NFSU2 (Need For Speed Underground 2)

[ember cobalt]

okay

Skyrim crashes possibly the fastest i've ever seen it crash

[jade briar]

I can't begin to explain how wrong you are

[ember cobalt]

Remix isn't the goal with that game release, it's just a game release

all initial testing of Remix up until the open source release was done using the binaries from Portal RTX, and the updates made to it

we're basically just doing the same thing now until the open source release gets these updates

[jade briar]

better

[severe solstice]

i understand

[jade briar]

So did portal with rtx get these updates?

[severe solstice]

[tawny elk]

Checking out the branch now

Any day now it'll finish checking it out...

[ember river]

Lol. Did you install the LFS extension?

[tawny elk]

I switched over to gitkraken cause github desktop doesn't show branches at all

[safe patrol]

uh...yes it does

[tawny elk]

fug

[jade briar]

Well, I'm going to bed. The stream thingy was mostly uneventful, but it gave me some inspiration. Will not play prelude when I wake up, instead will just use the remix files and put them in other games to see what happens.

[tawny elk]

I meant like that

[ember river]

Im a terminal user, so I have a bit of a hard time helping out 😞

[tawny elk]

I can't stand just a big list and no explanation of what's the latest

[jade briar]

I'm terminally online

[safe patrol]

ok fair enough that's some good additional info

[safe patrol]

I'm a command line guy (I do linux for work) but I have desktop installed too mostly just so I know how to help other people with it

[tawny elk]

I don't do any of this for work so I need all the help I can get visually.

[severe solstice]

60 fps with no cull exe dream

[ember river]

I might as well start doing so. The readme im doing is focused on command line users. Ill have to spin up the desktop app and check their equivalents for the docs

[jade briar]

Well, culling has been fixed already. And dlss will handle the 60 fps part.

[safe patrol]

@balmy chasm hmm. one of the textures in the garageLobby is causing my game to freak out and quit rendering. If I disable 02011601_garageLobby.usda in my mod.usda it works fine. I haven't tested the rest of the garages yet but at least the career garage seems to work fine.

[tawny elk]

I'm not too sure how I feel about the textures in this shop @balmy chasm

Feels too damp?

[safe patrol]

hmm. ok I redid everything and now it's working. Not sure what changed but don't worry about it.

[tawny elk]

@ember river Mesh replacement appears to work now for me.

Are you good with me approving the merge?

Also can my lighting structure PR be looked at by someone?

[ember cobalt]

i can look at it, but i can't do anything

[tawny elk]

It makes it so much easier to track changes I make

[ember river]

With you now there are 3 instances of it working so yeah, please

[tawny elk]

Can I delete the branch too?

Can I delete all my closed branches actually?

[ember river]

wait

it is already merged, but on an older commit

nvm, it is actually allright

[ember river]

go ahead. Cleanup those big boys

[ember river]

I added a comment to it. Take a look at the changed files, something doesn't seems quite right 🤔
Some stuff went missing
https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NFSU2-RTX-Remix/pull/79/files

[tawny elk]

The mesh placeholder?

[ember river]

Nope, it is changing a lot of stuff in the mod.usda that endedup crashing with other replacements and losing some texture references

I'll have to go out now and socialize a bit guys. Be back later

[tawny elk]

Aw man

It seems OV really doesn't want to format the mod usda right. I think I'll try it by hand

[safe patrol]

that's why I've been using kim's script

[ember river]

For mod.usda it is easy to fix by hand

[safe patrol]

yeah that part I do by hand

review needed for a small change: added an exterior garage door texture for the performance shop. The original texture is extremely low res and looked super crappy
https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NFSU2-RTX-Remix/pull/83

one sec I'll get a screenshot

I think that gets applied to all the shop doors but I haven't confirmed yet

[tawny elk]

Okay, I believe my branch has the overwhelming majority of roadway lights in it now

[cobalt gull]

still requires 400+ W usage for the GPU? haha jk

that looking awesome pal

[tawny elk]

Need to get that 1800W power supply and dedicate a circuit for this.

[balmy chasm]

You don't want to know what is going on there in original game :harold:. Let's just keep it as a fact: this is Paint shop hall, not the painting room

[balmy chasm]

Guess you were referencing to the floor texture, because I didn't replace it after the fact it was replaced with some random .usda in repo.

just checked, it had 3 replacements in total, the one of them in mod_lights.usda somehow

[balmy chasm]

I have created a poll for garage textures. From what I've noticed that's just 4 lobbies which have differences. I'd like to ask not discuss publicly your own pick if possible.
@tawny elk @jade briar @ember river @safe patrol@cloud crypt
https://forms.gle/c2CYfsGwUiyg6C8r8

[jade briar]

I forgot to add it to the doc, but the garages definitely need more mesh replacements before they'll look good.

[balmy chasm]

I do agree. Especially Car lot

[trail quail]

Uncle burrito back on remix when

[jade briar]

Soooon™️

[tawny elk]

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time

Soon is equal to 9 years

[trail quail]

😎

[plain stag]

I wish you to make it, I understand you I have mental problems myself and if you want to chat I will try to help you 👌🏼👌🏼 keep it up 🤜🏻🤛🏻

[thorny pawn]

Love the polls, well done!

[safe patrol]

For future polls, it might be a good idea to include a screenshot of vanilla NFSU2 before the two choices so we can compare to how it originally looked like.

[thorny pawn]

good point

[tawny elk]

Did y’all want to vote on high level design choices for lighting for each district? I typically have some sketches and mood boards before starting on them.

[jade briar]

Yes

[rain terrace]

Anyone have screenshots of the Burger King and McDonald's signs in-game?

I just want to replace the images in this meme.

[balmy chasm]

Do you know if it is possible to add some global lights in the first place? So we don't get pitch black places where they have no light sources at all

[tawny elk]

That’s typically what the head lights are for, but I’d suggest adding a light polluted skybox to give some background illumination.

It’d help a lot with areas that I can’t reasonably add light to

[balmy chasm]

I have noticed Remix doing some Auto-Exposure in the background even with Eye-Adaptation off. That's the pain. So can we change hdri?

[tawny elk]

Yea we can change the skyboxes ez

[balmy chasm]

How though? Remember someone saying skydome captures randomly. Is it the way?

[tawny elk]

I don’t quite know how. I know @sharp sinew has changed a skybox before

It might just be modifying the material. It shows up in OV

[sharp sinew]

i added it as a mesh replacement but it blocked the sun out

[tawny elk]

Damn

[tawny elk]

https://polyhaven.com/a/moonless_golf

[balmy chasm]

Do you mean Distant Light source?

[sharp sinew]

yea

[balmy chasm]

Distant lights work?

[sharp sinew]

no the mesh replacement blocks the sunlight

looks cool though

[balmy chasm]

What happens when you hide the mesh then? Black sky but working sun?

[sharp sinew]

if you hide the mesh you dont see the mesh

[tawny elk]

Can we replace the sky mesh with our own

[balmy chasm]

I guess problem will be the same, right?

[sharp sinew]

i just slapped the mesh on the first non culling thing i saw

[tawny elk]

We could keep one of the distant light sources and tweak it to be a diffused light pollution sky.

[balmy chasm]

But

We have Sky brightness slider in Remix

It does affect HDRI to emit light

[sharp sinew]

skydome mesh to mess around with, any hdri maps to it

[jade briar]

Did you try what I suggested? Regarding figuring out where the sky is?

[balmy chasm]

Also that's our repo's Distant Light. Guess it doesn't work whatsoever

[sharp sinew]

if i cant find it in omni though its not good right?

[tawny elk]

The games distant light sources come in too dim to work. You can ramp them up to be visible but I have no idea what effects or their stability are.

[jade briar]

Hold on. I'll just record a video

[balmy chasm]

Game doesn't have this one. Didn't have it in any of my captures. That's what I found out in our repo

[sharp sinew]

I got max open and i'm down to clown

[jade briar]

That's a good pickup line

[sharp sinew]

I've pulled

[jade briar]

Out?

[ember river]

Does the translucent material has emissive too? Maybe an skybox that allows light to passthrough but also emits the sky hdri could work 🤔

[balmy chasm]

Translucent material of such scale may impact performance

[sharp sinew]

try it and see

[ember river]

Maybe there is some setting for the mesh like not being double sided allowing rays from the sun to pass

[jade briar]

I'm sorry for messing up all over the place. I got 50 things going through my head right now. Prelude fucked me up.

[sharp sinew]

ah i see, thanks buddy 🙂

[tawny elk]

So there is a way to replace the texture

[jade briar]

Yes. I figured it out a few weeks ago. Told u guys to try it. Twice. Everyone ignored me

[balmy chasm]

You can import .usd into Blender and skip .fbx step entirely

[jade briar]

Vanilla blender crashes

At least for me

[balmy chasm]

For you, yeah

[tawny elk]

I don’t ignore you

If we want, we can put up a poll of what hdris to use for the sky.

[ember river]

There is a proper blender for messing with USD in the OV launcher

[tawny elk]

God I wish I could use blender instead of OV.

Might even get annoyed enough to figure out how.

[balmy chasm]

Any, just make it work 🙏

[jade briar]

I don want it

[tawny elk]

You’ll have to try or wait till like 6pm EST for me to do anything.

[ember river]

Id put something with some interesting characteristics. Maybe some nice clouds. If it is a night city sky, there wont be stars roughly, so a cloudy one would be nice

[balmy chasm]

But make it work on 1 sky brightness

[safe fossil]

The entire game takes place at night anyway, no sun no moon

[balmy chasm]

No moon?

[safe fossil]

Iirc

[tawny elk]

On that note, can we go back to local tone mapping? Global crushes the blacks like crazy.

[safe fossil]

Also, an hdri with a sun in it doesn't work?

[jade briar]

We gonna do sky via mesh replacement?

[balmy chasm]

You can add up a local tonemapping thing. Even though I haven't seen a way to implement it yet

[jade briar]

I don't think that'll work

Wait It will

Since there's no sun to worry about

nvm

[tawny elk]

What do you mean, it’s in the rtx menu. @ember river switched it to global for some color grading a week ago, but it’s not very good for gameplay when everything is pitch black

[balmy chasm]

How do you setup local tonemapping then?

[tawny elk]

In the RTX menu? I’m not sure what you mean.

[balmy chasm]

Local

[tawny elk]

RTX menu > Post Processing > Tonemapper

[balmy chasm]

.-.
I thought you were talking about coloring different regions of the map with different tonemap

[tawny elk]

Ohhhhhh

Yea nah, not sure how to do that

[tawny elk]

https://polyhaven.com/a/belfast_sunset_puresky

Wait. We could use blender to create an HDRI for this

[jade briar]

Real hdri better

[balmy chasm]

Shaping clouds is such a pain

[jade briar]

Unleass you're really good

[tawny elk]

I’ll give it a shot. I have some add ons for sky creation that might help.

[jade briar]

Physical atmosphere addon uses

[tawny elk]

Night HDRIs of a light polluted city sky are kind of niche unless y’all want to go out and create one

[jade briar]

Physical atmo isn't thaaaaaat good quality wise

[tawny elk]

It isn’t?

[jade briar]

is it?

I saw this one guy who made a really realistic sky using noides

I'll try to find him

It was on twitter

[tawny elk]

Mine has volumetric clouds and atmospheric scattering.

Oh I have truesky

https://blendermarket.com/products/true-sky

[jade briar]

That's pretty good

This is a cool look

can I have it

[balmy chasm]

With space views?

[sharp sinew]

"sky_hash"

really should have noticed that 😛

[tawny elk]

Interesting

Wonder what happens when a mat is assigned to it

[ember river]

Maybe assigning a material stronger than descendants 🤔

[safe fossil]

I mean, the sky colour works because of the scattering in the atmosphere so yeah, that is the whole point of a physical sky system, it can't exists without it

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-nerdy-nerds-nerd-emoji-gif-25380417

[tawny elk]

Now do the math behind Rayleigh scattering

[safe fossil]

Yeah, that's the fancy word for it

And yeah, a physical sky system does indeed do the math for it by definition

[ember river]

We keep coming back to the same thing: Writting custom shaders

[ember cobalt]

probably a year away

sad

[tawny elk]

Maybe it’s in the toolkit?

And mark is just watching us suffer

[ember cobalt]

i think mark said that it's not supported at all

[jade briar]

mark

[tawny elk]

He said we could write our own in slang if we’d like.

It’s just a lot of work

[jade briar]

pls

[ember cobalt]

if you make a wavy foliage shader, let me know

[ember river]

Yeah this like the one used by opacity in the runtime rn
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/blob/main/src/dxvk/shaders/rtx/concept/surface_material/opaque_surface_material_interaction.slangh
Thing is, who is gonna take the burden

[tawny elk]

I vote for commissioning it to someone

[ember cobalt]

i will contribute $1

does that help?

[ember river]

Some unlucky fella

[tawny elk]

I was about to commission the guy who does silentpatch to figure out culling for this.

[ember cobalt]

does he even take commissions?

[tawny elk]

He does contract work

[ember cobalt]

if so, that's surprising

hm

[tawny elk]

He does a lot of work for GOG

[tawny elk]

Yea, any amount helps.

[ember cobalt]

i heard he was a bit of a creep

[sharp sinew]

nothing happens, same as it was before

if you can pass light through a material or mesh you can just slap a sky dome in the sky on a stable mesh

[ember cobalt]

idea for fake car paint

duplicate the mesh, make it slightly larger, apply a transparent material to it with a specular map for the shiny paint particles

[sharp sinew]

what you trying to do?

add a secondary specular?

[tawny elk]

Model each layer of paint

[jade briar]

That's a little sub optimal

[ember cobalt]

obviously 😛

[sharp sinew]

your denoisers going to go to town on that. and opacity is alpha test not fade

[ember cobalt]

i was joking to be clear. buuut it might kind of slightly work if you try hard enough

[sharp sinew]

having right issues with decals and this alpha test opacity material

[ember cobalt]

and opacity is alpha test not fade
i don't understand what you mean by this

[sharp sinew]

alpha test is hard. it's either 100% solid or 100% transarent with no middle ground

alpha fade is soft, you get all the levels of transparency

remix only uses alpha test

[ember cobalt]

ah, okay

[sharp sinew]

sucks cause you cant have half transparent decals

[ember river]

Unless you use the translucent material, afaik

[sharp sinew]

makes this overkill as i really just want to darken the wallpaper not slap a chocolate cake on it

[ember cobalt]

yeah, to clarify i was saying to apply the translucent material to the second mesh, not just apply a transparent texture

[ember cobalt]

lol

[sharp sinew]

but your second mesh would be either 100% transparent or 100% solid. no middle ground

[tawny elk]

Can’t you use something like OMM ? I thought there was a way for transparency in remix.

[ember cobalt]

i mean, when i applied water to Skyrim, it was kind of in the middle?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028600697463263314/1113891614746738769/image.png

[ember cobalt]

i also thought there was a way. i just woke up, so it's not gonna come to mind any time soon if there was

[sharp sinew]

we only got these aint we

[ember cobalt]

yeah, i used the Translucent material

[sharp sinew]

never touched it. do you have to open the decal capture, create new material, assign and save the usd?

[tawny elk]

Fun fact: Everything uses the translucent material in new Vegas by default

[ember cobalt]

replace the material reference with the translucent material

Mark wrote a tutorial somewhere

[sharp sinew]

he's very helpful aint he

[safe fossil]

Translucent usually means it's doing scattering in the material

The translucency in games is alpha blending

Which is multiply the colour together with the alpha value

[ember river]

Well, I managed to change the skybox with just a simple material replacement, but it doesn't applies 100% of the time

#usda 1.0
(
    upAxis = "Z"
)

over "RootNode"
{
    over "Looks"
    {
        over "mat_CD7D5B8568275F7E"
        {
            over "Shader"
            {
                asset inputs:diffuse_texture = @./textures/CD7D5B8568275F7E.dds@ (
                    customData = {
                        asset default = @@
                    }
                    displayGroup = "Diffuse"
                    displayName = "Albedo Map"
                    doc = "The texture specifying the albedo value and the optional opacity value to use in the alpha channel"
                    hidden = false
                    renderType = "texture_2d"
                )
            }
        }
    }
}

[safe fossil]

Remix doesn't do the latter i guess

[ember cobalt]

@sharp sinew
#1096847508002590760 message
#1096847508002590760 message

[ember cobalt]

i believe it actually does, but it's been a while since i messed with it

i'll check as soon as i can

omniverse signs me out every 2 days, gets annoying

[ember river]

Maybe it is a matter of finding all the hashes the game uses like the casino roof with 4 different albedos we had

[tawny elk]

The skybox changes based on location and weather

[tawny elk]

Weather being controlled by a function called weatherman

[balmy chasm]

Last time I tested, both OV and Remix did react to middle values of Alpha. But With the values lower than 1 any roughness map ignored

[sharp sinew]

just swap a decal with a blurred alpha and see for yourself, its alpha test 100%

[balmy chasm]

I've tested different alphas on car headlight glass mesh. And it did work

[ember cobalt]

i also recall it working in Barnyard and Skyrim. not quite sure what i did though

[ember cobalt]

what specific value did you adjust for this?

[balmy chasm]

Alpha map. I used photoshop to edit it

[ember cobalt]

i think that's what i did

[ember river]

So maybe the best thing we can do is replace individually for each condition and keep having different skybox based on weather and locations 🤔

[sharp sinew]

thats the second image of mid grey alpha

[balmy chasm]

Source image?

[sharp sinew]

40% opacity

why wont it fade! 😛

[balmy chasm]

Can we take a look at source image?

[ember cobalt]

is this decal on a separate mesh?

[blazing bone]

Yeah decals had a special solution to them

[sharp sinew]

5% Opacity lol

[blazing bone]

Idk if its possible to set it as a decal when its a replaced texture

[sharp sinew]

source

[balmy chasm]

Is it 5%?

[jade briar]

My brain's surface physically feels itchy

[dusky seal]

Can I stole this for my mw? XD

[ember river]

Go ahead lol. Just keep in mind it needs more replacements, this is for a single combination of location and weather

[balmy chasm]

It just works here

[sharp sinew]

hmmmmmm we got something going on here aint we

[ember cobalt]

given COD's issues with decals, it may just be a game issue

[sharp sinew]

yea talking to peter about it now

[balmy chasm]

Okay, it was easy
ah, yeah, another dynamic mesh thing

[cloud crypt]

Hey guys, mental Health gets better and i defenetly can get back to work on remix next week.

Time for more and better lights.
I know many things have changed and maybe some others have done very much in the last month. @tawny elk should have done a very good lighting mod in that time. But like Arnold Schwarzenegger said: i will be back

[pallid river]

I just got back from vacation

[jade briar]

When will mark be vack from vacation

[pallid river]

Gonna try some more ai cleanup for texture practice

Got to clean up one texture of artifacts before I left and I think I did okay

Not quite sure what the best way to blend is or what the best free software would be to use

[cloud crypt]

Roads look neat

[pallid river]

Was just using paint.net

[ember river]

Thx. They're 8k though. Since the UVs are in 8:1 ratio you endup with a very loooonng texture, only for the width be 1024 pixels

[pallid river]

are there any programs that have a content aware blend? Something that just varies pixel colors slightly in the brush area based on where you click on for variation? I’ve seen in it a MC skin maker so I’m assuming editing software would have it too

[ember river]

photoshop has a pretty neat one

[pallid river]

Yeah but not free 😦

[cloud crypt]

I can send you something

When i am home

[tawny elk]

I hope I did

[pallid river]

Thanks

Any progress toward reflectors?

[cloud crypt]

You did man.

[pallid river]

That was the last thing I saw before vacation

[ember river]

u mean the retroreflector shader? nothing at all. Writting custom shaders for remix is an introspective life choice rn

[pallid river]

Haha. Didn’t know if any more info was gleaned

[dusky seal]

I use gimp or medibang on my note 9

[pallid river]

Totally forgot about gimp

[ember river]

I personally highly recommend using Krita. I had my time of using GIMP in the past for a long time and now I would never go back

[surreal ruin]

Krita is the peak free one

I often use it for work as it does some stuff better than PS and the rest

[balmy chasm]

I'm going to bed. Not sure what 'circles' stand for, may be that's a way to blend states in. Other than that it seems there are only 3 states in freeroam

[ember cobalt]

i use 3:

• Krita
• GIMP
• Affinity Photo

i don't like using 3, it's just that none of them have all of the stuff i need

[tawny elk]

Affinity photo doesn’t seem to be good/intuitive for textures

[cloud crypt]

i do all my work in Photoshop and that works fine

[ember cobalt]

yeah, i'm sure it's better. just can't justify the cost

[ember cobalt]

it's my least favorite of the 3, unfortunately

[cloud crypt]

then just wait a bit, i am preparing smth

[ember cobalt]

your own Photoshop? that'd be cool 😛

[cloud crypt]

XD

[ember cobalt]

https://graphite.rs

i did see this recently

[surreal ruin]

Oh that looks sick

I've been needing a new vector editor

[cloud crypt]

could be great for vinyls

but adobe illustrator is the paid version XD

[trail quail]

ooh how do you replace textures?

sorry to jump in, just looking for anyone that knows how

[jade briar]

Someone help this poor sould. Dude's been asking around for quite some time

[trail quail]

I'm not a dude btw lol but yes, pls help me! anybody! in return, I give free advice

[jade briar]

who

[elfin beacon]

Ctrl+Z.

[trail quail]

??

Who??

Ctrl+Z?

[elfin beacon]

Sleeping

[trail quail]

clearly not

you're talking to me lol

[trail quail]

Wdym who?

[jade briar]

I got a ghost ping a minute ago

[trail quail]

oh, no that was me

I just deleted it to put it all in one message

rather than 3 separate messages

[tawny elk]

Using OV? Or you mean the actual art part?

[trail quail]

just the act of taking the texture and then being able to import a new one back in

I dont need to know about the kind of softwares

I would most likely use blender and bake

[ember river]

I'm writting some steps, wait a sec 😉

[trail quail]

Okie tyyy

E-man

https://tenor.com/view/lioncubfam-eman-lioncubs-gif-19734783

[jade briar]

There's already a pretty good tutoriakl in videos channel

[tawny elk]

Oh. Yea I’d suggest looking in here for general steps https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1108266959763685458

[ember river]

In a nutshell:

• Open the game and go to the place where you see the texture you want to replace
• Open the remix menu (Alt+X), go to Enhancements tab and disable the top toggle
• Hit the new button that shows up: "Capture scene in USD"
• This will generage a whole lotta of .usd files in your rtx-remix/captures folder.
• Open Nvidia Omniverse Launcher and launch "USD Composer"
• Use it to open the capture-datetime-of-your-capture.usd file. If your capture usd file is tiny like 1kb, wait a bit, the runtime is still processing stuff.
• On the top left corner of your 3D view, Open the light bulb menu and enable Camera Light
• Open the Camera menu and chose "Perspective"
• On the right, open the "Layer" tab, there are three buttons at the bottom, click the green + one to add a new layer, save it next to your rtx-remix/gameReadyAssets/mods/mod.usda as a usda file (Don't transfer the contents in the dialog). In this layer will be your replacement mods.
• Right click your new layer > Set Authoring Layer, so your changes will be added to this layer's usda file.
• Use the mouse right click + WASD to navigate around and select your texture object
• On the right there is the "Property" tab, with the white sphere material icon, click it. From there you can select new .dds texture paths for diffuse, roughness, metallic and friends.dds...
• Once you're done editing your material, hit the blue save button on your authoring layer.
• Now again in USD Composer, File > Open > your mod.usda file.
• On the three buttons, now hit the first to insert a sublayer, insert your newly created usda file and save mod.usda
• Enjoy the replacements

Make sure to check the pinned messages in the #1096847508002590760 too
Arrange your mods folder as you wish, just make sure there is a mod.usda file which references every other usda file

@jade briar now I see that calculator video about replacements in remix fits wonderfully

[tawny elk]

“It’ll be easier in the tool kit”(tm)

[jade briar]

yep

[ember river]

So I just pushed a new commit adding a docs/ directory with that cheat sheet README for git I was talking about, think it is ready for review, but if you guys have suggestions on what else to add before, feel free to point out on the PR:
https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NFSU2-RTX-Remix/pull/80

Here the README.md can be viewed in the neat formatted markdown way we all love:
https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NFSU2-RTX-Remix/tree/install-instructions-update/docs

[jade briar]

So what happened to the sky stuff. I was so busy with prelude that I completely missed the chat.

[tawny elk]

It work, here’s the mats #1103377328530276403 message

[jade briar]

Where new texture

[tawny elk]

Uh

We we're talking about it for a little bit

Thought were going to go with creating our own HDRI with blender and truesky addon

[ember river]

The UVs for the sky mesh are, you guess it...

[tawny elk]

Let's see em

[jade briar]

Fucked?

[tawny elk]

how bad could they be?

[jade briar]

I'd rather we just replace the sky mesh with a normal UV sphere, so we can use normal 360 images.

[ember river]

They repeat the texture twice from horizon to top/zenith and around too

[tawny elk]

Can we get a visual?

Replace the texture with one of them UV map grids

[jade briar]

Texture tiles twice horizontally. Kinda saw it coming.

[ember river]

There is a seam looking 45 degrees upwards, you basically need the textures to be seamless vertically

[tawny elk]

Classic Blackbox

[jade briar]

Mark fix

[ember cobalt]

could replace the sky with a black texture so it really lives up to the name

[ember river]

A full mesh replacement it is 👍

[ember cobalt]

i need to replace the sun in Barnyard. annoyingly it's not captured at all. if you could, could you detail at some point what you're doing to replace the skybox? if it's just the normal process, then don't worry about it

[jade briar]

The first time I saw the skybox mesh, I made up my mind

I didn't even bother checking uvs

[tawny elk]

I kinda wanna see what they game would look like with a texel or uv map mode

[jade briar]

What the heck is this thing?

[ember river]

Yeah, just regular process for materials. The thing is the materials change hashes depending on time of day, weather, location, etc.
#1103377328530276403 message

[tawny elk]

God I want to be able to add comments/descriptions in usda's so bad so we know what things are besides making the name extremely long

[ember cobalt]

i think you can

[tawny elk]

[ember river]

That would be nice, but the first time someone saves the file in OV the comments go through the window

[tawny elk]

Ugh

[ember cobalt]

                    colorSpace = "auto"
                    customData = {
                        asset default = @@
                    }
                    displayGroup = "Specular"
                    displayName = "Roughness Map"
                    hidden = false
                )```
you can add comments in the displayGroup and displayName sections here

and additionally in other places. i just have to look up how

[tawny elk]

Here's something to cheer us up: http://markcastle.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/UVMap.png

A really big UV map to peep the horror with

[tawny elk]

Do they presist through saves?

[ember cobalt]

yeah

unless you're using my MagicUSDA script, since it just makes a new stage every time

stage.SetMetadata('comment', 'Step 1: Start and end time codes')
this seems like it may work too (this is a line for a python script)

[jade briar]

You can generate one of these in blender

[ember cobalt]

huh

@tawny elk did you ever try just doing it like this?

# this is a comment```

[tawny elk]

It goes away if you save it in OV

[ember cobalt]

sad

as far as i know, the customdata thing persists

but you can only specify that per shader

[jade briar]

Mark. Where's the toolkit.

[ember cobalt]

ah crap

i'm too tired to think

[tawny elk]

Soon in vavle time.

[ember cobalt]

just ignore everything i said. customData can be custom, but i don't think you can modify the other ones

try putting a comment in the customData section @tawny elk

that should persist, as it's within the valid structure of a usda file

                    customData = {
                        # commenting is fun
                        asset default = @@
                    }
                )```

[jade briar]

But prelude released lesss than a year after portal

[tawny elk]

Making dinner right now

[ember cobalt]

spaghetti

[tawny elk]

Close its chicken sausage pasta with bell peppers and a tomato sauce.

[ember cobalt]

yum

[tawny elk]

Done 😋

[tawny elk]

Do you think if we begged nvidia hard enough they'd give us early access?

We can all send them a Barbenheimer card

[ember river]

A pink leather jacked

[ember cobalt]

so

did any of you try the prelude files on this game?

they improved the denoiser drastically. wondering how it'll look

[ember river]

I've got an older 3060, can't enjoy much of it afaik

[ember cobalt]

it'll help any card

less ghosting

also performance was supposedly improved as well, but i wasn't able to test that

[pallid river]

Didn't even know it dropped I'm checking it out now

is it ahead of the repo or something? @ember cobalt

[balmy chasm]

You can actually use 'Add' function of OV to add any custom property to any file, just like we did with custom int preserveOriginalDrawCall = 1. As for comment section you might want to add custom string field called 'Comment' and use it to fill in any random info you'd like. I did so with my lights and textures .usda for credentials. But in the end I just used Comment section of .usda file which was always there. and it won't get deleted because it follows OV's structure

[ember river]

Lets nocull the whole city.
You go away, and your framerates goes too

[elfin beacon]

WHY?

[tawny elk]

If only

[ember river]

Good morning y'all

[elfin beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/dinner-cat-walking-funny-funnycat-gif-13574859

[ember cobalt]

yes, it has improvements over the current open source release

improved denoiser and performance afaik

[humble niche]

DLSS3.0 is also back, which I can only assume will never be in the open source release.

[ember cobalt]

it should be in there

iirc it's just temporarily disabled

[jade briar]

How do I disable rtxio?

[ember cobalt]

you can't

it only works when implemented though, like in Prelude. afaik you can't do that in any other games

[jade briar]

The problem with need for speed is that, remix just randomly stop responding. I can hear the game audio working normally in the background. The problem also exists in prelude. I found out that it freezes when trying to load assets in fullscreen mode.

The game runs really smooth thos, and the image quality is pretty good.

[balmy chasm]

Happens to me when not enough VRAM happens, mostly after changing texture live in OV

[jade briar]

24 gigs

[cloud crypt]

I dont think its a Vram problem. Maybe a cpu usage problem? It seems to me that remix uses more cpu power than before

[ember cobalt]

i saw a lot of stuttering and performance issues with the new build in Prelude

i'm convinced it's RTXIO based on the way it behaves

but if it's happening outside of Prelude, then maybe not

[novel sparrow]

Hi, I might have a shitty question that was already answered some time ago, but I've been struggeling to get some lights into URL and drifts. in WIP 4 I saw it should be fixed, but even after installing newest version (I installed the game not even week ago) its still dark. Any idea?

[balmy chasm]

It doesn't look like you have anything modded at all, just remix

[novel sparrow]

Well I downloaded the files from github, if you think that

But I can try to do it again, I might have forgotten it

[cloud crypt]

Chech the last pin, it has all you need

[tawny elk]

Anyone wanna do some mood boarding?

[ember river]

For?

[tawny elk]

Lighting

[safe patrol]

Sorry I'm at a cabin touching some grass for the rest of the week.

[blazing bone]

They always tell me to touch grass

But i ask them

Where?:

[tawny elk]

The tip

[blazing bone]

https://tenor.com/view/travolta-desert-dry-drought-gif-20765263

Ignore that in the middle

That's fake

[ember river]

Tip: Use gray bg. Pure white adds "bias" to the look & feel of the colors

[tawny elk]

True

Night mode

||Yes I know the text is hard to read, next one will have white text||

[jade briar]

The next time it rains, I'm gonna drive around and record the asphalt

At night

[tawny elk]

Touch asphalt?

It looks a lot less wet than you think tbh

[jade briar]

Yeah

I noticed that yesterday

Asphalt has low specularity

Too bad we can't adjust that

[tawny elk]

Low reflectance as well.

[jade briar]

It all circles back to having good shaders

[tawny elk]

It's like .1 or less

[jade briar]

Did I stutter?

[tawny elk]

Specularity and reflectance are different?

[jade briar]

How

[tawny elk]

Specularity is how it handles reflections no?

[jade briar]

Roughness. Is.... Roughness

And spec is the amount of light the surface reflects back regardless of how smooth it is

[tawny elk]

I guess? I mean reflectance is how a material absorbs the EM spectrum.

[jade briar]

Idk what em means, but I do know what I'm talking about

[tawny elk]

I'm talking in physical properties, not really orientated towards PBR limitations.

[jade briar]

[tawny elk]

Well they end up becoming PBR orientated but not in a more round about way.

Anyway, asphalt is very dark

[tawny elk]

We could always just model the rough surface of asphalt

[jade briar]

That'd be a bit. Sub optimal.

[tawny elk]

But if you stand still with the ref denoiser on

It'd look really nice

[jade briar]

Path tracing really isn't for games with fast movement

[ember river]

Could be worse. Could be a fast paced FPS

[timid prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/눈알을굴리다-쳐다보다-침묵-아우라-콜랩아시아-gif-17929504

[jade briar]

Huh

[timid prairie]

well, I think we've done too many things for that conclusion, and that's why it's a late conclusion, it's better to finish things before the end than to abandon something halfway through because of something like that.

[ember river]

I don't see that as a down factor, not at all. PT being good or not, the visuals and the experience of being able to replay this classic game with nowadays graphics is a feeling impossible to describe

[tawny elk]

When using the less soaked E-man texures, the game looks a lot better since the denoiser isn't going wild

[jade briar]

I said that because the shit ton of noise there is with every frame. Things move so guick that the denoiser isn't able to accumulate anything, and is basically denoising every frame.from scratch.

[thorny pawn]

it's just free motionblur /s

tbf Quake RTX is a really fast paced game, i'm sure it'll improve a lot, NV is hard at work to ensure that

[jade briar]

I'm not talking about just fast pased

I'm mainly talking about fast movement

The camera moving at 200mph really causes the scene th be noisy

[tawny elk]

Wonder if making the road less reflective would help

[dusty grove]

Image still die regardless of reflections, light sources etc.
Just try to drive with bumper/hood camera, remix doesn't like that at all. (Cyberpunk too btw)
The only way to improve image stability (besides more rays, more pixels, more fps) woud be new denoiser like Neural Radiance Cache, wich doing some magic, but only remix devs know when it releases.

[gritty saddle]

Hello! I installed everything according in this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U32QaB23Mws&ab_channel=HellRaven) but when my games starts it crashes.It opens for like a second and then just crashes.Can someone help me?

[tawny elk]

Hm. Maybe we should ask the prelude devs how they approached lighting a scene.

Or do a frame capture and load it up in OV ourselves 👀

From what I saw in game, it was a ton of emissive surfaces rather than light surfaces. But I could be wrong

Thought: if we turn on white materials is the image still noisy?

That would point towards the materials in the scene needing work in order to get rid of the noise.

[gritty saddle]

I also have this when i start the game

[jade briar]

That's normal

REinstall

Carefully

[gritty saddle]

is the video tutorial good?

i did everything as it said

[jade briar]

I hope it is. I haven't watched it

[gritty saddle]

is there another tutorial i can follow?

[jade briar]

#1103377328530276403 messagetry this

[gritty saddle]

ok,thank you

[gritty saddle]

Is it normal to crash when i turn vsync off?

[jade briar]

You shouldn't mess with that

[gritty saddle]

well,it opened but the game is so slow

[tawny elk]

Yea it do be like that.

[gritty saddle]

should i change smth from the Alt X menu?

[jade briar]

What card are you using? I have the settings set to high. You can change that for better performance

[gritty saddle]

RTX3070

[jade briar]

PRess alt x and click on graphics settings menu at the top

[gritty saddle]

The enter button deosnt work on that menu

so idk how to brwose it properly

[jade briar]

Just use mouse

[gritty saddle]

ok

btw,yhe vsync option turns automatically on

even if the tutorial says to turn it off

[tawny elk]

@ember river any thoughts on this?

@jade briar as well

[ember river]

Never tested it. Isn't there a debug view specifically for denoising?

[tawny elk]

No it just shows the plain white material. I’m trying to figure out if out if there’s some material property that is causing all the noise that we see compared to prelude.

[jade briar]

That is one of the ways of all time to figure out where the noise is coming from

[tawny elk]

Do you think it's a good idea to try?

[jade briar]

Yeah.

[jade briar]

@tawny elk The light is so intense that You can't see a thing in white material mode.

Okay nvm. It's the overbright issue. I'm using prelude files.

How did we fix this?

[ember river]

It was a specific cursed light source that I removed

[ember cobalt]

looks like the sun got angry

[jade briar]

So what's the status on the repo? Have adam's reworked lights been merged yet?

I haven't updated in a while

[ember river]

Nope, rn it is fine

No overbright anymore

[jade briar]

I'll just update. I don't think you got my question.

[ember river]

The amount of W / sqr meters seems to be enough for terraformation, I guess

[ember river]

No adam's work has been merged in a while, there isn't any overbright in the current repo state either

[jade briar]

right

[jade briar]

Is readme changes in main yet?

[tawny elk]

If that's mine, it's cause I'm under the impression that it's just road textures and I didn't want them to conflict with e-mans

[jade briar]

Okay. Github geniuses. How do I update my files. To latest commit. Through github desktop.

[tawny elk]

You pull the main branch

[jade briar]

[tawny elk]

Discard all your changes if you have any

[jade briar]

Ah

[ember river]

There are a few things in uncle_burrito.usda file that weren't migrated yet

[jade briar]

hmm

Like?

[ember river]

I'm judging by looking att the usda file, many of the stuff are referencing the captures folder, honestlye idk what is and what isn't important to keep

[tawny elk]

There's 5 non capture materials by my count

[jade briar]

I think those are the player car, and a few traffic cars I gave reflective shader before whoever it is who made the pbr maps for them

How do I see the download progress?

[tawny elk]

You don't afaik :^)

[jade briar]

That's sub optimal

[tawny elk]

The hidden progress bar

[jade briar]

Github try to download 5mb challenge (hard)

[tawny elk]

Yep

It's fun aint it

[jade briar]

It's taking too long. I have no progress bar, and no down speed indicator.

speed

[tawny elk]

I wish there was like a way for everyone to have their own repo of assets, and then we just sync them together in this one.

The syncing when changing branches also takes a bit :/

[jade briar]

This is taking too long. IS it even doing anything?

[ember river]

I'm pretty sure you guys didn't install the LFS extension. The .dds and .usd files are setup to be uploaded as large binary files in a much faster way

[tawny elk]

I did 😦 it just goes really slow for some reason

[jade briar]

Feel like pulling my hair out. While this thing tries to pull main.

[ember river]

You must download, install and run the command

[jade briar]

Think I have it

[ember river]

weird. On my machine it downloads pretty quickly, like downloading it raw from GDrive or something

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[jade briar]

hmm

Don't mind me

[tawny elk]

Are you using the github client?

[tawny elk]

Cause it was miserabbly slow for me for whatever reason as well

[ember river]

Not yet, I'm still using the command line

[tawny elk]

Gitkraken ended up being way faster to use

[ember cobalt]

basically all of them are archived channels from before your time here

[jade briar]

Ah.

Fair

Also the server icon

Kinda mid

It's like. The hello world of path tracing.

[ember cobalt]

until there's an official logo to use, we're pretty much just keeping it

[jade briar]

We can have a little fun.

Slowly but surely.

[dusky seal]

although it is an easy way or you could explain to me how to replace meshes

[jade briar]

"Easy way"
Good luck

[tawny elk]

Easiest way is to wait till there's a better way

[dusky seal]

Thanks xD

[ember river]

Start here, reading carefully without skipping any steps. But keep in mind, it is a very manual, full of trial and error process:
#1096847508002590760 message

[jade briar]

Screw it. I'll just let it dl overnight.

[dusky seal]

i just updated remix and for some reason now the game doesn't die when i speed up in free roam did they change something?

[jade briar]

wait

[jade briar]

They change a lot every day.

How do I

[dusky seal]

i guess my version was too old

[jade briar]

halp

[ember river]

Oh boy

[jade briar]

I don't mind if these changes are overwritten. It was just experimentation.

[tawny elk]

Just select Use the modified file from origin/main I believe and that'll overwrite what you have.

[jade briar]

Okay, it updated

Guess, I'm not going to bed now

[ember river]

Is the git desktop clean, showing no files changed?

[jade briar]

Yes

Well, the curse of the light is still here

[ember river]

did you copy the rtx-remix-defaults/rtx.conf to your folder?

[jade briar]

My eyes

I can do that

The damn light

It only appears when I disable denoise

@tawny elk

Is this supposed to look like this?

[ember river]

I can't tell from the pics if you got the latest stuff, but yeah mine looks like this rn

EAWorld is reworking the garages lights on his branch

[jade briar]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[tawny elk]

I can't remember where I put mine. I think I archived them.

[jade briar]

Ah. No lights had been added to that area?

Adam pls confirm

[tawny elk]

Probably not. I've only had time to rework the roadways and the hotel plaza area

[jade briar]

Even dlss fg can't keep up here.

[tawny elk]

Switch the quality settings to ultra. Fixes FPS problems for whatever reason

[ember river]

lol

Yeah this is how the game looks for me too

[jade briar]

For dlss?

[jade briar]

Makes sense

@ember river

This normal?

[ember river]

I'm looking at this pic and the asphalt seems a bit weird

[jade briar]

Yes

Looks like baked in ao

[jade briar]

Where are the road textures located?

[ember river]

gameReadyAssets\02_materials\03_global\01_roads (020301)

[jade briar]

lots of blacks here

@ember river There's a lot of blacks in the rough here. That'

That's undesireable

I'll tell you why

Lemme find the messages

[tawny elk]

0 roughness makes it use the super sharp reflections PT

I was thinking about this while reading about PBR today

[jade briar]

@ember river

[ember river]

That is pretty cool to know

[tawny elk]

From adobe's PBR book

[ember river]

I'm not sure if they're perfect black tones but I can bump them up a tiny bit just to avoid the threshold

[tawny elk]

Here's the PDF. It's a really good read: https://academy-api-adobe.substance3d.com/courses/b6377358ad36c444f45e2deaa0626e65/attachments/2b57526e-4bf3-4fd6-ae88-e9a9313a35cc

[jade briar]

Also. Technically speaking. Rough maps don't usually have such high contrast noise in them. I make try to come up with a better rough map later.

Don't mind me. I'm just getting back into modding.

[ember river]

I have the editable files and a complex chainner setup to recreate them all in a single run

[jade briar]

Are brighter headlights not merged yet?

[ember river]

I was following a bit of feedback on the threads about the asphalt looking like someone else's, so I made them almost pitch black. If you guys would like to change I can open a new branch to work on it

[tawny elk]

Yes please

[jade briar]

Prelude branch crashing ever 5 seconds

Are these new?

[ember river]

ask no more. I'm tired of mesh replacements screwing up each step I make

[tawny elk]

I'm gonna see if I can recreate it in substance designer

[jade briar]

I touched asphalt the other day. It's pretty dark irl

Very dark

mmmm dlss 3

Okay, so apparantly dlss 3 is broken.

Anyways.

[tawny elk]

If you'd like, I can run the files through substance sampler to generate the maps and such

[ember river]

Lemme just see this beauty doing its work one more time 🥲

[ionic prawn]

@ember river E ai quase pronto

[ember river]

@tawny elk is your Roadway light rework branch ready to merge, should we make a release from that then @jade briar ?

If it comes to be approved

[tawny elk]

It was ready yea. That's why I made the PR

[jade briar]

Uhh. I hadn't been keeping up the past month. I'll look around tomorrow and find more things that might need tweaking. Like the roads.

[ember river]

Right, I'm working on the roads and next I'll be reviewing and merging the lights branch

[jade briar]

I'd also like two more things replaced. The skybox, and the metal railing on the highway. This way, most of the main highway could be called done.

A little verticle slice, if you will.

[tawny elk]

The guard rail?

[jade briar]

Yes.

I think it'd look great with a hd metallic texture.

[tawny elk]

A galvanized steel one

[jade briar]

Galavenized

[tawny elk]

Something like this

https://ambientcg.com/view?id=Metal039

[ember river]

I'm reworking the common walls around the roadways with new meshes, one of the things I'm planning to replace is the guard rails

Thoughts?

[tawny elk]

👍

[ember river]

I like it. Gives a bit of that washed out asphalt vibes from LA

Aight, i'll be out for a while, probably might come back tomorrow. I uploaded new roads for you guys to test and give some feedbacks at the asphalt-adjustments branch:
https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NFSU2-RTX-Remix/tree/asphalt-adjustments

intersections and pedestrian crossings weren't touched

[jade briar]

What am I looking at?

[tawny elk]

The asphalt

[digital salmon]

the license plate light is somehow abnormal, on my car it illuminates the asphalt))

[jade briar]

Show

Asphalt looks good now

[jade briar]

Oh. Uhhhh

Uh huh

Right

[ember river]

A Mercosul license plate on a vw golf, a true mark of a Brazilian car

[ember river]

Oh actually nevermind, it just looks quite a bit like Mercosul plates, taking a closer look it seems to be an European pattern, I guess 🤔

[jade briar]

[trail quail]

Kim has actually put together a little program that automates some of the process and correctly converts files

[trail quail]

🤨

[jade briar]

[ember river]

Yup, I found and wrote the original fix to the vertices in the meshes, Kim implemented some more functionality on it and the script ended up being a quite handy tool until the so awaited toolkit comes out 🤔

[trail quail]

Oh okay, so why didn't you mention it? Haha

[ember river]

I thought the threads were leading to it. Haven't checked them lately

[tawny elk]

Them aftermarkets 👀

I can tweak the plate lights to be more aftermarket looking if y’all like

I know the look very well

[digital salmon]

did) just keep in mind that in 2004 there was no diode backlighting of the number))

[tawny elk]

Yea that’s why I went with the more warm color.

[digital salmon]

bulb left 2023 right 2004)

[jade briar]

We're all over the place with the "era of lighting"

[ember river]

I think we should go with whale oil candles

[digital salmon]

send a screenshot of the car (from the game) with the number above the bumper

[tawny elk]

Finally we can really see what the path tracer can really denoise.

[tawny elk]

I honestly don’t think it had any plate lights.

[digital salmon]

one way or another, from the backlight of the number, the light should fall on the bumper

Why does the neon sign reflect when I look at the car from behind.
but it doesn't reflect when I look at it from the front?

[tawny elk]

Culling

Apply the anticulling patch

[jade briar]

Just wait until Adam removes the virus from the anti culling patch

[digital salmon]

it's not plausible

[tawny elk]

You don't have the patch applied?

Ya'll be missin out

[jade briar]

I have. But windows hates it

Like really hates it

[tawny elk]

Do you have UAC cranked to max?

[jade briar]

Defender deletes it. And when I allow it through there, windows.tells.me to stop when I try opening it.

[ember river]

My windows thinks it is supposed to run as administrator, I run and the thing simply doesn't loads lights in the game

[tawny elk]

Ugh

[jade briar]

Anti cull patch works flawlessly

[ember river]

I didnt try the one adam sent me via dm though

[tawny elk]

Yea try that one

[jade briar]

(virus)

[tawny elk]

I should post that file somewhere inconspicuous 👀

[ember river]

We're all using powerful rtx cards here. Im pretty sure adam is into cripto social engineering virus stuff

[jade briar]

Yes

[tawny elk]

I ain't got time for that

[jade briar]

THATS WHAT A HACKER WOULD SAY

Gottem

[tawny elk]

[jade briar]

Also. The sine wave walls look a little scraggly

That's how I can describe it

Idk why

[tawny elk]

UV's prob be fucked

[jade briar]

Nah

There's something with the texture itself

[digital salmon]

when will be the best rear number ray tracing?

😼

[tawny elk]

Turns out I have tons of wet asphalt pictures from meets 👀

[ember cobalt]

for a second, i was wondering how you got the glass looking so good, lol

[ember river]

I might've gotten a little bit lazy with them, iirc

[jade briar]

Huh

[jade briar]

Post all.

[tawny elk]

If you're good you get more

[jade briar]

What if I say please

[jade briar]

I don't see any wet asphalt in this

[tawny elk]

The garage was damp

[digital salmon]

golf 2 💚

[ember river]

Look, a guard rail reference

[tawny elk]

All part of my 8 year plan to use these refences

[ember river]

I wonder why they all have this "W" crosscut shape

[tawny elk]

the guard rails?

[ember river]

Same principle as trusses?

Sry, H-beams

[tawny elk]

No it's shape deflects vehicles

[ember river]

Fascinating

[tawny elk]

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/guardrailsafety/guardrail101.pdf

I don't particular know the physics of how, but it's probably similar to a jersey barrier.

[ember river]

I see

[tawny elk]

Just a thought: Would it be worthwhile to mark certain meshes or textures as “Hold Off” for mesh replacements rather than trying to retexture them?

[ember river]

How would this mark be done?

[tawny elk]

Dunno. Bunch of screen shots and a map?

[ember river]

Hm... I've been thinking on a CI/CD pipeline to ensure replacements won't be repeated GitHub and unused assets that could be discarded, among many other checks, all done programatically per commit per PR

[dusky seal]

You who live in the first world, what color should this light be? (I'm going to change the intensity)

[ember river]

@tawny elk is the guy

[dusky seal]

?

hes a first world player? hehe

[ember river]

wut, no. He is the one doing lights in U2 lately

[dusky seal]

ooo

xD

[ember river]

Asphalt adjustments PR awaiting approval
https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NFSU2-RTX-Remix/pull/85

[astral estuary]

hey

how can i download this?

[ember river]

Check the pinned messages

[astral estuary]

dont have it

:/

[ember river]

This icon top right 😉

[astral estuary]

thx

[dusty grove]

E man how do u did mesh replacement? What shoud u do for that? When i put mesh under ingame asset mesh game doesn't loads in mesh

[astral estuary]

need the original game?

could it be this version?

[ember river]

Did you follow the steps from the threads and used Kim's scripts to fix the meshes in the USD? It is a complicated process rn

[dusty grove]

Nope, thanks for pointing out.

[ember river]

You should own a copy of the 1.2 patch version at least

[astral estuary]

ok ok

ty

[ember river]

Here you start:
#1096847508002590760 message

[astral estuary]

I don't have these files

where to download???

[tawny elk]

Could be done with GitHub projects 👀

[ember river]

Use the 0.2.0 release instead:
https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NFSU2-RTX-Remix/releases/tag/v0.2.0-alpha

[tawny elk]

Prob a nice HPS orange, LPS green, or pure white.

[ember river]

It is not the same. Those would be scripted pipelines that run performing several tests to check if nothing was broken and all that stuff I've metioned

[astral estuary]

bro

it's a game from 2004

do you really expect me to buy it?

[ember river]

You're supposed to do whatever you're up to, nobody is gonna stop you, as long as you don't encourage, share or even mention any kind of piracy. Think on the flip side: Many ppl in this server work on the software industry making software for a living, some at Nvidia itself, it only makes sense that the guidelines explicitly forbids such things, not to mention morally speaking.
Just follow the server guidelines and we should all be friends 😉

[severe solstice]

I have purchased portal prelude , what files do i need to replace in need for speed to get dlss 3? i replaced the trix folder and the game doesn't work. @ember cobalt

[hollow oak]

Bought?

[severe solstice]

purchased bad translation sory

[ember cobalt]

just copy .trex and d3d9.dll

[hollow oak]

Oh all g

Just worried u got scammed or smtg

[severe solstice]

nice, now works but activating fg crashes the game

waiting for @jade briar

[severe solstice]

np

[sage wraith]

because you using china lights^^

[trail quail]

all my traffic cars lighning red

and idk why

[balmy chasm]

Missing texture. Your rtx-remix/mods folder has to be around 2 Gb size if you installed things succesfully

[trail quail]

ok thx

its 1,5mb xd

where can i install the 2gb size mods folder?

[balmy chasm]

Check Releases on our repo

[trail quail]

where is repo?

[severe solstice]

https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NFSU2-RTX-Remix/releases/tag/v0.2.0-alpha

[trail quail]

thx

oh that should work cuz its much bigger thx

if some one else have the same problem mine was called rtx remix master and the right one is called rtx remix alpha

[jade briar]

Same

[digital salmon]

beautiful reflections gone

🥲

[jade briar]

@tawny elk

Wake up adam. YOu got work to do

[digital salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/blin-keanu-reeves-cyberpunk2077-wake-the-fuck-up-samurai-gif-20490420

[timid prairie]

I don't know why, but I'm reminded of a Ricky Gervais joke.

[tawny elk]

What are you looking for to be changed?

[jade briar]

I'm looking for no culling to be present

[tawny elk]

Ugh the game must do something different there

Try changing your camera to the far one.

I won’t be able to do much till like 7pm EST. Got a fun filled day scheduled.

[crude whale]

anyone willing to help here? https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1106867078926962759

[balmy chasm]

Can't really remember anyone having such an issue 🤔

[jade briar]

So.

We doing anything today?

[tawny elk]

Might push my hotelplaza work into emans repo and start worn in another.

[jade briar]

where is e amn

I need him

[ember river]

Heyo

[jade briar]

E-man

Teach me mesh replacements

[tawny elk]

Anyone need some reference photos? I’m in Indianapolis walking around 👀

[jade briar]

Is it raining?

[tawny elk]

Dry as a bone

But there’s lots of worn roads

[jade briar]

hmm

useful

Take photos

[ember river]

Well, well...

• to begin, if you're a blender user, you're gonna need to use the blender from OV launcher. This one has a very important option that regular blender doesn't: triangulate meshes on export, with some other options
• Make your model as you wish and define the materials nodes and stuff as you want, just keep in mind that for now the only useful part exported from blender is the mesh. Materials can be discarded as you will setup materials in OV later
• Once exported the mesh as USD, you need to use Kim's scripts to fix that little issue with interpolation and stuff
• And then you open the mesh in OV, select the mesh -> Create -> Material -> Add MDL File -> Select 02_materials/AperturePBR_Opacity.mdl and assign the textures (diffuse, rough, normal, etc.)
• If you want, you can rearrange the material inside the mesh prim and delete the Looks prim it creates to simplify it, doesn't really matter as long as it gets assigned to the mesh
• Save it
• Now you open a capture, add and set your usda file as a authoring layer, find the mesh_HASH you want to replace (not instances, just like for materials replacements), delete the original mesh prim, right click the mesh_HASH prim -> Add -> Reference -> Select the mesh.usd
• Save the mod layer
• Enjoy

fuk, missclicked enter before the time

[tawny elk]

Anything in particular?

[jade briar]

Roads?

Can't really think of much

It rained today, but I was lazy

[ember river]

Right I edited the message now @jade briar

I haven't been using Kim scripts honestly, out of lazyness, since I had my own running on windows context menu (right click menu), but might be easy to setup, I think you can run it inside OV

[ember river]

That is interesting, if the modifier still allows you to manipulate the mesh as quads to preserve a good modelling topology (Ex: for loop cuts/select and such) then it might be very useful

[jade briar]

It does

I thought you knew about that

[ember river]

I never noticed this modifier over there. I knew about triangulating in edit mode and at exporting time

Important: If you use the OV blender, use this settings to export the mesh. Mainly:

• don't convert to centimeters
• Leave the materials prim name empty in Stage section (Not necessary, just to not create a Materials scope prim when exporting)
• Export only the mesh in Export Type section
• Mark triangulate meshes in Geometry
• Unmark anything in Materials section
  Everything else leave as is

[ember cobalt]

if you meant mine, i don't think it can run in OV due to using command line arguments. i can probably make a separate version to run in OV though

[ember river]

I was planning on doing that, but got sidetracked with many other things to do in the game and didn't take the time to do that. If you feel like it, would be awesome to have such an option

Hey @tawny elk , are you using a different tone mapping setting than the one from defaults/rtx.conf? I feel the roadway lights a bit too dim in your PR

[jade briar]

Why is this hdr sooo noisy

[jade briar]

It was almost perfect

This one's pretty good

[ember river]

Not as many stars, since big cities with lots of lights obfuscate a lot of sky light at night

looks great

[jade briar]

This hdr is really good except for the lights

And the big buiklding in the way

[ember river]

There is an AI to generate free HDR maps out of text prompts, iirc you can upload your stuff for it to work with

[jade briar]

oh yeah

I forgot about that

[ember river]

Although the quality isn't always great
https://skybox.blockadelabs.com/

[jade briar]

Yeah

This ain't that good

As the case with all ais

[tawny elk]

You gotta disable global tone mapping man, it’s crushing the blacks

[ember river]

The best one I found so far to generate somewhat decent images is DALLE, from OpenAI, but there is a paywall
https://labs.openai.com/

[tawny elk]

You want me to try using that trusky add on for blender and we can make our own

[jade briar]

I have like 2000 free generations for beta testing this

[ember river]

Yeah, about that, I remember u asked about changing to local again, but I got sidetracked on the threads. Can you send the settings again?

[tawny elk]

Just change it from global to local and you’re good

[jade briar]

fuck

my 2000 credits expired

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[ember river]

?

[tawny elk]

Yep

I have a polyhaven subscription so if y’all want any of those lemme know

[jade briar]

fuck

Just

Click on it

Here

I tried making something in truesky

Not very good

https://vxtwitter.com/HotdogNugget/status/1617604862598090753?s=20

[ember river]

for the many variations of sky color, although I'm not sure how the materials work in skybox, I noticed a hard cut instead of a fade out/in on my replacement texture when I was testing. Maybe we'd need to stick with one fixed skybox for a while

[jade briar]

https://tenor.com/view/ineedit-needit-spongebob-squarepants-need-it-gif-4883495

[jade briar]

We can replace it game-side, if we really need to do that

wait

nvm

Normal hdris won't wrap around whatever the hell the original devs tried using

So @tawny elk. One of the big things about underground 2 was the crowd gathered around the cars when the race starts and ends. Fixed function mode gets rid of that. Anyway to trick the game into putting them back in?

[ember river]

wut, why do they go away?

[jade briar]

Fixed function

[ember river]

Yeah like, it is still possible to make skeletal animations with fixed function 🤔
Is it something remix related?

[jade briar]

I know, I think it was a performance saving measure, since ff gpus weren't that powerful compared to newer hardware.

And the game had like 20 npcs in the scene at a time

[ember river]

Hmm I see. I heard something about mesh skinning characters being fixed by mark on portal too

Was the NPCs disabled or something?

[jade briar]

Yeah that was done for prelude.

[ember river]

So it is included in the set of features we're waiting to become public in the repos?

[jade briar]

Yes. I remember, when I was little, I didn't knew, but the gpu in my computer only had ff support, so I always wondered why I didn't see any npcs in my game while my friend's computer had them.

Now I know

[ember river]

Yeah, although becoming more interesting, games also lose a bit of their magic the more you know about them

[jade briar]

Yeah.

I know too much now

Ignorance is bliss

[ember river]

@jade briar since you were the most hyped with lights, can you review adam's lights on the roadways?
https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NFSU2-RTX-Remix/pull/84
It is the RoadwayLightRework branch
For me it is approved

Oh wait, there is a missing comma in mod.usda that I had to fix

[jade briar]

Approved

[ember river]

wut

[jade briar]

Approved merge