Call of Duty 2

[dull oar]

yep it's thin-walled

new zip after marks advice yesterday

[sweet cloak]

[slate plank]

Can you uncheck "Use diffuse layer" as diffuse layer isn't properly handled in this attenuation and stained glass shouldn't be having diffuse layer

[sweet cloak]

The hell did I doooo

[dull oar]

is portalfinecull off?

[dull oar]

ah i see. I've turned it off, its darker now and doesnt like the sky box anymore

also no shadow 😦

[sweet cloak]

They've become unstable entirely, don't even have to move to have them change

[dull oar]

have you changed the hashrule?

[sweet cloak]

I didn't update anything :/

[dull oar]

you have holes in your terrain mate

[slate plank]

Hmm. I don't have a quick fix, I logged the issue internally, though we know the attenuation for translucent objects is a ToDo item.

[sweet cloak]

I think my games settings got messed up

[dull oar]

cheers peter, no rush 🙂 i'll wrap this model up and wait on a push with the updates

[slate plank]

One last suggestion:
Check the box in Path Tracing -> Resolver -> Direct Translucent Shadows

[dull oar]

😮

[sweet cloak]

Now we're cooking

[dull oar]

your a genius peter, I've said it before

[slate plank]

This was suggestion from someone else on the team but I am glad we got to unblock you

[dull oar]

tell them thank you ❤️ gonna look amazing!

[sweet cloak]

The Prims aren't even stable

[dull oar]

that has to be hash rule

rtx.geometryGenerationHashRuleString = positions,texcoords,geometrydescriptor,vertexshader

in rtx.conf

[sweet cloak]

Oh thank god their stable now

[dull oar]

phew

it'll fuck up your light placement but you just need reattached them to the new mesh hash

how'd that get changed?

[sweet cloak]

I have no idea

[dull oar]

indices in that rule ruins it

[sweet cloak]

I didn't modify the hash rule at all before

[dull oar]

must have reverted to default

indices in there is default

maybe you pressed reset in rtx menu by mistake

[sweet cloak]

Ohhhh

I did

[dull oar]

ah

[sweet cloak]

Lemme go grab your rtx conf

[dull oar]

it's new

got that sexy direct light from the screenshots above

[sweet cloak]

Aw man now no textures load 😦

[dull oar]

replacement ones?

[sweet cloak]

Yea

[dull oar]

yea it's that hash rule

[sweet cloak]

It seems like it's only on mp_carentan

[dull oar]

the no textures only happens there?

[sweet cloak]

No wait it happens on most of them

I think some reference in my mod usda got messed up

[dull oar]

they will do as you changed the hash rule

but i can share my mod and rtx config and fix that, one sec

[sweet cloak]

I'm really confused now

[dull oar]

the hashes get remade when the rule changes

so remix doesnt know whats replacing what anymore

as i remember it

[radiant belfry]

how did you guys get the frame to be solid?

[sweet cloak]

Seperate meshes

[radiant belfry]

you can replace a single mesh with 2 meshes?

sorry if that's obvious, lol

[sweet cloak]

Yep

Potentially an unlimited number of meshes tbh

[sweet cloak]

So I think it might be the fact that the walls act as an occuluder which likely get handled different than the frustum culling.

Which means that's gotta go too

[sweet cloak]

Aw man there's nothing really pointing to where those are used

Gotta venture into the depths

Not sure why the pop in is so bad for railyard

[sweet cloak]

https://github.com/adamplayer/CallOfDuty2RTX/blob/main/gfx_d3d_mp_x86_s - RTX-V2.ips

I'll mess with the pop-in at a later date

Game do look pretty tho with all the updated materials

[dull oar]

Yes Adam! you're a machine! A game making machine. That's incredible

If you swap level without closing the game popin is awful. It'll be what's happening on your railyard video I bet. I think it's because of one of these
seta r_portalFineCull "0"
seta r_lodScale "1"
seta r_forcelod "0"
seta r_lodBias "-1000"

[dull oar]

that looks perfect to me mate well bloody done dude!

oh looks like we have props disappearing. like we had in single player last time #1099591203768504421 message you mentioned blending the modifications kungfooman made in response #1099591203768504421 message that mp_brecourt by the tumbled down house

[sweet cloak]

I hope blending his modifications works cause I don’t know why the props are popping in now.

[dull oar]

Isn't it going to be the same fix you did with single player?

[sweet cloak]

Single player just had a visibility bypass, didn’t touch anything else. I still had to figure out the rest of the culling for it.

Multiplayer already has that modification, so I probably cant pull from it.

I think bypassing the occlusion broke something with the props that I’ll have to look at. Hopefully it’s another easy patch but ya never know.

[dull oar]

Fingers crossed that's all it is

[sweet cloak]

Hm. I wonder if it’s just drawing all props in a sphere around the player rather than the camera frustum?

Could look around in any of the sub functions in the render function for usage of pi.

Could you check if the props are still being rendered behind the player or are they only in front?

If they are rendered behind the player then I just gotta look for a function that involves both a square root and/or pi. A square root is indicative of a normalization which how you do a distance comparison quickly. Pi is typically reserved for math dealing with trigonometry and circles among other things.

[dull oar]

checking now 🙂

kinda feels like an area where props go away

infront or behind they get culled around that tree area

[sweet cloak]

Hmm

So it’s not just a sphere now

I wonder if it’s treating things that shouldn’t be occluders as occluders now.

[dull oar]

it's only affecting props, not bsp's anymore

and so far only in that one spot

[sweet cloak]

I’ll test out applying the KingFooMan modifications to see if that helps this afternoon.

[sweet cloak]

It seems that props are now occluding based on their bounds or something.

[dull oar]

why that big tree?

[sweet cloak]

I think it has an occlusion flag for the trunk.

[sweet cloak]

Man I can not for the life of me get a distant light to add to the scene via OV

[sweet cloak]

There we go

[sweet cloak]

Okay got stable hashes and frustum culling gone in SP

Gun keeps flashing in and out of existence though like it did in MP for a bit

[dull oar]

Oh nice one!

Baby steps mate

[sweet cloak]

Also props don't want to draw behind the player just quite yet

Speaking of props

[dull oar]

Lol oh yea cool ain't it. It's got a mode for surface materials too

[sweet cloak]

Hm I can't seem to figure out how to draw behind the player

[dull oar]

How's bsp brushes looking in single player? Are those as stable as the multiplayer ones?

The multiplier ones don't change at all as far as I can tell. Even terrain is on lock

[radiant belfry]

man, you're amazing

you're singlehandedly destroying culling, lol

[dull oar]

In every game he touches!

[radiant belfry]

holding out hope for Barnyard still 😛

[radiant belfry]

this already looks amazing

curious to see what you'll do with it

[sweet cloak]

Current status

Note: I don't have any debug commands besides the portalfinecull, so the props changing hash from lod isn't too much of a surpise

[sweet cloak]

Add lighting and play the campaign

[dull oar]

Props are changing draw hash, you have r_smc_enable set to 0 right?

[sweet cloak]

Nope

[dull oar]

Stops props batching

[sweet cloak]

No wait

I do

But not the lods

[dull oar]

Oh it's lods, I see

Looks super stable in that case

Do you plan to make the 4 commands default with the dll then?

[sweet cloak]

I should probably yea, can I just copy one of the cfg's you sent?

[sweet cloak]

But the last piece, complete overdraw including behind the player, is missing from the puzzle

[dull oar]

I see

Sure just copy the multiplayer one I gave you and rename it for single player

[sweet cloak]

[dull oar]

The last one I sent you from my Google link has my commands I execute in game bound to f2. Tis handy

[sweet cloak]

I'll make an IPS of these modifications and add it to my repo. Need to go into the Chamber of Understanding to figure out the drawing behind the player.

https://i.gifer.com/2WDt.gif

https://github.com/adamplayer/CallOfDuty2RTX/blob/main/gfx_d3d_x86_s - RTX.ips

[dull oar]

Now you have to post "GOOD NEWS, EVERYONE" once you crack this

[sweet cloak]

Might not be for awhile The one direction check that I know of doesn't seem to do the trick in the SP.

[dull oar]

Sneaky single player

It's the last piece of the puzzle ain't it

[sweet cloak]

Yea. I'll mess with lighting the hold the line mission while I ponder what they might've done.

[dull oar]

Nice, have some fun dude

[sweet cloak]

Might be able to just get by with the anticulling lights feature

Nope, muzzle flashes persist with that

It do look pretty tho

[dull oar]

Oh hells yea that's sick

You can add custom sky's but it's noisy. You might remember my issues a few weeks back

Direct light was shining through it last time. No idea why so I had sun and sky

[sweet cloak]

I figured out how to add a distant light/sun light source finally

[dull oar]

Oh nice one! Per level lighting

[sweet cloak]

By default, remix puts it under the map. You have to rotate it to be under the map in OV. If that makes sense

I think it's Y=-180

The other rotations work as expected

[dull oar]

Oh I get it

Well found mate, I'll have to give that a go later.

What we really want is some kind of post process volume we can set exposure, fog, bloom and colour tonemapping to. Could even put your sun light in there as we do with the fallback lighting

Gonna be hard to make your post processing work for desert levels and snow levels otherwise

[mystic juniper]

Hello there, I accidentally saw the rtx.conf in the github repo and there are some inconsistencies in it, that result in first-person weapons casting shadows onto the world / clipping through walls.
E.g. removing all rtx.playerModel* lines from rtx.conf and trying to tweak the View model settings

[sweet cloak]

So don't mark the player model textures?

[mystic juniper]

Might worth removing, if there is no visible effect; as they may change the draw call type detection

[dull oar]

Thank you so much, if you spot anything else please speak up it's super appreciated

[sweet cloak]

👍

@dull oar 's textures are just

Props still pop in and out of existence in SP so I guess it’s just props being all wonky.

[dull oar]

You fixed that in single player over the weekend didn't ya?

[sweet cloak]

I fixed it in multiplayer, but not in SP afaik.

[dull oar]

Ah yes I see. Your fixing too much too fast I can't keep up 😭

[timid trout]

What a beautiful day to chill out and get wrecked by a panzerfaust.

[sweet cloak]

I believe it was the occluders that ended up being at fault somehow. I don’t think the game updates the position correctly with the modifications I’ve made.

I’ll be out being social this weekend so not going to be making any progress till later next week.

[dull oar]

Take it easy mate

[dull oar]

aight i found out what this is, its r_lodbias -1000 perfectly fine after that

@sweet cloak ^ just dont do that and you're all set

[sweet cloak]

For the pop in?

[dull oar]

the random props popping in and out on brecourt

[sweet cloak]

Noted

What was it set to before?

[dull oar]

0 is default

it means stuff disappears away fairly close to the camera

-1000 pushes it back quite a distance

[dull oar]

havent posted in a while. now we got stable hashes i'm making models to replace them with. making progress, gonna be sweet 🙂

[sweet cloak]

Absolutely amazing 👏

[dull oar]

I'm currently adding all the dials and internal bits to the lamps for you to light as you like. We can make it look like the cars running still. the left sides going to be blow up slightly like the original

[sweet cloak]

Gonna be a showcase piece once we’re done

[timid trout]

this should change

[radiant belfry]

to what?

it was updated not too long ago

[timid trout]

There isn't CoD is there

[radiant belfry]

don't think so. that was from about a month ago

we could have like a monthly competition thing to make a new banner based on images from #showcase

[timid trout]

Then CoD2 and UG2 would dominate it

[radiant belfry]

there'd be rules of course

like a minimum of 4 images, and one game per image

[timid trout]

Is it possible to put a gif there

@radiant belfry

[sweet cloak]

With enough boosts I think

[timid trout]

It is maxed out

[radiant belfry]

no

solid image only afaik

ah yeah, okay

Animated Server Banner

If your server has reached Boosting Level 3, then you server gets access to an Animated Server Banner at the top of your channel list!
they must have added this since i last looked

personally i'm not a fan of that though, because it'd just constantly be playing as long as it's visible

ah no, they changed that too

The banner animates when the guild first loads for 5 seconds, then it pauses.
If a user scrolls through the channel list, making the banner disappear, the banner will animate again for 5 seconds once the banner reappears.
The banner will animate on hover (like an animated server icon).

seems okay

[timid trout]

I think you can set delays for each frame

Something like 20s would do well

[dull oar]

A monthly competition could be cool. Good way to encourage making images

[timid trout]

We need more competition

[sweet cloak]

Gotta figure out more games that work well

[dull oar]

Yea for sure. I saw a 007 games in projects that uses idtech 3 btw Adam

Hmm can't find it now

[sweet cloak]

Just like 007

[dull oar]

Literally watching casino royal now. #game-compatibility message

[sweet cloak]

Scripted

[dull oar]

Oh that's the wrong bond game. Source engine. Nevermind

[timid trout]

goldsrc

[sweet cloak]

Which is a quake engine iirc

[timid trout]

Yeah looks like old games had such close relationships

[dull oar]

https://www.moddb.com/engines/id-tech-3/games

some cool ones here

[timid trout]

Was Quake's game engine open sourced back then?

[sweet cloak]

No not then I don't think

[dull oar]

guess they were licensing it out like unreal and unity do now

renderware were doing that around this period as well werent they

https://youtu.be/FKpDFIWK1DI

[timid trout]

@dull oar https://trello.com/c/9lgqM6dt/334-call-of-duty-2
This is before you solved the decal issue, it is clearly playable now 🙂

Trello

Call of Duty 2

RTX Remix Version: 0.2.0

---

Wrappers used:

---

Issues:

• Glitchy layer blending causes almost everything to be transparent.

---

Notes:
Set the renderer to DX7
See the Discord thread for up to date information.

Discord Thread

**Submitted on: **...

Labels

Partially Playable, Retail, Remix 0.2.0

[dull oar]

Yep totally playable now. You mind updating that? Never used Trello before, don't have an account or anything

[timid trout]

Unfortunately you can't update existing ones, Runestorm told that he is working on it.

#offtopic message

This was after I pinged you sorry :/

[dull oar]

All cool mate, was just catching up on the conversations anyway

[dull oar]

slapped some basic material on it, no glass or anything yet. progress!

[sweet cloak]

Looks amazing

The paint material looks so good

[dull oar]

and now for something completely different I photoscanned a tree for the oak in carentan

[sweet cloak]

That do look like a tree. White oak?

[dull oar]

yea seems about right. tiny oak tree in an english park 🙂

[sweet cloak]

How many tris did your scan end up with? Wonder if you could just clean it up in meshroom and plop it straight into remix without much fps loss

[dull oar]

couple million polys mate 😛

[sweet cloak]

It’ll handle it ez

[dull oar]

but with five minutes inside 3ds max we got this

[sweet cloak]

[dull oar]

transfer texture and mesh in mudbox, sculpt a bit, bring into substance painter, paint a bit and we're all set 🙂

i'll have to model the ends of the branches and eventually slap a load of this stuff all over it though
https://www.textures.com/search/114563?q=Quercus

[sweet cloak]

Are there any italianate architectural elements or facades ya want scanned? Got hundreds here.

Or cobble/brick streets

[dull oar]

oh snap, yea we do have this that i'm strugling to find IRL

its dark today...not sure why

another one i'm struggling to find is this, wooden roof tiles

[sweet cloak]

There’s a few homes with that, I can dig through my archives and see if I have photos of it.

[dull oar]

had metalness on it for some reason, all fixed now, its the trim on the side of the building

[sweet cloak]

Oh that trim we got lots.

[dull oar]

oh snap tasty

do you know how to capture for photo scanning? specifically a flat surface

[sweet cloak]

I can do LiDAR Scanning and photo scanner with my iPhone

[dull oar]

never played with that, be curious to see what it makes

[sweet cloak]

I don’t live far from all this so it’s no biggie if I end up with a bad scan

[dull oar]

typically i shoot raw with a DLSR on an overcast day. for flat surfaces you shoot planar to the object and pan side to side slowly working your way up with at most 50% overlap in each photo. process them in agisoft and you're all set 🙂

being from england getting an overcast day's typically fairly easy 😛

[sweet cloak]

We don’t get those till fall so might be a bit till I get to that level

[dull oar]

anything like this would be awesome, patches in a smooth stucco wall revealing the bricks

now we got stable walls we can go crazy adding decal patches like this

[sweet cloak]

Got lots of those. From on purpose patch work to just plain aging

There’s also a copy of the Norte dame nearby. 👀

[dull oar]

oh no way, calls for a drone that mate

[sweet cloak]

I think my work has a lidar scan of it, but that’s not really a photo scan

[sweet cloak]

There’s a painted masonry example of this nearby if you’re good with just the mesh of it

[dull oar]

long way to go. old COD just stole from band of brothers 😛

[dull oar]

oh thats lovely brick work, would love that

[sweet cloak]

I’m certain that movie was watched many times as a source

[scarlet monolith]

ily guys

[timid trout]

wow where do you live

[timid trout]

I can confirm that it is a tree

[dull oar]

Honestly that's over 1 million

I'm sculpting it first, then I'll retop it to something more appropriate. Before that I'll stuff some branches into the arms then it's a case of sticking on loads twigs and leaves.

The car is 200k. Each screw and bolt is modelled

[radiant belfry]

i sure hope we can use rtxio, we'll need it 😛

[sweet cloak]

A city with lots of italianate facades

[dull oar]

I was away for only a couple days and some sod set fire to my car!

work in progress 😛 aint touched the chrome or tyres yet

[slate plank]

@dull oar FYI We have reenabled Opacity Micromaps (OMMs) by default. I know you had a crash repro in CoD2 multiplayer a while back but we have made numerous stability improvements to the feature since then that hopefully address that crash as well. Anyway, keep an eye on any new crashes and let me know if you find it to be due OMMs.

[dull oar]

Oh spot on, will do peter

And thank you

[mystic juniper]

On the latest build, there are some minor tweaks to the terrain engine (now textures marked as "ignore" should not be blended on top of the terrain; game's lightmaps are an example), might be worth trying to use a terrain instead of decals to see what other problematic cases may be there

[dull oar]

I'll give that a go as well, thank you sultim 🙂 it's all going on today ain't it!

[dull oar]

it's not looking very good compared to using decals, it changes colour and I loose most reflection detail even after turning on the option to include secondary PBR maps. lightmaps dont appear in the texture capture list in call of duty so i cant mark them as ignore either so I get shadows in my terrain 😦

updated to latest just now remix bridge and dxvk

another thing my motion vectors have gone all screwy again. This was an issue once before and you fixed it around the 23/06/23 (probably this update but i'm guessing based on dates https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/5383274906)

see my meshes appear to be moving very fast all of a sudden then stop

[slate plank]

Did you update to this commit https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/commit/f5a8d7f0a8e76709e6402108cb6eea2bbbee7a51?
Do you have the rtx.sceneScale properly set? Terrain system should produce higher resolution by default than what you have. First thing is to check the rtx.sceneScale is correct since the terrain baker keys of its resolution parametrization from it. I think the default value of 1 is correct for CoD2. You can also bump up terrain baker's resolution by lowering Terrain System\Cascade Map\First Cascade Level's Half Width https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/blob/main/documentation/TerrainSystem.md

@mystic juniper can you look into "lightmaps dont appear in the texture capture list in call of duty so i cant mark them as ignore either so I get shadows in my terrain"?

[dull oar]

yep thats the one i got, i'll set the scene scale and give it another go 🙂

and cheers for the help guys ❤️

[slate plank]

Using decals in CoD2 in the end is fine if it works well, but the Decal System only approximates the game intended blending while the Terrain System fully replicates it. We'd like to know if you can get by with decal system or there are cases where the terrain system works better.

What maximum resolution are your replacement textures using? Currently we limit it to 8Kx8K by default for perf reasons. It can be adjusted via Terrain System\Material\Max Resolution

[mystic juniper]

lightmaps dont appear in the texture capture list in call of duty so i cant mark them as ignore either so I get shadows in my terrain
Hmm, let's see.. @dull oar , so the lightmap texture doesn't appear in the Game Setup -> Categorize Textures? 🤔

[dull oar]

this is every texture i get in carentan, no lightmaps (and no sky but thats another thing :P)

[dull oar]

the maximum terrain texture size i use is 4096 with only the car using 8192

[mystic juniper]

I guess, replacements are used? We don't save non-primary textures (like those lightmaps) to a USD capture, so maybe because of that they're not uploaded and not shown in the menu (for a detailed debug, might need enabling Game Setup -> Preserve discarded texture ).
Anyways how it looks with / without replacements?

[dull oar]

I'll switch that on, save and give it a reload and see if my lightmaps appear in the list

[mystic juniper]

72e5c84be95131f6 is a suspicious number 🙃

[dull oar]

I've never felt good about the number 13 personaly

I have these things, could they be lightmaps?

[mystic juniper]

Yeah, the last one seems to be a lightmap that covers each surface, should be marked as ignore

[sweet cloak]

Something that I’ve found out with Need For Speed is it’s easier sometimes to mark the nuisance textures as don’t preserve draw call in OV

[dull oar]

just uploading a video of my switching from decal to terrain and marking that texture a ignore so you can see what i'm seeing

https://youtu.be/q0xo63nKnoQ
it's processing up to hd still, will take 35 minutes apparently

oh and I forgot to say yep all these textures are using texture replacements

[mystic juniper]

This is sad 🍞

What's the name of the devmap?

[dull oar]

mp_carentan

my latest rtx.conf if that helps 🙂

[dull oar]

Is this what your seeing @summer brook in NFS?

[glass marlin]

Omg your dynamic decals genuinely look amazing

[dull oar]

Oh cheers, it's all hand made from photo photographs. Taking ages but coming together nicely ain't it

[glass marlin]

It reminds me of the dirt water in cs2

https://youtu.be/9DdVioqd3CI?si=IPeYNX0z-Njjxy-G

Do you think it’d be okay if you posted gameplay being ingame and walking around the decals?

If u can ofc

[dull oar]

https://youtu.be/Cpq5pXWN7Uc?si=8pfQLmZIfOo-gWod
It's a couple months old but they're in there 🙂

[timid trout]

lovely

[slate plank]

Thank you for sharing the video. We have some kinks to iron out. Question: was there any reason why you tagted some textures as Ignore Opacity Micromap? OMMs improve ray tracing performance and textures shouldn't be tagged as such unless there's a corner case where the system is not doing the right thing.

[summer brook]

Sort of yeah. I added a video + pics to Kim's open issue on remix github on that topic

[dull oar]

Oh it was Kim, sorry mate. Cheers for adding to Kim's bug ❤️

[dull oar]

Sorry about the late reply I was at work. So I did that because when you enable opacity micromaps you get this issue with decals where chunks of the decal will disappear in triangle shapes over the top of the surface it's rendered on.

You can see it here in the brick trim, the triangle error shape here is that's straight edge that cuts through my decal. I highlighted it in the second image.

[slate plank]

I see, yes in that case it makes sense. Are you using replacement assets for that surface? Does it repro with non-replacement assets?

[dull oar]

Great question. If I toggle off texture replacements in the enhancement tab would that work as a test?

[slate plank]

Yes, disabling Enhanced Assets or Materials should do the trick.

[dull oar]

Awesome, gonna give it a test now then

[dull oar]

Right so first thing i did was unmark all textures as opacity micromap ignore, saved and reloaded. So the good news is on latest I cant get it to happen on my replacement textures anymore, only on these bushes I had marked as legacy cutout. The first image is with micro opacity maps on and the second is with it off.

looks really good though besides that bush. All my smoke blends over my alpha cutout meshes perfectly now

[slate plank]

Thanks. So the stone wall doesn't have the sliced issue no more after a reload?

[dull oar]

spot on see. kinda wanna make sure you know how awesome this is looking cause we come here with a lot of issues back to back and might paint the wrong impression

[dull oar]

I took that image a while ago and shared it as an example of what happens with mico opacity maps on but it was a few months back. on latest I cant get that to happen anymore

this is the only issue i can see with MOM on
#1099591203768504421 message

[slate plank]

OK great. I'll file an internal ticket for the issue with cutout bushes.

[dull oar]

if you turn on MOM...wait...no nevermind

lets stick with micro opacity maps for now yea

[slate plank]

Also when you get a chance can you try the terrain system for the dirt road and grass again, save and reload and see if the baked terrain is still unstable ?

[dull oar]

will do 🙂

[mystic juniper]

Is there a way to load into a Multiplayer map from a Singleplayer mode?

[dull oar]

no sorry multipler only, having issue getting it to load?

[mystic juniper]

Yeah, Multiplayer mode is problematic; need to wait 1-4 minutes for the main menu to appear

[dull oar]

i got a fix for that one sec

[glass marlin]

@dull oar have u been able to play the cod 2 campaign?

[dull oar]

yep works great, got a video on my youtube

[glass marlin]

i wonder what he looks like

[dull oar]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2630/discussions/0/3412056228820106631/
this fixes that wait mate

[mystic juniper]

I wonder what those bits are doing

[timid trout]

I think windows xp compatibility mode fixes that

[dull oar]

I think it's just checking for microphone input. a proper cod2 modding legend found it a little while back

[sweet cloak]

Call of Duty public lobby chatter was mandatory for this game

[dull oar]

you wont be able to just change the bits in the steam exe if thats what you're using. You'll need to download the exe from the disc thats included in the steam topic. it's just the disc exe with the bits sorted out, I've been using it for ages and php is lovely 😉
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2630/discussions/0/3412056228820106631/

[dull oar]

@static tangle played around with your technique for puddles some more, it even blends with decals as part of the terrain system if you mark the terrain layers as dynamic decal. looks great 🙂

for reference for anyone else who fancies a go it's the same texture as the base cobble stone with water applied over the top (i used substance sampler, took all of 1 minute to add the filter and paint where i wanted it with the mask option) First import the terrain into blender or whatever, copy the terrain, apply the cobble stone with the water on it, cut around your puddles, delete what you dont want to be wet, lower to the ground, tuck in the edges with some cuts.

[timid trout]

@dull oar How is the acog?

does it work

[dull oar]

invisible so far, checking whats wrong. looks like i added it to an intance like a plonker

oh snap its cool man

let me get you a video

[radiant belfry]

looking great

[timid trout]

It doesn't function in bf1942

I mean it barely magnifies anything

yet it should be 4x

[radiant belfry]

i know it shouldn't be related, but could it be due to scene scale or something odd like that?

[timid trout]

I have no idea, I think it should be ok as long as the scale of the lenses and their distances are correct

[dull oar]

I've scaled this uniformly so not to mess with your positions @timid trout

call of duty has a seperate camera for the zoom so i cant slap it on my sniper rifle

[timid trout]

Weird, distortions are different on this

[radiant belfry]

do you have an example of how it is in 1942?

[timid trout]

Uhm you are looking the wrong direction

the other way around

[dull oar]

might be whats kims saying about scene scale. i'm using 1 and call of duty is 1 meter = 1 unit

oh lol

[timid trout]

#1102927658762895390 message
Here

[radiant belfry]

that looks a lot less disorienting, lol

[dull oar]

cant tell one end of a gun from another 😛

[radiant belfry]

honestly i have no idea though, sorry

[timid trout]

Yeah I gotta remake the smaller lenses, they might be faulty

#1102927658762895390 message
Video showing how it looks in BF1942

[dull oar]

having a time getting a good position for it to line up

[timid trout]

Use the debug camera

don't forget to adjust its speed

[dull oar]

oh yea duh, one sec

[radiant belfry]

i'd love to implement this technique in the future in Skyrim

[dull oar]

bloody obs recording discord for some reason over and over again. sorry about the wait

[timid trout]

Yea it is faulty.

I don't get which part tho

[dull oar]

looks so damn cool though honestly 😛

[slate plank]

Are those textures tagged as terrain textures, or just as decals?

[static tangle]

does the ior of the glass material match real glass's ior?

[timid trout]

1.5

I double checked the positioning of lenses so the only thing left is the lenses themselves

I probably messed up something

[dull oar]

just decals, means i can slot me puddles under the upper layers of the terrain and get a blend of wet dirt and straw 😛 such a cool lil hack

[static tangle]

it's clearly distoring the rays... does it work for magnification inside of USD Composer?

[timid trout]

Yes it does, it does in game too - if you scale it to 100m or something

The scale shouldn't matter tho, as long as each axis has the same multiplier

[static tangle]

maybe you're too far away from it? not really sure

[timid trout]

Probably not, the 8x telescope I made earlier might have a lower amount of magnification too. This one is extremely subtle

Also the image doesn't get blurry when it is out of focus like irl

Not in ov nor the game

[timid trout]

Basically you can have infinite mag with a single lens

[dull oar]

this is wild i'm doing not this a realtime

[static tangle]

hmm, maybe due to the denoiser?

[sweet cloak]

Refence mode ?

[static tangle]

blurry images actually need a lot more samples than clear ones, and the denoisers are all set up for making things clear

I'm just theorizing tho

[timid trout]

I can't wrap my head around all of these 😅

[dull oar]

maybe, the zooms very subtle

[sweet cloak]

Telescope simulator when?

[timid trout]

I had my hands on a real acog once, definetely has more magnification than this

[timid trout]

I will try making a reflector telescope after figuring out the issue here

[sweet cloak]

Is the issue that it doesn't magnify enough?

[timid trout]

Almost none

[sweet cloak]

Hmm

[dull oar]

reference mode with lower fov

[timid trout]

#1102927658762895390 message
The width of outgoing rays is 1/4 of incoming ones

[static tangle]

what happens when you get the camera much closer to the lens?

[sweet cloak]

Does a basic magnifying glass work by chance?

[timid trout]

It works too well. Never gets out of focus

the image

You get infinite magnification as you get closer to the focal point

[dull oar]

getting closer to the lenses

[sweet cloak]

Hm.. Have you tried using two of them on top of each other to see if there isn't something being chopped when passing through multiple lenes?

Or am I behind in the lenes testing?

[static tangle]

looks magnified at this point:

every real life optic has an ideal eyebox that you're supposed to look at it from to get the correct effect. You should figure out what the correct eye box is for this scope

due to the "doesn't get blurry" aspect, the eye box may seem a lot larger than it's supposed to be.

[dull oar]

ah yea good point, you'd see it as out of focus and would move closer but cause its sharp we're thinking something else is going on

[static tangle]

https://www.badassoptic.com/what-is-optic-eye-box/ decent explanation, looks like.

we're apparently not getting the exact effect correct, might be interesting to dig into exactly why

It should look more like this,

[dull oar]

must be the bend in one of the lenses

[static tangle]

It could also be RT specific stuff like importance sampling and denoising.

[sweet cloak]

Try with an IOR above 1.75

[dull oar]

sure

[sweet cloak]

That'd be some very high quality glass that would let it be really thin

[dull oar]

1.8 ior

[sweet cloak]

@timid trout can you walk through your lens setup?

[sweet cloak]

@dull oar if you're feeling like doing some modeling, if you orbit these shapes around their centerline, it should make a zoom lens.

The closer the middle lens is to the front lens, the more it zooms

[dull oar]

alright lets give this a shot

so a radial sweep

[sweet cloak]

Yea around the yellow line or the center point of the shapes if you can get them

[dull oar]

perfect, on it

any chance i get get this in DXF format? max cant import SVG

[sweet cloak]

Yea gimmie a second

[glass marlin]

I mean there is a ton of ghosting on the scope so idk if it’ll be that useful in gameplay

I hope all goes well tho

[dull oar]

just a bit of fun honestly

[glass marlin]

Do u think you can reduce the ghosting with changing the scope a bit and changing the denoiser settings?

[dull oar]

yea maybe, its all tweakable aint it

[sweet cloak]

How about FBX since Autodesk doesn't seem to like SVGs in any of their viewers

[dull oar]

ah perfect, ta

[glass marlin]

Do you think the ray reconstruction will reduce the ghosting overall?

[slate plank]

There's quite a bit of ghosting which we are aware of for this type of scenario. But it would be helpful to see how this looks in an in-game scenario when the scope moves and rotates with the camera since that scenario is much more applicable to a regular gameplay.

[dull oar]

sure i'll slap it on a rifle and see whats what 🙂

[sweet cloak]

Need to find a DX9 laser table software

Or turn a game into one

[slate plank]

If you manage to get that done, can you share a recording of a case when you're running Remix at some reasonable FPS (i.e. 40-80) for best evaluation how it looks in game play? You can adjust resolution or DLSS preset to adjust FPS. Make sure to use ultra graphics preset.

[dull oar]

will do, just about to test as a prop to see if it works first they i'll attach to my m1 🙂

you wont believe it

[sweet cloak]

[dull oar]

it only bloody works

i pass through the first lens at the end cause its also kinda cool

[static tangle]

nice! what did you change?

[sweet cloak]

[dull oar]

followed adams instructions honestly 😛

[static tangle]

so it was an issue with the lens shape / layout?

[sweet cloak]

I don't think @timid trout had the optical shapes dialed in. No fault to them though, it's not a simple subject.

[static tangle]

(also, kinda hilarious that the lack of a head means you get to see behind you, instead of just blackness)

[dull oar]

keep getting reflections in car window, i'm just arms and a gun!

i'll add a mesh behind the lens for to simulate a head

[sweet cloak]

https://phydemo.app/ray-optics/simulator/ Here's the little web app that we both used to get the layout

[dull oar]

and fbx for anyone who wants it. I've included the IOR into the mesh names so its easier to assign a material

[sweet cloak]

Now we get to figure out the fun part of putting a reticle in the scope

[dull oar]

where would it go in the real scope?

[sweet cloak]

To be honest, don't really know in an acog scope. In a regular rifle scope it's at on one of the focal plane lenes.

[dull oar]

middle seems about right 😛

[sweet cloak]

Nope

[dull oar]

middle lens i meant

[sweet cloak]

Oh for our zoom lens?

My bad

[dull oar]

i have no idea mate you're the puppet master here

[sweet cloak]

Our simple zoom lens has no focal point so it can't have it have it in the traditional spot

[dull oar]

also how did @timid trout pack all his models into one usda model? i've had to do it all seperatly on a single prop 😦

[limber otter]

Huh

[limber otter]

And this here. This is when strelok had the idea to use rtx remix to cheat in games

[dull oar]

you can just set everything to ignore and see through everything 😛

you can put ray tracing lights on the enemies heads

need to ask kamilkampfwagen tomorrow about how to attach all these scope bits into one usda file before i can put this on a gun @slate plank think this is the best we'll get until tomorrow

i added a big box behind the camera to block the light

[radiant belfry]

i like the idea of being able to see an enemy behind you in the scope's reflection 😛

i don't mean while scoped in, just while running about

[dull oar]

i'll put a wing mirror on the gun for ya lol

[dull oar]

fixed that for ya mate

[static tangle]

that got a snort and a laugh out of me 😛

[dull oar]

lol nice, right off to bed, laters all

[timid trout]

I wasn't expecting this at all 😄

[timid trout]

Where did you found this 👀

Mine look like this

[timid trout]

So magnification is -Fo / Fe: I calculate the focal lenghts I need to get that magnification which also must fit into the body by length (I am using the same lens for both the inverter and the eyepiece so I the simple formula of magnification is still valid)
Test the setup using https://phydemo.app/ray-optics/simulator/: If the witdh of output beam is 1 / (magnification level) of incoming rays, it is correct
I get the radius of curvature of the lenses I need to make: https://www.123calculus.com/en/lens-maker-equation-page-8-40-400.html: All lenses have an ior of 1.5
I create a sphere with that radius, depending on the shape I either use intersect or difference for the boolean operator.
Place the lenses accordingly

I do the calculations for ideal lenses but in this case it shouldn't matter much.

[timid trout]

It either goes to 2 or 4, the intersecting focal points

But your lens setup is little bit different

[timid trout]

I put everything inside another Xform manually after exporting from the blender

using a text editor

[timid trout]

😦 I wish I was listening to optics in physics class. I can only make simple lenses, convex biconvex etc

[dull oar]

I've attached the fbx model I used here if your like a go.
#1099591203768504421 message

I added everything as an xform with a reference and saved as USDA but it would load in game ☹️

Create xform, add reference til I added everything and saved the scene as USDA but no good

[timid trout]

So what is the magnification for this

[dull oar]

I'm not sure, does it say on the SVG
#1099591203768504421 message

(won't open on my phone)

[timid trout]

Like this?

#usda 1.0
(
    defaultPrim = "RootNode"
    doc = "Blender v3.6.2"
    metersPerUnit = 1
    upAxis = "Z"
)
def Xform "RootNode"
{
    all that stuff blender exports except the #usda 1.0 (...)
}

[dull oar]

I can't remember. I might take your acog and swap the references to these new lenses. That should work

You have to have different ior for each piece of glass

[timid trout]

Why?

[dull oar]

One for Adam that mate

[sweet cloak]

I’m not quite sure on how the sphere thing works out, seems like a short hand method of making the lens? I’ve never done it that way

[sweet cloak]

IOR adjusts how the light focuses in the lens

[timid trout]

I know but why I need them to be different. Glass is 1.5 so that would be cheating wouln't be

[sweet cloak]

Typical glass is 1.5. When dealing with optics, you do a bunch of fun stuff to it to change the IOR.

[timid trout]

But it should be totaly possible with just a single type of material

[timid trout]

Where did you this, is there other types

[sweet cloak]

On the website I posted, it was an example one

[timid trout]

Hmm. I was using that website for long tho I couldn't found that example scene in the gallery

[timid trout]

Is there anything I am doing wrong

[timid trout]

Just a boolean operator to combine / subtract shapes from others

[sweet cloak]

No I meant as in how that works out with physics.

[timid trout]

Oh, simple lenses are just a cut part of a sphere(s combined) with a defined radius

[timid trout]

Like this

[timid trout]

That hurts 😦

I have the diagram of acog here. To get actual lengths divide it by 80, each square is 20 units
https://phydemo.app/ray-optics/simulator/#XQAAAALPAwAAAAAAAABEqcrGU8hqLFnplfssnTFrVyjTHFiP9Y348FrinKNdt-77GpNkdE39fEnh-R7BCMhCJCwr8D95OXFEUKRJ2xpMckJk7D8q-Ss9jkaPXXXbxwTz6rVjJGj7JdUyjuPiJubOVYfOJ6ks9ocQ336q1miu0NLHyG-bJQeGNwhSeEygh-TxfFN_jE-HMB6Q1WtMs7FZiGz2mP6_I9_8lxJz9f9MVK287obDtVdTT1_ihaz6egy99OOzGyld2YmwCLJrgr-ffBQhW8GhAVXCL7J937j5OMz6_c7ljlnEMF-IrVvuavGrzN0I9gbjxhDedwHCi5jzVRXQEUYJUOfGVZ7no6GS-tMjNSAih6AGS0ZUN8rmWhnYRPNSch-hJW6uwXYBE5VpsAkzKEkOggJghDApU4-HjzScUIfwCzBA0MxU7G2tjfwpz33Y1QbU6Qg1h9sBmHX3qVO0CdH_8AmCcg

[sweet cloak]

I didn’t mean in it a mean way, sorry if it came across like that

[timid trout]

Nah, I mean I thought I could get away with simple lenses since there is no caustics no artifacts that complex lens structures are supposed to overcome

[sweet cloak]

Ideal lenses like the setup you have don’t do much besides focus light. So you’re not getting any magnification I think.

[sweet cloak]

Too bad we don’t have full spectrum rending, we can’t make a kaleidoscope.

[timid trout]

and rainbows

Magnification is just focusing the image to a smaller fov, so it must be possible with ideal lenses too. I think Mark's statement applies here:

every real life optic has an ideal eyebox that you're supposed to look at it from to get the correct effect.  You should figure out what the correct eye box is for this scope
due to the "doesn't get blurry" aspect, the eye box may seem a lot larger than it's supposed to be.

I made the 8x telescope (still not sure if it is actually 8x but definetely magnifies) with the exact same method

Tho when I put it in the gun it was behaving differently, I just realized that view model correction is squishing it with this new one

[timid trout]

Mine aren't ideal either, they are pretty thick compared to their irl counterparts actually

[timid trout]

Because when I make it way bigger I can see the magnification (still doesn't look like 4x but) since I have a wider room for the eyebox

This video shows it #1102927658762895390 message

[sweet cloak]

Yeah your focal distances must be getting thrown off then.

[timid trout]

with the giant scope I get this effect too

so the path tracer & denoiser aren't lacking anything besides dof

[sweet cloak]

I’m not an optical engineer, so I can only help ya so much here. In my mind I’d suggest modeling the lenses, without using the ideal lens shape, in that simulator and then just radial sweeping them for the game.

I don’t trust myself with figuring out all the lens equations

[timid trout]

Ideal lenses are considered as infinitely thin, tho modelling from the diagram is a great idea

(which I've never done before)

[sweet cloak]

If you’re using blender, you can export the sim to SVG and just use the shapes directly

Ez

[sweet cloak]

I will say, since we don’t get the imperfections, and focus issues with lenses, it is hard to tell what’s wrong

[warm lagoon]

a

[limber otter]

Just simulate depth of field

We had ray traced depth of field and motion blur in Minecraft's better rtx mod

[timid trout]

https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1151136396376014938

[slate plank]

Can you share your latest mp config and rtx.conf and any other things needed to be done to repro this? Thanks

[dull oar]

no problemo 🙂 extract main.zip here D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Call of Duty 2\main after you enter a map press F2 and it applies all this at once. none of this affect the bug but makes the game look good so why not 😉

seta r_smc_enable "0"
seta r_portalFineCull "0"
seta r_fog "0"
seta r_lodbias "-1000"
seta r_lodScale "1"
seta r_forcelod "0"
seta r_zfar "10000000"
seta r_znear "16"

and i forgot the attachments lol

[sweet cloak]

Okay, I think I need to setup a test scene in blender to work on these scopes.

Not exactly the scope we were looking for but more of a proof of concept

Here's the JSON of it that can be opened in the simulator

[sweet cloak]

Note: that one didn’t work out. Had to redo it to get the one I posted in optics.

[slate plank]

This is because the geometry hashes are not stable. Is it possible to stabilize the hashes?

[sweet cloak]

Might need to patch your exe. The hashes are stable when using that with tadpoles commands

[slate plank]

Do you mean this post or something else? #1099591203768504421 message

[warm lagoon]

i think this

[slate plank]

I meant the "patch your exe" reference which is not covered by that post

[sweet cloak]

Something else. I have a binary patch for the exes that disables frustum culling.

https://github.com/adamplayer/CallOfDuty2RTX/tree/main

[slate plank]

@dull oar were you using the patched exe with disabled culling when you reproduced the OMM issue for bushes?

[sweet cloak]

The patched exe is the way it’s meant to be played(tm)

[warm lagoon]

was this added recently?

[sweet cloak]

Uh I haven’t touched the repo in months

I did make it overdraw tho

[slate plank]

How is the patch applied, just drop into the game's root?

[sweet cloak]

https://bbbradsmith.github.io/ipstool/

I can provide the plain text patch, as in the values that change, that can be applied with x86dbg if needed.

Or you can view the ips file with a hex editor I think

I know patching an exe is an IT departments nightmare so I’ll give ya whatever ya need

[slate plank]

Let's confirm this first as the unstable hashes look to be the issue.

[dull oar]

Oh forgot that's not default. Yep I'm using lock pvs to stabilise the hashes

[slate plank]

Are the geometry hashes shown in debug view for those bushes stable when you do see the issue with incorrect OMM cutouts?

[dull oar]

I'll double check but I'm sure everything is 100% stable post patch.

there is a point where the geo is unstable until i enter the command r_portalFineCull "0" it's the first thing i do after i enter the map and the hashes change after that

here i load into a map, open remix, turn on debug, exit remix and use a hot key to enter the command r_portalFineCull "0" which stablizes the map. I guess that change in mesh hashes is the issue @slate plank

[slate plank]

Does the OMM cutout issue still repro after you stabilize the hashes with the above command and reset OMMs via toggling Pathtracing \ Opacity Micromap \ Enable Opacity Micromap off and on? Give it 10s to regen the OMMs after you reenable it

[dull oar]

lets see

[slate plank]

Also if you see the issue please double check whether the geometry hashes are shown to be stable in their debug view

[dull oar]

looks perfect so far but i'm going to play a couple rounds first before I say for certian.

you have the patience of a saint, cheers for sticking with me

[dull oar]

yea its spot on peter, had a few rounds and havent seen it the whole time 🙂 thank you

if we can find a way to turn on portalfinecull before entering a devmap we would be fine. the cheat protection doesnt let us do it 😦

[slate plank]

Great. Let me know if disabling prior to entering the map is not doable.

[mystic juniper]

Minor: noticed the usage of Game Setup -> Step 2: Parameter Tuning -> Sky Tuning -> Sky Auto-Detect, it can be disabled if it doesn't have the effect, as it introduces a CPU overhead.
Also, to not have shadows from a first-person weapon: #1099591203768504421 message

[dull oar]

oh sweet thank you sultim 🙂

[cerulean mica]

@dull oar feel free to use improved HUD icons, cursor and fonts from my SP mod if you think they are suitable for your CoD2 RTX Remix project.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/letlev-edition
I'm planning to restructure the mod files in v1.2 to provide better compatibility with third-party mods and CoD2 retail version, but the textures will remain the same as in 1.1.

[cerulean mica]

Also use r_polygonOffsetBias "0" to fix display of overlapping parts of models

[cerulean mica]

You may also want to replace rect -128 0 896 480 with rect -106.8 0 853.5 480 in ui_mp/background.menu and ui_mp/connect.menu to fix the aspect ratio for background images. This solution works in both SP and MP, but requires adjusting the position of loading bar in MP.

[warm lagoon]

we can probably just paste a reference path traced image of this exact position. Do you know how to replace this loading screen with a newer one?

[dull oar]

I've had a play with this, I think remix takes over with its own offset and does t do anything. I'll try agai. And set it something huge and check again though 🙂 thank you

[dull oar]

Oh wicked, thank you! that's what's really letting down the presentation in gameplay with the original tiny UI textures

And the portalfinecull command just fixed my opacity micro map bug. So thank you again

If you want to play along yourself you just need these files
#1099591203768504421 message

It won't have my fancy textures but I need to double check the licensing on a couple to be safe before I upload. Ideally I'd only upload when it's done though as to not have work in progress stuff floating around

[dull oar]

this worked a treat, would it be ok if i add to the .menu files here? this is the last of the commands I need to have the hashes be stable and for remix to work its best. I've set them myself and it's working, just wondering if it might have some issues later down the line

setdvar r_portalFineCull "0";
setdvar r_smc_enable "0";
setdvar r_forcelod "0";
setdvar r_lodbias "-1000";

now the real question, how do we set this to work online? We could all join a server with remix installed, modders vs Nvidia or something 😛

[timid trout]

I loved how frag grenade icons are switched to potatos for that specific mission

[timid trout]

What exactly do you mean? Like opening a public server?

[dull oar]

nah just join a random one online with the map carentan

chuck in a map vote and it's carentan forever

[timid trout]

Then ignore every texture except for player models

add lights to players

[dull oar]

lol oh yea, perfect

[dull oar]

problem with this is when you leave a map and go back the lod distance is all messed up, almost all things disapear right in front of you

well maprestart has the issue, going back to the main menu and back in appears fine

[cerulean mica]

I think there won't be any problems, but I haven't had many tests in MP

[cerulean mica]

and there is an extra charm in adding damage and the possibility of picking up thrown potatoes in LE mod

[cerulean mica]

This LOD distance issue happens to me in SP after I load a save file containing r_forcelod "0", for this reason I do not use it in LE mod

[dull oar]

what if you force a very low lod? like 3

we need it static or when the lod changes our mesh replacements change back to the old models

[cerulean mica]

and here's what I meant by this message

[cerulean mica]

I think you can really use this value to bypass the internal logic of drawing models but more checks are needed

[dull oar]

ah i see

wonder what controls the limit on models we're seeing here then

oh i installed your mod, its great mate, loads better

[cerulean mica]

I've never tested it with MP 😄

[dull oar]

actually using the compass now

oh i meant in single player

do you have an rtx graphics cards to play with us?

[cerulean mica]

I suppose this is an engine limitation of the max number of triangles, in CoD4 and newer games there are not so strict limits. I can't get around this by changing the NVIDIA profile settings

[cerulean mica]

Unfortunately, no. I'm stuck on GTX

[dull oar]

damn, the entry level cards are fairly decent, you'll get a good 30fps at 1080p with medium settings.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gainward-geforce-rtx-3050-ghost-lhr-8192mb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-20r-gw.html

[glass marlin]

What’s the mod about?

[glass marlin]

Also no way is 8 gigs of vram enough like come on

They can afford to up the vram and keep a similar price right?

[dull oar]

lol rtx has a scaler for texture size in the settings, i'm on a 4070 and its fiiiiiine

[dull oar]

#1099591203768504421 message

i uploaded my rtx config a few days ago btw @glass marlin if you wanna have a go

aint got my textures though

only done about half of Carentan, going out in 30 mins to get some lovely cobble road textures and dead grass

[glass marlin]

Wdym?

[glass marlin]

Ah shit that exists? Thanks, might help with my vram not slowly maxing out before the game stutters and freezes

[dull oar]

guess 8 gig isnt ideal

but i'm using 8k textures sooooo who knows

[glass marlin]

I only have 6 gigs of vram…

[glass marlin]

Holy shit I thought 4K was enough already

[dull oar]

https://tenor.com/view/bullshit-this-is-bullshit-bs-load-of-barnacles-spongebob-gif-15128536

[glass marlin]

Nah I genuinely only have 6 gigs of vram

[dull oar]

the photorealism lies in the 7th k

[glass marlin]

Then make it at least 7k

How much space do the textures take up?

Sry if I’m being harsh, I’m just in a really bad and stressful mood

[dull oar]

2gb

oh i just gotta save at half res, no bother, would take an hour

10 minutes with something like chainner

we'll squeeze it onto your card mate dont you worry 🙂

[glass marlin]

I mean like in storage sry

[dull oar]

yea 2gb folder on the hard drive

was wondering where i put my head

no idea what that is 😛

[glass marlin]

Ah ok askin cause portal rtx takes up like 20 gigs like wow

[dull oar]

whole game though aint it, we got this, i can half that memory usage i'm sure

do you have the game?

[glass marlin]

Nah I don’t have cod 2

[dull oar]

just install remix and plop my rtx.config file into it

[glass marlin]

Tho I should get it since it’s on sale lol

[timid trout]

You sure its not Mark's profile picture you put behind the scope?

[dull oar]

lol oh yea that'll be it

[glass marlin]

How do I install rtx remix?

On cod 2

Sry for askin so many questions

I hope I’m not being annoying

[dull oar]

nah

we got an autoupdater, no sure how it works though

[glass marlin]

Can I just download rtx remix and the artifacts separately?

[dull oar]

download this, you need a github account
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/releases/download/remix-0.2.0/remix-0.2.0.zip

[glass marlin]

I don’t feel comfortable installing a random exe

[dull oar]

extract it in the root of your cod folder

its the official nvidia github your fine

[glass marlin]

Nah I mean like the auto updater

[dull oar]

fair enough

manually is easy enough

its just rune didnt want to answer another "bruh 💀 cant update?" message i think 😛

after you install 2.0 release i posted above
#1099591203768504421 message

download this, extract it to the root of cod2 folder, overwrite what it wants to overwrite
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/bridge-remix/actions/runs/6099434198

then download this and extract it to the "trex" folder
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/6179061052

so easy even an artist could do it

[glass marlin]

Oh trust me my dumbass will get smth wrong lol

Btw I wanna ask have ya been able to get this working in like cod 4?

[dull oar]

nah no camera found, its cod2 for now

thats the death message "no camera found"

see

[glass marlin]

So maybe it’s still sorta working? It just can’t find a camera

Idk

@dull oar how does captain price look like in cod 2?

[warm lagoon]

camera is like your weapon, you shoot rays through it

now imagine having no camera

[dull oar]

daft, characters are aweful, i tried to make a solider but the model and UV's suck

[glass marlin]

Uhhhh I’d go look for the camera duhhh?

[dull oar]

have to wait on mark to make cpu skinned character replacements a thing

[warm lagoon]

ray tracing requires a camera is what im trying to say, without cameras, it just won't work

That's why its called reverse path tracing

[glass marlin]

Ya ik ik, I just wanted to have some fun sry lol

[warm lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/hollyweencandy-cat-cat-drink-milk-cat-eating-cat-drinking-gif-16978701194275077898

[glass marlin]

@dull oar what settings should i use?

[limber otter]

How dare you reduce the number of corpses to tiny!!!

[glass marlin]

idk so my pc doesn't die trying to render so much stuff in remix?

[limber otter]

It shouldn't

:3

[glass marlin]

i only have 6 gigs of vram on a mobile gpu...

[limber otter]

Dw it shouldn't hurt performance

Nor vram usage

[dull oar]

Use my config file mate. It's all saved in there

[glass marlin]

can u send the message link?

[dull oar]

Can't find it, one sec I'll upload it

it goes here
D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Call of Duty 2\main\players\USERNAME

copy and paste it and rename it to config_mp.cfg for multiplayer

[glass marlin]

there's stuff like this tho?

can i just copy paste some bits into my config?

[glass marlin]

@dull oar should i mess with this?

[dull oar]

lets get it running first

your gpu will switch once you load the game

[glass marlin]

Should I load into mp or singleplayer?

Since mp has a massive problem of people being able to remote execute code due to how old the game is

[warm lagoon]

lets do a peer to peer MP match

[glass marlin]

(And activision won’t update or patch it)

[dull oar]

try multiplayer, spawn a map with the console command devmap mp_carentan

you can also go online but stuff happens

[glass marlin]

like meanies remote executing code

[dull oar]

all maps share the same lighting i'm afraid

like unstable hashes limiting your mesh replacements but as you dont have any should be fine thinking about it

[glass marlin]

It was honestly jarring seeing cod 2 have the same exact console as cod bo3

A game that’s over like 10 years apart

Insane how old the cod engine is

[dull oar]

its why latest cod is hacked day 1

[glass marlin]

Iirc cod games that use the mw19/unified cod engine don’t get affected by stuff like getting booted off the game or having code remote executed

Like in cod mw19, cod vanguard and cod mw2

While games like cod Cold War

That use the treyarch branch of the cod engine which was basically built off of cod bo4 due to treyarch being rushed to make a new game during covid

Still uses that old branch of the cod engine

With all the security issues

Which is why people can get booted off the game

It’s why Cold War feels alot different and in some cases worse than mw19

It was rushed during covid due to sledgehammer basically fighting with raven while making the cod 2020 game so sledgehammer was removed and treyarch became the new lead development team

And again it uses an older less advanced version of the cod engine in comparison to the mw19 engine

Which vanguard uses

And is why is feels alot more like an mw19 reskin

While cod Cold War felt like it’s own thing even tho it tried to copy the style of mw19

Sry for saying so much

Apologies

[dull oar]

oh right yea makes sense. ww2 has been my favourite of the latest games

[glass marlin]

Cod mw22, warzone and warzone mobile all use the new unified cod engine

Which iirc is what all cod games is gonna use from now on

@dull oar should i place remix here?

[dull oar]

yep thats the spot

[glass marlin]

which should i install?

[dull oar]

have you got 2.0 release first?

[glass marlin]

ya i got remix 0.2

[dull oar]

so now you need the bottom one

[glass marlin]

same with dxvk?

[dull oar]

yep and that goes into the trex folder

[glass marlin]

should i leave this? the readme mentions nothing of it so ya

[dull oar]

drag it all mate

[glass marlin]

is that what u do?

[dull oar]

yep

[glass marlin]

@dull oar should i keep this next to the games exe or do i place it in trex

since the readme mentions to not place it next to the exe for x86

[dull oar]

yea in the main folder

you can just drag the whole lot and pop it next to the exe and everything from dxvk goes into trex

[glass marlin]

okay what should i do with the rtx config?

[dull oar]

next to exe

[glass marlin]

where can i get the config?

[dull oar]

#1099591203768504421 message

[glass marlin]

wouldn't it break due to us having different gpus + me not having the replacements?

[dull oar]

nope

[glass marlin]

okay what else should i do now?

[dull oar]

boot it up dood

[glass marlin]

@dull oar oh shit it worked

also this is how much vram i have

[dull oar]

congrats man 🙂

[glass marlin]

@dull oar how do i disable and enable path tracing ingame?

or is that only in the debug build?

[dull oar]

yea

or just tag the white square in the textures as UI

[dull oar]

the quiet 15 mins where your playing 😛

having fun mate?

[glass marlin]

potato

alot of disappearing stuff

• culling

[dull oar]

oh i got a fix, one sec

put this
#1099591203768504421 message
here
D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Call of Duty 2\main
and rename the zip to iw_16.iwd

[worldly river]

As someone who owns a 3050, please do not ever buy a 3050

[glass marlin]

actually uh, i think ill stick with the culling

(i dont like downloading random files lol)

[dull oar]

it's a menu to trigger r_portalfinecull "0" without bothering cheat protection

you can just open the console and type that in though

[glass marlin]

stuff still culls tho

should i do /r_portalfinecull 0?

it seems like no commands work in the console

noclip doesn't work or nothin

[warm lagoon]

💀

Is it bad?

[worldly river]

Yes

[dull oar]

cheat protection

enter the level with spdevmap levelname spdevmap eldaba for example

https://tenor.com/view/come-on-come-to-me-i-got-you-austin-powers-dr-evil-gif-22424600

or download the zip

[glass marlin]

not even in singleplayer?

[dull oar]

yep

[glass marlin]

then whats the point of giving the option to enable console?

[dull oar]

some stuff isnt cheating

map_restart for example or quit is a useful one

[glass marlin]

stuff still culls :(

and commands dont work still

[dull oar]

download the zip

should be able to just do this though even without the zip

[glass marlin]

can i just edit the files on my own?

[timid trout]

OBS recording detected (mkv)

[dull oar]

yea wrong one

its me dancing to abba in the buff

[dull oar]

dude come on i dont want to walk you though it, its a bunch of menu files just download it

[glass marlin]

im sorry im sorry

[glass marlin]

@dull oar so i just download this?

[dull oar]

#1099591203768504421 message

[glass marlin]

so i just pop it into main?

[dull oar]

yep and rename to iw_16.iwd

[glass marlin]

what does the file do exactly?

[dull oar]

adds portalnocull

its the same as base but with the line "portalnocull" in places

[glass marlin]

still culls

and commands still dont work so ya

[dull oar]

could you open debug and record a video

with mesh hashes please

[dull oar]

where did you put that zip?

[glass marlin]

main like u said

[dull oar]

try multiplayer

devmap mp_carentan

[sweet cloak]

Sp is a tough one. Only MP works for sure.

[dull oar]

i have no idea how badly its culling

[glass marlin]

mp keeps running in fullscreen even when i edit the config to not run in fullscreen :(

[dull oar]

yea its a bug

[sweet cloak]

Yea it do that. I think I use the bridge config to make it windowed.

[dull oar]

i set it to my monitor res of 1920 by 1200 and its always windowed 😛

[glass marlin]

its weird uh, alot doesn't cull but some do

aaaaand my game froze great

[dull oar]

switching around can do that

[sweet cloak]

Oh yea it only works on one map per game instance(?).

[glass marlin]

ik this sounds dumb but how do i know if the file i downloaded doesn't exploit some security issue in this almost 20 year old game to try execute code through the game?

sry im just tryin to be safe

[sweet cloak]

You can run it through virus total yourself if you’d like.

[glass marlin]

i did and it came back clean but considering it'd prob use an obscure exploit in an old shooter game i doubt it'd detect much

[dull oar]

yep its got you now mate

we hack through rtx remix

[sweet cloak]

Why would someone that can do those kind of exploits be hanging out here?

[glass marlin]

look man im sorry

i have horrible paranoia and anxiety issues and its why i dont usually mess with stuff like this

even when i really wanna

[dull oar]

just open the menu files in notepad

its plain text

[glass marlin]

yup

[dull oar]

iwd files are zip folders

extract the files to your desktop and open the menu files in notepad

[glass marlin]

okay ty

i apologize if i've been annoying

[dull oar]

anxiety is a hell of a thing, no worries

[glass marlin]

thx for helping with this

as i was saying for some reason smth culls

even when everything else doesn't cull

[dull oar]

can you share a video of you entering a map please?

[glass marlin]

game crashed again lol

[dull oar]

remix does that

could you show me a video of how you get into that map please? from the main menu

[glass marlin]

i just entered with devmap mp_carentan

[sweet cloak]

Did you press f2?

[glass marlin]

honestly do not remember, idk why i would

[dull oar]

i didnt give him the autoexec

[sweet cloak]

Ohhh

Oh right it’s in the iwd file now

[dull oar]

trying out the new iwd file

yea

[glass marlin]

||is it okay if u dont refer to me by a dude, sry it makes me feel uncomfortable, could you use she/they if thats okay? sry i just dont like being referred to as a dude||

[dull oar]

pop this into main, press f2 when your in game

before you ask its just some commands

when you get a sec @sweet cloak could you try this iwd?

[sweet cloak]

Sure 👍

[dull oar]

I added
setdvar r_portalFineCull "0";
setdvar r_smc_enable "0";
setdvar r_forcelod "0";
setdvar r_lodbias "-1000";

[glass marlin]

sadly f2 does nothing + autoexec seems to do nothing

placed in main btw

[dull oar]

one sec let me see whats what

oh fuck

open console with shift and console button

its the expanded console

then do r_portalfinecull 0

and screenshot what it says

forgot about that

[glass marlin]

just this

[dull oar]

can i see the whole thing please?

wanna see other messages

[glass marlin]

ima open the game again wait

sry closed it

also this is a thing lol

[dull oar]

omm, one thing at a time

opacity micro maps (omm)

[glass marlin]

even after enabling sv_cheats and enabling the anti culling

stuff still culls

its weird

[dull oar]

well now you gotta patch your exe

but the fact it says "is read only" means cheats isnt working

thats the root of your issue

you cant run the commands

[glass marlin]

can i stop for now?

[dull oar]

yea no worries

you need to turn on cheats though

whe you come back

[glass marlin]

@dull oar did u encounter any of the issues i went through?

[dull oar]

no i turned off cheat protection

[dull oar]

fina-fucking-ly finished this car model, time to unwrap and colour in with substance painter

https://tenor.com/view/future-squidward-spongebob-gif-4767609

250,000 polys.

[sweet cloak]

Chess titans has proved that we can just dump as many polys as we want

[dull oar]

well thats good cause i refuse to stop

[cerulean mica]

btw WWII, MWR and MW2CR are based on an enhanced AW engine, which featured significantly better lighting and PBR

[cerulean mica]

interesting fact: in CoD5 there is an unused potato model intended for mp_vodka (soviet factory map) from map pack 3

[sweet cloak]

IWD file works

[dull oar]

oh nice one cheers @sweet cloak

and thank you @cerulean mica its perfect 🙂 just what we needed

[cerulean mica]

I'm so glad that worked

[dull oar]

Need a way to make them work in a non dev map next if you got something

We can play online after that. I've emailed the website I get my photo textures from and if they're ok with it I'll upload my mod for you guys to much around with 🙂 (once I'm done with a map)

[cerulean mica]

the explanation is simpler: this .iwd contains changes only for mp menus, but I made it based on what works in sp

[cerulean mica]

try also adding commands from F2 macro in .menu

[dull oar]

Yep this is what I did here
#1099591203768504421 message

[cerulean mica]

here are more commands that worked for me in sp

[dull oar]

sv_cheats "1" that's the bit that was messing to that person earlier today

[cerulean mica]

oh, I use sv_cheats "1" only in sp so that players can use their favorite commands like higher jump or give all without devmap, but I assume this is not required for the following commands to work in mp

[dull oar]

Huh, I guess the difference is multiplayer cause portal fine cull and others are cheat protected ☹️

[cerulean mica]

I suppose this can be bypassed only if you create your own server and allow these commands there, but I've never done that before.

[dull oar]

Breaking new grounds!

Never seen before ways to break your game!

Bet some cheat thing somewhere does this already

All I need it for is portalfinecull and forcing only one lod

[cerulean mica]

https://www.moddb.com/games/call-of-duty-2/downloads/call-of-duty-2-single-player-improvement
I just downloaded gfx_d3d_x86_s.dll from this custom patch and renamed it to gfx_d3d_mp_x86_s.dll, and it worked on a public server

[sweet cloak]

Fug I hope my patch still works on that

[cerulean mica]

have you tried these patches?

[velvet onyx]

damn wish i could do this with bo1. That game deserves a remaster

[glass marlin]

we love the sledgehammer branch of the cod engine 🤩

[glass marlin]

but i was still able to enable noclip after using sv_cheats 1

[dull oar]

Ok so now you need to patch your dll fine with Adams patch and your done then

That fixes objects culling and mesh stability

Think we got stuck with you not knowing what portalfinecull is supposed to do

[static tangle]

Are the full setup instructions for Call of Duty 2 posted anywhere? And are yall sharing the assets anywhere yet?

[dull oar]

I'm asking the own of the website I got the source photo textures I used if it's ok to share it online first.

We don't have instructions yet but I could put them together though. I'll install it to another harddrive so it's a fresh install

[dull oar]

If you get it running it's Nvidia Vs modders team death match though

[sweet cloak]

[static tangle]

I'm just interested in getting a better stress test for the POM stuff I'm doing, and your height maps are nice

[dull oar]

Ah thanks 🙂 don't wanna get in trouble with textures.com though so may have to wait til I get the ok from them

[static tangle]

👍

[dull oar]

@sweet cloak would you be able to upload this
#1099591203768504421 message
to your cod 2 GitHub thingy please?

Going to put together a little install guide and that makes everything loads simpler don't it

[sweet cloak]

Done

👍

[dull oar]

your a star mate, ta

[dull oar]

@static tangle call of duty 2 remix install instructions 🙂

a guide to Installing call of duty 2 and adding RTX remix 🙂

[static tangle]

You may want to host that as a google doc or something so you can keep it updated

[dull oar]

wont that just lock it to me though?

[static tangle]

? just share it so anyone can access or comment, but only you can modify

if someone else wants to modify, either you grant them permission, or they fork it

[dull oar]

ah i see

[static tangle]

Alternatively you could write this up as a README file for Adam's github page

[sweet cloak]

||Note a google doc reveals your google account||

[dull oar]

||yea thought so, I can do without "hey tadpole wheres ma god damn graphics" emails ||