NFSU2 (Need For Speed Underground 2)

[vestal pier]

I downloaded #39 bridge and #320 dxvk. Do I need to download #37 bridge and #321 dxvk?

[jade briar]

These will be need for speed graphics in 2010

[vestal pier]

Kinda broken performance from my game
But anyway, looks pretty interesting

Also, only 50% of GPU usage

[dusty grove]

Try experimenting with in game graphics settings
But better solution will be:
1 install github desktop
2 clone nfsu2remix repository
This way you will get latest and greatest version of mod

[dusty grove]

Game is heavily cpu limited, try ocerclock ram and cpu if you can.

[vestal pier]

ah yes
looks great

fixed that cubes a little bit

[cloud crypt]

we know there are some problems. Some of them will bee fixed in thee next release. For 0.4.0 a full oveerhaul is planned to fix these issues but i cant teell more

[jade briar]

Bro talking like he's under nda 💀

[blazing bone]

What's bro blabbing about?

[cloud crypt]

blabbing?

[blazing bone]

Just letting you know, the releases aren't much different from the actions
They are actually older

[cloud crypt]

not talking about that, i talk about our mod versions

[jade briar]

Me when I don't know what I'm talking about

[blazing bone]

Are you talking about me or him 😭

[jade briar]

U

[ember river]

We're also tagging the next u2rtx version as 0.3.0, not related to remix's version at all

[blazing bone]

Oh

I thought you guys were talking about remix versions

Ffs

Get a creative version numbers or something

[ember river]

There are "rules" for software versions: Semantic versioning. The last release was called 0.2.0, so we're keeping up adding to the minor version number atm

[blazing bone]

I know about that i was joking lol

[open atlas]

So much for keeping the people not in the dev server up to date

[vestal pier]

with that fps, it's a photo mode for me
I'm happy to see normal fps in garage

[humble niche]

Dude, Remix isn't officially out yet. They've put a ton of hard work into this project and it's the single most active project in the community. They don't owe us anything.

[cloud crypt]

Hey man, we will keep you guys up to date. As is said i cant tell you uch about 0.4.0 because we are not working on it right now. We work on 0.3.0 so you guys can have a better experience. 0.4.0 will be an complete overhaul of mod-structure, lighting and more. Also plenty of mesh replaces are planned. But that is really all we know right now. We will give further information about things when we are completely shure about the things we want to do in 0.4.0.
I am sorry that i cant tell more, but it is how it is.
But we hope you guys will still have a great experieence in 0.2.0 and when it releases also in 0.3.0 ❤️

[ancient orbit]

hey guys i'm pretty new to the rtx remix stuff is there any release that i can just drag and drop into u2 or is it not available yet?

nvm its pinned im silly

[balmy chasm]

I mean... Me and Hemry made just 3 headlights in last half a month(and they haven't been put in game properly, just import-ready models) 🥲 What type of updates here he's talking about when we don't progress with such a fast pace

[ancient orbit]

is cloning disabled for the nfsu2remix?

[cloud crypt]

Yeah, dont know it either, tjats why i explained

[ember river]

Shouldn't be, it just don't work downloading the files as zip because it uses a special git extension (LFS) for storing large files in a separate server, and only pulls content using git commands/desktop app

git clone, fetch, pull, etc. should all work fine

[ancient orbit]

I tried it with the one that's pinned and i got an access denied pop up, it might be something I'm doing wrong since its my first time delving into rtx stuff and git hub in general so I thought I'd rather ask

[ember river]

Oh, yeah. You must setup your github account with ssh keys to identify your machine. Can't just clone anonimously afaik

[ember river]

I'd recommend you to stick with 0.2.0 release file as it is much easier to install. Cloning the stuff from github is intended for developers and has its own complexities to deal with. Nothing too difficult, but can be a pain sometimes

That being said, here you go
https://docs.github.com/en/authentication/connecting-to-github-with-ssh/generating-a-new-ssh-key-and-adding-it-to-the-ssh-agent

[bright hedge]

fr i cant understand these ones lmao

[vague sparrow]

@vestal pier how is the performance on your 3070 (using dlss performance and lower path tracing quality)

[prime rose]

This one mod is soooo hard to refrain from installing, as a NFSU2 fan 👀
(but I will patiently wait until it's done to have the best experience)

[surreal ruin]

In its current state it's not really a matter of "Best experience" to be honest

It's barely even a good experience at the moment, too many things to fix ^^

So waiting is definitely the way to go

Cars still look like plastic toys and the car paints won't work etc etc

We'll hopefully get there in time though!

[jade briar]

Continues to beg remix devs to add specific compatibility for this game

[prime rose]

Well, by "best experience" I meant whatever it is at the end. Hopefully this can be done. For now I'll be replaying NFSU2 on my Steam Deck OLED when that arrives 😄

[vague sparrow]

Y'all putting it like actual devs is kinda funny

like c'mon, knock it off with the formal style

[surreal ruin]

I am a dev, this is just how I look at this stuff

If that bothers you then I apologize

[vague sparrow]

listen man I don't want to hurt you or anyone just because I feel like everything said here feels like some update note from devs

very closed and formal style from you guys feels odd

[surreal ruin]

What about what we're doing feels closed to you?

Is this about the dev server again or just the general way I conduct myself?

[vague sparrow]

Ah nvm

[cloud crypt]

Well i am sry we sound that formal to you.
But how do we are supposed to talk about the current state of development? We know its just a mod, but well, its fun to me atleast to give smth back to the community what the og devs are not willing to do.

So if it is too formal om sry again

[jade briar]

Real devs act like that for a reason. If we're gonna do this, we better do it properly.

[jade briar]

Half assing stuff is gonna cause many problems later down the line if by some miracle, the project gets big, and there's lots of assets to keep track of

[jade briar]

Bro posting the same 3 screenshots for the 50th time

[timid prairie]

yet it still shows how far we gone since start of that which is crazy

[vague sparrow]

Get remix toolkit early access challenge (hard)

[jade briar]

Every day, I think about dming nyle and asking nicely

But then I get scared

[vague sparrow]

just tell em why you need it, make something good and maybe they'll feature a video on yt

Idk how EA will respond

[cloud crypt]

Nein

[strong rose]

you guys think my laptop 3050 can ~~ run ~~ walk the game with this mod lol

[ember river]

I have a 3060 and play the game always in performance dlss preset. When I put it in quality mode however, I like to think I'm using my arrow keys to step through a slide show pages

[strong rose]

yeah man but you have almost double the cuda and double the vram

is 4 even going to be enough to not give me stutters

[ember river]

If your GPU has 4gb vram total, you might be able to open the main menu, anything past that and the game will play in gif mode

[strong rose]

oh lord

ill install it and maybe ill make a video if shadowplay even picks up the game lol

it doesnt matter if i get 0.3 or 0.2 right rtx remix btw

[balmy chasm]

0.2.0 use less VRAM due to less texture replacements. 0.3.0 will probably go up to 5GB. And final release is planned to be a little under 8GB

[strong rose]

alright appreciate it

[strong rose]

guys it kinda works

a solid 5 frames per second

[jade briar]

beautiful

[cloud crypt]

I think it will need more than 8

[ember river]

I think we will need a strategy

[cloud crypt]

Yeah thats correct

Its about 7GB right now, but that could be caused by the fact that still some textures are too big.

We have to clean them up

Delete textures we dont need and reszize the ones we will use

[strong rose]

okay i tinkered with some settings ill send vid in a sec of the gameplay lol

figured the data might be helpful

gotta love that slow-mo action going on

[cloud crypt]

hm, yeah, defenetly too big textures here... We will work on that
Thx for sharing

[strong rose]

no problem, glad i could be of some help

really looking forward to this it looks sick

[cloud crypt]

maybe we can do smth like a light version

but that is still in the future

[balmy chasm]

I mean... If you run out of VRAM, your whole PC will just stuck a little. We're not talking about even a single fps. It is just your settings give 18 fps

[cloud crypt]

a 3050 isnt a great GPU either for full pathtracing. Maybe i can get a low profile rtx config working for low end gpus

[strong rose]

its the bottom of the stack so yeah this is as bad is it could go basically

[strong rose]

i am completely bound by vram there and the settings had the lowest possible texture settings, the outcome is in the video

[cloud crypt]

yeah, i will work on smth

[bright hedge]

or low end gpus shouldnt use RT 💀

[slender arch]

8gb? damn

[balmy chasm]

8 GB is the most popular VRAM size out there. And only light placement does not increase its usage significantly

[slender arch]

i wish i could get laptop with 8gb vram before but since the inflation and other shit i have no time to buy new one

[balmy chasm]

At least you can always download light replacements solely

[vestal pier]

Needs to reduce standard U2 graphics to improve fps + DLSS. Also, max 2 light bounces
But i have an modified game with many scripts whats increase CPU usage (standard performance is not good too)

Nearly 3-5 fps with max settings (like on screens)
In menu fps is much higer

I had 6gb load for once

Single core efficiency preferred

[vague sparrow]

This is odd

I have seen YouTube videos where people were having 40-50 fps during gameplay with a 3070

[vestal pier]

CPU I guess
and lower settings
maybe better path tracing settings, I am a new one in that case

that's maximum what I can get

game works kinda slow (much slower than my default game 1.5x speed xd)

[vague sparrow]

Play it at default speed

[vestal pier]

00:03 - start lap
01:33 - end lap

game says that was an 00:59

90 vs 59
game works ~31s slower

[vague sparrow]

You might have mod interfere

Get a clean copy of the game and then install remix

[vague sparrow]

https://youtu.be/OF6oEDQPpjs?si=zf2Ox2t1c_qllScj

He has a 3070 too

[vestal pier]

I will try
But
I think it's because of this guy
He still kinda good in new games, but not in this one

[open atlas]

For older games you'll want a CPU with better single thread performance than multicore

[dusty grove]

It isn't overcklockable? Than you can try sell urs, and buy 5960x, its usually under 50$. Mine 5960x overcklocks to 4.5ghz. the only thing to keep in mind is cooling.

[ember cobalt]

the majority of those chips have locked multipliers

only way to overclock them is modifying the base clock, which can cause issues on many systems 😦

[valid crow]

/guys where can i get the download link,i cant find it

[cloud crypt]

Get rid of hd reflections... And just to make sure: we wont support car mods

For remix a clean copy with just widescreenfix and Adams anti culling script is needed

[vestal pier]

Can be turbo boost unlocked to all cores (3300 MHz)

[vestal pier]

you don't support but it still works perfectly

[vague sparrow]

Only if his motherboard supports FSB overclock

[elfin beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/839955092970143747/1177198856727965707/m2-res_262p.mp4?ex=6571a2de&is=655f2dde&hm=c12500e805c4b368653aed3537718f81735c1656db116476ff0cab01a82cdebd&

[trail quail]

https://chng.it/5H5VjHB9nD

[jade briar]

Petetions ain't gonna do shit

[surreal ruin]

They already don't do anything, but this is EA we're talking about X)

Effectivness - 200 %

[slender arch]

Lmao he left

[bright hedge]

it was already happening anyway

[drowsy birch]

I prefer the community of a game to remaster it then the publisher that doesnt really care about the game anymore

[dapper root]

Hey guys, how well does this run on a 4060 Mobile 65W?

[tawny elk]

Prob not too well

[vague sparrow]

Worse than a 3070

[ember river]

I have a 3060 and it runs at 40 fps on ultra perf mode. You might benefit from framegen on a 40xx series

[cloud crypt]

Well, framegen still has a lot of issues...
Crashes in use with riva tuner
Artifacts
Ghosting
BlackBoxes (from the hud) get drawn over the entire screen
And more

[ember river]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-funny-gif-12737723

[dapper root]

I have a 3070 on my pc and rtx remix sucks

I don't understand how it can run so badly when AAA games with RT run better 😂😂

[vague sparrow]

Because you're simulating light

[dapper root]

Indeed

[vague sparrow]

Material properties are not assigned correctly

[dapper root]

Ray tracing is very taxing, I agree

[vague sparrow]

Looks ass rn

[dapper root]

Yeah

I'm into this project, can't wait to see it flourish

[cloud crypt]

Because its not rt, its pt, full pathtracing which is way more complex than normal rt

[vague sparrow]

yeah, current RT games are really more like hybrid raytracing where most of the scene is raster, and at some threshold reflective surfaces cast rays

[valid geyser]

cp2077 and alan wake 2 are pretty much the only proper pt games out there

[sharp sinew]

I'm pretty sure only portal rtx and quake rtx are considered proper path traced games. Those other games have rasterized features don't they

Alan wake has baked gi

[valid geyser]

oh

what about cp2077's rt overdrive mode

[sharp sinew]

Metro was remade from the ground up for ray tracing I think

[cloud crypt]

it still has rasterized features

[cloud crypt]

yes it was, but sadly has still rasterizytion

it would only be a game for raytracing/pathtracing when you really need RTX cores to run it. So it doesnt utalize the normal gpu cores

except for texture output

[fair crystal]

Theres a doom mod that fully pathtraces the game

(The 1993 one)

[vague sparrow]

we know of that but that's a mod

also we have serious sam first encounter

and half life

and quake 1996

[blazing bone]

the dev of that mod is working on remix too lol

[vague sparrow]

technically every path traced game ever released for technical showcase has been a mod

expect maybe Alan Wake 2 (too bad it has PT mixing up with regular GI)

[blazing bone]

i really wish we get an other pipeline for path tracing
like the one in quake 2 rtx and sultim-t mods

so it works with pascal gpus

i forgot what it was called

[vague sparrow]

DXR

?

[blazing bone]

no no

[vague sparrow]

im confused

[blazing bone]

i think it was called VK_KHR_ray_tracing

[vague sparrow]

hmm

[blazing bone]

instead of ray_query

its an older less performant pipeline but works on pascal gpus

[vague sparrow]

i've heard of that

but its done through either CUDA or compute units

[blazing bone]

yeah exactly

[vague sparrow]

all shader based path tracing

[blazing bone]

i really dont know how sultim got path tracing to perform so well on gpus

[vague sparrow]

but wouldn't that need Driver level support?

[blazing bone]

i was able to run half life rt on 720p (60fps?) on my gtx 1660 super

[vague sparrow]

woah

[blazing bone]

i was able to run minecraft rtx too but it was a workaround

got 20-30 fps on 720p too

its dxr 1.0 tho

Later versions seem to got rid of pascal support

even though 16xx series is turing

[vague sparrow]

without the RT cores

and tensor cores

[blazing bone]

yea

but still should be supported!!!!!!

[vague sparrow]

probably not cuz seeing frames per second won't be good

for the average user

you can technically say you got ray tracing support but what's the benefit?

@blazing bone does 16 series gpu's support DLSS?

[blazing bone]

nope

[blazing bone]

i mean, if its technically supported archeticture i should be able to run it

[ember cobalt]

with full blown PT, you kind of need all the performance you can get. honestly Pascal cards and older just have no business doing RT or PT, so personally i don't see the appeal

[vague sparrow]

hmm

in 2018, Nvidia showcased how with Turing they can do RT but it increases latency a lot (bad FPS) and with the help of dedicated RT compute shaders, it gets to a playable level where you can say that its ray tracing in realtime because you're off loading the intensive task to smaller cores

maybe normal cores are better off with general tasks while PT requires tensor cores and RT cores to get playable results

[jade briar]

Who

I think it might be sultim t

Guy makes good mods

[blazing bone]

yeah

[prime rose]

Anything up to 24GB is fine for me 😅

[prime rose]

Can vouch for the 5960X. I still use it lol and it's great when OCd

[vague sparrow]

essentially a Ryzen 5 5600x

[prime rose]

This won't happen. And even if it did - it would never be the same because:

1. EA are greedy goblins
2. car LicEnSiNg
3. music LiCenSinG
4. they'd probably f*ck up the controls anyway and make everything weirdly on rails floaty with bizzarre drift like pretty much everything after nfs shift (I tried Unbound, 2015, Heat... Horrid car physics!)

[cloud crypt]

We can just hope the next nfs dont get these bad physics, but unbound was kinda in the correct direction again. You could choose between drift and grip and you also could turn off tap to drift

hope they do better next time

[ember river]

Everyone wants a bite.

1. "What is in that for me?"
2. "What is in that for me?"
3. "What is in that for me?"
4. To hell with overly exaggerated cinematic cameras. What is wrong with the simple lerp camera controls?

[timid prairie]

i heard that out of NFS since 2015 the Unbound has the best physics out of all of them

[cloud crypt]

Yeah it has, 2015 has the worst
But lets be real, BlackBox Physics (only MW2005, UG2 and Carbon) were peak

[timid prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/max-payne-coffee-sam-lake-gif-18077867239628727999

they also did The Run

(which imho has the best original soundtrack in series)

[elfin beacon]

oh really?
On ultra perf, i get like 55 fps.

[vague sparrow]

what gpu

[elfin beacon]

60 s

20

[vague sparrow]

2060 super?

[elfin beacon]

fr

[tall pine]

🥹

[ember river]

Yup, those are the peaks, though my results are mixed as I'm opening and closing blender, OV, Krita and alike all the time, but yeah

[elfin beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/oceanmam-gorilla-gif-23787593

[dense wolf]

The linked message seems to be deleted

[dense wolf]

The latest Git version of this had a lot of missing textures (while the packaged release works fine)

[tawny elk]

Need to use git lfs as stated in the repo

[dense wolf]

I did fetch the gif-lfs files too with no real effect

[dense wolf]

Why are the lights fading away in the garage? 🔦

[ember river]

Make sure you're in the main branch, not master.
I'm not on my PC rn, but try these:

git fetch
git checkout main -f
git reset --hard origin/main
git clean -df

[ember river]

Also, check if you have any .dds and .usd (not .usda) files under the rtx-remix/mods/gameReadyAssets/03_meshes directory. Those are setup to be stored using LFS. If you don't have them, most likely you didn't install the lfs extension on your system and enabled on your git cli with

git lfs install

https://git-lfs.com/

[dry storm]

there is a guide for install the mod?

[cloud crypt]

Yeah, there should be 2 right now. Mine and another one

Mine isnt up to date anymore, have to make a new one

[mossy pelican]

rays

[timid prairie]

donovans

[whole helm]

where i find the download?

[vague sparrow]

https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NFSU2-RTX-Remix

[vague sparrow]

here

go to the link

[whole helm]

how do i install?

[ember cobalt]

it says it in that link

[whole helm]

its expired

somne files

what im about to do?

[jade briar]

uh

wait

[whole helm]

the dxvk-remix too

[jade briar]

#1132988164814934167 message

Download this

It will auto download both with the latest version

[whole helm]

it worked thanks

hey i got a problem

my game when im opening is crashing

[jade briar]

Does it give an error message?

[whole helm]

no

it just crash and close

[ember cobalt]

do you have an RTX GPU?

[vague sparrow]

It's that darn widescreen patch

[whole helm]

yes

[vague sparrow]

I forgot what it is but in widescreen.ini, you have to set core count to zero

Ug2 hates multi threading

[whole helm]

can someone go call with me

?

[jade briar]

Am already in call

Just reinstall

And remember

oh wait

Rename d3d9.dll in the main folder to d3d9.asi

That might work

[vague sparrow]

I'm writing down all of these possible issues for my own play through

[jade briar]

When are you getting the 3070?

[whole helm]

dindnt worked

[jade briar]

hmmmmm

Uhh

Try reinstalling everything fresh.

I'll write down steps. Follow them exactly

No need to redownload anything

[whole helm]

alright, can you send me a file to instal the need for speed? maybe is my version

[jade briar]

Nah, the version is fine

[vague sparrow]

Soon brother...just need a nice PSU to go by

[whole helm]

alright

[vague sparrow]

No piracy

[jade briar]

What mod file did you download?

Can you link it?

[jade briar]

got it

[jade briar]

I suggest using the auto downloader

[whole helm]

i was not able to find it

[jade briar]

I gave you the link

Wait

[whole helm]

is it?

[ember cobalt]

https://github.com/Kowlin/RTX-Remix-Downloader/releases/latest/download/RTX.Remix.Downloader.exe

yes

[jade briar]

yes

[whole helm]

oh

so what im about to do now?

[jade briar]

Put this in a folder before downloading. It'll download the files in a subfolder

Step 1. Install game, and launch it at least once
Step 2. Download the widescreen patch and install it according to the instructions.
Step 3. Download remix using the auto downloader, and drop it in the main game folder. Rename d3d9.dll to d3d9.asi.
Step 4. Launch the game once and pray that it doesn't crash
Step 5. Download the mod, and unzip the files in the game directory.
Launch the game.

[whole helm]

oh got it

it worked, but look at that

[vague sparrow]

That is not working actually

[whole helm]

what i can do?

[whole helm]

at the step 4, i launch but i cant see my car

[jade briar]

ahhh

Looks like remix is not hooking

Or amybe the game is sticking with next gen graphics

Press alt+x

Does the remix menu open up?

[whole helm]

and now?

what im about to do?

[jade briar]

I forgot about bro

F

[trail quail]

i forgor💀

[mossy pelican]

soo

you guys stopped working on it?

[jade briar]

Most work is done on a private server with just us devs there

[mossy pelican]

fuck emojis

[jade briar]

:)

[mossy pelican]

how to

[mossy pelican]

THANK YOU xD

[open hornet]

icc

[elfin beacon]

Cute

[cloud crypt]

Thats you

[elfin beacon]

Maybe.

https://tenor.com/view/higorgies-monkey-dress-monkey-gif-25589886

[elfin beacon]

Beautiful, isn't it?

[bright hedge]

💀

[slender sail]

rtx 4080's around 50.000-70.000 turkish liras

plus a shitton of tax that's literally not used for anything besides the government's own spendings

last time they bought, like, 10.000 expensive dutch horses like bruh tf are you gonna do with 10k horses 💀💀

oh, great

they banned protonvpn

can't even show the news headlines about it

update: i had to give my soul to the ccp by installing opera on my phone just to get to those websites. here's the link i've gathered https://www.turkishminute.com/2023/03/10/opposition-mp-question-govt-over-expensive-horses-bought-from-netherlands/amp/

[prime rose]

What does turkish politics over horses have to do with Remix or NFSU2?

[vague sparrow]

Need for Remix

[bright hedge]

whats wrong with opera xD

[slender sail]

i was just giving an example

thought like sharing

i am aware how i turned the conversation of rtx graphics card prices into something else

[slender sail]

i don't really know but i heard it's known to be giving user data to china

that topic came out when opera gx added an unnecessary jumpscare at its intro

[dapper root]

Hey guys, how to get the latest version of the project for testing?

[dapper root]

Still the same repo?

[vague sparrow]

uhh no

[dapper root]

They said they switched to another discord server

[ember river]

Discord yeah, repos are still the same

[dapper root]

so still this one?

[vague sparrow]

that's 0.2

[ember river]

We're still here, publicly, just handling the massive boring stuff on private

[vague sparrow]

these guys are on 0.3

[dapper root]

Ah

[dapper root]

I see, nice :))

Is there any way to get the 0.3 repo perhaps? For testing purposes

[vague sparrow]

can we get super secret updates?

[dapper root]

I upgraded to a 4070 now

[ember river]

Yup. The release files are outdated, still 0.2.0, while the unreleased stuff is way more advanced

[vague sparrow]

yeah next update is definitely sometime in 2024, if the toolkit ever releases on 31st December these guys are doomed to work in weird and tediously hard workflow

[ember river]

If you guys know how to use git to clone a repo and pull all the files, then you can get all the latest hot stuff we've been doing

[vague sparrow]

can we get one screenshot on something you guys are working on?

[ember river]

We're trying to wrap things up for a 0.3.0 release soon 👀

[vague sparrow]

yeah....

[ember river]

Think this is the latest showcase pics I remember that shows multiple angles of the city
#showcase message

[ember river]

Soon (in valve's time)

[vague sparrow]

LMFAO

[jade briar]

Peculiar

[vague sparrow]

are you rocking an rtx 3060? how is it running all of that for you (performance i mean)

[jade briar]

Yes

[ember river]

Well, not the greatest tbh, remix as a whole is quite intensive even for games with no asset replacement, just remix injected. But it is playable, I use in performance mode all the time, the FPS drifts around 15~25. In Ultra Performance it can reach up to 40 or 50 sometimes. I notice it suffers a lot on areas with dense vegetation. Raytracing spends all of it's energy raging against semi-transparent stuff

[wild radish]

Can't really blame it can ya. I mean I'm always raging against a semi myself

[balmy chasm]

I know we're not posting a lot of progress, so here's at least something. The finished CIVIC headlights. Rendered in other software, not Remix. Next up in queue is Peugeot 206
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165396161922879538/1188204443720745071/image.png?ex=6599ac9f&is=6587379f&hm=a00435eacfc6204e910ac917d074f00b9f55516190a8573256867c29e4e4859e&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165396161922879538/1188204444010156062/image.png?ex=6599ac9f&is=6587379f&hm=a82b72c979273a2aceec2d263570ed228478d874cd77c18a5d054c3db2190d81&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165396161922879538/1188204444312158248/image.png?ex=6599ac9f&is=6587379f&hm=4abef3ca8d908a3681a817c3729b8ee5bf0d05f7dd0011396c61a9934ad92fff&

[timid prairie]

Looking VERY damn good

[sweet ingot]

Common Civic W

[fair crystal]

Do we think about doing some optimization when the project gets near its end?

Like, releasing a lower res textures + lower polign count version or something

[jade briar]

Just turn the texture quality settings to low

[ember river]

Remix as a rendering engine has been implementing stuff to optimize a lot of aspects and allow per user control on the graphics. Also, since we have a lot of time and do this as a passion project rather than a product, the assets we work on are already being optimized with the best of our knowledge and efforts, but as we better get the hang of remix and raytracing shenanigans, we'll be setting goals to further optimize whatever we can.
Right now, as an example, the biggest performance hits that we can work on and we've been testing and keeping an eye on is raytracing transparent/semi-transparent objects, so we're making an effort to replace stuff like trees and fences with actual geometry to draw their shapes rather than transparent textures.

[surreal ruin]

Worth keeping in mind that optimizing for pathtraced games is very different from doing it for normal games!

So even those of us with lots of industry experience are treading some new ground ^^

[fair crystal]

Oohh, got it.
Now that I understand, I get it*

[timid ginkgo]

so... what is going on with this project

wanna know if anyone is still working on it

[jade briar]

Yes

Work is

....slow

[surreal ruin]

Holiday period ya'll, everyone has been busy doing life stuff ^^

[balmy chasm]

As you may know, most active contributors moved to separate server for further discussion. But that doesn't mean we don't need new modders though. So if anyone wish to contribute, they can just start with posting/asking things here

[balmy chasm]

The finished Peugeot 206 set of lights. Again with no shi-i-iny reflector, for internal showcase only. Also there's a big chance I picked the wrong light assembly for this car, but searching the exact numbers and refs is a pain sometimes

[sharp sinew]

damn those look super complex, nice one

[jade briar]

Now....

Show the wireframe

[timid prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/oso-3d-wireframe-bear-happy-gif-16493951247128666905

[little island]

Do you need a Nvidia card to run this>

[jade briar]

Any card that supports hardware raytracing

[little island]

so a rx5700 should work

[marble creek]

A rx5700 doesn't know how to hardware raytrace

[slender arch]

amd does work atleast its 7xxx XT

but also amd performs worser at path tracing

[marble creek]

path tracing still leaves a lot to be desired and at this point barely catches up with turing, and the rtx remix is just that, path tracing

[little island]

seems I gotta switch to a rtx 3060ti

[pallid river]

More like 4060ti cause you’ll need frame gen, SER, OMM, etc.

They are the same price new anyway

[marble creek]

And a 4060ti is faster in path tracing

[valid geyser]

bump

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/nhhj-gif-20583152

[timid prairie]

Netflix's Hitman looks very good

[timid prairie]

just dropped because i can

Remix logo by Filib (he left)

#1103377328530276403 message

if you want, use it

it might help reduce the amount of criticism a little

i hope

[dapper root]

Hey guys, did you get sponsored by NVIDIA? I saw they posted something about NFSU2 RTX Remix on the HL2 RTX trailer

[balmy chasm]

Where? 🥲

[wild radish]

Love that the creator doesn't even know, thanks nvidia

[balmy chasm]

I'm not following each and every post. Just small 3d generalist doing modelling all day 🥲

[wild radish]

ahh you're a creator of things not THE creator

forgot this wasn't a dedicated server

[balmy chasm]

I mean, Adam is creator. But Burrito is handling this communication staff

[wild radish]

Adam being e-man?

[balmy chasm]

The list of us

[wild radish]

ahh Adam is Adam

that makes sense

[tawny elk]

What I do?

[jade briar]

I'm the creator?

Also no one in that list got sponsored

It's just a list of cool mods that show promise

[vague sparrow]

yall making promo materials to show?

[jade briar]

I recorded some stuff yesterday

[bright hedge]

i wouldn't be surprised of such behaviour from nvidia tho 😂

[ember river]

new video when

[jade briar]

Soooooon

™

[ember cobalt]

wow. i didn't know your name is Adam

[ember river]

Guess what? he is also a player btw!

[tawny elk]

I do play video games

[wild radish]

Dam no way. That's gotta be like illegal or something

[bright hedge]

woow
how

[craggy plover]

I have this flickering problem when driving. I remember there was a fix but dont know what the exact fix was.

[jade briar]

What kind of flickering?

[craggy plover]

It seems to have kind of gone away but I am trying to get a good recording of it

[jade briar]

[dusty grove]

Guys did anyone had problem like this: menu works fine, but when im trying to play it just fully freezes.
Is there any easy fix for it? (Not clean install) i already deleted .cfg, and reinstall remix it self.

[craggy plover]

Not sure if you can see the flickering. I did a before and after frame generation. It flickered on both

[jade briar]

The lights flickering in and out?

[craggy plover]

I feel like its more than the lights flickering in and out. It looks more like objects I think

[jade briar]

this?

[dusty grove]

Enable anti culling, it's somewhere on the button of list

[craggy plover]

You might be right on it just being the lights but not sure

I will try to enable that

[jade briar]

Yeah anti culling won't fix that

It's a known issue

The problem is with unstable motion vectors

Small props around the map like lamps have jittery motion vectors for some reason

[craggy plover]

This spot I always see some flicker/jitter. Might be able to see it better

[jade briar]

Yeah I know

It's a bug

Nothing to fix it right now

[craggy plover]

Alrighty thank you

[surreal ruin]

Might be worth noting that it's best to report bugs with the rendering to Nvidia and not us

As there usually isn't really anything we can do about it

[ember cobalt]

someone reported that this bug was fixed on the issue i have open for it. i'm assuming that was wrong

ah, it was E-man

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/198#issuecomment-1696225627

[jade briar]

Huh

That's interesting

Probably slipped past me

I'll have to check it out

[jade briar]

Use this. It'll fix the flickering lights

At the cost of a lot of noise

Lower overall brightness

and smear

[ember river]

Increasing RIS Light Sample Count from 7 to 16 also works like a charm

[granite forum]

I can't see the download links, only links to the code, how can I get the right links?

It just says expired

[surreal ruin]

Check the pinned messages in this channel.

[granite forum]

Do I just dopwn load the code?

I try to install the bridge and DVXK remixes, but it just doesn't have a download link for the .zip

[jade briar]

Someone walk the dude through the process

I'm too tired rn

[granite forum]

😭 Sorry for being such a noob haha

[wild radish]

Dam there's a thing that downloads the bridge and dvxk for you or always sends you to the right link. A shame it never got pinned though

[ember cobalt]

just for Remix?

if so, it's in #remix-beginners-guide

[surreal ruin]

#remix-beginners-guide message It's right here

Damn Kim

You beat me to it

[ember cobalt]

😛 fast fingers

[surreal ruin]

I'll get you next time!

https://tenor.com/view/palmas-gif-26050611

[wild radish]

I knew I'd seen it somewhere

[granite forum]

Thank you so much guys! Sorry for being such a noob haha

NFSU2 was my favourite game growing up, just a shame a legit remaster never happened, when I saw this I was starstruck aha

[granite forum]

Okay so i've installed the files from the .exe

but the install video says to do from the bridge remix .zip

where do I found that?

[granite forum]

Basically I've downloaded the github code, but can't find anywhere to download the bridge remix release folders

YouTube Video folders/Files

My files/folders

[ember river]

You downloaded the code, not the actual built release of the files.
You'll want to go first on bridge github page, on the "Actions" tab. Click the latest one with a green icon, scroll to the bottom, there should be 3 zip files, one will be release, other debug, and the last is the source zip similar to what u downloaded

Download the release zip file for bridge. Same for dxvk

Oh actually you're using the autodownloader, idk how it works exactly, but anyway, just download the latest action release zips for them and then proceed with the install instructions

[granite forum]

Thanks dude

[zinc meteor]

@jade briar was just looking at the unstable motion vectors bug you filed (issue 297). Could you try playing around with rtx.uniqueObjectDistance to see if any value of that dramatically improves the flickering? I'm thinking it may be set way too large

[jade briar]

And that's in dxvk.conf?

[zinc meteor]

its "Unique Object Search Distance" in the parameter tuning in the UI

[jade briar]

ah

[zinc meteor]

and it should get saved to rtx.conf

[jade briar]

I'll check right now

[zinc meteor]

great

[jade briar]

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/198

Also this issue

[zinc meteor]

might be the same. What I think you're seeing is instances being chosen wrong between frames - a new instance comes in and takes over an old instance, then that old instance has to take another old instance, and every instance that get swapped registers a fast movement. which would show up as a flicker.

That's supposed to be prevented by making a max movement distance between frames, but if that value is set too large then it won't work.

The ideal value probalby depends on your game units. If you go too small fast moving objects will flicker every frame, and if you go to big then I think it'll cause the behavior you're seeing

[jade briar]

@zinc meteor

Take a look. There's also something really weird happening when you stay still. I have never tested it while staying still, so I guess that's a thing now.

[surreal ruin]

Can we just make the mod celshaded instead?

This looks fucking awesome

[jade briar]

Celshade nfs?

nahhhhhhh

Not feeling it

[zinc meteor]

well, it looks like turning it to 1 at least fixed the problems with the bridge cable link thingies, so it's an improvement.

[jade briar]

Yeah

I'll test it out with the debug view disabled to see if it improves the light flickering

[zinc meteor]

not sure what was going on with the sky or those trees, or with those full frame flickers

[jade briar]

Like this

[zinc meteor]

how low can you go before the car flickers every frame when driving around?

[jade briar]

Lemme check

[jade briar]

So what am I looking for exactly?

[zinc meteor]

well does the car turn into a flickery blurry mess, or does it still look the same?

does the lighting on the car still look good, or does it get really blurry

[jade briar]

Wait so

[zinc meteor]

also does motion blur still work on it

(or just go into the debug view and check if the motion vectors are always black)

[jade briar]

Is the car supposed to not have any motion vectors?

[zinc meteor]

The car is moving, so it should have motion vectors

[jade briar]

Oh flickering when staying still

[zinc meteor]

if you turn the search distance down too low, then Remix will think it's a new instance every frame (when the car is moving) and it will lose the motion vectors

nah, you need to have the car moving to test if the instance matching is still working

basically, the objectSearchDistance is the distance in game units that an object can move in a single frame, and still be considered the same object.

[jade briar]

right

[zinc meteor]

Ideally we should be accounting for time as well, and in the future we might try to account for velocity, but so far position has worked well enough

[jade briar]

Well, it looks like even setting it to one cm still causes flickering on certain objects. Not as many as before, but they are still there.

Also looks like 2.5 cm is the max I can do before the car disappears because it's going too fast

But that number is gonna be different since different cars go at different speeds

So a really fast car would require the number to be raised higher

It also looks like many other objects that aren't supposed to have motion vectors like the trees and the sky, also disappear when the car gets too fast

So are the trees and the sky tied to the car in some way?

Also these motion vectors that show up when the car is staying still are actually just mirror surfaces relecting the flickery sky

[zinc meteor]

It occurs to me looking at that, that all of those trees should just be black. None of them are moving

[jade briar]

Actually they are swaying VERY slowly

But the sky

[zinc meteor]

so, turning it down from 10000000 to 1 looks like it fixes a lot of the flickering issues, and turning it down more than that doesn't really change anything

[jade briar]

Yep

[zinc meteor]

so may as well stick with 1 or something around there. maybe tune it later if you run into issues like this.
Separately, I'm guessing the sky is tied to your car somehow, it appears to move at the exact same rate.

And it'd be worth figuring out why the stop lights and trees have motion vectors at all

[jade briar]

I have a relatively slow car, so setting it to 2.5 cm works best. However, I don't know how much I'll need to increase it with a much faster car

[zinc meteor]

if there is a sway programmed into them, then I'd expect the motion vectors to change color as they sway back adn forth

You don't need to be super conservative with that

unless you have a bunch of matching instances all really close together that start flickering a bunch

(like right now the biggest problem I saw were the bridge cable links, which are probably a couple meters apart)

[jade briar]

right. So I guess the sky and the trees are supposed to be moving. That leaves the very few objects that pop up every once a while

[jade briar]

Would this be the same issue?

These railings are all instanced from one mesh

So I assume since the game is relying so heavily on instanced meshes all lined up right next to each other, it confuses the renderer into thinking it's just one object that made a big jump

[ember cobalt]

that does look exactly like the issue i experienced

[zinc meteor]

yep, sounds likely. the problem should really only happen when the draw order changes and/or new instances load in.

so if those are 4 meters long (wild guess), you probably want the search distance to be less than half of that

[ember river]

When one captures a scene without setting the sky as sky texture, it shows a 15km wide sphere in USD composer which is moving with the camera

Maybe that is the reason why the sky has non-zero motion vecors

[zinc meteor]

which means it's moving relative to the world, so the motion vectors check out. Not sure why it's flickering when still tho...

could be that we're normalizing the vectors when we display them, and normalizing a vector that's nearly 0 just gives us floating point error or something

[jade briar]

Yeah, I figured

Also if you play the base game, you can see that the sky is not perfectly still

[zinc meteor]

I've heard Barnyard has similar issues, could you try this out there too?

[surreal ruin]

It's very common for old games to attach the skydomes to the camera as they couldn't render the meshes as infinitely huge

Distance fog usually hid this

[ember cobalt]

rtx.uniqueObjectDistance, right? sure

[zinc meteor]

yep. there's a slider for it in the parameter tuning UI

[jade briar]

So that means this is a balancing act where I need to find a magic number that doesn't cause instanced, close by objects to be confused as one, and really fast moving objects to be considered as separate objects every frane

[surreal ruin]

We do also know that the skydome currently suffers from vertex impresision jittering

[ember cobalt]

which debug view are you using here?

[zinc meteor]

yep. there should be a pretty decent range that will work well (like it sounds like NFSU2 should just need something between 2.5 cm and 2 meters), though I can think of some torture cases that would really need a more powerful system for it (like a vending maching spawning cans of soda that all fall into a pile, next to a fast moving train).

[jade briar]

Virtual motion vectors

[zinc meteor]

Or a skyrim player dropping cheese into a giant pile...

[ember cobalt]

just for clarification, this is the issue present in Barnyard

[jade briar]

[surreal ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-for-everyone-celebration-sheogorath-oblivion-cheese-gif-17388331

[zinc meteor]

I need to run, could yall update the github issues if this works out?

[jade briar]

Sure

Thank you so much. This was one of the most annoying bugs in the game

I wonder if the search distance is affected by the scene scale property

[ember cobalt]

i was about to mention that scene scale may play a part in this. so far, no values i've tried seem to help in Barnyard. 0 difference. but the game's captures are also insanely tiny (i have to change the camera speed in composer to 0.05 to move around it), so it may be an issue related to that

[jade briar]

Yeah seems like it

[jade briar]

You can get pretty granular with the search distance value, so go as low

Hell, start with 0

If everything is correct, then no objects should show up

Then you can start going up in tiny amount

[ember cobalt]

no objects would show up in the normal view, without debug enabled?

[jade briar]

Debug

Go up until moving objects have vectors and static objects don't

[ember cobalt]

yeah, i went up to 10000000 and it's exactly the same

[jade briar]

Nono

[ember cobalt]

correction:
yeah, i went from 0 to 10000000 and it's exactly the same. lots of values in between

[jade briar]

Even at 0?

[ember cobalt]

yep

[jade briar]

Guess that's a different issue then

MARK!

[ember cobalt]

scene scale made no difference btw. changed that quite a lot too

well, i'm glad progress was made here at least

[jade briar]

Are you sure you also tested setting it all the way to 0?

Also do test out other games that are havin the same issue

[ember cobalt]

lowest it goes is 0.010. i set it to 0 in the video, you can see it snap to 0.010

[ember cobalt]

i'll see if i can do so

the other main one i saw it in was Skyrim

[ember cobalt]

i can confirm that the fix above does not fix Skyrim either

[jade briar]

It's perfect for me now

You can see flickering especially at 0:15

[vague sparrow]

So motion vectors got fixed?

[jade briar]

Hey, we figured out a proper fix for the flickering issues

[jade briar]

yes

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/297

@zinc meteor, I closed the issue report

thx again

[ember cobalt]

well dang. was really hoping this would fix the other games 😦

[ember cobalt]

glad this was an easy fix though. looks great now

[zinc meteor]

I think it still might. it's definitely not multiplied by scene scale

[ember cobalt]

i'm not sure what else to test with it. i used a very wide range of values and saw no improvement

[zinc meteor]

are you set up to compile dxvk-remix?

[ember cobalt]

sadly i'm not. last time i tried to compile it, i ran into many errors. i can give it another shot though

[zinc meteor]

well, the 0.01 limit is only in the ui, so if you set it to 0.00001 in the rtx.conf then launch your game it should work (as long as you don't change it in the UI)

[jade briar]

You can actually go to 0

Things stop having vectors after you do so

[zinc meteor]

0... may break other things. we might divide by it at some point

[ember cobalt]

ah, okay. i'll try it

turns out i had the wrong version of Meson, probably why building failed for me

[vague sparrow]

Whats the least possible limit for scene scale

[zinc meteor]

um, minimum value for a float? though I expect that would cause lots of rounding errors

[ember cobalt]

i tried all the way down to 0.0000000000001 (started with the value you mentioned), and unfortunately there's still no difference

[zinc meteor]

probably a different problem then, unfortunately

[ember cobalt]

well, i appreciate the help regardless

[surreal ruin]

WAIT HUH! This has been a blocker for me in SH2! I thought it didn't go lower! Let's goooo

[soft zinc]

Hey, back after about 2 months. Any major changes to UG2 since then?

[vague sparrow]

it's all private now, but there's definitely progress being made

can't say when they'll come up with update news

[soft zinc]

Private? What do you mean?

[timid prairie]

They don't share process acitvely here now, they've created separate private server where they disscusing things and etc. And only sometimes dropping their progress here

[jade briar]

Flickery lighting got fixed

[vague sparrow]

please

[ember river]

u2 rtx is still under pandemics atm

[vague sparrow]

also wondering how you guys review the new changes

[jade briar]

Uh. After the changes have sat in the list for long enough, two people decide to just merge them because why not.

We're really not super organized right now

It's fine tho

We'll get serious after getting sponsored by nvidia

[vague sparrow]

and when will that occur

[jade briar]

Idk

[ember river]

idk how others in the team do it. I like to hop on the branch and first make sure it is up to date with whatever we have in the main branch before reviewing (rebasing with master, in git terms), and then open the game and check what is going on, if nothing is broken, and lastly I take a look at the USD(a) files, structure and such to see if there aren't inconsistencies that could cause a problem, or some deviations from our guidelines

[jade briar]

But we do have plans to remake the mod USDA with the toolkit

[ember river]

But yeah, there isn't much of an organization, most of this is all eyeballed from the top of our heads

[jade briar]

I don't have eyeballs on the top of my head

[soft zinc]

I never recall that being a problem 😅

Wait, did you mean you improved the denoiser?

[jade briar]

No lights would randomly flicker while driving

[soft zinc]

Icic

Performance is more or less the same I take it?

[jade briar]

Yep

[solid cloak]

Hi!

Will this run smoothly on steam deck?

[surreal ruin]

Dear god no

The steam deck runs an AMD gpu, an RTX card is basically a must have to get this to even remotely work

[solid cloak]

It supports ray tracing and doom with rt, metro and quake 2 rtx works well on it @surreal ruin

You have no idea lmao

If anyone is answering, make sure you have the knowledge

[surreal ruin]

But I do know :/

The deck isn't capable of running the remix runtime

It's not about being able to use RT or not, RTXremix relies on very specific tech in order to hijack a games rendering and actually make this whole thing work

Even high end desktop NVIDIA gpu's currently struggle with preformance

[solid cloak]

Have you tested it or have you any proof

[leaden wyvern]

Plus the Deck is incredibly weak on the GPU. It's not even worth considering.

[solid cloak]

Okay ill try it out myself then

[surreal ruin]

The deck runs on RDNA 2.0 too right?

[solid cloak]

These answers are unusually stupid

[solid cloak]

Ye

[surreal ruin]

Yeah it's not built for RDNA 2.0

[surreal ruin]

And just because you aren't hearing the answer you want, don't go calling people stupid

Who the heck are you to JUST join a server and instantly start throwing insults around?

The actual fuck mate

[solid cloak]

Its none of your business who i am

[leaden wyvern]

CDP's Steam Deck preset for The Witcher 3 doesn't enable a single RT feature, and the target there is 30fps.

Actually, let me double check that target.

[solid cloak]

Pardon is there a video that shows a tutorial on how to do rtx remix?

I never messed with this

[surreal ruin]

I would've helped you if you weren't such a douche

[solid cloak]

It's fine

Ill show progress tomorrow

[surreal ruin]

We're building this mod on top of RTXremix, which is the same tools used to develop PortalRTX

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/zgascz/for_those_wondering_yes_the_steam_deck_runs/

So all you gotta do is check if PortalRTX runs

If it doesn't, this won't

[solid cloak]

This is old tho

Ill see

[surreal ruin]

The steamdecks GPU hasn't magically gained RTX tech that it didn't have before

[solid cloak]

Btw what's the minimum requirement?

[surreal ruin]

Any kind of RTX gpu, 3060 is recommended for the lower tiers but even those won't get you far

[solid cloak]

Is the 4090 able to provide 1080p ultra?

[surreal ruin]

Most people getting stable preformances are on 3070's and up

[solid cloak]

With these remixes

[surreal ruin]

Impossible to really say, it depends entirely on the mod itself and what it does, if it's replacing all assets or just doing basic lighting etc

Our NFSU2 mod is still in extremely early development, we've not established any min specs yet

[solid cloak]

I see i see

Very interesting

[surreal ruin]

But basically

If you're not on an RTX GPU, you'll see frames in the sub 10's

[ember cobalt]

with more recent AMD drivers, performance with Remix does seem to have improved quite a bit

[solid cloak]

Yeah

[ember cobalt]

but you'll definitely be using the very lowest settings + the smallest resolution possible on a Steam Deck for maybe 20 FPS

it's not gonna look good or play well

[solid cloak]

Fuck Nvidia

Ngl

[trail quail]

Why?

[ember cobalt]

this is just due to AMD's lacking RT performance, lol. Nvidia didn't cause it

[solid cloak]

Because what they do is scam

[trail quail]

But it's not

[ember cobalt]

AMD falls behind in basically every game that utilizes RT

[surreal ruin]

I'm so fucking sick of these newbies joining with these attitudes

[tawny elk]

Take it to #offtopic pls.

[ember cobalt]

yeah, sorry

[solid cloak]

Anyway. Already interested in how the switch 2 running Linux via a jailbreak will run RTX stuff.

Im almost certain it will use the newest tech possible including frame gen

[ember cobalt]

to #offtopic we go

[tawny elk]

All good. Just wanted to prevent it from spreading.

[trail quail]

Yeah FCK nvidia, but cuz of the drivers for Linux, IM TALKING ABOUT YOU WAYLAND!

But other than that, I like it

They're doing a rly good job fr

With newest updates, they bring Wayland closer and closer to the usable state

And the games performance is rly good in the last years

Still some performance issue with ray tracing, but in rasterization almost the same

[trail quail]

I do on 3080, even on Linux

Sorry, I just screwed into the conversation randomly

[trail quail]

But if the scene has a lot of polygons, fps will drop significantly ( does not happen on windows lol )

[jade briar]

Interesting

[timid prairie]

Linux has other logic as i see

[solid cloak]

No it doesn't

It translates into windows "logic" anyway

It's more of a translation issue than anything else

[tawny elk]

More of an #offtopic sorta thing

[halcyon cape]

im a little lost on the installation, do you need to compile bridge-remix yourself? (sorry if this is a dumb question lol)

[jade briar]

no

https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1132988164814934167

Use this

[halcyon cape]

Thanks!

[jade briar]

Color grading

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165374943991709811/1198098466627391610/image.png?ex=65bdab26&is=65ab3626&hm=75dbef80948b441430213fecd41d507fdd3ab0d7de69ebc77efbc2c18daaca82&

[vague sparrow]

is this reshade?

[jade briar]

yes

[bright hedge]

looks like nfs 2015

or gives that vibe

[west mango]

is there any way that i can use my gtx 1650 or do i specificly need an rtx GPU

[jade briar]

an rtx gpu is required

[west mango]

aight thats what i thought thank you

[west mango]

heres what i got the game to without RTX Remix still happy with the outcome hopefully i can get an RTX GPU here soon

[bright hedge]

pretty solid from this scerenshot tbh, whats the mod name?

[snow coral]

Can a 6950 xt run nfsu2 with the remix mod?

[slender arch]

Try and see

AMD sucks at path tracing perfomance ig

[ember cobalt]

AMD seems to have improved performance through drivers, so maybe. a 7600 XT can get ~30-40 FPS apparently on Medium in Portal RTX

[rain nova]

I thinks its the NFS UNDERGROUND 2 - UNREAL MOD 2023 v1.0

[snow coral]

yeah but 7000 series have newer rt cores

So I guess il have to try it out myself

rt works decently in most games but idk about path tracing

[rain nova]

I was thinking about recreating the NFSU2 textures using the source textures, just for preservation

Like RoSA from GTA SA

at the moment I'm doing this with the textures from Silent Hill 2, It looks pretty cool... it doesn't compare to the RTX Remix, but maybe for entry-level PCs...

[snow coral]

Doesn’t that take a lot of time?

Would be amazing tho

[rain nova]

Yes, it takes time to recreate the modified ones, but some have almost no changes

[west mango]

i have quite a few but the main one came from here go to free mods and pinned messages
https://discord.gg/cuP8vYER

[bright hedge]

ah, gametest xD

didnt he want to charge for it?

mostly using other mods compiled into a modpack

with slight changes

[ember cobalt]

he was here before and it turned into a huge mess. please just don't discuss their packs here

[west mango]

yeah most are but there is a free one

[west mango]

aight

ill stop

[sinful bluff]

Hi, new here. I'm getting too low fps with a RTX3060 12GB

[slender arch]

try dlss ultra perfomance

[sinful bluff]

Improved to 40-50Fps

But GPU use is at only 44% lol

Well, it goes around 40-50%

[jade briar]

Ah. Gametest. Annoying mf.

[balmy chasm]

This is expected result though

[gusty granite]

hi guys ,where i can get dxvk remix please ? i tried this github link https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/ but i didn't find the release to download

[ember cobalt]

you get it from this: #remix-beginners-guide message

[gusty granite]

found it! thank you

[prime rose]

Just wanted to say that I appreciate the work you guys are putting into NFSU2 Remix, as I silently lurk and await eventual completion 🙂

[balmy chasm]

You gotta wait long 😅 More modders will be super helpful

[slender sail]

off topic but what is that filter button near the map?

[surreal ruin]

Absolutely no clue!

[slender sail]

i've played the game for so long but i haven't even seen that text appear near my mini map screen

[ember river]

iirc is when you open the map menu "M" and filter which kind of shops/events you want to show

[teal wolf]

Hey is pathtracing dlss 3.5 out in rtx remix?

[ember cobalt]

sadly no

[wispy drum]

what is the latest version for the game in rtx? i used the stick messages and have the 0.3 version i think

from 4 5 months ago

is there a new one with frame generation in it?

[jade briar]

You can just update remix itself

[wispy drum]

how can i do that? and it will add frame generation in the game too?

[jade briar]

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/releases/tag/remix-0.4.0

[wispy drum]

thank you so much as always my friend

[jade briar]

Just download this and drop the files in the game directory

[wispy drum]

thank you

[surreal ruin]

I see Hachiroku, I show up

[jade briar]

It's a civic

[surreal ruin]

OOOOH

OOOOH YOOOOU

YOUUOOU!

[jade briar]

[surreal ruin]

I'm gonna shingo you so hard

[jade briar]

Can't with a civic

[surreal ruin]

Shingo drives a civic you goon

[jade briar]

oh...

Well

I don't watch anime

sooooooooo

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[surreal ruin]

You're missing out ❤️ Initial D is so damned good

[jade briar]

No time

I goon all day

[surreal ruin]

Banned!

https://tenor.com/view/yor-yor-anime-angry-yor-angry-anime-anime-angry-gif-12180248608896266854

[jade briar]

You called me that

[surreal ruin]

Yeah but like, I didn't mean THAT kind of goon!

A goon just used to be like, a hooligan!

[jade briar]

That man is dead

But I'm still alive'

so uh

[surreal ruin]

Fair enough, I admit defeat

[rain nova]

next step for you guys

👍

[vague sparrow]

Initial D but with trains

[lilac lotus]

[fair crystal]

Wait, densha de D: lightning stage only uses shader model 2.0, has anyone tested it? 🤔

[misty pebble]

Glad the work is being done, but got a question:

When will the next build update be released for UG2? I don't have any headlights and it's hard to see

[hazy sedge]

enable auto exposure in settings

it'll come up with okay-ish result

[balmy chasm]

You better crank up sky brightness instead of using AE

[hazy sedge]

I know but I honestly did not find that option

[balmy chasm]

It is the Dev tab I believe

[misty pebble]

Aight, I'll do those. Thanks

[hazy sedge]

Dev Settings? I don't find anything like that

[balmy chasm]

or Game setup

[hazy sedge]

Gotcha!

[balmy chasm]

Yeah. Start with 50

[hazy sedge]

but this kinda ruined the night racing feel to the game though

[wispy drum]

updated yesterday the NFS in 0.4 remix version and got the DLSS frame generation working fine got over 80fps with dlss quality at 3440x1440 with a 4070ti. but i got a lot of crashing mostly in the menu

is something i need to do to fix these crashes?

[jade briar]

That might be frame gen related. Play the game in fullscreen and disable any overlays that you might have open

[pure ravine]

Hellow somebody know something about play on Xbox setup?

[surreal ruin]

Not possible

[dapper root]

Hey guys, did u get access to the beta rtx remix before it got officially launched?

[jade briar]

Huh

[sacred yarrow]

rtx remix you're referring is probably the runtime which is around for over a year now

the one launched recently is the toolkit

[vale arrow]

so i have installed everything in order but all the roads,trees are greyed out and cars are completely red. Seems custom assets arent loading properly

[dapper root]

Yes sorry, that's the one I meant

[vale arrow]

all good i figured it out

[jade briar]

I won't speak for anyone else, but yes, I had the toolkit early access

[dapper root]

I see, makes sense

[wispy drum]

Will try thank you.

because i have msi afterburner open

[jade briar]

@sacred yarrow Can you use your reverse engineering expertise to help a little?

[sacred yarrow]

When I become a RE expert lol

I no reverse engineer

Adam is

xoxor4d is

[jade briar]

I've seen you do crazy stuff with cod 2, chess, and others

Wondering if you're able to get rid of some functions

[sacred yarrow]

Sorry but as I said, I have no RE experience. CoD 2 was scripting, what I do with chess titans is fairly basic

[jade briar]

Alright

I'll keep looking

[sacred yarrow]

There is BlueAmulet who made the culling + crash fix patches for hl2 and gmod

Haven't seen him around for some time tho

[jade briar]

uh

who?

I don't even remember the name

[sacred yarrow]

@ BlueAmulet

literally

[jade briar]

ah

@static niche You there? Need some help with patching some stuff

Now we wait

[ember cobalt]

what are you trying to do?

[jade briar]

Just patch some culling and lod related stuff.

[static niche]

What I did for gmod was attempt to find what newly added/modified convars in portal rtx did and replicate the change to gmod. The structured nature of the source engine made that easy.

I doubt I'll be able to do anything for this game

[compact crystal]

Hi,
I tried to get Remix working in NFSU2 using both the instructions from here https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NFSU2-RTX-Remix, and also with the newer remix-0.4.0. Without any rtx.conf, the game starts, but no raytracing. With the rtx.conf from the mentioned repo, the game starts and is stuck at a black screen. All tries have the error "info: [RTX-Compatibility-Info] Trying to raytrace but not detecting a valid camera." in "speed2_d3d9.log". Any ideas?

[jade briar]

Just wait a day or two

Working on an update

Installing should be much easier

[compact crystal]

Nice, Thanks

[cobalt peak]

Damn you still work on it

Thought RTX Remix would be overcooked by now

[surreal ruin]

We never stopped, we just had to get a little more organized and are doing dev in a private server.

Having one single discord channel to do all all our work in just wasn't really working

[jade briar]

once in a while, yeah

[jade briar]

Greenhouse

I know it isn't supposed to be green

Also the game crashed in the end because frame gen is garbage

[spiral fable]

let me be clear on this, was the video lagging ?

[desert ridge]

Enabling FG is causing the game to crash, which wasn't happening before. I'm not sure what's causing this issue.

[jade briar]

no

[spiral fable]

so it's just my internet being shit XDDDDD

[jade briar]

probably

[balmy chasm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1165396161922879538/1201569640401350726/image.png?ex=65ca4bee&is=65b7d6ee&hm=40467f767d937f0eaab935477bda63ddf2c2ac7af55c9bcd9f50d1d305bad6e6&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1060&height=428
testing unoptimised way of adding those bumps on glass

[cobalt peak]

Man you need to stop cooking

[slender arch]

Let burrito cook become hes best chef on this project

He can make NFS u2 very delicious

[zinc raven]

is underground files removed in this place?

#1103377328530276403 message

this doesnt lead to anywhere or discord is broken again

[ember cobalt]

discord's fault

https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NFSU2-RTX-Remix

[twin sandal]

Hi

Any updates?

When it be playable?

I like the old school design, but i always wanted modern and high graphics, also high framerates.

I'm 3060 Ti Ryzen 5700X future 5800X3D

[marble creek]

No one knows

[twin sandal]

I seen the github up, and it is installable nowm

Lmao

Next step, download NFSU2

A Dream come True

[marble creek]

It would be nice to live up to a working runtime and toolkit first

[marble creek]

Well, it's not an indicator of playability or readiness

[twin sandal]

Mmmm but i want it to try

[surreal ruin]

It IS playable and people CAN download it right now.

The toolkit and runtime is working awesome, and no it's nowhere near done, but we are releasing builds from time to time for people to test.

These are community made projects created by hobbyists, stop being so darned negative all the time.

[marble creek]

I wasn't talking about any kind of end. I'm saying that the current state is more like a game for an enthusiast, but not for the average player with the paradigm of "download, set the right settings in the simplified menu and go from start to finish without artifacts and bugs" (or at least 1 level or race in our case). At the moment, no community project has reached such a state, and that's okay, because there is beta testing of everything, from the runtime to the toolkit

Regarding the work of the toolkit and runtime - yes, there is progress and it is very significant, but the final stage is still a long way off

So I'm more looking to dispel inflated expectations than trying to be negative

[marble creek]

By the way, I forgot, playability is not the absence of bugs, but also completeness of content. In our case, it's the complete replacement of all the assets we wanted to replace

[zinc raven]

do I just start the game from remix app?

opening the game normally doesnt work

[surreal ruin]

Playability has nothing to do with whether we've completed the new art assets or not, playability refers to how playable something is, it's in the name.

I can make a new game and make it 100 % playable with just placeholder dev assets.

[surreal ruin]

You don't need the remix app to just play the mod, you just start the game normally

If that doesn't work then you haven't installed the mod correctly

[zinc raven]

I see after replacing the remix files again it started working

[surreal ruin]

Great!

[zinc raven]

couldnt find how to add metalic textures to cars

so theres that

[surreal ruin]

You kind of can't

[zinc raven]

ah rats