those frigates are mega toasted
#G6/z69-6
subtle sparrow
atomic grotto
um
storm leaf
subtle sparrow
I should not be getting 9.8
atomic grotto
it says you used 20.85 that run
austere adder
this is loading that and having it come up and hitting go right?
same layout etc
9.8 is impossible it has to be at least 15
subtle sparrow
well
austere adder
oh
storm leaf
atomic grotto
like maybe it counts reinforcements as negative FR
subtle sparrow
I just die here
storm leaf
this is the same layout and im not crazy right
atomic grotto
your on 63.0.1?
@subtle sparrow
austere adder
ok its probably just that bug then
subtle sparrow
tragic
austere adder
it was quite borked
hasty fjord
Uh @austere adder was this a typo on resources required?
storm leaf
where's the bugs that benefit me sylv HMPH
storm leaf
well at least i can stop trying to figure out why i can't get a 9.8 lmao
austere adder
ya in theory that should be all fixed in 63.1 assuming it wasnt broken on last version
atomic grotto
oh yeah sylv
i think advisor should also mention the weapons used by stuff you didn't deploy on
because for b8 for example
subtle sparrow
well at least i can stop trying to figure out why i can't get a 9.8 lmao
sorry about that (definitely blame Sylv)
atomic grotto
at 1.3, the optimal layout doesn't use fighter
subtle sparrow
🗿
atomic grotto
but the support spawns fighters as reinforcements
austere adder
i think advisor should also mention the weapons used by stuff you didn't deploy ...
oh no
thats... rather difficult to do ><
subtle sparrow
sad
storm leaf
git gud
atomic grotto
uh oh
storm leaf
jk ily
languid robin
I do like the beam weapon on the heavy cruisers (shield regen guys suck)
austere adder
that info just isnt saved in the whole "thing" that does the stuff
swift maple
storm leaf
is that the technical term?
swift maple
Where is my heavy cruiser
acoustic jetty
EZ fix, support is hardcoded to a default and doesnt use your weapon
problem solved!
storm leaf
you can buy it at M1
storm leaf
swift maple
BAITED
storm leaf
i thought it was one of those free perm ships we used to get
swift maple
Yeah
storm leaf
i was confused at first too
swift maple
Thx
atomic grotto
if i had a nickel for every time the advisor default layout was actually the optimal one
i'd have 4 nickels
why does this keep happening
austere adder
lol
swift maple
Ok so what's the diff between cruiser and heavy cruiser
storm leaf
thiccer booty
swift maple
Oh I see
atomic grotto
the heavier one is slower and is x2 shield
swift maple
Yes yes
languid robin
Ok so what's the diff between cruiser and heavy cruiser
One has bonus armor one has bonus shield
storm leaf
this one also seems unpossible
subtle sparrow
I've been using parenthesis for my multipliers when posting screenshots
so those are the imposters
storm leaf
imma yeet it
storm leaf
well let me see if it's better than the other one at 1.3
subtle sparrow
Beam seems super awful for smaller ships with the ramp time
wonder if it's gigabad against Bases
storm leaf
yeah that 1.3 layout i get 18.75 at 1.6 and on your layout i get 20.9
atomic grotto
also wait sylv, i thought you set up your advisor thing to reject old version layouts
acoustic jetty
Beam seems super awful for smaller ships with the ramp time
in the base game beam eventually comes back around when the ships are REALLY weak because it's so fast
maybe beam will be the late galaxy mop-up meta
austere adder
also wait sylv, i thought you set up your advisor thing to reject old version la...
it does, I only recently nuked the 0.63 ones
is htere an active advisor with an issue still?
austere adder
Sylv are you going to meet your future GF over USI
wut?
subtle sparrow
in the base game beam eventually comes back around when the ships are REALLY wea...
it seems to have a retargetting time so I don't think it'll work out
atomic grotto
hmm, but when i brought up the x1.6 one earlier i confirmed it was like that in-game too
on practice mode
swift maple
LOL
swift maple
wut?
I'm from the future, USIChat becomes the chat app of the future
It beats Discord
It beats X
storm leaf
Sylv's waifu is going to be whoever first beats 1.0.0 of USI
swift maple
Yes
austere adder
I'm from the future, USIChat becomes the chat app of the future
<
atomic grotto
ok time to opti b9, apparently i'm leaving 8 fr on the ground somewhere
acoustic jetty
it seems to have a retargetting time so I don't think it'll work out
this sounds like lasers will still suck in UT. if they're still useless against swarms they need to be inanse against mediums
swift maple
Yes, Charge Laser is throwing
acoustic jetty
right but charge laser + beam laser was supposed to be viable
subtle sparrow
well mediums do have the health pool, but there's a new defense type to worry about
acoustic jetty
the savior of variety
subtle sparrow
right but charge laser + beam laser was supposed to be viable
yeah that's gonna be very concerning if a bunch of skirmishers show up to ruin your day
gotta find versatile rail gun
but we'll see, maybe skirmishers aren't in the enemy pool for this UT galaxy difficulty level
acoustic jetty
versatile railgun is still anti-armor for enemy drafting purposes
having it on an "all shield run" would still flood you with armor enemies
atomic grotto
is htere an active advisor with an issue still?
could double check b9 with support on 1.3 i guess, it has a ton of reinforcements so maybe it ran into the same issue
though im probably just getting skill issued there since my own clear is 55/60 and the advisor is 47/60
austere adder
k ill look
man need an auto in game report
that then just runs an instance of USI and checks it lol
acoustic jetty
but we'll see, maybe skirmishers aren't in the enemy pool for this UT galaxy dif...
...maybe the beam laser upgrades are "aoe beam shotgun" huffs copium
swift maple
Why... if it doesn't change, assume it's optimal?
subtle sparrow
I don't know when the turning point was, but at 1.825 Fleet Multiplier F1 loses you FR over going through B3 B4 B5 without support
swift maple
Nice to know
subtle sparrow
may be worth checking at 1.7x as well
swift maple
Someone said 1.5x, "maybe"
subtle sparrow
F3 also looking like it might be obsolete, will update soon
storm leaf
well if it's 1.5 i might be able to undo this run and actually do b16
so let me save scum and i'll try
glad iris
For the first time I tried to skip F1 and it worked
storm leaf
what mult?
glad iris
Many
swift maple
What's the fleet dmg and hp
storm leaf
I'm trying at 1.6 and not having much luck
storm leaf
I'm sure someoen could do it at 1.6 but it aint gonna be ME
glad iris
F3 also looking like it might be obsolete, will update soon
Saved another 30 by skipping F3
subtle sparrow
B9 looks super hard without F2 though, skipping F2 seems sketchy
yeah don't think it's happening
glad iris
It does seem like a wall
subtle sparrow
can't even get beam cruiser before that to test it
storm leaf
i didnt unlock heavy cruiser until after bb1
subtle sparrow
Saved another 30 by skipping F3
my runs weren't as optimal but still saved some FR, good to know
beam definitely seems overspecialized
worse against no regen shielded mediums
fleet surge
got some B13
i think 75.47 with 1.6x
languid robin
Wait how do some people have G7 tag?
storm leaf
hmmm i'm 9.7 fr shy of the 1 clear of b16 guess i gotta try and optimize
atomic grotto
there's a g7 tag?
swift maple
They can fake their name
atomic grotto
oh
glad iris
You've been bamboozled
swift maple
It's (deceit) particiularly unfunny
languid robin
That's fair, I assumed the name link overrode it
wispy marten
I'm very late to this but literally same
I did like the first 5 battles then realized I was forgetting how normal fleet worked
glad iris
You can edit your name after link and it'll stay
austere adder
could double check b9 with support on 1.3 i guess, it has a ton of reinforcement...
there isnt one
austere adder
was it just right before I nuked the 0.63?
atomic grotto
no i have it right now in-game
austere adder
oh, different ships probably one sec
atomic grotto
atomic grotto
that's usually true bc the enemy base is the last guy alive
but i guess not with perma reinforcements
wispy marten
Is there a specific ship I should be taking at L1 here?
Can't figure out which one would be best
I've done a few runs, got BB1, just asking now
subtle sparrow
B22 reinforcements are busted
atomic grotto
default to fighter ig
swift maple
Fighter, prob
subtle sparrow
this is not an early node
gonna have to cope with hazards on the D2 highway for a while
wispy marten
fighter was my inital thought but then I went "maybe I'm baiting myself"
subtle sparrow
Fighter has been good for me so far this galaxy
swift maple
The different ones yes
glad iris
B22 reinforcements are busted
You're supposed to deal B21 first
wispy marten
here's one main straight line
glad iris
They're numbered in order
swift maple
They are numbered in intended clear order
glad iris
As if it was a design choice hmm
swift maple
Nah, random
glad iris
Must be
swift maple
I saw the livestream where Sylv threw dice on a board
fleet surge
B13 75.47 1.6x
fleet surge
B14 89.2 1.6x Hazard
swift maple
Use the sheet, we don't know layout 😛
fleet surge
ive used the sheet updated and notified in the chat thx
storm leaf
i wonder if i can find a way to do b16 at 240 with 1.7x
storm leaf
cause i've tried a couple combos and can't make it to b16 with 260
swift maple
If you find a better clear on same stats just replace rename and delete
I guess one has HC and one doesn't, so fair
atomic grotto
Galaxy History For UNND-GLX-z69-3
Run 1: B1 Cleared, B2 Cleared, F1 Unlocked, B3 Cleared, B4 Cleared, B5 Cleared, S1 Level 1, B6 Cleared, B7 Cleared, R1 Level 1, R2 Level 1
Run 2: F2 Unlocked, S2 Level 1, B8 Cleared, B9 Cleared, B10 Cleared, R1 Level 2
Run 3: S1 Level 2, B11 Cleared, B12 Cleared, R2 Level 2, R3 Level 1
Run 4: F3 Unlocked, S1 Level 3, BB1 Cleared, BB1 Cleared, R1 Level 3
bb1 is finished, gonna take a break
i see on the sheet people are up to b19
you didn't do the stupid run 3 b12 strat
oh ok
atomic grotto
that's so long
glad iris
Galaxy History For UNND-GLX-z69-3
Run 1: B1 Cleared, B2 Cleared, R1 Level 1, F1 Unlocked, B3 Cleared, B4 Cleared, B5 Cleared, B6 Cleared, S1 Level 1, B7 Cleared, R2 Level 1
Run 2: F2 Unlocked, S2 Level 1, B8 Cleared, B9 Cleared, B10 Cleared
Run 3: R1 Level 2, S1 Level 2, B10 Cleared, B11 Cleared, R2 Level 2
Run 4: F3 Unlocked, S1 Level 3, BB1 Cleared
Run 5: BB1 Cleared, BB1 Cleared, S1 Level 4, B12 Cleared
Run 6: S2 Level 2, HF Level 1, R1 Level 3
Run 7: R3 Level 1, B13 Cleared, B14 Cleared, R3 Level 2
Run 8: S1 Level 5, B15 Cleared, B16 Cleared, R2 Level 3, R1 Level 4
Run 9: B17 Cleared, S3 Level 1, S3 Level 2
Run 10: S3 Level 3, R2 Level 4
Run 11: S2 Level 3, B18 Cleared, B19 Cleared, R3 Level 3
Run 12: BE Level 1, R2 Level 5, R1 Level 5, R1 Level 6
atomic grotto
when is HF first actually useful
subtle sparrow
2 deploy kill hmm
atomic grotto
i guess the .05 FR is always nice to pick up
glad iris
when is HF first actually useful
I'm guessing somewhere in B20-22
fleet surge
got very good (improvement)
B14 77.67 1.6x Hazard
storm leaf
this doesn't seem right for b13
fleet surge
this doesn't seem right for b13
why dont u like it?
swift maple
Ah, B14 is the first major grind roadblock
storm leaf
it didnt work
subtle sparrow
when is HF first actually useful
Have a Heavyless clear of B13, 105.59 which isn't ideal, beam cruiser probably saves some FR
atomic grotto
b13, huh
fleet surge
this doesn't seem right for b13
sorry ive bought fighter
storm leaf
if i switch the fighters to rail gun i can clear it at 80 just as my last guy dies lol
subtle sparrow
oh thought you were talking about BE
storm leaf
but the clear with the loadout doesnt clear it for me
subtle sparrow
Heavy Cruiser is... sometimes a little better than cruiser, I have seen some results immediately but my result posts are also sponsored by the imposter
fleet surge
it didnt work
u should buy fighter at the starting node of galaxy for 20 fr
or else its 85.47 instead of 75.47
swift maple
I have no chance, right? Just invest in GF node and restart?
subtle sparrow
yeah
or if you have them available, spend FR on HF
GF might be a better purchase to level 1?
swift maple
I got HF already
storm leaf
u should buy fighter at the starting node of galaxy for 20 fr
or else its 85.47...
even with that, as pictured in the screenshot with 1.7 mult it doesnt even clear it. could be the extra .1 doinking ship movement but i can't get it to work without switching fighters to rail gun and i clear and everything dies
swift maple
GF it is
fleet surge
its for 1.6x not 1.7x
storm leaf
i can get 75 with this
without CL on corvette everything dies
seems weird the .1 would swing it that bad
fleet surge
hold on are u saying it doesnt work for different stats?
well cause uve got different stats sadly(((
it works for 1.6x
swift maple
Lmao
subtle sparrow
hmmm
storm leaf
well at least i got a 75 at 1.7x with HC, i'm gonna take out the 97.5 1.7x
that way bio doesnt shank me
storm leaf
it's in there
subtle sparrow
Heavy Cruiser would be nice to spread overdeployment costs
too bad I needed regular cruisers this run
hmmm or do i
storm leaf
im trying to find a way to clear b16 this go
so im trying to save as much fr as i can
fleet surge
btw i think some1 could get rid of some layouts less optimised with same stats and ships in google table
subtle sparrow
maybe I go back to heavy cruiser
glad iris
1shot B21
covert birch
15 runs in and i got B21 finished
storm leaf
ahhh i saved enough to make it work
covert birch
all my hazards have been done in one shot
storm leaf
that 20 point optimization i found for b13 saved me
fleet surge
ahhh i saved enough to make it work
even if b15 will be cheaper ive got no FR this run... but ill do it later then
ok its B15 time atm
covert birch
Cruiser beams are such good boss shredders lmao
glad iris
The heavy cruiser in middle is traitor! Stopped moving and attacking
storm leaf
they had too many taco tuesday tacos
fleet surge
overheat
glad iris
Now on 2x
storm leaf
ohhh i have enough extra fr to level up my gf maybe
subtle sparrow
I took this layout and replaced 2 cruisers for 2 heavies
I wanted to do regular cruiser at M1 for B17 to lower overdeploy costs, but it's a bit more expensive to run through B12-16 without the heavies it seems, and I have the FR to fight B20/21 so it doesn't work out to use regular cruisers this run
covert birch
I did B21 with 3 Beams, 2 Armor Cruisers, 2 fighters and 1 corvette
storm leaf
i always struggle to decide if i should raise my GF or get more scrap
i feel like scrap long term is better
covert birch
i always struggle to decide if i should raise my GF or get more scrap
same
subtle sparrow
I always want to minimize GF investment
glad iris
My B21 1shot setup
covert birch
how much resources
storm leaf
i had a run when unlocking f3 i think i just had a ton of fr i couldnt do anything with so i dumped my gf
boreal dome
is there a bug with finding matching clears? It seems to be forgetting from run to run
covert birch
i havnt had any
storm leaf
make sure you're picking the f's back up
that's what's been getting me i'll see no matching and realize i forgot the f
boreal dome
no, i have my fighters and my heavy cruiser
glad iris
Do you have support nodes enabled?
storm leaf
wtf f7 only does one node on the complete other side of the galaxy?
glad iris
It's meant to be super late
storm leaf
it's BAIT
storm leaf
f8 is at least locked behind d8
fleet surge
woohoo b15 79.48 Hazard
glad iris
Almost as if that's not the intented orded
storm leaf
i probably wont try and lower f7 unless i've got no other use until i've actually gotten over there
subtle sparrow
My B21 1shot setup
don't have the same Fleet Multiplier and the stupid beam cruisers freeze up, but was able to get a one shot with this
storm leaf
oh sylv numbered these so weird
glad iris
Hol up
glad iris
don't have the same Fleet Multiplier and the stupid beam cruisers freeze up, but...
What if you add F3
Don't think we used that
storm leaf
so i need to go through D2 to clear B21 to make B22 have one less hazard... right?
glad iris
oh sylv numbered these so weird
The numbers are the intented order
Yes
tl;dr smallest battle node next
storm leaf
so i have to go D1, B18, B19, d2, B20, B21
just seems weird cause i have to throw away a bunch at both d's back to back
On G5 it was kind of a one way or the other bit
glad iris
The cost reduces by 50% each time
storm leaf
the first time hurts pretty bigly
storm leaf
at least i'm down to 1.5 days of fuel so i can go to bed
maybe i'll synth enough to be able to do 126 and get some more FR
glad iris
still can't do your layout, 4724 damage
My dmg+hp is every so slightly higher, maybe it has larger impact due to breakpoints (ships dying at certain timing)
subtle sparrow
I can do a 2 shot with 220 FR spent each wave but that's just worse than 320 one shot
glad iris
subtle sparrow
this is better than before though
if I was more efficient with some of my previous runs I could probably use your deploy
but I'm honestly going through fleet fatigue from however many runs it's been
glad iris
It's been a good few hours
subtle sparrow
no beams with the above layout is 279.39 which.... isn't as big of an edge as I was hoping
fleet surge
i wish b16 would be doable with 200fr deploy at 1.6x - thats all i have atm
swift maple
Grind moar
glad iris
Have you used armored cruiser?
subtle sparrow
Have you used armored cruiser?
worse in this case
this is as good as I can get it
glad iris
I got 100% replication rate on my own setup
9680 damage with 2.025x damage (same as yours)
205.72 used
autumn blaze
How do you deploy Heavy Cruiser after unlocking it? Doesn't seem to show up for me ...
glad iris
You need to pick it up from M1 node, under B9
So instead of getting 2nd cruiser you get the heavy one
autumn blaze
Ah, I see, thanks 👍
swift maple
Is it work getting damage on B16 with 197 FR or investing in GF
glad iris
GF should be your final option
fleet surge
i think im not even gonna try B16 this time - ive had enough time with b13-14-15 and now will just start over..
dusky plover
is there a setup for bb1?
dusky plover
oh didn't see that, thanks
fleet surge
has some1 deleted my BB1 setup from sheets?
but it had different ships - heavy cruiser...
acoustic jetty
doesnt work for me, is this wrong patch?
acoustic jetty
yeah i consistently get 21.52
acoustic jetty
ok, sheet edited to that then
swift maple
Yup
glad iris
That might be support bug?
swift maple
Oh maybe IDFK
Point is, buggy
Myabe Sylv will have a successful, no bugs, galaxy launch by G29
Anyway, piss 197 FR down the drain with a B16 attempt or GF
😭
Grrrr
It doesn't really matter
acoustic jetty
GF sucks
glad iris
acoustic jetty
if you can even scratch the paint, hitting the boss is probably better
tidal otter
the advisor reckons I can do B8 with these ships but I have no idea how to even get close
swift maple
Yeah no damage
swift maple
the advisor reckons I can do B8 with these ships but I have no idea how to even ...
Advisor is bad
Use the sheet
tidal otter
understandable thank you
atomic grotto
oh yeah i should've asked earlier
what was the # of runs g6 took on average during testing
swift maple
I can recheck
atomic grotto
yeah im just planning the UT usages rn
swift maple
One sec
Ok someone took 255
But that's screwing around
Or bugged or smth
Oh, 70
Fuck, ouch
It's supposed to take 2 Reinforces
So 70 is "correct" I imagine
languid quest
when did you guys stop taking f1 node?
swift maple
We're testing that right now, I can't do it at 1.5x
Someone did 1.7 I think, another 2.1
languid quest
rough
acoustic jetty
it's dynamic too
swift maple
Wait, why?
acoustic jetty
i just mean, if you find a "solution" for 1.6x say, but then someone else finds a better clear with F1 support at 1.6x. you solution is "wrong" now
acoustic jetty
ugh, mid galaxy when it's realistic for people to have GF levels
the sheet will be gross
autumn owl
How far did you get on 4-5 runs? Haven’t had much time to dedicate to it yet, I’m fighting the first boss
autumn owl
Already behind in efficiency 😭
swift maple
No worries
If you are, it's 1 or 2 more travels
It means nothing for months of EoC
If it makes it any better, I could have saved 20 or so FR last run
So that I could have maybe made a dent in B16 LOL
autumn owl
But all the cool kids will laugh at me 😜
swift maple
Who cares
I don't mean to be rude
The koolest kats are timeskippers
Everyone else is a lowly scrub peasant
fleet surge
pls only delete from spreadsheet if better setup with same ships available at same stats!!!!!
some1 prefer heavy cruiser or stuff should have options
glad iris
Hol up
swift maple
LOL
glad iris
BB1 doesn't want to die
fleet surge
thats ok, speaking about bb1 some1 found much better one it seems , but i remember G5 sheet was all filled with fighters instead of corvettes that was annoying
swift maple
If it makes it any better, I could have saved 20 or so FR last run
I could have saved 80, YIKES
RIP me
Now I'm a base attempt behind 😭
Gotta cope and tell myself it won't matter
acoustic jetty
in past galaxy i think fairly late BB was better anyway? (though you don't have to wait to get the clear bonus)
glad iris
There's no need to rush BBs for fleet progress
acoustic jetty
you get unlock a good scrap farm node, but you cost a lot of FR
glad iris
You gotta factor in F3 as well
acoustic jetty
F3 is interesting. is there going to be stat bands where you can blow past B12 but not B21 & B23
if so it might go take F3 -> dont take -> take -> dont take
as you stat up and progress
glad iris
Last time I checked I save 1 FR skipping F3 if I do all associated nodes
Think I had 2.1x stats
acoustic jetty
at what stats?
fleet surge
so is this B3 bugged?
if confirmed bugged we should get rid of it
i get 27.73 FR with it
acoustic jetty
...does the other solution given at 1.5x do better than that?
otherwise it's still the best 1.6 so just change the number
oh i see the 25.06 now, so yeah it's obsolete
glad iris
Perfection
fickle flame
B9 Clear - Second Visit, First Fighter - 1.2 Fleet Multiplier - Hazard and Support Active
120 committed, 117.57 spent, reliable
sharp thorn
managed to eek out a 1 shot against b16 with 1.5x
fickle flame
damn you guys getting far
fickle flame
I got 69 runs to clear b46 on s123 FR
fickle flame
though a lot of earlier nodes were adjusted in testing
For us at max FR, I around 60 runs for all artis is probably it
sharp thorn
I wish I was better with my FR but I prob couldn't hit 280
I just wanted to kill the hazard so I didn't have to slog back to it
swift maple
True true
For stats and resources, do you guys generally do whichever is cheaper?
Or whichever gets you more stuff per scrap
glad iris
Per scrap
swift maple
Is 0.05 resources worth 0.05 stats?
fickle flame
S nodes are 0.1 while R nodes are 0.025-0.03
swift maple
When Caias and I were originally testing fleet
He mentioned he weighted stats much higher
fickle flame
same
glad iris
I was thinking what the ratio between then would be today
sharp thorn
I make it up as I go. Stats if I have FR left and there's something cheap. Resource if I'm running out
fickle flame
although R gets increasingly valuable with increasingly higher base FR
glad iris
You get max FR in 126, which most people in EOC had already
swift maple
Yeah
swift maple
Yeah, fair
glad iris
But I just cleared B25 for 2nd time, and funded F4
sharp thorn
still have 2 days, 17 hours of fuel left
swift maple
Did you get the Crew Supremacy survives reinforce?
Oh fuck me
Gonna be stuck here for some time, thank god for 50% now LOL
glad iris
Yea the 50% makes it really smooth after a few runs
swift maple
Is it B17 or fund D1?
glad iris
Can't wait til end game
sharp thorn
b17 for stats i guess
glad iris
Since you've never done B17/S3 do those
sharp thorn
I'll follow the script and go for beam foundry after that
glad iris
B17 gives you small boost to mastery gain and fuel efficiency, and cheaper resources form S3
swift maple
Do people have an HC clear
sharp thorn
regen mediums are looming
swift maple
B17 gives you small boost to mastery gain and fuel efficiency, and cheaper resou...
Stats from*?
glad iris
Stats from*?
Clearing the node B17 for the first time
swift maple
So addicted to the sheet that I can't thonk for myself
swift maple
Clearing the node B17 for the first time
Yes yes and S3 is stats
Not resources
Unless I misunderstood
swift maple
Minor micro-optimization
Instead of putting 90 into S3 (I get the level, but 180 so 90 leftover)
Do I put 90 into S1 so that I can benefit from 1.6x earlier next run
glad iris
That's not how it works
swift maple
Oh?
fickle flame
you can't afford it until then
swift maple
I mean this situation
glad iris
ah yes
swift maple
you can't afford it until then
Huh?
Yeah my bad
I meant the 180 total so 90 rollover
glad iris
Did you get the Crew Supremacy survives reinforce?
Running down middle, I'm 2k artifacts short
swift maple
RIP
Does one want to stall for 1 night to save 2 days
I trust you'll make the smort moove
glad iris
You know those experiments where a kid is offered a piece of candy now, or 2 in 5 minutes
glad iris
My mind is telling me to wait the 5 mins but I always take the one instantly
swift maple
2 more runs tomorrow
You'll get more efficiency
Sleep now and eat the fruits tomorrow
mint roost
hmm, i wonder if you're supposed to be able to win after all your ships are dead
swift maple
You are, if shots still exist
glad iris
In fact I'll be a kid right now and go fetch candy from the drawer
swift maple
In fact I'll be a kid right now and go fetch candy from the drawer
TIMESKIPPING IS CHEATING
fleet surge
i dunno about BB2 but w/o it, at x1.6
18.65 + 14.07 + 44.29 = 77,01 < 100
so can go No Sup
swift maple
Ah, nice
fleet surge
or can find better setup
glad iris
What's your setup for B3 B4 no F1?
fleet surge
thats not mine spreadsheet
glad iris
Mine sucks
fleet surge
What's your setup for B3 B4 no F1?
its on sheets - refresh
fleet surge
some layouts got completely ruined with stats increase by 0.025 or 0.1 so that happens
glad iris
I re-run my layouts often, and I've seen many "accept previous" clears
acoustic jetty
anyone want to check my work on B11 for me? i posted a "28.96 (1.4x)". the other entries all seem strange
0.83 FR wasted smh
fleet surge
try the one with heavy cruiser at your 1.4x ive had 1.5x by that time
swift maple
hasty fjord
Spicy for B26
fleet surge
when should we bother skipping F2?
hasty fjord
When it doesn't save you at least 100 FR on B7, B8 and B9?
glad iris
What they said
acoustic jetty
feel like it should be 2.?x
hasty fjord
I'm at 2.225 and I still use it
glad iris
I was 2.1 when I started doing it and I saved like 20FR
hasty fjord
I was 2.1 when I started doing it and I saved like 20FR
What is your committed FR for each of the nodes?
fleet surge
pls dont delete any input from sheets unless absolutely certain
hasty fjord
Single charge laser corvette with shields
hasty fjord
D1, reduces cost
swift maple
Yes I'm getting D1 regardless
hasty fjord
Unless you haven't cleared B18 yet
swift maple
Do I push B18/B19 or get D2
hasty fjord
I always push for the fuel efficiency
glad iris
If you think about it Reduced cost of D-nodes is insignificant in the long run
Since you're going for galaxy completion, you will always use X amount of FR over the entire galaxy on the node
swift maple
Correct
hasty fjord
Btw, I cleared B20/21 before I did B18/19
glad iris
The more accurate assessment would be the scrap you gain from it
acoustic jetty
Why the diff, they both have HC
do they have the same ship unlocks? one has 3 fighters one has frigates
hasty fjord
R4 is juicy
austere adder
once you guys get on 0.63.0.2 let me know if still encounter any inconsistency spots
austere adder
I made some completely 100% for sure inconsequential changes to debug it better
and it stopped happening
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
glad iris
I mean
It did stop appearing for me for some reason at one point
But happened again in another node right after
austere adder
< ok so ya maybe, but like restart, reload, re poke etc all stayed working for some reason so ><
hasty fjord
Let's go! OMG it's so nice
sharp thorn
F1 is overpriced after 1.6x or so anyway
glad iris
I'd rather have the extra damage on BB2
hollow island
should be z69 not Z69 right
swift maple
Let's go! OMG it's so nice
Grats
austere adder
G6/z69-3
hasty fjord
F2 is cheaper if you do B10
atomic grotto
zzz my internet died so i can't open the sheet on my computer anymore
glad iris
F2 is cheaper if you do B10
No reason to skip B10 it if you get it for 5FR
swift maple
RIP
glad iris
I'm 2.425
swift maple
This guy has a GF ||node level||
atomic grotto
i did the prestige for manifest though
hasty fjord
F2 allows you to do B10 for 5 FR
atomic grotto
big zoom for cap resources
swift maple
Is B17 worth it every time?
glad iris
I'm not 127 and won't be for some time
swift maple
I've been pushing down the D1 path
glad iris
Idk how but I'm way behind
swift maple
You weren't at EoC
glad iris
I was
swift maple
These guys were hardpushing EoC for months
glad iris
I have been for 2+ months
hasty fjord
Is B17 worth it every time?
I would say no - but I haven't tried it in a while
glad iris
I was EoC when G5 dropped
swift maple
I have been for 2+ months
They were for 5?
Odd
Why aren't you in S127 then?
Geninely curious
glad iris
I didn't push capital stats
glad iris
I see most have Reactor T19
swift maple
IDK if I'm gonna push to S127, it's really nice though
swift maple
Oh you don't need to reinforce to activate them I'm bad, it's prestige
hasty fjord
IDK if I'm gonna push to S127, it's really nice though
You should if you can - there is another shard slot
glad iris
I'm getting Capitalx2 from 120 humanity
hasty fjord
But IDK if I can
Did you check Synth and Warp? Lots of boosts from there after the update
hasty fjord
Rip ok
swift maple
Yeah I stopped playing after I did Splicing for like 2 weeks or whatever
No more dopamine kekw
glad iris
Today we feast on dopamine
swift maple
I'm getting Capitalx2 from 120 humanity
What's the other node?
glad iris
What's the other node?
I meant this one
swift maple
zzz my internet died so i can't open the sheet on my computer anymore
Ping intentional, want me to stream?
We are collectively addicted to the sheet
atomic grotto
nah, im just doing shitty mobile sheeting
swift maple
OOF
fickle flame
F2 is worth mainly because of b9
austere adder
editing sheets on your phone is probably the most insane thing one can do
mint kiln
where can i find this sheet ? 🙂
fickle flame
pin
austere adder
pin
fickle flame
lol
fleet surge
my current run so far
just want to post why not
Galaxy History For UNND-GLX-z69-3
Run 1: B1 Cleared, B2 Cleared, F1 Unlocked, B3 Cleared, B4 Cleared, B5 Cleared, S1 Level 1, B6 Cleared, B7 Cleared
Run 2: F2 Unlocked, S2 Level 1, B8 Cleared, B9 Cleared, R1 Level 1, R2 Level 1
Run 3: S1 Level 2, B10 Cleared, B11 Cleared, F3 Unlocked, R1 Level 2, R2 Level 2
Run 4: S1 Level 3, B12 Cleared, HF Level 1, R3 Level 1
Run 5: BB1 Cleared, BB1 Cleared, S2 Level 2
Run 6: S1 Level 4, B13 Cleared, B14 Cleared, B15 Cleared, R3 Level 2
Run 7: B16 Cleared, R1 Level 3, R1 Level 4, R2 Level 3, R2 Level 4
swift maple
Thank you for whoever is doing B19 rn
I owe you FR
I like how most of us are blindly following slightly shitty builds
sharp thorn
glad iris
You lost
swift maple
You will lose
I can't get this to work
Yes I restarted and updated game
And beams MELT command ships (cuz they don't instakill back) wow
glad iris
Ironically they're horrible against BBs
swift maple
BB isn't "battle with a command ship"
glad iris
I think advisor gives you 2 more heavys to middle
swift maple
So my bad
glad iris
I understood so np
glad iris
This is my setup
swift maple
Yeah so I can't clear
atomic grotto
im getting close
sharp thorn
what's your mult
swift maple
Ok so like
Game GIVES me free win
LOL
@austere adder Might want to fix this, explaining in DMs
fickle flame
And beams MELT command ships (cuz they don't instakill back) wow
they sucked for so long in testing sylv had to buff them like 3 times lol
glad iris
There's some sussy behaviour with previous best
glad iris
they sucked for so long in testing sylv had to buff them like 3 times lol
They still suck most of the time tho
But at least they're sometimes usable
fickle flame
well they aren't supposed to be good most of the time anyways
swift maple
There's some sussy behaviour with previous best
I think I explained what I did
It's prob hella abuseable
So just gonna have him fix it
glad iris
If you finished node can you head to practice
And repeat the battle without support active
swift maple
I don't want to finish the node although I can't export my save from here
atomic grotto
swift maple
HOLY SHIT
swift maple
Yeah this is a BUG
pseudo yacht
Really loving the new upgrades, I mean Supremacy, Battle Ship and universal Data Cores are such QoL 😍
glad iris
Yup
swift maple
Ok I think he knows what it is
swift maple
Yeah gonna seal my lips
Sorry
I don't recommend sharing abusable bugs though
Not sure on Sylv's stance
glad iris
You either write it in #1079990496836980787 or contact dircetly
There will always be easily abusable bugs that you can find in bug forums
atomic grotto
hmm, someone got a 1.5 B13 with 65 according to advisor
fickle flame
picture perfect
acoustic jetty
I have a two shot BB1 at 1.5x for 160FR
seems ok? could still just wait for the oneshot
fickle flame
that seems good
swift maple
Mini switch your role back and I'll ||NOT|| spill the beans
swift maple
You either write it in <#1079990496836980787> or contact dircetly
I contacted directly
atomic grotto
I have a two shot BB1 at 1.5x for 160FR
i did it at 200+220 1.4
it's a lot of scrap
swift maple
Why did it take more FR the first time
atomic grotto
because it was 720/780
fickle flame
clearing bb1 early is pretty much worth it
swift maple
Ah, I see
Do I want to abuse the bug and be the first non-timeskipper to clear G6
No I must remain pure
acoustic jetty
ah, i makes a lot of sense to do BB1 now actually, because i cant get to B16, so b14 and b15 aren't even good
swift maple
Fighting demons here guys help me
acoustic jetty
just hazard fighting for a bit of scrap
atomic grotto
pretty sure abusing bug is worse than timeskipping on the cheese-o-meter
swift maple
Yes yes
acoustic jetty
those support shots were in the air imo
killing the enemy and losing all your ships is a win, so why shouldnt that also count
swift maple
Ayyy he can reproduce
When the bug is fixed I'll spill the beans
GN y'all
Please fill out B22+ before I wake up thx
❤️
xD
glad iris
Please fill out B22+ before I wake up thx
Oh sorry I once again forgot to take screenshots
Maybe in G7 I'll do better job
swift maple
No worries
Lol
Practice mode exists or your current clears should be fine-ish?
You're at 2.2+ though
glad iris
I'm like 2.5
languid robin
It really does seem like there's a bug with autobattle getting FR for you
That is with F2 but stilll
atomic grotto
65.59
sweeping
weird
advisor told me 41/50 for a thing
i did it and got 44/50
now advisor tells me 44/50 for the thing
did i break it
@austere adder probably another busted advisor
30 FR, but only 15.78 damage spent?
austere adder
lol just abarely getting past the filter then
sharp thorn
I can't get this to work
if you're still doing b21, this worked
acoustic jetty
reinforcements not saving weapons is a pain. it's not just advisors, our own best clears are wrong
need to be manually set every time
atomic grotto
these kinds of fights are so boring to replay
acoustic jetty
agreed. maybe some kind of mercy rule?
if you shoot the same cruiser for 10 seconds you just explode
or nerf cruiser fire rate slightly but it increases over time
austere adder
reinforcements not saving weapons is a pain. it's not just advisors, our own bes...
ya thats a big fix too unfortunately blargh
fickle flame
that don't look right
languid robin
that don't look right
That's what im saying, I let auto battle happen after getting s nodes and I finally went back to do some manual runs and have seen a few sus ones
austere adder
That's what im saying, I let auto battle happen after getting s nodes and I fina...
what version?
languid robin
V 0.63.0.1
fickle flame
aghhh damnit I forgot to put my leftover FR in BE and then left galaxy, and it all went into GF
austere adder
and you did the auto run on that version?
fickle flame
can there be some kind of like, priority list for leftover FR if you leave galaxy without spending it, and GF goes at the very bottom
languid robin
Yeah, been trying to update and verify everytime I see the notif for bug fix
atomic grotto
ok i've been able to axe f1 at 1.5
f2 idk, the bb1 cheese is really good value and funny
languid robin
Autobattle improve, the one that runs in the background while I do other things
I just let it cook
austere adder
you can run in the background with or without improve but ok with improve I assume
fickle flame
f2 idk, the bb1 cheese is really good value and funny
surely you mean b10
languid robin
Yeah with improve, where it wont show the fight
atomic grotto
sure that too
man i keep forgetting for b7-b9
that i have to set every ship's weapon + armor layout due to reinforcements, not just the ships i manually place
fickle flame
happens a lot
austere adder
Yeah with improve, where it wont show the fight
what is one of the fight configts
languid robin
Let me run back to it and grab it, give me a sec
It is with F2 node, but this is the result with auto improve vs manual
swift maple
can there be some kind of like, priority list for leftover FR if you leave galax...
Post this in my suggestion maybe, and/or a separate one?
swift maple
if you're still doing b21, this worked
Thx, I’ll do it in the morning
fickle flame
Post this in my suggestion maybe, and/or a separate one?
where's at
fickle flame
what is one of the fight configts
wait a minute, are you still awake
atomic grotto
hmm
fickle flame
isn't it like, 3 am for you
atomic grotto
i either get 55 on this or 56.25
fickle flame
guys keep reporting bugs so sylv has to pull an all nighter
atomic grotto
@austere adder non-reinforcement based rng :(
austere adder
rip
austere adder
isn't it like, 3 am for you
I am administiring a thing for work for the next 15ish minutes yet
atomic grotto
first clear is 55
reclears are 56.25
cuz 1 corvette gets owned
or sometimes 60 cuz all corvettes get owned
austere adder
oh laser volley though?
ok probably still related ot that in some way
maybe the support just not working preloaded right
uh, post a seperate bug for this one so I can look tomorrow
fickle flame
is it something about the angle 🤔
vocal aurora
any facing this issue that the heavy cruiser just staying there and do ntg?
fickle flame
ah
vocal aurora
2nd question. I on B21 i killed the boss and all mob but it still show i lose because the new mob are keep spawn. is this normal?
vocal aurora
https://discord.com/channels/1023372620705566740/1387292006463832175
i see.
fickle flame
2nd question. I on B21 i killed the boss and all mob but it still show i lose be...
fixed on most recent patch
acoustic jetty
my B16 just barely doesn't work on 1.6x. ending a run with it 90% dead. so close
it's 10FR improvement to the sheet at 1.7x now for what that's worth :<
fickle flame
editing go
crisp ridge
@austere adder is Fleet node A9 supposed to provide 121 artifacts when A8 provides 730
in G6 naturally
hasty fjord
It's repeatable for 50 FR
hasty fjord
It's better that way - the ratio is roughly the same and you can dump into it with smaller increments
crisp ridge
that's still 726 vs the 730 from before for the same investment, but I'm sure it all makes sense
vocal aurora
B22
hollow island
huh
vocal aurora
err same question what does this means?
slate moss
I guess this is how many of your combinations have been saved in the Fleet Advisor for other players (also just 1 for me)
cursive scarab
I believe it means you have the best clear (for your set of upgrades/ships at the time?) for that many nodes
languid quest
some of these setups in the sheet are very dubious
i guess that's reinforcements being bad....
maiden pollen
not working🤔
fickle flame
i guess that's reinforcements being bad....
they're actually good, idk 
fervent zinc
some of these setups in the sheet are very dubious
dubious how so?
wtf is this supposed to mean
fervent zinc
that explains nothing about this string
crisp ridge
saddest message in all of fleet
fervent zinc
what is with everything after ///
subtle sparrow
The FR "saved" from doing support I imagine
fervent zinc
I wish google docs were easier to rearrange images 😦
subtle sparrow
25.06 would be the support clear, meaning the battle is 18.65 FR cheaper, but the cost of the support node would negate the benefit
fickle flame
basically
fervent zinc
you mean 18 FR more expensive?
fickle flame
well, the battle without the support is 18 FR more expensive, reading it differently
crisp ridge
Has anyone worked out when it's appropriate to skip F1 and F2 nodes?
fervent zinc
not sure what answer you want beyond the obvious one 😛
fickle flame
Has anyone worked out when it's appropriate to skip F1 and F2 nodes?
I think 1.6x stat to skip F1, for F2 somewhere around 3x stats iirc
possibly worth skipping F2 earlier but you can test that yourself
crisp ridge
I think 1.6x stat to skip F1, for F2 somewhere around 3x stats iirc
forgive me but you'll have to break down what this "stat" is you're referring to
fervent zinc
the S nodes increase your ship stats
fickle flame
reinforcement hazard support scales a lot better than other ones so even if you never skip F2 it's not that bad
fervent zinc
crisp ridge
gotcha, thanks
crisp ridge
where are you viewing this? I can find an allegory in stats and info, but presumably you have it displayed on the fleet screen by default?
crisp ridge
ta
fervent zinc
nice, shaving 20 FR off the spreadsheet lol
oh wait wrong battle 😦
oh well still good result
vague hound
not working🧐
fickle flame
with support yes?
fervent zinc
ya I just tried it too, it works exactly to 24.44
vague hound
Sure. Why isn’t it working for me? The battle fails even at x1.4
fervent zinc
"even at" are you trying it at 1.3?
fickle flame
with support yet?
vague hound
hollow island
fighter no mod
fervent zinc
your fighters are wrong
fervent zinc
neato, skipping F1 is worth it at 1.4x
vague hound
Yeah, I’ll give it a try😆
atomic grotto
behold the power of penny pinching
hollow island
i reached 1.8 and still havent skipped F1
fervent zinc
behold the power of penny pinching
@atomic grotto how is there no 1.4x B5 clear yet? Are you hoarding secrets??
atomic grotto
i did it at 1.5
fervent zinc
shameful
atomic grotto
i was able to optimize support to be like 15 FR lower at 1.4
so it wasn't worth for me then
fervent zinc
are you posting yours? because I just compared the lowest B3/B4/B5 to my run and it's cheaper
atomic grotto
i posted significant layouts to the sheet