NFSU2 (Need For Speed Underground 2)

[tawny elk]

Ya only need to do it like 4 times for a curve unless it's a hero asset

[cloud crypt]

when i extrude small curves the object gets flat

i used the spin tool for the curves

[tawny elk]

Set it smooth shade

[ember river]

I'd recommend this series for anyone trying to master the basics of blender tools and techniques
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tdUxzhEy_E&list=PLjEaoINr3zgHJVJF3T3CFUAZ6z11jKg6a

[cloud crypt]

not the donut one? XD

[ember river]

I've learned a lot from it myself, haven't watched the donut one though, but this one is good

[cloud crypt]

i also used the spin tool for the neon mesh XD

[tawny elk]

[cloud crypt]

and when i created it i forget to bevel the endings XD

[jade briar]

One of these days. I'll do the hard surface course from creative shrimp

I've had it downloaded for years

[cloud crypt]

but as i said im thankful for every tipp i can get

[tawny elk]

Honestly, I find watching how others just model things way better than tutorials. Like speedmodeling/speedpainting.

[balmy chasm]

Please don't use booleans. Save your sanity for later

[tawny elk]

But they make topology and UVs so. much. fun.

[desert ridge]

First, I create the basic shape of the stairs and then round the edges by beveling them. After that, I extrude each step by 20cm at a time. In 3dsmax, it's easy to create stairs with this style, but I'm not sure how to efficiently achieve the same result in Blender. Therefore, I resort to using a less efficient topPoly modeling method.

[ember river]

I don't use either, only on very controlled pieces, like those holes on the jersey barriers

[ember river]

In blender you can use array modifiers to quickly repeat offset stair steps and add a bezier curve on top to make the previous mesh follow the stair path

[desert ridge]

He is the person who convinced me to switch from 3dsmax to Blender. He is really talented.

[balmy chasm]

We're not commenting this 🥲

[desert ridge]

It follows the curve, but each side has the same size. I actually need different sizes for each side, so it doesn't fit the situation properly.

[tawny elk]

Personally, I model everything with actual clay, and then use photogrammetry to create a 3d model of it. Then if the polycount is too high, just add some decimation to it.

[cloud crypt]

smth more like that?

[cloud crypt]

what da heck XD

[tawny elk]

Try keeping the thickness conistent throughout the bend

[cloud crypt]

sheer impossible... dont how how to do that with extrude

[tawny elk]

Try just tracing the texture and then extrude it.

[ember river]

Try this:
1 - Make a simple step model
2 - Add an array modifier like this
3 - Make a bezier curve (keep its origin at 0,0,0, same for your stair model's origin), draw it the shape you want it to be curved
4 - Add the curve modifier on top of the stair mesh

[ember river]

wdym?

[cloud crypt]

got it a bit thicker through fatten

[desert ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=65&v=85XeqBJw2cQ&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fembed%2F85XeqBJw2cQ&source_ve_path=MTM5MTE3LDEzOTExNywyMzg1MQ&feature=emb_title&ab_channel=Rytelier

I found a geometry node that meets my requirements, and it's available for just $7.🤔

[tawny elk]

What's the texture hash for that lamp? EB17A6ABC3E39A52

[cloud crypt]

i think i got it now

[ember river]

@cloud crypt you can start with a simpler general shape and iteratively add more details while preserving the overall topology neatly, like this:
1 - Make a simple long bar
2 - Use Ctrl+R and mouse scroll to add 2 loop cuts
3 - Move the upper side upwards
4 - Use Ctrl+R to add enclosing loop cuts around the curves like this (4th pic)
5 - Select only the curve edges
6 - Hit Ctrl+B to bevel the edge shape, and mouse scroll to add more bevel loop cuts

[desert ridge]

I know the array feature can make objects follow a curve, and I'm using it to replace the railroad and road railings in GTASA. I'm also setting up a stress test scene in Remix to compare light objects versus light meshes/textures. After the 3.0 release, my plan is to do mesh replacements in the NFSU2 tunnel as well.

[ember river]

Arrays + Curves are awesome

[cloud crypt]

but the middle one gets thinner then too

[ember river]

Oh, I see. You want to preserve the thickness. You can eyeball that one if high precision isn't necessary by moving it to make a diagonal curve

[balmy chasm]

MY TURN

[ember river]

Oh yeah, thats sweet

[balmy chasm]

that's "extrude the plane method" with beveling those 2 edges and extruding all the mesh in once

[ember river]

Much better also

This would preserve an even thickness along the piece

[tawny elk]

Also very easy to UV map

[cloud crypt]

this method doesnt work for me, blender does some random shit

[desert ridge]

That's a similar method to how I made the stairs.

[balmy chasm]

Then you made them solid 👍

[ember river]

Weird. What kind of stuff?

[cloud crypt]

blender goes like this

[desert ridge]

I believe you need to merge some vertices.

[ember river]

Weird, not sure what you have selected when using Ctrl+B

[desert ridge]

press m > by distance

[cloud crypt]

these

but then this happens

even though i selected all 4 vertics

[ember river]

You should select something like in this setup

[ember river]

https://tenor.com/view/tiny-text-cant-see-ken-jeong-gif-5957945

I can't see by this image what is going on, too tiny

[jade briar]

I model everything at a molecular level

[ember cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/bacteria-diatom-micro-gif-26145846

[jade briar]

Just like this

[desert ridge]

Wow, you are God Level modeler!

[jade briar]

thx

[desert ridge]

Oh no, I just realized why my stair was not working correctly with the curve. I mistakenly raised the Z axis of the curve when I actually wanted it to stay at zero level. I'm frustrated with myself for not trying more before, and I feel foolish for wasting so much time on modeling the stair incorrectly.

Thanks @ember river you save my life

[cloud crypt]

well, i got it for the inner one... but the outter edges wont bevel now...

i think that should work

Any thoughts?

[ember river]

How is the topology?

[desert ridge]

maybe press Ctrl + A > all Transform then try bevel again

[cloud crypt]

Im eating rn, i tell you after that

[desert ridge]

Try select all vertices/edges you want to bevel at the same time.

If you do it separately, the problem will occur.

[jade briar]

Oh my god

Tose bevels

💀

[cloud crypt]

common burrito, im still learning...

[desert ridge]

After some encouragement from us, I am confident that you can become skilled in detailed modeling within a month.

[cloud crypt]

a month... sounds like a long time span XD

[cloud crypt]

doesnt work for me

[desert ridge]

Believe me, modeling is much easier than texturing. Sometimes, improving modeling skills is simply about finding more efficient ways to create.

[desert ridge]

It appears that the model has been scaled. Have you tried using the shortcut Ctrl+A > All Transform in "object mode"?

[cloud crypt]

now it works, scaling wasnt applied correctly

thx

how do i get these now konnected?

found it

with loop cut + extrude i could get it

[desert ridge]

Using loop cut and snapping can greatly assist in accomplishing various tasks.

[cloud crypt]

but how do i bevel it now

[desert ridge]

Sometimes, you need to check if there are double faces inside your mesh after "connecting" the vertices. This is because visually connecting them may not actually establish a proper connection. Otherwise, you might encounter issues when using bevel. Additionally, the topPoly method is not suitable for beveling, so you need to create hard corners like this.

press the "G" key twice and enable Auto Merge at the upper right corner. Then, move the vertices to the desired side for merging.

[cloud crypt]

did it manually XD

[desert ridge]

Great job! Now you have the skills to create props.😉

The spin tool is also useful for creating props like street lights.

I have to go to sleep now. Have a great time modeling!

[cloud crypt]

Haha, i have to sleep too, have to work in 8 hours

gn8 guys, and thx for the help, very appreciated

[safe fossil]

Can't yall just remove the verts on one side so only a flat plane shape is left > alt j to get quads, maybe clean up a lil if the og topology was extra wack and then extrude/ solidify and have the actual profile of the shape to work with?

For them lamps

Also this does not look like half a sphere cut, it reads like a cup with the top part being the only thing rounded off

[cloud crypt]

No

The old models are still shit and low poly... many details missings

[safe fossil]

Ok and?

The read of the form is separate from detail

[cloud crypt]

I only will stay as close to the original as need to be. Otherwise we could just continue to use the old meshes...

[timid prairie]

cinematic experience

[safe fossil]

You can add more polies to a model without completely destroying it's look and feel. With how undirected this project is, it's gonna end up looking like an incoherent mess by the end of it if everybody just wings it and does whatever floats their boat, trying to "improve" things. If you wanna preserve the look of the og, with your inexperience, i'd really stick to matching the og game as much as possible to reduce guessing

[cloud crypt]

Then shut up and leave

I always ask the other contributors if it fits. Same with the windows in the lobby, same for the platform textures, same for the cityscape. Im interested in keeping the art style while giving it a more suitable flare. I literally safed the Lobby from looking like complete shit which didnt looked like the original game at all

[safe fossil]

Bruv, you're free to do whatever you want, but don't get pissy over critique, this is a public place meant for discussion

[restive magnet]

@cloud crypt where does this lamp come from? maybe you could google some references, looks like something out of a NYC subway

[cloud crypt]

Its the lobby lamp

[restive magnet]

This one looks a bit similar, just google some.old street lamps and make your model based on them

[cloud crypt]

They arent looking similar. The lobby lamp has an lower arm with upper support.

[restive magnet]

I meant the style, i'd guess that the lobby buildings are based on old industrial areas

Pretty often industrial estate is being rented off to businees and for garage use, at least that's what original game lobby reminds me of

[cloud crypt]

Ah ok

[vague sparrow]

Displacement offset is high

Turn it down to 0.2

[restive magnet]

That looks nice, but your displacement is too strong, that cobblestone looks more like a carpet

[bright hedge]

interesting look

[cloud crypt]

wait what, why nobody told me about that XD

https://youtube.com/shorts/T1UadUZ_6vo?si=U6Tcik7YhrrRqEzF

[jade briar]

Oh yeah

That's a thing

[mossy pelican]

where can i find

some sort of

changelog

just an overview of the progress you guys are making

don't have time to read all this daily

but still find very interesting

[humble niche]

The GitHub has a commit history every time new changes are pushed that shows a comment as well as what files changed.

[ember river]

We have a github repository as mentioned by @humble niche , https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NFSU2-RTX-Remix
As well as a GitHub Projects board with tasks we're working and planning
https://github.com/users/Ekozmaster/projects/1

[sick ginkgo]

does it support other scripts like nfs extra options etc.?

[jade briar]

Yes

But only script mods

But no visual mods

They'll break the game

[cloud crypt]

somehow it looks different (kinda better) after i installed latest bridge and dxvk, is that caused by SSS?

[misty meteor]

Woah!

[sick ginkgo]

visual mods like?

[timid prairie]

HD Reflections i guess

[vague sparrow]

HD reflections are just bumping up the planar reflection resolution and refresh rate

[plain stag]

Hmm Thats looks good

[surreal ruin]

Shouldn't be, SSS isn't enabled on every surface by default, it's an effect you want to use sparingly only where you have to

[ember river]

@cloud crypt some refs for your walls

[cloud crypt]

pls.. im not that good in modelling and still learning when you refered to modelling

[ember river]

Here are some lamp refs too

[sick ginkgo]

for some reason

the game doesn't even run

i mean the game doesn't open

but their's an existing instance of the game running (which i find from the task manager everytime and end task)

is there any thing i can do to fix

standard version of nfsu2 does run perfect

but not the rtx remix version

keeping in mind i followed the exact same steps

and uh, has no mods except for the widescreen fix (as shown in the tutorial)

[jade briar]

U probably got something wrong

Do you have an RTX card?

[vague sparrow]

The game sometimes doesn't run if you don't have core affinity set to 1 or 0

Game likes to use only 1 core

[jade briar]

Widescren patch fixes that

[vapid gust]

had a similar issue today, where i couldn't install the mod from scratch (crashes immediately at first intro cutscene) , but i could update an existing instance from a couple months ago and it worked fine

[sick ginkgo]

ofc

my game doesn't even open

just an instance runs which i need to close from the task manager everytime

this is a widescreen patch issue

if i had to remove the widescreen fix, is there any other step to follow?

my other games too doesn't run when i use widescreen fix

but without it, the game runs fine

[vapid gust]

I left the lights behind because why the hell not (weight reduction bro)

[sick ginkgo]

can you send me your copy

[sick ginkgo]

of the game

i wanna test

just to check

and make sure

you can upload and share me a gdrive link to download

pls

[ember river]

Make sure to follow server guidelines, which include not sharing game files without proper licensing

[vague sparrow]

Take this to dm if anyone wants to help

this server might get a bad rep with irresponsibly sharing game files

[sick ginkgo]

alright

[trail quail]

Sorry, I've read the text on your PFP as a "sniffer"

[sick ginkgo]

okay xd

[jade briar]

I read it as "shitter"

[restive magnet]

I read it

[trail quail]

i forgor💀

[restive magnet]

wet walls in a tunnel?

or what is it

[slender zodiac]

Jesus Crist

[slender zodiac]

Oh time came

Someone is trying to make it work on U1...

Looks 300 years passed away and city is dead for good.

[spark moon]

Not wet just shinning light on rusty wall...

[jade briar]

https://www.joanwallacedrivingschool.com/do-you-really-know-your-road-markings/

[tawny elk]

Heres the official guide on all road markings, signs, etc. from the gov. Has everything in vectors and dimensioned (PDF warning) https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/pdfs/2009r1r2r3/mutcd09r1r2editionhl.pdf

[jade briar]

pdf warning

[tawny elk]

PDF Warming 🔥

[vague sparrow]

Maybe we don't need to follow the guidelines

The layout wasn't even designed for this lol it's a racing game

omg, if this is just for visual flairs go ahead

But don't be over thinking when it's not required

[surreal ruin]

Who needs guides when the game is about not caring about them in the first place haha

[jade briar]

idk the tufu guys have been geeking over accurate road markings so I thought I'd put the link here

I'm also not a fan of this

Might be handy for someone

[vague sparrow]

Fun comes from passion, not details

Make it look good without being a 🤓

I like how it looks currently

Just need more property placed light sources and emissive maps

and some remastered high poly models

Y'all know this better than me 😛

[vague sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQgossCZYks

its the tonemapper that's causing UG2 to look like GTA V lol

[patent magnet]

OMG, this is so GTA V

[timid prairie]

Finally, UE5 is GTA5

[calm violet]

Guys the project is still in development or now is cancelled?

[desert ridge]

If @jade briar still alive the project is alive, we are working on it.

[cloud crypt]

Still working on it, no worries, just have the head full of private shit at the moment so i stopped working on the lamp model. But will get back to work soon.

[ember river]

I'm on a bus heading back home after a week away. Can't wait to get my hands back in the project

[desert ridge]

Tonight, I will work on replacing the buildings. I've been watching several Substance 3D PBR texture videos lately, and I hope to create improved textures for the buildings.

[jade briar]

Not dead. Not yet.

Just distracted

[jade briar]

It's joever

[wispy drum]

Is it possible to update the rtx remix to version 0.3? The game needs frame generation for a very smooth experience

[humble niche]

NFSU2 has been on a late commit for a long time, there's a good chance most of the features from 0.3 were already in.

[cloud crypt]

Well, To be fair, were always aimed for having the latest build in it. And we always use the latest builds for development. So if we push out the next release it will be build on remix 0.3.0

[ember river]

Speaking of which, new release, when?

[cloud crypt]

Depends on some things. I think my wall and my underside of the bridges are merged. The new Lobby isnt yet and the model of the lamp is not finished

and i dont know which things are missing too

but i also think that the new lamp model isnt needed yet for the next release, its more a quality of life improvement. I will clear some things up and then i will share the Lobby files for merging

[ember river]

Think the remaining stuff is the avenue medians I'm working on and a couple @desert ridge tasks tagged as release0.3.0-alpha, which now seems like we're just following remix major versions

[cloud crypt]

haha XD

[ember river]

But it is right, next one has many changes as per semantic versioning, so 0.3.0 it is

[desert ridge]

I have identified two tasks for the upcoming release, 0.3.0-alpha. Assigning glass materials is nearly complete, but the effect retexture still requires some minor adjustments.

Regarding building replacement, my original plan was to include it in the next release. However, it may take some time to create the interior assets, so only a few buildings might be included in 0.3.0.

In addition, I intend to create a dramatic intro video for this buildings modification. I will provide more details once the first hotel building is finished.

[ember river]

Lemme know if you need any help. I could do the interiors if you're struggling a bit with it, or something else

[desert ridge]

My plan is quite ambitious, perhaps even more than you all might expect. I aim to create complete buildings with rooms, elevators, restaurants, and reception areas, just like a real hotel.

All of these plans are based on the intro video I want to create. It will serve as a showcase to demonstrate how Remix can achieve high levels of detail and realism.

That's precisely why I mentioned the need to create a floor plan for the hotel. I want to ensure accuracy and avoid creating something that is not faithful to the original game.

[ember river]

Hmm ok, that sounds really cool as a showcase sample, though for final product I wouldn't go that way because, at the end of the day, gameplay matters the most, and if we spend all the budget on stuff that isn't visible by players, we will end up not having enough to add more effective details like road side vegetation, facades, stuff ppl can drive around up close

You can keep on that project if you want for sure, but lets just avoid having it going full blown on a final release. Lets use that as an alternative branch for showcase purposes. We could even create another branch from matter just for such things

[desert ridge]

Understood. My plan is focused on creating only two hotel buildings. For the rest of the buildings, I can utilize the Blender Buildify add-on to expedite the process.

[desert ridge]

I will start by assigning the glass materials and editing the textures. I believe I can finish these tasks within a few days. Over the past few weeks, I have been primarily working on my Remix GTASA mod and haven't made any progress with NFSU2. Now, I will shift my focus back to NFSU2 and continue working on it.

[ember river]

All cool buddy.
I'm just asking so we can wrap up a new release soon, it has been a long while since 0.2.0

[craggy plover]

So I have come with a problem that is new for me. The game is going in slow motion. Does anyone know of a solution?

[tawny elk]

What’s your FPS?

[craggy plover]

its between 30 and above 40

[tawny elk]

Try setting DLSS to a lower setting and increase your FPS.

[craggy plover]

is there anything I should do with speed.exe properties by chance?

[tawny elk]

Not that I know of

[vague sparrow]

hmm

this issue effects the physics of the engine

if there are too many frames it breaks

and goes in slow motion

[jade briar]

But there aren't

[craggy plover]

So I just played with the dlss off and on, high and low settings. I upgraded my pc recently and moved the game onto an nvme.

[tawny elk]

Did you install extra options ?

https://github.com/ExOptsTeam/NFSU2ExOpts

[jade briar]

Nvme shoujldn't make that much of a difference other than loading textures

[vague sparrow]

here's an example tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKOO667ClDg

[vague sparrow]

we now have RTXIO

[jade briar]

Dude's getting 40 fps

[vague sparrow]

shush 6500 fps

🐺

[jade briar]

oh

he told me to shush

okay then

[vague sparrow]

i believe someone else was having a problem

something like this

damn

i referenced the same video before

that makes it the 3rd time i reposted

[craggy plover]

So I went to that old post from HellRaven EXP and set my fps limit in widescreen fix to 0 and it works again

[vague sparrow]

yay

[craggy plover]

I do have some confusion on why I am getting low fps on my pc after upgrading

[vague sparrow]

What PC do you have

[craggy plover]

@vague sparrow I have upgraded to a ryzen 9 7950x3d cpu and a 4090 gpu

[valid geyser]

You need two 4090s in SLI

[craggy plover]

No way XD

[vague sparrow]

I think you should be able to do 40fps on 1440p native

No DLSS

And at 4k you need frame gen and DLSS balanced

[craggy plover]

I saw dlss but where is the frame gen?

[vague sparrow]

Are you going on 0.3 build of rtx remix runtime?

[craggy plover]

That I am not sure of. I might need to update

[vague sparrow]

They included dlss 3 frame gen back

[craggy plover]

Ohhh okay. Yeah I will update it then

[desert ridge]

Adjusted the glass material to reduce its transparency, allowing for a see-through effect while addressing the issue of excessive shininess on the car interior when using highly reflective Legacy Materials.

[desert ridge]

I have recreated the refractor mesh to ensure that it looks accurate and visually appealing.I realize that sometimes I can be stubborn.

[surreal ruin]

Now das a proper Sprinter

[desert ridge]

For comparison, here is the origin mesh with edited headlight texture

[desert ridge]

I believe the license plate need some love, and the height map works effectively on flat surfaces. Should I consider adding some dirt to enhance it?

[jade briar]

Sure, but not too much

[desert ridge]

I have subscribed to the monthly plan for Substance 3D, but I'm still using Photoshop to create textures because I'm too lazy to explore new options.😅

[jade briar]

Substance is very similar to Photoshop

With its layering system

[ember river]

Oh, you can buy it once for life on Steam

Only 2023 version though

[desert ridge]

After careful consideration, I believe that all 3software included are valuable, especially the Substance 3D Designer can easily create many custom patterns. Therefore, I have decided to subscribe to the monthly plan.

[desert ridge]

Yes, that's one of the reason i picked substance 3D.

It's it too much?

[ember river]

I'd look some references on how dirt tends to accumulate on such surfaces

[desert ridge]

Like this?

[ember river]

Kinda, yeah. You can also use the bump maps + smart materials to peel paint, add rust layers and such

[desert ridge]

So, that means I have to start using Substance now. Alright, let's give it a try.

[ember river]

Oh you've mentioned you're on PS, nvm then

[tawny elk]

Substance is life

[desert ridge]

Substance offers more procedural options and is likely faster than manually painting in Photoshop, provided I use it effectively. Therefore, I still need to give it a try.

[ember river]

Just don't go overboard like this reference, as it is a tuner's car, the guy still cleans it up from time to time, although a little bit of rust or exposed metal might appear with time

Maybe something with this level of worn
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/OyaLgk

[ember cobalt]

i see plates like the middle two most often

this includes rural areas with more dirt or whatever

[desert ridge]

That's one look nice but i think it appears too rough.

[desert ridge]

Shit, texturing is hard for me, just finished align the albedo and the height texture, it's time for me to go to work. I'll try my best to work on it tonight.

The UV mapping is stretched, so I need to recreate the mesh as well.

[tawny elk]

By the way, I’d suggest making the screws and lettering raised in the actual mesh rather than having them just be normals.

[desert ridge]

If I choose to perform mesh replacement, that is also part of my plan. I find it easier to accomplish through modeling rather than creating textures.

[tawny elk]

No use in trying to make the texture work if the UVs are messed up with the original mesh.

[desert ridge]

I still require some time to learn how to utilize Substance effectively.

[desert ridge]

Yes, it's simply a flat surface with a border and some beveling on the edges. It's quite easy to create.

[cloud crypt]

Just set the simulation rate to 0 in widescreenfix, it will fix it

Short: sim rate

Normally its set to -1 which will effectively will be your monitors refresh rate and -2 would be double that. But too high in-engine frame rates causes many problems which will result in slow motion. Which you can see in a good camera with 900fps. Its the same result but only with higher fps.
Setting it to 0 will limit the engine to 120fps so you wont experience slow motion

[open atlas]

I think we'd be better off making the plates look like they do in the later games where they look like proper plates issued by municipalities

[vague sparrow]

or just follow the games original style

it's not really that big of deal

it just needs to look detailed with PBR

if needed

[desert ridge]

I believe that this project's art direction guideline should adhere to the original style previously mentioned by @jade briar.

[jade briar]

Isn't that the whole point?

To remaster the game while still keeping the original look and feel

[desert ridge]

For comparison purposes, I have a strong desire to closely match the original style, including the font, to the best of my ability.

[jade briar]

Looks good

[cloud crypt]

Thats what i always said too😂👍

[vague sparrow]

Hmm, the font is good but still not the same as the original

[desert ridge]

Unable to locate the exact font they used, some manual adjustments are needed.

[vague sparrow]

Like the 'R' is a bit curvy in original

And has more width

[desert ridge]

Follow the original shape and trace the outline, but the letter "G" looks somewhat unusual or odd.

[vague sparrow]

Also looks like it's embossed as well

Otherwise yours is a very good remake of the original number plate

I could give suggestions because that's all I can do here

[desert ridge]

Will be using a height map and normal map for this process, this is the albedo map will be used to create PBR textures.

[vague sparrow]

I will ask a bunch of people what font it is

maybe we can find it

[desert ridge]

ChatGPT informed me that the font is Eurostile Bold Extended #2, but it appears to be a slightly different font. Even Illustrator's Retype feature couldn't find the exact match. It's possible that the text is too blurry, and the font itself is uncommon or unique.

[ember river]

If you know vector drawing, you can just trace the points on top of the blurry version and get the best precision. Also, make sure to keep an even thickness for the lines

Maybe some upscaling AI like waifu2x could help increasing the image resolution so you have something sharper to work with

[desert ridge]

I have manually traced the points in Illustrator. It seems that using AI to upscale the image beforehand might result in an improved outcome.

[balmy chasm]

Does it look similar?

[desert ridge]

The number 2 appears different, while the others are similar. However, the letter "G" in the original version has a sharp corner at the bottom left.

wait, is it the embossed effect to make the number 2 look like different.

[vague sparrow]

oh nice the font looks 99% identical

what font is this

[balmy chasm]

I mean... Here's the outline

[desert ridge]

It's the same font used in GTASA

[balmy chasm]

On the right of a screenshot

[vague sparrow]

no way that's arial

LMAO

[ember river]

the look & feel of it is all there, so, I'd say, lets move on with this, after all, it is just a millimetric detail, no time to spend on this level of detailing

[desert ridge]

Number 2 still look different🤔

[balmy chasm]

Want me to adjust "2" to match?

[desert ridge]

It's easy to make the change. I can switch the font in Photoshop, convert it to a shape, and adjust the corner slightly.

[balmy chasm]

Ye, that's what I mean. I just noticed it to be a standart font

[desert ridge]

Does anyone recall which internal addon in Blender can be used to create screws?

The license plate is ready, but I still need to add the screw to fill up the UV space.

[balmy chasm]

You can grab some from Sketchfab-like website :P

[desert ridge]

I found it, It's Bolt Factory

[jade briar]

Ah yes. The yandere dev screw generator

[ember river]

For such tiny detail, its best to just painting the screws/bolts on the main image with a proper bump & normals

speaking of guidelines, what do you guys think about it? Should we start working in it? Any ideas?

It has been a recurrent subject lately

[balmy chasm]

Not sure what's the topic you mention

[ember river]

About having well defined style guides for the whole project, so ppl can line up their stuff with what everyone expects for the project, not just doing stuff by feeling rn

I personally think it might be a good time. Almost every month someone new joins the team, sometimes without full understanding of remix shennanigans, also, there might be more ppl who would like to join, but don't feel confident yet as it is not clear what we're expecting

[balmy chasm]

Burrito just refuse to compel. It makes me think twice before starting anything. Any of my work can be just ditched to him saying "no" any random time in the project

[ember river]

Just like you guys started working on that "hierarchy" and "style guide for artists" document

[vague sparrow]

im sure he'd love to see something that's really good and close to the original game

because that's what we are after, don't wanna lose the games style

[ember river]

That is because we have ppl's "feeling" overruling a standard guide document. If we had a style guide, we would have good arguments for what to keep and ditch + having well defined tasks so ppl don't work on the same thing like happended a while ago with you and CountBuggula, who I've been missing in this channel too

[balmy chasm]

As I've said above, we need to identify what's too much off the original game. As all of us have slightly different feeling about what is too much in specific case

[vague sparrow]

having played the game...i can atleast give my perspective of what's okay to go with and what's not

we can either go shot for shot original or keep the same aesthetics with minor touching

just create a few iterations of what you are making and the people here will decide

it makes it more compelling to work with suggestions

[ember river]

Well, our best references now are the projects that have been released.
What do you guys think about HL2 & Portal Prelude's approach? Too much difference, too little?

[vague sparrow]

me personally, i would go with the original but when we need to add detail then its a problem (you have to add something of your own to justify the level of detail)

[ember river]

not sure what you mean with "going with the original"

[balmy chasm]

This is the working strategy right now. But working on numerous iterations swallows more time than you expect. Consider the real chance of other people reworking some stuff from scratch. And here you get an infinite loop of reworking same asset by all the people with numerous iterations. We just don't have such a big resource potential.

[ember river]

There is a heavy machinery asset from HL2, lemme find the on/off real quick

[vague sparrow]

so the portal RTX went with a more remaster approach, new materials and textures (from portal 2)

some hated it and others felt it was fine

what i meant with the original was that it should look the same but enhanced obviously

nothing replaced entirely that might hinder with the games art style

[tawny elk]

Font is Ariel Bold

[balmy chasm]

Can not correct you.*** Italic Bold***

[vague sparrow]

@tawny elk adam you did all that effort but we already found it

[tawny elk]

Very correct

[tawny elk]

All good, I didn’t realize ya found it

[vague sparrow]

or the required man power

its like each working modder contributes as much as they can

[ember river]

This one I noticed has changed a lot between On & Off. What are you guys' opinions on that?

[tawny elk]

Looks good to me 👍

[vague sparrow]

they are using the remastered assets from project 17 and HLA

[ember river]

Yea, I mean, what if we were to use the same level of remaking the assets, being this much different from the original?

[tawny elk]

By the way, I dug up some concept art for U2 from the web and reached out to the artist if they’re able to share any more information.

[vague sparrow]

yeah no way the original was like that

[balmy chasm]

My personal border line for materials: Matching material type, matching base color, add up realistic patterns/details/etc;
For lights: place them from already present light sources of the scene, can add up few fake ones when sources can be off screen, match realistic values for color/temperature.

So this remake looks logical for me - good work.

[desert ridge]

It doesn't resemble the original exactly, but I believe it looks more like a real liquid rather than resembling glass like in the original. I think it was intended to represent a liquid substance.

[ember river]

It might be some kind of fuel reservoir or a sensory deprivation tank

[vague sparrow]

on a more professional level, we have still not created our workflow properly as to what we are going to remake first

correct me if i wrong here

we have the github thing Eman created but all i see is the Manhole thing

😅

[ember river]

Kinda, we have a GitHub Projects board, though we don't have any rules to feed the backlog of "To-Do" tasks

Any task is welcome on the "Backlog" column, sure, but we don't have rules to what to drag to "Todo" column
https://github.com/users/Ekozmaster/projects/1

[balmy chasm]

Important one

[tawny elk]

[vague sparrow]

i have a solution

what if we recreate that part of the wall with no trash (cuz i think its grouped together, or even a part of a single mesh), then add a child mesh of our own trash model

[ember river]

That trash pile deserves a meme of its own, or an easter egg

[balmy chasm]

My billboard design is telling a story about staircase next to it

[vague sparrow]

do we have a proper method of replacing game meshes?

[desert ridge]

Regarding the recreation of the tire texture, I have already uploaded two of them on the GitHub. However, I haven't started working on the remaining ones yet. Should I continue with the task since it's not included in the v0.3.0 Alpha list?

[ember river]

You guys have some more contributions for that? I'll be searching some methods to get this guideline doc going.
If anyone who have had experience with such things like building GDDs before would like to contribute too, that would be awesome. I'm looking for tools, structure, mood boards, maybe wikis, stuff like that

[desert ridge]

After updating the Remix action, everything has become excessively bright.

[balmy chasm]

oh no

This is legit worst nightmare we could have

[cloud crypt]

Will see if i can fix that in the new Lobby

With the new lighting

short question, remix 0.3.0 still compatible with bridge remix?

ok, i get what he meant with excessively bright

[balmy chasm]

Super nova lights are back 🥲

[jade briar]

shit

[cloud crypt]

messing with exposure doesnt help

uhh, have too fully rework the lights then, but before i do that i will test without bridge

yeah no, same result

[vague sparrow]

It's like opening your eyes in the morning

[cloud crypt]

thats really fucked up...

[ember river]

That seems more of a bug than how remix will work from now on. I wouldn't bother that much and just file an issue

[cloud crypt]

seems to be an emissive problem, because normal lights in free roam seem to be just fine

or a reflection issue

[vague sparrow]

Sweet

These screenshots are mouth watering

[cloud crypt]

yeah no, its not an emissive problem

Its only in the lobby, which is a bit strange, but nothing I cant fix haha XD

[balmy chasm]

You can check shops as well

[cloud crypt]

i will see where these problems are too

[ember river]

Could be that single light source bug we had a long ago. Try disabling sections of your usda file to check where it is

[cloud crypt]

yeah

is that supposed to be that bright?

well, body shop same problem

Paint shop too

and all the other shops too...

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[balmy chasm]

May be Normalize is finally a thing? Or that's how different types of light work now?

[cloud crypt]

well, for all my lights i used normalize

[tawny elk]

Well that’s not good, wonder what happened

[vague sparrow]

Who was responsible for handling the main menu/garage's lights

Is the problem related to exposure or

Something idk?

[cloud crypt]

im on it

Main lobby is currently in my hands

seems not to be an exposure problem, turned down every exposure level by 5 right now

[balmy chasm]

Also check logs for any errors

[cloud crypt]

turning down exposure does this

[vague sparrow]

Ew

It's all blown out

[cloud crypt]

yeah, downt know what happened

[vague sparrow]

Can we go back to the latest 0.2 build just to confirm?

[cloud crypt]

0.2 is just fine, ive tested

[balmy chasm]

I assume SphereLight holds the crown in freeroam, while lobbies are made with RectLights. May be they're bugged or reworked now

[cloud crypt]

more like bugged

still, even emissives are too bright in 0.3.0

[tawny elk]

Rect lights didn’t (or maybe still don’t) work with the anticulling lights feature.

[cloud crypt]

and main lobby only uses some rect lights

and in the logs i cant find anything that would cause at least that problem

or i am blind

but 0.3.0 seems like it requires mip maps cause there are many warns

and yeah, thats bad for the next release, textures sould not be defined in a users folder

and is that normal?

[tawny elk]

Yea that’s normal

[cloud crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-how-to-fix-this-harpers-bazaar-i-have-no-idea-how-to-fix-this-i-dont-think-i-can-fix-this-i-dont-know-how-to-fix-it-gif-18261273

Mark pls fix

well, maybe we stay at remix 0.2.0 until it is fixed 🤷‍♂️

[ember river]

Garages are the only places where the skybox doesn't fully covers the sky, as the camera only looks at one direction

might be directional light

[cloud crypt]

well, i already tested it bacause i had that in my mind too, but yeah, even with only indirect lighting its way too bright

[tawny elk]

I just downed a bunch of coffee, I can attempt to maintain the buzz and fix it

[cloud crypt]

dont you need my usda then? atleast the one for the lights?

[ember river]

I might be wrong, but disabling direct lighting might not be enough for getting rid of a already too strong sun. Afaik, it will only disable lighting contributions of the primary rays, but the secondary & onwards will still carry a lot of energy from the overly strong sun
Again, just a very rough guess

[cloud crypt]

yeah, disabling makes no sense, then even our lights would be worthless

[ember river]

A good test you could make is to replace the main lobby skybox mesh with the one at 03_meshes/01_environment/01_skybox

[cloud crypt]

i could test it yeah, good idea

well no, even when replacing the mesh it doesnt work

[ember river]

wtf. What happens if you disable enhancements, textures, lights, etc.?

[surreal ruin]

@desert ridge

It's just normal Arial Italics Bold

[surreal ruin]

You won't get a 100 % match because the letters are distorted through low res and compression stuff but yeah

[cloud crypt]

so even the Need for Speed is in Arial Italic Bold then

[ember river]

Hmm so it is not default light remapping causing issues. Its gotta be something we added

[cloud crypt]

but its strange... Its only happening with 0.3.0 and only in the shops and lobbys

okay, and some other lights are a bit bright too, but they already were before. Since we want to rework all lights after next release it shouldnt be a problem at all. But these lobbys have to be fixed

maybe a mesh replacement is causing it, or truly the rect lights? have to do some digging, that would cost me some time

[balmy chasm]

Check Emissives with enabling textures back

[ember river]

You can binary search through the USDA files, starting at top level mod.usad, disabling one half of the layers and checking if the problem persists, and work your way like that until pinpointing the culprit. That is what I did with that light issue we had

[timid prairie]

⬆️ me, when i was recreating one thing from GTA SA

[cloud crypt]

I will do a deep dive when i have some time for it

[cloud crypt]

looks like a mutated sperm XD

[timid prairie]

i know 😏

[desert ridge]

Thanks, I have already created the albedo texture and am currently facing difficulties with the paint layer. While attempting to paint on the screw, it is also affecting the surrounding surfaces.Why texturing is so hard...😫

[surreal ruin]

Aaah, wrong kinda screws aren't they?

[jade briar]

Could the UVs be overlapping?

[surreal ruin]

Those holes aren't actually screws

[cloud crypt]

Those are more like rivets

not even holes

[balmy chasm]

Change these

[vague sparrow]

Use M4 screws

[surreal ruin]

They're called License Plate Frame Screws

[cloud crypt]

ah yes, these

[ember river]

It seems to be "The rod of Asclepius", common symbol in medical science @timid prairie

[cloud crypt]

i thaught of rivets like these

[timid prairie]

off topic showcase how that looked like in game

[timid prairie]

well, i did that more than 3 months ago, so i don't care that much right now, but thanks for info

[vague sparrow]

Normal bolt screws with flat washers

[desert ridge]

No, all separated far far away.

[balmy chasm]

That's alingment thing. You paint over several shells. If you want isolated result, use masks. Or you can swap it to UV mode and paint on UVs only

[desert ridge]

Could it be that the practice differs in other countries? I have noticed that many license plates in other places use actual screws for attachment.🤔

[surreal ruin]

Oh yeah every place does it differently for sure!

I just think judging by the original texture it definitely looks like frame screws

[desert ridge]

Thanks, changed ailgnment to UV problem solved.

[vague sparrow]

Use m4 like these, might get lucky

[surreal ruin]

That's definitely not it, judging by the original texture they have a flat top, not rounded

[cloud crypt]

in Germany liscense plates look like these

we have a specific liscense plate holder XD

[desert ridge]

There have a GTASA group you can discuss there, I also publish my GTASA Remix GitHub Project there.

[vague sparrow]

Hmm, btw it's so low textures and slightly big

We would just have to make our own

Best one gets implemented

[desert ridge]

Which one should i make🤔

[balmy chasm]

Americans...

[vague sparrow]

#1103377328530276403 message

The black ones

[cloud crypt]

Of course the ones that look close to og

[vague sparrow]

This looks like cogs welded on

Too comically large

[surreal ruin]

That's because of the pixels in the low res texture

[desert ridge]

What's that thing.

[vague sparrow]

Ik

How do we interpret what's actually there

[cloud crypt]

i would prefere we take numberplates from carbon as example for new liscense plates

[vague sparrow]

Honestly idk

Looks like normal screws but slightly messed up due to compression

[cloud crypt]

thats from carbon (yes with mods, but that aint matters)

[desert ridge]

These one with text look very cool.

[ember river]

Seems more likely this kind of screw, with a rounded head or flat one

[cloud crypt]

the second one

[vague sparrow]

Rounded

[surreal ruin]

Given the bevel from the original picture clearly catching a lot fo shadow and light it's actually something between these

It's a flat head with a bevel on the edges

[vague sparrow]

Here's one example as well

Looks ok

[ember river]

although a round head would look nicer with PBR maps

[desert ridge]

With text or not? I can place our name over there as an Easter egg.

[cloud crypt]

here

[vague sparrow]

Maybe we can make a prototype first with texted screws

[surreal ruin]

What you're looking at is this basically

[desert ridge]

Many UV Space didn't use.

[vague sparrow]

@desert ridge we got it

Just gotta make it a lil smaller in diameter

[cloud crypt]

have a few ones if needed XD

[cloud crypt]

I am off for now, if something is important or you guys have important question don`t hesitate to ping me, if the allowance to ping gets abused I will block that person...

[surreal ruin]

They look quite silly at the original size of the game

But this is pretty much as accurate as a 3D version can be

No textures other than the text though

[mystic robin]

Guys, do you need some help with doing PBR on textures or you have been already done it?

[jade briar]

Yes

[mystic robin]

Yes what?

[jade briar]

Yes we ned textures

[mystic robin]

Oh alright then

[ember river]

Any help is welcome, sure. The project is way far from done

[mystic robin]

How much textures were not done yet?

In percent

[cloud crypt]

I think round about 95% are missing

[mystic robin]

Hmm, do you need self maded textures or it also can be used original but with enchantments?

[ember river]

We're now handcrafting them all to high res versions with added details, while keeping the original look & feel.
Textures are one side of the equation though. We're also replacing the models with high poly versions and proper UV mapping, so not all textures will be remade as is, rather, new models with remapped textures will also take place. It is hard to say now what will remain using the original game mesh with enhanced textures and what will be completely remodelled

[surreal ruin]

Original for comparison

[jade briar]

Oh wow

[surreal ruin]

Also spent some time the other day learning some blender.

Decided I'd rather eat tar.

[jade briar]

Uhh

yeah

[surreal ruin]

Guessing most of ya'll rely on plugins for the UV editing?

[jade briar]

Yes

[surreal ruin]

Yeeeh figures hehe

[tawny elk]

I rizomuv

Would highly recommend

I basically used blender uv once and decided that it wasn’t for me

[cloud crypt]

I am learning blender at the moment. Learned pretty much on 1 day thanks to e-man, adam, hemry and some others

Also thanks to many videos😂

[desert ridge]

Nice

[vague sparrow]

Looks goofy ngl

[safe patrol]

Hey guys. Just wanted to say I'm still alive. Wife had knee replacement surgery, plus lots of other stuff going on in work and personal life so I pretty much haven't even touched discord in like 2+ months. Sorry about the absence, but I'll try and hop on again at some point in the near future to see what else I can help out with. I'm sure you guys have been doing great work without me meanwhile.

[jade briar]

Don't worry about a thing. Go take care of your wife

[vague sparrow]

wait....whos gonna be changing these PS1 NPCs

nothing realistic but their textures do look a bit blurry

[jade briar]

They don't work in ff mode

[vague sparrow]

Damn...that makes the game feel incomplete

I was wondering where the crowds are

[jade briar]

Adam was able to enable them but they don't render

[dapper root]

It's very beautiful, good job!

[vague sparrow]

since the background can be replaced completely, i wonder if we could bring the concept garage back with its white minimalistic looks

its still a concept image

[trail quail]

басуха валит пизда

[ember river]

Don't see we doing it in the main project as our focus is remastering the game close to the original now, but sure, totally doable as an overlaid optional replacement mod

[vague sparrow]

i was wondering over if we could test it out when we will be done with the remastering project

always loved concept/beta recreation

[rain nova]

This version is insanely good, but I support the decision to faithfully reproduce the details of the final version, but if it was possible to recreate this garage as an option, it would be interesting

[balmy whale]

you need to change the clour grading, but looks good

[surreal ruin]

There is no colour grading, that's just a viewport screenshot from Max with some realtime lights

The OG texture is just a texture, my version is a set of PBR textures lit in real time

[balmy whale]

oh, i see

[bright hedge]

the way this looks is awesome

[jade briar]

No need for speed November

[nocturne hawk]

No need for november

[elfin beacon]

No need.

https://tenor.com/view/nnn-gif-23514837

[restive magnet]

No vember

[trail quail]

yes vember

[timid prairie]

November

[trail quail]

POGGERS

[trail quail]

Hello there! Im working on #1169530553339490314, who wanna handle the nfs u2 repo?

[soft zinc]

hey there!

Back after 2 or so months! What's the biggest changes so far

[jade briar]

uhh

lots of small things added

[soft zinc]

as in car model updates?

is the refraction 'shader' for windshields up and running? How's performance so far btw?

[vague sparrow]

Define small

[jade briar]

Some mesh replacements here and there

adam is working on traffic lights

I'm working on the speed barrels

[vague sparrow]

Where's the trash can mesh update

Where man🕳️

[jade briar]

Main lobby has new lighting

Hemry is starting work on light replacements for cars

[vague sparrow]

alright

[jade briar]

Hellraven has made a new rtx.conf

[vague sparrow]

We can technically increase draw distance with mesh replacements

[jade briar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165374943991709813/1169039589047021638/image.png?ex=6553f3f5&is=65417ef5&hm=d4986d89b6a9a35356cf357101d291e388458c1d8bf82dc96c7bc11b990e6a51&

[vague sparrow]

Adding background buildings to a well hashed mesh that doesn't disappear will permanently keep the building there

@jade briar would the toolkit make your work easier regarding ug2?

[jade briar]

It will make everything easy

[vague sparrow]

Oh yeah definitely

Might give me some motivation to show my contribution

[timid prairie]

and im just sitting

[patent musk]

I don't understand much English but can anyone here be straight with me? please let me know if the NFSU2 remix is ​​still available😆

[ember cobalt]

i repinned the message so it's at the top of the list

[ember cobalt]

it is: https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NFSU2-RTX-Remix

use DeepL to translate to your language (if it's supported). as far as i know, it's the best translator

[timid prairie]

Its quite is most of the time for my language

So yeah, DeepL is recommended

[cloud crypt]

Sneak peak into new Lobby Lighting (will get a bit more polished until version 0.3.0 release)

[soft zinc]

the boom blam water splash things?

also what's the progress so far in car materials?

last I messed around, everything had a 'unierval' material due to how UG2 materaisl and hasing worked

[cloud crypt]

That didnt changed until now... car material are a mess at the moment. But i corrected the carbon material

[tulip plume]

guys how can i install the mod

[quaint shell]

why the game may look like it is framerate limited?

in freeroam there's also no any lightning

[balmy chasm]

You got extremely old release. We got v.0.2.0 for public use available on github

[quaint shell]

I use that build from your repo indeed

Although the game might be 1.0...

[cloud crypt]

Yeah pls use the 0.2.0 release from the pinned github

Lights are already set up there

Atleast for for main areas (not all racetracks), highways and garages

[cobalt gull]

Just reinstalled nfsu2 cuz I thought something was wrong, but after reinstalling this is how it looks

Using rtx remix 0.3.0 / bridge 0.3.0 & NFSU2-RTX from GH

[mossy pelican]

got a new monitor but didn't upgraded the GPU

i'm really afraid of playing NFSU2 now

seeing FPS below 20 will hurt my ego

😩

[vague sparrow]

I'll be happy seeing a single frame per second

[dusty grove]

Install github desktop
Open GitHub desktop
Clone repo of nfsu2rtx
Only this way it will work

[quaint shell]

i thought you dont need it?

still low fps on 1.2 patch tho

i'll try release binaries of everything instead of debug ones

oh it really helped

the car doesnt have lights tho

[dusty grove]

Because you download old release
Do GitHub desktop> clone repo of nfsu2rtx
Than you will have latest and greatest

[quaint shell]

alright

nah, it was a bad idea

[cloud crypt]

Thats normal in 0.2.0, car lights will be added in 0.3.0...

[quaint shell]

Got it

[bright hedge]

a friendly advice, if you're sometimes a masochist, try heavily modding gta 5

thank me later

[cloud crypt]

Same results garantueed on 4070ti, heavy modded gta v has also only 20fps😂

[deft lichen]

Where on this page do I download bridge remix? is it the expired artifacts at the bottom?

[ember river]

Yeah, pick some newer ones, as those artifacts expire after 90 days

[deft lichen]

thanks 🙏

[zinc meteor]

Question regarding the vertex lighting yall raised a while ago -
Have you explored if there's any way to modify the original game to disable those baked lights?

[ember river]

Don't think anyone has tried. Though completely disabling vertex colors wouldn't be nice as some effects like car neons use them to add the emissive colors

Might be worth a shot though, @tawny elk

[zinc meteor]

If you can disable the vertex colors for the baked lighting but keep it for the dynamic lighting, that'd be generally better than trying to exclude some draw calls from the vertex color strength multiplier

[tawny elk]

I’ll be doing some testing soon

[balmy chasm]

When we replace all the meshes, vertex colors will be gone anyway 😅

[vague sparrow]

not much activity going on here, have you guys created your own discord server for development?

[jade briar]

yes

[vague sparrow]

nice

[ember cobalt]

just in case this isn't a weird joke, could i have an invite?

[vague sparrow]

at this point they need one to keep systematic

[ember cobalt]

i expected one sooner really

[jade briar]

Too much noise here

[cloud crypt]

Yeah, we will only use this channel for information. For example when we have a next update ready for release etc

[open atlas]

Seconding this request

[vague sparrow]

maybe they just wanna use this thread for important stuff like releases or such

It gets very cluttered with them troubleshooting and figuring out stuff

But would love to see real time development and progress

so pass on the invite!

[timid prairie]

Im interested to look at progress at real time, so yeah, invite please

[cloud crypt]

No

Srry, but that server is only for contributors, we will post some stuff from time to time in here

[timid prairie]

Okay, fine

[cloud crypt]

Updated the red neon tube

[ionic prawn]

Have a stadnd alone, or any realease of BEta???

[open atlas]

Well that makes this infinitely less fun to follow

[cloud crypt]

I understand your points and i understand it from a user pov too but you guys should understand us that it is hard for us to communicate in here because so many poeple are in here commenting stuff. Also wo dont have the possibilty to have seperate channels for seperate aspects of the mod.

Im sry for you, but maybe we can figure smth out to keep you in charge

[valid geyser]

bro just asked for an invite

[ember cobalt]

guys, they're going to do what they need to to ensure smooth development. please respect that. they'll post updates here as they said. i understand this is a disappointment, but being confined to a single channel for a project as involved as this one is isn't ideal

[valid geyser]

i think i was the first to come up with the idea of a separate discord server in the first place and i was shut down by everyone do i didn't push it further lol

[jade briar]

Me too

They said no

[valid geyser]

they could just have, idk, separate channels for contributors and everyone else lol

instead of being condescending

[ember cobalt]

there's ways around it. locking people to only view messages by default for example

[valid geyser]

that too

[ember cobalt]

i don't think anything here was condescending though, at least it didn't come off that way to me

[valid geyser]

that last sentence from hellraven

completely uncalled for

[ember cobalt]

i think he meant to keep you guys updated on the project. he's not a native english speaker iirc, probably just used the wrong word

[open atlas]

Neither is he

[jade briar]

Y'all are worrying too much.

We're still working on the mod

We will show off stuff when it's worth showing

The server is just because we wanted to work in peace and have dedicated channels to talk about different stuff.

There was too much noise here and just one channel made it kinda crowded and confusing when multiple devs were working on different at the same time

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1165374943991709813/1172741537042534490/image.png?ex=65616baa&is=654ef6aa&hm=e0352a20d58d2d4a6a110bb6e3a3131e64d8838325b6d720fde28fe8c23926a7&

And here's the latest wip for people who really wanna see what's going on

[cloud crypt]

Thats what i said

[desert ridge]

Here is the progress on replacing the headlights on 350z. We are trying to figure out how to optimize the performance while still keep the visual quality with our mods.

[jade briar]

Is it just me or does it look flatter than last time. The original ones have good shape to them. I can read them easily.

[vague sparrow]

you guys need to look at some old tuner magazines

[desert ridge]

These are custom-made headlights for a Rachael's 350z. I didn't find any real examples to use as a reference.

[vague sparrow]

the real inspiration is really hidden in those magazines, great for reference

[desert ridge]

I already made a new version, but I didn't take a screenshot of it. It's the one I posted in the contributors group.

[jade briar]

Ah

[desert ridge]

Did you see this headlight design in an old tuning magazine? If so, which magazine was it in? I could try taking a look at that magazine for reference.

[vague sparrow]

ok i will try finding it, i remember seeing different headlight designs for cars but rn not much

it might be a in-house custom design

made by Blackbox

yeah its not there

you have to remake it ig

[desert ridge]

That's what I meant. I already tried finding many reference photos online but couldn't find any. I also tried using NFS Unbound to see Rachel's 350Z as a reference, but the mod that unlocks all cars doesn't work with the latest update.

[vague sparrow]

this specific headlight is not available on the internet

wait...

i think Heat has it

[desert ridge]

I think Need for Speed Unbound would show more detail, since that screenshot is very small. I can't see the real details, so I need to see it in the game to use as a reference.

[open atlas]

Why not try Heat

Heat has the same car but without a DLC requirement

[vague sparrow]

that headlight might be from Unite mod

[desert ridge]

Even the newest Need for Speed games don't show headlight and taillight patterns in too much detail. I'll need to use real photos as a reference.

[vague sparrow]

do you have any free cam mods?

[open atlas]

It’s… not hard to just not load Heat with mods to get higher quality reference images

[vague sparrow]

i legit looked up for a 350z aftermarket headlight but no use

even on ebay lol

[desert ridge]

No, I don't have any free cam mods. Do you have one I could try out when I get back home to work on the modeling?

[desert ridge]

OK, i will try it when i get back home.

[vague sparrow]

https://nfsmods.xyz/mod/4364

here you go

[desert ridge]

Thanks

[open atlas]

The confrontational tone of that messaged wasn’t aimed at you btw

[ember cobalt]

i still have no idea why you guys are upset to this extent. there's nothing offensive about that message, and continuing to be snarky in responses following up is just crappy

[vague sparrow]

i mean i am not really, did really suggest them to get a server because this would get very cluttered

i like that we will only get updates here

[desert ridge]

Don't worry about it. As someone who works in sales and freelance design, I'm used to clients complaining about different things. I've developed a tough skin when it comes to complaints.

[vague sparrow]

if the progress is substantial

[ember cobalt]

ah, wasn't responding to you. you've been fine, no worries

[ember cobalt]

i have too, i'm just extra tired of it. it's been more prominent here recently, and i'd like to cut down on it

[surreal ruin]

It's just smoother for development folks, posting something WIP in here is a bit of a landmine, as you'll mostly get flooded with comments from individuals who don't understand the workflows or what's being done, that's not great for development.

However naturally getting feedback from people in here is also something we've mentioned being important, we don't want to cut that off.
Just need a place where we can work together nicely and not have all our discussions drowned in questions about how to install the mod etc, having one single channel to work from just won't really do it.

So updates will still be posted in here, along with basically everything you'd normally see, it's just internal feedback and development jargon that won't affect any of you guys anyway that goes into the private discord.

Trust me, we'll spend 2 hours talking about how to set up a lightbulb.

Ya'll don't want to hear that 😛

[cloud crypt]

Ah yeah, i remember that discussion about how to setup 3 point lighting... it was a mess

[surreal ruin]

Where my rimlights at Hellraven? Mmhmh?! XD

https://tenor.com/view/abe-simpson-abe-simpson-cloud-yelling-cloud-angry-gif-12558964

[cloud crypt]

Im working on it 😂😂

[surreal ruin]

'atta lad

[valid geyser]

if you need it i can get the 3d model of the headlights out of heat/unbound with frosty editor tomorrow

or the entire car

[surreal ruin]

We're not going to distribute copyrighted content

Can't just steal assets from other games like that

[ember cobalt]

i think he just means using it as a reference for your own design

[surreal ruin]

Ah, yes that's fine

[desert ridge]

That's nice, thanks. I have a 3 day holiday starting tomorrow. I can finish many headlights if I have reference meshes.

[desert ridge]

Wait, do you mean the editor available in the Frosty Mod Loader GitHub can export 3D meshes? If so, great ~ then I think I can do this myself. Thank you for sharing this information.

[valid geyser]

yes

get the editor

not the mod loader

[desert ridge]

OK, Thanks

[open atlas]

Might as well also get the model of the Mantis kit from the Skyline and 350Z while you're at it

[vague sparrow]

should be good for references

they are saying they don't want to use 1:1 of it, just recreate it using a source

[cloud crypt]

New smoke particles and updated lighting for main menu

[modern marsh]

where do i install graphic thing? im confused

[modern marsh]

which one lol

[jade briar]

uhhhh

one of them

[cloud crypt]

The first one

[dense linden]

so i download the rtx remix and when i try to run the game it doesn't run

i tryed to run it without anything installed and it didn't even run it was running without and problem now it doesn't

[ember cobalt]

thanks github 😛

[jade briar]

I like Github now

[cloud crypt]

Same haha😂

[buoyant burrow]

hello everyone

pls, someone ...

dont tell i wasted my time trying to install this mod... on a GTX1650 SUPER....

i mean... i need a RTX gpu to RUN the game? i was thinking that its just a requirement for the mod maker 🤡

[sharp sinew]

you need a 2000 series RTX and above graphics card to raytrace

[buoyant burrow]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA OH GOSH

I HAVE TO DIE NOW

[sharp sinew]

just go to the shops

[buoyant burrow]

im brazilian

my kidney can pay for a gtx 1050ti , if luck

@sharp sinew u know if theres some Work around to make this game running on a gtx gpu???????

[tawny elk]

None

[sharp sinew]

none at all

[vestal drift]

Your card just doesn't have the hardware to do it. And even if you could work around it somehow, you'd get like 1fps, maybe lower

[cloud crypt]

Maybe lower than 1 xD😂

[vague sparrow]

not one

but maybe 10fps at max through some unconventional Linux drivers only

[buoyant burrow]

Why u hate poor people? 😢

[cloud crypt]

i dont hate poor people, im poor too, atleast after i buyed my PC haha 🤣

[timid prairie]

I was able to get my laptop only thanks to parents

[dapper root]

Just sniped a 4080 for $850, how well can I run RTX Remix games?

I get like 30fps DLSS perf with my 3070 in 1080p in this game (NFSU2)

[cloud crypt]

well with a 4080 you will get about 40 to 50 in Quality without frame gen and in balanced (recommended) you will get above 60 for sure
i dont recommend to use frame gen because it creeates weird artifacts

and whats weird: with msi afterburner running in the background without any oc you will get even more fps, but make sure the FPS overlay is turned off

@dapper root

first one is with afterburner and second without

[dapper root]

Ok cheers 😎 👍

[vague sparrow]

oh damn, was gonna get a 3070 just to test out remix

looks like i have to wait a bit for a 4070

[cloud crypt]

i would recommend 40 series, but just for remix? if you gonna get a 4070 atleast make sure to get a Ti version, elsewise the 4070 has a worse performance than a 3080

[vague sparrow]

also im on 1080p so, frame gen would help ig

[cloud crypt]

yes, it would, but artifacts

[vague sparrow]

4070 seems fine for remix

[cloud crypt]

this is with a 4070Ti in Quality mode and frame gen.
In the first picture afterburnerr is running in the background, in the second afterburner is closed completely

[vague sparrow]

tbh 30fps won't hurt me

its the lag

and frame spikes

don't like that stuff

[uncut bay]

Is it Quad HD?

[cloud crypt]

1440p

in 1080p it would run even better

but for modding i have to rrun it in 1440p or 4K to get the best results (to edit the lights) because i have to see every detail

[bright hedge]

bruv move somewhere else ☠️ if its that bad

[rain nova]

I'll wait for the RTX 50 series, my RTX 2070 Super shouldn't run at 30 frames @ 1080p

and I'm Brazilian too

and I'm playing on 1080p @ 255hz

[cloud crypt]

yeeah, ill probably will stay another 1 to 2 years at my 4070Ti, and then ill upgrade again

[trail quail]

i will upgrade never

[graceful heron]

tmjt rei

3050 cries with this mod

[slender arch]

Me stuck on rtx 3060 mobile 6gb

[timid prairie]

Same

[bright hedge]

255hz ☠️ what u using 255hz for? Predicting future 🗿

[cloud crypt]

Nah, CSGO for example

[rain nova]

it's the limit of my panel (LG), with 255hz I can deactivate DAS mode and get 0 frame skip

but the real benefit is not having ghost playing valorant/cs

[cloud crypt]

well, there still is gjosting, but its extremely low. Not the Hz is important, the reaction time is too. My monitor has 180Hz but with 0.01ms reaction time

Its a lenovo with lg panel, forgot the model XD

[jade briar]

Can confirm runs like shit on 2060

Super

[vague sparrow]

doesn't look that bad

the "playing" part that is

looks like shit would be appropriate

cuz all the DLSS perf mode and stuff like that is basically carrying it

[jade briar]

Not even 30 fps

[vague sparrow]

i played at worse frame rates, believe me

i mean, it looks okay if you just have to see RT and roam around a bit

anything other than that? nope.

[slender arch]

even with dlss ultra perfomance?

[vague sparrow]

it can't run it

at 60fps

crazy cuz its 540p

💀

[jade briar]

Yeah

20 fps

[vague sparrow]

I mean it's a first gen rt card that's also entry level, should've managed your expectations

Still costs crazy like 50k used around here 💀💀💀

[slender arch]

damn

[cloud crypt]

50K? What currency? ill get it for 100€ here in germany

[vague sparrow]

It gets around $150ish when converted from Pakistani rupees (PKR)

I remember buying a 750ti in 2016 for 15k and it still costs the same due to inflation

[jade briar]

50k what

[cloud crypt]

Pakistani Rupees

[vague sparrow]

Donkey balls

[elfin beacon]

60

[vague sparrow]

Even worse

[elfin beacon]

yeah, the ecnomical condition of Pak is worse than my career

[vague sparrow]

Save more and get a 3060ti for 25 more American shekels

[elfin beacon]

same shit

[vague sparrow]

better investment

[elfin beacon]

its 75 to 85k pkr

[vague sparrow]

Generational improvements tho

4070 costs 240k lol

[elfin beacon]

yeah

buy used

better

[vague sparrow]

imma have to settle with a 3070 or 3080

They are priced pretty good in used

[elfin beacon]

yeah tbh yeah

costs between 110 to 130k used

[vague sparrow]

Strange, seen 3070 ti (Asus TUF) go for 95k used in local market

[elfin beacon]

used to

[vague sparrow]

fuck retailers

[cloud crypt]

wtf, what is a pakistanys income if they are that expensive

4070TI in germany is at 850€

[elfin beacon]

depends average is

[vague sparrow]

Less than 50k

[elfin beacon]

u dont wanna know

imo

[vague sparrow]

Avg is like 70k

[elfin beacon]

huh????

[vague sparrow]

yeah??

[elfin beacon]

u forgot labors

[cloud crypt]

wtf, than i would be rich in pakistan XD

[elfin beacon]

u bet

[vague sparrow]

you would be poor lol

[cloud crypt]

507355 PKR is my income

thats about 1630€

[vague sparrow]

And are you satisfied with it?

[elfin beacon]

the more u get, the less u are satisfied

[cloud crypt]

well, here in germany im just a bit above average, so no i am not

avarage in germany is at 1400€

[vague sparrow]

I got my 600k rent lol, won't stay for long 😂

[elfin beacon]

wdym

[vague sparrow]

House rents

Shush 🤫

[elfin beacon]

oh u

sit and enjoy

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-leonardo-dicaprio-django-unchained-meme-gif-18513725

[cloud crypt]

i would work something different if i could, i like to do graphics/game design XD

[slender arch]

to be honest turkish economy is fucked up for years

[velvet geyser]

Textures are all white, what did I do wrong ?

[jade briar]

Didn't properly download the textures

[vestal pier]

Hello guys, I just installed RTX to my game, can you please help we with settings and lightning?
Maybe you use an modified game for it

[cloud crypt]

first of all, u have the 0.2.0 version. we worrk on 0.3.0 which isnt released yet

i would recommend to install the latest dxvk and bridge remix und then reinstall 0.2.0 alpha

then it should work correctly