NFSU2 (Need For Speed Underground 2)

[vague sparrow]

that's why im waiting

[cloud crypt]

made the radius smaller

[safe fossil]

What are the settings in this shot?

[safe fossil]

Also, the shity post react (not)native transition discord didn't crash on viewing a forum thread, miracle

[cloud crypt]

increased cone softness and the cone angle about 10, also increased Intensity and Exposure while radius was decreased

i am now sitting 2 hours on these damn highway lights xD

[wispy drum]

something wrongs here right?

installed the bridge installed the remix and the ultrawide patch

got 80-90fps with 40% gpu usage

sorry sorry i didnt downloaded the rar file in the pinned messages

only the 2 zips in github

[cloud crypt]

you should download the pinned file

everything you need is in there

[wispy drum]

yes i didnt see it sorry

i only drop the 2 remix+ bridge files in the game folder

got these issues

i dropped all the files in the rar in the pinned message and replace some in the game folder

do i need to do this too?

when installed, go over to dxvk.conf file and edit these lines and add these values:
d3d9.customDeviceId = 0110
d3d9.customVendorId = 10de
d3d9.shaderModel = 0
and in bridge.conf, shared heap should be enabled*

found it in reddit

[cloud crypt]

delete every file you added and reinstall the from the rar file

[wispy drum]

will delete everything remix bridge etc?

and install them again all?

or just the rar?

[cloud crypt]

delete everything and install just the rar file data

[wispy drum]

thank you. because in the pinned wrote to download the remix and bridge too. i think i only needed the rar from the beginning thank you very much

[cloud crypt]

ah no, yoe need them too, but the order is put bridge in game folder and dxvk in trex folder

[wispy drum]

will try again because in the pinned messages it said to put everything in the game folder

[cloud crypt]

bridge: game folder
dxvk: trex folder
rar files: game folder

[wispy drum]

have these rars

[cloud crypt]

there is missing one

[wispy drum]

what is missing? there arent others to download in the pinned

[cloud crypt]

dxvk-remix is missing

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/suites/13182035566/artifacts/717461259

[wispy drum]

found it

so will put the first 3 rars to game folder then the dxvx remix to the trex folder

[cloud crypt]

install order:

1. remix 0.2.0 in game folder
2. bridge remix in game folder
3. dxvk remix in trex folder
4. RTX_Remix U2 in game folder

[wispy drum]

excellent thank you will report back in some minutes

yes i did it because if its .dll the game wont open at all

[dense raptor]

Remember rename d3d9.dll to d3d9.asi (if you use WidescreenFixesPack)

[cloud crypt]

or rename dinput8 to dsound

does the same thing

[wispy drum]

thank you didnt knew that

[cloud crypt]

hopefully the parking lots will get updated soon xD

[dense raptor]

ahah

[cloud crypt]

or i will do it myself xD

[wispy drum]

with raining

for no reflection?

[cloud crypt]

did you install the underground 2 rtx remix files from uncle burrito?

[wispy drum]

from the pinned file here yes

and replace everything in the game folder

dxvk to trex

[cloud crypt]

well doesnt seem like that

[wispy drum]

yes something is wrong for sure

will delete the game and install everything from the beginning again

[wispy drum]

better?

[jade briar]

You don't because the file I provided has everything set up already.

[wispy drum]

i think i done it

according to screens above

[jade briar]

Yeah looks about right.

[wispy drum]

the car only doesnt has reflections the road is amazing and the lighting

its too heavy got 45-70 fps

with 4070ti

and dlss auto

[jade briar]

There's a problem with cars right now regarding how the game bakes the the textures after you customize the cars.

This resets the car paint material I have made.

[wispy drum]

thank you. so its ok to look like that in the pictures

yes in the native the cars have reflections

in the remix there aarent any

[jade briar]

Native doesn't effect anything that remix shows.

[wispy drum]

yes i know i mean in the remix the cars doesnt have reflections but in the native game there are some reflects not accurate of course but there are some

the road and the lighting is amazing

is it possible to implement something like DLSS 3 FG in the game?

[surreal ruin]

Keep in mind that this mod has been worked on for like a week now

It's far from ready

[wispy drum]

yes its amazing for such small time congrats to all that help in this

[jade briar]

Devs said that they had to remove dlss3 due to some bug. They'll add it back in later.

[wispy drum]

excellent hope they will add it soon it will make the game very playable in 4000 series. is anything i can change except dlss to performance to get more performance in the game?

i mean from the developer settings

[vague sparrow]

ultra realistic NFS UG2

[wispy drum]

in some occasions its real life the atmosphere except the cars its amazing what a good developer with the remix tool can do in 20 years old game

if i alt+tab the game the game is stuck is it something that suppose to happen?

only with the remix without i can alt tab without issues

[cobalt peak]

What resolution

[jade briar]

Game does get paused, but it should start playing as soon as you click back in the game.

[wispy drum]

i use the widescreen mode in the menu the max resolution is 1600x1200 cant change to 3440x1440

for me the game is stuck after i alt tab it doesnt start again

need to force close then open it again

and in the menu the cars are a bit too dark

[dense raptor]

My OBS can't hook the game, Unable to capture the picture. What's going on?

[jade briar]

Yes, New lights need to be added in the title scene.

[cloud crypt]

culling is nasty bitch

[jade briar]

use screen capture.

[jade briar]

yeah

[vague sparrow]

you need to change the car to 280SX

[cloud crypt]

wait when i am done

[dense raptor]

I'd like to record a video

[wispy drum]

can i use more than that resolution?

[jade briar]

USE SCREEN CAPTURE

[jade briar]

Go to game folder>scripts>widescreen.ini

[cloud crypt]

the res is apllied through the widescreen fix

[jade briar]

The resolution slider in game wouldn't work.

[wispy drum]

excellent you are amazing let me try it to 3440x1440 and see what fps i will get

[jade briar]

Probably not enough.

[wispy drum]

why they are black in me?

what to change to apply 3440x1440?

[dense raptor]

I think it should not be very good, I use less than 1080p. open DLAA about 50fps?

[cloud crypt]

because burrito doesnt add lights

[jade briar]

The part I sircled in my screenshot.

[wispy drum]

oh so have a different build?

[jade briar]

of what?

[wispy drum]

excellent

[cloud crypt]

no

[wispy drum]

i meant about the lights in the hellraven photo above

in the menu

[jade briar]

Hellraven is working on adding new lights. I'm working on textures.

[cloud crypt]

i am currently working on burritos mod where i add lights in omniverse

[vague sparrow]

what gpu you have, looks very nice

[wispy drum]

i understand thank you again guys. i will donate if you accept something for your work

[dense raptor]

4070TI

[cloud crypt]

same as me xD

[dense raptor]

🤩

[jade briar]

No thx.

[cobalt peak]

I am using a 3070 Ti, does it still hold up? I already tried the mod, but considering some people might mod more stuff (maybe reduce culling at some point, or new textures), I wonder if it will hold up.

[jade briar]

Only time can tell.

[vague sparrow]

ReSTIR can hold a million lights so it should be fine

[wispy drum]

magic

[vague sparrow]

unless

we replace assets

which we already can but if we replace entire buildings with qixel megascans type of quality, then it will be a problem

[cobalt peak]

Ah alr thx

[cloud crypt]

lighten up these streetsigns

[wispy drum]

thanks again guys you gave a big smile to someone. have 100% the game twice back when the game was released before 19 years and will 100% it again when the build is final.

[vague sparrow]

thanks to everyone here who contributed ❤️

its a small step

[cloud crypt]

now you see better

[vague sparrow]

expect more when we get the proper tools to work with

[cloud crypt]

i want to thank @tawny elk for searching the culling system to shut it down

[vague sparrow]

it is still culling unfortunately

[tawny elk]

[jade briar]

wait did you do something?

[cloud crypt]

wasnt he the one who is currently searching the game exe for culling system?

[jade briar]

Yeah but he hasn't gotten anything yet

[cloud crypt]

yeah i know but he is doing good work, i couldnt do that

[tawny elk]

It’s on the docket for this morning

[jade briar]

Do something.

[tawny elk]

It begins

[cloud crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-face-im-surprised-pikachu-gif-26500978

[wispy drum]

lights and reflections in the cars and DLSS 3 FG and i think we will be gold. The reflections in the road are exceptional

look the casino lights how they are reflected in the road. amazing

[cloud crypt]

well, somehow lights in ov doesnt reflect like that

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/fun-fun-begins-star-wars-skywalker-gif-18356472

i still haven't found a single trace of culling in the game strings, what is it referred to?

[jade briar]

I wish I knew how this sort of thing worked.

[tawny elk]

It's not a defined string so it's going to be inside a function somehwere

[vague sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/994266287943467008.webp?size=96

[surreal ruin]

Ah, a fellow P5 wallpaper enjoyer I see

[jade briar]

anime=cringe

[tawny elk]

[surreal ruin]

I sincerely apologize for enjoying something you do not X)

[vague sparrow]

muh RTX remix wallpaper enjoyer

🥵

[cloud crypt]

somewhat like that N_{{p}}=V_{{1}}\times V_{{2}}

[jade briar]

I legit have no idea wtf happened here

[cobalt peak]

What game is dat

[cloud crypt]

morrowwind

[vague sparrow]

morrowind

[cobalt peak]

Nice

[tawny elk]

These are likely some sort of culling/bypass. See how they jump past so many instructions?

[cloud crypt]

dang

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-agree-gif-26198696

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-the-office-michael-scott-steve-carell-explain-this-to-me-like-im-five-gif-4527435

actually wait...i get a sense of what's going on but not really sure what is it that's causing said spikes

[dreamy ether]

Now time to test the theory lol

[tawny elk]

This is basically what the process is like

[valid geyser]

what do y'all think, should nfs rtx mods have their own server?

[vague sparrow]

i like the help from Nvidia Devs so why make new server

sure if this thread is restricting then we can make a modding server

[valid geyser]

idk everything is being thrown here at once
progress, guides, showcases, people asking for help, chatter
it just gets convoluted that's all

[surreal ruin]

Bit too early for anything like that eh

[valid geyser]

just asking c:

since uncle burrito is working on ug2, i wanna start working on mw in the summer

[vague sparrow]

i think its too early to say yeah

[valid geyser]

unless someone else does first

[cloud crypt]

well we are in early developement of the mod. This thread is just fine.

[vague sparrow]

we need proper tools to do anything at all

[cloud crypt]

MW is already in work

[dreamy ether]

Indeed

[cloud crypt]

https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1106549860393553961

why

we already asked nlgzrf and aero

they cant help us :/

[vague sparrow]

nah

[tawny elk]

Just like the sims fr fr

[vague sparrow]

not sims

nooooooo

[dreamy ether]

That has to be one of the most uninterested responses ever lol

[tawny elk]

Sims modding community replied the same way

Which means you get to be the one to figure it out

[ember cobalt]

yap

[vague sparrow]

we can't let culling get in our way

is it something related to game exe, if we can find the function related to culling and remove all its traces and patch the exe

hmm

[dreamy ether]

I mean, with great pain comes great rewards

That is game development in a nutshell lol

[cloud crypt]

yeah

[tawny elk]

It could be as simple as I'm hoping and we can just tell it to bypass it.

[vague sparrow]

casually places 🍆 in hydraulic press

[surreal ruin]

In my 10 + years of games development, 90 % of it has been troubleshooting lol

[vague sparrow]

sure, do your thang 21

we will give you e support from here

[dreamy ether]

Yeah I’m not sure that is what I meant by great pain lol

[cloud crypt]

well, doesnt look bad so far

[dreamy ether]

But at least you won’t have to worry about having children ever again

[dreamy ether]

Looks nice!

Though why are the taillights wrapping around the back of the car lol

[tawny elk]

Alright I feel we're getting closer

[cloud crypt]

motion blur, i drove in that pic

[surreal ruin]

That certainly did some culling alright hah

[jade briar]

STILL TOO DARK3.

[dreamy ether]

Extreme culling

[vague sparrow]

removes entire earth

[jade briar]

I'm so excited right now.

[cloud crypt]

same

[dreamy ether]

That is a very good optimization strategy

But yeah

This is exciting

[vague sparrow]

ok

[jade briar]

ok.

[vague sparrow]

i wonder if this is relevant to what we are doing here

[tawny elk]

They are

RenderWorld seems to be the sky? But it has calls to if the game is using a lowdrawdistance

[cloud crypt]

low draw distance is fixed by hd relections, but it messes up remix

[dreamy ether]

Cool

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-understand-nothing-gif-18894747

[dreamy ether]

I assume the push variable controls the draw distance expansion?

[vague sparrow]

we're trying to avoid the red line?

[dreamy ether]

That’s an if I believe

[tawny elk]

Alright so that 8000 addition is the draw radius forward?

[cloud crypt]

lightsource not visible but moving one inch and the light gets culled

[vague sparrow]

we need this part right?

[jade briar]

Adam stop showing me meaningless words

[tawny elk]

Other way

[dreamy ether]

I assume that just forces the draw distance to expand when it’s below a certain value

[vague sparrow]

rendering everything will make the game very slow

[tawny elk]

[dreamy ether]

Though it’s hard to say lol

[cloud crypt]

you think? modern pcs should do it with ease

[dreamy ether]

I haven’t done CPU stuff before

[vague sparrow]

yeah looks like we need to Push 9000 🥶

[tawny elk]

Game crashed when setting the distance to 10

[dreamy ether]

That’s what they all say

Lol

[surreal ruin]

Do keep in mind that old game engines have their own limitations

There's only so much hardware you can throw at an issue

[dreamy ether]

Now set it to 9.5

Lol

[vague sparrow]

set it to golden ratio

1.61

[dreamy ether]

That is a horrible distance lol

[cloud crypt]

maybe 7.5 will do

[tawny elk]

This line right here officer

[dreamy ether]

Unless you want to play NFS Blind edition - NOW WITH READING GLASSES

[dreamy ether]

Nice

What was its default value?

[vague sparrow]

1000 ig

i think if we decrease culling rather than eliminating it completely we could still achieve something

[dreamy ether]

Indeed

[vague sparrow]

like how far should backface culled material disappear matters

[tawny elk]

Oh that's not the culling line for the area behind the car

[cloud crypt]

yes, mabe 10 meters later would do

[dreamy ether]

Also is this for Draw distance?

[tawny elk]

It's the culling for the camera looking forward

[dreamy ether]

Hm

[tawny elk]

Still haven't found the one for the one behind the car

[jade briar]

I was about to say that. Many other mods do address this specific line.

[dreamy ether]

Just search for all words that say push

Lol

And trial and error

[tawny elk]

There's probably a few thousand push instructions

[vague sparrow]

we dont talk about what renders behind the camera 🤐

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/old-push-kid-gif-26307502

[dreamy ether]

Sucks that omniverse can’t do freecam while your playing

[tawny elk]

It can

[jade briar]

Because nothing renders behind the camera

[dreamy ether]

That way you can see the culling

[jade briar]

It can

[tawny elk]

You can freecam with the latest build

[vague sparrow]

but we want that to render

[dreamy ether]

In action

[jade briar]

Yes

You can

[dreamy ether]

Nice

[jade briar]

The free cam in remix

Isn't attached to the game camera

So it can see things that the game is trying to hide

[dreamy ether]

Noice

My best guess would be is to boot that up, get a good view and then start messing around with culling values

[tawny elk]

I still need to find out where the culling is occurring

[vague sparrow]

there's literally no mentioning of culling in the RE log dump
we need to find synonyms of word culling

[dreamy ether]

As unless we have a firm idea of where the variable for it is at

[vague sparrow]

lol

[tawny elk]

There's very little strings in the exe

[dreamy ether]

Just use Ctrl + F

[jade briar]

Use cheat engine

[dreamy ether]

Then search culling

[vague sparrow]

i did

zero results

[jade briar]

Also try alt+f4

[dreamy ether]

Rip

[dreamy ether]

💀

[jade briar]

Ah yes. The cyberpunk burrito

My cousin

[vague sparrow]

Now try Win + Ctrl + Shift + B

[cloud crypt]

thats where its culling

[dreamy ether]

Cool

Glad to see the abyss is expanding

[vague sparrow]

lights cull as soon as they are out of perspective

[cloud crypt]

yeah, thats horrible...

[vague sparrow]

so game world objects and lights dont share the same culled values

[dreamy ether]

Makes sense

As in the original you would see lights a lot less than now

Meaning that they can be culled quicker than the terrain

[tawny elk]

So the World LOD level gets called in the UpdateAndRenderStuff function that the RE page had called out.

[dreamy ether]

Huh

That probably gives the LOD a value for the render distance that way the correct LOD’s can be loaded

[trail quail]

i dont know if this will help but in the z menu there is an option to lock your streaming position and with this option on, when turning the car around yeilds this result: (car dissappears and lights dont work and world doesnt load correctly).

[dreamy ether]

Random guess, though I can’t think of anything else right now

[vague sparrow]

5D2850 UpdateAndRenderStuff ?

[tawny elk]

[vague sparrow]

there's also this 44EFE0 UpdateCamera

[jade briar]

It's because a light bulb is a tiny object, but a road is a long plane so it doesn't cull until all of it is behind the camera

[vague sparrow]

hmm

sounds similar to when someone complimented about my-

[jade briar]

No

[tawny elk]

I wanna say that's just tying the camera position to the car

[cloud crypt]

rebalanced the lights of the city entrance when you come from the airport

[jade briar]

Man loves playing in the dark

[tawny elk]

Need to set the lights to 2100k

Get that HPS look

[jade briar]

Okay, so here's my idea. Camera fov 360° and then windows magnifier.

[cloud crypt]

ive made the sky darker

[tawny elk]

Now this is science

[jade briar]

It would work

[cloud crypt]

and its only that dark because headlights wont work the way i want them to work

[tawny elk]

Other idea

What if I found the rear facing camera

and checked to see what it's doing

[dreamy ether]

Backup camera functionality??

Lol

[tawny elk]

Oh right there was a rearview mirror right?

tf am I doing going down this path

[jade briar]

Better yet, look for the reflection probe capture system. See what's the deal with it. Maybe it can help.

[tawny elk]

I already found that bit. It's part of the forward draw

[dreamy ether]

Wouldn’t reflections be worse than the actual culling?

[jade briar]

h,,

[dreamy ether]

Wait nvm, this is RTX not screen-space reflections

[dreamy ether]

E

[jade briar]

idk how that got typed in

[dreamy ether]

Lol

[vague sparrow]

fov 360 would literally make it unplayable, let alone its possibility of enabling such fov

[tawny elk]

L

[jade briar]

That's why

windows magnifier

[vague sparrow]

its a sphere fov which is not possible

game would crash

[dreamy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-damage-emotional-damage-meme-funny-gif-24332819

[tawny elk]

359 and reproject it to 50.

[dreamy ether]

Perfection

[vague sparrow]

@jade briar @tawny elk @dreamy ether https://strlen.com/gfxengine/fisheyequake/compare.html

what happens at higher fov

Nocando. It's technically impossible to get >=180

[dreamy ether]

So anything above 360 opens a portal to another dimension

Got it

Though 360 could work

If there was a variable to magnify the view

Windows magnifier will be janky as hell lol

[cloud crypt]

the light for the signs ok like that

[dreamy ether]

You may like more light lol

You can’t even see the car paint

The highway is a safety hazard lol

[cloud crypt]

as i said, i throttle down the skies brightness

[dreamy ether]

I see that

Now throttle up the lights a bit

Lol

Way to dark for the environment lol

[cloud crypt]

now normal sky brightness

[dreamy ether]

Unless your lightbulbs are failing

[dreamy ether]

Why not just use a night HDRI?

Why use sunset?

[cloud crypt]

its the standart sky

[dreamy ether]

Cool

[tawny elk]

You can do some fun math to get things looking right at that kind of FOV tho https://www.fovotec.com/

[dreamy ether]

The game does look pretty though at sunset

[tawny elk]

How do you enable the rear view mirror by the way?

[cloud crypt]

i still try to find a good night hdri

[dreamy ether]

Use PolyHaven

[cloud crypt]

widescreen fix or extra options or hd reflections

[dreamy ether]

They have some great HDRI’s

[tawny elk]

Ugh I gotta restart the game?

[dreamy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[cloud crypt]

but not for night time

[tawny elk]

What 5 years of math does to mf

[dreamy ether]

Lol yes

[tawny elk]

I don't see it in the widescreenfix options

[cloud crypt]

you need hd reflections for it

[tawny elk]

Then why is it in the games code

[vague sparrow]

can we add a new camera using game logic?

[cloud crypt]

i mean to force it

[tawny elk]

When does it get normally enabled

[cloud crypt]

in og game only when hood or front bumper mode

[tawny elk]

Anything is possible if you have the time

[tawny elk]

|| How do I change camera in game.. ||

[cloud crypt]

c key

[vague sparrow]

afaik remix doesn't like having multiple cameras

[tawny elk]

No it does not

[dreamy ether]

If that’s the case then it would be 1 camera switching to different set positions

Which would make adding more harder

[tawny elk]

I just wanted to see what happened when it started to draw the rearview

[dreamy ether]

And?

What was ze result

Lol

Only reason I say this is because I don’t have the same so I can’t test lol

I’m just imagining the game and what it would look like

Using my brain, the ultimate gaming PC

[tawny elk]

We get to this

Which has this nice little if statement

if (param_1[3] == 2) { DAT_00883dfc = DAT_00883dfc + -1; }

[dreamy ether]

What’s DAT

[tawny elk]

So that's saying if cameraSate says to draw the rearview mirror, set DAT_00883dfc to DAT_00883dfc - 1

No idea

[dreamy ether]

Ok then

[tawny elk]

Might be the camera direction?

[dreamy ether]

Imma take a shot in the dark and say it’s the render distance?

[vague sparrow]

its doing a 180

[cloud crypt]

would this HDRi work?

[dreamy ether]

Change one of the values lol

[dreamy ether]

Ah yes, the night sky with a supernova

Very normal

[tawny elk]

Gotta go beg Sony to give you the HDRi's from the scapes mode in Grand Turismo

[dreamy ether]

Just rip them-

Totally not illegal

[tawny elk]

Copyrights are cool.

[dreamy ether]

Yes

[tawny elk]

Aw man my game crashed

[vague sparrow]

not when you have to pay twenty thousand dollars for Lawyers fee

[tawny elk]

Legal at work scares me enough to stay within the lines

[dreamy ether]

Interstellar theme intensifies

[vague sparrow]

wait....

this is legit getting refracted

to upside down

https://tenor.com/view/black-hole-gif-black-holes-space-universe-stars-gif-24154051

[dreamy ether]

So?

[dreamy ether]

Wat

[vague sparrow]

the effect is similar with fov

but very unstable with UG2

[dreamy ether]

This has to be the first time I have heard someone reference black holes when modding a game about racing and having it make actual sense

Lol

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-hog-rider-clash-of-clans-memes-clash-royale-gif-24280865

[dreamy ether]

HOOG RIIDER

I had to

[vague sparrow]

wrong gif

we dont talk about that

[dreamy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/really-what-squint-chicken-gif-15168180

Sus

[vague sparrow]

to compensate for my sus behavior, here's kewl football gif

https://tenor.com/view/aguerooo-gif-24409536

[dreamy ether]

Very kewl

[tawny elk]

Ugh every time I touch something it crashes

[ember cobalt]

i hope you don't have a car

[jade briar]

You got it bud.

I'm here

Cheering

As hard as I can

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/walk-into-glass-fail-gif-10742562

[tawny elk]

I think I got closer to where to getting it figured out but I gotta handle real life responsibilities Might get some more digging in later tonight.

[jade briar]

damn bro

ok

[surreal ruin]

You're a champ Adam!

[vague sparrow]

did i hear you say ok?

@trail quail

[jade briar]

ok.

[tawny elk]

If anyone wants to goof with it, it's likely going to be referenced somewhere in function 005caad0

[jade briar]

idk what that means

[vague sparrow]

hexadecimal address probably?

[tawny elk]

I'll reach out to the guy who did the reverse engineering originally and see if he knows

[vague sparrow]

does he have email?

[jade briar]

Idk what to do with it.

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-graphics-brain-gif-17765648

[jade briar]

[dreamy ether]

POV: You have an amazing GPU but a crappy CPU

[vague sparrow]

me in about 3 months

gonna pair it with a pathetic cpu and then cry why remix isn't working

[dreamy ether]

Lol

I have a CPU that has an integrated GPU

[vague sparrow]

i have an APU tbh

[dreamy ether]

Noice

I have 2 GPU’s

[vague sparrow]

its not like it could do wonders but its something

[dreamy ether]

Still

Better than internal graphics

I mean integrated

[vague sparrow]

hmmm

yall should like focus on other need for speed games like muh Underground 1

absolutely pains me to say that no one here cared enough for ug1

that was my favorite game

[dreamy ether]

Me who never played any Underground games:

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-funny-aughhh-emoji-twiggle-gif-25776741

[dreamy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-no-one-cares-gif-18925814

[cloud crypt]

more, we need more lights xD

[surreal ruin]

No AE86 so I have to disqualify it

[dreamy ether]

Increase the range of the lights

For

ILLUMINATION

[cloud crypt]

therefore i need to increase the intensity or the radius... lets see

[vague sparrow]

Seems like I'm the only one left here to prefer it over ug2

[dreamy ether]

Or both

[surreal ruin]

If it had my funny toyota shitbox I'd be all over it

[cloud crypt]

like that?

[dreamy ether]

Beautiful

Though the fact that the steetlamp 400 metered away is casting reflections over here is concerning

You may want to tone the range down a bit-

[cloud crypt]

from radius 5 to 4

[surreal ruin]

Yeeh das nice

Gotta love the stanky opacity rendering on the trees

[dreamy ether]

Nice

[dreamy ether]

Oh yeah lol

Trees.jpeg

[cloud crypt]

thats caused by volumetric lighting

[surreal ruin]

Aaah yeah that makes sense

[cloud crypt]

tuned vol lighting up to 800

[cobalt peak]

What is dat good for

[surreal ruin]

It's interesting that the volumetrics don't take opacity into account

[tawny elk]

Reverse engineer guy said he had no idea.

[dreamy ether]

Nothing changed-

Apart from the jpeg trees

[cloud crypt]

it did smth. Look at the lights. The fog gone

[dreamy ether]

Oh ok

Cool

[surreal ruin]

The volumetric lights are really nice though

[dreamy ether]

It’s now less Smokey

[surreal ruin]

Shame to cut that

[cloud crypt]

yeah

[dreamy ether]

Congrats on stopping the Wildfires

lol

[cloud crypt]

we somehow have to get better trees to get it working

[dreamy ether]

Use low quality tree models

Or just replace the tree images with PBR tree images

[tiny nimbus]

eh the sky looks a bit too bright

[cloud crypt]

yeah well, the trees are not simply trees. They are more like sperate textures

[dreamy ether]

Add in PBR tree pictures

So tree jpegs but with normal maps and stuff

They look surprising believable

[cloud crypt]

but i dont like how rain is displayed

its always only where the car is

[surreal ruin]

Yeah this is common in a lot of games, especially racing

Rain can be super expensive so it's typically only spawned near the camera

And replaced with various cheap distance techniques for anything farther away

[cloud crypt]

makes sense

[jade briar]

Don't touch the radius. The radius should be as large as the light bulb.

[cloud crypt]

for this the radius is equal the bulb

[jade briar]

good

Radius should never be larger than the light wource

Now increase the intensitiy.

[vague sparrow]

wource*

https://tenor.com/view/actually-bored-ackchyually-gif-14423655

[jade briar]

wouirce

[cloud crypt]

but when i do that i get this

[surreal ruin]

When working with oldschool assets like this you'll often have to break "Realistic rules"

Do what looks good, fuck the rules

T's all about art direction baby

[chrome meadow]

That's coding in general, there is a nice story about when before CUDA was released to the public they use it to make a GPU accelerated F@h core

[surreal ruin]

Haha yeah I'm not even a coder though! I typically work as an art generalist or art director

But often find myself having to fill tech art shoes instead X)

[jade briar]

I think it is always good to break rules when it comes to art, but working with hell raven is like directing a 5 years old on how to fix a car, over text messages. No offence tho.

[surreal ruin]

I think you could really need a good learning on how to not be an ass to people

No offence tho

[surreal ruin]

Do your thing raven, if you've any questions or need help we're here to assist!

[chrome meadow]

He is using low power fluorescent bulbs to save the environment

[chrome meadow]

That's bad for rendering

[spark moon]

add lights here too...looking good

[cloud crypt]

ive now added a cone angle so it doesnt interfere with any objects when radius 4.0

[cloud crypt]

ah yes, i have forgot these

car gets lighten up from behind 😅😉

[surreal ruin]

Lookin' nice!

[jade briar]

nice

[dreamy ether]

noice

now make the car shiny

because you can't do all this and not have proper car paint

[cloud crypt]

dude, changing the car material make every car look the same

[dreamy ether]

make it more reflective

just bump up the reflective properties

and add some metallic

[vague sparrow]

guys

go outside at night

observe how the bulbs work irl

replicate it using OV

[dreamy ether]

Me with a desk lamp beside me:

https://tenor.com/view/mario-vs-hiyaa-parallel-universe-super-mario-gif-16136123

[cloud crypt]

like that?

[dreamy ether]

ye, but more shiny

[chrome meadow]

Yea, that happen when creating something in general although with art it doesn't happen because it looks to good so there must be a bug like it happen in that case where they spent hours checking and rechecking perfectly fine code simply because they couldn't believe it could be that fast, was something like 30 minutes of coding and 3 hours to come to the conclusion that there were no problems

[dreamy ether]

This level of shiny:

Mack Anthem truck I was working on texturing from ATS

[jade briar]

r=0.05
m=0.2

Those are the settings I use.

[surreal ruin]

Ppffhah, I relate to this so bad, have had many encounters with this when writing shaders! Sometimes things just end up working out really well

[dreamy ether]

go into the light, like under a streetlamp

[cloud crypt]

i am

[dreamy ether]

:/

[jade briar]

Too metallic. Use the settings I gave.

[dreamy ether]

Make the street lamp brighter

[dreamy ether]

way to metallic

[jade briar]

Real cars aren't that metallic.

[vague sparrow]

ofc someone who see's cultus everyday can say this

😏

[jade briar]

santro

[dreamy ether]

Crank up the refectance

and do some metallic

[vague sparrow]

ass car fr

[jade briar]

u're ass car

[cloud crypt]

dang, i know xD ive just messed with Remix PBR settings

[vague sparrow]

you're*

[jade briar]

do you see the settings I gave you.

[cloud crypt]

roughness and metallic yes

[dreamy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[jade briar]

use those

[spark moon]

we need emmesive lighting per light also

[vague sparrow]

assisting HellRaven challenge (hard)

[jade briar]

frfr

[dreamy ether]

I propose a solution

[vague sparrow]

jk no offence plz

[dreamy ether]

just get him to share the project with you

you fix it

[vague sparrow]

that....costs money

[dreamy ether]

then you send it back

[dreamy ether]

The project file

lol

[vague sparrow]

oh

i thought

you meant living editing

omniverse has that feature

[dreamy ether]

no, just the file

[cloud crypt]

now it looks like this

[dreamy ether]

better, but it's way to rough

[dreamy ether]

turn the roughness down

[dreamy ether]

ah

[cloud crypt]

normal settings, just cranked the metallic one up

[jade briar]

man's been using global settings all along

💀

hell nawwww

[dreamy ether]

Turn down the roughness scale?

[cloud crypt]

just to see how it would look lol

[tawny elk]

I do that for my actual work.

[chrome meadow]

and you check countless of time because it looks too god to be true?

[dreamy ether]

Why can't there be a reflectance option lol

[jade briar]

bro everything about this is fucked up.

[chrome meadow]

Developer life is miserable 😆

[dreamy ether]

Why must there be only 3 texture options

[surreal ruin]

Yeeh desperately going over shader instructions time and time again, sometimes shit looks more expensive than it is

[jade briar]

metallic bias should be 0

[cloud crypt]

yes i know lol... As i said i only turned it up to see how metallic paint would look like

[dreamy ether]

just send a screenshot of all the values

ez fix

[dreamy ether]

noice

[cloud crypt]

these are default

[dreamy ether]

noice

[chrome meadow]

You made me feel better, misery loves company I guess 🙃

[surreal ruin]

Hahahaha you can say that again X)

[tawny elk]

Quick, someone else start hunting for the culling function.

[dreamy ether]

what does the paint look like?

[tawny elk]

I don’t wanna be alone

[surreal ruin]

I am but a humble art director

I shall not be touching no code

[dreamy ether]

yet alone you are

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-so-sad-gif-25352430

F

[tawny elk]

Can I be lighting director ?

[dreamy ether]

Can I be a director director?

[surreal ruin]

Sure why not, here's a flashlight, a reflector screen and a ringlight.

[dreamy ether]

I direct the directors

[surreal ruin]

That's what we call a producer

They fuck everything up

[dreamy ether]

Not good ones

[surreal ruin]

True! Although they've become exceedingly rare 😭

[dreamy ether]

Rip

[jade briar]

I love game developers

[chrome meadow]

I don't know if I have the required level of masochism to embark in such a quest

[dreamy ether]

Indeed

There was a model file l found once called Ass_antenna

[jade briar]

dw about this im putting it here for my convenience

[dreamy ether]

Proceeds to worry

Also what is that face lol

[vague sparrow]

me when rtx remix no woek

[vague sparrow]

all birus

[dreamy ether]

POV: Me after drinking the milk under the sink

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/eat-banana-bat-gif-24680277

[jade briar]

The werewolf from the quarry fianl vs. old prototype

[dreamy ether]

I need this bat-

Lol

[cloud crypt]

We germans call that a Flughund

[dreamy ether]

B a t

batbatbatbatabatbatbat

[dreamy ether]

cool

[cloud crypt]

thats not a bat lol

[dreamy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/my-disappointment-is-immeasurable-and-gif-20080022

[cloud crypt]

its a flying fox

[dreamy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/trickmint-gif-26357016

f o x

foxes are good bois

[cloud crypt]

thats a dying fox xD

[dreamy ether]

no-

he's a happy fox

[vague sparrow]

no-

[dreamy ether]

dying foxes don't roll around

[vague sparrow]

thats a spinning fox

[dreamy ether]

true true

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/barrelroll-barrel-roll-dodge-dodgeroll-gif-6209830

[jade briar]

gonna run out soon

[dreamy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-cute-jump-gif-17125810

[vague sparrow]

what the f are you doin lad

[jade briar]

loading animations for the monster

[dreamy ether]

have fun

[spark moon]

what happened to gollum

[dreamy ether]

he looked up rough under gifs

[jade briar]

He suffered from ligma

[cloud crypt]

this thread is going wild xD

[dreamy ether]

A mistake that I made once-

[dreamy ether]

I was looking for sandpaper

[dreamy ether]

yes

[vague sparrow]

wait till i bring ok.

[vague sparrow]

madlad!

64gigs

[cloud crypt]

things going to look more and more awesome

[dreamy ether]

bruh you have 63GB of ram?

I only have 16

[jade briar]

64, technically

[dreamy ether]

:/

I need ram

give

me

your

ram

[jade briar]

no

[cloud crypt]

i only have 32, thats half yours lol

[dreamy ether]

Y E S

[dreamy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/give-me-give-it-to-me-now-gif-6486247

[jade briar]

I have a very overkill computer. But I can justify it.

[spark moon]

Richie Rich

[jade briar]

I render as a job.

[dreamy ether]

Blender

[jade briar]

yes

.

[dreamy ether]

close enough

[cloud crypt]

ok. makes sense

[vague sparrow]

sixty five thousand five hundred and thirty six mega bytes of random access memory, technically

[jade briar]

ok.

[spark moon]

for renders 64 is less now a days

[vague sparrow]

the place where he lives can offer him only that so....

[jade briar]

for renders, using a cpu is stupid nowadays.

[jade briar]

nuh uh

[dreamy ether]

three hundred and ninety-five thousand two hundred and thirty nine megabyte of random access memory

[vague sparrow]

yeh huh

[jade briar]

Almost there

Me when the game has thousands of highly detailed and long mocap animations.

[dreamy ether]

bruh since when did loading animations need that much memeory?

They are just animations

[vague sparrow]

memeory

ok.

[dreamy ether]

yes

it's memeory now

[jade briar]

Umodel loads every anim. Also they're highly detailed and long.

[dreamy ether]

So is other game animations

But it doesn't take 64 GB of ram to do so

[vague sparrow]

render animations are different you know

[jade briar]

You haven't seen this game. It's basically a movie game with very little gameplay, but hours of mocap animation. For many characters.

[dreamy ether]

Other games have a crap ton of mocap

also this is one character-

[cloud crypt]

fivehundred and forty nine billion seven hundred fiftyfive million eight hundred thirteen and eight hundred eightyeight bits

[jade briar]

https://youtu.be/aoBcpV75TNw?t=1740

timestamped

[dreamy ether]

though I guess if your loading every single animation at once-

[vague sparrow]

fuck you

personally

[dreamy ether]

and extracting every animation at once

then it would be tough to do

[vague sparrow]

bruh when they laugh or show their teeth it makes me cringe

[cloud crypt]

equals fivehundred and forty nine billion seven hundred fiftyfive million eight hundred thirteen and eight hundred eightyeight in 0 and 1 as code

[vague sparrow]

looks uncanny

[jade briar]

u show ur teeth

[dreamy ether]

thirty quintillion eighty-three quadrillion six hundred twenty-nine trillion one hundred twenty-seven billion six hundred thirty-two million nine hundred thirty-seven thousand two hundred three bits

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/baner9588-baboon-teeth-office-gif-12021654

[jade briar]

https://tenor.com/view/higorgies-monkey-dress-monkey-gif-25589886

[dreamy ether]

beat that baby man

[cloud crypt]

what that supposed to be

[dreamy ether]

N u m b e r z

[cloud crypt]

i see

[dreamy ether]

or the amount of times I've been with your mom-

I am sorry in advance for making that joke

It had to be done

[vague sparrow]

ah i see

a fellow your mom joke cracker

[dreamy ether]

when the time calls for it,

yes.

[jade briar]

when ur mom calls for it

[dreamy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/pootis-engage-heavy-tf2-gif-26355820

[dreamy ether]

wat

[jade briar]

no time 2 explain

ur mam is calling

[dreamy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/really-what-squint-chicken-gif-15168180

[jade briar]

oh god

[dreamy ether]

OH

[vague sparrow]

time for me to go abroad and use one of em 192gb ram PCs

[dreamy ether]

thirteen thousand two hundred thirty-nine animations?

jeez

what are they even animating

the guy having a seziure?

[jade briar]

Now I know how they were able to afford so many anims

[dreamy ether]

Him scratching is nose 30 different ways?

[vague sparrow]

count for per bone skeleton keyframed movements for entire animation

[jade briar]

barely any cleanup

[vague sparrow]

that's fucking it? you loaded 62 gb for that??

[dreamy ether]

so the amount of keyframes in the animation?

[jade briar]

every single animations is this long.

[vague sparrow]

yes

[dreamy ether]

did you even rig it?

Does the rig even work

[jade briar]

No this thing is from a game

[jade briar]

dunnoi

[vague sparrow]

he did cook the rig

rigt?

[dreamy ether]

That may explain the jank

Lol

You actually have to test the rig and fix it before animations lol

[jade briar]

I think the software loaded every single animation

[dreamy ether]

OH

[jade briar]

even the ones not intended for this model

[dreamy ether]

Oh no-

What-

[dreamy ether]

that scares me

imagine in a dark hallway

then you see this thing run at you out of the dark with a gun

[vague sparrow]

why is bro aiming with an imaginary weapon

[dreamy ether]

he is using the force

[jade briar]

ok but how about this.

A dark back alley stairway

one of those metal ones

[dreamy ether]

No

just no

https://tenor.com/view/faith-cross-sign-game-horror-unholy-gif-26976630

BE GONE DEMON

[jade briar]

I don't remember him ever walking so politely in game

[dreamy ether]

Yep

it scares me

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/repent-ricky-berwick-be-remorseful-say-sorry-apologize-gif-24979860

[dreamy ether]

It's like Batman smiling

and being nice to you when your being interrogated

It's not right and it scares me

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-what-isthatablinker-gif-26167258

[jade briar]

he tries to communicate.

[dreamy ether]

no-

[vague sparrow]

bro is lacking Masseter muscles

[jade briar]

idk what that is but I'll pretend to understand

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/henry-cavill-pc-build-maintenance-frustrated-gif-17910613

[jade briar]

what

[quiet ravine]

pinned version from the 25th of may has the fixed lights too?

[jade briar]

there is no fix for lights YET

[vague sparrow]

not yet

[quiet ravine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046074250362109993/1112037131477581844/Screenshot_2023-05-27_170820.png?width=1207&height=623

i mean this

[jade briar]

what is this

[vague sparrow]

its Work in Progress

[vague sparrow]

auto detected by remix?

or HellRaven's testings

he was adjusting lights a few moments ago

[quiet ravine]

hellraven's yes

[jade briar]

Really specifies what he's using with a yes

[vague sparrow]

HellRaven's yes™️

[quiet ravine]

he didn't specify, just shared the screenshot on tufu discord and said that the latest uploaded video by you is already outdated

[tawny elk]

By the way, the reverse engineer guy said you guys were doing amazing work

[jade briar]

who

[vague sparrow]

who

[quiet ravine]

The Who

[cloud crypt]

these are hard to do lol

[jade briar]

nuh uh

[spark moon]

why bridge force windowed mode has no borders ? any1 know solution

[valid geyser]

those working on the mod
are you guys keeping the car shadow/neon texture?

[tawny elk]

You might wanna use a disk light source for that one

[cloud crypt]

well, i already figured out to give a neon its specific glow, but you need to do that method for every neon color. So for the moment we stay with the textures, yes

[cloud crypt]

working, but with sphere, i will try disk now

This should do

Should i decrease brightness a bit?

[safe fossil]

No, darken the sky instead

Also, are you adding a single light at the center of the pole?

[cloud crypt]

that way the shadow would nod ne that acurate

[safe fossil]

Can this thing like attach lights to assets so you can just automatically mass replace all the light poles?

[cloud crypt]

yep, i edit one mesh and all the others which belongs to this mesh (are the same) will get the same result

[safe fossil]

Im saying this because the shadows look like it's just a single bulb at the center of the pole

[safe fossil]

Nice

[cloud crypt]

yeah, the problem is, that the lights at the pole arent seperated. Thay are one mesh

[safe fossil]

You mean the model light fixtures?

Yeah

Idk how ov works, can you not just place a light at each fixture and rotate it to align it with where the fixture looks at?

[cloud crypt]

well no, i only can copy the instance, but the light itself will only be one

the tipp with the disc light by adam was helpfull here, a sphere light would have ruined the scene with the shadow

[chrome meadow]

Looks ok, they should be really high power lamps

[safe fossil]

Sky's filling the whole image flat though, at least i assume it's the sky texture

[cloud crypt]

so like this

[jade briar]

only the neon

[safe fossil]

Yeah they should be bright af at night, the problem is the sky really isn't a night one more like dusk/early morning, so the whole scene gets flooded by light from everywhere

[elfin beacon]

Yeah, that's what i was gonna say.

[safe fossil]

Or does remix have like some constant ambient fill in the settings? Like does the scene go pure black without the sky and lights?

[jade briar]

There's only one sky setting in remix. Making the value lower causes the dusk one to look right, but night sky gets too dark and the other way around.

[cloud crypt]

yeah ok. i currently try to find good hdris

[safe fossil]

Was there any daytime stuff in underground 2? I recall the whole game being entirely at night

[cloud crypt]

well they had a dawn sky. The one which was a bit red

this one

[safe fossil]

Then i guess this one works sorta for dusk

Although it's really washed out so the colours don't work

Everything just gray

[chrome meadow]

Looks good for me, realistic for a parking lot and the original game also is really bright in many areas

[elfin beacon]

Don't you think the game looks more glossy in night time?

[cloud crypt]

i prefer night time instead of dawn/dusk

[elfin beacon]

Me too.

and the crackles of other cars in night also gives goosebumps.

[vague sparrow]

wen ug1 remix

https://tenor.com/view/rain-sad-depression-gif-24658304

[elfin beacon]

https://gfycat.com/clumsyultimatealbacoretuna

[jade briar]

Not from me thats for sure

[tacit tusk]

did i do something wrong, no setting alters anything and it looks like this the whole time?

[vague sparrow]

Miners from Africa when crypto crash

iykyk

[jade briar]

Did you download the files i n the pinned message?

[vague sparrow]

Wait....

[elfin beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-suspicious-raised-eyebrow-gif-23352998

[tacit tusk]

wow sorry im an idiot

i just noticed the big fucking button

[vague sparrow]

Mutahar here?

[tacit tusk]

i downloaded everything else lmao

[vague sparrow]

Hello muta

[tacit tusk]

hey hey!

[jade briar]

yeah you have to download and install the files in order

[vague sparrow]

Check pins bro, download everything

[tacit tusk]

much better than before!

road's missing though lol

[jade briar]

go to settings and make sure they're like this

[vague sparrow]

Yeah

[tacit tusk]

wow

this is insane

[vague sparrow]

Turn everything in the video settings to absolute low

[tacit tusk]

immeadiatly it all materialized and everything just looks solid

[vague sparrow]

Send screenshots babe

[vague sparrow]

Hot

🥵

[elfin beacon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/xtf2zd/will_nvidia_remix_work_with_other_rtx_gpus/

[jade briar]

Looks about right.