also whom r u talking to? use reply and mention features
#G7/z60-7
craggy thunder
daring geyser
If you have less than 180, either level the R nodes more or skip nodes before you go to B7
And yes, first attempt needs 180, second needs 160
craggy thunder
nvm, thats obvious and useless currently
im planning ahead and left exactly 170, ill try to optimise and then wil rerun accordingly
twilit geyser
good luck with your planning ahead
you can also do 160 first
craggy thunder
good point, need to check this layout
nice it helped they are almost identical
will squeese a bit more and leave it
azure goblet
Is there a google doc yet, or do I need to build my own?
azure goblet
thanks!
daring geyser
Someone yoinked the S/H B5 picture
For 1.5
@twilit geyser you know how to restore it, right?
twilit geyser
isn't it already restored
daring geyser
Still shows B4C pic
twilit geyser
here
daring geyser
Thank you 
desert bobcat
oops. i didnt realize i need to reactivate f1 so I'm pretty confident i did bb1 after buying it but not turning it on but that was last night so i don't remember
violet viper
in B2A there's rogue B3C screenshot, anyone here named 'mors' from spreadsheet who knows what they tried to do?
craggy thunder
mediocre g7 (meaning can be completed better)
Galaxy History For UNND-GLX-z60-7
Run 1: B1 Cleared, B2A Cleared, B2C Cleared, R1 Level 1, R1 Level 2, B3A Cleared, B3C Cleared, B3D Cleared, B2B Cleared, R2 Level 1, R1 Level 3
Run 2: B4A Cleared, B4B Cleared, R1 Level 4, R2 Level 2
Run 3: B4C Cleared, R1 Level 5, R2 Level 3, R1 Level 6
Run 4: R3 Level 1, R3 Level 2
Run 5: S1 Level 1
Run 6: F1 Unlocked, B5 Cleared, B6 Cleared, R2 Level 4
Run 7: B5D Cleared, GF Level 1, R2 Level 5
Run 8: S1 Level 2
Run 9: BB1 Cleared, BB1 Cleared, BB1 Cleared, R2 Level 6
Run 10: R3 Level 3, B7 Cleared
Run 11: R3 Level 4, B7 Cleared
--
now just need to decide if i should rush g8 specific node (and if able to) over g7 arts..
wanton harness
im at b7 with 180 fr and 1.5 stats, what layout is suggested
daring geyser
Double 170 seems a tad lower with 331.25 total
fiery fjord
which path is easier, BA or BC?
dusky prism
which path is easier, BA or BC?
Either check spreadsheet or go both for resources at first
daring geyser
BA at 1.5 took me ~51FR, BC would be ~59
dusky prism
mediocre g7 (meaning can be completed better)
Galaxy History For UNND-GLX-z60-7
...
Curious
How did you manage to clear all those nodes on run 1? I was 3-4 FR short to clear one of the battles
Whats going on with advisor huh?
daring geyser
In the end top is better if you aim for artifacts. I'd say drop BC once you have S1 maxed (450 scrap total)
twilit geyser
Whats going on with advisor huh?
cheated
validate it
dusky prism
cheated
validate it
oh right. forgot about those...
polar frost
Based on the spreadsheet, I aimed for B7 clear (less FR used)
Run 1: B1 Cleared, B2C Cleared, B2A Cleared, B3C Cleared, B3D Cleared, B3A Cleared, R1 Level 1, R1 Level 2, R2 Level 1
Run 2: B4A Cleared, B4B Cleared, R1 Level 3, R1 Level 4, R2 Level 2
Run 3: B2B Cleared, R1 Level 5, R3 Level 1, R2 Level 3
Run 4: B4C Cleared, R1 Level 6, R3 Level 2, GF Level 1
Run 5: S1 Level 1, B5D Cleared
Run 6: R2 Level 4, R2 Level 5
Run 7: R2 Level 6, GF Level 2
Run 8: R3 Level 3
Run 9: R3 Level 4, F1 Unlocked
Run 10: B5 Cleared, S1 Level 2, B6 Cleared
Run 11: B7 Cleared, R3 Level 5
Run 12: B7 Cleared
Run 13: R3 Level 6, BB1 Cleared, BB1 Cleared, BB1 Cleared
hardy sleet
full artifact
Galaxy History For UNND-GLX-z60-7 Run 1: B1 Cleared, B2C Cleared, B3C Cleared, B3D Cleared, B2A Cleared, B3A Cleared, R1 Level 1, R1 Level 2, R2 Level 1 Run 2: B2B Cleared, B4A Cleared, B4B Cleared, R1 Level 3, R1 Level 4, R1 Level 5, GF Level 1 Run 3: B4C Cleared, R2 Level 2 Run 4: S1 Level 1, B5D Cleared, R2 Level 3 Run 5: R3 Level 1, R3 Level 2, R1 Level 6 Run 6: F1 Unlocked, R2 Level 4 Run 7: R2 Level 5, B5 Cleared Run 8: S1 Level 2, B6 Cleared Run 9: R2 Level 6, B7 Cleared Run 10: B7 Cleared, R3 Level 3 Run 11: R3 Level 4, BB1 Cleared, BB1 Cleared, BB1 Cleared Run 12: R3 Level 5, GF Level 2 Run 13: R3 Level 6 Run 17: GF Level 3, GF Level 4
twilit geyser
im at 67.67, but advisor says 65 is possible w/o cruiser beam...
65.9
0.9 left
wispy elbow
nice
twilit geyser
can't seem to find how to save another 0.9 yet
craggy thunder
Curious
How did you manage to clear all those nodes on run 1? I was 3-4 FR shor...
single node smth like b2a,
2nd one was cleared for 18.65 or smth fuel cause its said game was bugged, instead of 23 fuel or smth
on 3rd run or smth i was already able to clear it cheaper on updated version of the game
young jetty
BB1
finally found a double deploy for 110 FR
(woops I totally missed F1 buffing BB1 sad)
cloud oyster
full artifact
`Galaxy History For UNND-GLX-z60-7
Run 1: B1 Cleared, B2C Cleared,...
Crazy
dawn tulip
it only dawned on me 3 runs in there's not enough steel to buy the first s1 in 1 go...
and this is just so annoying
covert spindle
hmm, looks like theres a dodgy one in the spreadsheet
tried it 3 times and everytime i get destroyed
dusky prism
tried it 3 times and everytime i get destroyed
both support and no hazard?
covert spindle
yup
corvette with charge laser only in the cell and i get shredded with at least 5 enemies still alive
just in case im doing something wrong (although i dont see how i could be 😄 )
hardy sleet
switch hc to no mod
covert spindle
ah cool, so it was me doing something wrong lmao 😄
didnt think to look at that since i assumed the supports were locked
dawn tulip
why did you include the audio for whatever economics podcast you're listening to 🤣
faint edge
probably didnt realize windows auto records screen audio when you use the snipping tool for videos yeah lmao
Its stupid
covert spindle
lmfao
faint edge
You have to disable it every time
covert spindle
the more you know XD
topaz tulip
cleaned all the invalidated advisors
topaz tulip
You have to disable it every time
so dumb lol I forget to do that evne tho I know all the time
atomic oxide
Anyone got a layout for this one?
Actually, screw it, here's one I found atm. Hardly the best I suppose, but it does deal 669.91 damage with max damage/health (AKA the only upgrade node)
twilit geyser
BB1
finally found a double deploy for 110 FR
(woops I totally missed F1 buffing ...
damn
double deploy without F-node is nuts
for only 110 FR
twilit geyser
Anyone got a layout for this one?
did you check
The Spreadsheet?
cloud oyster
Anyone got a layout for this one?
try to find anything you can squeeze
for the extra 2
atomic oxide
did you check
The Spreadsheet?
I forgot :P
atomic oxide
nah I just decided to send it atp.
twilit geyser
with that 110 FR clear
atomic oxide
Next expedition I'll have it done
cloud oyster
Yeah F1 is pretty much there just to help with BB1
twilit geyser
we kinda need it for b5
twilit geyser
lol
atomic oxide
669 damage JUST manages to get past the threshold where you need 3 attempts to kill it
atomic oxide
669 damage JUST manages to get past the threshold where you need 3 attempts to k...
and I can't see myself gaining another 330 from something
twilit geyser
@topaz tulip we kinda found a way to ignore F1 this galaxy too, if you have 1.5x stats
twilit geyser
and I can't see myself gaining another 330 from something
we have 160+180 clear in spreadsheet
twilit geyser
except for boss
and there's 110 clear that doesn't use it
atomic oxide
we have 160+180 clear in spreadsheet
ah, fair.
twilit geyser
for 2 times
twilit geyser
220 FR total
cloud oyster
F1 Found dead
twilit geyser
so it's 40 FR difference
but you don't even need to buy F1
it's insane how far those upgrades go
cloud oyster
funny how 1.5x battle stats break this galaxy aparently
cloud oyster
lmao
cloud oyster
but you're alpha predator with 1.5x
(alpha predator)
twilit geyser
gee I wonder who could have missed the support node affecting BB1
funnily enough, with your 110 FR clear
apparently you can ignore F1
young jetty
I really did think that BB1 was awfully picky about the double deploy clear
twilit geyser
absolutely
topaz tulip
<@119635852585336832> we kinda found a way to ignore F1 this galaxy too, if you ...
You mean for BB1 or for using at all?
twilit geyser
at all
Clear for hazardous b5 is around 42 FR higher
BB1 in total is 40 FR difference too if done in one go
so if you're clearing b5 and b6 right after, you don't need F1 for b5 anymore, as without hazard it's obviously not worth it
and for BB1 it's okay to do it without F1
obviously, it all depends
it's not like it's absolutely useless
but if you plan around it, you can skip F1
maybe that's actually good
wispy elbow
f1 did seem kind of expensive, costing 240 FR for 2 battles
twilit geyser
actually yeah
according to my own history, I cleared B5
BB1
and b6 in three separate runs
if I ignored F1, I probably could've done it faster?
wispy elbow
upon reflection i think i could've saved like 1 run yeah
topaz tulip
hrm too expensive to unlock
wispy elbow
off my total count
topaz tulip
or to even use when unlocked?
wispy elbow
unlock, i think, though g7 is still pretty short so i don't know if it should get sped up
cloud oyster
Yeah i would say maybe costing 80 then 25 to activate would be fine
twilit geyser
without advisor it's 25 or so, so 42 difference
wispy elbow
i think an optimized playthrough that does use f1 is like 15 runs, and costs approximately 2-2.5 days of fuel
a skip run would shave 6-12 hours off that
topaz tulip
hmm it seems itd be better to instead make F1 more needed
twilit geyser
bb1 lowest total clear with f1 is 3-clear costing 180 FR
without F1 we found 220 FR total 2-clear
cloud oyster
hmm it seems itd be better to instead make F1 more needed
that also works, increase the enemy difficulty on those battles
wispy elbow
f1 could just apply to more battles i guess
twilit geyser
so you don't even really save that much FR by having F1
because it's 40 to activate
.... damn
topaz tulip
F1 applying to more battles be kinda jank. Probably just need to strengthen the battles it already applies to and strengthen it
twilit geyser
strengthen BB1
wispy elbow
hmm
twilit geyser
but make F1 nullify that
wispy elbow
yeah easiest is to just increase bb1 by 50% hp and make it spawn 2 extra hcruiser units there too
twilit geyser
add 2 snipers but also shoot them with F1
cloud oyster
Yeah the only issue with the whole Fleet support nodes is you dont know how efficient they can get till the community really grinds the best layouts
twilit geyser
this will probably make clears VERY hard
since BB1 doesn't actually use a lot of fighters
but it's reliant on heavier ships
wispy elbow
add 2 snipers but also shoot them with F1
tbf that would also nuke bb1 replay value
though replay value already sucks
for a base battle
wispy elbow
twilit geyser
maybe
wispy elbow
usually base battles are easily 1+ efficiency on repeat clears so it's a little sad, but you're not fiending for scrap so it's ok overall
twilit geyser
BB1 gives 25 scrap and lowest NS/NH by advisor right now is 36 FR
which is worse than B5D
wispy elbow
yah, i wasn't able to figure out that 36 so i got 38
twilit geyser
yeah, it anyways bad
cloud oyster
yeah scrap amount is just very low in general for this galaxy
wispy elbow
but yeah buffing bb1 seems ok
topaz tulip
uh, ill bring up g7 and check but it should be simple to add ships and blow them up with it
cloud oyster
ye
violet viper
hmm, looks like theres a dodgy one in the spreadsheet
picture is gone and the other moved up
@twilit geyser how are document versions created? i checked, there are some old ones but they dont have missing screenshot of this one
twilit geyser
picture is gone and the other moved up
<@201039317374730240> how are document v...
by cell
wispy elbow
yeah, and as I said, I think 2 snipers will be the best
teleporting barrier mediums
twilit geyser
go to cell, check versions
twilit geyser
teleporting barrier mediums
you can't nuke those as easily
wispy elbow
the nuke can go off before the teleport, ez
violet viper
oh ok i see
covert spindle
huh, wonder why it got changed when it was actually legit and was just user error XD
violet viper
turns out someone moved a picture onto another, it wasnt 'added into a cell'
topaz tulip
I could give B6 more stuff and have F1 hit it too
wispy elbow
nooo my mandatory supportless opti
twilit geyser
turns out someone moved a picture onto another, it wasnt 'added into a cell'
a lot of that happens, yeah
topaz tulip
ok, snipers and 4 more lasers on bb1 works good
covert spindle
mooooom sylv is being mean to us 😂
twilit geyser
now we need to see if someone will be able to break that bb1 too, lol
but yeah, I think snipers should do the trick
since they counter most of the ships you can place there
and you can't counter them with fighters, because torpedoes
rockets*
young jetty
classic UT menace
topaz tulip
B5 trickier since its reinforcements
actually
you guys do b5 without F1 at all?
that is 2 medium ships extra already 
twilit geyser
I didn't, but specifically for 1.5x there's a NS advisor which is roughly 42 FR up
I will try to solve it at least partially
topaz tulip
ill just do 3 spawns for them and you
it might still be a thing to skip it if you can smash through that fight without it and clear the hazard same go I guess
but its far less likely at least?
twilit geyser
well, this is "only" 65 FR
while on spreadsheet we have S/H for 27.26
so yeah, technically F1 wasn't worth it for 1.5x at all
it's not even as optimised as could be
somber shale
the B5 S/H 1,5x doesn't work on my end, anyone else can try it perhaps?
covert spindle
are your heavy cruisers using the beam mod?
topaz tulip
well, this is "only" 65 FR
while on spreadsheet we have S/H for 27.26
ah ok so its 1.5 stats too. well I can add it to B6
twilit geyser
covert spindle
if yes disable that mod
twilit geyser
ah ok so its 1.5 stats too. well I can add it to B6
yes, I'm not really checking before 1.5 stats
cloud oyster
Why is it negative
covert spindle
you dont place them, but the support does
somber shale
ohhh
covert spindle
so yh, you need to match those to what the spreadsheet says aswell
cloud oyster
ye
covert spindle
i got caught by that earlier 😄
somber shale
the dum dum in the name showcases itself once again
acoustic lodge
I need people to stop removing the tests around a score. Yes 1.0x and 1.5x is worse than something else and 1.25x is better. But unless it's recorded it's not clear. Because people love to find a best and never check if it was the best for -0.25x of what they found it at
topaz tulip
wut, betrayed by my own coded stetup, the 8th laser shoots the middle instead of the new sniper lmao
cloud oyster
wut, betrayed by my own coded stetup, the 8th laser shoots the middle instead of...
Just let the support shoot the boss instead
boom fixxed :D
covert spindle
that could actually be pretty cool, have a boss killer support
cloud oyster
yeah like a damage over time support
so the more you delay the death of your troops more damage
violet viper
I need people to stop removing the tests around a score. Yes 1.0x and 1.5x is wo...
I did few of that today, sorry, will leave them be.
acoustic lodge
It's fine if it's like 1.0x / 1.25x / 1.5x / 1.75x / 2.0x / 2.25x / 2.5x / 2.75x to leave it as ~~ 1.75x~~ / 2.0x / 2.25x but like I said. In Galaxy 6 I found close to 50 times where someone found a best for a spot and that best was actually better than everything found for +/- .5x
So every time I go in I test those edge cases and it makes my life worse to have to constantly test. 🙂 (not at anyone specific. Just a minor rant)
And the advisor never checks if something is better than the current advisor -0.25x
violet viper
true
royal escarp
38.83, advisor gets slightly better stats so probably some position i couldnt find
acoustic lodge
I'll try to find it for a bit
royal escarp
you have to split the big ones there to survive, both in B row instead of A row hits 38.82
but anything else seems to get hit by everything
covert spindle
damn, just finshed g7 minus the artifacts so woop, took a peek at the next one and wow sylv is definitely being mean lol 😄 although spoilers for here i guess hahaha
dread to think how long this would have taken me without the spreasheet lmao
royal escarp
16.25 used
dusky prism
lol
violet viper
for nodes like B7: should spreadsheet order be with:
first encounter (CommandShip->NoCommandShip) or most often replayed (NoCommandShip->CommandShip [artefact farming]?
topaz tulip
FYI change ocming in patch today to make F1 more of a thing
dusky prism
Wtf
violet viper
It's just a run with N/H on or off that I wanted to do at least once, but couln't find a solution from advisor, my own results were -3 or -5 FR worse than advisor
example: I was checking which route was cheapest to get to B5
b2a + b3a + b4a + a2a + b5 139 (=13,35+15,5+26,05+50+33,75)
b2a + b3a + b4a + f1 + a2a + b5 155 (=13,35+15,5+26,05+50+10+40)
bb1 + f1 + b4a + a2a + b5 162 (=36,26+40+26,05+50+10)
dusky prism
for nodes like B7: should spreadsheet order be with:
first encounter (CommandSh...
Yeah it should
Most dont bother with column reordering and just add below
Thats fine someone will fix it eventually
trim ingot
i get a weird feeling i did this very poorly.
but Sylv might still change some stuff so maybe i'm still doing better than after patch so meh lol
in my head this set up seemed good. but i feel like i can win with less resources. Lol
plush vector
did B2A get changed? this doesn't work anymore
twilit geyser
no, but armored cruisers were fixed
wispy elbow
it was just listed like a regular small fix
but cruisers were more than 2x as strong in galaxies because of it xd
trim ingot
did B2A get changed? this doesn't work anymore
you were accidentally using a bugged ship.
all your pain in one screen shot
time to waste 3 hours of fuel for 200 resources 😂
cinder cedar
I'm assuming it's 3 hours because of the Residuum and Corruption fuel efficiency? It's 4.5 hours for me after the B7 clear
trim ingot
most likely yes
😭 all your pain in 1 screen shot part 2.
is it possible he could remove "apply upgrades" button once they are max? is that possible? o:
covert spindle
anything is possible, whether it will or wont happen however... 😄
worth making the suggestion at least
craggy thunder
guyz for any1 whos done with B7 boss i highly suggest considering taking a break for 2 optimised runs through G8 for x20 and x1.5 fixture speeds
#1433895977257013358 message
much luv ❤️ (sector 133 reinf required)
craggy thunder
this only works until Sylv buffs g8 bb1
don't say such things don't give him hints pls, it provides us with absolute cinema portion of dopamine - i have warm feelings inside, smiling and happy
as it is now
twilit geyser
don't say such things don't give him hints pls, it provides us with absolute cin...
he already knows, lol
and he will buff g8 bb1
craggy thunder
B7 NH 1.5x updated
topaz tulip
I mean the 2 run method will maybe still work im not sure if on elevel R1 lets you get another good ship to overcom ethe health bump, thatd be fine if it does since its relaly the 1 run first run thing ><
craggy thunder
reminder: RMB can autocomplete a node
cloud oyster
forgot about that
woven leaf
clickety click
craggy thunder
so it took 20 runs to complete G7 as i like - with GF and arts,
also ive had an opportunity to get treats from g8 and left with 7 hours of banked Astrium out of ~4 days
Run 1: B1 Cleared, B2A Cleared, B2C Cleared, R1 Level 1, R1 Level 2, B3A Cleared, B3C Cleared, B3D Cleared, B2B Cleared, R2 Level 1, R1 Level 3
Run 2: B4A Cleared, B4B Cleared, R1 Level 4, R2 Level 2
Run 3: B4C Cleared, R1 Level 5, R2 Level 3, R1 Level 6
Run 4: R3 Level 1, R3 Level 2
Run 5: S1 Level 1
Run 6: F1 Unlocked, B5 Cleared, B6 Cleared, R2 Level 4
Run 7: B5D Cleared, GF Level 1, R2 Level 5
Run 8: S1 Level 2
Run 9: BB1 Cleared, BB1 Cleared, BB1 Cleared, R2 Level 6
Run 10: R3 Level 3, B7 Cleared
Run 11: R3 Level 4, B7 Cleared
Run 12: R3 Level 5
Run 13: GF Level 2
Run 14: R3 Level 6, GF Level 3
Run 15: GF Level 4
Run 16: GF Level 5
Run 17: GF Level 6
Run 18: GF Level 7, GF Level 8
Run 19: GF Level 9
Run 20: GF Level 10
cya in the next
topaz tulip
hm final battle cleared in 11?
cinder cedar
That's impressive, the earliest I've seen before is 12
wispy elbow
hm final battle cleared in 11?
Galaxy History For UNND-GLX-z60-7
Run 1: B1 Cleared, B2C Cleared, B3C Cleared, B3D Cleared, B2A Cleared, B3A Cleared, R1 Level 1, R1 Level 2, R2 Level 1
Run 2: B4A Cleared, B2B Cleared, GF Level 1, R1 Level 3, R1 Level 4, R2 Level 2
Run 3: B4C Cleared, B4B Cleared, R1 Level 5
Run 4: S1 Level 1, R1 Level 6, R3 Level 1
Run 6: S1 Level 2, B5D Cleared
Run 7: F1 Unlocked, BB1 Cleared, BB1 Cleared, BB1 Cleared, R2 Level 3
Run 8: B5 Cleared, B6 Cleared, R2 Level 4, R3 Level 2
Run 9: B7 Cleared, R2 Level 5
Run 10: B7 Cleared, R2 Level 6
Run 11: R3 Level 3
lmao, i would also say to bear in mind how much of that is the difference between the optimal runs and the non
since for me there were some zones which the optimal setup was half the FR cost of what i found on my own
some i was closer on, and there might have been a couple that i was even worse than that on XD
took me 22 runs to clear B7 the first time, and that with the last 3 or 4 of those runs using the spreadsheet and the runs before being my own random some lucky some terrible setups XD
topaz tulip
ya, just a very optimizable galaxy swings it hard
wispy elbow
i actually think this is less optimizable than average at least in terms of positions since there's less fiddling with s nodes being huge
but the fights are baseline pretty rough
frozen parrot
where is the spreadsheet?
faint edge
pinned
young jetty
only 1 S node with 2 levels was quite nice
Still some work to optimize in pathing, but far less exhausting
safe peak
vast yew
well damn F1 and BB1 and B5 were changed
acoustic lodge
Dumb question for the spreadsheet. B5 NH/S has 10 fleet resources used + 40 from taking F1 for support. Total 50. Yet the spreadsheet says 10+13.58. Did Sylv change the cost of F1 from 10 to 40? As my math ain't mathing
acoustic lodge
I show it as 40 currently
cloud oyster
are you on .3v?
cloud oyster
cloud oyster
yeah i dont think were skipping support nodes now for these smaller galaxies
acoustic lodge
Cleaned up B5 and BB1 for the new numbers
tight wyvern
Uhm, i believe i found a bug but i don't know how to reproduce it or explain it
acoustic lodge
Not sure how to help in that case
As a minor note, currently the A route (along the top) is better than C route (along the bottom)
tight wyvern
acoustic lodge
That shows a success?
woven leaf
uh yeah cuz it uses previous completion and if it worked in the past it just uses it even though it doesn't work anymore
tight wyvern
cloud oyster
yeah
tight wyvern
but it should not be possible
so i just completed the run as the low% chance? and is not a bug?
tight wyvern
So it got completed by accident and now i have that cheap fight even if is not possible
tight wyvern
so not my fault yey
cloud oyster
yeah it was the game
on release crusier had the UT buff it got
but it acidently applied to galaxies instead
tight wyvern
but it acidently applied to galaxies instead
well for one side is good to now is not my fault, and is already know bcs i had 0 idea how to explain it
acoustic lodge
Welp. I'm done with this galaxy. I did a quick last pass to update the spreadsheet.
May our efforts help others 🙂
tight wyvern
I don't remember if i updated once G6 but it help me a lot
trim ingot
F1 is now pretty much required. Galaxy 7 just changed completely.
sour spoke
Which path do you take in G7?
Force B4C to take S1, and then BB1 and F1?
Or F1 before BB1?
twilit geyser
F1 before BB1, it's made
quite crucial
also would probably finish S1 before BB1, but maybe it's just me
trim ingot
yup Sylv didn't want us skipping F1 so basically made it required for base
dawn tulip
you guys weren't doing s1/2 before bb1?
twilit geyser
there's no s2
dawn tulip
sorry I meant both levels of s1
twilit geyser
I did
trim ingot
i did galaxy 7 before the rebalance. so I did S1 level 1 before Base 1, but you didn't need both levels.
now you might need it.
grave fog
Are the B7 in the Excel sheet prebalance patch? It says 900 damange, meanwhile i'm barely pulling 300 lmao
rotund jay
wet barn
lf g7 spreadsheet so I don't have to think
how do I open this on full screen
is the question apparently
k foudn how ignore me
sour spoke
Is B5 1.5x 25.09 accurate? Best I can do is 27.26
twilit geyser
Is B5 1.5x 25.09 accurate? Best I can do is 27.26
your HC has beam or not
cloud oyster
lol
sour spoke
It has
twilit geyser
well, I just checked it
it works
sour spoke
Note on Android the laser icon is on the next line making it hard to see
I'll go check on my computer...
twilit geyser
lol
i have absolutely zero idea
since i just checked it and it worked the same way
sour spoke
Oh LMAO. Notice the difference?
PC
Android
PC gets 3 Heavy Cruiser reinforcements. Android gets 2. WTF?
sour spoke
Hum... My PC is .4, and my android was .2
Bruh, I'm getting 3 ships now
Well. Mistery solved lol
tight spruce
dusky prism
grave fog
just tested 160 FR clear on 964.1 damage
Aight, must be skill issue on my part then idk
trim fable
What's the deal with B4A, none of the suggestions works even remotely
twilit geyser
they do
trim fable
Let me rephrase 😛
Says "NH: 1.5x-20" And I've tried all the combinations and it is still a wipe
trim fable
I don't know then, I've gone through all the combinations I can think of and it still wipes
twilit geyser
...
I literally just posted you
a spreadsheet
and it works
just setup it as it's shown here
in spreadsheet it's the same
woven leaf
I don't know then, I've gone through all the combinations I can think of and it ...
you on the right stats or what?
trim fable
Yeah but I misread the NH part, I didn't clear the hazard yet so my fault. It works after that 🙂
left snow
ty to spreadsheet makers my g7 was smooth as butter WOOHOO!!!!
mint mulch
What the heck are you supposed to do with RB6, the second base seems impossible to even damage without their being another ship upgrade nide
twilit geyser
did you check the spreadsheet?
mint mulch
The pinned one? Ever even noticed it
What you can use more than one of each ship? 😅 Well that makes things easier
mint mulch
Lol yeah, I saw the 0/1 and thought you could only use one of each
trim ingot
Lol yeah, I saw the 0/1 and thought you could only use one of each
the tutorial probably explained it but who reads in 2025?
mint mulch
I mean I got to galxoes like 6 months ago
mint mulch
Lol true this was also the first time I did a fleet battle in 120 days so likely just forgot
twilit geyser
I mean I got to galxoes like 6 months ago
you probably had miserable time in galaxies if you didn't know about overdeploy
mint mulch
Just the way the UI displayed the ships in galaxy 7 I thought it was only one
twilit geyser
it's same for every galaxy
dawn tulip
can someone fix up the b7 column at some point lol
all the labels are under each image instead of above, the latest one just used the next image cell, very messy
twilit geyser
someone was doing something
for that one
not sure what was going on
I think they tried grouping 2-part clears
dawn tulip
Run 1: B1 Cleared, B2C Cleared, B3C Cleared, B3D Cleared, B2A Cleared, B3A Cleared, R1 Level 1, R1 Level 2, R2 Level 1
Run 2: B4A Cleared, R1 Level 3, R2 Level 2
Run 3: B4B Cleared, R1 Level 4, R1 Level 5, R3 Level 1
Run 4: B4C Cleared, B5D Cleared, B2B Cleared, R2 Level 3, R1 Level 6
Run 5: S1 Level 1
Run 7: S1 Level 2
Run 8: F1 Unlocked, B5 Cleared, B6 Cleared, GF Level 1, R2 Level 4
Run 9: BB1 Cleared, BB1 Cleared, BB1 Cleared, R3 Level 2, R2 Level 5
Run 10: B7 Cleared, R3 Level 3
Run 11: B7 Cleared, R2 Level 6
Run 12: R3 Level 4
Run 13: R3 Level 5
Run 15: R3 Level 6
some notes for Sylv - I didn't get to the final resource level until the very last run (also I kinda lucked out and the very last artifact node repeat I did got me the very last amount of artifacts needed to finish the galaxy out)
I semi-followed a strategy of prioritizing steel until the bases were down, then focused on artifacts instead (anyone else notice A2A+A2C have better return on FR than A3 does?)
overall felt... faster and smoother to play? not having to brute force test nodes and contribute to the sheet and all lol
p.s. also skipped B2B most of the time
barren finch
Is GF worth maxing in G7 if I already cleared the other nodes and maxed upgrades? I.E does it have any benefit outside of G7?
twilit geyser
sorry, but how did you get to g7
not knowing that GFs don't affect other galaxies
no, it's not worth maxing, unless you finished all other galaxies artifacts already
serene viper
forgor since update is so long
twilit geyser
strange to me, but okay
barren finch
I play multiple games. This is an idle game after all so I don't sit and watch it and remember every minutia. Either way, thanks, ill move to G8
mossy flicker
Hey this might be a stupid question that has been answered somewhere already, but what exactly does the catch up cutoff part of this upgrade do? it's obtained from the BB1 node in z60-7
woven leaf
well it means you get overdrive catchup to your highest ever overdrive tier reached
which oughta be t20 by this point
crude geyser
which oughta be t20 by this point
lol
mossy flicker
I've had t20 before but I don't see it doing anything since I got it, my overdrives are all on T17 other than warp, I assumed it would expedite the process or something
woven leaf
yeah
cloud oyster
yeah
woven leaf
lol
actually it really isn't possible to hit t20 on normal progression until you reinforce at like s136+ innit
mossy flicker
Is it maybe not retroactively recognizing my highest overdrive tiers, because it's doing nothing right now
woven leaf
it should have been fixed to work now
crude geyser
actually it really isn't possible to hit t20 on normal progression until you rei...
you start to hit t17 around the time you reach s131; t18 takes like another 3-4 days after that
woven leaf
it doesn't visually update overdrive charge speed and stats and info doesn't indicate the bonus anywhere which does make it hard to tell whether or not its actually working
mossy flicker
Okay thanks, It does do the kind of thing I thought it did then it's just not obvious. I was making sure I wasn't misunderstanding the upgrade
crude geyser
I kinda wish the OD catchup just used the highest OD out of any of them, especially now that g7 bb1 got nerfed a bit
woven leaf
why did it get nerfed anyways
crude geyser
no idea. maybe some eoc person complained that they hit t20 too quickly
which is fucking ridiculous but here we are
woven leaf
I kinda wish the OD catchup just used the highest OD out of *any* of them, espec...
well there is a slight problem with that which is warp OD being like 300 times faster than the others and raising the cap to t20 much earlier
crude geyser
well that's the point
cloud oyster
why did it get nerfed anyways
woven leaf
crude geyser
ODs around s129-131 are awful
shard eventually helps but you're so deep into time scaling at that point that it just kinda sets them back to normal (slow) pace
woven leaf
good thing g8 has OD speed
crude geyser
yeah, and g8 also has a recommended starting sector of 134
crude geyser
it sure is
woven leaf
eoc fallout
scenic ore
anyone have an idea for this b6 advisor layout
I tried a couple and can't make it clear
if I turn the frigate corvette into a cruiser it clears for same initial commitment
but I imagine advisor has better remainder
fast kayak
Completed Galaxy 7.
silent mural
I really like how the galaxies were designed this time around. The big jumps in fleet combat stats makes optimization so much better, and no weird situations where you perform worse 10% of the time from tiny improvements. I also really like how you are reinforcing and doing the galaxies at the same time too.
indigo cargo
matched advisory for B3c
(stats 1.0, FR 25.64/30)
(just enough to push to an extra 30 FR battle)
I was at 29.73 or something before)
crude geyser
oh that's a nice idea
incidentally I'm pretty sure 3x40 + 1x50 is better than 3x60 for killing BB1 at 1.5 stats
literally just hc + at x3 and then you add in a charge laser corvette at some point
they're kinda interchangeable in that it comes down to how much FR you have left over when you're doing artifact runs (but you do have to commit to one or the other, you either do 3x60 or 3x40 + 1x50)
proper creek
is there a sheet for G7? I found the one for G8 but nothing for 7
twilit geyser
pins
proper creek
I don't have a pins button for some reason?
willow dune
am i the only one who didn't understand this part of F1 doesn't reset? the worst thing being i did the same mistake in previous galaxy...
dusky prism
am i the only one who didn't understand ***this*** part of F1 doesn't reset? the...
Nah many thought you need to dump 200 each time
I wouldnt know myself if I hadn't seen someone mentioning it
willow dune
g6 was quite long ago, i forgot
woven leaf
note: Every node with a BAR that you can fill with fleet resources is a cumulative one
every node that requires a straight up investment will just say 'submit x fleet resource'
tidal rapids
huh, lots of nodes to place ships for the final galaxy 7 fight...but don't think it's even possible to fill them cause not nearly enough resources possible to have left even with everything else maxed?
tidal rapids
ok don't think tis possible to oneshot the final galaxy7 boss, but it's...almost doable.
not a single ship lost to anything but the cap ship which fires insta-kill one-shots soon as any ship fires even one shot at it
tidal rapids
BB1 one-shot success 🎉
void trail
B4C NH x1.25
30.84 FR
Current best NH x1.25 is 33.2 FR
I just used the same layout as the x1.25 H. 
ripe oasis
B2A 1.5 (last one) says 1.5x - 11.97 !!?? not working (Was working pre patch, not working anymore) - but it worked for me just fine, though result is 15.87, which is worse that previous layout
twilit geyser
that was what "not working" means
I guess it's better to just outright delete it
done it
worldly dirge
twilit geyser
you can fix it yourself
but I fixed it
hm
it actually looks wrong lol
yeah
now I fixed it
someone tried to "optimize"
and killed layout
faint edge
you can fix it yourself
Now you understand my pain
cloud oyster
lol
dire bolt
can someone help me understand fleet resources? if i max out the resources in the previous galaxys do they acumulate for the other ones?
twilit geyser
no
subtle mason
higher sector = more fleet resources base
IN GALAXY Resources are boosted by R and GF nodes. In galaxy doesnt transfer to other galaxies.
STARTING ships bought in a galaxy will transfer, but you should ahve figured that out by the time you fnish galaxy 1.
After G6 your FR will be nerfed but you'll be ok with it.
subtle mason
just did 4 G7 runs with the H layout instead of NH layout on B7. 🙂
onyx thicket
^thanks myself for this somebody delted the screenshot all toguether making it impossible to find now ...
shrewd olive
why is my BB1 layout different to the one on the spreadsheet? They dont have the snipers
twilit geyser
bb1 was changed
there's layout with snipers too
for base it doesn't matter, since support kills snipers too
vestal ember
After the last three galaxies, I have to admit I felt genuine relief in my heart when I saw this one for the first time
vestal ember
This galaxy was fun, and a really nice change of pace
lusty zodiac
I assume this galaxy is pretty locked down until I get to s129 huh, I've only done 3 nodes so far haha
proud bone
^thanks myself for this somebody delted the screenshot all toguether making it i...
Not sure if it happened again but B1-B3 2nd, row images are missing and the B3A is fully missing, I might have the solution can I just re-add or do you have a backup?
I don't have them all but can try to figure it out
Main problem with mine images will be that A1 is sliced off 🤭
onyx thicket
Not sure if it happened again but B1-B3 2nd, row images are missing and the B3A ...
want me to fill them?
i'll try to salvage this
yeah I see that somebody Delted all picture...
found them
a fucking idiot just added 14 cell
I just need to know who it's and track is ip address then try to get his mac address then PC ban him from internet. (jk i'm just gonna report him here)
yesterday at 16:52 GMT +2 time got his IP address but since they're unid I just ask google to ban this guy from the file for ever.
proud bone
a fucking idiot just added 14 cell
ahhh oops I didn't checked that much below hahaha
onyx thicket
should be fixed
dw the guy who did that got a premium report and I hope a permantly ban from tempering random file
he'll need to get approved for any modification till he's proven respectful from community guideline again.
proud bone
Thank you, glad they are found I just needed to do B7 but seen it was missing odd someone added lines but can be a mistake the add new line is very easy on Android sheets sadly. I hope it's not me
onyx thicket
well you'll have a line at the top saying "You have broken Google guideline and unable to modify the file" and at the leftmost "ask for accessing the file" and "understood" .
woven leaf
kek
onyx thicket
but sadly most of the time it only "punish you" for a week or so
very rarely it's malecious and stay "for ever"
proud bone
Nope, not me, I was able to change the suggestion to 1 higher 🙂
proud bone
but sadly most of the time it only "punish you" for a week or so
It is sad it is needed but sheets are fully locked for that reason
onyx thicket
well if you ever need a tech i'm open to help btw , might be sleeping or unavable maximum for 12H after that PC time 😄 (i'm a freaking Weebos that do IT teaching for people that want to know how server works for a living)
proud bone
Thank you for the sheets G6 was getting very very on my nervous it was a bit to big but with the sheet it was a piece of cake
onyx thicket
It is sad it is needed but sheets are fully locked for that reason
some are but in 2 click you can rollback any modification anyway (as long as you know what you're doing nothing is "permanant" everything have save on multiple layers)
wait till you see G8
you gonna love it
proud bone
Are there even more nodes than G6?
woven leaf
:D
onyx thicket
i'm on my run to 100% Every single Galaxy so I adds some things from max out stats
woven leaf
Are there even more nodes than G6?
well, what does g7 look like
proud bone
||3 more|| than G7 😄
Ahh that's not bad. If you do it yourself G6 is just so much work to figure out which goes where what to do it is huge. I did G1-G-5 myself and about 50% of G6 until I thought, time for the sheets it takes to much time
proud bone
well, what does g7 look like
woven leaf
see, it's not bigger than g6
onyx thicket
G6 is the most painfull to 100%
like on god, I needed 9 clear to have all scrap even if I 100% clear the whole map !
proud bone
G6 is the most painfull to 100%
I am still missing 3 levels from the scraps 🤣
But G6 was fun to do once, I am glad to read that G8 is a roughly the same size as G7. Lets hope G6 never comes back around 😄
onyx thicket
as long as I can use my new tools i'm ok with it.
vestal ember
The problem with G6 isn't just that there's so much of it, it's that you have to redo all of it every 2-3 runs because you get a stat upgrade
acoustic rose
Galaxy History For UNND-GLX-z60-7
Run 1: B1 Cleared, B2C Cleared, R1 Level 1, B2A Cleared, B2B Cleared, B3A Cleared, R1 Level 2, R2 Level 1, GF Level 1
Run 2: B4A Cleared, B3C Cleared, B3D Cleared, R1 Level 3, R1 Level 4, R2 Level 2
Run 3: B4B Cleared, B4C Cleared, R1 Level 5, R1 Level 6
Run 4: S1 Level 1
Run 5: R3 Level 1, R2 Level 3, F1 Unlocked, B5 Cleared, R3 Level 2
Run 6: B6 Cleared, R2 Level 4, R2 Level 5
Run 7: B5D Cleared
Run 8: S1 Level 2, B7 Cleared, GF Level 2
Run 9: B7 Cleared, R2 Level 6, R3 Level 3
Run 10: BB1 Cleared, BB1 Cleared, BB1 Cleared, R3 Level 4
Run 11: R3 Level 5
Run 13: R3 Level 6
Run 16: GF Level 3, GF Level 4, GF Level 5
All battles cleared by run 10, full artifacts on 16
Only needing 6 extra runs for artifacts was so nice, after having to do almost 20 on G6
steel vector
this upgrade had me acting unwise for g7, lmao
cloud oyster
lol
vapid current
Anyone got the ideal layout for B1 on 1.0x stats? I've been trying to figure it out for like 20 minutes lol
Or if there is a spreadsheet like the one for g6 a link wouldn't go unappreciated as I've been unable to find it
orchid herald
orchid copper
rotund raptor
On the spreadsheet someone has replaced the bb1 1.25 s with a b7 layout, anyone know what it was?
rotund raptor
Looks good to me, I didn’t think of that tbh, thanks
supple pivot
```Galaxy History For UNND-GLX-z60-7
Run 1: B1 Cleared, B2C Cleared, B3C Cleared...
Care to share your layout for how you cleared B5D with 1 damage?
Or anyone else who has
dawn tulip
stuff's changed since then
late lichen
you’re awesome, thanks!
although I’m about to get 1.5x so that one will be for other ppl now haha
lapis edge
I recall that one taking me longer than normal to match the advisor
found like a half-dozen 26s
static harbor
im at sector 129 should i start g7 or wait till 132
muted island
The first two artifact rewards are really great, and you should do BB1 before the next time you reinforce. Beyond that, it's your call whether you would rather have the minimum number of runs or an earlier exposure to the other upgrades
Personally, I started at 129 and finished at 130 and don't have regrets about it.
narrow topaz
B7 no ship 1.5x - 67(4)/70 (not advisor)
lapis edge
there's a 55 FR usage in the sheet already
narrow topaz
pls? 🥹
twilit geyser
what "pls"
narrow topaz
55/70 please! B7 no ship 1.5x! May the gods bless you!
lapis edge
twilit geyser
check pinned messages
lapis edge
there's a spreadsheet
narrow topaz
Where it? Sorry for bad English!
narrow topaz
Oh! unbelievable! Thanks
twilit geyser
or you can check pins
empty summit
looks like B1 1.25x's screenshots are messed up, it's crossed out for the top screenshot but then a mess underneath
the top two screenshots look identical to me, and match the advisor
muted island
I don't know about that. When I looked at it the captions for the second and third pictures were both screenshots overwriting the original text. I restored the text at least, but you're right that the screenshots for the first and second suggestions are the same.
Okay, I replaced the second image with a correct one. I don't know how to get version control on Google Images to revert bad accidental changes to the spreadsheet, but at least I know how to see what the older data was and can verify that it was correct.
silent adder
this layout fails with 1.5x stats
i got support too
idk whats wrong, maybe update?
okay another layout with more FR required works, ill take that i guess
twilit geyser
works perfectly fine for me
I assume you either forgot to change heavy cruisers to beam
or did some other mistake
but it works
silent adder
OHH nevermind i realised that the support heavy cruisers inherit your settings
okay yeah my bad, ill remember next time
limpid viper
why so little dmg guys ? b7 g7
lapis edge
why so little dmg guys ? b7 g7
did you look at the spreadsheet in pins?
lapis edge
change your browser zoom level?
lapis edge
it isn't like behind your task bar is it? have you tried moving the browser window?
lapis edge
shows up down here for me
limpid viper
shows up down here for me
i did it, thanks a lot bro
primal turret
i am tired and dont get this:
Should i cleanse all crew befor i buy it?
twilit geyser
you shouldn't
primal turret
you shouldn't
Why? Would that not give +3 for mastery gain? Or is that a bad thing?
primal turret
So the +3 dissapears after the crew member catches up?
twilit geyser
yes
bleak onyx
t
shut loom
lol the spreadsheet b2a looks funny for 1.0
primal turret
Can someone plz explain the: Cutoff -4
twilit geyser
it works for 4 more levels
cloud oyster
Can someone plz explain the: Cutoff -4
pretty much overdrive catchup is always active as long as your below your highest ever
primal turret
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