NFSU2 (Need For Speed Underground 2)

[surreal ruin]

There's a reason why the cars in the mod look the way they do right now

[zinc raven]

I see I thought maybe its for performance reasons

[surreal ruin]

Every single time you paint or add a vinyl to the car it generates a new texture for the car

[zinc raven]

but technology improving this much is great nonetheless!

[surreal ruin]

Which means the material gets a new hash

[zinc raven]

oh...

[surreal ruin]

Whiiiich means we can't edit it outside the game 😛

[zinc raven]

that explains why I couldnt modify the model in game but kinda can in main menu

but then all shadows break and lights turn into giant squares

[surreal ruin]

Yeah trust me, making the cars look good was the first thing people tried to do

We just kinda can't atm ^^

[jade briar]

[marble creek]

Playability is the degree of readiness to enter the market. Yes, the vast majority of mods will be free, but this does not cancel the fact that the final quality should be no worse than that offered by the same portal rtx. But at least for me the bar is so - to be no worse than lightspeed studios and all the other aaa studios. Otherwise what's the point? Regarding the playability of silent hill- if you have no bugs at all, and especially no problems with culling- it's really extremely cool.

[surreal ruin]

Nah, that ain't how that works son. Playability has nothing to do with how completed the mod is. It's merely a term that relays if a game can be played from a to b without interruption.

[jade briar]

@vague sparrow Are you a modderator for moddb yet?

[vague sparrow]

not yet

they did ask me for a username though

haven't got a reply yet

[jade briar]

I don't know how to use the damn site

I wanna release the mod update

[vague sparrow]

hmm

[jade briar]

It's so confusing

[vague sparrow]

i did use it to download mods back in 2011

but only for that

not much else

[jade briar]

youtube tutorial my beloved

[vague sparrow]

you wanna post a mod on that?

[jade briar]

eys

[vague sparrow]

ah

youtube it is

godspeed Burrito

kinda funny there's just one mod for RTX remix for now

[balmy chasm]

Half-Life guys posted things few hrs in .-.

[jade briar]

What

[vague sparrow]

how do you know this

[balmy chasm]

Have they not?

[vague sparrow]

i have not heard anything about a post being released

[balmy chasm]

I've probably mistook a thing

[slow badge]

You guys are awesome this is what gaming is about

[surreal ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/pod-racing-pod-race-anakin-star-wars-gif-14869284

[jade briar]

Some screenshots that I took for the moddb page

[vague sparrow]

why does it say Early Access Jan 30

is it releasing today?

[surreal ruin]

We're just uploading a new test version

[jade briar]

I don't even know

[surreal ruin]

Not "Releasing" per se, just more of what we've done already

[jade briar]

Moddb confuses the shit out of me

[surreal ruin]

True

[jade briar]

I don't even know how to edit the page

Been looking for an edit button for like 15 minutes

[surreal ruin]

Might need to get everything approved by moderation before you can edit?

Idk

@tulip grove Halp

[jade briar]

I fucking found it

jesus

[surreal ruin]

Nice

[jade briar]

you

[vague sparrow]

😋

[timber jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzaqz19E68Y

[balmy chasm]

THERE! THERE! My replacement!

[vague sparrow]

Here

[balmy chasm]

I wonder how many 4090s they ran it on to get 4k 60fps

[vague sparrow]

I know they didn't use burrito's 4090 footage cuz his driving sucks

[sly nest]

Just one, baby

[balmy chasm]

Miracle

[sly nest]

My trusty old ASUS RTX 4090 ROG Strix 24GB

[balmy chasm]

Also sadge you haven't shown up lobbies 🥲

[desert ridge]

YEAH! YEAH! YEAH! My decal and glass replacement!

Why the car's body no reflection? @jade briar

[jade briar]

idk you tell me

Oh yeah

That's because you can't make the car bodies reflective

Have you forgotten? The game bakes a unique texture for every single car and it keeps changing when you edit the car

soooooo

[deft glen]

Would this work?

[desert ridge]

Alternatively, we could apply a global material with a reflective material. Since we have replaced many textures, only a few of them might look odd.

[jade briar]

We only have replaced a few

[vague sparrow]

There's just too many combinations, we also have vinyls which are also baked in as a new texture

[desert ridge]

I mean the highly "visible" textures in the scene.

[vague sparrow]

afaik every time you change something on the car it creates a new hash resulting in material properties to reset

and thus look matte

[jade briar]

yes

[surreal ruin]

Honestly we should just do the shell solution

[vague sparrow]

but if it resets to matte can't we change it to reset to reflective?

[surreal ruin]

Demands mesh replacement but we can do that

[desert ridge]

If the texture hash is changed, the mesh hash will also change.

[deft glen]

Not if it's a global material

Every new reset will have the same material properties

But it would make overriding everything else quite a process

Since all non replaced/non overriden assets will be as reflective as the car

[vague sparrow]

Hmm. But then changing everything back to proper material would eliminate the issue no? It's a one time thing as well if we set global material as reflective and then change the new assets as per their material type

Idk I'm just yappin'

[desert ridge]

Here is my previous approach, but to avoid weird reflective surfaces, we need to capture/download the whole scene texture.
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[surreal ruin]

Oh fuck...

Does this mean we can't do new car meshes?

I was hoping to put my ae86 in

[vague sparrow]

Would this allow us to change color without worrying about the car turning matte finish?

[desert ridge]

Only Rachel's car, the boss's car, and the traffic cars.

[surreal ruin]

Aaaah that suuuucks

[vague sparrow]

it does indeed... suck

[desert ridge]

Yes, but you still need to capture the scene. I haven't tested whether it is necessary to capture the scene for it to work with remix 0.4.0.

[vague sparrow]

you know what they say

https://tenor.com/view/find-out-gif-27502543

[ember river]

We have an issue from long long while ago on remix github that would fix all that elegantly without having to rely on tricks or mass replacements, or sharing original game textures just as glossy replacements and such, but it is so custom to our project that it doesn't gets prioritized atm
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/215

[vague sparrow]

So it's like a bypass?

The new generated texture is being forwarded directly without the requirement of having a hash govern over what material it should be (i.e matte)

[ember river]

Yup. Instead, we create and assign new materials, like mat_SupraHood, and just don't assign any albedo texture to it, so the runtime understands that we want it to forward whatever the original draw call had as texture to that slot

Then we could use base game mods to upscale the textures rather than doing through remix

[vague sparrow]

Hopefully Carbon fiber materials look correct

On customizable cars

[jade briar]

Alright everyone. Version 0.3 has been released.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/need-for-speed-underground-2-remix/downloads/underground-2-remix-03

@ember cobalt Embed this please

And maybe remove other old embeds

[ember cobalt]

pins you mean?

just to preserve it, here's the old pins:
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[jade briar]

Thank you

[timid prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/keung-to-chinese-actor-handsome-huh-what-gif-16220262

ITS MY FACKING LOGO IN THERE

[jade briar]

Yes

[valid geyser]

the comments 😭

[tawny elk]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-inc-mike-wazowski-i-was-on-tv-tv-gif-22295677

[zinc meteor]

Watching Jesse's IGN video, and I realized the arrow floating above the car was being reflected in the back windshield 😆

I'd totally respect it if yall actually want that to happen, but you can probably mark it as worldspace UI if you want that arrow to not show up as part of the raytraced world.

[ember river]

World space UI is rasterized on top of the RT output?
The arrow reflecting like that is quite charming, right?

[zinc meteor]

yeah, world space UI gets rasterized, without forcing the draw calls that come after it to also be rasterized.

I was scratching my head wondering if there was a neon building behind the car or something, until I realized it was the guide arrow and laughed. I don't think there's any problem with having it like that, but I could see people complaining about it

just wanted to point out the option of world space UI for that

[ember river]

I wonder how they got away with that, iirc, there was a pattent from Crazy Taxi prohibiting any other game from using navigation systems based on pointing arrows like that which was lifted just a few years ago 👀

[zealous glacier]

hello guys , game crash the moment i press start after loading complete , any fix?

[deft glen]

did you follow the pinned instructions?

[zealous glacier]

yeah , im here from github and video

[deft glen]

wait that's actually pretty rare lol

[zealous glacier]

x)

[deft glen]

well anyone working on NFS have any possible ideas? I'm just here to check progress from time to time

[zealous glacier]

at first i was thinking about my 21:9 monitor and installed widescreen fix , everything else is installed already buit no lucvk

[deft glen]

widescreen? is it a mod?

[zealous glacier]

yeah

[deft glen]

if it's DLL based you might need ASI loader

[deft glen]

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maybe check this out. Just an idea

[desert ridge]

Hey guys, I've finally created a new version of the "rough_only" usda file that is compatible with remix 0.4.0.
⭐ This version doesn't require any captured textures.⭐
Installation :

• 1. Place the "rough_only.usda" file in the same folder as the "mod_old.usda" file, which is located at "NFSU2 folder\rtx-remix\Underground 2 Remix\Old merge".
• 2. Add the line "@./rough_only.usda@" to the "mod_old.usda" file, as shown in the picture below.
• 3. In the remix menu, adjust the Legacy Material Parameter: set "roughness" to 0.0 - 0.1 and "metallic" to 0.2 - 0.4, as depicted in the picture below.

This will make the car bodies reflective, while the rest of the scene without PBR texture replacement will remain matte.

Most Recent "rough_only.usda" :
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[deft glen]

how in the hell did you do that

[desert ridge]

If I were to tell you that I manually edited around 18XX texture hashes one by one, would you trust me?😜

With Remix 0.4.0, you can edit specific material parameters without needing to load the albedo texture from your hard drive. It can load the albedo texture from memory, which was not possible in previous versions.

[deft glen]

I was aware of this but

[deft glen]

well this is probably quite helpful lol

[desert ridge]

Just kidding! Of course, I used a Python script to generate the usda file.

[deft glen]

ok that sounds a little more sane

still takes work to do it though so kudos

[desert ridge]

The result is definitely worth the effort, and I'm happy that remix 0.4.0 made it possible. Thank you to the remix dev team for doing such a great job!

[deft glen]

[vague sparrow]

This is amazing

[jade briar]

Perfect. Been wanting to get rid of it myself but didn't really know how to.

Get rid of it in the reflection I mean

[jade briar]

Wait what video

[sly nest]

Honestly, I love the arrow being reflected on the car

[valid geyser]

ngl i'd really like if the arrow was a part of the world, i think it reflecting in the car is a cool effect 😄

but ofc y'all do what y'all wanna do

shit's looking really good, keep up the great work ❤️‍🔥

[pearl matrix]

Is this normal?

lights change as i drive

randomly gets dark

its like theres really short draw distance for lights

[jade briar]

Are you on the latest version?

[vague sparrow]

did you download from modDB?

[pearl matrix]

yeah

i just installed the latest

followed the guide and the settings

[jade briar]

Yeah there can be some pop in

You can go to remix settings>rendering>anti culling lights

And turn that on

It should stop lights from disappearing behind you

[pearl matrix]

that fixed it

[pearl matrix]

it still seems like theres some kind of short draw distance

like the traffic cars light from headlights pop in

and the street lights as you reach them

any way to increase that distance?

[jade briar]

Unless you figure out to increase the draw distance by modding the game, not really

[balmy chasm]

240SX lights set done. Now, while Hemry is busy with last starter car, I will start to ingest these lights slowly.
does not represent in-game look

[jade briar]

beautiful

[desert ridge]

Next Next Next gen ready headlight/taillight😍

[balmy whale]

(NFSU2) ARC_BUILD_134
133 W Pender St, Vancouver, BC V6B 1S5, Canada
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.281344,-123.1088704,3a,90y,25.75h,114.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1ssRJRiyA44yzcoS2yw5N8Mw!2e0!5s20150501T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu

if you want to recreate the buldings properly

(NFSU2) ARC_BUILDOLDTOWN13_A_SA
54 Alexander St, Vancouver, BC V6A 1B8, Canada
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2836775,-123.1027919,3a,52.8y,186.53h,102.63t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sG6iBWJ6mziPTFFX6f8R3gQ!2e0!5s20090401T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu

(NFSU2) ARC_BUILDOLDTOWN9_A_SA
157 Alexander St, Vancouver, BC V6A 1B8, Canada
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2840866,-123.1002828,3a,55.4y,359.09h,99.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shIVnRdkDMfFxgfthyF9XEQ!2e0!5s20090401T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu

[balmy chasm]

If you have lots of them, you better make a document

[blazing bone]

^

[balmy whale]

i have a few more

not much

(NFSU2) ARC_BUILDOLDTOWN11_A_SA
81 W Pender St, Vancouver, BC V6B 1R3, Canada
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2809403,-123.1070489,3a,59.5y,16.08h,110t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sjJ3tVvN9NDQTJttc0lgB7w!2e0!5s20110801T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu

[jade briar]

Does anyone know what the huge glass arch thing that goes around the highway is

[tawny elk]

Near the stadium?

It’s a pedestrian bridge

[jade briar]

I think

Yeah but surely It's based on something irl

[balmy whale]

(NFSU2) ARC_BUILDOLDTOWN14_A_SA
31 West Pender Street, Vancouver, British Columbia, V6B, Canada
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2807779,-123.106115,3a,46.2y,3.32h,101.25t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHsCADhf5tZPVq3Kuw--QUw!2e0!5s20090401T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu

[jade briar]

The design is too unique to come from early blackbox devs

[balmy whale]

can you send me a pic?

[tawny elk]

Prob something in LA or Vancouver.

[jade briar]

https://youtu.be/Oq_ECDk-y8U?t=100

This

[balmy whale]

thanks

[tawny elk]

Reverse geoguesser

[jade briar]

literally

[vague sparrow]

@balmy whale how do you know all this

[jade briar]

doxxing

[balmy chasm]

Is it casino?

[balmy whale]

im seahrcing for black box era texture sources, but these were found by others

[vague sparrow]

im interested in how you found them

this is great

now we need a voluteer in Canada to get new pictures for us

or wait

google maps already has them

@jade briar do you have a 3d modeler in your team that does building architectures? google map references are a great startup

[jade briar]

Hemry, probably

We aren't really organized

[balmy chasm]

Does Adam model anything?

[tawny elk]

I do building architecture quite well

[desert ridge]

We have many 3D modellers in our team

[tawny elk]

One of the few things I can model well

[balmy chasm]

So yeah... Me, Adam and Hemry can do buildings

[desert ridge]

I specialize in interior modeling and 3D rendering for freelance projects.

[vague sparrow]

amazing

i guess it all boils down to time and effort

[tawny elk]

Revit makes quick work of modeling buildings

[vague sparrow]

using enterprise level software to make a free mod boggles my mind 😵‍💫

[balmy chasm]

hehe

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/boi-aint-no-way-boi-gif-22591242

[tawny elk]

Gotta use the tools ya know

[tawny elk]

If you buy enough licenses from them you get a deal I think.

[vague sparrow]

not buying allat

[tawny elk]

You need 3dsmax to get it to export nicely as well since the integrated obj exporter is trash.

[vague sparrow]

what's the benefit of this software when we only need the exterior design, interior can be used to make fake rooms for illumination only

[tawny elk]

I can model it fast and parametrically. As long as it’s not some Frank Gehry thing

[vague sparrow]

like this?

looks pretty intricate

[balmy chasm]

Those pavements makes sense to add in Blender/3dsMax/Maya

[balmy whale]

(NFSU2) ARC_BUILDOLDTOWN12_A_SA
560 Beatty St, Vancouver, BC V6B 2L3, Canada
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2803018,-123.1098683,3a,71.9y,128.5h,107.33t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sakKg2GOxkDd_9ivzENj3PQ!2e0!5s20110901T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu

(NFSU2) ARC_BUILDOLDTOWN16_A_SA
564 Beatty St #800, Vancouver, BC V6B 2L3, Canada
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.280245,-123.1099504,3a,75y,139.77h,105.2t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s8QzE0WkRw7LC6BlNSfLlHw!2e0!5s20110901T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu

[vague sparrow]

@balmy whale can you compile it into google docs if possible?

[tawny elk]

The little ornamental bits are kinda annoying to do but that’s about it. Very quick to do.

[tawny elk]

I ain’t modeling that

[balmy chasm]

But where?

[vague sparrow]

do we need to?

[balmy whale]

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_équestre_d'Henri_IV

[ember river]

*nobody
*horse models in chess sets

[balmy whale]

its very famous, probably already made by someone

[desert ridge]

Shit, I haven't attempted to model this level of detail before.

[vague sparrow]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/equestrian-statue-of-henry-iv-paris-c7285e3efb0941519a29a5070172810e

[ember river]

its more of an sculpting job, really. Though they most likely made a "project from view" uv mapping, mirrored and joined the statue both sides like a chocolate Easter egg and called it the day

[desert ridge]

So, who want to model the horse?😏

[vague sparrow]

someone already made it

but it's paid

😧

[balmy chasm]

That's too much details

[ember river]

pretty nice scan. Don't think we can have that even after paying

Horse is protected against distribution in USD format, 3d printing and rule 34

[vague sparrow]

why porn

[ember river]

idk tbh, I'd ask the ppl that join the server just to post only fans discord servers and links

[vague sparrow]

this horse will be featured in back door sluts 10

[jade briar]

https://youtu.be/YncZtLaZ6kQ

[ember river]

weta is peak

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/rdr2-red-dead-redemption2-horses-horse-video-games-gif-17839101

[jade briar]

i HAVE USED THIS SOFTWARE

Very complicated but very fun

[tawny elk]

Which software?

[zinc meteor]

Yeah, like I said I can definitely see the case for both keeping the reflection and for removing it - I'm just wanting to make sure the people working on it know that they have the ability to do it either way.

[jade briar]

It's ziva dynamics. A plugin for maya

[vague sparrow]

too bad finite element method didn't take off

that horse animation looks so gorgeous

[upper hill]

same problem

I think it depends on the language

[ripe kestrel]

for the need for speed underground 2 RTX installation I've downloaded the file but was wondering is there any other part i need to download to install the game

[surreal ruin]

I can sculpt statues, no problem

[ember cobalt]

you need to own the game

[ripe kestrel]

okay

[ripe kestrel]

will need to try and find a copy

[frigid perch]

Game crashes on profile selection after installing the mod with all instructions on clean NFSU2 EU 1.2
RTX 3070

Wondering where the crash logs would be located to examine what's wrong 🤔

[balmy chasm]

Does it crash or freeze?

[frigid perch]

crashes

with both regular launch and launch with admin rights

right after selecting the profile

[severe solstice]

[trail quail]

i wish there is a copy paste installation to base game

[jade briar]

It is

[trail quail]

even with perquisite that are not rtx remix related ?

that would be dope

[desert ridge]

I wish Uncle Burrito will buy me a fully set up PC with the most high-end RTX Remix ready hardware configuration.

[jade briar]

Look at the turotial video

[jade briar]

I wish I had money

[desert ridge]

You have

[jade briar]

no

[trail quail]

amazing

[tawny elk]

I wish Uncle burrito could hire me full time to work on this with all the money he has.

[desert ridge]

You have 4090, which many people don't have. In comparison, there are people in some countries who struggle to afford even basic necessities like food to feed themselves. So you are very rich guy.

[jade briar]

I got money. I bought a 4090 with all the money. Now I have no money.

Simple

[desert ridge]

I have quit my job and I'm waiting for Uncle Burrito to hire me, so please don't compete for the position with me.😜

[tawny elk]

I’ll get hired as a consultant

[deft glen]

It's true you can't get a 4090 if you're poor, but you don't have to be rich to get one either. If PC hardware is your main hobby, it's actually cheaper to buy a suped up PC than it is to get into many other hobbies

Its also true people in some other countries can't afford necessities, but the people who have 4090s don't live in those countries. We still have financial burdens that are real even if we can get by in the end well enough. We can only go off of relativity to our own expected living conditions, otherwise there's always someone who has it worse

Just throwing my 2¢ out there, I know it's not that serious it's just an interesting topic I suppose

[desert ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-4452377

[deft glen]

I like discussions :) I wasn't offended or anything

(good movie btw)

[timid prairie]

welcome my long time pain

before

[desert ridge]

I'm just feeling bored, and I don't mean to offend anyone in any way.😜

[deft glen]

I said I wasn't offended

Hands in the air

I'm envious that you guys have a lot of artists on the team lol. Must be a huge help

[timid prairie]

my main tilt reference was I letter

[deft glen]

OH SO THATS THE DIFFERENCE

[deft glen]

My untrained eye wasn't picking it up even though I knew something was different

[timid prairie]

i hope now there is no problem with this logo and i can finally stylize it like before

like that (its old logo with problematic tilt)

[deft glen]

Oh my god the tilt looks way worse when it's all together

Your new version will look a lot better

[timid prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-washington-relief-anxious-man-relieved-fallen-movie-gif-12189192141458533317

[trail quail]

nice, work

hope u do the same for other games

[desert ridge]

The remix text no optical alignment?

[timid prairie]

yes, old logo didn't had any attempts at tilt, because i didn't had photoshop and had only PaintNet

[timid prairie]

let it light

lights off

[slender arch]

noo theres no rgb lighting this sucks waa /s

[marble creek]

Wow, now that's a really nice logo

[timid prairie]

FINALLY

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/246920136332804097/1193532009700671618/yeonjun.gif?ex=65ad0e4d&is=659a994d&hm=59d6fffe08ddc31b12701482ffffa9f6cdd820117761caf9cd1f332a64cb4d8c&

[marble creek]

You can if you want to and you're not threatening to leave

[timid prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/maru-sueharu-osamake-anime-question-confuse-gif-22517170

what does my Max Payne situation have to do with this?

[marble creek]

There's no connection. Just praise and nothing more

[timid prairie]

Quite strange praise

[timid prairie]

Уж лучше просто выражаться молодец, мне даже малейший намёк на негатив не ценен

[marble creek]

What tender young people....

[timid prairie]

I can express this tenderness to you with an obscene language if you want.

[marble creek]

Anything you see fit

[ember cobalt]

what is it with this chat and arguments? lol. like every time i check in, there's some kind of debate or argument going on

ah wait, thought this was #1100576149895131246

same 2 people going at it 🙂

[marble creek]

We're within the bounds of propriety for now, but that's up to you

[wary saffron]

АХАХАХАХХА БЛЯ

LMAO

[surreal ruin]

Stick to english on the server please, check the rules. 🙂

[wary saffron]

whoopsie, sorry

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/906660046723756103.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[twin sandal]

looks damn geourgeus

beatiful

hi people, this is the same as Uncle Burrito? https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NFSU2-RTX-Remix

[pearl matrix]

when driving the reflection from the car looks really low quality like this

but it looks good when parked

any way to improve it when driving?

[jade briar]

yes

[twin sandal]

oh, thanks. can you give download link for the game please?

[surreal ruin]

The game? We don't do piracy here

[twin sandal]

i have NFSU2 Definitive Edition by Gametest but i dunno if i can install above it

[twin sandal]

NFSU2 is a abandoware game right now

[jade briar]

It's not compatible with other mods

[surreal ruin]

Abandonware is NOT a legal term

Don't discuss piracy on this server

You WILL get banned

[twin sandal]

i don't loose nothing with just asking

when you doesn't know something, you ask

[surreal ruin]

If you had read the rules you'd know you're not allowed to discuss this

But you clearly skipped that part

We don't support piracy, and we as the NSFU2 remix team are not distributing any copyrighted materials.
Go buy an original copy of the game if you want to play, don't get us into trouble, thanks 🙂

[vague sparrow]

Ray Reconstruction

[deft glen]

Ray reconstruction isn't in remix yet

[deft glen]

Check your denoiser setting in Remix

That might have something to do with it

[vague sparrow]

reflections on their own will always look noisy because of the standard denoiser

once ray reconstruction arrives it might look better like it did it cyberpunk

[marble creek]

What about when you can't buy a legal copy?)

[deft glen]

You can argue it from a moral standpoint but in this server all piracy is a hard no

[surreal ruin]

Yeah we still don't support piracy nor are we allowed to discuss the subject on this server, so let's stop right here.

[pearl matrix]

yep its the denoiser causing it

i disabled it just to check

hmm

[deft glen]

At the end of the day Nvidia's active here so we gotta play by the rules

[deft glen]

Go to the remix graphics settings menu, should be at the top. You can change the quality of the denoiser

There's two modes

[vague sparrow]

funny we say that but they let us upload game captures on ModDB

😬

[pearl matrix]

no mode fixes it

[deft glen]

It's uploaded as a modding resource in a unique format, so I think it's more grey

[pearl matrix]

i guess something here

[deft glen]

No denoiser is sharper but I'm sure you can already see how noisy the image is. If you prefer it go for it, just not the intended look

[deft glen]

No not those

At the top there's a separate literal remix graphics settings menu, it's a box that opens in the middle of your screen

It's a lot more straightforward, I think there's low and high settings. No fancy confusing numbers

[pearl matrix]

yeah i checked that

but none of the options fix the reflection

[vague sparrow]

if you want more detailed reflections your only option rn is wait for proper RR implementation

[deft glen]

Hmm it's probably your internal resolution then. What DLSS mode are you on? Just be wary that the higher you go performance gets hit hard as internal resolution is tied to the number of rays used

[pearl matrix]

none

i only run framegen

[deft glen]

really??

Wow

[pearl matrix]

yes

[deft glen]

I wonder if DLSS quality might actually look better, as far as I know native isn't using DLAA

[pearl matrix]

i did try them all

[deft glen]

And Remix's TAA is...

[pearl matrix]

full res, quality, balanced

none of them made a difference

oh nvm

im running dlss full resolution

cause of dlaa

[deft glen]

I thought remix didn't have DLAA

[pearl matrix]

it doesnt but im pretty sure its inside dlss

thats why full res

[deft glen]

When you say it's running full res, does it say DLSS: full resolution?

[pearl matrix]

yes

[deft glen]

It probably is DLAA then. Strange, the quality should be a lot higher than the screenshot

[pearl matrix]

with Denoiser off the reflection quality while driving is really good

but then its really really grainy

so how do i tweak it to remove the grain but keep the quality xd

[surreal ruin]

That's what a denoiser does

Removes noise, and reflections tend to get picked up by it

[tawny elk]

You don't

[surreal ruin]

We just have to hope that the denoiser gets better in the future

[pearl matrix]

well i think i just did LOL

[twin sandal]

i didn't find it

:c

[pearl matrix]

i just set the primary direct light denoiser from ReLax to ReBLUR

and it fixed the reflections on the car while driving

[jade briar]

The download link is just for the mod. You will have to find the game yourself. Do not ask about it here.

[twin sandal]

kay

but i checked the pin message, and i can't see anything

just messages and images

[tawny elk]

What are you looking for? The link to the mod is in the pins. That's all there will be

[twin sandal]

i just clicked the thing on the pined message

that

[tawny elk]

The first message in pins is the link to the mod. #1103377328530276403 message

[surreal ruin]

It's literally the firs tthing that shows up in the pinned messages

[vague sparrow]

mind explaining who pinned this and why

[surreal ruin]

That

Is a very good question X)

[vague sparrow]

[jade briar]

This is server history

iykyk

[jade briar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-funny-funny-funny-face-confused-gif-26190760

[rain nova]

I really liked the asphalt 😳

good job guys

[vague sparrow]

holy shit that looks good

[pearl matrix]

any way to increase headlight range? Cant see anything in some dark places like the mountains or the drift course

[desert ridge]

In the next upcoming release, we will be reworking all the lighting settings. If you can't wait for the release or if you prefer to edit it yourself, you can capture the scene and use the Remix Toolkit or Omniverse USD Create to make the necessary edits.

[fair crystal]

Or you could just use high beams /j

[desert ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/what-why-huh-steve-harvey-confused-gif-3998567347368525851

[timid prairie]

funny that i did this, even though its pretty much useless now as nobody remixing U1 as far as i know

[twin sandal]

hi. i have a question. what is the project framerate limit and how much GPU usage i will get? i'm running 3060Ti + 5700X.

is framerate unlocked?

it is possible to enable/disable/ ray tracing?

i ask this to see how my PC responds with enable/disable and higher res textures

[vague sparrow]

All I can say is that you'll get a sub 30-40fps experience with 1080p DLSS performance preset because of the 3060 ti

[twin sandal]

😦

[vague sparrow]

It's gonna be maxed out due to path tracing

[twin sandal]

No 90fps? sad:(

[vague sparrow]

only with frame generation if you have a 4000 series card

[twin sandal]

time to sell my house and get a 9090 Ti Super Ti. lol

i tested other games like Portal RTX and get 120+´fps

but i think this is because a lot of details in NFSU2:(

[vague sparrow]

even the best of the best nvidia Gpu aka 4090 gets around sub 40fps on 1440p with no DLSS on ug2

[twin sandal]

and in 1080p?

[vague sparrow]

Wait what

[twin sandal]

there's RT presets in the project?

to run it better

[twin sandal]

yup

imagine when i get the 5800X3D

[vague sparrow]

Maybe better I guess

[pearl matrix]

yeah there are benchmarks of people running it with 3060 ti

[twin sandal]

o:

i re installed windows like 6 times in january

some windows file get corrupted and my fps and gpu usage in PUBG mainly started to drop

but i think i have pretty good PC

i was pointing to something like 1080Ti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq_ECDk-y8U i'm looking at this, and look awesome

A Dream Come True.

i hope to see Prostreet too, very fun racing game

[desert ridge]

You can download the optimized debug build from GitHub Action to toggle ray tracing in the game. Press the "+" key on your numpad to toggle it on and off.

[twin sandal]

i have TKL keyboard:(

[desert ridge]

I have a 4090, and on average, I get around 60-70 fps. However, in certain areas, the frame rate may drop to 30-40 fps.

[twin sandal]

wow

thank you for the reference

[twin sandal]

https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NFSU2-RTX-Remix this?

[desert ridge]

You can also toggle it in the Remix menu. Look for the option in the first tab.

[vague sparrow]

Can we expect this level of graphical fidelity when remix improves? One of the only screenshot that truly encapsulated the feeling of a remaster

[twin sandal]

i'm looking this and i feel looks different https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcKbXHQZQJA

[desert ridge]

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions

[timid prairie]

decided to do for fun because why not

[desert ridge]

If the RR feature is released in Remix, it will definitely result in a clearer and clean image.

[twin sandal]

i like it the car moar like this

[desert ridge]

This screenshot was rendered using the reference mode.

[twin sandal]

what i have to do there?

[tawny elk]

Prostreet won't work 😦

[desert ridge]

If you want to enable or disable ray tracing in the game, you need to download the debug optimized build. I have already attached a picture showing how to download it.

[timid prairie]

and no black borders variation because i can

[vague sparrow]

Sharper reflections and shadows with RR

[twin sandal]

i can't find it, all is too confusing for me:(

[twin sandal]

sad:(

[desert ridge]

Due to the limitations of Remix, we are currently unable to replace the entire car body. However, we are working on replace the headlight and taillight with a higher poly count mesh.

[twin sandal]

i just can't find it, the search bar doesn't work

pls can send the link?

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/7719289008 this? @desert ridge

what i do next?

i can't understand anything

AH:(

[desert ridge]

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/7719289008/artifacts/1207347068

[twin sandal]

i opened it, and i see this

[desert ridge]

Have you logged in to GitHub?

[twin sandal]

nope, i'm into that

still verifying wtf

i'm signed in, as you see

[desert ridge]

https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1098785289838796850

[twin sandal]

now i can download it

but the page is the same lol

just auto started download

i'm trying to get the game

[surreal ruin]

Just go out to your local retro game store and pick up a copy

They're not rare

[twin sandal]

in my country that doesn't exist lol

[surreal ruin]

Well then you'll have a hard time

For CRYING out loud

[desert ridge]

Wait, you don't have the game?

[twin sandal]

because from latam

[surreal ruin]

How many times do I have to tell you

You are NOT allowed to discuss piracy ON THIS SERVER

[twin sandal]

kay

[desert ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-reynolds-wtf-what-the-gif-23856906

[surreal ruin]

@ember cobaltKim please, this person won't stop

[twin sandal]

just was telling

[surreal ruin]

I warned you plenty of times already!

[twin sandal]

only 2 with this time

i understand

just was telling why

[surreal ruin]

I shouldn't have to warn you once, you should have read the server rules when you joined

[ember cobalt]

any further mentions and you'll be kicked. please don't mention it any more

i know it probably feels extreme, but it's actually dangerous for it to be talked about, so just please don't

[desert ridge]

Sorry, I didn't read the previous message carefully and ended up guiding the wrong person.

[pearl matrix]

Huh this doesnt happen to me

[twin sandal]

srry but it is impossible to get a physical copy where i live srry again

thank you so much

[pearl matrix]

I have a 4080 and my fps is 76 most of the time with frame gen and dlss set to max resolution (only cause of dlaa included in it so basically no dlss)

1440p tho

[twin sandal]

i don't have Amazon here

srry

[timid prairie]

i understand its the rules, but that felt quite rude, especially knowing that person ain't able to get phys copy

if she was talking about it more than two times, alright then

[ember cobalt]

unfortunately it's just one of the rules that has to be followed pretty strictly. i do agree it was a bit rude though

@twin sandal you're fine, don't worry about it. just have fun 🙂

[twin sandal]

yeah, thanks for your understanding, obviously if can be possible, i just get a disk copy where i live.

but doesn't exists

srry again

[desert ridge]

Perhaps I have some higher polygon and translucent material elements that are not included in this release, which may be causing lower frame rates compared to yours. It's important to note that I'm referring to raw performance without frame generation.

My screen res is is 3440x1440, quality mode.

[pearl matrix]

Ah i see. I cant run it without frame gen otherwise its 45fps

If i turn off framegen and set dlss to quality i get 80fps

Weird

[snow coral]

It's just abandonware wtf are you guys talking about

[ember cobalt]

abandonware is not a legal term or definition in the US

[surreal ruin]

I pointed this out to them before and pointed them towards the fact that it's a rule on the server, they chose to ignore it and came back to do it again.

[desert ridge]

I've been unable to turn on framegen as it keeps crashing my game recently. This issue seems to be specific to Remix, as other games work fine without any problems.🥲

[pearl matrix]

xD on single channel ddr5 (manually overclocked timings tho)

[ember cobalt]

alright, can we just totally stop this discussion? they apologized multiple times, it's not worth discussing further. plus it's in the wrong channel

[twin sandal]

which game was the best tech graphics progress at his time? NFSU2 or Halo?

what you think?

[desert ridge]

In Remix, I always have a strange square on the left side of the screen, which doesn't occur in any other game.🥲

[desert ridge]

COD

[twin sandal]

but, between that two i mentioned

when i was a kid, COD looks pretty good honestly

i tried on PC

a friend of mine from school haved it

in that time i haven't a pc

he haved a NVIDIA old school GPU lol
was running pretty smooth honestly

[surreal ruin]

Ain't about them, I've pointed it out to them several times now already and now ya'll are calling me out for getting frustrated over the fact that they completely ignored what I had told them before.

I agree, conversation done, but don't give me shit for trying to make sure we don't get in trouble, the team is putting a lot of work into this mod and I don't want that stuff getting us into any trouble.

[desert ridge]

If you ask someone from the NFSU2 Remix team, i would probably agree that NFSU2 Remix mod is the best.🤣

[twin sandal]

lol. i think every dev team i believe.

devs jokes

[jade briar]

Oh perfect

Thank you

[ember cobalt]

yes, that's why it's against the server rules, and i do take it seriously. i deleted any of their comments referencing it. if they do it again, they'll be kicked as i said. they did apologize though & people do make mistakes, so i just hope it won't happen again

[desert ridge]

FYI, https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1097963421619720392

[ember cobalt]

knock it off. i don't really give a crap what your opinion on abandonware is to be clear, follow the server rules

[twin sandal]

okay now i have the game

[surreal ruin]

🤦

I'm so done

Good night folks

[twin sandal]

i will just test it

[pearl matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/grrr-mimi-zzz-mimimi-sleepy-gif-14301828237081548758

[twin sandal]

a mimir si señol

[timid prairie]

This already looks like a shot from a modern game

[twin sandal]

i think the same

[forest salmon]

🫠

[timid prairie]

Ya welcome mate

[twin sandal]

@timid prairie thank you for be kind with me, like you was in my shoes. precciated.

[twin sandal]

woa, i believe that is too much..?

or is normal?

[timid prairie]

I just have some common sense in my head, even though im not entirely moral perfect guy

[twin sandal]

🌸 🌸

[pearl matrix]

Installed a camera mod similar to the modern nfs

[jade briar]

INteresting

Can I have a link?

[timid prairie]

Good choice, along with RTX upgrades it does make a right effect

[pearl matrix]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yOOGsdcb-nw

Set 2 is what i use

[jade briar]

I'll test

[pearl matrix]

He messed up the naming in the video and used the name set 3 on set 2 and set 3 camera angle

[twin sandal]

wow

it looks like my first best HD experience lol

just to mention. when i opened, says need the 1.2v .exe, but run it anyways. runs at 19fps at min and 40fps max with 3060Ti 5700Xcpu without doing nothing

some lights are popping out lol, but is pretty playable and looks very good. NFS2015 vibes.

how i open the menu?

[still carbon]

alt+x

[twin sandal]

is a lot darker lol

this guy just stopped in front of me. lol

looks very realistic, honestly. good job guys.

i'm running in DLSS performance

all at max 1080p

[timid prairie]

i should try to play with RTX again one time, because last time i played with it (25th July of 2023) it looked like this

[twin sandal]

i like the first one

[twin sandal]

lol

without restart

[twin sandal]

sometimes i hit 110fps

[rain nova]

a mimir 🔥

[jade briar]

I crave violence

I wish to kill

[timid prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/kingsman-gif-22752308

[vague sparrow]

pipe bomb tutorial hidden in somewhere

[vivid thicket]

LET'S GOOO

[tiny nimbus]

Rip

Youtube sucks they demonetized my channel too

[ember widget]

yt's moderation try to not be garbage challenge x)

[pearl matrix]

hd ui

welp i broke the game rip bozo

[valid geyser]

atleast you didnt get a community guidelines strike for spreading terrorism xddd

[jade briar]

ybr

[valid geyser]

i got one on a random nfs carbon video years after upload

[jade briar]

lol

[valid geyser]

atleast the appeal worked

[jade briar]

I hope mine does as well

[somber tendon]

Hello everyone, sorry, I couldn't read all the thread, so a quick question: Is it possible to run this mod with 2060 RTX Super GPU? Because I can't do that right now, the game crashes when I hit "Continue" on "Game loaded" dialog. I tried to remove widescreen fix, set affinity and rename dinput8.dll file to dsound.dll. I tried that with different game versions, with and without patch. What else can I do?

[jade briar]

That's strange

It should work

[somber tendon]

Maybe I have some old mod version, how to check that?

[jade briar]

Where diy you download it from?

[surreal ruin]

The mod has always worked on those cards I'm pretty sure

Doubt your card is the issue

Are your drivers up to date?

[somber tendon]

I got it here: https://www.moddb.com/mods/need-for-speed-underground-2-remix

Yes, mod required new drivers, so I updated them

Here is some log file I found in game directory

[surreal ruin]

Sounds like you might not have installed it correctly

[somber tendon]

The mod or the game?

[surreal ruin]

The mod

[somber tendon]

As I recall I just unpacked it into the game directory

[surreal ruin]

Should be all you need really

Huh

Could you screenshot your folder for us?

[somber tendon]

Sure, here it is

[balmy chasm]

Have you had d3d9.dll file in your unmodded setup?

[somber tendon]

No

Probably lol

Most certainly

[balmy chasm]

What's inside BP folder?

[somber tendon]

it's previous .exe file version

[balmy chasm]

Can you check that with fresh reinstall

[somber tendon]

I tried just now without this folder and result is the same

You mean to deinstall the whole game?

And install again

I can, but I already did it

I'm sure it will crash again after mod installation

[balmy chasm]

But I asked to check that file on fresh install

[somber tendon]

Yes, it worked without mod, but mod refused to work with that file

so I had to replace it with another

Or do you mean something else? Sorry I'm not a native speaker

[balmy chasm]

Screenshot the unmodded folder

[somber tendon]

ok, a moment please

I removed all mod related files and game doesn't crash on both launcher files versions

[balmy chasm]

Alright. I'd like to know if your unmodded instal contains any mods you haven't noticed. So please, confirm that unmodded install has no d3d9.dll file

[somber tendon]

Yes, here is the current working configuration

[spark moon]

what are u guys using for the light glow...ignore directional light or something else...can you confirm

[somber tendon]

I also found this log file, if it helps

[upper hill]

🤝 have same logs

err: Texture c:\Users\Emanuel Kozerski\Jogos\Need for Speed Underground 2\rtx-remix\mods\gameReadyAssets\03_meshes\01_props\01_roadways\GuardRails\albedo.dds asset data cannot be found or corrupted.

I think this is a problem

wrong path

[somber tendon]

How can I fix it?

[upper hill]

I think that only change the path to file

idk how

@jade briar help!!

[jade briar]

what

[upper hill]

check logs

[severe solstice]

helppp burritooo

[jade briar]

hmnm

wait

[upper hill]

E:\Games\NFSU2 my path to SPEED2.exe

[ionic prawn]

i instal like uncle burrito learns, but the game not works correctly... my GC RTX 3060 12gb and mox fps is 30... The colors of the lights dont works... What wrong i does???

[jade briar]

Which lights?

[ember river]

I've seen and checkd his end is working fine, think he mentions the neon lights and world event icons being white due to vertex colors being disabled

[ember river]

Is that right? Neons and World race/shops all white?

[jade briar]

Really gotta make an update

[ember river]

I just wonder now, why tf guardrails (and maybe other assets) have absolute paths to my machine now. They were fine before

[jade briar]

With hemry's reflections, using xbei's blacklist thing, and fixing whatever this bug is

with the texture

[ionic prawn]

Shop, money in street and infos

its white

[jade briar]

Yeah that's a feature not a bug

[ionic prawn]

yes

[jade briar]

Will fix in next update

[ionic prawn]

The red arros guard rails too, not like the first version

[jade briar]

I know

[ionic prawn]

not have a glow lights,

[jade briar]

I know

[ionic prawn]

and the fps, now i have max 30fps

[jade briar]

what gpu?

[ionic prawn]

RTX 3060 12gb

[ember river]

Same as mine, that is expected too

[jade briar]

I know\

[somber tendon]

Can you update me if it will be fixed? Or I don't know

I guess I have just wait for the updates and try them

[spark moon]

i cant select particle effects and decals not working in the latest runtime

[compact crystal]

Hi,
I installed remix 4.0.0 with dxvk to the folder of the game. Installed widescreen fix as well, but when i start the game, no RT, even though the Remix UI works. In the "speed2_d3d9.log" I get [RTX-Compatibility-Info] Trying to raytrace but not detecting a valid camera. warn: D3D9DeviceEx::SetRenderState: Unhandled render state D3DRS_MULTISAMPLEANTIALIAS info: [RTX-Compatibility-Info] Skipped drawcall, colour write disabled.

I saw people complaining about this on other channels, and the answer is "this game does not work with remix yet"

But NFSU2 does work, as seen from all the people in this channel

I don't get this

Any ideas?

For anyone stumbling upon this, I have found an answer. In the game folder open, or create "dxvk.conf", and add the following line

rtx.useFreeCamera = true

[pearl matrix]

Use the new remix in pinned

its only drag and drop to game folder all set up

[obsidian knoll]

Good job guys, i didnt tried it yet but from the screenshoots it looks nice

[delicate torrent]

Why tf the video got deleted smh

[open shard]

the game bugs a lot i'm stuck between 1 and 3 fps is this normal?

[surreal ruin]

Going to need more info than that

What GPU are you on?

Have you tried restarting the game?

It's definitely not normal behaviour

[open shard]

RTX 3070 and CPU i7 13700KF

[open shard]

yes i try

restart the game

and when I launch the game it's not full screen I have to go to the game options to fix the problem.

[dapper root]

Hey uhhh the video is removed from youtube..

[surreal ruin]

We know, nothing we can do about it rn I'm afraid

[dapper root]

I see

[jovial quartz]

Just tried the demo release, any idea of full version this stuff is wild

[jovial quartz]

like delicious lads and gals good work seriously

[wintry fable]

finally got rtx because this project

[south crater]

@jade briar hello is there any way i can speak to you about contributing to the project?

[jade briar]

here

[south crater]

oh okay i added you , but i was interested in helping out with buildings

for extra polys.

the app was a bit too slow for me, so i kinda gave up on it, and i would rather try and add to someone else than try and do my own "mod"

[jade briar]

sure

[south crater]

got an idea on how i would go about extracting for reference or straight editing and keeping the same uv's

[jade briar]

Extracting what?

[south crater]

found a way 😄 nvm 😄

[silent crag]

hey @jade briar how can a install this? I tried copy the files, but the game always crashes, thx

[jade briar]

Man this is fucking stupid

I hate

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

fuuuuuuuuck

you

youtube

I'm mad

[ember river]

What there is in the video to be considered harmful or dangerous? wtf

[balmy chasm]

Please, feel free to post your questions and progress here

[jade briar]

They said I'm showing how to pirate the game

ohhhhhhh

My hate

It's growing

[balmy chasm]

Do you have any mention about game install?

[jade briar]

NO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozb3V4MRKg4

[balmy whale]

btw that statue in the background is a real statue from chicago

https://chicagomonuments.org/monuments/the-defense

[pearl matrix]

If only the car in the thumbnail wasnt photoshopped 😭

It fits so well with the enviroment

[jade briar]

It actually doesn't

[sharp sinew]

for the car reflections has anyone tried adding a bit of metalness?I know its not physically accurate and i'm sure i'll get arrested for suggesting this but you're essentially increasing the IOR when you increase

[jade briar]

I use 0.2 metalness

[sharp sinew]

oh you know what, what i wrote is bollocks IOR and metalness are independent

next time you got remix open could you jack it up to one? bet it looks sick

Many users of PBR believe that controlling the reflectivity of an object should all be done through metalness values between 0 and 1, and that the Index of Refraction (IOR) value is a constant for all materials; this is physically inaccurate. Different materials have different IOR values and materials are either dielectric or conductive.
https://www.chaos.com/blog/understanding-metalness

[jade briar]

I think that's an optimization thing

[fair crystal]

Have you guys thought about re-uploading the vid to another video service or to discord itself?

[jade briar]

I just put a text tutorial instead

[fair crystal]

Cuz youtube sucks. It really does. Hard

[wheat moth]

can we keep the conversation clean about NFS:U2 rtx remix and not trivial things? if you want installation guides, how to buy games, or which game is cuter go and google it.

[jade briar]

Bro found a message from 2 days ago to complain about lol

[wheat moth]

Can the modders keep this subposts for only the project itself and delete anything else unrelated?

[jade briar]

We have a private server for work

[wheat moth]

like this and mine

[jade briar]

Go wild

ALl useful things are pinned

[wheat moth]

what is RR then?

[jade briar]

Ray reconstruction

[vague birch]

the game crashes after a while when enabling frame generation is it just me

[rain nova]

Guys with the 2070 / 2070 SUPER, could you tell me your average FPS on the free roam map?

[jade briar]

Frame gen can cause crashes

Try to disable any overlays that you may have opened

[vague birch]

seems like that was the problem still no crash after i closed afterburner, thanks

[jade briar]

Yep

[south crater]

Is it just me or is the camera navigation on the remix app just bad? i cant seem to turn left or right

[jade briar]

What

[south crater]

to navigate inside the viewport on a capture

[jade briar]

Are you using the wasd camera?

[south crater]

well im using w/e is default

And for performance, do any of the ingame settings matter? should i change any of em?

So i also figured out how to edit the meshes in blender, Is there a list of meshes that you ahve already replaced, i see some walls and palm trees for example. but would you happen to have a check list?

i could and would start on the buildings but i would like to know where you're at with those. (the main ones that is)

[jade briar]

Read the instructions on the moddb page

[jade briar]

If it looks like it's made out of 3 whole polygons, then it's probably not new

[ember river]

Take a look at our GitHub project page to have some grasp, it covers almost every mesh replacement made
https://github.com/users/Ekozmaster/projects/1

But afaik no one has reworked any buildings yet

[ember river]

That is wonderful. We don't have a stablished style guide yet, but the general consensus we've been talking about is

• Stay faithful to the original in shape and colors
• Try to rework the scale so a clothing shop door won't fit 3 stacked Hummers

[south crater]

ssweeet! ill give it a go here ive moddled for other games for like 3-4 years now 😄

i like to build off the actual mesh itself

so that way i dont have to redo uv's

[ember river]

Well, we've been remodelling stuff to high standards, that includes properly UV map to optimize texel density in where it matters, higher quality textures, and so on. Feel free to break your models in multiple tileable materials to extract most out of the textures bcz with remix we don't need AO maps or other stuff.
Well, you know your workflows, just aim for the best quality, just don't go lazy and drop fully sculpted non optimized bricks or stuff like that

Also, please, transparent stuff is a no no. If you really need something to be transparent (like windows or vegetation), ask us and we can help finding the best routes bcz remix hates with all of its forces, transparency

[drifting steeple]

hi guys im having an error pop up saying something about my gpu not being good enough to run this have i done something wrong?

[jade kayak]

What GPU do you have?

[prime rose]

What an obnoxious streamer...

[vague sparrow]

Do what panthaa said, we need heat rtx remix

[pearl matrix]

I found frame gen to cause obviously visible ghosting

Its bad

[vague sparrow]

that's with auto exposure off?

[balmy chasm]

Also keep in mind we're refreshing things as close to original game. So keep your replacements at least similar to original mesh. The least you can do is color match, the most - finding the IRL reference(which it is based off) and implementing it

[somber tendon]

Can anyone share the source where I could get the copy of the game, which is most probably compatible with this mod?

[balmy chasm]

Your CD on a shelf 🤔

[jade briar]

No

[jade briar]

What GPU?

[somber tendon]

Why not?

[jade briar]

#rules
Rule 5

[somber tendon]

Is there no way to buy licensed copy?

[jade briar]

The only way is to buy a second hand disk

[balmy chasm]

and disk drive

[somber tendon]

Ok, no rtx nfs for me then

[vague sparrow]

i bought cracked games

think about it

[surreal ruin]

No discussion of piracy on this server.

@ember cobalt

[spiral fable]

could this run on my 2060 ?

[vague sparrow]

the answer to your question is yes, it can run

but not very smoothly

[spiral fable]

would I get 30 fps ?

[balmy chasm]

I have really high doubts

[spiral fable]

🤣

hahaha, imagine a gpu only lasting for 5 years

still not gonna upgrade untill they drop the 5000 series

[balmy chasm]

Well, your GPU hasn't changed actually. The industry around it did

[vague sparrow]

@spiral fable

[spiral fable]

god damn it Nvidia

fell for the 2060 meme

[balmy chasm]

You can grab a used 3060ti for cheap now. And use it up until 5000 release

[spiral fable]

just going to wait untill november

it's not that long

[vague sparrow]

what was that oi sound at the end

[jade briar]

that was ezio I think

[vague sparrow]

damn bro got the freesync premium monitor 🤣

[timid prairie]

Thats why Megaminds like me won't talk about Piracing and just will ask what version is required so it could be found 🤣

[balmy chasm]

Version 1.2 I guess? Not sure it's been tested on any else. Also not sure if it won't run on any version of game

[jade briar]

damn

Still going strong with these numbers

[old condor]

hello i am new here i am a fellow youtuber of retros myself and the 3.0 version is super clean but frame rate problems and idk how to fix it. i understand it is in early access but man i am very happy to have seen such creation! much love and thanks

[timid prairie]

Well obviously its 1.2, because its most mod compatible

[fair crystal]

Wait, how do I know which version I have?

[valid geyser]

you have 1.2

everyone has 1.2

[timid prairie]

"everyone"

[fair crystal]

"Has"

[valid geyser]

every copy on the internet is 1.2

unless you install the game from a legit disc and don't install any patches, it's 1.2

same goes for mw and how everyone has 1.3

the only reason you'd have an unpatched game is if you're a speedrunner and you are using a bug that was patched in a later version

[fair crystal]

I used to collect physical NFS games until they got too pricy and sold my entire collection, keeping the install files. I've had many data losses through the years but at least underground, underground 2 and mw are still safe 🙏

If you say so, I'll trust you

[primal garden]

will it be possible to reach 30 fps with an rx 6800? i have the 16gb version and it barely grazes the 10 hahaha.

[surreal ruin]

Without an RTX gpu you won't see great frames

Best I've seen on non rtx gpu's have been in the 10-15 range

Most people are in the 2-5

Happy to be proven wrong though! Give it a try, it's not like people hop in here and give us this information when they test

So we don't really know most the time

[old condor]

what is the best settings to run for need for speed underground 2 rtx for steady 60 fps? happy to get someone settings i have a RTX 3060 12GB

[blazing bone]

you can disable alot of things to achieve better fps

are you willing to lose some eye candy?

[primal garden]

I tried with preset low and upscaling in performance mode

Besides low fps, I found many bugs (black textures for example) and random crashes.

[blazing bone]

pics?

[primal garden]

Sorry if my English is bad, I am from a Hispanic country.

[blazing bone]

do you have volumetric fog on?

its okay

im not a native english speaker either

[primal garden]

I can try to record a short video

[blazing bone]

would be good

[primal garden]

rx 6800 + ryzen 5 2600 + 16gb ram

with that setup i can normally play any game in ultra + 4k + ray tracing on max setting

[ember cobalt]

that sure is smooth

[blazing bone]

you on a 4k monitor?, go ultra performence TAAU

dont expect to run a path traced title on high res

also that doesnt look normal

are you sure you have properly installed?

[primal garden]

1080, and the game is in 1080 as well, the rest of the game is in 4k for other reasons gg

[primal garden]

I followed the moddb instructions, is it because they are not updated?

[blazing bone]

there is a weird decal like thing below the car

[ember cobalt]

well, path tracing is very intensive to begin with, and AMD cards are notoriously bad with RT or PT performance

you'll definitely have to use Performance TAAU and turn down settings in the Rendering tab

[ember cobalt]

what GPU?

[old condor]

rtx 3060 12gb sir

i just want good graphics and just steady 60fps with the rtx remix

[ember cobalt]

well, you'll definitely have to turn down the DLSS option to Balanced or maybe even Performance. in the Rendering tab, there's also some settings. try setting that to Low

to access this menu btw, press Alt+X

[old condor]

see i did the low settings ordeal right but i am not allowed to change anything in the in game settings right? because it seems it affects the game. i dont even have option for framrate 3.0 idk how to activate that.

[ember cobalt]

DLSS 3.0 is locked to 40 series Nvidia GPUs, can't be used on your 3060

and you wouldn't want to modify in-game settings. just Remix's settings through Alt+X

[old condor]

oh okay so dont touch the settings in game gotcha thats why my performance was bad

thank you so much

[ember cobalt]

i don't think that'd affect performance, but it might break things with the mod. really though a 3060 is just a bit underpowered for Remix, so you'll be lucky to get a consistent 60 FPS without dropping all the way down on DLSS

what is your DLSS set to right now?

[old condor]

ultimate perf i believe

[ember cobalt]

and what FPS do you get?

[old condor]

someitmes 30 and sometimes 60.

[ember cobalt]

i don't think you'll be able to get better than that 😦

[sharp sinew]

play it without remix and you'll get millions of fps, all the fps!

[old condor]

ill keep trying to see if there is anything that can be done with what i have or wait till the project is done. i was able to record with it so thats fine

[surreal ruin]

Honestly speaking, preformance will probably not be better once the project is done

The more and more textures and models we replace, the heavier it will get to run

[old condor]

either way it goes i rather keep trying and see what i can do if it means sacrificing something with my 3060 ill try because i do love the project tbh

[surreal ruin]

Definitely do! I mean if you find something that lets us make stuff easier for others that's great

[fading condor]

what do u mean rx 6800? How can I also run the game on an amd video card with rtx remix?

[ember cobalt]

AMD GPUs 6000 series and newer support Remix, they just perform pretty poorly overall

[fading condor]

Well, it's better than nothing. it's sad that I have 5800

[primal garden]

they just released the driver (for amd) that adds fluid motions and doubles the fps, unfortunately it doesn't detect nfsu2 but it will probably work with other games and their remixes.

[ember cobalt]

you can use Lossless Scaling's LSFG mode on Remix just fine. i'm not sure how it compares to AFMF, but it's fairly convincing when used on a base of 50 FPS

[fair crystal]

🙂

[open atlas]

Just because you aren't using the right nocd means jack shit

[ember cobalt]

i would REALLY appreciate it if you guys would:

1. read the rules
2. follow them

stop discussing piracy

[south crater]

So uh this right here, was something i wanted to bring up. i went from 50fps to 75fps on a scene where i would toggle enhanced meshes. so i might disable all the enchanced meshes for now 😄

[austere path]

how to open menu??

[balmy chasm]

Alt+X

[bitter anchor]

same with my RX6700 and r7 2700x, so no hope for amd users to play remix games ?

[surreal ruin]

You definitely can, but framerates don't tend to be very playable

[ember cobalt]

i just had my bro try with his RX 6800 and it's really unplayable, to the point where imo it's not worth bothering. it was getting about 3-5 FPS with TAA-U set to Ultra Performance from 1440p in Portal RTX

[bitter anchor]

oh well...i'll try it on my work laptop then 🙂 it has a rtx 3060 , will i get playable fps on it?

[balmy chasm]

24fps if you're lucky I guess

[bitter anchor]

dang 💀 i'll give it a shot i guess, thanks everybody

[twin egret]

How's 1440p on a 10GB 3080?

[surreal ruin]

Give it a test! Should be decent I guess?

We don't have any preformance lists

[vague sparrow]

we should when you guys release the next update. maybe a private playtest with different systems if possible

[surreal ruin]

Not sure it's worth doing this early on

We're nowhere near done so any of that data will get outdated pretty quickly

[vague sparrow]

true but please keep in mind, you do have some form of test data if you search the mod on youtube

many people are testing it and posting their results, just letting you guys know

[surreal ruin]

I'm not going to spend lots of time going through youtube videos, time is already limited enough, none of us are doing this fulltime and at this specific moment the performance isn't really important to us, the tools and runtime are in beta, and we're nowhere near ready to start doing optimizations

When the project approaches a more finished state however, that's when we should dedicate proper time towards this stuff

We're just not there yet

[pearl matrix]

Ehhh

Pretty much most rtx remix games have the same performance as the path tracing in cyberpunk

So if you can run cyberpunk with path tracing then you can run any game with rtx remix