change how much light influences volumetrics

[snow obsidian]

maybe I am missing something

[tiny gust]

In the toolkit afair

[wooden lotus]

likely because the original assets have been replaced with higher resolution ones, and the original ones therefore hidden. But, the high res models are not in the demo, so you get invisible (only collision)

you can edit the usda files to get the original back

[snow obsidian]

Amma see if disabling the enhanced model would bring them back

[wooden lotus]

I think what the Half-Life 2 RTX team, Orbifold has done is amazing, all from passion for the game and tech.
Of course not everyone's tastes will be satisfied.
I am confused as to why a few are so hostile and negative though.
It's strange to me, you get something you didn't have before, for free!
It's a shame many don't realise that the more things you like, the more things you like 😉
If you choose to dislike many things then you are simply limiting your enjoyment of life
😉

[wooden lotus]

you have to undo the hiding of the original model, disabling the enhanced probably will not work afaik

what you could do is (after backing everything up)
using notepad++
open all of the usdas at once by selecting all and right click > edit with notepad++
search and replace with blank all open documents for
references = None

well at least for all of the levels with invisible stuff.

[snow obsidian]

I'm tempted to use Nvidia Omniverse and check it myself

Although, not sure HL2RTX have capture ability

[wooden lotus]

of course that restores ALL hidden models, including the ones which DO have replacement meshes

it does afaik

[wooden lotus]

you can just use the rtx remix toolkit
usda explorer or whatever its called from omniverse is also good though

[snow obsidian]

Fair point

I also wanna check out why some materials are...broken

[wooden lotus]

ie grey?

[snow obsidian]

yup

[wooden lotus]

probably same reason, the texture asset which the original has been replaced with does not exist in the demo folder

most likely easiest way to rectify these things would actually be to use a script to parse the log for all failed loads of textures and models and use that info to modify the usdas accordingly to remove those overrides

then the original assets will be loaded

could probably bust out a py script for that in an hour or so

but im not gonna 😛

[snow obsidian]

Itr's alright

also, turning Enhance Model fixed the train being invisible

[wooden lotus]

oh nice

didnt expect that

then the same should work for the materials/textures

of course that means u loose all enhanced, so still better to do it selectively

[snow obsidian]

I'll continue go through Canals

see if any graphical bug even when I turn those off

Because, Half Life 2, being baked RT already, real time RT still has that same art style

Just..better

Enhanced by PT alone

oh woops

[modest bear]

I noticed in nova prospect, the Vorts textures haven’t changed

[snow obsidian]

That doesn't look good

[drowsy sorrel]

I’m guessing cause from an outsider’s perspective it seems like a massive company made a slop rushed remaster to promote rtx and use hl2 shamelessly

And I mean no one really has sympathy for faceless corporations

[drowsy sorrel]

When in reality it’s just nvidia brought together a bunch of modders who done amazing work with hl2 mods to form this studio for hl2 rtx as a way to show off how rtx remix can remaster a game with path tracing without even adding support for it on an engine level

And how most of the work and assets are done for free out of passion

Tho I’m sure high level/original orbifold devs are at least sponsored through being paid and having an office workspace with high end equipment

[late storm]

btw has anyone taken a look at father grigori's eyes if they are static?

[mental summit]

shadows from the moon

ground mist

[wooden lotus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AopGsKIKMp8

[late storm]

sorry to ask this out of nowhere but, have you seen what father grigori's eyes look like? since I'm curious if they used a static eyes on him for now

[mental summit]

he can blink aswell

[late storm]

oh was thinking if his eyes weren't rotating since I don't know if they manage to fix the eye shader or did some alternatives

but still thank you for the screenshots

[mental summit]

bluish atmosphere

[late storm]

welp gonna try it out for myself even though my PC won't probably run it

oh and the specs are in my bio

welp had to sacrifice CS2 for storage reasons

[frozen lichen]

How did you enable DLAA?

[modest bear]

So, because for some reason it isn’t in graphics settings, you have to open the dev settings on remix, and in the DLSS type, select full resolution

That’s DLAA

[outer oriole]

linux b like

kaboom!

[shy gazelle]

I wish they’d enable the toggle to turn raytracing on/off, I think that’d be a cool feature. Kinda like those halo remasters, maybe like bind it to a key like P or something for pathtracing

[snow obsidian]

tad bit annoying that transparency isn't applying correctly

[modest bear]

Me too

[modest bear]

The easiest way to do that would be to open the alpha bending tab, click disable alpha bend legacy, then I think there’s value somewhere that has an option named “greater than or equal too” choose that one

[snow obsidian]

thanks

[modest bear]

If that greater than or equal to thing is wrong, just mess with the alpha bending tab till things work

[quasi talon]

not possible, the game is running in fixed function mode basically in DX8 mode with most of the graphics stripped out, you have to run the normal version of the game separately for comparisons that mean anything

[outer oriole]

i am the first person to complete the entire campaign in hl2rtx

i think

im onto episode 1 now

[modest bear]

Congrats

[shy gazelle]

It is but aight

[quasi talon]

Read again but slower

Technically possible, but completely useless because the game is running with a bunch of the rendering disabled due to fixed function pipeline

[shy gazelle]

Holy

[dusky hound]

💀

[quasi talon]

spam emotes when you can't respond

[modest bear]

I’ll be real man, I was kinda thinking like you, before, so as a recommendation, so you don’t end up as dumb as I was, and have to look back like “what the fuck was I on about” if everyone who has been doing this for a minute is disagreeing with what your saying, your probably wrong

[quasi talon]

thanks for the unsolicited advice, those people decided to reply like trolls and still haven't explained how I am wrong, so I don't particularly care until then

In the beginning I worded myself poorly by stating that it's "impossible", later I explained more exactly what I meant. I am genuinely curious how they're going to argue with the fact that Remix runs the game with all shaders disabled, and possibly other compatibility hacks I am unaware of which would further mess with the vanilla graphics, thus making this sort of an A/B toggle useless since it doesn't properly represent the original visuals you get by normally playing the game with full DX9 featureset

[flint holly]

with all materials?

[quasi talon]

So no, you can't actually have a proper original/remaster toggle like Halo MCC

[flint holly]

you need to copy hlep1 and episodic?

[modest bear]

Base remix an option to disable itself entirely, with the ray tracing button, this wasn’t in older versions, that’s why portal RTX, so this button already exists, it has the occasional bug like with the textures on dragon age, but more often than not it works

[quasi talon]

it doesn't offer you a proper original/Remix toggle, because the game has to be running in fixed function mode to start with

[outer oriole]

i legit just copied the entire aniversary build

dont replace anything

then add this to hl2rtx

[modest bear]

The thing is, it does, here, I’ll give you an example of something I threw together in like 10 mins, so it is kinda ass

It completely sets the game to default

If you look closely, it had pbr textures, and everything, and the moment you hit the “Ray Tracing” button, it all goes away

It really is a remaster on

Remaster off

Button

[past thorn]

how do i enable this?

[regal sphinx]

get a gpu that supports it

[past thorn]

can i somehow work my way aroound it to enable it

[regal sphinx]

no

[past thorn]

i know its capable

[regal sphinx]

whats the gpu

[past thorn]

i did it in cyberpunk

2077

3070

[past thorn]

rtx

[regal sphinx]

DLSS FG is 40 series and above only

CP2077 has FSR3 for FG which is GPU agnostic

[past thorn]

damn

[modest bear]

Cyberpunk was probably using FSR FG, which can be used on all cards, it probably defaulted cause your card doesn’t support it

[past thorn]

no it was using dlss

i modded it

there was a mod to enable 3.0

[regal sphinx]

those dlss mods still use fs3 underneath

those same mods do not work with remix due to it being based on vulkan and not dx12

its a little more complicated than that but i believe Nukem explained it more a while ago on this server

[modest bear]

So in short, you need things in your hardware like an OFA, and Ai Acceleration tech built into your GPU in order to use frame generation on your card, and OFA, so to be exact, 40 and 50 series cards use an OFA. While fsr frame gen creates frames between frames, essentially filling the gaps, won’t preform as well as DLSS FG, but it works on all cards, that’s the advantage

[mental summit]

your only option is lossless FG if u wanna use frame gen in remix games, idk if anyone else has made FSR FG wrk in remix

[regal sphinx]

nah it still doesnt

nukem made some progress with his FSR3 mod but its still very jank on remix

[past thorn]

is there anything to optimise the gamee

while also keeping semi good visuals

[mental summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7qr_wJp3TE&t=36s

[drowsy sorrel]

is the bitrate low cause of how taxing rtx remix already is on ur system?

[mental summit]

nah vid compression messed it up in the processing and then YT further messed it up 😅

otherwise it was fine looking in the raw video

[drowsy sorrel]

u compressed the video before uploading to youtube?

[meager sail]

can you turn off rtx remix features completely not only like enhancements to do comparisons in just hl2rtx? I don't want to switch between the two games

[drowsy sorrel]

It wouldn’t be a proper comparison anyways since alot of graphics options had to be disabled/heavily altered to work properly with remix

What you can do is record an ingame demo and play it back in both games

[meager sail]

yea I thought about that, but there are also some small level changes, so I thought it might be better to do it in just the RTX version, but I guess you can just load hl2rtx without remix injected and it would work

[drowsy sorrel]

Make sure you remove the auto exec cfg file since that’s what initiates the graphics changes on launch

[meager sail]

yep, thank you 😉
nevertheless this would be neat
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[frozen lichen]

Download loseless scaling

[meager sail]

turning off volumetrics makes it much more like the original (even darker in some areas, but that is needed to compensate for not playing on CRTs anymore) 😄

[outer oriole]

this WILL be halflife in 209

[meager sail]

half-light

[meager sail]

Tried to play the demo from the anniversary build in HL2RTX

COM_CheckGameDirectory: game directories don't match (hl2rtx / hl2_complete)```
I really wonder, how they did their comparisons?

[outer oriole]

the previous build...?

[meager sail]

probably still will give a mismatch of the directories, but I haven't tested it

[meager iris]

Wasn't there a driver update that brought it to 30 series?

[regal sphinx]

no

[fierce dragon]

That actually won't give you a proper HL2 experience. There are some changes to the Source engine rendering code to get it to work better with Remix, and I don't think we were putting any effort into keeping the non-Remixed version looking proper.

[meager sail]

Oh I see, that makes sense. Guess I'll do it the old school way then. Thanks for the heads up.

[dusky hound]

What the fuck

[outer oriole]

it took so fucking long

[outer oriole]

hl2 deathmatch looks perfect

who guessed

[worldly heath]

If Orbifold is here: please remove forced RTX IO

[last fog]

that'd require unpacking all of the assets by default afaik

[last fog]

what issue are you having with it anyway?

[worldly heath]

It’s running through the CPU fallback since AMD GPUs don’t support GPU decoding

Which leads to sudden drops in the singe digits

:p

Thanks to @outer oriole I was able to remove it from the assets and while textures do load slower, it fixed the single digits

[last fog]

i'm wondering if this is a remix specific issue

looking through the documentation for RTXIO, it doesn't seem like it should be behaving that way?

maybe open an issue for it, since this is an issue for all of Remix

[worldly heath]

RTX IO was only meant for NVIDIA GPUs and looking through the RTX.options documentation, they implemented a CPU decode sometime recently

And if I try disabling RTX IO, it breaks the assets showing it’s a dependency

But yeah, RTX IO hardware decode isn’t intended to run on anything not NVIDIA so forcing it breaks the hardware

[last fog]

it shouldn't be falling back to a CPU based decoding method though. the RTXIO documentation claims to run on all modern GPUs

While RTX IO is supported on all modern DirectX 12 GPUs, it is designed to run on as many parallel cores in the GPU as possible, so in cases where the IO throughput is not the bottleneck, the more compute cores available, the more performant it is. Essentially, load times are fastest on more powerful GPUs and SSDs; specific speed ups will vary based on the game, scene, and your particular combination of GPU and disk drive.
that mode may be limited to DX12 though?