Call of Duty 2

[dull oar]

Oh yea

Omg just realised it works lol

Thank you so much for giving this a go xoxor

I haven't turned on the server yet but we can play online whenever we like as well.

[granite forge]

13 fps on 1080p dlss quality

on a 3080 😄

[dull oar]

Oh no, that's todays job then

[granite forge]

mh ultra performance only gets me up to 17fps

weird

[dull oar]

Ignore the grass and plants

[granite forge]

aaaa

with Render alpha tested off

performance is better but can no longer see the fps counter :p

[dull oar]

yea turning alpha off does that

[granite forge]

yea I triggered the corruption .. even with it back on now

[dull oar]

yea you have to close it once that starts

you'll need to turn on frame gen to play it really

[granite forge]

well I would if I could

30 series cant

[dull oar]

oh no way

right lets try to optomise this thing and get us atleast 30fps

[granite forge]

you should really do /unbind x

so it does not open the game menu whenever you open the remix settings 😄

[dull oar]

omg thats a thing!

i hate that

[granite forge]

Is the fallback light (distant) supposed to be enabled?

[dull oar]

no thats should be off

is that making a difference?

[granite forge]

cant really tell but it definitely has some minimal contribution. Just mentioning stuff I come across

[dull oar]

Yea nice one, any thing would help

[granite forge]

weird that dlss quality settings dont really make a difference which means it's cpu or bandwidth bound?

[dull oar]

yea turn off enhanced meshes

kim found this one

[granite forge]

yea I get 40 instead of 15 that way

[dull oar]

and I have no idea why. think i need to turn off each replacement and find the issue but its all fine from what i can see

does dlss modes affect frame rates after you turn off meshes?

[granite forge]

yea can get up to 60 with ultra perf - 23 with quality

which in itself is already a little .. low

but you are also always rendering the entire map right

[dull oar]

Yea no culling

Does remix cull?

[granite forge]

uhm no .. enabling the view distance cutoff only helps little as well

using ReSTIR instead of NRC improved fps by 4-5

[dull oar]

Oh sick!

What if you change terrain to baked terrain?

[granite forge]

also found that you can "fix" the corruption in-game without relaunching it

[dull oar]

How?

[granite forge]

if you drag sky min z to 0 once

[dull oar]

Lol ok

That's so random

[granite forge]

well it clears the scene basically

[granite forge]

no difference in performance but looks worse

[dull oar]

i've just removed all textures and it made no difference

from the game files so before they get loaded in game

[glass marlin]

@dull oar do you think the low frames are a result of not enough mesh optimization with the enhanced meshes?

[dull oar]

What like polycounts too high?

[glass marlin]

Ya maybe

Is there any way to view the topology of ur meshes?

[dull oar]

Yea in the debug menu

[glass marlin]

Mmmmmm banban https://youtu.be/LxpXihAVVwc

Does it look anything like this?

[dull oar]

Remix doesn't really care about polycounts from my previous experiments

[glass marlin]

Really?

Asking since u mentioned disabling enhanced meshes increased fps by a bunch

[dull oar]

Yea good shout though

Turning off all plants, trees and background trees makes no difference either

I think it's isolated to the layer building.usda

[granite forge]

side note: still getting corruptions after some time without playing with the settings

[dull oar]

Yea your running low on memory and it's stopped caching omm

[granite forge]

at 66% vram usage

[dull oar]

shit, one thing at a time though

[granite forge]

disabling "Enable Binding" made a difference tho (same as disabling OMM's altogether)

[dull oar]

what did it do?

[granite forge]

got me from 14 to 19 fps

I do think that 40 series is the minimum requirement for this project as 30 series is not optimized for OMM's

[dull oar]

I'm getting around 100 on my 5080

But it's 4x frame gen

[granite forge]

tho, I thought you modeled the leafs and such?

[dull oar]

Yea I did

The old game uses alpha on the terrain

Going to see if I can reduce the polycounts in the omm. It's confusing though

[glass marlin]

I wonder what’s causing those polygon explosions

[glass marlin]

This can’t be of any fault with tadpole right?

[dull oar]

no something up with remix, its a bug

all i've done is turned off culling and chucked art at it

you need to keep binding on for omm otherwise it explodes

[granite forge]

I dont think OMM is required at all for your mod

if you dont have any alpha cutout textures or alpha tested foliage

[dull oar]

it explodes if its off dont have it on

the terrain uses alpha

[granite forge]

mhh dont think that matters really

[dull oar]

i have loads of cutout alpha textures though

[granite forge]

but yea gettjng some corruptions that way. Its kinda weird that the scene "resets" for a few frames when I alt tab out of the game (I use windowed mode)

that normally only happens if sky reprojection is on or if there is a second camera

[dull oar]

fullscreen gets you better perf as well but cod2 fullscreen shit crap

[granite forge]

I really cant run this game full screen because I'm on a 32:9 monitor

5120x1440

[dull oar]

oh we're running this on the star ship enterprise

[granite forge]

weird that r_drawDecals 0 does not fix the terrain corruption

[dull oar]

i have set some decals in models

but turning off alpha test and alpha blend in remix should get rid of them all

but it corrupts worse than ever

hey could you try this rtx.config?

and turn off alpha blended

after you're in the game and all set up

otherwise you loose the menu 😛

[granite forge]

corruptions from hell

performance is a little better tho

[dull oar]

oh man mines fine

[granite forge]

I have a fix - 75 fps when i use r_drawWorld 0 😂

[dull oar]

Oh well there we go

[granite forge]

sorry that was sarcasm (it disables all drawing besides the viewmodel and some entities)

[dull oar]

Lol yea I knew, mine was sarcasm as well

[granite forge]

r_drawEntities 0 stops corruption tho

[dull oar]

oh thats interesting

fx_draw doesnt do anything, i was sure that would help

need render test to break down the frame

we're just poking at random things

i got the omm to reduce its polycount from 4 to 2 million so that might help

[dull oar]

I got no idea what to do to do at this point. I don't know what the issue is

[glass marlin]

@dull oar it has to be some engine based thing right? any dlss preset i choose is the exact same its so weird

but wait it runs very well without enhanced assets?

[slate plank]

Do you see same speedup for indoor and outdoor scenes switching from ReSTIR GI to NRC? What graphics and NRC Quality preset are you using? What's your base FPS for 5 FPS improvement? Are you using latest runtime or v1.0?

I suggest trying NRC Medium preset with latest runtime and see how that compares for both indoor and outdoor scenes.

[glass marlin]

uhhhhh

and the webley seems to be the exact same as retail compared to what u showed a few months back

[dull oar]

Incorrectly tagged texture does that to the UI. I can fix it. The only weapon I upgraded and included is the enfield

[dull oar]

Yep will do cheers Peter. I'm on ultra preset for NRC so that's no good. I'kk keep you posted. Any more tips would be massively appreciated

[glass marlin]

Ah ok, any reason why u didn’t also include the updated human models and pistol?

[dull oar]

Copy right issues. I ran out of time to replace it with a new custom mesh

[glass marlin]

Ahhhhh ok

[dull oar]

I have a half finished kar98 as well

[glass marlin]

U don’t have the rights to em or smth?

[dull oar]

Yea I brought the body online so I can't share it

I have a replacement ready to go but haven't done it yet

[glass marlin]

That’s weird tho, by that logic any other game using that body would also be “sharing it”

[dull oar]

Yep. But the open USD format means you get source quality art with a share

[glass marlin]

Which ig the license for the thing u bought doesn’t like?

[radiant cradle]

My Steam Deck:

[granite forge]

This project has some issues especially with OMM building (at least on 3000 series cards) for me where it never really completes building them and switching from NRC to ReSTIR either stopped the OMM build process or it finished exactly when I switched to ReSTIR. Can't really reproduce the 5fps improvement I had earlier.
NRC was on ultra and there is now almost no difference in performance between the two now

[slate plank]

There's no direct relation between NRC/ReSTIR GI and OMM. Theoretically, if one of the two changes amount of available VRAM, then OMM system can increase/decrease its budget or even get disabled if amount of free VRAM becomes too low, so possibly, but yes OMM actively building does have a bit of overhead but it should be within few % of frame time.

[dull oar]

Think someone could take a look at Nvidia? Something is up here

Dlss presets make no difference

Removing all textures, removing all layers makes very little difference as well

https://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-duty-2-rtx-remix-of-carentan

[slate plank]

I think NRC Medium should be your best bang for the buck in CoD2 Carentan since you have mostly diffuse surfaces and you probably can get away with less responsiveness and more coarse detail in indirect lighting

[dull oar]

it didnt make any difference, I think i'm being bottlenecked by something massive

4k, ultra perf, no frame gen I'm getting 22 fps

[slate plank]

What GPU are you on?

[dull oar]

which i thought was normal for remix 😛

5080

[slate plank]

Yeah that's on the low side. What if you disable the grass replacement?

[dull oar]

if i disable ALL enhancements I only go as high as 60 at 4k ultra perf

i have most of my enhancements on these 4 layers in my mod.usda. changing the name to treesx.usda turns them off so you can isolate the meshes

they barely make any difference to fps, 10 maybe

keep building.usda so your map doesnt get any holes

[radiant cradle]

It’s like Half-Life 2 RTX all over again

[dull oar]

whats perf like for that?

[radiant cradle]

When I was testing on my RX 7600 with assets, it would start dipping to single digits, but without them, solid 60 iirc
It wasn’t a VRAM issue either, just really hated the assets, foliage in particular

[granite forge]

hl2 wasn't as bad as this on day 1

[radiant cradle]

It wasn’t also great, even my RTX 5060 Ti struggled in HL2 RTX a lot that FG might be a must

[dull oar]

just uploading a video highlighting the issues so we got a good understanding of where we're at

frame gen here is a must as well

you can get 100fps with frame gen

i recorded the video at 100fps

played multiple rounds without it running out of memory and crashing as well

I think whats happened is i have a stray setting turned on, something that should be off

but without any debugging tools i'm working blind

i'm hoping someone at nvidia could help find the issue so i can fix it

[radiant cradle]

Guess I’m gaming at 30fps because of my monitor

AMD users are also gonna struggle

[slate plank]

I think you should be able to expect ~40 FPS at 1080p w/o DLSS or that's 4K DLSS performance on 5080 w/o Frame Gen. If you are far off then yes there's some unexpected bottleneck.

[dull oar]

is this normal then? if its normal thats fine i just dont wanna have screwed up somewhere
https://youtu.be/29fPLljOoPE

[slate plank]

Grass was a pain point in HL2RTX so that's why I asked. Also when you guys say it's 10 FPS difference, it's better to say 10 FPS from what. 20->30 or 90->100, otherwise it's hard to gauge how much of a diff you are talking about

[dull oar]

i'll get you a proper number one second

check that video out though when you get a second please

[slate plank]

The perf overlay reports a very low GPU util which is a problem considering it's measuring the utilization properly and since you see such a low perf w/o much FPS diff when switching NRC or other things then that seems correct. You want to be GPU bottlenecked (98%+).

[dull oar]

so cpu? too many objects perhaps?

[slate plank]

Yeah likely.

[dull oar]

what would you suggest? I could combine all the little meshes into one big mesh and export each building like that

[slate plank]

@static tangle has looked at object draw call bottlenecks so pinging him here. CoD2 is at 40% GPU util and very low FPS

[glass marlin]

My 4060 ti wasn’t that bad without framegen with hl2 rtx tho?

What settings did u run at?

[dull oar]

just uploading a video with the grass on and off

be five minutes

[radiant cradle]

Ultra like I do with all Remix games
That usually allows for 1080p DLSS Balanced 60fps
But in HL2 RTX I had to drop DLSS to Performance and it would drop to 40fps at times

[dull oar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4V6Jl0I37Y

i can get 30 fps at 4k ultra perf with plants off. thats pretty good going. anyone wanna give this config a go?

[slate plank]

Do you build remix runtime locally or just download it from github?

[dull oar]

off github, near latest release

turned NRC to medium like you said peter and turned off lots of other things in the same section that might help. reduced max bounces on various thinks like rtx.psrrMaxBounces = 2 from 5, turned rtx.enableDirectTranslucentShadows to false, just anything that might help

rtx.secondaryRayMaxInteractions = 2 from 8

[slate plank]

Yeah you're going to be lowering IQ a lot for little gains that way because your primary issue is not GPU performance

[dull oar]

yea your right, what am i doing 😛

clutching at straws

[slate plank]

I'd ask you for a tracy capture that should show the bottleneck but you need a custom built remix, so I need to get an OK if I can just share a build with you first.

[dull oar]

oh thank you peter

i'm no coder though so I might not be able to use it

I sculpt rocks really well though

[slate plank]

It's easy to use. In the meantime do you have setup and repro steps for this anywhere?

[dull oar]

oh yep oooooooone second

[slate plank]

I had troubles running MP COD 2 before, so not sure if anything improved on that front

[dull oar]

loads

https://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-duty-2-rtx-remix-of-carentan/downloads/call-of-duty-2-carentan
instructions are in the description, its just a case of downloading the unofficial patch from here
https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/files/file/3158-call-of-duty-2-custom-patch-v2/
and extracting that to the root of cod2. then extracting my zip folder from here
https://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-duty-2-rtx-remix-of-carentan/downloads/call-of-duty-2-carentan
and putting that into the root folder of the game. thats all you have to do now 🙂

the unoffical patch fixes all the old windows 10 and 11 bugs you had trouble with before

[glass marlin]

Ah I usually play hl2 rtx with 1440p dlss performance around those settings with 40 fps too

Weird I thought 50 series cards were more optimized for rt

[radiant cradle]

They say that every generation

There was barely any RT gains between 40 and 50 series iirc

[glass marlin]

Still weird it seems like u had a worse experience on a newer generation

I could play 1080p balanced around those settings and be at 50-60

[radiant cradle]

Maybe it’s my CPU or PCIe

[dull oar]

hey did you manage to download and play it?

[glass marlin]

Ya I did, i tested on a 5090 and it still ran around 15 fps with everything enabled, at a res around 1080p

[dull oar]

no it didnt 😛

[glass marlin]

While disabling meshes seemed to rocket it over and around 100 fps

[dull oar]

turn on frame gen. it runs at 110fps at full res dlss preset at 1080p

are you free to try something for me?

[glass marlin]

I did, it was kinda bad on latency and the visual artifacts were horrible

[glass marlin]

What’s up?

[dull oar]

i have a new rtx config and some new meshes i'd like to see what you think

thinking i could release a full res version and a perf version

i'm getting 32 fps on ultra perf at 4k

[granite forge]

tadpole cooked too much and now its a little to crispy

[dull oar]

it may well be

i'm hoping i just need to attach the meshes together and export that

this is one of the buildings, it aint that high

oh i never shown this off, check this out

carentan 🙂 everything here i modelled from scratch over the two months working from 4pm after work til 1-2am every day taking breaks to eat

this has CONSUMED every waking hour I wasnt working

[glass marlin]

Where should I get the download?

[dull oar]

oh yep sory

[glass marlin]

Insane work

[dull oar]

this goes here
Call of Duty 2\rtx-remix\mods\project\Level_Specific\Carentan

this goes here in the root folder of call of duty 2

[glass marlin]

I’ll try later

[dull oar]

oooooooooh boo

i'll do all the buildings in that case

cheers mate

over the next few weeks i'm sharing everything i made in the art share space so people can build their own stuff with it

and sharing that trucks substance file for learning and fun 🙂 cc0

[static tangle]

that's some pretty bad frame judder when you have DLFG enabled. What graphics card are you on?

And can you enable the dxvk hud (dxvk.hud = 1 in dxvk.conf)? that helps give some basic numbers like how many instances are being drawn

[dull oar]

5080 mate

[static tangle]

latest drivers?

(just trying to get baseline info to know what you're dealing with)

[dull oar]

oh the nvidia app is updating, one sec

it only does it on windowed mode, fullscreen is fine

yea on 576.88

[static tangle]

so windowed mode pacing is broken, clearly. you're running 1440p?

[dull oar]

2160

3840x2160

[glass marlin]

Oh I don’t run on fullscreen, ima try that when I get the chance

[dull oar]

aaaaah yea fullscreen mate

ultra perf at 4k i'm now getting 35fps

if i turn off plants and stuff

[static tangle]

And what build is this? recent Action build, 1.0...?

are the plants done with pointInstancer, or just by having a bunch of meshes?

[granite forge]

#1099591203768504421 message

[static tangle]

ah, so 1.1.0 rc5.

[dull oar]

i've included 862 in the download

sorry trying to keep up 😛

so many files to check

plants are done like this with emans tool

[static tangle]

I actually added a perf optimization as of #863, tho that had crashes until #872. so if the bottleneck is coming from "here's a replacement asset with 1000 plant prims", then that may help a bit

[dull oar]

100,000 lines in that plant.usda

you can download it now mark, i'd love for you guys to get hands on

[static tangle]

😦 those aren't point instancers. not sure if that's a configuration thing or E-man just hasn't updated his tool yet.

[dull oar]

i could open the usda in max, combined it all together and export that

is it cheaper to just replace the prop of grass in game with new meshes rather than scattering my own?

[static tangle]

This is what I mean by pointInstance. When you use the paint tool directly in USD Composer, there's a dropdown to choose either instances or pointInstancer

[dull oar]

ah damn

[static tangle]

@summer brook Did you ever get pointInstancing working in your grass painting tool? or a way to convert existing grass?

[dull oar]

peter thinks its a cpu bottleneck

if you havent read up a bit

he got that from this video
https://youtu.be/29fPLljOoPE

[static tangle]

I'm curious how much perf improvement you'll get with build #872 or later (a build from Main, not from the release branch). I got rid of the most significant expense for all those grass instances, so you might see a significant improvement.

And yeah, instance count bottlenecks are definitly CPU

I watched the video, yes

having dxvk.hud on would let me see instance count, which would let me know for sure how high it is... but if you have 100,000 lines of 1 instance per 13 lines, you're almost certainly way too high

I do want to be able to support that many instances in the future, mind - but it'll take a couple months of refactoring and paying down tech debt in the draw call pipeline. In the short term, redoing the grass as a pointInstancer will get you most of that perf back

[dull oar]

right ok so first first lets get a video with dxvk.config

[static tangle]

just a screenshot when the grass is being drawn would be enough

[dull oar]

oh sick, one sec

[static tangle]

yep. you'll want that down closer to 3000, IIRC.

[dull oar]

wow ok 😛

[static tangle]

and some rough math tells me you have 7500+ grass prims

[dull oar]

what about multiple meshes inside the same usda file. like all the 3d bricks on the top o the wall?

i have 900 bricks all loose, i can combine them into 1 mesh. would that help?

[static tangle]

probably. either that or making them pointInstancers.

We had problems with this same code in the ending room on Portal (with all the personality spheres) and we solved that by making each shelf of spheres a single mesh

pointInstancer is a better solution though, since it keeps the bounding box tighter

[dull oar]

i have no idea how to do that though unfortunately

[static tangle]

well... you could convert your existing file with some mass text editing and maybe a spreadsheet, or you could repaint it in USD Composer with the proper tool settings. I believe it's possible to get E-man's tool to generate pointInstancers, but I don't remember the details

[dull oar]

this one right?

[static tangle]

If you want to go the text editing route, you need to change

{
orient: (x1, y1, z1, w1)
...
},
{
orient: (x2, y2, z2, w2)
...
}

to

{
quath[] orientations = (x1, y1, z1, w1, x2, y2, z2, w2)
...
int[] protoIndices = [0, 0]
}

[static tangle]

use the release build for best performance

btw - could you test DLFG when you're getting above 20 fps without it? (i.e. with replacements disabled). Just want to know if you still get that judder when turning when the pre-DLFG framerate is higher

[dull oar]

i'll give that a go when latest is finished downloading

[glass marlin]

why is the file gone?

[dull oar]

cause i can do better!!!!

[dull oar]

still 16fps on latest with no frame gen, still judders when enhancements are turned off

you ready to test @glass marlin ?

[static tangle]

whats your native fps with enhancements off?

[glass marlin]

yuh

[dull oar]

between 32 and 37 at 3840x2160 on balanced preset

on ultra perf at 3840x2160 its between 55 and 59 fps

[static tangle]

and DLFG is still bad?

[dull oar]

yea still bad

[glass marlin]

@dull oar how do i start the game in full screen?

[dull oar]

did you download the patch?

[glass marlin]

ya

[dull oar]

you can do that by opening "cod2patch.ini" and edit this line to a 0

";Play singleplayer and multiplayer in windowed mode
WindowedMode=0"

btw has anyone even tried changing time of day and weather with f7 and f8?

or increasing the speed of the sun with f6?

its cool as

that is all 😛

[glass marlin]

nah ill try rq

[dull oar]

right so let me get you some new files, one second

this goes here
Call of Duty 2\rtx-remix\mods\gameReadyAssets\Level_Specific\Carentan

[glass marlin]

thx

[dull oar]

oh snap i'm getting 40fps now! its the amount of meshes

[static tangle]

just from disabling the grass and merging the bricks?

[glass marlin]

@dull oar holyyyyyyyyyyyyy the game runs so much better at full screen

but nrc sadly strikes again with weird colors in indoor blank areas

[dull oar]

turned some stuff off in the rtx.config before as wel. lets me switch that back to how it was. one sec

[dull oar]

i'm sure you'll manage 😛

[dull oar]

getting around 21-25fps up from 16

with the extra reductions in the rtx.config i can get that upto 40fps on ultra perf 4k with no frame gen

with grass!

[slate plank]

Try adjusting max expected average radiance in NRC settings - by 10x or 0.1x of what it is by default. To decide which disable auto exposure in Post Processing and if the scene is super dark, lower the NRC setting, if it's super bright increase it. That should help

[dull oar]

right so with grass ultra perf at 4k i'm getting 21 - 25fps without grass 31-33fps with changes to the rtx.config 40fps

thats playable, lets tidy this up and upload version 2.1

[static tangle]

BTW - If you wind up remaking your grass, this is the important option:

[dull oar]

is that really all it was, maaaaaaaaan 😛

how long we got left on this comp?

25 hours, possible

[static tangle]

yep, I believe that's it - though I'm not sure if that's possible on early versions of E-man's tool, I've only ever used the USD Composer Brush tool that he was wrapping.

[dull oar]

booting now to take a gander

[dull oar]

its only got the option none

hows that new version feeling @glass marlin ?

[static tangle]

Is that E-man's tool or USD Composer's paintbrush tool?

[dull oar]

emans tool version of it yea

[glass marlin]

still finding a way to make the game use my custom res and HZ without dying

[dull oar]

old game aint it, you may struggle

[static tangle]

yeah, I think you may just need to use the raw paintbrush then. Just make sure it's painting the grass as a child of the mesh you want it anchored to.

[dull oar]

i'm thinking of opening it in max, combining it into chunks every 10 meters and exporting THAT out and ingesting it

i'm happy with the placement

simply combining everything in the buildings together has done wonders already

and i dont care its combined

cause i just do that before exporting to fbx

and ingesting

[static tangle]

That will significantly improve the CPU load. It'll be heavier on the GPU (and will take up more VRAM), but that's preferable to the CPU bottlenecking you get currently.

Would be a good idea to save the current form of it - once we have time to actually fix up the draw call pipeline, the current form will have better perf than the combined meshes

[glass marlin]

i tried doing it ingame but all it seemed to do was make the game use the lowest res and be a blue screen, tried changing the conf directly after reinstalling but the game just ignored it

[dull oar]

i'll keep v1 on mod db for this purpose then 🙂

[dull oar]

lowering it to 0.25 helped with the glow out as you entered rooms and the cloudy spots you get

[slate plank]

Yeah that's a per game parameter so if you find a custom value working better, use it

[summer brook]

Nope. It renders with transforms all messed up in usd composer and I never got back to debug that again. Was a big blocker to get point instance in the tool so I'm now looking forward to get it in the Toolkit instead

[dull oar]

i got it all worked out guys

lets try again tomorrow with a updated remix package 🙂

changing dlss settings affects fps as expected now as well

and we kept the grass and plants 🙂

i have one more pile of geo to combine that can bump the instance count down to under 3000 and boosts fps by a good chunk

3840x2160 at ultra perf with no frame gen is 37-40fps with all the plants where as before it was around 16-18fps

[dull oar]

would someone be up for testing my latest version? Just about to upload so maybe an hour away

@glass marlin or @granite forge maybe?

[glass marlin]

Nah I’m busy sry

[granite forge]

sure! - just ping me again when the files are ready

[dull oar]

oh mate you're a life saver 🙂 be about an hour to fiddle and upload then we can see how it goes

[dull oar]

still uploading, will be another 30 minutes

[dull oar]

dude it just finished then went back to an empty file upload page!!!!

fuck sake

its been 2 fucking hours fuck sake

[granite forge]

You could just upload the updated files as a patch if you know what you changed

so that you don't reupload all the assets

[dull oar]

would you mind if I give you the files on a google drive as a patch?

[granite forge]

(or just do that for the testing phase)

[granite forge]

no sure, go ahead!

[dull oar]

oh mate love ya

one sec

[granite forge]

because if something goes wrong, you'd have to reupload all of it all over again

[dull oar]

true, thought it would be easier than this

[dull oar]

@static tangle so i just uploaded version 2 of my mod and was giving it a test with all the reduced drawcalls and look what's working now. frame gen

Version 2 out now with HUGE performance gains. from 18fps at native 4k with version 1 bumped up to 47fps at native 4k with version 2.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-duty-2-rtx-remix-of-carentan/downloads/call-of-duty-2-carentan-v2

for the first time in 2 months i'm going to bed today and waking up tomorrow, night night all

[radiant cradle]

I’ll make sure to make a bug list when you wake up

[dull oar]

We need to schedule a match, server works and everything

[radiant cradle]

I need to buy CoD 2 still

[dull oar]

Yea you do dude, join meeeee

Though not today, I'm still dead from the conp

Server is online now and working perfectly btw

[radiant cradle]

Oh, it’s on? Hell yeah I’m buying the game then

Time to put my RTX 5060 Ti to the test

[dull oar]

No one else is online though mate. It'll be lonely

[radiant cradle]

Aren’t bots enabled?

[dull oar]

No, they can be but I don't know how

And I've been so knackered I haven't looked into it

[dull oar]

guys if you can could you please vote for call of duty 2? I'd greatly appreciate it
https://www.moddb.com/groups/rtx-remix-modding/competition

[slow shore]

oh lol u don't even need an account?

i voted for cod2 because i'm biased :p

huh

i could vote twice?

how many times can u vote

[dull oar]

Probably just removing and adding the same vote mate

[slow shore]

or it's a different category

uhmm...

it just allows me to vote for all..?

i can't undo a vote either

idk it's weird but oh well i voted for 4 entries then

[dull oar]

Damn it I'm no closer to winning than before I started

I take back the gif

[slow shore]

there's more than 4 entries

[dull oar]

How you getting in with ya new card then?

[slow shore]

and even so the other 3 are great too

[slow shore]

im not

it works on windows but i dont wanna keep dual booting just for the rtx stuff

so ill wait for nvidia to fix their drivers

[dull oar]

Bloody ell, who do you even tell about the issue?

[slow shore]

in the meantime blender works, cuda works, vulkan seems to work... outside of games strangely and OpenGL games work fine

[dull oar]

Tried your AI stuff yet?

[slow shore]

ye it works except for the windows stuff

[dull oar]

Should try that truck you started for me a while ago. You wrote down the processing time

[slow shore]

oh u mean that model gen thing?

[dull oar]

Yea was a while ago mind

[slow shore]

idk if it works it should i guess, another one does work but that one i haven't tried locally yet

even though the min reqs are met

the vram it said in the github repo

[dull oar]

#1099591203768504421 message

You had to tap out last time

[slow shore]

oh that

that wasn't local at all though

it was hunyuan

[dull oar]

Aaaah

[slow shore]

chinese one online

[radiant cradle]

Do regular servers work as well?

[dull oar]

Nope just the rtx modded one

[radiant cradle]

How come?

[dull oar]

Cause I had to mod it for stable hashes

[radiant cradle]

Ah, got it

[frigid dirge]

Hey guys anyone knows why when i click capture scene in call of duty 2 SP in the first mission it doesnt even capture anything

[floral stump]

voted for cod 2 and cod 4

good luck guys 🤞

and keep up the great work

[dull oar]

Your the best, cheers buddy

[dull oar]

call of duty 2 launch video is now on YouTube
https://youtu.be/ykc6XloqK00
don't forget to vote on moddb if you like what you see :). you could be as cool as QC above is

[floral stump]

🤜🤛

[floral stump]

You nailed it man!

[dull oar]

They like it!
https://youtu.be/I4cywtyU-II?si=rW4EHUQsa-yxTQXr&t=6m36s

"right up there with the best graphical presentations you can load up on a modern pc"

Don't forget to vote on moddb if you haven't already
https://www.moddb.com/groups/rtx-remix-modding/competition

[slow shore]

some dude in the comments said it looked too clean for an active war location

😛

also wow surprise they matched the lighting against the original like i said xd

[dull oar]

I only got so many hands to do the work!

Never did decals on interiors or vertex painting

Ah well, I can keep going can't I

[slow shore]

ye true

great job for the time available

[dull oar]

Yea it's aight ain't it

[slow shore]

ye + they matched it themselves because thats what they do

they compare graphics

ez outsourced

[dull oar]

Going to wrap this level then do that sandy boi

[slow shore]

sandy boi?

[dull oar]

Forgot the name now, it's the one with the trenches

Night map

[slow shore]

uhh El Alamein

mp_decoy

[dull oar]

Yea that's the one

I got the uniform for the British in Africa to scan as well

[slow shore]

should be easier/faster done because it's smaller and less objects/mostly terrain 🫢

did i jinx it

[dull oar]

Yea, lots of the truck I've already made

Scanning sand is a fun way to destroy a zoom lens though

[slow shore]

just dont get the sand in ur lens

its abrasive

👀

[dull oar]

gets everywhere so I hear

I wanna add some shop fronts in carentan first to break up the plain walls. Fix the empty interior's, add some more weapons

One shops going to be a chemist so loads of glass bottles to smash up

Giving the new stuff collision through spawning xmodels

[dull oar]

mp_decoy appears to work, its all stable hashes

just behind where i spawn in that video my first person stuff disapears so i need to change my pvs lock location

you can see it right at the end of the video above

[dull oar]

and i fixed it, just had to find the sweet spot 🙂

might as well do this for all maps while i'm in the mooooood

[dull oar]

where I got up to

[dull oar]

Man these comments sure wind me up. Like how dare I make something new with the old gameplay and collisions. Fuck me it's not like I'm installing the mod on everyone's pc

Blurry textures on cubes! Don't touch the cubes! The art style lives in the cubes!

I'm making something new, it won't look like the original, that already exists.

[scarlet monolith]

People have always acted self-entitled towards modders but this last generation of videogamers is very bad at grasping how much effort goes into things. Sorry you have to deal with the bullshit.

[dull oar]

It's like they see but don't look. Some prick called my work "artless" and pointing to my hay cart. That thing was rebuilt by volunteers of a local woodland near my house over years. I scanned it in over the course of two days crawling in the dirt to get every single angle. I then cut it up and stuck it into the shape of the cart in game modelling the missing parts by myself over the course of a week. And that's artless! Jesus Christ I couldn't have gone harder if I tried

"but the old hay cart was dirtier!" So fuckin what, mine ain't

https://tenor.com/view/raspberry-the-finger-british-flip-off-gif-9105417

Though honestly most are cool. It's just those odd ones stick with ya 😋 super encouraged to do more

Got a bunch of the other maps working and even documented the issues so I can fix up the ones that dont

AND I think this process will work for single player.

[scarlet monolith]

I'm not even sure what is 'artful' about the original. It's trying to do the exact same you are, but with technological constraints. If low fidelity is the art style, the original still exists. As you said.

[dull oar]

Just cubes with a burnt wood texture on them as far as I could see

[slow shore]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativity_bias

[dull oar]

colts stable, time to repo this scan i captured 🙂

looks GREEEEEAT in game already 😛 proud of this texture

[glass marlin]

YOOOOOO MY GOAT

I LOVE COLT 1911

[static tangle]

Hmm, @dull oar have you ever seen remix limited to only 486 MiB of VRAM when launching COD2? Trying to repro your crash, but I haven't been able to get the game to launch properly.

I do notice that you have a lot of stuff in your rtx.conf that probably shouldn't be in there - can't even get past the initial loading bar with it, whereas when I remove it I can at least get to the weapon select screen

[dull oar]

No I've never seen remix limited to 486mb, it's always fine. Nyle got it to run the other day

no one's had issues launching the competition entry either as far as I know

[static tangle]

I probably just messed up the instalation instructions somewhere. thanks

[dull oar]

It should be as simple as extracting the zip into the root of cod 2 folder

Does it work with only the files from the zip?

[static tangle]

I think it's due to the version of the game I installed - I don't own it on steam, so I was trying to use the test build available to nvidia. it's probably missing some updates that are in the steam build.

[dull oar]

Ah yea that might be it, I'm in 1.3

Steal nyles pc?

[static tangle]

in theory so am I. I'm just going to buy it off steam

[dull oar]

This is all you need to do to get it to work though

         Installation instructions

Purchase Call of duty 2

You will have trouble getting Call of Duty 2 to work straight away on windows 10 or 11 so I recommend this patch unofficial patch It fixes the black screen, the microphone issue as well as fixes windowed mode. Follow the instructions on the site, leave the ini file at default options

Download my mod file "Call of Duty 2 Carentan.zip" and extract it to the root folder of Call of Duty 2

Done

          Launching

The zip file came with two .bat files (they're safe, right click and edit in note to see what they do 🙂 they just set some launch variables to launch the mod) one takes you to a special server to play against other people with the mod installed called

"CoD2_RTX_OnlineMultiplayer.bat" the other is called "CoD2_RTX_SinglePlayer.bat" and loads up an empty dev map for you to run around in. I recommend you launch "CoD2_RTX_SinglePlayer.bat" first.

[static tangle]

Purchase Call of duty 2 I was trying to skip that step 😛

[dull oar]

You'll want this patch. Cod2 hates windows 10 and above
Call of Duty 2 - Custom Patch v2 - Unofficial patches - PCGamingWiki PCGW Community https://share.google/RrCrXk4ongqfcf6zs

[static tangle]

I've already been following those instructions aside from that

[dull oar]

Could you give me an update when you next try again, you might need to clear your old profile data

Call of duty 2/main/players/ delete anything in here

[static tangle]

figured it out, actually - the copy of the game I was using was selecting my iGPU instead of my 5080, for some reason. probably some patches on steam to better handle modern GPUs

[dull oar]

Aaaah happens to the best of us mate

[static tangle]

that being said... I've now got a build on the top of main, using your rtx.conf, and I haven't seen any crashes. What were you doing to cause the crash you were seeing?

Nvm, got a crash right after I asked that

[dull oar]

Video games are fun ain't they

Think it needs to load the replacements first before it crashes but not sure it's 100% the case and didn't wanna muddy the water

[radiant cradle]

AMD sabotage fr

[granite forge]

Every cod game does that unfortunately

[static tangle]

Figured it out - the crash actually happens because of replacements loading in.

As a WAR, wait on the load / weapon select screen for all the assets to load, then enter the game. That should bypass the only crash I've been able to reproduce.

I've got a fix for that locally, I'll clean it up and see about getting it submitted.

[dull oar]

Hell yes mark! Thank you so much!

I'm seeing all the new particle stuff and I'm despite to play with it. First thing tomorrow it's particle time

[static tangle]

Please give me a heads up if the WAR doesn't work for you, that'd indicate there's something else I need to dig into

[dull oar]

Yep will do, Its midnight over here but I'll give it a go first thing tomorrow morning

What changed in 870 to cause this I wonder?

[static tangle]

The change was actually in 863. But you have to get in before the assets load in, so if you were a bit slow to pick your team / weapon when testing 868, you would have thought that build was working fine

[dull oar]

right well fingers crossed mate 🙂 thanks again

Btw multiplayer works hint hint nudge nudge poke poke bang bang

[static tangle]

too much work to do 🙁

[dull oar]

@static tangle looks like the work around isnt working for me mate. the video ends just as the game crashes

it looks like its movement based, if i spawn and dont move it's fine but as soon as i move that camera it crashes

just switched to half life 2's rtx.config and swapped the hashrules to match mine and it crashes in the same way so its not the rtx.config file

[static tangle]

It crashed at the end of this video?

your texture resolutions are super low, how is your VRAM budget looking? and what do you see in the logs?

[dull oar]

The logs are attached here, bridge just says it's crashed and dxvk talks about neural cache stuff but if you remember you show me how to turn that off and it still crashed
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/891

Just booting the pc now to check vram, textures do look low don't they

50%, 7617/15323

if i keep the camera still i'm fine, its still running even now

[static tangle]

but when you start moving it immediately crashes?

[dull oar]

this is strange, if i turn on freecam and fly around it doesnt crash either

yea 1 second after i move the camera or player

i was flying around in free cam for ages then, moved the player, instant crash

[static tangle]

the crashing might be from culling or something.

I did notice that you have a couple of mesh replacements where a light comes before any meshes, which may have been handled incorrectly before.

Try this out (only sending the d3d9 files, make sure you have the latest public build installed before dropping these in)

[dull oar]

remix doesnt hook now

i used this build, debug optimized
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/16914477236

yea it doesnt hook with the new d3d9.dll from your zip folder anymore

[static tangle]

which d3d9.dll did you replace? the one I sent is supposed to go inside the .trex folder

[dull oar]

oh lol ok

we have a heatwave in the uk, lets blame that

[static tangle]

I'm just building the runtime, sorry,

don't need to redo the bridge for stuff like this

[dull oar]

yes! hell yes thats fixed it!

[static tangle]

righto. I've already got that up for review, so it's just a matter of getting it merged

[dull oar]

spot on, i'm good like this for a good while now 🙂

right time to remix again baby, thank you very much mark

[static tangle]

keep in mind that this build doesn't have the hash hack that I put into that old build for you

[dull oar]

yep thats ok, that issue turned out to be released to opacity micro maps and that tick box

it would blow up into spikes when memory ran low when that tick box was on. turning it off fixed it for good 🙂

[static tangle]

good to know

[dull oar]

work has begun!

this ones not a ww2 real piece i scanned though its a prop for stage or film but that's fine.

[dull oar]

Naught picture of my box

Certified free from explosives so that's cool. Now free of mouse droppings as well. Let's scan!

That was £16 on eBay or something like that. Wild

[dull oar]

more progress

[dull oar]

oh mate its EVERYWHERE in this stuff

tasty

[scarlet monolith]

Wow my assumption was correct

[dull oar]

the gas mask scares the shit out of me

the filter is asbestos

[scarlet monolith]

I was like vocally telling myself "stop speculating about boxes at 1am and go the fuck to sleep. delete your messages before you're tied up in a conversation about something you know nothing about"

But big woop asbestos gang

[dull oar]

tasty tasty asbestos

[scarlet monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/breathe-in-breathe-out-floyd-jackson-house-of-payne-inhale-exhale-breathing-exercise-gif-23964154

[dull oar]

looks like its a crate used to hold ammo for a 20mm Oerlikon Mk 12. a big navy gun for shooting down aircraft

[dull oar]

wow this is crate

thats not texture is vertex colour, its 12 million polygons and came out great 🙂

[dull oar]

and while the crates been crating i've made this

[floral stump]

yooo congrats @dull oar 👏🎉

[dull oar]

Cheers mate 🙂

[floral stump]

You deserve it

[dusk comet]

congrats!

[dull oar]

Got lucky

[sage locust]

it means we voted well? 😄 congrats buddy!

[dull oar]

Yea thank you to everyone who voted ☺️

Really means a lot

[mystic musk]

Congrats 🩷

[dusk comet]

i was glad to see you up there

[dull oar]

Glad to see something other than painkiller win

[dusk comet]

yeah

same

[marsh hinge]

congrats on the award

[dull oar]

Never thought I'd win the community vote. Not with need for speed getting 50k downloads

[dusk comet]

gotta remember nfs was like

one of the earliest rtx mods i think(?)

so like early on hype

[dull oar]

We need to set up a date and time. Get the server going and get playing together 😁

Who's point of multiplayer mods ain't it

[radiant belfry]

ccongrats!!!

[glass marlin]

@dull oar what do u wanna use the reward for?

[dull oar]

I'm gonna build a koi pond cause I'm an old ass man

And buy things to scan for my mod 😁

I can show the fish my mod, they'll love it

[slow shore]

gz

sad that xoxor didn't win anything though

but i get it

also i agree with the results

even if it would be too big of a project to remix more than just carentan

the other entries were really good

[dusk comet]

i kinda wish it was spread out more

[languid goblet]

Thought his Black Mesa was for sure gonna win something.

[dull oar]

"...after tadpole who i expected to win all the main categories"

jeez i'm right here

[slow shore]

who said that?

tbh the reason why i thought u might not is the scope that the other projects had which was completely impossible for cod2 in that timespan though

[dull oar]

You're a ray of sunshine ain't ya

[slow shore]

nah just realistic

i like that u won though but i didn't expect it

[floral nexus]

Hey, does anyone know how to fix some textures? In the game, some of them "jump" and disappear. But if you turn off RTX in the settings, everything is fine.

[dull oar]

If you turn it off your just playing the game normally

You need to mark ones with alpha or vertex alpha as decals

[floral nexus]

sor, but where can i find it?

[dull oar]

Trial and error, turn it on, check it works. Turn it off if it dont

[floral nexus]

im noob in this. cant see it in remix menu 🙁

[dull oar]

Wanna start with the tutorials mate? Kinda diving right in aren't we. My bad

https://youtu.be/MQejylcuAeU?si=GMm20_EWdbj_sBM6

[floral nexus]

damn. I just wanted to download the mod and play the game with it, I don't want any tutorials xd

[dull oar]

Did you download my mod?

It's only carentan for now

[floral nexus]

aha, guide on moddb helped me

[floral nexus]

wdym

[dull oar]

The mod your referring to is mine I think mate

[floral nexus]

for cod 2? i see, soo..

[dull oar]

It only works for carentan in the multiplayer

[floral nexus]

omg. I didnt know that. it wasn't written anywhere

[dull oar]

The mods name is remix of carentan

[floral nexus]

mb im just blind

Alright. Sorry for the misunderstanding, thank you for ur time

I understand that work on SP is on the way?

[dull oar]

Yep yep. Just wrapping up compatibility for the last of the multiplayer maps

[dull oar]

@static tangle hey so latest still crashes unless i copy the files from the cod2fix.zip file you gave me, is that right?

we got particles coming soon, and i know i'm not working on painkiller, but i thought it might be cool to see

[static tangle]

Damnit.... fixing your stuff the first time broke Portal and HL2, and now after fixing those I've broken you again. What happens when you ignore that assert, another crash?

[static tangle]

Is that a crash, or just an assert? after I ignore it a couple times, the game seems to be running just fine

[static tangle]

@dull oar I've got a fix for the assert, but I haven't been able to reproduce any actual crashes. Could you give me more info on what the actual crash was? or was it just the assert firing with no actual crash?

[dull oar]

hey sorry away from pc

portal smortal

[dull oar]

three ignores and it crashes

more of this

[static tangle]

What were you doing ? just entering the match before assets finish loading and walking around?

[dull oar]

yea just walking around, let me try waiting for them to load first

[static tangle]

I haven't been able to reproduce a crash like that at all, only that assert firing, but then it being fine once ignored.

what does it show when it crashes? any popups, logs, etc?

[dull oar]

yea the log popup happens

i sat on the choose team screen and did nothing while assets loaded. the pop up happened, i pressed ignore then it let me play

thats new

[static tangle]

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/17137085705
this build should fix the assert once it's done building, and hopefully your crash as well.

but I'd like more info about the crash you're getting

[dull oar]

oh new pop up

[static tangle]

I've only managed to get that when closing the app, did you get it while playing normally?

[dull oar]

yea i was just loading in again

[static tangle]

hrm. what happen after you ignored it? a crash?

did you get a dmp or a log file?

[dull oar]

yep

i got both

[static tangle]

pass over the log?

[static tangle]

[20:40:38.844] warn:  Specified hash was already present in SpatialMap::insert(). May indicate a duplicated overlapping object.
[20:40:38.874] warn:  Specified hash was missing in SpatialMap::erase().```

hmm... could feasibly happen due to the bug that was causing the assert, so this is probably fixed by the latest build

[dull oar]

oh ok

is this is my replacements?

i'm loading the same object twice at the exact same spot?

[static tangle]

Your replacement is falling into a corner case I didn't consider, which is pointing out a hole in the logic.

[dull oar]

could painkiller do that! best use of rtx my arse

[static tangle]

nothing is wrong with your asset - it's just doing something I hadn't thought of

[dull oar]

i can crash ya in 10 seconds, poke holes all over ya logic

that is good to hear though, i had no idea how to find that in this web of assets

[static tangle]

You have a replacement with 5 meshes+lights, where at least the first 3 meshes are all instances of the same mesh.

That mesh is getting moved around, to the point where the 3rd instance is closest to where the 1st instance was the previous frame. So the runtime starts trying to use that 3rd instance as the 1st instance, which it's not supposed to do

[dull oar]

oh wow that is an edge case 😛

[static tangle]

might be the clip full of bullets in the gun or something like that, not really sure

[dull oar]

if its moving yea its on the player

i got lil lights on him for a three point lighting rig

[static tangle]

I assume the 5 bullets would share a mesh, and moving the gun up and down rapidly could mean that #3 is almost exactly where #1 was last frame

[dull oar]

ah makes sense it happens when i move the player then

but not if i'm idle

[static tangle]

I haven't looked into exactly what the asset is tho, since I really just need to make it so meshes #2-#5 are not considered when looking for the #1 mesh (#1 mesh is considered the "root" of the replacement, while 2 through 5 are "subprims")

[dull oar]

oh we built lets give this a go

@static tangle works like a dream! yay!

smooth as butter, no need to wait for everything to load of anything

i like to bunny hop around the map while we load

[static tangle]

jumping.. exactly the sort of behavior most likely to cause the corner case I mentioned above

[dull oar]

boing boing, i'm out here making the game better

you think its just mindless jumping but now remix is stronger

I appreciate all your help mark btw, this has been my main hobby for years and i wouldnt be able to do any of it without your help mate 🙂

[static tangle]

I appreciate people actually using the things I spend years making - and nobody would be playing Remixed games if it weren't for modders actually making those games

[dull oar]

500 downloads and counting 🙂 getting comments and views all the time. digital foundry's video is at 200k views.

[dull oar]

bang bang bang bang bang

[dull oar]

New article baby
A single developer has remade Call of Duty 2's Carentan level with photo-scanned models, ray tracing and more | Eurogamer.net https://share.google/qKyIrqx97WaO1Na1p

Laughed at the cloudy weather remark, it's true!

[dull oar]

more bots and bobs

[dull oar]

now a right side!? omg

[dull oar]

scale a little off but its working 🙂

scale is right, the handle is longer in the old model is all

[chrome onyx]

Is that model based off of the one from the og game? I kinda forgot what it looked like since i play the letlev mod with the cod 3/waw weapon mod. Having the waw/bo1 1911 in the gane is peak

[dull oar]

it's based on a photoscan of the real weapon, all my stuff based on reality 🙂

so its brand spanking new. I'm still making it 🙂 check out the Enfield to see other examples of this

[scarlet monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/oooh-toy-story-aliens-amazed-shocked-gif-5654122

[dull oar]

did you change your username to the sticker on my crate?

[dull oar]

nearly done, got some bits and bobs to do still though

[scarlet monolith]

I'm glad you noticed, because I had forgotten. Lovely work as always. Anybody who bothers with mesh modelling is a hero, and yours is great. lol 🪿

[dull oar]

Oh cheers mate

[dull oar]

butterflies that land and stuff!111!!

[glass marlin]

Amazing start, hope you fix the ghosting issue

[scarlet monolith]

I support the concept of french butterflies that warp spacetime

[dull oar]

I don't think I can fix the ghosting, it's the denoiser ain't it.

Small solid things leave trails in remix

[glass marlin]

Then hopefully ur able to fix the animations soon

[summer brook]

Thats an interesting use of the particle system
Try toggling "align with velocity" 👀

[dull oar]

Oh yea good idea. Then they'll point the way they fly

[summer brook]

They'll fly upside down half of the time though

Unless, your textures don't point clear directions

[dull oar]

Yea why is everything upside down?

I noticed it with my smoke, this butterfly and some of the sparks I've been faffing with

[summer brook]

Hmm interesting. I haven't tested myself what is the defaults, but the particle will rotate clock-wise/ccw to align with the direction, which also means sometimes they might show upside down, as in a 180 degrees turn

[dull oar]

I have rotation set to 0 in everything I've tested so far. Always upsidedown

I assumed it had something to do with the uvs of my replacement mesh tbh

Try spawning a new default system with an arrow

You can see my butterflies are upsidedown

[summer brook]

Right now I remember doing some tests and seeing my textures upside down, though it was fixed at some point
The repro steps is just: Create a particle system and assign a texture with sense of direction? @dull oar

[dull oar]

Yea I'm not doing anything special. Just add a texture with "this way up" on it

It's wrong way up mate
#general-remix message

[light carbon]

This is probably the best looking RTX mod so far imo, cheers to you Tadpole because everything so far has been top notch. If you need help with character stuff i'm available

[limber compass]

how did you make these trees? they look amazing

[dull oar]

Downloaded the branches off sketch fab and spawned leafs I scanned on the twigs 🙂

[dull oar]

Cheers mate, I'm enjoying making all the art though. I'm scanning the uniforms myself

[light carbon]

I was mostly talking about faces and arms but you seem to have them down too so yeah keep it up. Hopefully one day the project will expand beyond the one map but it's still crazy good

[dull oar]

i just remembered i recorded a little making of
https://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-duty-2-rtx-remix-of-carentan/videos/propworkflow-new
skip to 13:37 to see the bit about the tree

[dull oar]

FINALLY some good fuckin content
https://youtu.be/lJIlHA2ze4A

[dull oar]

colts all done now 🙂

[glass marlin]

Do you plan on editing the truck to look as rusty and gruff as the original on the left?

[dull oar]

the invation of carentan happens on d day + 4. whys the original art so fucked up? it's come over from the UK, drove off a boat and 20 minutes down the road 😛

[glass marlin]

So basically irl in that same era that truck wouldn’t have looked that messed up?

[dull oar]

no not in 4 days. even that assumes it came over on day 1

[glass marlin]

Ah ofc

[dull oar]

there will be a fucked up version mind you, and a desert one 🙂 just not here

battle of caen around the same time

thats what the map needs to look like man, got some work to do

another great photo

even the wrecks are less fucked up that cod2's original artwork 😛

[glass marlin]

ooooo who tried restoring that image?

[dull oar]

yea background looks a bit funky dont it, got some bangers here though
https://www.facebook.com/worldwarincolor/photos

[dull oar]

redid the crate 🙂 much sharper

[glass marlin]

Maybe you could have both as variants across the map

[dull oar]

anyone know what this article says? It's paywalled and dutch
https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Nvidia-Geforce-Grafikkarte-255598/Specials/RTX-Remix-Call-of-Duty-2-Unreal-Performance-Grafik-Test-1481419/

[granite forge]

its german mate

RTX Remix has been stirring excitement among players for quite some time now — fueling inspiration for modders and, not least, rekindling the warm feeling of nostalgia. So far, however, it has mainly been Nvidia themselves or Nvidia-backed modding teams who have shown the potential of RTX Remix. With Portal RTX — our review and detailed technical information can be found at this link — Nvidia’s modding toolkit flexes its path tracing muscles. Another modding project currently in development that is directly supported by Nvidia is Half-Life 2 RTX — you can also find a hands-on report on our website. Additionally, a short feature on Need for Speed Underground with RTX Remix and fine path-traced graphics is freely available on PCGH.

What is RTX Remix?

The modding toolkit RTX Remix, developed and offered by Nvidia, is designed to make it easier for modders to bring classic games back to life in a new shine. Quite literally, since RTX Remix is intended to promote ray tracing and — even more so — path tracing. To achieve this, modders can use RTX Remix to replace or supplement the original assets of a given game, including textures, shaders, and models. If desired, AI comes to the rescue. Artificial intelligence can help, for example, by converting textures into Physically Based Rendering (PBR) materials needed for modern lighting techniques. AI can also upscale textures to higher resolutions.

The toolkit provides a convenient graphical user interface for this task. Highly complex programming skills or even manual reverse engineering of the game’s original code are not strictly necessary. That said, RTX Remix is merely a supportive tool and can be very helpful for asset porting — but it does not replace the complete work of a modder or a whole modding team. Considerable effort is still required, and for successful ports, quite a lot of it. This can be seen, for example, in the lengthy development process of Half-Life 2 RTX.

The RTX Remix Competition

Probably to demonstrate that RTX Remix can also enable smaller modding teams — or even individual creators without direct Nvidia support — to breathe new (path-traced) life into older games, the graphics card manufacturer and path tracing pioneer launched a modding competition in collaboration with Moddb.com. The contest offered a total prize pool of 50,000 USD. Naturally, there weren’t just awards for first place or a single category. Prizes were awarded, for example, for “Best Overall Remix Mod,” “Best Use of RTX in a Mod,” or “Most Complete RTX Mod, Playable Experience,” all judged by a panel. The community was also able to vote for a favorite.

and it also links to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXJThqivfqY

not sure if there is more content tho - I'm not a sub

[dull oar]

its this page i'm after but i'm not paying for it

yea no worries, just on the off chance someone is

i didnt charge for the mod you'd think i'd be able to see what people say about it

[granite forge]

haha just send them a message and ask for the article 😄

[dull oar]

thats not a bad shout actually

[cerulean mica]

Does anyone know why NVIDIA game filters don't work with Call of Duty 2?

[sage locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6BifJrCqoI once again.

FYI @dull oar As mentioned earlier I am preparing COD2 RTX Carentan exhibition that will be available to public during the tournament. I could use your COD2 REMIXED logo for that purpose, can you tag the guy who made it? I think he sent it to me in the past but I have no idea how to find it now 😄

[dull oar]

Hey, he got banned for being a plonker

I remade it myself

Here you go @sage locust

Video looks sick

[cerulean mica]

Guess what? I renamed CoD2SP_s.exe (CoD2 executable) to iw5sp.exe (MW3 executable), and NVIDIA game filters started working natively (DX9, without RTX Remix), although Ambient Occlusion and HUD removal are not available in the filters list

[dull oar]

It's working! Not remix...but definitely something else

What's the plan dude?

[cerulean mica]

I remember the hacks from 2005 that allowed forcibly enabling Ambient Occlusion by editing the NVIDIA game profile, although it looked terrible with snowdrifts due to visible polygons 😄

[cerulean mica]

I’m just looking for what else can be fixed or improved in this game.
I recently released the LE mod update for the 20th anniversary of Call of Duty 2, but I’m not sure if any part of it will help improve the Remix project, except… that now you can use my new files to add HD fonts hehe

[dull oar]

Hey that's cool. 20 years is mad. I remember walking to the shops that day to get the game

Cold Saturday walk on a sunny day. Stopped off at the model shop on the way to have a look around

[dull oar]

vertex painter wetness you guys!

proof of technique not quality art

[granite forge]

he's back 👀

[dull oar]

I spent the $10,000 on fortnite skins, getting fired up for the next competition

[dusk comet]

Please tell me this is a lie

[dull oar]

No no that's REALLY a vertex painted material

[dusk comet]

Sob

[dull oar]

heeeeeeeeeeey look at that 🙂 the forest looks good

grass sure looks patchy dont it

[dusk comet]

I cant help but notice the edges, trees are Hella gad

Gas

[dull oar]

what edges mate?

[dull oar]

the ones in the terrain?

[dusk comet]

Yeah

[dull oar]

ah yea dont worry about that, gaea time tomorrow

going to sculpt it in gaea and blend some textures together with vertex blending 🙂

[dusk comet]

Nice

[dull oar]

gonna spend some time on this, been thinking about it for a while

even though my american sides handgun is 98% finished

[dull oar]

hehehe

[chrome onyx]

Looks great! What are you going to do for the hud?

[dull oar]

not sure yet, any suggestions?

man this looks sick

[chrome onyx]

Hmm. Maybe a mix between CoD 3 and WaW. I'm not sure there is an HD verson of those 2 though

[dusk comet]

Crazy

[dull oar]

very cool stuff

with blender i can paint where my grass goes 🙂

i can add these lil pathways and stuff 🙂

[radiant cradle]

So much foliage
I think my GPU might explode

[dull oar]

but its instanced foliage, seems fairly cheap

[glass marlin]

Wait ur able to do instancing in remix?

[dull oar]

Hell yes
#asset-creation message

[radiant cradle]

What’s the VRAM usage?

[dull oar]

varies based on your graphics card dont it

gotta sculpt the new terrain to the old terrain still but its a great start

[dull oar]

its this on mine but a good chunk of settings are set to things like "25% of available vram"

[radiant cradle]

Oh yeah, AMD 8GBs is cooked

[dull oar]

naaaaaaaaaaaah you wanna try it?

actually i got no floor right now

[radiant cradle]

My RX 7600 is on eBay, lmao

I might use it one last time for a upcoming video and that’s it for that

[dull oar]

nevermind then

[glass marlin]

Amazing news ty so much, does that mean I’m able to have a high about of lights that have meshes on them and the gpu won’t freak out?

[dull oar]

not sure. I think remix caps the max amount of lights in a scene

[dull oar]

more terrain work

just need to blend it more with the original 🙂

[dull oar]

its perfect!

I can even vertex paint it, just need some decent materials and paint masks 🙂

[radiant belfry]

what did you use to place the grass meshes so naturally?

[dull oar]

geometry nodes, its from @sullen iris 's awesome tutorial 🙂

[dull oar]

wee lighting study cause why not

[radiant belfry]

pretty amazing

it looks beautiful

[dull oar]

Yea does don't it. My new terrain blends with the old and sits just under it so all the decals blend like they did before. I got vertex painting as well but my materials suck

[dull oar]

mountains?

[radiant belfry]

@dull oar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA6iUYAr_bk

if you wanted to try to simulate the exact pattern of the tires for the trucks

[dull oar]

oooooooh thats an idea aint it

[dull oar]

i did it

i am become grass

[limber otter]

The reclaimer of destroyed worlds

[scarlet monolith]

destroyer of hash

[sage locust]

my usual rtx experience 😂

[dull oar]

sorted the terrain now 🙂 looking very cool. wanna add some farms and stuff still though

[chrome onyx]

Hard to imagine that this is still a 2005 game from this screenshot

[dull oar]

Getting there, got so many things I need to wrap up. stuff I've started but never finished

[chrome onyx]

Wonder if it would be possible to make the powerlines move in the wind

though I dont think it is possible just yet

[dull oar]

affraid we dont have usd animation but would be wicked, get the trees wiggling as well

[chrome onyx]

Would it work if we make a little mod (using cod radiant) to add wavy animation for cloth and such? Or would it just show up solid in remix?

[dull oar]

it would work yea, its how i do characters 🙂

[dull oar]

texture time baby, and about time it's been 15 minutes from texture time for 6 months

[dull oar]

slapped a random material on it and got it in remix. doing it like this is a tadpole top tip cause then you just gotta reingest the meshes over and over everytime you got an update to textures or model 🙂

[dull oar]

lil work in progress on the textures 🙂

and in game cause why not

[dull oar]

there we go that'll do it

[dull oar]

brap brap

[dull oar]

all my character stuff together 🙂

[dull oar]

still need to wear the metal down a bit where stuff rubs. getting closer

[dull oar]

getting cooler all the time baby

and in game cause this is remix showcase afterall. needs some faffing though til i'm happy with the rifle

[dull oar]

there we go all done now

[dull oar]

working on some renders and wanted to show off

[glass marlin]

what rendering software r u using?

[dull oar]

marmoset toolbag

[dull oar]

made nighttime more nightish. the stars twinkle with an animated mask 🙂 they're also 3d meshes now

now to change the points position to match a star map. i spend my time strangely

[dull oar]

i stayed up late and got that sorted 🙂 we got real stars now 🙂

[radiant cradle]

Not real until you recreate the process of nuclear fusion within the game

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-doctor-octopus-the-power-of-the-sun-in-the-palm-of-my-hand-sun-gif-23770857

[chrome onyx]

Add a nuke going off after getting 30 kills without dying 😂

[dull oar]

Let's say I have. Ain't no way I'm getting that anyway

[chrome onyx]

Is it possible with the new logic update to remix?

[dull oar]

Right so playing online isn't really doable. No one's around to play so with the help of ai I've added some bots to the mod. It's just a death match but they run around and shoot you. It's fun enough.

They glide around the map on a waypoint system cause the multiplayer part of cod2 has no nav mesh or ai. What can you do 🤷‍♂️

They shoot you and you shoot them, it's fiiiiine

[dull oar]

some lighting experiments

[dull oar]

time to show off my bots for the first time. they aren't great YET but they will be pretty damn sick when its done 🙂

they arent great but they're mine and i can ship them with the mod

gives you something to do as well, plus is kinda fun

[dull oar]

right so we got new behaviour
If they loose 60% of their health they run away If they take 40% of your health they're emboldened to hunt your pathetic arse They can throw grenades They camp They snipe They crouch and duck behind things (they do that more then low on health or under heavy fire) They only fire if your in view They loose accuracy if you fire at them a bunch They have a cone of vision that uses bullet trace so if your behind something your out of sight and they wont just fire at you, you can evade them with this They can hear you approach unless you crouch walk up to them They can hear your gun shots and react based on their health levels They have a tactical reload

also we got a new night time config to show off, check out the tracer bullets and muzzle flashes! i love playing at night its so much more spooky

if anyone actually wants a go i could release this, I'd have to take out the characters mind you so it wont be a quick thing

also they still dont animate. i made them bob up and down when they move. best i can do for now 🙂

[dull oar]

new weather! about a month late but thats fiiiiiiiiiine

yooooooo new map 😮

[radiant cradle]

Remix logic to implement the Nuke when?

[chrome onyx]

did anything carry over from caretan?

[scarlet monolith]

the n didn't make it 🤧

[dull oar]

experimenting with 3d snow, its procedural but i can paint on it and set up materials, its got a lot of power.

i know its poking through roofs and looks a little strange but its first hour with it. we'll get there

oh before and after just so you know what your looking at

i'm going to replace the old snow with snow and dirt and have the actual snow be 3d 🙂

[limber otter]

can you spawn a decal with POM enabled underneath your feet to fake snow deforming?

[chrome onyx]

I'd love to see this on WaW, then I realize there isnt ANY snow missions on the game. Well custom maps do lol

Id imagine you could add stuff like smoke and ash into the air via logic

[radiant cradle]

should let me feature this in a video

[dull oar]

Oh it's first pass shit right now. Let's hold off until I got the buildings sorted

[chrome onyx]

Does the snow only interact properly with original game assets, or would it also interact with assets that only exist in remix?

[dull oar]

It doesn't interact or anything, it's just a mesh that sits on top of the other meshes

[chrome onyx]

i meant as does the snow land on remix objects

[dull oar]

It hits the floor and immediately dies. Doesn't really land

[chrome onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-from-cringe-of-original-gif-26151991

[dull oar]

A memorial service will take place this Sunday for the snowflakes we lost in the process.

[static tangle]

@dull oar https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/commit/bb05bddfdf6c2a302f36218e98941422dd178701 FYI 🙂

[dull oar]

oh mark you are a legend, this has made my day 🙂

[dull oar]

do i need to comment out anything for my issue where the textures all get blurry when i die and respawn? I had to comment out a clear before didnt I
#general-remix message

[static tangle]

That's exactly the issue this new build is supposed to fix, but you need to set an rtxOption

set ⁨rtx.sceneKeepAliveFrames⁩ to 1 or 2 in your rtx.conf. You'll want to keep that number low, but high enough that you don't get the texture resets

[dull oar]

perfect, i'll rebuild (i build now :P) and give it a play. thanks mate

[static tangle]

Gimme a heads up if it's fixed for you, so I can close up the internal ticket

[dull oar]

testing now mate

oh hang on something up on github

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/21608665939

[static tangle]

yep, that's the build

[dull oar]

its dead no?

[static tangle]

oh dear

looks like some kinda server error, you should still be able to rebuild it locally if ya want

[dull oar]

textures dont pop when i due 🙂 graph resets mind still though but the textures are solid as a rock 🙂

this is latest right? i dont trust visual studio "remix-main+1fa669aa"

[static tangle]

the commit I linked? yes, basically latest - the merge commit after it should just be git tracking stuff, no actual changes.

I'm surprised the graphs are still resetting, but maybe it's registering a camera teleport or something

[dull oar]

i think its probably best i wait for an action and download from that, i cant tell if i'm on latest or not 😛

[static tangle]

looks like retrying the action builds worked, so they should be available in a few minutes

[dull oar]

wheres the option in the remix dev menu mate?

[static tangle]

didn't add one, since it's just a workaround for a single game (for now at least). was just trying to knock it out in between working on other tasks

[dull oar]

really appreciate it mate, i'll just add the line to my rtx.config file 🙂

been working around the clock on some mod upgrades i'd dying to show off

13 hours on saturday i swear i'm so pumped up its mad

[static tangle]

Glad to hear it, always a good feeling when a project can make time disappear like that

[dull oar]

its wild, how is it nearly midnight?! where is everyone?

oh sneaky peaky time, i'd made a fake lod script. since we cant really lod i've made a fake one for my hgh res new characters that switches at 30 meters and 50 meters to some super low lod versions i've made. they also switch lod out of view and when behind walls. its pretty seamless and boosts perf laods. i was getting engine warnings about too many skinned verts

also you can just nuke all the grass in a map and free up 900 entities for new stuff dont you know. i think i've nearly cracked singleplayer when deleting grass gives you a spare 11,000 entities. then with the lod script you can have high res custom characters and they cull again

[static tangle]

build finished, BTW
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/21608665939

[dull oar]

that works just as before 🙂 setting it to 0 also works mind you so not sure what's happened there

[static tangle]

nice! so no more texture loading problems. glad to hear it

[dull oar]

hell yea, i'm back in business

the graph resets on death still though. the sky is meant to be dark but lightens up after death

[static tangle]

If you set rtx.sceneKeepAliveFrames to a larger number, does the graph resetting stop?

Oh, also, the code is set up to reset the graphs when a camera teleport is detected (to not apply settings from one level to another). So the camera moving on respawn would reset the graphs

[dull oar]

aaaaaah yea that'll be it then, any idea what i can do?

[static tangle]

Looks like there aren't options for that right now - camera cut is based on unique object search distance, and you don't want to make that huge

[dull oar]

cause the mesh hash is still present

its the big sphere i put in the sky

[static tangle]

so I guess... file a github issue asking for ways to control whether camera cuts cause a graph reset, or to change how camera cuts are detected

[dull oar]

could do a hacky thing, tick box to not reset on camera change. the overrides go away when the hash goes right?

[static tangle]

yep.

[dull oar]

i'll pop a github issue in the morning, cheers for this mate it's made a massive difference

got bots now, you can play solo 🙂 i'll update moddb soon

dude how cinematic is this!

huh my decals have a ring of bright (shiny?) pixels around them. it fades out as i get closer

[static tangle]

could be volumetrics and low mipmap levels having some kinda poor interaction

[dull oar]

Yea could be, I'll have a play tomorrow after work, see what makes that texture special

[radiant cradle]

Best RTX Remix project imo

[glass marlin]

Shame those transformer artifacts are roughhhh

[dull oar]

What's a transformer artifact?

[glass marlin]

The blocky artifacts on screen when the enviroment flashes

[dull oar]

Oh yea bit ugly ain't it, can I fix that do you know?

[glass marlin]

enabling model D but it leads to more boiling

[radiant cradle]

Screw it, Model L

[glass marlin]

ray reconstruction and super resolution models are different 💔

[radiant cradle]

Just leave RR off, ez

[glass marlin]

0/10 ragebait

[radiant cradle]

RR is blurry at lower resolutions anyway

Becomes oily

[glass marlin]

at the expense of normal denoising being terrible on motion

[radiant cradle]

Maybe I should experiment with Intel’s denoiser, I hear it’s quality is quite good while being hardware agnostic

Intel is fr the new AMD 🥀

(Seems their denoiser is offline rendering only, I don’t think anyone has made a direct alternative to NRD)

[dull oar]

You NRD's got a combination of settings you prefer? Normally I just leave this stuff default

[glass marlin]

no you should experement with this denoiser https://www.lalber.org/2025/06/percentile-based-adaptive-svgf/

[radiant cradle]

https://github.com/LDAP/merian/tree/b397276b51cd750c74002b581d3a460921517a56/include/merian-nodes/nodes/svgf

Benefits?

Over NRD I mean

[glass marlin]

im sure its gotta be better if the denoising in merian quake is so incredible in motion

[glass marlin]

oh btw dlss 4.5 resolves ray tracing data worse than preset K

Way more noise and boiling

[radiant cradle]

What about model M?

[radiant cradle]

I’ll give it a try then

[glass marlin]

model M is the main culprit i think

[glass marlin]

gameplay of the denoiser in action https://youtu.be/ehaiiZGC6zA

[dull oar]

we adding new denoisers now?

[dull oar]

so I reset pretty much everything in the denoiser and turned on the D. it's looking pretty good on the sky change and lightning now. it smears a lot of the grass though

[radiant cradle]

I’ve been adding a few things, albeit incomplete