NFSU2 (Need For Speed Underground 2)

[vague sparrow]

lol

[ember cobalt]

okay, guys. fair warning. any further discussion of piracy will yield the following:

• we warn you to stop & delete the message
• if you argue about it, you get muted. this isn't a debate, follow the server rules
• continuing to argue = kick or ban

[trail quail]

anyone test this project on RTX 3050 Laptop?

[cloud crypt]

There were some who tested it.
It runs ok in 1080p dlss performance.

Setting widescreen fix resolution to 720p and use dlss balanced would look the same but with better performance

[tawny estuary]

Has anyone had problems with freezing when activating frame generation?

Freezing is not immediate, it takes a few seconds (2s~5s)

[cloud crypt]

Dont use Riva Tuner

Thats causing these problems

[tawny estuary]

4060
2560x1080p
Frame Generation + DLSS Quality + Reflex Full
60fps without considerable input lag

Amazing

[solemn salmon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9h2lvv94ZY This video has been made on it. 1080p and DLSS on Perf. or Ultra Perf.

[velvet rivet]

@alpine lotus this vid will give you a good estimate about the performance of Remix on your card, keep the resolution low and you'll be fine

[bright hedge]

so much lag

[trail quail]

where we can set the resolution of the game?

[tawny elk]

Scripts/widescreenfix.ini

[stray panther]

Yo, guys. This looks really beautiful. But i need help with something. Is there away that i can config the reflection & the lighting?

[trail quail]

alright.
fornow 1080p dlss performance reflex boost on

lets try set it to 720p or lower

much better

[stray panther]

@desert ridge How do you mark the video to UI? I'm drawing a blank

[balmy chasm]

#1103377328530276403 message

[balmy chasm]

#1103377328530276403 message

[stray panther]

@balmy chasm Bro you are the best thanks so much!

[trail quail]

thank you

[balmy chasm]

I'm still wondering how that happened... They should be the same texture, but somehow not 🥲
Also set Roughness = 0.05 and Metalness = 0.2

[trail quail]

like this?

[balmy chasm]

Ye

[trail quail]

it seems better than before, thank you

[solemn salmon]

Welp, in the video that i posted before, They didn't worked at all [They weren't emmiting any light, without any emmisive set to them or smthng, even when i was using the brakes], but maybe it was like that because i had Custom ones equipped and not the Stock ones [still from Vanilla game, could capture them i think]. Will they work in the newer updates, or is it a lost cause?

[balmy chasm]

Lights don't have any part of them set as "this thing should illuminate and use a single shader/material for all of them". Each light for each car has their own material and mesh. Theere was no person here yet to introduce texture/mesh replacement for every taillight/headlight

[tawny elk]

Tis a tedious task to aim them all

[stray panther]

This looks so incredible now ❤️ But i was wondering. Is there away that i can config the shadow/reflection by removing those random black squares that underneath The 206?

[jade briar]

Game setup>categorise textures>find the shadow texture>add to "ignore texture" list

[stray panther]

Dope thanks! ❤️

[surreal topaz]

consegue me passar o link para baixar RTX Remix Developer Menu? Não estou conseguindo achar o link! Sou novo aqui no discord, eu sou do Brasileiro, sou muito fã do NFS queria jogar com o mod! agradeço quem puder me ajudar 🙂

[velvet rivet]

do you mean the settings? press Alt + X

[wild mango]

Anyone know how I can get frame generation working ? i dont see the option when pressing alt + x

i see dlss 2.0

[jade briar]

Do you have a frame gen compatible gpu?

[white talon]

vc apenas baixa mod joga na pasta do game abre jogo e funciona normal

[wild mango]

Yes I have a 3070

i've disabled riva tuner also

[white talon]

oly rtx40 have framegen

[trail quail]

dude im indonesian.

[wild mango]

Hmm i thought there was a frame generation mod for 3000 series cards as well

[trail quail]

press alt x

[white talon]

fsr mod maybe this wok on rtx remix

[trail quail]

if the menu doesnt appear, check ur installation of the mod

[rare compass]

Hello everyone,

I've been working on a setup for NFS UG2 and have successfully integrated few mods (full list available in README.md)

I've documented the entire process, and you can find logs from the compilation, installation, and uninstallation processes in the "output/logs" directory.

Some metrics:
Size of 'Need for Speed Underground 2 - RTX remix' directory: 7197 MB
Size of .bin and .exe files in 'output' directory: 3699.4 MB
Difference in size: 3497.6 MB
Percentage difference: 48.6 %

One of the key features of this setup is the automated in-game settings configuration. By utilizing the 'CustomUserFilesDirectoryInGameDir = "." ' option in the NFSUnderground2.WidescreenFix.ini file located in the [game root]\scripts\ directory, and a static settings.ini file, manual in-game settings adjustments are no longer necessary, providing a smoother setup experience.

I'm really interested in contributing to this project and would love to hear your thoughts on my work. Before I proceed, I wanted to discuss a few points:

1. Licensing: I understand the importance of respecting the modders' rights and would like to know the best way to approach them for licensing permissions.
2. Sharing: Would it be beneficial for the community if I shared this setup? I want to ensure it aligns with the project's goals.
3. Serial Key: Should I include the serial key in this package, or is it better to exclude it for legal reasons?
4. Original SPEED.exe: Should I use the original SPEED.exe in this setup? If so, what's the best way to distribute it without violating any terms?
5. Source Code Storage: What would be the most appropriate place to store and share the source code for this setup?
6. Mod Inclusion: If necessary, I can exclude all additional mods and only include the original game and the RTX remix. Would this be a preferable approach?

Looking forward to your feedback and guidance.

[jade briar]

You pretty much can't redist any of the original game's files.

[rare compass]

so I can update this as setup which will check if game is already installed which will be mandatory requirement for completion of setup procedure and do not add main game as part of this setup

[jade briar]

hmm

[velvet rivet]

If a mod is included in burrito's project they have permission

Just fyi

[rare compass]

Okay, I removed this link for gDrive. But in future I'll be glad to contributing in this project and crate such setup procedure for this modification if it will be required 😄

[tawny elk]

I’m confused at what you’re proposing. Is it an automated installer of sorts?

[rare compass]

it's whole installer, inno setup script

[tawny elk]

A what

[rare compass]

installer of whole game with RTX mod, rest of script for upscaled textures and rest of moddifications with customization for config (which will not require addional engagement from user side)

[velvet rivet]

By "whole game" you mean detect an existing NFSU2 installation and add to it?

[tawny elk]

Uh did you get approval from all those modders/devs for redistribution

[rare compass]

I asked about this part in my previous message if this is usable somehow so I'll try to contact those modders to get their approval. And that is whole game, even original content of NFSUG2. I can exclude it from this setup but still I'm wondering if this is useful and I can contribute this kind of setup or rtx-remix mod will be distributed/released as 7z archive with manual instllation procedure?

[tawny elk]

It’s useful in a prefect world, but getting permission from all those people is difficult and we can’t redistribute game files like that. I don’t wanna anyone getting sued or get this server in trouble.

[velvet rivet]

It's not a safety risk it's just the server/partnership rules here

[velvet rivet]

You're gonna have to figure out downloading the files over an existing installation of the game

[rare compass]

this is not a problem if latest version will be always correctly tagged at github

then it can be even resolved as autoupdate procedure

[ember river]

All the mods included in our pack we got without actively "asking" for permission because a License is what provides the ultimate requirements to copy, use, modify and/or redistribute them. So, widescreenfix has a very permissive license on their github page, same for remix (I believe they're both MIT, not sure), but if you read carefully what the licenses say, you should know what is required to redistribute the software. In the case of MIT, all that is required is that the original LICENSE file content is distributed along with our mod, hence why we have them in the .7z file

NFSU2 doesn't have such a permissive license at all, they're very restrictive, redistribution of any of the original game's content will result in troubles

[velvet rivet]

Only the HD UI needed explicit/written permission cuz it doesn't have a license

afaik

[ember river]

So basically, to conform with proper licensing, your script should download a release file of widescreenfix + license file, rtx remix releases + license file, and find the game installation (users can have multiple) and properly install each, or just use our latest release file and unzip in the game folder.
Any additional mods that weren't included in our package must have that license thing sorted out. Start by looking for github pages where the authors might be sharing the software. If there isn't any, you might need to ask for written permissions like Zolton mentioned

[velvet rivet]

Lunic explicitly said the UI isn't licensed or planned to be so it's all g

[rare compass]

I'll take care of that.
Which mods with license file should I include in setup package?
Only latest releases of:

• Ekozmaster/NFSU2-RTX-Remix
• ThirteenAG/WidescreenFixesPack NFSUG2
• nlgxzef/NFSU2AntiCull

or should I add any additional mods:

• nlgxzef/NFSU2Unlimiter
• nlgxzef/NFSU2CarSoundTuner
• Custom FNGs Pack by nlgxzef
• ExOptsTeam/NFSU2ExOpts
• xan1242/NFSU-XtendedInput
• AeroWidescreen/NFSHDContentSupport
• Detailed Map by JeansBig
• NFSU2: Upscaled HUD by LunicAura106
• NFSU2 Widescreen loading screen by Madevi
• NFSU2 Remastered Logos Cars by Lisao10
• NFSU2 Videos ported from Xbox by Madevi
• NFSU2 - English Subtitles Fixed by VileStuff

What configuration of "ThirteenAG/WidescreenFixesPack NFSUG2" should I implement?
Default or modified one which will not require additional engagement from user side to manually change in-game settings?
Also should I also use full display size for game window and refresh rate of primary display?

ResX = 0
ResY = 0
Scaling = 1
WindowedMode = 4
CustomUserFilesDirectoryInGameDir = "."
WriteSettingsToFile = 1
FPSLimit = -1

[cloud crypt]

dont use unlimiter with remix

everything else should work fine

[velvet rivet]

what happens? I felt that would've been obligatory

[spring sand]

Can anyone tell me if it works on an RX 580 on NSFU2 because I haven't seen anything about it working on AMD cards

[velvet rivet]

if you want to easily test out how well RTX Remix runs with no effort, download Portal with RTX on Steam and give it a try... any GPU that can handle ray tracing is compatible, you will just not be able to use NVIDIA's proprietary image enhancement (DLSS/DLAA) if you're on a card from another company

[spring sand]

I understand

[snow coral]

it's gpu from 2017

[spring sand]

Damn man, I live in Brazil, it's not easy to get a good license plate like that, so it's up to you.

[velvet rivet]

I'm not well-versed with how the Radeon cards are named, all my memory power is already taken up by intel and nvidia's dumb naming schemes

[snow coral]

just don't expect anything. that gpu isn't capable of rendering RT

the end

[velvet rivet]

dawg is nerd reacting even though they know it will not run

[cloud crypt]

Causes incompability and also can cause crashes in some scenarios

[snow coral]

idk if he's just thinking about some hope or smth. i've just said truth. the fact that their country is just few years behind todays standards isn't my problem

[velvet rivet]

that's odd

[velvet rivet]

yeah, I feel for general Brazillians but I can't be sympathetic to an individual's situation when they're being an ass

[snow coral]

me neither

[cloud crypt]

Also we are not allowed to ditribute unlimiter yet, so we cant work with it (thats why I said incompability)

[stray panther]

I made the graphics twice as better now! ❤️ but how do i fix the title screen? i did something and is just a black screen saying "press enter" 😅

[velvet rivet]

what did you do?

[stray panther]

@velvet rivet I really don't know I was just toying around with the graphics after i set my settings back to default. & after i finished toying with settings again, the title & the loading screen display went black but you can still read the fonts saying "loading" & "press enter key"

@velvet rivet The game still works just fine It just the Need For Speed Underground 2 display screen is black now

[snow coral]

i think somebody said that things such as loading screens or smth have to be marked in remix as some kind of texture type

to be visible

[stray panther]

@snow coral yeah it was visible until i started to toy around with the graphics texture. i'ma set my settings back to default and see will that work

[snow coral]

just press ALT+X, find correct texture and mark it as smth

[stray panther]

Ohh okay i'll try that

Holy crap it worked thanks so much bro ❤️

[snow coral]

np

btw when you will mark some of those textures i've noticed that some linked by game will get linked automatically by remix as well so they don't need to be all marked

[stray panther]

For sure, yo. I'll definitely keep that in mind

[snow coral]

but it may be sometimes tricky

[stray panther]

For sure yeah i'm starting to notice that, since this is basically my 1st or you can say my 2nd graphic modding experience.

[spring sand]

Has it become forbidden to ask now? I just asked a question, I know it won't work and I'm not going to insist if you're stupid and don't know how to interpret anything, that's not my problem either.

[snow coral]

It's not forbidden. It's just stupid question

[bright hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-monkeygun-gun-mono-monopistola-gif-16625213

[spring sand]

you are weird man

[ember cobalt]

alright, just stop

i'm sorry your GPU won't work, there's just no changing that. if you manage to get one and you can use the mod in the future, we'll be happy to have you

this is a pretty stupid argument though, lol

[snow coral]

Happy to have you

[spring sand]

Yes, yes, how to speak, it's difficult to get a good plaque around here, but a certain member, oh, idiot, wants to be nice, but I don't want to fight with anyone, so I came to the group to clarify my doubts.

[ember cobalt]

i didn't really see marosis be rude (up until just now)

if you could please... not do that, that'd be nice

[robust swift]

can someone help me figure out if my version of the game will work

please :3

[snow coral]

There was more versions?

[spring sand]

He took a simple question to the extreme if my card ran the mod, and made fun of it, but as I said, I don't want to fight with anyone, I just wanted to clarify my doubts and thank you to whoever really answered

[ember cobalt]

i really think there was just a misunderstanding

[snow coral]

I think that it doesn't matter. the real issue could be different hashes maybe

[ember cobalt]

@spring sand can you point me to the exact message that upset you?

[spring sand]

Enough of that, let's end here 🤓

I already had my doubts clarified, thank you

[cloud crypt]

You did nothing but just to adjust the pbr setting. When we have done all materials it will look like shit (well it already does look weird)

[stray panther]

@cloud crypt True lol but what looks weird??

[cloud crypt]

Look at the wheels for example. The look like a shiny oil leak

[stray panther]

@cloud crypt Well that's just your opinion. Plus, it'll get even better. This is just a beginning.

@snow coral Oh yeah. I forgot to ask. Do you know how to get the cutscenes to appear also? Is also a black screen but you can hear cars racing pass, and people talking while the music is playing.

[velvet rivet]

it's normal for it to look weird because assets haven't been replaced yet

[desert ridge]

I wonder how you can improve it. I'm really looking forward to seeing the results.

[jade briar]

Hell raven try to be nice challenge (hard)

[lament flax]

Umm guys could anyone tell me where i can download NFS UG 2 1.2?

cant find it anywhere and some links feel super sus

[snow coral]

https://tenor.com/view/piracy-its-a-crime-you-wouldnt-steal-a-car-you-wouldnt-steal-a-handbag-you-wouldnt-steal-a-mobile-phone-you-wouldnt-steal-a-dvd-gif-20041955

[jade briar]

Rule 5

#rules

[stray panther]

@desert ridge I know right? We just gotta wait and see. The graphics to Remix looks fire already.

[lament flax]

but then where do i get it at all? I can pay for it if its a legit copy

[jade briar]

The game isn't available for sale. You can find a disk on ebay, most likely.

[lament flax]

oh

[snow coral]

we're not talking about it. just search

[cloud crypt]

No person (if he has a modern pc) has a cd drive anymore

And you cant trust eBay copys

[cloud crypt]

Im always nice 😂
But sometimes even I have to tell the truth

[timid prairie]

btw yeah

[surreal ruin]

I do ^^

[ember cobalt]

it's the only way to get the game, which means it's the only way we (the server) allow

they need to get a copy and get a drive

[fair crystal]

I (now) use a notebook's cd/dvd drive on an USB adapter. Best way to repurpose a drive you've removed to install a second HDD on a laptop.

[velvet rivet]

I have a DVD drive (that I never use)

it's better to have and not need but damn is 99% the stuff I do all digital

[cloud crypt]

Yeah true, I also still have one

[rare compass]

Hi, I found a clue/fix for that.
I was messing around with some mods and there is "Need for Speed: Underground 2 reVamped" which contain "NFS HD Reflections by Aero_"
https://nfsmods.xyz/mod/3363
and this NFS HD Reflection mod fix this issue for RTX remix, still ther is some UI texture overlay but mirror is working, also "Need for Speed: Underground 2 reVamped" is working properly with RTX remix

[jade briar]

Stop

[rare compass]

what happened?

[desert ridge]

I didn't install the mod you mentioned, where the mirror appears to be working (although it's not a real mirror reflection). I believe the recent build of Remix fixed that issue, but it introduced another problem in other games, such as flipping normals.

[pearl matrix]

roughness being too low causes those weird white reflections

[jade briar]

yes

[desert ridge]

Currently, we cannot fix this issue without scripting and interacting with the Remix render API. The problem arises because random cars share the same texture hash, and the car interior also shares the car's body texture. So, if we apply roughness, it will be applied to the entire car, including the interior.

[verbal rock]

can someone help me? my game doesn't open with rtx remix

[rare compass]

what is the problem? do you've any log output in game root path?

[verbal rock]

the game opens for a few seconds and closes, I was able to see this through the task manager

yes! the "RTXRemix.log" and "SPEED2_d3d9.log"

[rare compass]

paste few latest logs here from those files

[rare compass]

also, this issue just appears after you installed rtx remix mod or NFSU2 works correctly for you with rtx remix mod previously?

[verbal rock]

yes, i've the clean version of the game. Okay, i'll try to use a different path

[verbal rock]

yes, just with RTX Remix, without the mod the game works

[rare compass]

are you followed all steps for "Install instruction" in expanded "Description" section?

https://www.moddb.com/mods/need-for-speed-underground-2-remix/downloads/underground-2-remix-03

[verbal rock]

Yes, I followed it step by step, but the game didn't open for me to customize the graphics settings

I tried again on another path, but the same problem, the game doesn't open

[ember cobalt]

can you please NOT share pirated content?

first and final warning

[rare compass]

sorry

[verbal rock]

Does anyone have a solution?

[rare compass]

How did you moddify your game? You make an copy of game:
e.g.
Target path: "C:\Program Files (x86)\EA GAMES\Need for Speed Underground 2"
to
Dest path: "C:\Need for Speed Underground 2"
and then you moddified this copy in "C:\Need for Speed Underground 2"?

[verbal rock]

yes

[rare compass]

if yes, then move original version of game"
"C:\Program Files (x86)\EA GAMES\Need for Speed Underground 2"
to different location e.g "C:\Program Files (x86)\EA GAMES\Need for Speed Underground 2 - bak"
and then take this **moddfied vesion **and move it as
"C:\Program Files (x86)\EA GAMES\Need for Speed Underground 2"

because NFSU2 by default is storing SAVEs in "%LocalAppData%\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\EA GAMES\Need for Speed Underground 2" and configuration as registry keys in "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\EA Games\Need for Speed Underground 2" and those paths are called/verified by speed.exe when you exec game.
So this should be solution for your problem 🙂

[verbal rock]

same problem

[rare compass]

It's looks like a problem with your configuration or computer spec. Try to reinstall game, check if it will run, close it, install rtx remix mod and run it. If it will not launch properly it looks like some system dependencies or drivers problem. Maybe someone else have better idea?

[tawny estuary]

qual tua GPU meu filho?

[verbal rock]

RTX 2060 12gb

No

[jade briar]

You do not need a wrapper

[verbal rock]

Wait, I think I got it

Yesss, the game opened!

Finally

Driver issue, reinstalled graphics card driver solved the problem

[bright hedge]

many cant handle the truth

[vague sparrow]

There's no 12gb on a 2060

[verbal rock]

12gb version

from Zotac

dual fan

I should have done this from the beginning, so sorry guys

thank you for the patience

[vague sparrow]

Wait

[fringe ermine]

Do any other mods work with this RTX remix?

[vague sparrow]

There does exist a 12gb 2060

[fringe ermine]

yeah pretty sure Zotac, gigabyte, MSi, EVGA and most likely asus all had a 12GB variant of the 2060.

[velvet rivet]

never heard of a 2060 12 before, it has the same CUDA cores as a Super so it's pretty odd how they give it a stealthy name by just calling it a 2060

[verbal rock]

I really have it due to the amount of VRAM, since I use AI image generators a lot

Pretty useful for me

[velvet rivet]

what software do you use? I've been pondering it but I don't want to waste time downloading something that takes a lot of space for lackluster results

[verbal rock]

Stable Diffusion

WebUI interface

Space used on average of 50GB of files

But I have 2 ssd and a hdd

[velvet rivet]

50 gigs of just training data is too much for me so I'll just stick to using websites

[verbal rock]

It's a lot, it reaches up to 90gb with all the control-net extensions and some models 💀

[jade briar]

You need like 10 gigs if you're sharing out

[velvet rivet]

sharing out?

[verbal rock]

with google colab you mean?

[jade briar]

Starting

Out

Autocorrect

[velvet rivet]

Just Edit You're Message

[jade briar]

https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660

[verbal rock]

10GB if you just installed the software

all the models and checkpoints are installed separately

the stable diffusion xl base and the refiner total 12gb together

[velvet rivet]

I'm running out :(

[verbal rock]

almost more than me lol

[velvet rivet]

almost? you have an entire empty drive

[verbal rock]

yes

but is a hdd

very slow for ai

[velvet rivet]

why even have it plugged in if ur not gonna use it

I use my 7200rpm drive for small programs and older games, I still get instant load times for those use cases

[verbal rock]

idk

it’s for very specific stuff

[velvet rivet]

cache? backup? if it's a backup drive you shouldn't have it constantly spinning

[verbal rock]

for very small archives

docs

.psd archives

and my rpg stuff

[velvet rivet]

2 terabytes of docs lol

I'd recommend saving some space and moving some older/smaller games there for many games you don't need any more than 7200rpm

even PS3 era stuff has minimal load times, at that time the standard was around 5100rpm

not to mention slower data connection speeds before SATA

[verbal rock]

I think I'll do that, thanks

[velvet rivet]

SSDs are great but for some use cases it's unnecessary and gives no benefit

[verbal rock]

yes, make sense

[opaque cosmos]

Please, can I use RTX 2080 to play this mod?

[velvet rivet]

yes

any card capable of ray tracing can run RTX Remix mods

[opaque cosmos]

But I tried it last night and I only had very low FPS

And my GPU usage is very low, only using a lot of video memory

I'm redownloading the mod

[velvet rivet]

lower the settings (press Alt + X to open the Remix settings menu)

[opaque cosmos]

Do I just need to copy these files to the directory of the original game?

[velvet rivet]

the default settings for the NFSU2 mod are pretty high iirc

[velvet rivet]

yes if you got it running before you didn't do anything wrong

there's no magic way of installing it differently for better performance or whatever you might be thinking

[opaque cosmos]

GPU usage is very low, is this normal?

[velvet rivet]

what does rivatuner say

[opaque cosmos]

ha?

[opaque cosmos]

I mean, when I'm using this mod, my graphics card usage is only 5%

[velvet rivet]

screenshot?

[opaque cosmos]

I'm redownloading the game, please wait.

[opaque cosmos]

What are the specifications of your computer? Can you tell me?

[velvet rivet]

I have an i9-9900K and RTX 2060 Super and I ran Portal with RTX decently

[opaque cosmos]

my PC is RTX 2080 and 8700K ES

[velvet rivet]

yeah settings look too high

[opaque cosmos]

Are you using dx11 or vk?

[opaque cosmos]

Can you send me your settings, I would get more FPS if I use the highest performance DLSS, but that would be very blurry

[velvet rivet]

I think I put almost everything on lowest, I uninstalled it so I can't tell you

[opaque cosmos]

its ok

thx

[safe patrol]

Those are rookie numbers.

[jade briar]

Sheesh

[balmy chasm]

"The Curse of C Drive" - when it doesn't matter how big drive it is, but you always have tight 30Gb left and have to keep it so in order if some app does something weird

[velvet rivet]

LMFAO

[balmy chasm]

I personally got 24.4 left

[velvet rivet]

I need to downsize my boot drive or at least analyse which stuff I need to redo cuz I gotta reinstall Windows at some point

so many ancient driver conflicts are stopping me from doing basic things and give me extremely specific issues that have never been documented on the internet

[jade briar]

And that's only because I have a few games installed in it

Since it's an nvme ssd

[tawny estuary]

[trail quail]

see thats why i dont spend money on storage

i would nest files there and forget about them

[vivid thicket]

bro, how tf is your pc working

[tulip arrow]

good fucking LORD

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU USE THOSE FOR

[velvet rivet]

I need another drive

I might get my first SATA SSD I need more stuff to fill the 6 drive bays in my full size case

[bright hedge]

bruh u still have plenty

[bright hedge]

C for some reason always will eventually get near full

[safe patrol]

Uh...I haven't done a fresh install of windows for like 8 years. Some of it is backups, some of it is music, some of it is games, some of it is AI models (dang those can take up a lot of space), some of it is ISOs of various operating systems, etc etc. Plus a couple of decades of clutter.

[tulip arrow]

Jesus

[safe patrol]

Most of my media is on a NAS in my basement, some of which is backed up to one of the USB drives here (the big Elements drive)

The Seagate USB drive is for mobile movies: I have a system that automatically transcodes my movies to 720p H.264 (most of my stuff is otherwise 1080p HEVC) and puts it here. When I take the family on road trips I stick that in a system I built into the minivan so the kids have stuff to watch in the back seats.

Every once in a while I run windirstat on my main drives to identify junk that's taking up space and clean it up a bit. Trust me, it could look worse.

[velvet rivet]

Can't make a joke around this generation anymore,,,,

[bright hedge]

im the king of jokes

[blazing bone]

me who has 12tb of storage

[oblique geode]

NFSU2 Remix doesn't run

pls help

[verbal rock]

@oblique geode describe your problem

[blazing bone]

First, do you have an rtx card?

[pallid river]

%temp%, registry pileup, orphaned files

[oblique geode]

yes, I have an RTX 3050

[oblique geode]

I try to run the executable, its process runs for a few seconds and then it dies

[verbal rock]

same problem that happened to me lol

reinstall gpu drivers solved for me

[tawny elk]

Try rebooting. The process may have hung and it could be preventing it from relaunching

[oblique geode]

it's not about the drivers or the process

it has to be something in the game

in fact, when I remove the d3d9.dll, it runs perfectly fine, albeit without the RTX

[fair crystal]

The same happened to me when I tried installing the latest version over an old release.

[bright hedge]

"orphaned" lol

[lusty storm]

This project just stopped? Any updates?

[balmy chasm]

Check Github for updates
*it makes me feel like we need a bot which will post Github update messages here automatically *

🤔

[oblique geode]

except it's a fresh install of the latest build

maybe I should install the dependencies first, then the mod

[solemn salmon]

Widescreen Fix tends to just not run the game if the resolution set in it can't be properly displayed on your screen. Try to first set it to 720p and then try higher, after it runs with it, install the mod.

[oblique geode]

it's not about widescreen fix either. like I said above, when I remove d3d9.dll, it runs perfectly fine (but without RTX Remix)

please do DM it

[humble niche]

This is actually pretty easy to set up but it requires some higher level permissions in the discord in question. You can do a webhook on discord that posts from GitHub and puts the messages here.

[tawny elk]

It’ll get done when it gets done

[ember cobalt]

@solemn salmon @oblique geode stop discussing piracy. we're cracking down hard on it because you guys just don't stop. you get 1 warning, then you're kicked. please follow the rules

[oblique geode]

but i'm trying to fix a problem

my ug2 remix won't run

[ember cobalt]

if it involves piracy, discussion of said fix isn't allowed here

[tawny elk]

Y’all jumping through so many hoops for something that isn’t finished yet

[oblique geode]

somehow it works for everyone else but me

[tawny elk]

Is it worth it to make it work though? It’s not complete.

[solemn salmon]

It's still nice to see it in "new coating" lolk

[tawny elk]

I agree, but if it’s not working easily I wouldn’t spend too much time making it work.

[oblique geode]

never back down, never give up

[tawny elk]

Fair enough. You’ll need to patch your game up to 1.4. I think the patches are on pcgamingwiki?

[oblique geode]

you mean 1.2?

1.4 is for UG1

[tawny elk]

No there’s 1.4 for UG2.

It’s needed for widescreen fix among other things

[oblique geode]

all I can find on the internet is UG1

if you have 1.4 patch for UG2, please DM it to me

[ember cobalt]

are you sure? i can't find any info on that

latest i see pretty much everywhere is 1.2

https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/files/file/1065-need-for-speed-undergound-2-patches/

[tawny elk]

Welp

Guess I miss remembered. My bad

[oblique geode]

I saw this post on github forum, from a guy that had the same problem and how he solved it

[tawny elk]

Are you using asi loader?

[oblique geode]

yes

[tawny elk]

Did you try renaming remix to d3d9.asi?

[oblique geode]

not yet

i'll try

didn't work

[tawny elk]

Whats in the d3d9 log?

[tawny elk]

What about the bridge log? It’s in .Trex

[tawny elk]

Welp there’s your answer. Something with the bridge isn’t working

[oblique geode]

weird

i have the latest build

[solemn salmon]

Maybe just... Delete the spaces in the Game's Folder name? I heard people were having issues if for some reason it had spaces in it, but i don't remember if i had any spaces or not... And can't check rn.

[tawny elk]

Might want to move it out of program files as well.

[oblique geode]

hmmmm

[tawny elk]

That can cause lots of problems

[oblique geode]

still didn't work
i moved it outta program files and deleted spaces

[tawny elk]

I got nothin

[oblique geode]

rip

i'll try reinstalling it in a different path

[lusty storm]

I found the Git but now im completely lost on the installation with the new files, also that Moddb site has a completely different instalation guide then the video tutorial i found here on discord

[balmy chasm]

Which video?

[jade briar]

Just use the moddb version

That's the newest version available

And use that guide

[lusty storm]

I'm messing with that fallback lightning and it can help with the back of the car

[cloud crypt]

Its not realistic, also fallback lighting is bad (can cause a big performance hit once we placed all lights)

[vague sparrow]

it does look nice now but nowhere near the original

[oblique geode]

i just gave up on making my ug2 remix work

[oblique geode]

for some reason it keeps refusing to work

i've even installed the older version

i guess i've gotta wait forever for a new update

[balmy chasm]

You can try older versions

[cloud crypt]

@oblique geode , short question short: did you enabled Hardwareacceleration in Windows?
Did you only use the moddb Version?
Did you only use widescreen fix and nothing else?
Did you used the latest remix, dxvk and bridge build?
And most importantly, what gpu u running?

And maybe could you send a pic if your widescreen fix settings?

[jade briar]

I'm pretty sure the answer to all those questions is yes

[oblique geode]

0.2 is the oldest available and I tried that

[balmy chasm]

ModDB hosts 0.3.7

[oblique geode]

it's just 0.3

the .7 is the extension .7z

[balmy chasm]

Ah, makes sense

How about running Remix without our files then? It is as simple as pasting files from here https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/releases/tag/remix-0.4.1

[wise tendon]

Hey guys, I installed the RTX mod for NFSU2 and I see both the mouse pinter of the game and my PC, plus some parts are with the old graphics, and there is rain raining from below the arrow that shows you were to go above your car...

Does someone have this issue too?

For some reason disabling Vsync fixed it........what ?

[tawny elk]

Interesting, where'd ya find that

The grime in the middle of the lanes always confused me at the resolution they used. It just turns to noise

[wise tendon]

Would some good soul provide me with the best ( for them or at all ) setting for the remix settings menu ?

[tawny elk]

Moddb

[wise tendon]

I have the link open for the RTX mod but I do not see any recommendation on the page of the mod, or am I looking at the wrong place? https://www.moddb.com/mods/need-for-speed-underground-2-remix/downloads/underground-2-remix-03

[tawny elk]

It's in the files there afaik

[cobalt peak]

I wonder, will car reflections ever be possible? Like, without having to manually edit the car material

[balmy chasm]

The day they're possible, there will be no limits to modding(except LODs may be)

[cobalt peak]

Anyone that still remembers the first version?

Well, basically not the very first, since this one already includes the roads, dirty tracks and sidewalks which Burrito added later

Probably 1.2 or 1.3

[balmy chasm]

With wide speedometer and map looks like it's been in 2008 or something

[cobalt peak]

Yep

[candid zealot]

guys

the bridge-remix

is expired

pls someone sends the new link

[left rapids]

@candid zealot
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/releases/tag/remix-0.4.1

[jade briar]

How is it expired

Also what are you trying to do?

[cobalt peak]

Why are most lights white now?

Even my red underglow is white

[wintry fable]

because it's not ready yet
known issue

[jade briar]

You can go to remix dev settings, game setup, paramater tuning, and change the "Vertex color strength" value to 1

This will get back colors, but will also cause undesirable changes in lighting colors

[cobalt peak]

Ah thanks

[cobalt peak]

Caleb Reece is HIM

[bright hedge]

do ne vide vide

xD

[vivid thicket]

what color is your nissan?

[jade briar]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/C3xeTNliCbE/?igsh=a2FvM2lrZGdvMXRp

[vivid thicket]

true

[velvet rivet]

you sent this exact message like a month ago and I still don't see it

they're both bald men

[lone dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/displeased-jean-luc-picard-star-trek-the-next-generation-not-happy-gif-23455400

[velvet rivet]

I did not think to put my GPU in nickname until now

now people don't gotta ask over and over

[tawny elk]

You’ll never stop me I’ll always ask

[velvet rivet]

I know ur joking but I hate it when people do that there's no reason to when the answer is right there

used to be in the official STW server and people so often asked for my PL and username when it was right there in my nickname

[fair crystal]

I'm terrible at discord. How does one does that?

[jade briar]

Right clivk on your name and select "edit server profile"

[fair crystal]

My bad, on mobile*

Found it, nvmd

[jade briar]

I've already forgotten your name now

[velvet rivet]

Right clivk on your name and select "edit server profile"

[jade briar]

https://tenor.com/view/braveheart-history-gif-26709743

[oblique geode]

what color is your pontiac

[signal valve]

Why the game is so noisy with RTX? Isn’t there any denoiser?

Just look at the wheels

[ember cobalt]

• this is WIP
• there is a denoiser
• that issue is probably unrelated to said denoiser
• what DLSS setting are you using?

[velvet rivet]

DLSS ray reconstruction has the best denoiser but it's not in the public runtime yet for some reason

[bright hedge]

did ray reconstruction also have sharper image

?

i remember dlss sometimes just making this blurrier

[velvet rivet]

yeah it looks as good if not better than native at this point
https://youtu.be/cbKqp32ODDw
https://youtu.be/0ETEGGlYi1I

[bright hedge]

so does it look better than native or not

never understood why doing the cut thing

[velvet rivet]

I sent u examples form ur own opinion

[pearl matrix]

Disable motion blur

[signal valve]

Thx

[signal valve]

Idk

What dlss

[ember cobalt]

upscaling technology made by Nvidia. it makes running path tracing more manageable

press Alt+X in game. you'll see it

[signal valve]

I know about dlss lol

I didn’t know how to turn on

[bleak hull]

The wheel is because of motion blur, not denoiser I believe.

[cobalt peak]

Our graphic cards may be to bad

[signal valve]

Yes, it is

[cobalt peak]

I have a 3070 Ti and have terrible denoising, and like 20-30FPS with this version

Which is why I still use the first RTX Remix preset from Burrito

Denoising is fine and so are fps

[signal valve]

Im gonna buy 4070 super. I think that’s would be enough for 1080p

[cobalt peak]

I wonder, what resolution would go well with the 3070ti?

[signal valve]

Can you send it to me?

By torrent

[cobalt peak]

IDK how to upload a torrent

[jade briar]

[vague sparrow]

do you guys think you might need to redo these textures? too bumpy with RR on

[tawny elk]

Yea the roads will be getting reworked with better UVs to allow for modern texel densities. It’s quite a bit of work though.

[surreal ruin]

The roads are completely being reworked yes

[dusty grove]

RR changed PBR look completely

[bright hedge]

this looks amazing

[cloud crypt]

I will redo the lighting, dont worry

[dusty grove]

Ray Reconstruction is really good, but this thing is kinda annoying. (way to fix it is enable/disable RR multiple times)

[earnest plinth]

I have a 4070 Super, if you want I can send you some screenshots with fps at 1080p

[tender musk]

hello guys, how to fix this ? 😅

[signal valve]

Yes please

[signal valve]

How can I use it?

Dlss 3.5

I know that’s available for rtx30xx

[earnest plinth]

Perhaps he just copied the files over from Portal RTX, since it is updated for Ray Reconstruction already?

[cloud crypt]

Enable fog in options

[tender musk]

wow thanks 😀

[blazing crescent]

My game is beem stuck and with the horrible graphics, can you share your config?

[tender musk]

is there a way to get better performance? i have like 15-20 fps xd i have 2070s

[signal valve]

only dlss

[signal valve]

idk how to share it

[tender musk]

if i put on dlss performance the graphics is brah

[blazing crescent]

my game is with this blur, got a 2060

[signal valve]

disable motion blur and restart it

[signal valve]

yes

[earnest plinth]

Internal Resolution at 1920x1080. One set of images is with DLSS Quality (internal res at 1280x720) and the other set of Images is at DLSS Full Screen (internal res at 1920x1080). This is with my 4070 Super. As you can see, without FG, it is possible to drop below 30fps

[tender musk]

I don't have this problem

[signal valve]

lol

have almost same fps on my 3060

[earnest plinth]

Just managed to hit 19fps with no dlss at 1080p

[earnest plinth]

strange

[earnest plinth]

with or without Frame Gen?

[signal valve]

how many fps?

[signal valve]

without, but with dlss on balance

[earnest plinth]

Well thats not an apples to apples comparison then

[blazing crescent]

How do I change to DLSS 3.0?

[tender musk]

10-15 xd

[earnest plinth]

Hmmm are you using an old rtx remix version?

[velvet rivet]

way better

RR my beloved

[tender musk]

when i start the car he drops at 10-15 fps xd

[blazing crescent]

I don’t know, I downloaded through a link I passed here in the group. Do you have the link to the game and DLSS 3.0?

[signal valve]

so why dont u use upscale balance?

[velvet rivet]

you don't just download DLSS it's included with everything and your graphics drivers

if you have the latest everything you have the latest features

[tender musk]

is 5 fps more xd

[velvet rivet]

5 more's better than none when the margin is that wide

[tender musk]

true

[velvet rivet]

pretty sure I played Portal with performance and everything on lowest

[earnest plinth]

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/releases

[tender musk]

i'm using too the 0.4.1

[blazing crescent]

I would love to play the game, but there are no easy tutorials explaining how to install and make changes. But thanks for your help.

[tender musk]

on ultra performance

[earnest plinth]

May I ask how you got RR to work? I assume you copied over the files from PortalRTX? I tried to copy the remix files from PortalRTX (trex folder, d3d9.dll , dxvk_d3d9.dll and NvRemixBridge32.dll ) into NFSU2 but for me it doesnt work, game doesnt start. Is there something else I gotta do?

[tender musk]

with dlss 3,5 is better performance ?

[velvet rivet]

ray reconstruction is essentially a different denoiser, it may run about the same or a few frames better depending on the use case

[tender musk]

hmmm thanks for the info

[desert ridge]

#1103377328530276403 message

[blazing crescent]

Do you have a reliable link to download the game?

[surreal ruin]

No, discussion of piracy on the server is not allowed.

[velvet rivet]

also if it helps you a little bit NVIDIA's naming scheme with DLSS/DLAA is misleading, the version number is moreso for the deep learning algorithm itself which gets continually updated (currently 3.5.10) but they for some reason use specific version numbers as buzzwords for features that are reliant on DLSS but intrinsically aren't a part of the upscaler itself (e.g. frame generation and ray reconstruction), you technically always use the latest version of DLSS when you upscale a game with it but you can only use those specific features if they're implemented in the game

[blazing crescent]

but is there an official link to buy? Not found in Steam for example.]

[velvet rivet]

nope

[blazing crescent]

I’m not looking to foment piracy

[surreal ruin]

The game was never sold digitally

[velvet rivet]

I unfortunately don't have the box(es) but the discs are in cute little sleeves

I put HP2 in a crappy jewel case I have a ton of empty ones I forgot where I got them

Carbon is kind of boxed, I think it's a later release where it's just a jewel in a cardboard sleeve

[signal valve]

lol

so how do i manage to get nfs und 2?

if the piracy is an evil

and i even cant buy it anymore

0_o

[velvet rivet]

you have to time travel back to 2005 so you can get a copy off the shelf officially

[signal valve]

yes

[tender musk]

another problem for me the light is never works on the car(Brake)

[sour mulch]

game crushes in game menu after clicking Load Profile

[velvet rivet]

the car lights aren't fully implemented iirc

[tender musk]

ah okay

[tender musk]

I was contacted a long time ago with the ea support for where I can find to buy, but they told me that it is not possible

sorry my english is brah

[velvet rivet]

readable enough

[signal valve]

lol 200 fps instead of 20

[velvet rivet]

omg It Looks Like Real Life Ray Tracing

[cloud crypt]

Its not raytracing but had to share these

only properly used reshade XD and some custom roads

[tender musk]

👀

[old condor]

Where do I find use RTX.isReflexEnabled at ?

Idk what file it is

[dusty grove]

You need only:
.trex
d3d9.dll
d3d9.pdb
NvRemixLauncher32.exe
NvRemixLauncher32.pdb

UPD: just copy .trex folder, and download bridge from GitHub, this way you will get better compatibility with other games.

[static jay]

just to be sure, the rtx breaks the cutscenes right?

[jade kayak]

For now yeah, but they've said it's fixable by marking the videos as UI texture, and it's going to be fixed in the mod releases eventually

[cobalt peak]

Is there any way I can disable/remove the new lightning from 0.3.7 and use the old one?

[earnest plinth]

Thank you. It still didnt work when I tried to follow your instructions, but then I started from the beginning again, copied over .trex from PortalRTX and then replaced the NvRemixBridge.exe inside the .trex folder with the one that comes with the 0.4.1 release and I also had to use the d3d9.dll from the 0.4.1. release, the one from PortalRTX did not work.

[dusty grove]

First put inside game folder .trex folder from portal rtx.
Then you put newest bridge inside game folder https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/bridge-remix/actions/workflows/build.yml
This way it will work

[spark wharf]

i had the same issue you need to use the US speed2.exe version or it will crash at load profile section.

[sour mulch]

Oh thanks I would not know it myself

[pseudo scaffold]

how to fix that?

reinstall does not helped 😦

[jade briar]

Look at the map. You clearly didn't follow the install instructions properly

[tender musk]

#1103377328530276403 message

it helped me

[spark wharf]

i tried to hide the black square behind the wheels of the 206 but it makes my wheels disappear. maybe i've done it wrong ...

also have tried to unlock region content, it works flawlessly.

[balmy chasm]

That's just 206 which has weird wheels.
Also I never thought that Remix can't be used on any version of the game

[fair crystal]

Nice to see the corsa and 106 raytraced

[pseudo scaffold]

where it located? in rtx menu in game or what i must to do?

[tender musk]

From game setting,no rtx menu

Is there a setting for FOG

[wintry fable]

it even works with addon cars

old screenshot

[pseudo scaffold]

Thanks it worked!

[zinc meteor]

We're having trouble reproducing the black box mirror bug. Could someone who gets it frequently upload instructions for how to get it to happen? Ideally including your rtx.conf, in-game settings, and where we can get whatever replacement assets you're using. (EDIT: also what GPU you're using and your driver version)

(Ideally yall should just post up a github issue with all that stuff when you start seeing bugs like this.)

@cloud crypt @vague sparrow since I saw you posting about this in general.

[vague sparrow]

@dusty grove this person might help you Mark, he's the one who noticed it

#general-remix message

[dusty grove]

Sorry for not reporting it on github, the other guy said that RR isn't part of current remix build (so it doesnt make sense to report it).

Here is my rtx.conf
Im using non default NFSU2 rtx mod - different roads (more wet - reflective), and cars paint have low roughness, thoose things may effect does bug going to appear. So here is my version, from game, if you didn't encounter BLACKBOX bug normal way through just rtx.conf. >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fNC24ptNczt_Or55odELT7yLB4fe0KGY/view?usp=sharing

How BLACKBOX bug appears? Usually it is pretty random, but one thing is for sure it happens after loading in to a race, few seconds pass and we have black boxes appear from car mirrors. (It can start from player car or other AI cars) 100% appearance i got from AIRPORT races, but it also does happen everywhere else.

Interestengly it didnt happen at all in NFSMW for example. (Where we have same low car paint roughness, but roads arent wet - reflective)

[zinc meteor]

Thanks! Do you mind sharing what graphics card, and driver version are you using?

[velvet rivet]

pibby corruption in nfsu2 😱

[dusty grove]

3080ti 551.76 - game ready driver

[velvet rivet]

did you try reinstalling the game and the mod? mess with the settings at all?

[zinc meteor]

If you can find anything that reliably fixes it (or makes it worse), would be happy to hear about it

[dusty grove]

In game settings

[dusty grove]

Fastest way, i load into quick race > drive few meters > restarted race > here we are

[dusty grove]

I mean its dlss thing, dlss is in .trex folder, so there is not much you can do. But I did try portal bridge, and github bridge, both had same bug.

[velvet rivet]

ah

[cloud crypt]

What i could guess is, that the mirror reflection acts like a "black hole". So instead that the rays get thrown back, they just get deleted

And because of the fact that informations are missing even more rays get dead ended

Until we have a complete black screen (takes about 20 minutes)

[jade briar]

I can't get it to happen

No matter how hard I try

RTX 4090
Game ready driver version 551.76

I'll update the drivers to see if it happens

Got a cool screenshot tho

Updated drivers

Still doesn't happen

[velvet rivet]

DLAA ray reconstruciton !?!?/!?

[jade briar]

yes

[velvet rivet]

I Guessed Correctly Omg I'm So Cool

[jade briar]

idk what ure on about

[velvet rivet]

I'm CORRECT

:3

[jade briar]

good job

[velvet rivet]

😵‍💫

[jade briar]

uhhh\

Rare screenshot of someone being civil on the internet

[velvet rivet]

"please do something completely different for a game that isn't even in thesame genre"

[jade briar]

lol

[vivid thicket]

yea, yea, its reshade

ofc its reshade

[vague sparrow]

That's me lol

[jade briar]

I found out later

[cobalt peak]

Can we have this as our new intro screen?

[cobalt peak]

But fr, is it just me or is his finger super long?

It kinda looks like he could put his finger on his chest and it would go all the way up to the end of his neck

[zinc meteor]

You mind testing a potential fix? This should replace the d3d9.dll in the .trex folder.
That should prevent the black box error from happening anymore - please report back on whether it actually works, and we'll get the fix merged in.

[vague sparrow]

do we trust in Mark?

[dusty grove]

Yeap it worked, i tried different scenarios to get bug, but it didn't appear! But the thing that did appear is constant game crashing during freeroam, looking from .logs it is not remix problem (interestingly i didn't have them before, so maybe this d3d9.dll is more demanding for lack of files mess)

UPD: ok it's even crashing in menu, absolutely randomly, like 30 seconds after game started(((

[cloud crypt]

Try to limit game to 1 cpu core in widescreenfix

It should fix the crashing

[zinc meteor]

Thanks for the update!

[dusty grove]

I did even redownload widescreenfix, to make sure i didn't mess up settings, but it's still crashing. I think only way i can fix that is to buy better hardware because this game really likes crashing in general. (While most wanted is stable, and crashing really rarely like once in 2-3 hours).
(My system is 5960x 4.4ghz 16gb2400cl15 3080ti - im just waiting for zen 5)

[velvet rivet]

anti-viruses are pissy about any DLL

kind of on Microsoft for not making a variant that has less access to the core system or something

[velvet rivet]

I started ignoring him

[spice aspen]

is there a way to get the reflection for the cars? sorry if it's mentioned before

[dusty grove]

Here #1103377328530276403 message

[spice aspen]

damn it worked, thank you so much

[velvet rivet]

The main branch of the project has it updated properly iirc but I don't know for sure

[dapper root]

Do we have a link?

[spice willow]

Hi Guys, my game has this trouble whenever I start a race:any fix for it?tnx in advance

[desert ridge]

The "rough_only.usda" file has not been uploaded to GitHub yet. This is the most recent version that includes all outdoor texture hashes, including all racetracks in Quick Race. However, some interior areas in Carrera mode are still not covered. I still need to finish the game to capture all the texture hashes

[lusty storm]

where do i paste this file?

[dusty grove]

#1103377328530276403 message

[tranquil snow]

17 fps with RTX 3070 and ryzen 7 3700x

with dlss on performance

[jade briar]

What resolution?

[tranquil snow]

5120x1440 🤣

[jade briar]

hmmmmmm

I wonder why

You got a 4k monitor for a card that can barely do 1440p these days

[tranquil snow]

You're trolling. The RTX 3070 does great on 1440p. All tho i could probably use a upgrade.

[jade briar]

I was talking about path tracing specifically

I had a 3070ti

Worked great at 1440p

But path tracing performance was pretty bad

[tranquil snow]

True. I wanna upgrade but i feel like i should upgrade my moba and cpu first.

[vague sparrow]

Lower your expectations lmao

Path tracing legit brings all these cards down to their knees

Unless you have a 40 series card with frame gen on

[velvet rivet]

moreso the overhead of Remix specifically, I get fine performance on natively path traced games

30-70 fps on high-ish settings depending on the action

[vague sparrow]

1080p?

Resolution and upscaling quality matters

[spice aspen]

is this rough differnt than the post that you've posted before?

[desert ridge]

Yes, there is a difference. The new version covers more area.

[velvet rivet]

yeah forgot to say that too

I don't plan on going any higher but most of the high end monitors that fit my future needs are 1440p so when I have the money in the next few years it'll be a little harder on the card lol

if anyone here's a monitor nut that can give me a specific recommendation I'll post my needs

[balmy chasm]

Some Nissan labels got huge updates accidentally

[jade briar]

Auto is a monitor nut

[velvet rivet]

@ auto Give Me The Best Monitor Ever Free Quote

[robust swift]

could i get some help setting up my xbox controller

[velvet rivet]

I thought widescreenfix has xinput support as well but there's this if you can't get that working https://github.com/xan1242/NFSU-XtendedInput

[robust swift]

thankyou!!!

[spice willow]

Is there a way to make Archie's custom hud mod compatible with rtx ReMix?

[desert ridge]

If you are using another UI mod, you may need to manually mark the UI texture in Remix.

[spice willow]

How, Mate?

[velvet rivet]

open the developer menu and manually mark texture hashes as UI https://youtu.be/TlbxX7Ve3Kk?t=173

[desert ridge]

Alt + X toggle remix menu > Game setup Tab > Step 1: Categorize Textures > Search for the UI texture, select the UI texture, Mark the texture as UI texture.

[spice willow]

Thnx

[cloud crypt]

@zinc meteor Hey Mark, i tried a bit around for the Mirror-Bug
It mainly seems to be a problem with the volumetric lighting. When i set the Transmittance Measurement Distance to 0 and then to a different value higher than 0 it is easy to reprodue. Works everytime i do it

[severe solstice]

[zinc meteor]

Is this using the updated DLL I shared 4 days ago?

#1103377328530276403 message

The black bug you're seeing is a NaN getting into a temporal cache and slowly spreading over time. (each frame a pixel consults its neighbors, and if any of the neighbors are NaN then that pixel becomes a NaN). The DLL I shared should have fixed that case of it, but it's possible there are others

[cloud crypt]

oh, no i didnt tried it

but i will now

ah yeah, it fixed it XD

[zinc meteor]

thanks for both the report and the test 🙂

[lavish kettle]

How to install remix have any instructions

[tawny elk]

Check pins

[lavish kettle]

?

[desert ridge]

[lavish kettle]

Link on git hub ?

[desert ridge]

Okay, the upper one (mobdb) is the stable release build, while the one on GitHub is the most recent WIP build.

[lavish kettle]

sry my English is not so good ^-^

[desert ridge]

No problem, my English is translated by ChatGPT.😜

[lavish kettle]

For start mode need NFS Underground 2 game?

[desert ridge]

Yes, of course. But please don't asking how to get the game here.

[lavish kettle]

Lol i try to start by doble click in mode folder 🤣

[cloud crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-bart-meh-so-what-yeah-whatever-not-listening-gif-13968914599378343858

[lavish kettle]

Friends, please help me, I can’t find a link to the installation instructions. 2 hours looking and can't 😦

[surreal ruin]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/need-for-speed-underground-2-remix/downloads/underground-2-remix-03

It's right there on the Moddb*?

[ember river]

The very first pinned message bro, #1103377328530276403 message dl the rar un unpack in the game folder and play

[lavish kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/im-an-idiot-elmo-shrugs-gif-6160087

🤣

[surreal ruin]

What GPU do you have?

[lavish kettle]

1080ti

[surreal ruin]

Won't work

You need an RTX card to run remix

Or a card capable of hardware RT at least

The 1080 isn't

[jade briar]

That's 2 hours down the drain

[cloud crypt]

XD

https://tenor.com/view/pam-and-tommy-rand-gauthier-you-did-this-to-yourself-you-have-done-that-yourself-seth-rogen-gif-26072236

[fair crystal]

Really? Didnt nvidia unlock rt for these cards just so it would run like crap to make the 2060 look awesome?

[vague sparrow]

that was for Quake 2 RTX with special DXR feature that allowed you to experience RT as a powerpoint slideshow

[lavish kettle]

😦 Damn 4 hours in the wind

[velvet rivet]

The 1080 Ti is a great classic card, but I'd definitely recommend an upgrade in the future, try to find used cards that give you better (overall) performance than your current one to make the upgrade feel worth it, or if you prefer buying new I'd wait for the 50 series to drop or for 40 to get a price drop

[lavish kettle]

No money 😔 no honey 😅😅😅😁😁😁

[velvet rivet]

Relatable I haven't been able to work much in months

[lavish kettle]

Mate i disabled person 1-st group Partially paralyzed and numb overnight. My pension is $250 per month. The card costs $2539.75 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4090 GAMING OC 😦

[velvet rivet]

I geddit

[vague sparrow]

oh, sorry to hear that 😔

[lavish kettle]

All ok 🙂 No problem mates 🙂

[neat hemlock]

dxvk

[jade briar]

true

[neat hemlock]

Bro

I was searching

Ig I typed in here

Lmao

[jade briar]

Uh

Okay

[lofty arrow]

help me ? RTX 4060... Then the game opens, another thing I noticed is that when I pass a location I feel like the lights go out

[velvet rivet]

Look for the official v1.2 patcher

[lofty arrow]

this process works for NFS2?
#remix-beginners-guide message

[languid light]

I think it also "worked" in other games

[vagrant cove]

yep tried it too but doesnt work

[cloud crypt]

you need hoodlum exe, god damn

this is my own modfied one (modified with CFF Explorer)

hopefully you have a clean legit copy of the game

[vagrant cove]

say theoretically someone doesnt. would it still work?

[cloud crypt]

maybe, cant guarantee
we dont support piratery

but you can tell me if it works

[vagrant cove]

ayeee it works (I assume the low fps is normal) good looks man

[jade briar]

no piratery

piratery is bad

[vagrant cove]

no pirates here unc dw

[vague sparrow]

[jade briar]

ok.

[vagrant cove]

anyone else getting this weird platform on medium and low settings?

[cloud crypt]

its because shadows arent set to ignore in RTX conf, try this one:
just copy in game folder and replace existing one

[jade briar]

no

[jade briar]

You're using ray reconstruction

Right?

[desert ridge]

It's likely just a shadow that needs to be ignore in the remix menu. Or use just HellRaven_EXP's conf file.

[cloud crypt]

the conf file is basically just the one we use with the exception that i have set all car shadows to ignore since i had the same problem, so yes

[jade briar]

I know

But that's not the problem there

It also messes up if you have neons

It's a bug in the rr build of remix

[cloud crypt]

didnt encountered it yet

[ember river]

Think it is that issue with stocastic alpha blend being off that burrito mentioned.
In remix menu, Alt+X:
Rendering tab > Alpha Blending > Stocastic Alpha blending

[cobalt peak]

What GPU do you use?

4090 Ti?

[jade briar]

Let me know if you find a 4090ti

[cobalt peak]

Had one but my cats pissed it to death

🐈 🫗 +💻 = 🔥 🎆

[jade briar]

Damn

[cobalt peak]

Yes it blew up

[jade briar]

Bro got the beta version of the 4090ti and got it killed

[cobalt peak]

lOL

[cobalt peak]

Ah good to know ty

[jade briar]

The joke was that there's no 4090ti

Just 4090

[desert ridge]

59Hz🤔

[vague sparrow]

Its like having a good car with stock wheels

[spark moon]

https://tenor.com/view/voldemor-harrypotter-mechant-sorcier-magie-noir-gif-12511046

[cloud crypt]

thats my rig

also could go nuts

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-christian-bale-patrick-bateman-american-psycho-good-gif-18161424

[velvet rivet]

Go to Nvidia control panel and fix ur refresh rate that monitor can't actually be 59

[jade briar]

It literally is

[velvet rivet]

No wonder u say frame rate in remix without upscaling is fine smh

[jade briar]

Yeah god never intended framerate to go above 59.9

[wicked talon]

Hello guys 👋 im new to this i already downloaded remix from moddb but im looking at this files and see that they are modified 3 weeks ago. Do i need to download all this and put in my game dictionary or not? 🤔

[tawny elk]

Nope

[wicked talon]

And how about thouse 2? I wanted to follow video tutorial but some how couldnt download exact same files as shown in video just saw bunch of files like this. Do i need them or its just for people who is modding it further then just playing?

Or that remix 3.0 from moddb is all included and i dont need any other of things at all? Sorry little bit confused first time using git 😅

[jade briar]

Wait I gotchu

[jade briar]

There you go

[wicked talon]

Thnx 😊 if there will be some huge changes or updates u guys will update moddb file? 🤔

[jade briar]

Of course

[cobalt peak]

What GPU would Patrick Bateman use if he was still alive in 2024?

A 2080 Ti or a 4060 Super?

[vague sparrow]

4080 super

[severe solstice]

1050 ti

[vivid thicket]

gt 1030

[jade briar]

gt 630

[fair crystal]

Celeron 420 paired with two g210 in SLI

[slender arch]

voodoo spectre 3000

[vivid thicket]

integrated graphics

[tall pilot]

Hi

I think my NFS is messed up, I'm getting super low fps with the RTX Remix mod and some HUD icons are messed up too

I have an i7 12700H and a RTX 3060 6GB

[jade briar]

Icons messed up in what way?

[tall pilot]

The rear view mirror is wrong, there's a big square under my car, and the map somehow got fixed, but last time it was just a squre

also the FPS

also Idk if it's supposed to be like this, but the cars have absolutely no reflections... even the original game has them. Is this right?

and all neon are white definitely messed up

I have some old reshade junk in the files. I'm uninstalling it to see if it gets fixed, but I personally think it's unrelated

[jade briar]

Me when I don't read the description

The rear view doesn't work. It's a technical limitation

[tall pilot]

so i should turn it off?

that's fine

[jade briar]

sure

[tall pilot]

wdym

[tall pilot]

Oh

Okay

sure

[jade briar]

Your map was square because you didn't set your in-game graphics properly

I have a feeling you didn't read the instructions

[tall pilot]

I really didn't 💀

[jade briar]

Well there you go

[tall pilot]

Are those the settings I'm supposed to use?

[jade briar]

Try reading the instructions

[tall pilot]

eh

okay

thanks

[tall pilot]

where are they 💀

[jade briar]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/need-for-speed-underground-2-remix/downloads/underground-2-remix-03

[tall pilot]

alrighty

thanks lol

[tall pilot]

I just followed a installation guide on YT, didn't know about this stuff lol

one last thing 🙏 What should I do when this pops up? Just hit cancel?

[jade briar]

I mean

You can try updating it

But idk how many things it'll break

[tall pilot]

widescreenfix breaks

[jade briar]

Fuck around and find out

[tall pilot]

goes back to normal

[jade briar]

hm

Now we know

[tall pilot]

good

also 💀 i still have this weird blurred thing around my car and no brake lights. Ever seen this?

not really the brake lights... just the red light that stays on

[tall pilot]

absolute legend

thanks!

[trail quail]

We are guessing in the release version they were using that plane as a simple way of faking a car shadow and helping ground the vehicle.

Also kudos burrito to helping show how to remove it

[tall pilot]

that's how they used to do back then

this project is gonna be a masterpiece when finished

[trail quail]

I am modelling some brake kits atm. I wanna try my hand at it. Could be used for nfs if I can figure out how to export them

Can't really open omniverse atm until I get back onto my desktop (laptop does not have rtx gpu)

[jade briar]

yes

[ember cobalt]

perfect 40k with 200 reactions

[wintry fable]

there's rtx with only 6gb?? i thought that 8gb is smallest. my old gtx had 6gb vram 😭

[jade briar]

god damn

[ember cobalt]

the RTX 2050 mobile has only 4 GB VRAM

[tall pilot]

yeah... laptop version

wish I could upgrade it, 6GB is pretty hard for demanding games

[vague sparrow]

How is your download file structed honestly

Create a "DON'T FUCKING IGNORE ME. txt" right next to a folder with all the mod files

[fair prawn]

I have 3060m 140w and it is not enough for nfs u2 remix

I am playing at 540p and 30fps locked with full resolution dlss

It is more stable than unlocked fps btw

[fringe geyser]

this mod is truly something special

runs fantastic on a 4070 super

[vague sparrow]

pls don'trape me Mr.Cat

[prime rose]

Distasteful AF....

jokes for 13-y-os

[vague sparrow]

😔 aw shucks

😥

[fringe geyser]

I mean, the sticker is literally called "rape cat"

[prime rose]

well yeah, so I'm saying it's distasteful AF

what mentally healthy adult individual would even call it that...

so it's either a childish joke, or one made by someone who is not well-adjusted. I'm hoping it's a child who doesn't know any better...

🤷‍♂️

[dusty grove]

Bro fix your car reflections #1103377328530276403 message

[valid geyser]

FUCK YOU

unremixes your RTX

[vague sparrow]

This looks good

[timid prairie]

Hmmmmm, Xbox version as i might guess?

[hexed seal]

lmao what a pussy

[prime rose]

@hexed seal must you advertise that you're a kid with the IQ of a mayo jar..?

[surreal ruin]

Alright could ya'll stop right now? If you don't have anything worthwhile to add to the thread, just shut up. Thanks

[ember cobalt]

considering how infrequently this thread is updated, unfortunately it's not surprising that it's devolved to this

but yeah, please knock it off. tired of the constant trolling

[fringe geyser]

holy shit, thank you

[jade briar]

Idk it's a Korean culture meme so my Korean friend added it to the server. I just post it because it looks funny.

Oh wait

The mods already cleaned up

I didn't see that

[prime rose]

cleaned what up, was there more trolling?

[earnest plinth]

I also have a 4070 super and I would not call the performance "fantastic". What settings are you running at and what is your FPS?

[fringe geyser]

dlss balanced 1440p

with framegen

constant 60 fps

[velvet rivet]

look dude I agree with your point of view but you're droning on it for too long nobody listens to a correct meanie

[surreal ruin]

Stoooooooooop

The both of you

[velvet rivet]

you're telling me to stop telling someone to stop...

[surreal ruin]

Yes I am

Just drop it

Move on

[velvet rivet]

you drop it too then

[surreal ruin]

🫡

[velvet rivet]

sounds decent, what's perf without frame gen?

[jade briar]

Traggey try not to armchair moderate challenge (hard)

[surreal ruin]

We shouldn't have to bring in the mods to clean up and tell people to behave every five seconds in this thread, if people want to beef it out take it to DM's or something.

I don't know what it is with this thread in specific but people just be ragin' in here

[velvet rivet]

that's literally their job they wouldn't be moderators if they didn't want to keep the members in check

[surreal ruin]

Right, that doesn't mean we as users need to actively make their lives harder 🙂

[velvet rivet]

I don't know what exactly you're trying to convey, but minimodding to that extent does not help or make anything easier

[surreal ruin]

It's a thread for the project our group is working on, you'll have to excuse me if I want this place to stay clean. The thread is already messy enough as it is.

I'm not being a moderator, I'm just telling you to take that stuff elsewhere

[jade briar]

No updates about the mod probably

I'll go grab some stuff that hasn't be posted

Kee p em fed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165374943991709813/1222391829991915530/image.png?ex=66160c1b&is=6603971b&hm=996e6a700ce1d098bf57b1b53115db829c9f51a71ae078bb5d75c4e7faa2207f&

[surreal ruin]

Such a shame it has to be that way X)

[jade briar]

Now no one talk in here for at least 3 weeks

[surreal ruin]

Yeah we're turning the mod into toy story now btw

[fair crystal]

"Snoop dog feat. Randy Newman - You've got a friend on the storm" starts playing

[earnest plinth]

I see, I play at 4k dlss performance which is 1080p internal compared to your 835p. It does not run great at 4k with dlss performance, but with ultra performance (720p internal) it runs fine, but isnt sharp obviously

[vague sparrow]

Bro got bootleg ug2 rtx remix on itch.io

[jade briar]

main menu remake

[cloud crypt]

when all the meshes are done (which currently adam is working on) i will redo the lighting again
for everyone who wants the garage to currently look like this:

i will provide the file in 30 minutes or 1 hour
so here is at least 1 update:

!make backup first to be sure your files are safe if something goes wrong!
put the folders and mod file here: \Need for Speed Underground 2\rtx-remix\mods\Underground 2 Remix\Old merge
if it ask if you want to replace say yes (copy and replace)

[tawny elk]

You don’t wanna see what the rest of my [remix] dev variant game looks like.

Eman calls it “hot wheels”

[fringe geyser]

Yeah there is a slight amount of lacking in the fine details, but otherwise it runs pretty good aside from the occasional area that drops the fps by a bit

[fringe geyser]

anywhere from 40 to 60 depending on the area

[velvet rivet]

considering it's still the latest generation that doesn't sound great

[fringe geyser]

it is what it is to be honest, RTX remix has a long way to go, and realtime pathtraced lighting in games is a recent thing.

rasterization has been the standard for decades, hopefully as the standard shifts over to pathtracing we'll see more optimization

considering all that, 40-60 fps is more than acceptable for me.

I played the game in 2006 at 30 fps anyway as a wee lad

using this big ol thing

[velvet rivet]

those gates on top of the plexiglass go hard lol

I think my current case is bigger than that

[fringe geyser]

they really don't style em like they used to honestly

here's the inside lol

[jade briar]

Computer users looking for every excuse to post photos of their computers:

[fringe geyser]

ya got me

[velvet rivet]

crazy ass PSU too

I wanna get one custom painted like that now

[desert ridge]

Don't you know the NFSU2 channel serves as a secondary "general talk" channel?

Just kidding. Please don't hit me.😆

[jade briar]

Nah it is just that

[ember cobalt]

this server has 13k members. if you could kindly keep yourself in check, it reduces the workload

[pale river]

after installing the .exe wouldnt launch

i think i did it right

or am i just being really stupid

[dusty grove]

Game shouldn't be on Program files, try all over again, install clean game install widescreenfix, and try to run it to see if fame starts at all, then try rtx remix mod install.