NFSU2 (Need For Speed Underground 2)

[dreamy ether]

As a Blender person, I approve of this statement

Blender fixes everything

[jade briar]

💯

[dreamy ether]

It's the Swiss Army Knife of 3D Software

[unborn sluice]

it looks fine to me you gotta just tune it

[jade briar]

Strange. Every time I set a light as a texture, it is so bright, that it singes my eyeballs.

[unborn sluice]

just lower the intensity, I forgot where it is but you can find it if you look carefully

[jade briar]

I've been looking.

[cloud crypt]

Howww???

[small acorn]

in lighting section

[jade briar]

ah

thx

This changes a lot.

[jade briar]

Also, how did you setup the skybox and main directional light?

[small acorn]

i disabled directional lights there are two skybox textures, one is rectangular and second is circle

[jade briar]

yeah, I figured that I'd have to disable directional lights.

[unborn sluice]

there are 3 skyboxes in total, maybe more

I don't remember how I did my setup though.

it got reset when I launched the game today

it might be related to the bug that corrupts textures after some limit

[jade briar]

Spends 2 hours making a semi custom texture for the road. Opens up the game. There's more to the side of the road.

[cloud crypt]

yeah yeah... 5 minute config xD

if i only had better road textures like PBR ones xD

[unborn sluice]

is there a way to improve culling

as soon as a light gets out of the sight, it dissapears

[jade briar]

Before anyone says use anti culling. It sucks.

[cloud crypt]

have the same problem. And enemy cars are really reflective...

[jade briar]

Now this is epic.

[cloud crypt]

the glow on some lights are to heavy, but yeah. Looks awesome so far

well have to say until tomoroow, have to go to bed :% ... work is waiting...

[jade briar]

sure

I did turn it wayy down, but it turns everything down, so some areas look too dark. Had to find a nice middleground.

[jade briar]

The nfs soundtrack has been re embedded into my brain

[cloud crypt]

Oh black betty bam ba dam🤣🤣

[timid prairie]

My favourite

[small acorn]

played with volumetrics a bit

[cloud crypt]

Hm, adding volumentrics to Underground 2 could also be awesome

[open atlas]

Can you send me the config?

[jade briar]

I contacted a script mod developer for some help. He has a lot of nice script mods for underground 2. He might be able to figure out a way to disable culling from game side.

[dreamy ether]

looks cool! Though the back window has ceased existing lol

[cloud crypt]

That would be awesome because it could fix the whole lighting

[jade briar]

Yes.

[chrome meadow]

I was looking to figure out what was preventing Vampire:Bloodlines from working and before NVIDIA dropped the update 💚 I got a look at Underground 2 since it was having the same problem, so if anyone wondered how a NfS:U2 frame is made I will upload the video from the frame debugger for mere "educational" purposes

[outer jay]

Niiiiiiiiceeeeeeeee, it loads and I see RT shadows and stuff!

I had the PS2 version so this would be a major upgrade 👀

[tawny elk]

How do you do this

[chrome meadow]

It's the frame debugger from Nsight, it have a lot of cool function like inspecting draw calls, visualize geometry, textures, 0disassembling shaders...

[crude whale]

Someone able to help out with Hot Pursuit 2?

[tawny elk]

How’d you get nsight working with u2? I thought it didn’t work with d3d9 or x86

[chrome meadow]

The last version that support DX9 is the 5.6

[tawny elk]

You completed a very important quest, without even knowing you started it.

[chrome meadow]

it works in visual studio 2017/2019

[tawny elk]

I’ve been looking for a dx9 debugger for months.

[chrome meadow]

I started using apitrace on Vampire because was the one immediately available with the aim of trying Nsight, then you said that Underground 2 was crashing with apitrace so I found the latest working version for DX9 and here we are

[tawny elk]

Does it just hook without any modification to the exe? I know later versions of visual studio require it to be a debug build.

[vague sparrow]

i love this video ♥️

[vague sparrow]

you should post it on youtube

[small acorn]

it'not a window, but car inside

[jade briar]

I'll record again at lossless quality.

[cloud crypt]

Hopefully culling can get fixed

[jade briar]

Hopefully.

We are 🤏 this close to a perfect gameplay experience.

[jade kayak]

With Far camera, objects seem to unload later than with a Close camera, maybe there's a way to trick the game into thinking the camera is further than it really is

[cloud crypt]

@jade briar first srry for ping, but could you share your new configured rtx.conf? Seems like you got all the light textures marked.

[vague sparrow]

and his mod.usda

🔥

[cloud crypt]

Yeah, would be great😅

[jade briar]

I haven't marked all, but a a large portion of the first part of the map area is marked.

I have scroll wheel syndrome now

[vague sparrow]

have you enabled light anti-culling?

[jade briar]

Doesn't do much.

[cloud crypt]

Thats worse than with, i tried it

[cloud crypt]

Also the game does culling by itself

[cloud crypt]

Thx very much

[jade briar]

Try to guess which texture I replaced.

[vague sparrow]

bery kewl

[cloud crypt]

Mid road, done with blender without a good pbr xD

[cloud crypt]

Whats that🤣🤣 is that you?

[vague sparrow]

no

that's shrek's baby

[cloud crypt]

Damn, its ugly

[jade briar]

No that's seth

[vague sparrow]

No that's seth

[cloud crypt]

Seth is the lid of adam

He betrayed eva

[left rapids]

This should go in #showcase
👏 👍

[cloud crypt]

Already there

[jade briar]

He's from this shitpost of a kickstarter campaign I found with my friends.

[jade briar]

go look

[cloud crypt]

Bruh... looks like a bad star wars rip of

[jade briar]

Don't think too hard about it

[cloud crypt]

God help, that like luke trying to help vader escaping the dark side🤣

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-office-the-confused-gif-18721992

[chrome meadow]

Yes, you just load in, to be precise this is entirely the work of Nsight, I didn't test VS tools.
The HUD (the tool you see in the video) work also as a standalone, you can launch a software though it

I'm on an old laptop as I'm away from my beloved 4090 😢 so I don't know compatibility with latest cards

[jade briar]

Yeah, the 4090 ain't doing me a whole lot good with nfs. 40 ish fps at 1440p no dlss because fuck dlss.

[cloud crypt]

I get 30 with 4070 ti xD

[vague sparrow]

Disable denoiser

😊

[jade briar]

uh huh

[vague sparrow]

yeah it sucks out like 10-20% of frames

[jade briar]

lemme try

[vague sparrow]

Also you can make out more details (sharper shadows and reflections) at the cost of bloody noise

[jade briar]

oh yeah

it do give me a few fps

[tawny elk]

I just get an error trying to start anything through it :/

[spark moon]

where to put mod.usda file ?

[chrome meadow]

What did you tried, just through the HUD Launcher? you need Launch both the Nsight Monitor and HUD with administrator right

[tawny elk]

./rtxremix/mods/gameReadyAssets/mod.usda

[spark moon]

pretty cool @jade briar

[vague sparrow]

we need progress on ug1 and hp2 so....

https://tenor.com/view/no-power-power-outage-simpsons-darkness-hurricane-gif-12515858

[spark moon]

hp2

=

harrry potter ?

[cloud crypt]

Hot pursuit lol

[spark moon]

damm thats what happen with harry potter fan...lul

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/medkit-deletus-gif-25082344

sir this is a christian need for speed thread

[jade briar]

nice resolution

[spark moon]

just copied ug1 files to 2 and did not bothered to change it in excitement

[vague sparrow]

#1103377328530276403 message try putting these in ug1

[vague sparrow]

not everyone has a 4090

[jade briar]

L

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

[jade briar]

Typical attrm L

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/middle-finger-baby-pacifier-gif-11848730

[spark moon]

leme check

[tawny elk]

I think the problem is from me using VS2019

[vague sparrow]

isn't like the new VS 2023?

[tawny elk]

The nsight version that works with dx9 games was made for vs2017, so you gotta use an old version

[cloud crypt]

4070Ti is more than enough. 3090Ti power for less money🤷‍♂️😋

[vague sparrow]

and half the vram (probably not needed due to gaming)

[cloud crypt]

For gaming and videoediting its mor than enough

[tawny elk]

My work has Quadro RTX 8000's for our workstation VDs. Think there's a total of 96GB of VRAM available.

[cloud crypt]

Gimme sum🤣

[spark moon]

idid not put the rtx.config file

[vague sparrow]

AI dream machine

[tawny elk]

They only let me use 2GB for my VD.

[vague sparrow]

looks good, what did you put then?

[unborn sluice]

12gb is bare minumum these days

[cloud crypt]

Thats wrong lol

[tawny elk]

We have 3090s for ML. ||Licensing on the server ones is really really expensive||

[spark moon]

just mod.usda plus my sconfig settings from yesterday

[cloud crypt]

4k res is not standart res, 1440p is and there are more than enough videos which are showing that currently only 2 games are using more than 10GB VRam

[unborn sluice]

You have to have more than 12gb for 1440p gaming don't want to go offtopic but that's how it is.

[vague sparrow]

lol i've seen 3090's go out for 500$ used on the market, wonder if its actually usable (i cant even buy it though, financial restraints)

[tawny elk]

NFS U2 needs a 4090 to play at 1440p now

[unborn sluice]

that's true

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/mission-complete-spongebob-done-gif-11766934

[cloud crypt]

I have 4070Ti and can play smooth xD

Only need quality preset, otherwise i only have 30 fps

[unborn sluice]

I hope frame gen comes back quickly

[cloud crypt]

Yeah

[tawny elk]

Need a RTX 6000 Ada for 4k gameplay

[chrome meadow]

It should work on VS2019 too but didn't try and opted for a safe shot with VS2017
Launch Nsight Monitor with administrator privilege, start VS with admin privilege too then click on File-->Open-->Project\Solution and select the executable. Then start graphics debugging from the Nsight menu
Remember to set the TDR in the Monitor at 30s

[vague sparrow]

frame gen is a must, these games have 30Hz tick meaning frame locked animations

[jade briar]

Well, here's an issue.

All neon lights are red.

[tawny elk]

I see no issue

Oh

[jade briar]

yep

[vague sparrow]

blud powering his neons with a nuclear reactor 💀

[jade briar]

LED

[cloud crypt]

Damn, already reconfigured your rtx config again??

[vague sparrow]

oh wait why's it red though, what did you do?

[jade briar]

It's a continuous process

[jade briar]

It's always red

[cloud crypt]

I know xD

[jade briar]

Window tints also don't work

[vague sparrow]

hmm

[jade briar]

Changing the headlights dobn't do much

[cloud crypt]

Who would have thaught about this, i wonder

Headlights dont work anyway

[tawny elk]

The headlights are weird. The material is linked with the whole headlight housing.

[jade briar]

Different headlights are set up differently

[vague sparrow]

we can add a light prim inside the headlights, like PaskOK did with Mafia 1

[jade briar]

Yeah, we can

[tawny elk]

[vague sparrow]

man you guys forgot about Most Wanted

Underground still the king 👑

[cloud crypt]

Mostwanted ha its own thread

[tawny elk]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-i-dont-want-to-play-andy-woody-sad-gif-17075553

When U2 got working

[jade briar]

Exactly

[tawny elk]

Yo they got Keno and Loans? 👀

[jade briar]

yep

Reference mode is really good for clean looking screenshots.

[cloud crypt]

How you got neons working? For me they dont do anything🤣

[jade briar]

Strange

I did nothing

They just work

[vague sparrow]

looks like low quality textures

they are supposed to blend with the original unmodded game

[jade briar]

shhhh

I'm working on it

[vague sparrow]

and its sticking out like a sore thumb due to Path tracing

[jade briar]

I love it when remix does this. So quirky.

[vague sparrow]

make one for my mobile wallpaper, you're so close in doing so

[jade briar]

I'M TRYING

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/tails-soup-tails-tails-sonic-insanity-definition-of-insanity-gif-25189948

[jade briar]

Well, I can't do anything about the neons.

Anything in game.

I don't wanna deal with omniverse and it's bs.

[vague sparrow]

@jade briar wait so...how did you get it working here

[jade briar]

i

have

no

clue

[vague sparrow]

glue

[tawny elk]

Am I the only one that's going to be adding lights to the game? 👀

[jade briar]

Like through omniverse?

[tawny elk]

Yea

[jade briar]

I don't wanna deal with it

It's

Dog

shjit

[tawny elk]

Ya'll seem like you're not on good terms with OV.

[jade briar]

I'll wait for the remix specific software to release.

[cloud crypt]

If i would know how to do that i would do it but i dont know how because i dont have the knowhow

[vague sparrow]

like omniverse or adding lights?

[jade briar]

Till, then. There's plenty of lights which can be tagged through the ingame menu

[cloud crypt]

Both🤣

[jade briar]

#1108266959763685458 message

[vague sparrow]

@tawny elk #general-remix message

[jade briar]

Not my finest work

of course, dvd covers are completely fucked up in game

[vague sparrow]

boi waht the gell boi

https://tenor.com/view/boi-aint-no-way-boi-gif-22591242

[tawny elk]

Gotta wait till I go on my mental health walk to start remixing on the weekends

[jade briar]

yeah, idk why I don't get to choose my neon colours

[vague sparrow]

S K I L L. I S S U E.

[jade briar]

Clearly

[vague sparrow]

S K I L L. I S S U E.

[jade briar]

Boi what the hell

[cloud crypt]

Haha

[jade briar]

You know what? Fuck you
*fixes the issue

[cloud crypt]

But still no skill 🤣

[vague sparrow]

magic words word ig

[jade briar]

fr

[vague sparrow]

next till you get stuck i will taunt you to death with skill issue

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-get-up-sit-gif-16925742

jk

[crude whale]

hp2 is now like this. no rytrac without 2001: odyssey mode...

[vague sparrow]

the game has its own config launcher, correct?

or was its nfsIII

[crude whale]

no, hp2 has no launcher

[jade briar]

Is there a good way to get rtx on vs off comparisons?

[vague sparrow]

hmmm, fallback renderer?

This game has no save state so...not considering that

Maybe extraoptions mod

With teleport

You could save the coordinates and teleport to exact place

And then do comparisons

but for that you need two copies of the game, one with original with all settings max and other with this barely modified remix

[tawny elk]

There'll likely be a texture that if you mark as a UI texture, it'll rasterize the game.

[jade briar]

I checked. There aren't any that cover the whole screen. I can take another look tho.

[vague sparrow]

bro just make a good af comparison video and boom! People will focus on this project

be thy sparkle in thy grand scheme of things

[jade briar]

Okay so I found out that

The reason why this game is looking so good with rtx is that, it is using a lot of vertex colors for lighting.

Which kinda works hand in hand with remix, and makes the game look a lot better than others

On v off

[cloud crypt]

looks like they may have intended it for remix 🤣🤣 just kidding

[cloud crypt]

kinda looks weird

using the conf and usda shared by you bur

[vague sparrow]

Cursed light source

[jade briar]

Strange. Probably cuz you're using a different car. I've only been using one car from the start, so I haven't checked to see how well other cars work.

[cloud crypt]

I found the problem. It was a light source. But turning it off also shuts of the lighting nearly complete

[old matrix]

how did you make it work on carbon?? my game just won't open

@valid geyser Sorry to tag you (call or whatever), but could you tell me how you did it to run on carbon?

[valid geyser]

that's not remix

just regular dxvk

[old matrix]

ah, so it is not possible to put it in carbon?
(Sorry if I misunderstood)

[unborn sluice]

I think he selected the light flare texture as a light source. You have to use street lamp's own texture to fix that issue.

[jade briar]

So a few things that I've noticed that with underground 2. Apparently, when you go into car customization, and select a paint job, and apply vinyl wraps etc, the game goes ahead and bakes a car texture, and applies it to the car, so that it is compatible with the simple shader that it's using for the ff shader mode.

It causes remix's asset replacement system to get confused. When I had a simple paint job on my car with no decals on it, I went into omniverse, and changed the material properties to be glossy, like how real car paint would be. It worked just fine for most of the time, but when I customized my car, and added decals, and changed, paint color, now the car uses a different material for the same 3d model. I go into omniverse, and changed the material to be glossy again. Easy enough, right? No. Now, remix sees two different materials targeted towards the same model in mod.usda. What does it do? It picks one of the materials randomly. How do you get it to load the correct material? You go into the garage, and exit back out for the game to reload the correct texture. Now, remix knows which material to apply. This works fine for the rest of the time you're driving around in free roam, but as soon as you enter a car shop, or race, remix once again, decides to use a random material for the car.

Now you can easily fix the material after exiting the shop by just going to the garage, and then exiting, but you can't do it during a race.

So it's rng which car material you get. Sometimes you get lucky, and remix continues using the correct texture for your car.

This is also gonna be problematic during the asset replacement phase of the game. Even if remix knows what car paint you're using exactly, and is able to load the correct material for it, manually making a replacement for every single color and vinyl combination is simply gonna be impossible. There are millions of different combinations for a single car, let alone all of them.

I'd like to see how remix devs solve this problem. If they ever do.

This is my Ted talk of the day. I need to start thinking about going to bed now.

[tawny elk]

Make a github issue on it and they'll get it in the queue

I think it's to due with how the materials are based of the texture hash

So it all depends on what texture the car mesh gets first

[jade briar]

Idk how I'd word the issue in the GitHub ticket.

I'ma screenshot this rant,, and send it their way

[spark moon]

Why u bully 😂

[cloud crypt]

🤣🤣

[small acorn]

i got no luck for now with it

[vague sparrow]

its not easy but i've linked some of the tutorials through someone's else testing

[spark moon]

windows looks transparent

[vague sparrow]

looks really nice

you could edit some materials to look transparent like the windshields and headlights/taillights through mod.usda

idk how to make reflective/transparent surfaces yet

[spark moon]

that can be done only in omniverse which i dont have and my gpu will not be able to handle

[vague sparrow]

oh

maybe manual editing?

using notepad

[jade briar]

He needs to be bullied.

[vague sparrow]

out of all people that could be bullied, why him specifically?

An inside joke among fellow banters?

[jade briar]

Yeah, you could say that.

[cloud crypt]

I could cry, he bullies our work

[jade briar]

I swear this guy forgot how to use a computer

[vague sparrow]

I've never seen someone so lazy enough to say wait

ofc I could wait but I'm tryna do troubleshooting

@cloud crypt I think we need to look back at the reverse engineering website

[cloud crypt]

I think so

[tawny elk]

Oh I have the RE asi thing built if y’all want it

[vague sparrow]

what it do

[cloud crypt]

@jade briar try with hd reflection and unlimiter

Because these 2 remove some limitations of the game

[jade briar]

I'll check

[cloud crypt]

Hopefully it works

[spark moon]

well adding windows to particle texture makes it work

[cloud crypt]

What works?

Definition is missing 🤣

[spark moon]

whats this light coming from behind

[jade briar]

Probably selected the wrong texture

as light

[cloud crypt]

Turn off bloom, or wrong texture yes

[spark moon]

bloom is already off

[cloud crypt]

Hm, the same issue is with u2, if you select if light texture that is the backlight of a car this will happen

[spark moon]

got it that happens with light glow from in game settings but if we disable than vechle backlight dont seem to work

[cloud crypt]

Have you tried unlimiter and hd reflections yet?

[jade briar]

hd reflections doesn't do anything

I'll test unlimiter.

[cloud crypt]

Ok

[cloud crypt]

Looks already good though

[tawny elk]

Ya'll got an rtx.conf I could use 👀

[cloud crypt]

Uncle Burrito is pretty far. Mine isnt as far as his so...🤷‍♂️

[jade briar]

Beat me in a duel, and you can have it.

[cloud crypt]

Dont be so mean🤣

We all want it🤣

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-gif-26227918

[jade briar]

Oh...

WIP

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-theboysfinale-gif-26212533

see

we sorted this out like gentlemens

👍 ☺️

[tawny elk]

My mans running at full resolution

[cloud crypt]

4090 power🤣

[jade briar]

Fortinighty

Also unlimiter doesn't do anything either.

[cloud crypt]

Hm... what unlimiter settings

[cloud crypt]

Thats mean... i thought memory expansion could help

[jade briar]

nope

Memory expansion might help with being able to see onjects further away from the player, but what's behind the camera still gets culled

[spark moon]

ug1 or 2

[cloud crypt]

Thats so hard

[cloud crypt]

2

[spark moon]

changed few things basically same as buritos file

[tawny elk]

Tf is up with this game and adding lights to meshes

[cloud crypt]

🤣

[jade briar]

wh

[tawny elk]

No matter where I place, reference, coerce, apply voodoo, manually type them in, anything to lights added in OV.

They do not show up in game

[jade briar]

dunno

[tawny elk]

Okay

Got it

It's broken when looking at it in OV

It's way easier to do it manually than to mess with adding references in OV.

Just create your light and wrap it with the mesh reference using a text editor

[jade briar]

huh

[vague sparrow]

legit

https://tenor.com/view/travis-scott-gif-21949228

[tawny elk]

I feel exhausted by how hacky this process is

[cloud crypt]

Without ov its just pure brain damage

[vague sparrow]

Are you adding lights?

[cloud crypt]

I want to add lights, but first i watch some tutorials xD

[vague sparrow]

There are no sources lol

You're basically on your own

Omniverse and text editor is all we have 🥲

[tawny elk]

Tutorials won't save you man

[cloud crypt]

ah dont say that

[tawny elk]

I've gotten the workflow sortve figured out tho

So that's something

[cloud crypt]

looks goot though

[tawny elk]

One of the lights disappeared which I don't understand

[cloud crypt]

changes anisotropy in legacy materials to -0.550 and it got a bit more reflective

[jade briar]

Not bad. The car texture issue is huge tho.

[jade briar]

Someone willing to make a ticket on github on my behalf?

[tawny elk]

Thought you did already

[jade briar]

I said it

I don't know how to word it.

[cloud crypt]

changing the view does this.
Its culling i think

[jade briar]

I'll start with "Sorry for bad english am not native english"

[cloud crypt]

well, i aint either

[jade briar]

ok go make a ticket on github

[cloud crypt]

i am german xD

[jade briar]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-markiplier-gif-14835823

I'll ask mark to make an internal ticket

[tawny elk]

They get assigned fixes based off the github tracker, so you'll prob make his life easier just making one directly

Here's my mod.usda btw, it has some light sources added to the garage, streetlight, and the main menu.

You can rip out the over "meshes" { ... } part and put it in your own to just add the lights to your own mod.usda

[cloud crypt]

selected the rain as ui texture lol, this stupid bright light at the back of the car is gone now xD

[open atlas]

why is there no light on the car

the overhang there should have been lit no?

[tawny elk]

Cause there's no lights in the game

You gotta add them all by hand

[cloud crypt]

without xD

[open atlas]

does anyone have a fully configured rtx.conf yet?

[tawny elk]

Here is that reverse engineering asi plugin as well. Place it in your scripts folder alongside the rest of the asi mods.

[cloud crypt]

well no, i am now using the one from burrito

[open atlas]

also if you want to be able to test the lights on everything without going through the game all the way, you can set extra options to remove the locks on the areas

[cloud crypt]

we know

[tawny elk]

I'll be adding lots of lights here today. Won't be till like 3pm EST tho :/

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-omfg-oh-my-sweet-jesus-sweet-jesus-oh-my-gif-4946454

[tawny elk]

Which texture is the rain texture? I never found it

[vague sparrow]

not enough diffuse lighting

[tawny elk]

When I get through adding all the original lights this game is going to look like a Christmas tree.

[vague sparrow]

if you can replicate the feeling when i first saw Underground 1, you have my respect

i love the first game more than the second due to its atmosphere and overall 2000s street ricer gloomy aesthetics

[cloud crypt]

underground 2 was my favorite one. Grew up with fast and the Furious and this game xD

[vague sparrow]

ayyy

for some reason, i got exposed to the first game than ug2

so....yeah, ug1 for me

[cloud crypt]

best lighting settings i tried so far...

if effect lighting is set to 0.100 it looks like this

[vague sparrow]

impressive

[cloud crypt]

set to 0.500 it looks like this

[vague sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

[cloud crypt]

you will see the shadows of the stairs in the first one

[spark moon]

immisive intensity is too much

[chrome meadow]

Where do the game place the light? in rasterization often lights aren't placed "where they should"

physically speaking

[spark moon]

dont select asui

[cloud crypt]

Yeah i know, i zry to fix that

[cloud crypt]

Already de selected

Ive set it as particle

[spark moon]

particle or water...try selecting both

[small acorn]

welcome to the club)

[spark moon]

in game its blaah

[small acorn]

you can capture just a game window with alt+printscreen

[spark moon]

just dont wana show evrything else 😆

[small acorn]

and you won't)

[tawny elk]

Lemme cook a little longer. Had to go out to scavenge for food.

[jade briar]

idk why y'alls game look so strange.

[cloud crypt]

i only use your rtx.conf

[jade briar]

strange

[cloud crypt]

looks the same

[cloud crypt]

apply this and change emissive to a lower alue and it will look better

[spark moon]

almost had the same setting but when in deselect direct lighting damm looks sweet

[small acorn]

there are dozen directlight instances, thats why it looks too overbright, so i disable directlights too

[cloud crypt]

ah ok, thats why some shadows are missing

ive never realised that on the left poster a tuned nsx is shown

[spark moon]

i tried then in game dosent look that good orma be because of low res textures too

[cloud crypt]

yeah, we have to figure out how to implement PBRs

atleast the roads

[spark moon]

for that have you selected the shutters as add light to textures...

disabling direct lighting also disables those street lights

[small acorn]

need albedo map, normal map, roughness map and metallic map

[small acorn]

not always

yay, custom lights working for me!

[spark moon]

lol went on mars

[jade briar]

I've done it.

It's not the most intuitive process

[jade briar]

Need for gloss

[cloud crypt]

yeah xD

[jade briar]

This better not be a virus

[cloud crypt]

its not lol

[jade briar]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-serious-stare-suspicious-gif-5319823

[cloud crypt]

i can convert them into .dds format if needed

[jade briar]

I have ntt

[cloud crypt]

ntt?

[vague sparrow]

2 Wax 2 Slick

[jade briar]

thank you for uploading it to mediafire.

[cloud crypt]

ah damn, could upload them to google drive if you want

[vague sparrow]

lol

bro got back in 2006

[jade briar]

you better.

[vague sparrow]

how big is file

[jade briar]

like 128 megs

184

[vague sparrow]

(i was expecting a your mom joke but ok)

[jade briar]

It's measly compared to ur mom, so there's no point in even saying that.

[vague sparrow]

yeah 128 megs

sheesh

https://tenor.com/view/bloodcartier-gif-25896845

[cloud crypt]

then wait pls

[vague sparrow]

looks like Mark will not summon here

i made this chat worse

[jade briar]

This thread is not for the faint of heart

[cloud crypt]

its uploading

[vague sparrow]

you guys changed textures for showroom?

like PBR and such

[small acorn]

i have roughness and normal maps generated

in garage)

[vague sparrow]

oh

where is it

[jade briar]

I changed em for the main menu background.

[small acorn]

here

[vague sparrow]

the paints looks a bit off but eh, we still haven't properly configured material yets

looks really good

👍

[cloud crypt]

Road Textures 4K PNG and DDS
All done by myself for my NFS U2 Tokyo Nights mod and literally took me days to make

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NhzyfTSOAAqa_y0vrKJ-329xA3wKgW_J/view?usp=sharing

[jade briar]

#1103377328530276403 message

[spark moon]

any1 tries this https://nfsmods.xyz/mod/896

[jade briar]

Textures look meh

[cloud crypt]

which?

[jade briar]

The HD texture pack.

[cloud crypt]

ah ok xD

[vague sparrow]

EXP thought it was his textures

💀

[cloud crypt]

yes XD

i dont think they look bad though xD

[dreamy ether]

@jade briar Do you have access to the main game files?

[jade briar]

the huh

[dreamy ether]

The game files

you may be able to change the object culling there

[jade briar]

I.... have the game

[cloud crypt]

probably is to find in global files. Thats where the most configuration is. But i dont know how to edit them rather than with binary. But if i do that we cant add cars or anything else anymore

[dreamy ether]

why not?

[cloud crypt]

using an old binary version will corrupt the global file for newer versions

[dreamy ether]

huh ok

[cloud crypt]

has smth to do with the code i think. I could try in new version (2.8 i think) to find the culling system

[dreamy ether]

yeah, try that. There should be a way to change the system's value

provided you have access to the game files

[cloud crypt]

of course i have lol, everyone who has the game has acces lol

[dreamy ether]

true lol. I just meant some game devs encrypt the files or put them in their own file types

[cloud crypt]

so many things i could edit

[dreamy ether]

wow-

That is alot of stuff

[cloud crypt]

its even more if you see the scroll thing...

lol

[dreamy ether]

noice

and you can't edit a single file?

without corrupting everything?

[cloud crypt]

i am currently searching for the culling system

[tawny elk]

It’ll be with the camera most likely.

[spark moon]

nvm

[dreamy ether]

true

[tawny elk]

It also might be in the exe itself

[cloud crypt]

i can change the render order of textures itself, maybe i find it soon

[tawny elk]

Culling will happen before it gets to textures in order to save performance

[cloud crypt]

nope, cant find anything with binary. No camera can be found

[tawny elk]

Might be worth seeing what that extra options plug-in does for the debug camera. Should point to the direction of the camera system.

[cloud crypt]

with debug cam you only can move around

is there a way to edit the .exe in visual studio?

only got this

and if i open smth of this i only get binary :/

[tawny elk]

Oh you sweet summer child…

You gotta get ghidra or ida going and reverse engineer. Or use cheat engine and find the memory address.

[cloud crypt]

damn

[tawny elk]

I can take a look for it y’all want

[jade briar]

You don't want

[cloud crypt]

pls, we all profit from it

[trail quail]

has anyone investigated the chaos mod for nfs ug2?

because it has this option:

[cloud crypt]

ahm ok, thats new to me xD

[jade briar]

oooh

[jade briar]

Where do I get this?

[trail quail]

do u want me to dm u or can i paste in here?

[jade briar]

Put it in here3

[trail quail]

https://zolika1351.pages.dev/games/nfsu2

[cloud crypt]

yeah good luck with that...

[dreamy ether]

memory stuff

[dreamy ether]

How is the memory looking going?

lol

[jade briar]

So do I just put it in the scripts folder?

Instantly crashes the game

[cloud crypt]

found smth like proc near and no return, but i do not think it has smth to do with culling :/

[dreamy ether]

object culling?

[trail quail]

i only have zmenuu2.asi and .ini in scripts, rest from what i can see i have in the game directory

[jade briar]

hmm

[cloud crypt]

dont know, i dont want to change anything there, its just so many numbers xD

[dreamy ether]

memory stuff?

[cloud crypt]

ive opened the game.exe in ida, so yes i think so

[dreamy ether]

there is probaly someone who knows how to edit memory

in this case @tawny elk seems like that he may know how

[tawny elk]

I just got home

[dreamy ether]

Lol

Now we are all forcing you to get on the computer so you can do memory stuff

https://tenor.com/view/bread-boys-breadboys-shotgun-jerusalem-gif-18656496

[jade briar]

So I clearly must have fucked up my game.

It crashes 5 frames in.

Like before.

[dreamy ether]

have fun fixing it

lol

I don't even have the game

[jade briar]

Reinstalled and everything.

[dreamy ether]

still crashes?

[jade briar]

Why are you here.

yeah

[dreamy ether]

to help

[dreamy ether]

oof

did you edit any of the memory?

[jade briar]

nope.

[dreamy ether]

edit any files?

[spark moon]

chaos mod irl happenning in buritos life

just remove all the chaos files

[cloud crypt]

no problem at all

[jade briar]

Did nothing. Installed chaos mod. It crashed. Thought I'd reinstall the game, because I had a bunch of other mods installed. Different type of crash.

[dreamy ether]

a mod is probaly creating the crashes

[jade briar]

I reinstalled tho.

[dreamy ether]

my best idea is to find the mod folder whenit's uninstalled

and delete it by hand

[dreamy ether]

uninstalling doesn't always fix everything

[cloud crypt]

still culling issue

[dreamy ether]

some games keep certain files around to help with configuration

[dreamy ether]

Try this mod
https://nfsmods.xyz/mod/3363

[jade briar]

yeah, but installing chaos mod caused the game to crash when loading into menu. After reinstall, the game crashes instantly after showing up.

[jade briar]

Doesn't work.

[cloud crypt]

doesnt do anything

[dreamy ether]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jade briar]

Pretty sure, the reflection probe capture process is completely separate from the main game render.

[dreamy ether]

delete the mod folder

the place where the game keeps the mods while it's uninstalled

[jade briar]

THERE IS NONE

[dreamy ether]

then where did you install the mods?

[jade briar]

I reinstalled the game

The mods folder was in the game folder.

[dreamy ether]

did the game folder delete upon uninstall?

[jade briar]

I deleted it manually.

[dreamy ether]

huh, ok

did you restart your computer?

[jade briar]

Nope.

I can try that.

Okay, so I've figured out that widescreenfix is causing the issue.

why tho

[jade briar]

Ah. The tech tip as old as the computer. "did you turn it off and on again?"

[spark moon]

widescreen is not the isssue...make sure edited d3d9 to .asi

[vague sparrow]

High IQ chat

[jade briar]

Restarting my computer fixed it.

[spark moon]

noice

[vague sparrow]

Epic

This trainer rules above all

Glad it has world culling, but we need object anti culling

[dreamy ether]

hehehehe

sometimes the simple tech tips fix the most complex issues

https://tenor.com/view/ltt-linus-linus-tehc-linus-tech-tips-poggersepic-gif-23430099

[jade briar]

Linus nip slips

[dreamy ether]

Linus Drop tips

[cloud crypt]

still the menu does not fix our culling problem

[dreamy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-linus-drop-linustechtips-linusdroptips-drop-gif-24524203

[jade briar]

Nope.

[spark moon]

how is your back light working ?

[cloud crypt]

only sometimes, but sometimes it does not work either

[jade briar]

Oh good question.

[vague sparrow]

Brother asked a very good question

[jade briar]

Hey, big fov means culling happens late.

[vague sparrow]

Huh

[dreamy ether]

bro is going into hyperspace

[vague sparrow]

bro there's a lot of ghosting happening with the car

Neon is streaking due to low spp of path tracing

[dreamy ether]

TIME TO MAKE THE JUMP TO LIGHTSPEED

[cloud crypt]

how to play like this
this isnt playable at all

[vague sparrow]

Space Odyssey 2001

[spark moon]

once i disable light glow it never works

[dreamy ether]

yes

[cloud crypt]

well, i only turned off 1 texture i added lights to

[jade briar]

Ah yes.

That makes sense.

[spark moon]

which one can u show ?

[spark moon]

that also gives us a big bacground light

[cloud crypt]

one of these

the blue marked one gives us the big backlight glow

its the lensflare that is used for light everywhere

[spark moon]

leme check

so ur light glow is on

[cloud crypt]

yes

[cloud crypt]

already checked the textures from me?

[spark moon]

u are right now my brake light and headlamps both working

[jade briar]

I don't use the glow options. Causes issue.

[small acorn]

yeee, made one headlight

[late sable]

You are doing awesome work guys

[jade briar]

Just found out you can play underground with wasd

[vague sparrow]

Bro I dominated nfs games on keyboard

No need anal og

👼

[jade briar]

you huh

[dreamy ether]

I use a mix of keyboard and controller

[jade briar]

I guess like how I asked the other nfs modder if he's able to disable culling, and he said no, I should ask the creater of this chaos mod for assistance.

[dreamy ether]

Controller is better though

[vague sparrow]

ok.

[spark moon]

completed most wanted black edition 7 to 8 times on kbm

[vague sparrow]

@trail quail

[trail quail]

ok.

[vague sparrow]

ok.

[dreamy ether]

Ok.

[spark moon]

HD Refelection mod sucks for remix

[cloud crypt]

yikez

[dreamy ether]

Oof lol

[spark moon]

u have dirty mind

[jade briar]

wheel is best

[dreamy ether]

What?

[vague sparrow]

u have dirty mind

[dreamy ether]

How is that me having a dirty mind?

[jade briar]

thx

[dreamy ether]

You have a dirty mind for thinking that’s dirty

[vague sparrow]

aha I think he misunderstood

[jade briar]

Take a bath.

[vague sparrow]

please don't be rude

[cloud crypt]

guys chill xD

[spark moon]

lol ok we both have dirty mind

[jade briar]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-thats-it-gonna-cry-tobey-maguire-are-you-going-to-cry-gif-17698704

ok.

[vague sparrow]

ok.

[jade briar]

This is the most unhinged chat in this server.

[vague sparrow]

@trail quail

[spark moon]

can we focus on the game now

[jade briar]

ok.

[vague sparrow]

Truly it is

ok.

[jade briar]

fr

[cloud crypt]

can you read minds?

[jade briar]

I've just about given up for now.

My last attempt is asking the maker of the chaos mod to see if he's able to do something about it.

Let

s

[spark moon]

may be , mabye not

[jade briar]

see what he says.

[vague sparrow]

Contact them on forums, they are most active there

[jade briar]

The guy only has his discord and patreon linked on the websi.te

Seems to be fairly active.

[vague sparrow]

hmm

[vague sparrow]

we wait ig

[jade briar]

ok.

[vague sparrow]

just the person needed for this "unhinged" chat

[jade briar]

fr

[vague sparrow]

@trail quail don't post skinned frog or I swear faw da god 💀💀💀

[trail quail]

Damn

[jade briar]

e621 content.

[small acorn]

looks pretty

[jade briar]

Pretty basic

jk, it looks cool.

[vague sparrow]

Why's it looking like blackout

🤔

Bay view no electricity

[small acorn]

there is no other light instances)

except skybox texture

[vague sparrow]

oh

[jade briar]

Bay view Karachi iykyk.

[vague sparrow]

I'm from there

LoL

[cloud crypt]

and how you got the front lights glowing?

[small acorn]

and when you enable game's direct lighting

[small acorn]

spherelights inherited from the headlight meshes

[cloud crypt]

Ok

[jade briar]

Everyday I wake up, I Thank god that I'm not from there.

[small acorn]

for example:

`over "mesh_AB3DF4562D50E907"
{
token visibility = "inherited"

        custom int preserveOriginalDrawCall = 1
        def SphereLight "hl_r" (
            prepend apiSchemas = ["ShapingAPI"]
        )
        {
            float diffuse = 1.5
            float exposure = 1.1000001
            float intensity = 6000
            bool normalize = 1
            float radius = 0.05
            float shaping:cone:angle = 30
            float shaping:cone:softness
            float shaping:focus = 45
            color3f shaping:focusTint
            asset shaping:ies:file = @../../captures/textures/3AE7EBB76DD188A9.dds@
            bool shaping:ies:normalize = 1
            float specular = 2.2
            bool visibleInPrimaryRay = 1
            double3 xformOp:rotateXYZ = (90, 0, 270)
            double3 xformOp:scale = (1, 1, 1)
            double3 xformOp:translate = (2, 0.55, 0.45)
            uniform token[] xformOpOrder = ["xformOp:translate", "xformOp:rotateXYZ", "xformOp:scale"]
        }
        over "mesh"
        {
        }
    }`

translate positions are finetuned ingame

[vague sparrow]

Will it work for any car?

[small acorn]

don't think so, but wil look for

[small acorn]

well, if we store the mesh hashes for every car - yes)

[cloud crypt]

I have the feeling that ug2 will look like this cars thing when finished🤣🤣

[jade briar]

I'm gonna look for some wet road textures.

[cloud crypt]

why you need wet textures

[small acorn]

just use rougness map

[vague sparrow]

Because

[small acorn]

oh, albedo

yes

[cloud crypt]

you can edit roughness and anything else in remix menu. It will make the roads wet

[jade briar]

I know. I'm looking for a good pbr texture.

[vague sparrow]

||ask AI texture generator to make road pavement textures for you||

[jade briar]

nahh

[vague sparrow]

why not my good man

[dreamy ether]

just make them in Blender

you can do it using nodes

[jade briar]

I kinda wanna not.

[dreamy ether]

it's not that hard though-

plus there's tutorials

certainly beats searching for a certain type of texture

[jade briar]

I know my way around nodes. It's just that I'm lazy. That's it.

[dreamy ether]

plus if you do it with nodes, you can adjust the wetness and puddles to something you like

[dreamy ether]

oof

[jade briar]

I like this one.

[dreamy ether]

is it downloadable?

I have a feeling looking it up online would be harder than just doing it

up to you though ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jade briar]

fuck

Aight hold on.

Lemme whip out my nodes then.

[dreamy ether]

Lol

[jade briar]

anyone got 3ds max?

[dreamy ether]

nope

just use Blender

much easier

[jade briar]

I'll start this as a a base. Then edit the texture.

[dreamy ether]

noice

ok

[jade briar]

Does remix do displacement/bump maps?

[dreamy ether]

0 idea

never tried Remix

as in

I've never gotten it to work

[dreamy ether]

so I haven't tested

[dreamy ether]

https://tenor.com/view/shotgun-bread-boys-gif-22775719

[jade briar]

Wait.

How do I make my noise texture tileable tho.

I didn't even think about that

shit.

[small acorn]

offset it then blend seams

then again offset it and blend seams

[jade briar]

huh

[cloud crypt]

this is with my textures without any fancy pbr stuff (imported with texmod for testing purpose only)

[jade briar]

cool

[jade briar]

Help me out, brother.

[small acorn]

?

[jade briar]

So How do I make my noise texture to be tilable?

[dreamy ether]

https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/135437/how-to-make-tileable-procedural-noise-texture

The answer lies within the post

[jade briar]

I was reading this.

[dreamy ether]

ah-

[jade briar]

This is what I have so far.

[dreamy ether]

Here's some tutorials that may help with the water and procedural texture tiling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3PlAguibRc&t=8s

[jade briar]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[spark moon]

chicken men

[jade briar]

Geo nodes

[dreamy ether]

also wet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oojlF0m8KSE

Blender Guru for life

[jade briar]

I know how to make puddles.

[dreamy ether]

you got this

[dreamy ether]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Who said you can't get better

It's not like I'm saying you can't

[jade briar]

Made this a long time ago.

[dreamy ether]

very cool

[jade briar]

Most of this tutorial is just him coping at the fact that there's no principled bsdf yet.

The rest is simpler than mine.

[dreamy ether]

What? It's a good tutorial

[cloud crypt]

wake me up when you have it done

[jade briar]

what

[cloud crypt]

your pbr road

[jade briar]

ah

yes

I'm working on it0.

ahahahahaha

[cloud crypt]

looks strange

[jade briar]

nuh uh

[dreamy ether]

noice

[dreamy ether]

now you need to find out how you will make the game only apply the texture when the road is wet without any programming

[jade briar]

The road in the game is always wet.

Ez and authentic.

[cloud crypt]

would make sence if you enable always raining in extra options

you probably also be able to make your oqn hdri sky to use it in rtx remix

[trail quail]

I am bacc.

[jade briar]

true

[timid prairie]

RTX On vs RTX Off

[jade briar]

rrrrrriiiiiiiiight

[cloud crypt]

rrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigt

[jade briar]

🥲

[cloud crypt]

Ouch

Hows it looking yet?

[jade briar]

There's gonna be a whole lot more of these

[jade briar]

Not bad, so far.

The huge mess of nodes is from me adding procedural road markings to the texture.

[dreamy ether]

Is this just to make the road wet?

[cloud crypt]

Arent that way to many puddles?

[dreamy ether]

they can be adjusted

[jade briar]

The separate setup on the top is for lines, since every type of road tuxture has road markings baked in.

[jade briar]

I'll tweak it later.

[dreamy ether]

jeez, nice job

so you made a procedural road marking system?

[jade briar]

Basically remaking this.

[jade briar]

Making

[dreamy ether]

huh

cool

you know you could get a tileable texture of a road in 4K online

and you wouldn't have had to do all this

Great job though

[jade briar]

Yeah, but it's not gonna be exactly compatible with this

Textures need to be exactly like the original, or you could have issues

[cloud crypt]

Nah, hell nah, not the of ones

[jade briar]

This you?

#1103377328530276403 message

[dreamy ether]

me: Takes a full road texture and splits it in half

[dreamy ether]

yes?

I just meant the puddles and stuff though

I didn't mean making an entire road from scratch lol

[jade briar]

It has to be done this way. There's no other option.

[dreamy ether]

cool

[dreamy ether]

I wish you the best of luck

in your quest to create an entire road PBR texture from scratch

[cloud crypt]

My roads looking cooler than the og, but making them pbr is kinda hard XD

[dreamy ether]

lol yes

[dreamy ether]

only suggestion I would say is to make the road darker and to have less puddles

apart from that it looks great!

[cloud crypt]

Yeah, so it really does look like asphalt and not like concrete

[dreamy ether]

ye

[jade briar]

Here's what it looks with less puddles, and the texture color looks fine at a night time hdri.

[dreamy ether]

Doesn't the game have a day though?

[jade briar]

no

[dreamy ether]

ah

ok

[cloud crypt]

Well yes, its to bright ingame

Und the does not have a hdri sky

[dreamy ether]

It depends on the road you want

if you want a well maintained road

then dark asphalt would be better

if you want an old and beat up road

then the light grey would work

or you can have a lighter black for your typical roadway

[dreamy ether]

also if you want to be really fancy

you can add dark strips on either lane to signify the damage of other cars driving on the road

[jade briar]

I want it to be as close to the original, so beat up would look better.

[dreamy ether]

small detail, but it's a cool one that people would notice

[jade briar]

hmm

[dreamy ether]

noice ok

you can also add random cracks using Quixel

they only cost like a dollar

that would also help sell the degraded look

[jade briar]

That dark comes from increased roughness in the middle where not a lot of cars drive, which wouldn't be visible on the wet road anyways.

[dreamy ether]

It is, sorta

[jade briar]

The problem with adding specific details is that it'd be easily repeat over and over as you drive.

[dreamy ether]

true-

too bad you can't do procedural texturing in Remix

or can't paint on the details in Remix

[jade briar]

https://youtu.be/K5Uo5OPdo9w?t=2863

Look what the original looks like

[dreamy ether]

holy wet

lol

You could use this texture for the lines on either side.

[jade briar]

I'm going to go to bed now. I'm very tired, and this node setup isn't nearly complete.

[dreamy ether]

ight ok

[dreamy ether]

Holy-

Jeez

[jade briar]

[dreamy ether]

You know you could just use a road marker texture

and do that instead of all this fancy crap with drawing lines

but wow

lol

[dreamy ether]

what time is it for you?

[dreamy ether]

I gotta applaud your dedication though

[jade briar]

3:22 am

[dreamy ether]

Go to bed-

lol

[trail quail]

have a good monday morning lol

[dreamy ether]

oof

[dreamy ether]

your going to die tomorrow

[jade briar]

Ugh

[dreamy ether]

Enjoy 7 hours of sleep or less

lol

[jade briar]

You told me to use nodes, now I'm gonna. Can't stop me.

[dreamy ether]

lmao

[jade briar]

5. I have to get up by 8.

[dreamy ether]

I didn't think you would go this far into it

[jade briar]

Watch me.

[dreamy ether]

WoOOOO

[dreamy ether]

Have fun

more suffering the better

[dreamy ether]

POV: You forget to save before Blender crashes

https://tenor.com/view/mugman-the-cuphead-show-mugman-angry-disbelief-denial-gif-26546058

[jade briar]

That's why I have auto save set to ever 2 minutes.

[dreamy ether]

Lol

I haven't done that yet

I have it for 15

though sometimes I wish it was sooner

[jade briar]

Apparently trying to import a usd from a scene capture freezes blender permanently

[dreamy ether]

are you using the Nvidia Tool?

For USD importing

[dreamy ether]

also pro texturing tip