NFSU2 (Need For Speed Underground 2)

[dreamy ether]

Install NVTT

Nvidia Texture Tool

it helps out soo much

[jade briar]

Installed that a long time ago

[dreamy ether]

noice

[jade briar]

No I tried importing it into blender

Froze blender

[dreamy ether]

What addon are you using to import it then?

You should use the official USD Importer/exporter

[jade briar]

Just the default usd import plugin

[jade briar]

In blender

[dreamy ether]

use this one

[jade briar]

Hmm

[dreamy ether]

@jade briar

You install the Blender branch from Omniverse

and it should install the addon onto your main Blender Software

it helps a ton

Also comes with other optimization options

and the option to create PBR Textures for Omniverse

[jade briar]

Hmm

[dreamy ether]

it's worth it

trust me

It's helped me out so much

@jade briar

It's a must have

[jade briar]

Wait, so will it be able to completely replace create in terms of making a mod.usda? Because omniverse FUCKING sucks.

[dreamy ether]

I mean, I guess? It can export and import USD's along with doing the texturing

among other things

[jade briar]

I'll have to look into it.

[dreamy ether]

sounds good

I haven't messed around with it a ton

since I haven't been doing alot of Omniverse stuff

but it does work

[jade briar]

Interesting.

[dreamy ether]

indeed

anyway

to bed with you

lol

Do it now or else I will break into your house with a Shotgun and stare at you menacingly

https://tenor.com/view/bread-boys-breadboys-shotgun-jerusalem-gif-18656496

[jade briar]

[dreamy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/really-what-squint-chicken-gif-15168180

Sleep

Dew it

Dew it now

[trail quail]

love some of the quirks you run into when playing around haha

[tawny elk]

inb4 Underground 2 makes rtxremix catch all the media attention.

Need For Speed General

I'll write up a nice guide on getting this running since this is getting really popular.

[old matrix]

this image is from need for speed 2015, if I remember this game does not contain ray tracing and I think it is not capable of running RTX remix, or this is an extremely old game with an incredible remastering system.
Or I could be wrong and this game would be something more recent like a payback or heat for example.

[cloud crypt]

yikes

[dreamy ether]

Who knew that the NFS community could be the main marketing strategy for Remix lol

[dreamy ether]

at this point the devs will start just posting NFS Remix screenshots solely as their marketing strategy

and the funny thing is

is that it would 100% work

Lol

[cloud crypt]

this happens when i drive...

[dreamy ether]

Road_Texture.jpg

in a crisp 360p

[cloud crypt]

whats with that?

[dreamy ether]

0 idea

Remix's attempt at motion Blur?

or some form of optimization

I'm still waiting to use Remix, so I'm just guessing

[dreamy ether]

re-apply the road texture?

[cloud crypt]

I will delete my rtx conf and make a new clean one. Probably the best option i have.

Also if i add lights in OV the are not shown in the game

[chrome meadow]

Awesome! Have you tried to select the neon textures instead of the decal on the road?

[chrome meadow]

Not surprised, they didn't released anything that good after

[vague sparrow]

This project is showing more progress than any other remix related project, dedication 💜

[chrome meadow]

It is also a perfect game for ray tracing, great settings with night, shiny cars, and tons of lights

[small acorn]

didn't figured out which is which. there are couple of "emitters" on car and couple shadowmaps that are projected onto road

[vague sparrow]

Wild

[jade briar]

truly

Back to work. Found out a more efficient way to make road lines. Uses wayyy less nodes than before.

Even less nodes.

[spark moon]

congrats

[jade briar]

huh

[spark moon]

appreciating u for getting famous

[jade briar]

Oh yeah.

Thx.

I'll say thank you to all of you in this thread. Couldn't have done it without any of you.

[spark moon]

same...i havent done much but @small acorn needs to be credited who ran the game

[small acorn]

oh, stop it, you :3

[jade briar]

fr.

I didn't even bother to try getting the game to work myself before you figured it out. I was just waiting for you guys to get something started before getting into it myself.

Anyways, It is almost done. One of the more complicated setups I've made in a while. Just need to add the yellow line on the side. This better look good in game.

uh oh. forgot to mute.

[jade briar]

Final setup

@dreamy ether

Now, I just gotta do the same with every other type of road texture.

[vague sparrow]

Rip dude

What about trying out drift maps

Less painful to work with

[cloud crypt]

Drift roads doesnt need to be wet, url roads neither

[jade briar]

But what I wanna make it wet

[vague sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/928379715415322664/999386398870212608/watch_these_presidential_reps.gif

[jade briar]

https://tenor.com/view/komaru-mugimeshi323-speechless-cat-cute-gif-23363644

[spark moon]

some textures also works as light source adding as sky texture like in the pic BAYVIEW

[valid geyser]

or you can use the "add light to textures" menu

[jade briar]

what

[spark moon]

nope dosent work for bayview

[open atlas]

i think the map culling works in the tracks file

[spark moon]

now bayview is not lighten

[jade briar]

ohh.

[jade briar]

[spark moon]

I can see water drops

[jade briar]

me too

[spark moon]

paint job looks sexy now

[jade briar]

Need for metal

[open atlas]

well i found a mod that messed with the culling settings

now nothing form that map block is being rendered

https://nfsmods.xyz/mod/79

if anyones curious

[jade briar]

yooooooooo

what

[jade briar]

so does this mod change the original map in any way?

[vague sparrow]

can we add animated water splash normals? from remix creator toolkit

[vague sparrow]

the ps2 demo map it seems like

[jade briar]

So what is this doing, exactly?

I literally don't see a difference between the two.

[vague sparrow]

what if just remove the culled material

and then replace every asset

so it does not cull

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-thinking-gif-8387963

[jade briar]

I love it when someone says they got a solution to culling, then stop existing.

[open atlas]

It restores some cut roads from the beta map

[spark moon]

not using OV or any toolkit

[open atlas]

Without trying to sound like a dick replying to a dickish comment… I’m literally playing the game right now

And even if I wasn’t, my entire life does not revolve around this app

[jade briar]

damn bro

[jade briar]

I still have no idea how this has to do anything with culling.

[vague sparrow]

comes in chat
proposes solution to culling in a logical way
gets asked about how to do it properly
refuses to elaborate further
leaves

https://tenor.com/view/giga-chad-chad-meme-dub-gif-25628266

[steep hornet]

Is Underground 1 work just with the latest builds or I need to do some additional setup?

[open atlas]

Your guess is as good as mine, but that mod makes the game load map blocks in a different way

[vague sparrow]

it is working, you need the very latest build and edit the dxvk.conf and rtx.conf

[spark moon]

what i understand is this light culling are shadows its happening due to disbaling directional light i enabled it and wuaala

[jade briar]

check pinned message.

[jade briar]

Elaborate

[steep hornet]

What exactly I need to edit in configs?

[vague sparrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/RTXRemix/comments/13l5ca7/comment/jknwgj3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

its the same guide as this

for underground 1

[open atlas]

for a more direct example of how its affecting the map block loading

[spark moon]

these are just light shadows on top of their is world light which is direct light disabling that may feel like that is culling

[jade briar]

interesting

[open atlas]

that map mod certainly changed something

i wouldnt think it would be culling a block directly in the visual range

not one that the camera should reasonably see

even more curious

it changes depending on the camera you use

it renders fine at that distance in every camera that isnt far

[vague sparrow]

from what i can understand, it means that if we apply this mod, all the culling presets will get removed

[spark moon]

not 100% sure to me this what seems like

[steep hornet]

Ty, tried to find it myself but could not

[jade briar]

I genuinely don't see how it's effecting the game let alone affecting remix.

Tho I could go try it out myself. Care to share what setting you changed?

[vague sparrow]

@small acorn you can ask this guy too, he got it working (P.S sorry for the ping)

[open atlas]

i installed the mod i linked above

[open atlas]

^

[vague sparrow]

or Baaz

[open atlas]

if you want the point of refeence im using, its right next to the stadium by the first car speciality shop

[jade briar]

okay I guess it's time to make a copy of the game folder so that I don't fuck it up with mods again.

[jade briar]

ahhhhh. I see now. Tho will it effect things culled outside of the camera view? Only one way to find out.

[open atlas]

i can give you my game folder if you want

theres a few mods but nothing major other than the map mod for freeroam

nothing that would affect map rendering

[jade briar]

I think I can try it out myself.

[jade briar]

Alright, so the game crashes while loading into map.

Yeah, straight up crash.

oh wait. I'm installing it wrong mb

[open atlas]

Yeah you have to install the end file with Binary and then move the TRACKS folder over

Culling is also most aggressive in the far camera

[jade briar]

I may be stupid.

[vague sparrow]

may are

[jade briar]

The problem is that this mod may fix culling for distant objects, but will it fix occlusion culling?

Probably not.

I'm taking a shit rn

[vague sparrow]

ok.

[jade briar]

ok.

[jade briar]

As expected, it didn't actually fix any occlusion culling.

[spark moon]

try this config guys

[steep hornet]

guide worked, but not the widescreenfix part. Thx anyway

[spark moon]

rename ur d3d9.dll to .asi

[steep hornet]

I did that, but game doesnt launch

[spark moon]

did u added d3d8

[steep hornet]

you mean dinput8?

i need rename it to d3d8?

[spark moon]

no

[cloud crypt]

Somehow adding lights in ov does not work for me

[steep hornet]

firstly I installed remix and tested that it works fine, then I just extracted widescreeenfix to the game directory, configured .ini and renamed d3d9 from dll to asi(note: I m trying to launch underground 1, not 2)

[vague sparrow]

no one is testing underground 1

🥲

[steep hornet]

the second game is more popular

[vague sparrow]

eh I played 1 religiously

[steep hornet]

it is not bad that guys are focused on only 1 project

[vague sparrow]

I mean I'm gonna do it anyway, ug1 has a special place in my heart for all the memories

I had with it

[thorny pawn]

agree we'll get ug1 eventually, but i also loved it, i'm honestly waiting for the RTX Remix app to be released because i don't have much time to mess around with manually editing files to replace models etc.

[steep hornet]

mb that can help for someone who have experience with remix to determine where issue is

[jade briar]

I played 1 a lot, but 2 is just better in every way.

[jade briar]

What's different about it?

[jade briar]

Did you edit the dxvk.conf, and bridge.conf?

[steep hornet]

created dxvk.conf in the folder with speed.exe and added lines from guide on reddit, also enabled useSharedHeap in bridge.conf

[jade briar]

Make sure to remove any "#" behind the line.

[wintry fable]

The map from demo is completely different. This map is leftover in files of some race maps. i believe that author just renamed file of that racetrack to work with freeroam

[steep hornet]

yeah, I know that lines with # are commented

[spark moon]

try and see how it looks....i redo every thing with directional light on...

[jade briar]

That's the problem. Directional lights make the game look like day time.

[jade briar]

Strange. Also try restarting your computer. I was having issues yesterday until I restarted.

[spark moon]

try without widescreenfix...and what did u changed in ini

[spark moon]

we can fix that...

[steep hornet]

it works fine without widescreenfix, but... idk how to play this XD

[spark moon]

in bridge .config enable windoed mode

[steep hornet]

didnt know that there is option like that, it can be solution for now

[spark moon]

with widescreen fic u probably doing somthing wrong

[steep hornet]

u was asking about what i did ini, just changed windowedmode to 3. Now i will try to restart system

[timid prairie]

+1 Русский, яху

[steep hornet]

Не, я Азербайджанец 🇦🇿

[timid prairie]

Таким тоже рад

[dreamy ether]

Fuuuun

[jade briar]

Yeah restarting fixed it for me.

[jade briar]

[dreamy ether]

My only advice would be is to turn on one of your favourite playlists and just go at it

[jade briar]

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[dreamy ether]

Makes the whole experience less painful

[steep hornet]

в ветке с сан адресом есть еще кто то

[jade briar]

One step ahead of you.

[dreamy ether]

Lol

[timid prairie]

PashOk тоже из этих

[steep hornet]

but my issue isnt fixed by restarting. but just for testing i can play with windowed mode from bridge.conf

[dreamy ether]

Why are the lines so long lol

That is my only criticism

[jade briar]

I guess that works.

[dreamy ether]

A lot of roads have shorter more reoccurring lines

Rather than only a few that are the same length as a car

Though I guess it’s hard to tell without a car for reference

[jade briar]

idk I just want it to be accurate to the game.

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-girl-tantrum-upset-mad-gif-17219035

[jade briar]

shut

[dreamy ether]

Either way works

The road looks amazing either way

You have way more dedication than me lol

[jade briar]

[dreamy ether]

I would have downloaded a road texture and split it in half

[jade briar]

I WAS GONNA DO THAT BUT YOU SAID THAT I SHOULD USE NODES

[steep hornet]

i already tested it. remix works fine on ug 1 for me without widescreenfix and with client.forceWindowed = True I can at least understand what is going on the screen. But if i can fix issue with widescreenfix that would be nice.

[dreamy ether]

I meant for the water lol

[jade briar]

No idea what's going wrong here.

[dreamy ether]

Nodes would probably be the best decision anyway because you get to customize the road more

[jade briar]

Yes.

[dreamy ether]

With nodes you’ll get to add dirt, snow and other effects way faster and easier then if you were to do it with just a texture

[jade briar]

"faster"

this guy

[dreamy ether]

Hey look

Im trying to ease your pain lol

Which is oozing through the screen lol

[jade briar]

🥲

[dreamy ether]

Nodes were probably the best decision though

[steep hornet]

i will try to find another game version

[dreamy ether]

Plus with nodes you won’t have to worry about keeping the road textures the same

[jade briar]

also the texture tiling node setup doesn't do shit for anything that's not a square.

[jade briar]

Yeah, I can make other variations of road markings faster now that I have the base setup.

[dreamy ether]

I mean you did it, and came out with an amazing result

[dreamy ether]

Indeed

[jade briar]

But it'll have very visible seams in the game.

That's a huge issue.

[dreamy ether]

Not much you can do with that

Especially if you want stuff to still line up

Besides

You can try to fix it in Blender by tiling it on a plane and fixing the issues there

[jade briar]

http://kitfox.com/projects/perlinNoiseMaker/

I found this

[dreamy ether]

Sorta like a mock road

[dreamy ether]

Noice

Yeah that saves a ton of time lol

Tillable noise

[jade briar]

Too many puddles and very wiggly

[dreamy ether]

Wiggly?

[jade briar]

Like

uhh

um

its like

[dreamy ether]

Lol

[jade briar]

not circular enough

[dreamy ether]

The road?

Or the puddles?

[jade briar]

the puddles

[dreamy ether]

Who said that the puddles need to be circular?

Nature doesn’t exist in perfect circles

[jade briar]

at least a little less distorted

This is acceptable.

[steep hornet]

decided to do clean install and to test game only with widescreenfix and it doesnt laucnh. So issue isnt in remix, will try on another game version later.

[dreamy ether]

Puddles but if nature forgot to put on her reading glasses

Lol

[jade briar]

uh huh

[dreamy ether]

Though it’s hard to tell

When your looking straight at it

[jade briar]

If only I had found the website before.

[dreamy ether]

lol

I can feel the regret

[vague sparrow]

Uncle burrito on its way to destroy the purpose of remix creator toolkit

[jade briar]

Well, setting up the other node based tiler only took me 10 minutes since I was following a tutorial, so most of the time was spent on making the road markings. I thought of a much efficient approach for making those lines which requires less brain cells and less nodes, so I finished it fairly quickly after I got back on.

[jade briar]

It can't make textures for me, can it now?

[dreamy ether]

What if I told you that you never even had to do these nodes if you had just split a road texture in half-

I am being extremely evil right now lol

For no real reason

[dreamy ether]

I mean

It was worth it

Road looks dope!

[jade briar]

Ok, so can you help me out with some maths. The original road texture is 64x512. I want the new texture to be 6k resolution. What will be the new resolution?

I'm stupid.

According to my calculations, the image should be 768x6144, but clearly that's wrong. Even the pixels aren't square. original vs baked for comparison.

[desert kestrel]

can't you use quixel assets for this?

[jade briar]

I want the assets to look as authentic as original. Also not a big fan of spending money.

[dreamy ether]

Just do 64 * 6

In the resolution box

And it will do it for you

Same with 512

[vague sparrow]

This untextured voxel like textures is actually passed through several texturing tilting shaders and antialiasing units with 30 instructions each, you need to completely replace it let the game do it's thing

maff 🤓

[desert kestrel]

afaik you can get free access to the entire megascans libary if you used unreal engine through your epic games account though i have no idea if that's a thing anymore

[dreamy ether]

Smort

[dreamy ether]

You can still do it

Because that’s what I do

[vague sparrow]

Uncle burrito using his 10 braincells to replace assets rn:

[dreamy ether]

It can just get you in some trouble

[jade briar]

Yeah, but getting caught using them outside of unreal is gonna get you in some trouble.

[desert kestrel]

oh

[dreamy ether]

Unless you buy them

[jade briar]

Don't underestimate punjabi brain.

[vague sparrow]

bro fr get a camera and go outside, take a picture and come back, edit it in PS and et voila!

i mean like the road or something

[dreamy ether]

Me who doesn’t have Photoshop:

[vague sparrow]

Gimp or paint.net

[dreamy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/crash-sad-crash-bandicoot-sony-sega-gif-16820140

[jade briar]

That's probably less work, but it is outside of my skill range so no.

[desert kestrel]

you can grab anything from a picture with blender

[jade briar]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-gif-18219884

[vague sparrow]

try

try to imagine

A road pavement

[dreamy ether]

If only it was that simple

[jade briar]

Yeah multiplying by 6 didn't do shit.

[desert kestrel]

https://youtu.be/Aj006df-boI

[dreamy ether]

Just do 1080p * 6

Bam

6K

And yes that works

Or should work

[jade briar]

But the texture is a rectangle

[dreamy ether]

Then look at the resolution of a rectangle in 1080p

And multiply it by 6

[jade briar]

huh

[dreamy ether]

Ye

[jade briar]

idk what that mean

brain't

[steep hornet]

Ok guys, issue is solved. It seems that this game copy was broken, downloaded another one and everything works fine. Now, do someone have rtx.conf for ug1?

[jade briar]

neat

[dreamy ether]

Oof

Just search up

What is the resolution of a rectangle in 1080p?

Also what’s the aspect ratio of the texture?

16:9?

[jade briar]

oh no

lemme try that

[vague sparrow]

bro wtf, that height is so huge

[dreamy ether]

Lool

Thing is the size of a skyscraper

[jade briar]

yeah, but look at this.

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[vague sparrow]

hmm

Is that the side of the road

In the video, only the centre of the road was changed

[jade briar]

which video

[vague sparrow]

The yoube viheo

🥶

[jade briar]

I have posted like 600 videos

Ah the one texture that I replaced a while ago

It was this one

The side.

[dreamy ether]

Interesting ratio

[jade briar]

Good job blender

[dreamy ether]

Blender is dying lol

[vague sparrow]

You don't need any more pixels lol why

[versed mortar]

Anyone here tried injecting into NFS World? About to give it a shot myself

I have no idea if Soapbox Race will let me do it

[jade briar]

Okay I'll take this

Oh no

It's like

124 mb

[ripe lotus]

134

[jade briar]

That's probably gonna be very bad for performance

I guess I can't go all out with the resolution.

[cloud crypt]

Looks gorgeos

[jade briar]

Gorgeos

[vague sparrow]

I swear the game is going to give 1fps because of the texture

😭

It's too much

[cloud crypt]

🤣

[timid prairie]

384

[cloud crypt]

Its too good, my road textures are about 30mb each in dds format

In pbr probably 10 times that big

[dreamy ether]

Do some lossless compression

[jade briar]

It's 100% png compression

[dreamy ether]

Also make sure to crank the Blender Compression up to max

[dreamy ether]

I meant on a 3rd party

Not the best-

But it could help

[tawny elk]

You need to use DDS textures for remix to keep performance up

[dreamy ether]

Yeah-

I don’t know why I never thought of that

Usually I’m trying to convert from DDS

Not to DDS

Also doesn’t NVTT have a compression option?

Nvidia Texture Tool

[tawny elk]

Yes

[dreamy ether]

That should help with performance aswell

[tawny elk]

There’s some command line exes if you want to do it as a batch

[dreamy ether]

Yeah

[jade briar]

It's still gonna be a huge memory hog.

[tawny elk]

How big are the textures?

[jade briar]

and it's just one texture out of a few more for pbr.

[dreamy ether]

Also why did the textures have to be 6K?

[tawny elk]

Oh yea

No good.

[jade briar]

idk more detail.

[dreamy ether]

You can’t even see that resolution on most monitors

Hell most people have 1080p

Very few have 4K

Let alone the ability to see 6K

Bump it down to 4K

Trust me

[tawny elk]

You wanna keep them boys around a few megabytes at most afaik.

[dreamy ether]

No one will ever see 6K levels of detail

Especially when driving

[tawny elk]

DDS is handled a special way on the gpu as well that improved performance.

[dreamy ether]

But yeah

4K textures equals a huge performance increase

It’s one thing to add detail, but why add detail that only you can see in freecam or with a huge monitor

Really bad use of memory and computer resources

@jade briar

[jade briar]

hmm

[dreamy ether]

It’s worth the change

[dreamy ether]

Also remember

You want this to run on things like the RTX3060

Not everyone has 4090’s. What may run well for you would kill a lot of people’s computers

[jade briar]

I'll see what I can do. need a bath. it's getting very hot.

[dreamy ether]

You also need sleep

[cloud crypt]

I could convrtt to dds

[dreamy ether]

Bro didn’t sleep all of last night

lol

Health comes before Remix

[tawny elk]

I can batch convert them all to dds if ya want

[dreamy ether]

You should probably do that

Would save a ton of preformance

[small acorn]

widescreenfix didn't worked for me too

[small acorn]

bro just getting his flow D:

[jade briar]

Bros. I appreciate you guys trying to help out, but I also have nvtt

[vague sparrow]

ok.

[jade briar]

ok.

[dreamy ether]

Ok.

[dreamy ether]

Question is, have you tried the Nvidia DDS importer/exporter I told you about?

Lol

[jade briar]

The blender plugin?

[dreamy ether]

Yeah

Don’t feel like you have to if your busy

[jade briar]

I haven't

[dreamy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-jesus-i-will-send-you-to-jesus-gif-25817244

[jade briar]

It's really hot today. Like I've been sweating all day. Can't focus for shit.

[dreamy ether]

Makes sense

To bad you can’t make the PC become AC by turning the fans to max while the computer is cold

[dreamy ether]

I wish you the best of luck in your quest of not to die of heatstroke

[jade briar]

Pretty sure it'll make my room even warmer

The power of the fortinity

[dreamy ether]

F

[vague sparrow]

Cumistan temps always like that

[jade briar]

Uh huh

[vague sparrow]

https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1110245358040260668

who's going to try this

[jade briar]

Why

[vague sparrow]

ok.

[jade briar]

What graphics card do u have?

[vague sparrow]

HD 4850 512 megs

[jade briar]

💀

[vague sparrow]

fear not my child

[jade briar]

Does it have rtx?

[vague sparrow]

i am upgrading

soon™️

[vague sparrow]

it has 69 goobblefarts per second performace, muhc better htan trtx

[jade briar]

The story of my life. Until I did upgrade.

Sometimes I wish Nvidia took warmer countries into consideration

[vague sparrow]

by giving us a free RTX air conditioner?

[jade briar]

Where is it

I want it

Rgb ac

[vague sparrow]

this man will deliver it to you in no time

[jade briar]

Oh this

He's fucked up

[vague sparrow]

bro we need him rather than Santa

[jade briar]

Guess what. Santa isn't real

[steep hornet]

I fixed that, just downloaded another game version.(now I'm on 1.4.0)

[spark moon]

i fixed it

[cloud crypt]

What did you fix?

[vague sparrow]

Your mom isn't real

[spark moon]

lighting blinking issue

[tawny elk]

The lights are still culling sadly. They disappear above you :/

[spark moon]

looks lot better

[spark moon]

wtf

[surreal ruin]

I see we can deliver Tofu in style now

[cloud crypt]

short question guys. Esspecialy to you @jade briar (sry for ping) Is it ok to you guys if a make a youtube Video about NFS U2 RTX Remix and how it is going. And is it ok if i use shared content from this thread for it?

I have a youtube channel (over 2000 subscribers) where i post stuff about old NFS games:https://youtube.com/@hellrxvenexp

The names of everyone who is working on this game will also be stated

[jade briar]

Uhh. Yeah sure.

I'm afraid that this little two day side quest might turn into something larger than I can handle3.

lol

[cloud crypt]

which 2 day sidequest? XD

[jade briar]

Making underground 2 work with remix.

It turned into one of the larger projects that use remix.

[timid prairie]

I think every project where Remix starting to working and its possible to start make it look good becomes large, like Freedom Fighters for example

[jade briar]

Oh damn. The video is like 6k views.

[dreamy ether]

Just make sure to let people know that this is a side project of yours and not to over promise

As it can be very easy to promise stuff when there's a ton of people chomping at the bit to see more work

Also make sure to not loose sight of why you originally started this

pretend I actually sent that message-

but yeah you get the point lol

I know it can sound strange now

but you'd be surprised on how fast things can go from "working on this because I want to" to "working on this because six thousand people want to see more"

Anyway, rant over

lol

Hope that helps somewhat!

[dreamy ether]

Also I'm fine with it. Though I don't know how much I exactly helped per-say

[digital lance]

yo, I drop the contents of the remix 0.2.0 archive into the nfs underground 1 root folder, then drop the contents of the bridge-remix-main and dxvk-remix-main archives into the .trex folder, and edited the lines in the files (# removed):

in dxvk.conf

d3d9.customDeviceId = 0110
d3d9.customVendorId = 10de
d3d9.shaderModel=0

in bridge.conf

useSharedHeap = True

and when I run speed.exe game freezes at the loading stage and crashes

what is the problem?

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[cloud crypt]

why i always have daytime :/

[cloud crypt]

first of all. bridge goes into game directory, dvxk goes into trex folder

[digital lance]

ill fix it now

[spark moon]

ur headlights not working....any solution.... head lights are giving me bs

[cloud crypt]

i tried adding lights with ov but somehow they wont be shown in u2

[spark moon]

disable directional light under parameter tuning then lighting

[cloud crypt]

already turned off, i am not that dumb xD

[digital lance]

moved bridge to the root, still the same

nothing if bridge remained in trex? or should i remove it completely?

and in the logs above it wrote that the bridge config was found

[cloud crypt]

just copy and paste

[digital lance]

works fine, ty so much

by the way, there are much fewer files than mine 0_0

[cloud crypt]

u used the wrong files

[digital lance]

maybe

guess I downloaded the source code lol

[small acorn]

opposite. bridge.conf in trex, dxvk.conf in game exe folder

[manic eagle]

is this archive suitable for nfsu2? I don’t really understand in the compilation, but I compiled the files according to the guide, threw everything like it should, the game just doesn’t start)

[digital lance]

you can try instead of waiting for an answer

should work

how and where do you guys edit materials?

[cloud crypt]

omniverse, but i still did not figured out how exactly, the videos in community contribution dont help either

[digital lance]

ty

Im brainstorming tomorrow

[spark moon]

https://youtu.be/2vou8ocM6XE

[digital lance]

you have stable 60 fps on video, what is the problem?

[jade briar]

what

[cloud crypt]

every car has now the same color...

[spark moon]

There's no problem footage is at 480p

[digital lance]

idk why but I suddenly remembered my sad experience in ue4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoYdg5QPF_4

[spark moon]

This is why didn't bothered to install Omniverse

[digital lance]

because porting a game to ue4 is easier than understanding the omniverse?

true

[spark moon]

Why is your car black

[cloud crypt]

the question is, why is it seethrough

[jade briar]

Guess what

This issue is really bad. Take a look.

[cloud crypt]

this hurts

[dreamy ether]

It's not a bug, it's a feature

[spark moon]

I think you guys need to change it texture by texture to make it work due customisatiable parts

[small acorn]

well, it works. kinda. pulse neon is pulsing only when you drive)

[jade briar]

I think the pulse neon is unstable geometry. Can you check if it is in geo hash?

[small acorn]

no, it's stable. i think problem is in the way the game handles animated things like water or these things up above

[jade briar]

Like the geo hash flickering every frame

You have to look at the geo hash debug mode to know

[small acorn]

WARNING! FLASHES!

[small acorn]

geo hash is instable with water surface and animations, i.e there are couple instances of animation but remix captures only one state

[jade briar]

Mine doesn't look like that

[small acorn]

i modded it, added emissive map

[jade briar]

But I'm talking about the geometry hash. Because neons working only when you drive is probably because of the mesh refreshing.

Ah

That explains

[chrome meadow]

BTW there are two meshes stacked on top of the other for the long segments, one for the neon itself which is almost completely hidden under the car (the one marked on the screenshot) and one for the glow (which can't see as I removed since RTX Remix shouldn't need it) and smaller pieces to connect the segments (18 I think).
All appear to be using the same texture, I don't know why they used two meshes, I will give a look to see if the ones for glow are moved installing body parts

[small acorn]

i think one is for widebody

[chrome meadow]

Engineers mentioned that RTX Remix have some issue with blinking stuff

[cloud crypt]

changed some things in the garage

some small changes (maybe nor noticable at all xD)

setting roughnes to minus values looks crazy

[chrome meadow]

You probably brake the laws of physics 😆

[dreamy ether]

You’ve turned the Skyline into a black hole

It absorbs all light

Lol

[cloud crypt]

XD, ive already have returned it to the state of the picture before. And i could solve tje where my game got brighter when i started driving. It now stays night time🤣

Now i only have to figure out on how i set lights correctly in Omniversere. For simple streetlights it seems to be easy but time consuming. For cars it is a hell of work to do it correctly...

[dreamy ether]

Oof lol

[cloud crypt]

I wonder how @small acorn got it done...

[vague sparrow]

Anchor cone light prim to a mesh at some coord and like save it as .USDA file

[barren ivy]

where i put rtx files to nfsu2?

[spark moon]

@cloud crypt you can also lower down eyeadaptation or disable to fix daylight issue

[vague sparrow]

Root directory

[barren ivy]

but it can t open

[trail quail]

are you sending the scene to omniverse to edit lights, then exporting back to the game ?

[barren ivy]

it says i don t have compatible gpu, but i have vulkan compatible gpu

[vague sparrow]

What gpu

You have

@barren ivy

[cobalt peak]

How do I get the Underground 2 rtx remix to work?

[vague sparrow]

follow my guide from this #1103377328530276403 message

[cobalt peak]

Thanks 🙂

[spark moon]

pin this new ppl coming asking same questions

[vague sparrow]

Or just copy the message and pin it here

[tawny elk]

Added to the pinned message 👍

[jade briar]

huh

[vague sparrow]

yuh

[tawny elk]

[vague sparrow]

@jade briar u in pun ja b

?

[valid geyser]

i'll write a blogpost on tutorials on getting it to work

tho with the next version it should be the same process for all 3 games that currently work

also y'all
check #news

[vague sparrow]

so underground 1 and 2 + Most wanted?

[valid geyser]

yes

[jade briar]

Yes

Yeah, I saw the news channel

[surreal ruin]

Did you solve your DDS export issue?

[vague sparrow]

are you a uni dude or something, ik 4090 is not in the realms of avg person from there

alright, back to topic

You guys think it's possible to hide the culled lamplights from the game using omniverse for ug2

and then add a light to it

see if it still disappears or not

I just can't test it so I want someone to experiment

[jade briar]

I am an animator. Also uni.

Tbh, I never thought I'd be able to afford anything other than a GTX 750

[vague sparrow]

shit be pretty bad here I sold my 750 ti for 5k in local market only to see it rise to 18k

that was like 5 years ago

[jade briar]

The light would be attached to a lamp object, and disappear as soon as the parent object disappears

I sold for like 8k

In 2020

[vague sparrow]

But......replace asset and add a light to it

Ik you get corrupted UV

If you replace models rn

But I'm just testing for light source only

[surreal ruin]

Replaced models still cull like the old models

They don't replace any of the game logic

Just what is displayed

[vague sparrow]

You mean even if I anchor a small model to the games culled model, it still disappears

Anchoring as in, adding a child mesh to it

[surreal ruin]

Not really sure how Omniverse woudl treat that, but Mark did a writeup a while back explaining that the games culling is still in charge

So most likely any children would be culled along with the main asset yeah

As it's just replacing hashes

[jade briar]

Yeah, it would depend on the parent model in the game to be visible to be replaced

[vague sparrow]

Hmm

What about the side walk

Attach the light lamp right where the original light post would be

[jade briar]

Sidewalks and roads also disappear behind the player. Not all sidewalks and roads have lamps near them.

[vague sparrow]

grrrhhhh 😬😭

[jade briar]

So places supposed to have lamps would have floating lights

[surreal ruin]

In case you missed my earlier question : Did you figure out what was going on with your DDS exports?

Because I've checked out the file more and noticed that it opens up looking visually different every time it's loaded

Something is majorly busted with it

[jade briar]

Yeah, mark helped figure out

The resolution was incorrect

It was not divisible by 4

[surreal ruin]

Like I was saying then ^^'

Okay cool, good to know

[vague sparrow]

Why's it necessary to be exactly that

[surreal ruin]

Game engines handle things like mipmapping of textures in specific ways

[jade briar]

Idk it's nvidia

[surreal ruin]

So they need certain squared resolutions to work

[vague sparrow]

hmm

Good to know

[surreal ruin]

Basically every game engine on the planet functions this way

At least modern ones

[vague sparrow]

I'm still trying to brainstorm ideas but all of them just backfire if i think about it thoroughly

🤔

[surreal ruin]

The most reliable way of taking care of those issues would be to figure out how to make the actual base game engine just render things further in the distance

So it'll be more about modding the OG game then doing remix stuff

[vague sparrow]

there's this RE_UG2 if anyone wants to muck around

looking at game logic and stuff

[barren ivy]

i read the specs on web and it said u need an vulkan gpu to play lol

i have an vulkan gpu

[surreal ruin]

What GPU do you have?

[vague sparrow]

3070 ti?

[barren ivy]

nah, i have weak gpu

[vague sparrow]

oh wait that's someone else gpu

[surreal ruin]

Okay but which GPU? X)

[vague sparrow]

maybe it's not remix compatible

[surreal ruin]

In order to run Remix you need something that does raytracing at the minumum

[barren ivy]

isn t rtx capable it s amd

AMD RX550 4GB GDDR5

lol

[surreal ruin]

Yeah that won't work

[barren ivy]

so

i will wait to release i think

[vague sparrow]

or buy a new gpu

that will never work

Unless Linux (very very very unlikely)

[barren ivy]

i can t afford a new fucking gpu, it s expensive, but like i said, i will wait for the release

[surreal ruin]

Very understandable! The problem is that the GPU you have at the moment can not ray trace

And RTremix is all about that, it's the whole point of it

So a GPU like that will sadly just never function with it

[vague sparrow]

yeah it uses some dedicated hardware on the gpu to do ray tracing which unfortunately isn't available on your card

Sorry if my wording sounded harsh but it is what it is

[barren ivy]

i know but i read on the web u need an vulkan gpu to PLAY not to CREATE so it s annoying

[vague sparrow]

No

That's not

Your saying the opposite

[surreal ruin]

You need an RTX compatible card

To play OR create

Your current card will never be able to play or create RTX remix projects

[barren ivy]

oh...

[jade briar]

The thing is that vulkan is just an api. Manu gpus support vulkan. Raytracing, however requires raytracing specific hardware. You need a gpu that supports both vulkan AND raytracing for it to work. All raytracing compatible cards support vulkan, but not all vulkan supported cards support raytracing.

[barren ivy]

i think i will buy an nvidia gpu with ray tracing capabilities

and vulkan

[jade briar]

yes. Anything above the 20 series can run remix just fine. Although some older nvidia cards can run raytracing, they won't be powerful enough to actually run the game at a smooth framerate.

[barren ivy]

what gpu u recommend me for playing at good fps

like 60

i think rtx 3090

[jade briar]

Well, if you have that kind of money, then sure.

Maybe save up a little bit more and get a 4090

But a 3070ti would also work just fine. I had that before.

[vague sparrow]

how much did you get it for

[jade briar]

the 3070?

[vague sparrow]

yuh huh

pricing here is so busted i can't buy it

[jade briar]

I got it for like 175k back when the dollar was at a semi acceptable rate, and the gpu shortage was really bad.

But I've seen people selling used 3070tis for as low as 100k

I sold mine for 90k, and bought the 4090 at 450k.

But the dollar rate has gone really bad since then.

[vague sparrow]

I'm looking for 90 but can't find any, scammers everywhere

[jade briar]

idk anything about karachi market, but things here are not too bad.

Things here are almost always in stock.

I recommend looking at the market instead of trying to get it from individual sellers on olx

[vague sparrow]

nah I'm looking in local market almost every weekend

But I'm trying to save some cash if I wait long enough, maybe like August?

Maybe it can come below 75 🥺

[jade briar]

below 75

Yeah, that's highly unlikely.

Tho all the miners have sold their cards now, so you just might be able to find something at about 85

I remember when I went to buy my 3070, people were coming in and getting 3090s in bulk for mining.

Not anymore.

Market has crashed.

[vague sparrow]

I feel violated

Say your sorry

😊

[jade briar]

Make me

[vague sparrow]

My estimated reaction

[jade briar]

ok.

[cobalt peak]

Ye, I have the 3070 Ti

[vague sparrow]

ok.

@trail quail

[jade briar]

Finally. PBR.

[vague sparrow]

are you using a wet road generator of some kind?

needs some refinement but i'll just leave it here and wait for proper tools

water should be like sitting idle on the banks of road and not in the middle as puddle cuz that's how roads are made

[cloud crypt]

Damn

Looks awesomr, now do all the roads

[jade briar]

I literally showed the nodes I used in blender.

[vague sparrow]

sorry bro i sleep when you wake up

show me where it is

[cloud crypt]

From where are you guys

[jade briar]

You saw it.

[jade briar]

nuh uh

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-sleep-goodnight-meme-goodnight-bro-minecraft-gif-21455562

[spark moon]

did you guys figured headlight fix @jade briar @cloud crypt

[cloud crypt]

Not yet, i am at work

I look into it when i am back home

[cobalt peak]

Ayo did ya upload your mod.usda and rtx.conf?

[jade briar]

I did

[cobalt peak]

In this channel?

[jade briar]

Here's everything including the remix, mod, the rtx conf, and everything you need to run.

[cobalt peak]

Nice, thanks alot 🙂

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-worship-worshipping-now-bowing-gif-12297363

[spark moon]

did u fixed headlights?

[jade briar]

I haven't even tried adding headlights yet.

[spark moon]

Are u using PBROven

[jade briar]

I don't even what that is

[cloud crypt]

My garage textures look better and will look even better when i added maps

[spark moon]

i did this one click

[jade briar]

What does it do

[spark moon]

change it to pbr i think

anchor made a software

[jade briar]

Yeah, I'd manually reamaster the assets instead of relying on some algorithm

[spark moon]

as u wish still look good

[cloud crypt]

Noice

But somehow the asphalt is to plane

[spark moon]

looks good road is little distracting

got the ai's headlight working still my car dont have 😣

[surreal ruin]

T's a nice start, but you should consider making the general asphalt more rough to get rid of some of the plasticy look, and icrease the contrast between puddle and stain a bit more.

[jade briar]

[surreal ruin]

I'd also try to keep the water to road ratio like maybe at around 70/30 or so?

Having TOO much noise in the road texture itself can be a detriment to gameplay, just keep that in mind ^^

Don't want to cause much visual confusion whilst driving fast

HMmm that's interesting too, so the road textures seem to be mirrored right, they're the same on the left and right sides of the road

Which results in a rorschach style pattern with the puddles

So perhaps keeping the puddles more to the outer parts of the road and having less of them on the side with the white stripe would help clear up some of that effect

[jade briar]

The thing is thatm in blender I see one thing, but in game it looks a little different.

Could add some bumpiness to the roads tho.

[manic eagle]

can't rtx 2070s process remix 😅 normally, I get 14-17 frames 🥹 at fhd screen resolution

[surreal ruin]

Yeah this is super common

I'd just open up your roughness texture in Photoshop and tweak the curves a little bit

[jade briar]

It's pretty weak. Use dlss

[vague sparrow]

Something about the road feels off, can't pinpoint it though

[cloud crypt]

Any suggestions for a good garage floor i could make?

[cloud crypt]

This is just for testing some stuff

[spark moon]

puddles are in order but in irl will not be that off

[vague sparrow]

Time to look at actual roads when it's raining

[small acorn]

puddle size is small i think

and too frequent

[cloud crypt]

Take a look in nfs 2015. These roads looking gorgoes when it rained

[vague sparrow]

Let's just like copy nfs 2015 road pbr then

Unless copyright infringement

don't want that

[surreal ruin]

The more recent NFS games used shaders for that kind of stuff though, puddle placements and dynamic masks etc etc

We can't really replicate the same effect with only texture replacements

And so far, texture replacements is all we've got

Janky UV stretches, odd UV cuts and mirrored textures is something we simply can't avoid I'm afraid!

[cloud crypt]

Yes but we can learn the placement

[surreal ruin]

It'll be about learning how to work with what's available until we can actually do mesh replacements

When mesh replacements are a go, then we can start throwing parties

[cloud crypt]

But the way the road looks can be adapted. Add more grain etc like in 2015

[surreal ruin]

Yeah no for sure!

[vague sparrow]

Truly one of the most roads of all time

[cloud crypt]

Most?

[surreal ruin]

It's just a meme don't worry'bout it

[spark moon]

ur config has lot of flickering

[jade briar]

How so?

[spark moon]

try mine u will undestand

[jade briar]

lets see

[spark moon]

plus ur light sprite looks bad

[jade briar]

Which light sprite?

[spark moon]

all of them u can notice in main menu too

[jade briar]

oh you mean emmissive texrtures?

[spark moon]

yea immesive light

[surreal ruin]

2D halo textures like lens flares or "glowy lights" are commonly referred to as sprites or Billboards in various engines

[jade briar]

I increased the brightness, because the game looked too dark to me. I see no flickering. A lot of light poles in your rtx.conf don't have any lights.

[jade briar]

I disabled lens flare billboards because they look stupid to me.

[surreal ruin]

Like these right

[spark moon]

show me which one

[surreal ruin]

Yeah I figured you'd do that! It makes sense

These days with HDR blooming we don't need billboards for that stuff often anymore

As game engines just do it anyway

[jade briar]

They don't work with realistic lighting.

[jade briar]

yeah

[surreal ruin]

Eeeh they CAN be made to, we still use them from time to time when we're looking for specific effects

[spark moon]

show me which one

[surreal ruin]

But the way that old games do it wont' hold up today

Without any fancy shader techniques that is

[jade briar]

yes

[vague sparrow]

@jade briar can you make puddles look like this and not random? #1103377328530276403 message

[jade briar]

maybe

[vague sparrow]

good enough for me

[jade briar]

remix is weird.

[vague sparrow]

truly it is

you know what else is weird

[spark moon]

strange for me they have

[surreal ruin]

Honestly you just need to increase the contrast of your roughness map, so that the puddles hit that pure black and the concrete is almost white

Should do the trick

And then shift the puddles to be centered around the corner that connects to the curb

Aaand that should do it

Thing is we can't really smack in super specific details like lots of long cracks and stuff

Because this one road texture is pretty much used across the entire game as far as I understand yeah?

So if we placed those kinds of details on the road texture, they'd be literally everywhere and the repetition would be SUPER obvious

[vague sparrow]

not even seemless textures would work

[surreal ruin]

Well I mean the textures have to be seamless in the first place in order to loop the road correctly

The original ones are too

[jade briar]

Yeah, I kinda wish that remix wasn't so blotchy with its reflections.

The power of denoising

[vague sparrow]

Turn it off

The denoiser

Then add dlss

Recipe for disaster

😂

[cloud crypt]

😅🤣

Noise everywhere

[vague sparrow]

You'll get these small tiled boxes everywhere, probably how dlss works

[spark moon]

no i missed some lights found one...any way fixed the flickering....cant find whre u are in the pic... lol how to see wholw map ?

[cobalt peak]

I miss the times when 2080 Ti was the chad graphics card

[jade briar]

can't

[spark moon]

when i press B i see headlights working then nothing...

[cloud crypt]

They do not work lol, its just textures

The occlusion gets culled, thats why

[spark moon]

adding light also dont work

[cloud crypt]

I also tried in ov

Its tricky but i found a way

I will post later

[jade briar]

Because they're colling from the back.

[jade briar]

ok.

[jade briar]

ok.

[spark moon]

https://tenor.com/view/ear-rape-ears-loud-too-loud-ear-bleed-gif-23922272

[small acorn]

high car model quality removes culling in front of the car

[cloud crypt]

Not for me

[small acorn]

add light for the headlight texture

[spark moon]

do u know which one is it

[spark moon]

any way i tried some how it worked once never after that...every car has differnt headlights

[small acorn]

yes, they are different:/

[cloud crypt]

Ill test when i am home

[jade briar]

I'm losing sanity real quick.

[spark moon]

now i remember adding light gives only one light

[cloud crypt]

It hast to be the opposite i think....

[jade briar]

Apparently I turned on clearcoat sometime.

prolly a missclick.

[cloud crypt]

Back at home now.
Now i will take a look on asding lights via ov and creating PBR garage floor

[cloud crypt]

well, ive added lights, but they seem to be for neon xD

[cloud crypt]

ive set up a light coming from our viewpoint in the main menu. Now the endless darkness is gone and Tuning is enjoyable again xD

[cobalt peak]

Oh, nice 🙂

[surreal ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/deja-vu-anime-car-gif-24099480

Let's goooo

[cloud crypt]

Some lights added

[jade briar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028444668918235197/1110658330864664586/image.png

[cloud crypt]

??

[safe patrol]

good, but that neon on the building on the right is a little bit too much

[jade briar]

3 textures

[cloud crypt]

currently i am tweaking it

[spark moon]

all those three texutures not matching

[spark moon]

fix the headlight dont check in garage because headlights are off in garage

[jade briar]

Damn bro. Reall?

lol

yeah I know

Just comparing what l;ooks best

I like the one on the right

[cloud crypt]

well 1 and 3 for me

[surreal ruin]

I think the right one is ALMOST there

It's definitely in the lead

[jade briar]

yeah

[spark moon]

this already had a easy fix

[cloud crypt]

i did got it working for a small amount of time, but somehow it behaved stranged. I dont know which type of light is the right one... Sphere light int the right one because everthing becomes lighten up

[spark moon]

yea

[spark moon]

i dont think so thats gonna work

[dreamy gazelle]

guys, I'm following the thread and have 0 experience in helping with the project, anyway I just want to say that you are making a pretty awesome work with this!
just some days ago we thought it couldn't be possible, now you are already changing the graphics and adapting to the modern times.
congrats to everyone helping with the project and keep rocking! 👏 👏

[jade briar]

thx. Life is pain.

[spark moon]

Underground nice

[spark moon]

did u figured out for every car

[small acorn]

nope

[cloud crypt]

and now lets go back to do some headlights... will be pain

[cloud crypt]

what light type to you use? Sphere or smth else?

[small acorn]

these are standard added lights for a texture, but i tried using point spere lights, yes

[cloud crypt]

You cant create a mesh and add a reference to it either... that would have made thing way easier

no matter what mesh you select, its always linked to the middle of the car

[surreal ruin]

All the car parts most likely have their pivot points set to the centre of the vehicle so that they all can rotate using the same values

Very very very common

[cloud crypt]

yeah, but that makes it literally impossible to add lights to the meshes, because every time i do the underside of the car glows

[surreal ruin]

Can lights only be attached to the pivot of a mesh?

That seems strange

[cloud crypt]

well in the main menu it worked well, i linked the light only to one mesh and copied it somewhere, this wont work on cars and and i dont know why

[surreal ruin]

The world objects for menu cars and drivable cars are most likely different from one another

The menus don't need the driving logic etc so it's probably set up completely differently

[cloud crypt]

i dont meant the menu cars, the object themselve i meant, like a lamp

but i get what you mean

[surreal ruin]

Aah, yeah not really following! But it sounds odd that lights only want to attach to origin points

[cloud crypt]

dont know what to do in my free time

[dreamy ether]

What's free time?

I have never heard of it before

[cloud crypt]

i think my normal map is broken...

[jade briar]

strange.

[surreal ruin]

Looks about right judging by what it looks like in photoshop

The intensity is pretty high!

[velvet rivet]

way too high

that's more like a rock than a smooth showroom platform

[cloud crypt]

this looks better

[dreamy ether]

It needs some shine though