Base Carry Challenge | Unnamed Space Idle | Page 2

hollow hinge Nov 7, 2023, 1:18 AM

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yep

halcyon hawk Nov 7, 2023, 9:52 AM

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can confirm this worked for me when the wiki guide did not. My levels were lower than listed, especially in base 2 and 3

tame mortar Nov 7, 2023, 10:44 PM

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https://usi.fandom.com/wiki/Base_Carry

USI Wiki

Base Carry

In 'Base Carry', you must use your modules to provide the ship with its damage and max shield. Building materials represent maximum shields, and components represent attack damage. There are five...

tame mortar Nov 9, 2023, 4:20 AM

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@restive spire are you in challenge now?

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@restive spire ill be heading to bed soon so if you want help... should ask/answer here ;p

restive spire Nov 9, 2023, 4:27 AM

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tame mortar <@111576428226560000> ill be heading to bed soon so if you want help... should a...

tame mortar Nov 9, 2023, 4:28 AM

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base setup didnt follow guide for base 2.
every booster is a stacking penalty... your shooting yourself n foot

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weaposn, i recommend 2 beam/ rest gattlings, shields are fine.

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someone changed wiki...

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base one should be all green

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with 1 or 2 boosters at max

restive spire Nov 9, 2023, 4:32 AM

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tame mortar base one should be all green

this did it thanks

tame mortar Nov 9, 2023, 4:32 AM

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your stats are right border line with boss right now

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boosters was the issue

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thats a heavy penalty

restive spire Nov 9, 2023, 4:33 AM

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ah

tame mortar Nov 9, 2023, 4:34 AM

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can you do me a favor... post building levels you have in both base 1 and base 2 for BC2

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so we have more accurate / updated info

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m=mats, b=boost, p=parts, c=components
@restive spire

restive spire Nov 9, 2023, 4:50 AM

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B1 = M=90 P=84 B=14
B2= M=46 P=42 B=9 C=42

tame mortar Nov 9, 2023, 4:56 AM

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appreciated.

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Follow the wiki or pins https://usi.fandom.com/wiki/Base_Carry

these are building levels that have been confirmed successful

**Base Carry 1 **
B1 -m/32, b/6, c/30

Base Carry 2
B1 = M=90 B=14 C=84
B2= M=46 B=9 P=42 C=42

restive spire Nov 9, 2023, 5:04 AM

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Do module boosts and warp base upgrades work for the base challenge?

tame mortar Nov 9, 2023, 5:05 AM

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depends on said modules and boosts...for damage and shields, no.... for scrap no... for VM yes, synth yes

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the challenge page has rules... if the rule changes normal game play it affects everything in said catagory

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so red are disable completely... green are changes... anything that affects red or green follows these rules... anything not listed, should (in theory) fuction as normal.
i say in theory because weapons are not listed , but due to fact that theres no scrap... you cant get the other milestone abilities that dont affect damage and shields like fire rate or range

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so theres some thinking outside the box you have to look at

fading nest Nov 9, 2023, 5:12 AM

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i may be wrong, but i think base shard was doing nothing as well, so its probably only building levels

tame mortar Nov 9, 2023, 5:12 AM

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fading nest i may be wrong, but i think base shard was doing nothing as well, so its probabl...

base shard affects green.... green rules overides shard,,,

so red are disable completely... green are changes... anything that affects red or green follows these rules...

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i was very specific with my wording ;p

still tulip Nov 12, 2023, 9:11 PM

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Base carry 2

Base 1 BM89/B. Comp 85/B 16
Base 2 BM43/P40/C. Comp43/B8

tame mortar Nov 12, 2023, 9:46 PM

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still tulip Base carry 2 Base 1 BM89/B. Comp 85/B 16 Base 2 BM43/P40/C. Comp43/B8

theres no lable for others to know what building lvls these are

still tulip Nov 12, 2023, 9:46 PM

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from left to right

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i'll edit it..

peak verge Nov 13, 2023, 9:56 PM

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base carry 2:

4 beams/two continuous shields
base 1 BM96/C91/B17
base 2 BM28/P23/B5/C24

Convert each battle multi to damage in base 2 after getting hit until only 2 BM left, then convert shield into damage in base 1 after each hit up to two at the last few hits

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?

tame mortar Nov 13, 2023, 10:07 PM

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peak verge base carry 2: 4 beams/two continuous shields base 1 BM96/C91/B17 base 2 BM28/P2...

this is bad advice and setup in general. you skated through challenge because you building lvls are much higher than is required and advisable..

tldr - you made the challenge harder, then over powered it with stats... its not new player friendly

peak verge Nov 13, 2023, 10:09 PM

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base 1 is easier to get materials than base 2

tame mortar Nov 13, 2023, 10:10 PM

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peak verge base 1 is easier to get materials than base 2

what are you even talking about...? you dont "get/build" materials... in challenge..

the buildings "behave" entirley differently

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peak verge Nov 13, 2023, 10:11 PM

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you are saying that i overleveled my building levels... but its only high in base 1... in base 2 im severly underleveled.. im missing two nodes

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and ur saying its not newbie friendly.. but im only 8.5 days played

tame mortar Nov 13, 2023, 10:11 PM

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in base 2 you didnt even use the building thats "underlvled"

peak verge Nov 13, 2023, 10:13 PM

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well to each their own.. im severely behind in warp drive upgrades to afford base 2 production improvements... i just posted what i did it to clear challenge

compact raft Nov 17, 2023, 1:20 PM

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BCS5

merry crescent Nov 17, 2023, 7:51 PM

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that means need unlock all or not last 1-2? or only 2?

hidden merlin Nov 17, 2023, 7:54 PM

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if you only have 1-2 slots left to unlock in Base 4, then it's fine

past bough Nov 19, 2023, 11:40 AM

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what do I do wrong?

tame mortar Nov 19, 2023, 11:40 AM

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past bough what do I do wrong?

first. screenshot challenge page. next ss ship layout. then we can go over bases .;p

past bough Nov 19, 2023, 11:41 AM

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tame mortar Nov 19, 2023, 11:43 AM

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ship cores wrong.
Beam x2
rest Gatling
3x Continuous

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next bases are wrong

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be sure to check building lvls as well

past bough Nov 19, 2023, 11:44 AM

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tame mortar next bases are wrong

I used the one in the pin, I though it was stronger :S

tame mortar Nov 19, 2023, 11:45 AM

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if you did your bases still dont match

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and its still highly dependent on building lvls

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from pin

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yours

past bough Nov 19, 2023, 11:47 AM

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oh yeah my bad I missclicked a green insted of a booster

tame mortar Nov 19, 2023, 11:47 AM

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anyway. swicth cores to my sugestion and you might be fine...

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if it doesnt work drop out lvl buildings a bit and try agin with either wiki or ;pin.... but use my weapon / shields... they are better... than using missiles...

past bough Nov 19, 2023, 11:50 AM

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well i think i'll level building for 20 more level then come back to it

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I think the 7 level diff is a big problem

ripe folio Nov 19, 2023, 9:51 PM

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a). retrofit b). if my setup doesn't work, try removing the 2 boosters in the top left of base 1 (not suggested)

past bough Nov 20, 2023, 11:25 AM

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Completed it , just needed the 2 last slots

limpid pecan Nov 25, 2023, 1:08 AM

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This worked best for me for base carry 5. Less battle multiplier from base 3 and boost multpilier from base 4, but no boost multiplier penalty.
(removing image to put updated one below)

tame mortar Nov 25, 2023, 1:27 AM

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limpid pecan This worked best for me for base carry 5. Less battle multiplier from base 3 an...

improper documentation... missing one of the bases, and dont have building lvls for bases / used buildings...

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incomplete info is just as harmful as no info

limpid pecan Nov 25, 2023, 1:28 AM

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didn't include base 2 because best use case I found for it was increasing battle multi by 2%.

ripe folio Nov 25, 2023, 1:29 AM

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Which one are you comparing to?

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The wiki or the pins?

tame mortar Nov 25, 2023, 1:29 AM

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limpid pecan didn't include base 2 because best use case I found for it was increasing battle...

reason is irrelevant, part of problem with wiki was improper documentation. if you want to help write guide or pin then we need full info.

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and with new base coming tomorrow, there surley will be new BC challenge in future as well.. we would greatly appreciate help :p

limpid pecan Nov 25, 2023, 1:35 AM

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Levels - Mats / Parts / Comps / Booster / Drain
Base 1: 334 / na / 334 / 59 / na
Base 2: 257 / 257 / 279 / 50 / na
Base 3: 233 / 226 / 250 / 46 / 10
Base 4: 73 / 70 / 60 / 5 / 4

limpid pecan Nov 25, 2023, 1:43 AM

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ripe folio Which one are you comparing to?

this setup gets me to 2.44e25 attack / 1.34e25 shields
pinned setup gets me to 6.47e24 attack / 8.05e20 shields
wiki setup gets me to 1.13e24 attack / 4.51e24 shields (missing the left center slot on base 4)

tame mortar Nov 25, 2023, 1:46 AM

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limpid pecan

much appreciated for the info and work 😛

ripe folio Nov 25, 2023, 1:46 AM

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It was ages since I have done the challenge. Didn't know that the drains could be boosted in the challenge.

tame mortar Nov 25, 2023, 1:47 AM

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ripe folio It was ages since I have done the challenge. Didn't know that the drains could b...

dont think they are... each building behaves differently

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drains reduce the penalty boosters provide.

limpid pecan Nov 25, 2023, 1:48 AM

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the drains don't get boosted outside the challenge, but they do inside

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as far as I could tell

tame mortar Nov 25, 2023, 1:48 AM

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hmmm interesting. ill have to test more and pay better attention myself on next challenge...

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i used wiki and really didnt do much thinking myself

ripe folio Nov 25, 2023, 1:49 AM

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tame mortar Nov 25, 2023, 1:50 AM

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lol nice.. you load an old save? just for that?

ripe folio Nov 25, 2023, 1:51 AM

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No

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I made a backup

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and reloaded after that

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my setup hadn't really used that tech, so I am not surprised it is weaker

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Tried checking a meme.

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Which means it could handle around S44

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@limpid pecan How does your setup work if you remove the drains in base 4?

limpid pecan Nov 25, 2023, 2:05 AM

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I tried looking at it when you posted the tooltip, and the drains in base 4 made no difference

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but I wasn't able to afford adding another base 4 booster without getting the booster penalty

ripe folio Nov 25, 2023, 2:06 AM

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hmm

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idk then

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But your setup is certainly better and at way lower levels than I suggested

limpid pecan Nov 25, 2023, 2:08 AM

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now that I have it up again and remember tooltips exist, base 3 drain is giving ~2e7 booster penalty reduction, while the base 4 drains give less than 1e3 each

ripe folio Nov 25, 2023, 2:09 AM

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right

old cliff Nov 25, 2023, 8:58 PM

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btw, about this challenge, is vdevice works in this challenge? or is it disabled?

tame mortar Nov 25, 2023, 9:12 PM

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range should work or fire rate... other than that research and synth work..

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rest are useless

fading grotto Nov 26, 2023, 2:30 PM

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What ship loadout should you have for Base Challenge 1?

tame mortar Nov 26, 2023, 2:32 PM

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Beam/2x gating.
continnous sields max..... quanity

fading grotto Nov 26, 2023, 2:32 PM

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1.0 or 2.0?

tame mortar Nov 26, 2023, 2:33 PM

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if you have 2.0 use that for range... as theres no scrap

fading grotto Nov 26, 2023, 2:33 PM

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For what I have available, I'm sitting close to the end of sector 30A at the moment and not really getting any further so I thought to try this.

tame mortar Nov 26, 2023, 2:33 PM

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should have done challenges along time ago

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you slowed your progress down considerably

fading grotto Nov 26, 2023, 2:34 PM

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I've done... I think the first few of the computes. And one synth purity.

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But that explains why this is getting so slow.

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2.0 for the shields, too?

tame mortar Nov 26, 2023, 2:36 PM

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do challenges asap... if you slow down even a little. give challenges a look and see if you can do

fading grotto Nov 26, 2023, 2:36 PM

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Currently 2x Beam, 2x Gatling, 2x Continuous, all 2.0.

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Okay, I'll try to keep those in mind.

craggy flare Nov 27, 2023, 8:58 AM

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ripe folio Tried checking a meme.

I insta cleared C5 with this, thank you

frozen warren Nov 27, 2023, 3:16 PM

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Not sure this is correct place to post this, but Base Carry 2 was flashing green but the 6th wave boss is just destroying me.

tame mortar Nov 27, 2023, 4:45 PM

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frozen warren Not sure this is correct place to post this, but Base Carry 2 was flashing green...

did you follow wiki?
what is you ships, core layout?

frozen warren Nov 27, 2023, 5:08 PM

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tame mortar did you follow wiki? what is you ships, core layout?

Where is the wiki?

I was mostly looking for where to provide feedback as the latest update wanted feedback if you were having issues with challenges and they were flashing green.

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tame mortar Nov 27, 2023, 5:08 PM

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frozen warren Where is the wiki? I was mostly looking for where to provide feedback as the la...

my challenges were done pre update...

frozen warren Nov 27, 2023, 5:08 PM

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tame mortar Nov 27, 2023, 5:08 PM

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boosters are killing you bud

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boosters are penalty

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https://usi.fandom.com/wiki/Base_Carry?so=search

USI Wiki

Base Carry

In 'Base Carry', you must use your modules to provide the ship with its damage and max shield. Building materials represent maximum shields, and components represent attack damage. There are five...

tame mortar Nov 27, 2023, 5:09 PM

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frozen warren

run beam. 2x gatling
continous shields

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or 2 beam / rest gattlings

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use v2+ if you got em

frozen warren Nov 27, 2023, 5:14 PM

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ok retro fit the beams 2x and gattling 2x, continuous shield I think was the biggest difference as the regen was almost on par with the boss damage. Thanks for the pointers.

autumn crag Nov 28, 2023, 8:26 PM

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hmmm I did the wiki build for base 5 but I'm stuck at the middle of 30

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should I switch to deflectors?

tame mortar Nov 28, 2023, 8:26 PM

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let me see ship cores

autumn crag Nov 28, 2023, 8:26 PM

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beam 4, beam 4, missile 4, missile 4, laser 4 laser 4

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3 cont shields

tame mortar Nov 28, 2023, 8:27 PM

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2 beam v2+
rest gatling v2+ 3 contin v2+

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cores wrong

autumn crag Nov 28, 2023, 8:27 PM

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ok

tame mortar Nov 28, 2023, 8:27 PM

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autumn crag beam 4, beam 4, missile 4, missile 4, laser 4 laser 4

this part of wiki is "bad" imo

autumn crag Nov 28, 2023, 8:28 PM

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gats don't have the reach for the chargers at 30

tame mortar Nov 28, 2023, 8:36 PM

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correct?

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you wont kill boss before he gets to you... gats kill boss before he kills you when combined with beams

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about that fire rate

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as damage is coming from base

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charge has range but is limited to damage of base... it lose its real power... and doesnt have fire rate

autumn crag Nov 28, 2023, 11:30 PM

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sorry, my internet went down fo a while, but I really meant that the enemies with charge attacks overwhelm me before the gats even start firing

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even moving them forward wasn't enough

tame mortar Nov 28, 2023, 11:31 PM

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does battl shard in blue give range whil challenge active

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your stats look wrong.. can i see all bases... and which BC challenge are you on?

autumn crag Nov 28, 2023, 11:32 PM

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tame mortar Nov 28, 2023, 11:33 PM

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put battle in blue or red... link blue and red

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base 1 is a;; wrong

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to many boosters = to great a penalty

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base 1 all green with most 4 boosters

autumn crag Nov 28, 2023, 11:35 PM

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damage went down by 11 exponents

tame mortar Nov 28, 2023, 11:36 PM

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because you dont have damage in other base one moment

autumn crag Nov 28, 2023, 11:37 PM

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I followed the wiki, again, is there some better reference here?

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I mean, some message with screenshots

tame mortar Nov 28, 2023, 11:38 PM

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nope my bad i see where problem is... leave weapon cores allone and try this base layout

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autumn crag Nov 28, 2023, 11:39 PM

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damage went up a lot

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the beams should take care of everything now

tame mortar Nov 28, 2023, 11:40 PM

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the wiki is heavy reliant on building lvls but the author didnt provide enough data about all the lvls

autumn crag Nov 28, 2023, 11:40 PM

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it only mentioned mats above 80, and mine were 87

tame mortar Nov 28, 2023, 11:40 PM

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your building lvls to low didnt match wiki

autumn crag Nov 28, 2023, 11:41 PM

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I figured it was fine

tame mortar Nov 28, 2023, 11:41 PM

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mats only maters for green building lmao

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what about booster drain comp etc ;p

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thats issue im sorry

autumn crag Nov 28, 2023, 11:41 PM

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entering sector 30

tame mortar Nov 28, 2023, 11:41 PM

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we will be getting new info hopefully soonish

autumn crag Nov 28, 2023, 11:41 PM

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after confirming, I'll put it all together in a single message

tame mortar Nov 28, 2023, 11:41 PM

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and will stop using wiki

autumn crag Nov 28, 2023, 11:43 PM

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beams definitely have to be in front for sector 30, the minimal added reach is necessary

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the boss crushed me, the beams weren't quite fast enough, got to about 40% of its hp

tame mortar Nov 28, 2023, 11:45 PM

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level red building in any base its used. lvl booster if can,,,

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lvl parts in base its used

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etc

autumn crag Nov 28, 2023, 11:45 PM

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yeah, I think I am a bit lagged behind in base 4 2x boosters levels

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I'll try that

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thanks for the tips!

tame mortar Nov 28, 2023, 11:51 PM

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np hope you win

hardy lotus Nov 29, 2023, 3:57 AM

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for challenge 4, what equipment should i be running?

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er

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what weps/turrets

fluid sage Nov 29, 2023, 6:26 AM

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wild, just used Jadian's setup #1087076577134792834 message and managed to finish sh challenge 5 even after failing to fix my weapons/shields setup (2x bulk shields, deflector, disruptor, 2 beams, 3 lasers)

thick trench Nov 29, 2023, 12:00 PM

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still cant do

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base carry 5

limpid pecan Nov 29, 2023, 12:01 PM

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limpid pecan

try this setup

thick trench Nov 29, 2023, 12:03 PM

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still not..

tame mortar Nov 29, 2023, 12:03 PM

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check you building lvls vrs what the set up calls for...

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building lvls mater

thick trench Nov 29, 2023, 12:06 PM

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ok, i ll try to level them up thanks guys

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you have any link for best build 64sector and up?

tame mortar Nov 29, 2023, 12:08 PM

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thick trench you have any link for best build 64sector and up?

https://discord.com/channels/1023372620705566740/1109639190922145892

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no best theres several options now

thick trench Nov 29, 2023, 12:08 PM

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kk

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thx

manic summit Nov 30, 2023, 5:20 PM

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limpid pecan

I have the same levels just a tid bit higher but am not able to get past sector 29, what am I missing lol? All gattling guns and Continous generator

tame mortar Nov 30, 2023, 5:21 PM

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2 beam/ rest gatling

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continous correct

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highest version you have avaible

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so v3 or v4 if you can,,,

manic summit Nov 30, 2023, 5:22 PM

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okay, swapped to beam v4

limpid pecan Nov 30, 2023, 5:22 PM

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I think in challenges you lose range bonuses from research, which makes a lot more enemies stop outside of the range of gatlings

manic summit Nov 30, 2023, 5:25 PM

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Okay,
weird I`m not getting close to those numbers 😂
" this setup gets me to 2.44e25 attack / 1.34e25 shields"
I have e23 shield and e24 attack

limpid pecan Nov 30, 2023, 5:26 PM

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manic summit Okay, weird I`m not getting close to those numbers 😂 " this setup gets me to 2...

do you have a booster penalty displayed?

manic summit Nov 30, 2023, 5:26 PM

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Yes

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Ahh

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changed one booster to b penalty reduction, now it looks better. Lets see how far i get now

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hmm still not making it, guess I have to get even higher upgrades then

willow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 5:30 AM

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how do i beat the challenge to clear sector 6 xD

tame mortar Dec 1, 2023, 5:32 AM

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willow skiff how do i beat the challenge to clear sector 6 xD

https://usi.fandom.com/wiki/Base_Carry

USI Wiki

Base Carry

In 'Base Carry', you must use your modules to provide the ship with its damage and max shield. Building materials represent maximum shields, and components represent attack damage. There are five...

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1 beam, rest gatling... continous shields

willow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 5:34 AM

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thank you!

desert oasis Dec 1, 2023, 10:37 AM

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wanted to mention stats I beat the base carry 2 with since it's lower than I heard mentioned overall:
weapons: 3x gatling v2(slot 1/2/3) + beam v2(slot 4)
shields: continuous v2
base 1 - full red(89), right before I planned the challenge run I heavily focused the red so I can just set and forget it
base 2 - wiki setup/amount of slots(3 multi + 2 weapons + 8 shields)
the usual swap of shield into weapon per 1 enemy hit or however much feels required
levels were 36 shields/31 weapons/33 multi
I had a little leeway(could probably take down ~10-15% more from boss), can probably lose a few levels somewhere

leaden cave Dec 2, 2023, 8:43 AM

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tame mortar so v3 or v4 if you can,,,

v of the weapons is irrelevant in base chal

fading nest Dec 2, 2023, 8:49 AM

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range

tame mortar Dec 2, 2023, 9:39 AM

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leaden cave v of the weapons is irrelevant in base chal

abilitys are ilreavant... v1 has different range than v2 v3 or v4

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use highest version DUE TO RANGE... is that better for you?

indigo heart Dec 2, 2023, 11:47 PM

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Cleared base Carry 3 with
base 1 144 G
base 2 97 G 94 Y 102 R 19 B
Base 3 33 G 20 Y 1 P

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i couldnt find on the wiki the lvls

narrow gazelle Dec 3, 2023, 4:15 AM

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what I used for base carry 3
#1087076577134792834 message

indigo heart Dec 3, 2023, 4:15 AM

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honestly could not find it with the search button

narrow gazelle Dec 3, 2023, 4:16 AM

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yeah, discord search function is suboptimal

indigo heart Dec 3, 2023, 4:18 AM

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Wow i was way stronger then you when i did it no wonder it was so easy

narrow gazelle Dec 3, 2023, 4:27 AM

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I just attempted it as soon as I had 7 slots unlocked in base 3 without needing to care about upgrading buildings in base 3, since I only used B Penalty Reduction at level 1. I tried it before when I had 5 slots unlocked and it didn't seem like I was too far off

indigo heart Dec 3, 2023, 4:45 AM

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i guess i waited quite a bit then and could of done it alot sooner

frozen bloom Dec 3, 2023, 5:11 AM

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i dont see a ship setup for base carry 3

frozen bloom Dec 3, 2023, 5:28 AM

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was able to do it

desert oasis Dec 3, 2023, 9:24 AM

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edited the wiki setups for 2/3 with the less stat setups

nocturne oyster Dec 3, 2023, 4:24 PM

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What’s the build of Base carry5

obtuse moss Dec 3, 2023, 4:36 PM

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stupid question, but does the base prod crystal or crew affect stats during the challenge

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?

hidden merlin Dec 3, 2023, 4:39 PM

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that's actually a good question! I never thought of testing this. The challenge description doesn't explicitly state that base production bonuses are disabled, so I'm guessing they work during this challenge

obtuse moss Dec 3, 2023, 4:40 PM

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crystal visibly doesn't from my attempt here, but I don't want to waste a sleeve for the crew :/

hidden merlin Dec 3, 2023, 4:41 PM

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well, if base shard doesn't work, then crew bonuses won't work either, I think

obtuse moss Dec 3, 2023, 4:43 PM

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likely since it's a multiplier to the same stat, apparently fixed to 1

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was worth a shot ^^

hidden merlin Dec 5, 2023, 11:03 PM

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Target sectors for each completion of the Base Carry challenge, for future reference:

1: sector 3
2: sector 6
3: sector 12
4: sector 20
5: sector 30

hidden merlin Dec 5, 2023, 11:19 PM

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hidden merlin Target sectors for each completion of the Base Carry challenge, for future refer...

desert oasis Dec 6, 2023, 7:30 AM

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edited base 4 in wiki, doable the moment you unlock base 4

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essentially using the idea from the optimal base carry 5 strat with pure boosting and quad boost penalty remove

fading nest Dec 6, 2023, 7:37 AM

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thing is, base 1-3 levels

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when they're too low, even with best setup you'll fail

desert oasis Dec 6, 2023, 7:38 AM

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yeah, the previous strategy on wiki was ultra unoptimal and wanted you to unlock extra slot in base 4

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which is pointless since the optimal setup overkills the challenge 4 the moment you unlock base 4 almost regardless of levels

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unless you intentionally avoid leveling base 1-3 I guess

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with that I edited the base 2-4 strategies to be far more optimal so far

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for base 5 my feeling is that jadian's strategy in pins is by far optimal but I will try to see if I will be able to pull it off with less slots/levels

real pawn Dec 7, 2023, 2:02 AM

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gonna try base carry 1 soon, do i go with 2x gatling v2 + 2x beam v2?

hidden merlin Dec 7, 2023, 2:03 AM

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sounds good to me

real pawn Dec 7, 2023, 2:03 AM

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does it matter which weaps are in the front in this case?

hidden merlin Dec 7, 2023, 2:05 AM

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I'm not sure. It might not matter much here, so I guess 2 beams in front and 2 gatlings behind is fine

real pawn Dec 7, 2023, 2:08 AM

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o nvm it was overkill, the boss just went poof

tame mortar Dec 7, 2023, 2:10 AM

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real pawn gonna try base carry 1 soon, do i go with 2x gatling v2 + 2x beam v2?

base cary will 2beam rest gatling when you do future ones..

real pawn Dec 7, 2023, 2:14 AM

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is the diff between what i mentioned and yours the order of the turrets?

hidden merlin Dec 7, 2023, 2:19 AM

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yes

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generally, when we suggest weapon setups, the first weapon mentioned goes in first slot, second one goes in second slot, etc.

real pawn Dec 7, 2023, 2:21 AM

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wokay, was just following the order of what was mentioned in the wiki

tame mortar Dec 7, 2023, 2:21 AM

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yep

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it works... but not optimaly

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theres alot of factors to each players experience. at one point wiki or assorted usi advice says to use missile on BC... its sub optimal and requires more stats from base because of range... so i was trying to prep you for the harder BC coming up

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2beam rest gat and continous will require the least amout on stats and covers the range issue letting you sail through

real pawn Dec 7, 2023, 2:25 AM

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noted

tame mortar Dec 7, 2023, 2:27 AM

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Although ive seen more people adding to wiki agin... it might improve greatly.. so no harm trying things out as long as youre having fun

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 11:07 AM

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beam is weaker in base carry, the only reason for it is disabling the shield regen entirely

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one is enough on last slot

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due to range being much higher it will be shooting first anyway

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the faster the gatlings start shooting the better

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the difference is kinda small as long as you use at least 1 beam and any combination of beams/gatlings so will only matter if your base stats are pointblank

tame mortar Dec 7, 2023, 11:11 AM

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false but you do you...

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 11:12 AM

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I tested it, it's not false, please don't spread misinformation

tame mortar Dec 7, 2023, 11:12 AM

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ive been helping people complete these challenges longer than you been in server

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 11:13 AM

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I literally tested the times with exact same stats

tame mortar Dec 7, 2023, 11:13 AM

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beam is primary dps... gatling is support..

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 11:13 AM

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it doesn't matter if you have been here for infinity or not

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it's simple brute force testing

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with equal stats I had ~0.3s faster kill with 3 gatlings/1 beam compared to 2 beam 2 gatling on an ~9s fight in base carry

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the difference is very minor but it's there, might have something to do with beam reducing FPS more but that's hard to say

tame mortar Dec 7, 2023, 11:17 AM

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you want numbers proof your wrong?

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or does it even mater?

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 11:17 AM

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I would rather have video with 2 equal stat setups doing same boss with 2 setups rather than numbers

tame mortar Dec 7, 2023, 11:18 AM

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im not recording video im well past all challenges and dont manipulate saves... ill show you number facts from a lvl 1 base weapon config with math if you want

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 11:18 AM

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no need, thanks, math is pointless if practice shows opposite

tame mortar Dec 7, 2023, 11:19 AM

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ok. so you do you ill do me... dont say its missinformation...

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what ever people chose and works for them is fine

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desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 11:24 AM

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most people are using overkill stats the old wiki setups gave, so simply correcting their crappy setup into normal one with much lower stats requirement is easy, yeah

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base setup matters much more

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can literally be a difference between 20-30 base stats

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with simply minor base changes

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got the most optimal(hopefully) setups for base 2-4 so far, the 1 felt perfect

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the 5 feels like jadian's setup, about to reach it to see if it's possible to do it earlier

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albeit it's already in kinda min max place where you need to get x10 mastery multiplier either way at which point it's essentially instant

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for example in base 4 challenge you could literally use disruptors or some other crap as long as it has something to pierce shield with

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and you would still win the moment you unlock base 4 due to overkill with correct base setup
weapons are more of a final layer of min maxing which mostly matter in base challenges 1-3 where you have less setup variety/massive multiplier gates and even there it's not too big a deal

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 1:07 PM

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could anyone share base 4 layout? tried wiki but it's not working, can't even beat sector 19

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 1:09 PM

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base 4 as in challenge 4?

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 1:09 PM

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yes and I meant steam guide not wiki

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desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 1:09 PM

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oh, use wiki

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 1:09 PM

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this is not working at all

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 1:09 PM

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yeah, this is trash

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I just made a enw setup in wiki

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https://usi.fandom.com/wiki/Base_Carry#Base_Carry_4

USI Wiki

Base Carry

In 'Base Carry', you must use your modules to provide the ship with its damage and max shield. Building materials represent maximum shields, and components represent attack damage. There are five...

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 1:09 PM

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wiki has no layout for base challenge 4

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 1:10 PM

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I did write it down

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if you don't want to read - check base 5 challenge which I just edited

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and use base 1-3 setups there

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and have all slots being boosters in base 4

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 1:10 PM

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ok, thanks for the info 🙂

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was a bit odd that every base carry challenge has a picture or layout but 4 😄

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 1:11 PM

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eh, was too lazy to make one

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so wrote it down

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since it's super simple

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 1:22 PM

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eh now I have the dmg but not hp :/

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 1:23 PM

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screenshot your stats

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 1:24 PM

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desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 1:24 PM

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hmmm, can you show base setups so I can check it's correct?

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 1:25 PM

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desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 1:26 PM

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weapons are x5 gatlings and 1 beam, right? Shields are cont? All v3?

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 1:26 PM

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2x beam 4x gatling shields yes

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 1:28 PM

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you swap base 3 into damage when you lose HP, right?

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 1:28 PM

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no, I don't lose hp, I get one shot

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 1:29 PM

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swap into full red then

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and use deflectors

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maybe you are underleveled or something

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in the greens of base 3

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 1:30 PM

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it's 96

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 1:31 PM

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ah, yeah, that's on the low side, you should be able to level much more in no time at all

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via base shard

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I guess under 100 is a bit too low

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 1:32 PM

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I can try but the fact that I can't even beat sector 19 means I need at least like 110 or so 😄

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 1:33 PM

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it's a bit strange your bases are this low, not too sure how you reached base 4 honestly lol

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not to mention having extra slots there

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 1:35 PM

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🤷‍♂️ can give you save file you want

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 1:36 PM

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yeah, gimme

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wanna see

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 1:37 PM

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sent you a dm

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 1:38 PM

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aight, gimme a sec, checking it out

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I see the problem

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let me check one thing

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well, I easily beat 19 but I think 20 might be a bit too much

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basically problem is you are still having booster penalty

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to solve this you need the booster penalty down level 5 on base 3

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once you get this you will complete the thing

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will add it to the wiki too

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simply adding more booster removals in base 4 already stomps 19

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 1:44 PM

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ok, ty for info 🙂

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 1:47 PM

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ah, I see now, you have managed to reach base 4 while mostly ignoring the crew

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crew is core mechanic

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so try to figure it out

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your goal is to get some initial levels and then reach the mastery 1 on tech engineer

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you can still easily get to level ~100-105 base 3 via base shard in less than half a day even without crew

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after you reach 1st mastery the progression skyrockets

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by dedicating ~1-2 days to crew you will be able to reach sector ~60 within the next 2 days

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 2:21 PM

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desert oasis ah, I see now, you have managed to reach base 4 while mostly ignoring the crew

I did not ignore it, I unlocked it only recently 😅

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 2:22 PM

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what I mean is

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you need to ignore all else

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and focus purely on crew

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 2:23 PM

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well I kinda did but you need to push higher sectors for more exp/sec so you can lvl them faster

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 2:23 PM

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you are already overkilling it on base 4, I honestly was not even sure base 4 was possible in reasonable time before the crew blows up

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 2:24 PM

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maybe the game has changed by the time I was entering end game

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like QoL and such and that's why

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 2:24 PM

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I just did it a day ago

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or so

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maybe 2

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OHHHH

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OHHH

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I think I know

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what might the problem be

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did you save up for the rank delay on synth purchase?

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it's an absolute must to rush crew

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that's pretty much worth ignoring absolutely everything else and getting it

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 2:25 PM

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yep I did

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but recent patch added new things

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 2:26 PM

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In that case not too sure, I am also on recent patch

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the core idea is to reach total ranks... IIRC it was 20?

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for the extra biosleeve

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 2:27 PM

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My rank is 64

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desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 2:27 PM

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oh, in that case go rush your 1st mastery

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that's overkill

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you only need rank 20 for 1st mastery

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which might even be overkill too

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 2:28 PM

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you sure? rank 13 is 82/500

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 2:29 PM

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you need to use reprint

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each reprint saves the mastery

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you have what... 4 or 5 initial slots right now?

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biosleeves I mean

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 2:29 PM

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5

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 2:29 PM

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that's 5 + at least 3 for 18 hours

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 2:29 PM

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I just retired them

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when I reached "the exp wall" around 2e8 or so

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 2:30 PM

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honestly right now you can even do it with 7, so 3+6 hours(or even less if you already reduced time)

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500/7 = 71

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.something

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so you only need to reach level 71-72 7 times

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with the 1st guy

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after that you choose biosleeve +3 as your mastery

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and it goes into crazy progression speed from there

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after the biosleeve mastery you start taking the exp ones for the next crew member so the progression keeps being ultra fast until you are almost done with the crew

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I think what you missed is the fact that each biosleeve keeps the mastery

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 2:37 PM

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yep I now realized that 😄 it's fine tho I never hit any walls so far just slowly progressing

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 2:37 PM

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the thing is

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as you can see - there is 0 progression

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your next unlock is sector 70+

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so your goal is to realize how crew works ASAP

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as it skyrockets you through sectors and is the only thing that matters

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 2:40 PM

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yea re-printing helped a lot, didn't realize that exists, I might hit 2 mastery points in under an hour

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 2:40 PM

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yep, once you are done with mastery 1 on everyone aside of last 2 guys(almost instant for you by now)

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you will reach rank 300 in all 4 for massive progression boost

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 2:41 PM

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you go for starting biosleeve then max crew mastery?

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 2:42 PM

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starting biosleeve > exp x30(choose the next easiest crew member exp requirement) > base/warp hard to say which is more important in the order, I think warp is a bit better but it hardly matters since it will happen at almost same time anyway > crew member slot

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once you get crew going - the key to your progression will be combining crew member effects for specific actions.
There are usually 2 crew members for one thing, one is in the 'alternate' path of the skill tree usually.

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you usually start by getting some massive compute then swap into salvage setup and spend a few minutes there then swap into synth if you can progress it... and occasionally updating the research once you get enough bonuses for it to matter

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 2:47 PM

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desert oasis you usually start by getting some massive compute then swap into salvage setup a...

ye my compute phase sometimes lasted for 3-5 days cuz I forgot about it

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 2:48 PM

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lol, I see, yeah, I did have loads of achieves pop when loading your save file like the kill ones which I am massively behind on

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I am still on day 12 myself

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12 days 2 hours

shadow timber Dec 7, 2023, 2:48 PM

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my total time is like 80 days?

desert oasis Dec 7, 2023, 2:48 PM

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yeah, I was a bit too active XD

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enjoying how game always has the smart option to get through any walls you face.. at least so far until sector 63 where I am currently at, not sure how it goes further

tame mortar Dec 9, 2023, 4:35 AM

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@azure urchin
https://usi.fandom.com/wiki/Base_Carry

USI Wiki

Base Carry

In 'Base Carry', you must use your modules to provide the ship with its damage and max shield. Building materials represent maximum shields, and components represent attack damage. There are five...

azure urchin Dec 9, 2023, 4:36 AM

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thats the guy i'm using. may just have to try it again after some more levels

tame mortar Dec 9, 2023, 4:37 AM

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which BC?

azure urchin Dec 9, 2023, 4:38 AM

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i figured it out, i'm a dummy

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base 4 told me to use 6 2x boosters but i had already got 2 more slots so i put 8

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nerfed me hard

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you rock

broken canopy Dec 12, 2023, 1:43 PM

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Base Carry 4 Challenge Base and Loadout

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the guide on the wiki did NOT work at ALL, just reposting basically what I found scouring this channel

indigo heart Dec 12, 2023, 7:36 PM

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broken canopy Base Carry 4 Challenge Base and Loadout

Please post the lvl of each component to be more clear

tame mortar Dec 12, 2023, 9:26 PM

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indigo heart Please post the lvl of each component to be more clear

might be abit to late

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as soon as they completed challenge bases would have started lvling up 😦

indigo heart Dec 12, 2023, 10:16 PM

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I thought so

ionic gull Dec 12, 2023, 10:53 PM

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i need help,pos reinforce....base 2 all open ,the guide for base dont work

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dont work

tame mortar Dec 12, 2023, 11:00 PM

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@desert oasis more troubles in paradise

desert oasis Dec 12, 2023, 11:01 PM

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that's not wiki setup, yeah

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use more green if you overkilled stats so much I guess

ionic gull Dec 12, 2023, 11:02 PM

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the wiki setup doesn't work, I have all the slots and some are already occupied and I can't remove them

desert oasis Dec 12, 2023, 11:03 PM

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remove the bottom yellow with x5 more green and you should be fully immortal to begin with

ionic gull Dec 12, 2023, 11:03 PM

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It didn't work, I already tried, I'll try with base 3 released...

desert oasis Dec 12, 2023, 11:04 PM

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can you give me save file? really want to see

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are you sure you are in base challenge 2?

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not 3?

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because you can literally do that with 5 slots less than you have

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something definitely feels wrong as you ought to be immortal by now

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regardless of setup

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also what are the levels of red in base 1?

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maybe you were ignoring those

ionic gull Dec 12, 2023, 11:06 PM

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I sent you the file ^^

desert oasis Dec 12, 2023, 11:07 PM

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aight, lemme check it out

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yeah, you are already done with base carry 2

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2/5

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the next challenge is bare carry 3

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which needs 3rd base

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@ionic gull

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https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/usi/images/6/64/BaseCarry3.png/revision/latest?cb=20231203091121 this build basically

ionic gull Dec 12, 2023, 11:12 PM

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its auto completed?

desert oasis Dec 12, 2023, 11:12 PM

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you might have failed to notice how you completed base 2, yeah XD

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with how much you overkilled it

ionic gull Dec 12, 2023, 11:12 PM

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ohhhh

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tks and sorry

desert oasis Dec 12, 2023, 11:12 PM

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you are welcome 🙂 you are pretty close to base 3 requirement already

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but you need base 3

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after that it's almost instant

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you should probably try at least the core compounding challenge too, noticed you have 1/9, you can certainly do more 🙂
It's probably the least important challenge but it should be easy to rush a few more by now

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zfV0R-Kiqqp8YUhaGH95IhW0cgH360bQu1OdZ0nv-g0/edit#heading=h.fpkcstrdtohz
use this guide for approximations of when to do other challenges

Google Docs

USI Assorted Advice

broken canopy Dec 13, 2023, 7:58 AM

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indigo heart Please post the lvl of each component to be more clear

I was around the minimum requirement stated on the wiki , so 105-110 on base 3 with lvl 5 on the reduction thing

languid blaze Dec 14, 2023, 10:58 PM

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what do these number mean?

hidden merlin Dec 14, 2023, 10:59 PM

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they refer to the levels of the buildings, from left to right, and top to bottom

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so for base 1, that's mats, components, and booster in this order. And for base 2, that's mats, parts, components, and booster in this order

languid blaze Dec 14, 2023, 11:00 PM

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oh ok thanks

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im doing base 3 challenge, i am like 5 levels under from each on base 1 but on base 2 i am like 20 levels ahead

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should be good right?

hidden merlin Dec 14, 2023, 11:05 PM

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I think that's alright

indigo heart Dec 14, 2023, 11:25 PM

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languid blaze im doing base 3 challenge, i am like 5 levels under from each on base 1 but on ...

#1087076577134792834 message

tame mortar Dec 14, 2023, 11:27 PM

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indigo heart https://discord.com/channels/1023372620705566740/1087076577134792834/11806565758...

seing as BC3 is ment to be done with base 3... im not sure you being in ship/bases much higher than 39 is very indicative of proper stats or set up 😛

indigo heart Dec 15, 2023, 3:08 AM

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yeah i was probably a little over

strange echo Dec 16, 2023, 3:54 PM

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how far into base 2 are you recommended to be before attempting challenge #2?

tame mortar Dec 16, 2023, 6:07 PM

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wiki

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https://usi.fandom.com/wiki/Base_Carry

USI Wiki

Base Carry

In 'Base Carry', Base Building materials represent maximum shields, and components represent attack damage. There are five levels of challenges, each dividing all upgrade costs by 50. In the...

tame mortar Dec 16, 2023, 6:08 PM

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tame mortar https://usi.fandom.com/wiki/Base_Carry

bold plaza Dec 18, 2023, 11:11 PM

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the wiki says BC4 as soon as you unlock base 4, but also says they had 300 points in every crew rank and higher levels in base 3, kinda confusing on that one I'll need to lvl some more

tame mortar Dec 18, 2023, 11:23 PM

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bold plaza the wiki says BC4 as soon as you unlock base 4, but also says they had 300 point...

base 4 is unlocked ||54||
crew is unlocked ||51|| they over lvled before getting to base...

bold plaza Dec 18, 2023, 11:24 PM

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not for me

tame mortar Dec 18, 2023, 11:24 PM

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whats not for you?

bold plaza Dec 18, 2023, 11:24 PM

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I've reached sector 55 and my crew ranks are all under 200

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base 3 only lvl 98 mats

tame mortar Dec 18, 2023, 11:24 PM

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thats what i mean... they (the example on wiki)

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they was overleveld before getting to base 4

bold plaza Dec 18, 2023, 11:25 PM

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oh k

tame mortar Dec 18, 2023, 11:25 PM

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you dont need crew that high for BC 4 but it does help..

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the base building lvls are what mater most

bold plaza Dec 18, 2023, 11:26 PM

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yea mine are a bit low and no booster 5

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reducer*

brave mountain Dec 18, 2023, 11:32 PM

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what setup of crew for base carry 5? dont get explanation from wiki? do i need specific attributes and auto switch off

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"The approximation of when you can reach this is getting mastery for base x10 and using the crew setup of energy technician(for engineer levels) and logistics + industrial for the base non component output."

tame mortar Dec 18, 2023, 11:52 PM

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again.. you dont need crew to do BC5

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crew has no bearing "IN CHALLENGE" crew is used to prepare for the challenge by leveling up you buildings

brave mountain Dec 18, 2023, 11:53 PM

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ok ty

desert oasis Dec 19, 2023, 12:03 AM

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tame mortar thats what i mean... they (the example on wiki)

not overleveled, doing optimally to be exact

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main problem is most people don't figure out how crew works and how you should ignore everything else until you got first 5 mastery points into getting all savants

tame mortar Dec 19, 2023, 12:04 AM

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that has nothing to do with the challenges and should "be" considered when writing a guide to the challenge

desert oasis Dec 19, 2023, 12:04 AM

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that has everything to do with the challenge

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challenges give exact levels

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so if you are doing something wrong - you will quickly figure this out thanks to challenge info I give

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so not only you get challenge completion info but it also tells you if you are failing really badly and ignoring the key mechanic of 50-74

tame mortar Dec 19, 2023, 12:09 AM

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i did bc4 without crew 300 and didn need a guide on how to manage crew... crew has no effect in challenge and all youve done is confuse people as evidence above

desert oasis Dec 19, 2023, 12:10 AM

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it's required to save time optimally, you CAN do anything unoptimally by idling for ages over what you need to

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I only consider optimal strategies

bold plaza Dec 20, 2023, 6:32 AM

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the first sentence on the wiki says "Doable the moment you unlock base 4", also the game was flashing green on the challenge so i had to either go with the first sentence and the game or follow the rest of the guide that itself even says it was overleveled, i know crew levels have no direct influence and is only a relative comparison to progress, but progress can't be accurately judged when the wiki guide says it was an insta-kill at those levels

indigo heart Dec 20, 2023, 6:34 AM

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for base carry 4 using wiki setup; base 3 levels were 112/112/121/22/5, base 4 I got the booster to level 2, used 1 beam and 5 gats, went very smoothly and quick (edited)

bold plaza Dec 20, 2023, 6:36 AM

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yea i probably can do it now without changing anything, 122 on base 3 just been focusing on crews, not a big deal

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im almost have base mastery which isnt necessary at all

indigo heart Dec 20, 2023, 6:36 AM

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if your not currently on a mastery run i would do it

bold plaza Dec 20, 2023, 6:37 AM

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😛

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probably will go warp mastery first though since challenge will be easy now

indigo heart Dec 20, 2023, 6:40 AM

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very nice im working on researcher mastery atm

bold plaza Dec 20, 2023, 6:47 AM

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just beat it without touching base setups at all as suspected

fiery hare Dec 23, 2023, 2:54 AM

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how are people doing base chal 4

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i have 10 spots open in base 4

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and still cant pass it

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cant even get passed secotr 18 with following this guide

indigo heart Dec 23, 2023, 2:57 AM

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what are your current lvls on base 3?

fiery hare Dec 23, 2023, 2:58 AM

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116/112/123/22/5

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im trying another base setup i seen someone talking about further up in the chat

indigo heart Dec 23, 2023, 2:58 AM

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are you using the correct wep?

fiery hare Dec 23, 2023, 2:59 AM

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all gat 1 beam

indigo heart Dec 23, 2023, 2:59 AM

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try this

fiery hare Dec 23, 2023, 2:59 AM

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yeah thats the one im trying now

tame mortar Dec 23, 2023, 3:11 AM

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indigo heart try this

to many boosters

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your gimping your stats

indigo heart Dec 23, 2023, 3:12 AM

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its not my design just the one that was in the discord

tame mortar Dec 23, 2023, 3:12 AM

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i hate the fact that ruler of heaven went and changed the wiki without leaving an archive of old

indigo heart Dec 23, 2023, 3:13 AM

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im about to do base carry 4 my self anyway

tame mortar Dec 23, 2023, 3:13 AM

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one moment let me see if i can find the old setup

indigo heart Dec 23, 2023, 3:13 AM

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ill be able to see what i need when i do the run

tame mortar Dec 23, 2023, 3:14 AM

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fiery hare yeah thats the one im trying now

are you in challenge now?

fiery hare Dec 23, 2023, 3:16 AM

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yeah i got it finished. thankyou

tame mortar Dec 23, 2023, 3:16 AM

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ok

indigo heart Dec 23, 2023, 5:36 AM

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easy claps base carry 4

tame mortar Dec 23, 2023, 5:44 AM

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layout is only a small portion of issue... you need building lvls of each base (only the buildings used...)

ie base 2 didnt have green or red so dont need green or red info there...

indigo heart Dec 23, 2023, 5:44 AM

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def didnt need the 2 green slots on base 4

tame mortar Dec 23, 2023, 5:45 AM

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building lvls is 90% of why people are struggling wiht the challenge

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noone logs info correctly

indigo heart Dec 23, 2023, 5:46 AM

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yeah i just got lvl 2 on the base 4 boster which prob pushed me quite far

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that why i also made sure to take a photo of the lvls of all the stats

tame mortar Dec 23, 2023, 5:47 AM

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theres no lvls in pictures

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you have to hover over each building and write them out

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base 1 green example

indigo heart Dec 23, 2023, 5:48 AM

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i did that for my base 3 but no one seemed to care

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i was also alot over leved for that 1 tho

tame mortar Dec 23, 2023, 5:48 AM

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because people dont under stand the importance...

indigo heart Dec 23, 2023, 5:49 AM

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yeah game said i could do it so i did it

tame mortar Dec 23, 2023, 5:49 AM

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in pins when terriam did

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problem here is information overlad and no signifigant guide to whay these numbers mean...

indigo heart Dec 23, 2023, 5:50 AM

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this was mine

tame mortar Dec 23, 2023, 5:50 AM

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cause he liste all buildings for every base even if it wasnt used... and still no reason why it matters

indigo heart Dec 23, 2023, 5:50 AM

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i was kinda over leveled for it tho so made it a brezze

tame mortar Dec 23, 2023, 5:50 AM

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indigo heart this was mine

thats the documentaion thats needed on wiki and the reasons to why

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fo bc 1 - bc 5 information hasnt been analisyed and cosolidated correctly

indigo heart Dec 23, 2023, 5:52 AM

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would u like me to work out what my build lvls were?

tame mortar Dec 23, 2023, 5:53 AM

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if you want..
ruler of heaven started making changes to wiki...
but did his own thing while erase previous stuff that worked... with little to no explenations added...
im sure you could add a section and a guide in your own style or understanding to help people would be a benifit

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if you add to wiki great.. if you make changes... well (be sure to document what and why) something changed :p

indigo heart Dec 23, 2023, 5:55 AM

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i was kinda over leveled and breezed through it with reactor pushing me the whole way didnt even really see the boss i was alt tabed a the time and must of just smoked it

tame mortar Dec 23, 2023, 5:56 AM

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jadian's BC 5 stats

tame mortar Dec 23, 2023, 5:56 AM

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tame mortar jadian's BC 5 stats

hollow pike Dec 26, 2023, 5:22 AM

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I tried that one with over leveled components for 5 and it didn't work for me. Had the weapons it said to change to as well

tame mortar Dec 26, 2023, 7:51 AM

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hollow pike I tried that one with over leveled components for 5 and it didn't work for me. H...

tried which one...

hollow pike Dec 26, 2023, 8:09 AM

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tame mortar jadian's BC 5 stats

that build, from the wiki

tame mortar Dec 26, 2023, 8:11 AM

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ok, and what do you mean "over leveled components for 5"

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BC5 section on wiki mention components on 3 different bases...

tame mortar Dec 26, 2023, 8:13 AM

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hollow pike I tried that one with over leveled components for 5 and it didn't work for me. H...

components isnt the only building that maters... you need to match or exceed all building lvls...

i recomend you take a look at pins and try 1 of the other 2 setups...

hollow pike Dec 26, 2023, 8:15 AM

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"The moment you unlock the slots you see unlocked in base 4 - you should be really close but you need to ensure you get some extra levels, the important levels are:"
and I was above in all of them

tame mortar Dec 26, 2023, 8:16 AM

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are you in challenge now?

hollow pike Dec 26, 2023, 8:16 AM

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no, thi s was a couple days ago, might try again soon with new setup

tame mortar Dec 26, 2023, 8:16 AM

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sigh

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why ask for help for somthing days old ... cant help you in the past

hollow pike Dec 26, 2023, 8:16 AM

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because I'm not asking for help

tame mortar Dec 26, 2023, 8:17 AM

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while this isnt a direct question this is asking for help as you didnt provide feed back for "what actually works"

tame mortar Dec 26, 2023, 8:19 AM

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hollow pike no, thi s was a couple days ago, might try again soon with new setup

wish you luck in next attempt. if you need help aski while in it and we will be willing to go over things and get you to victory

desert oasis Dec 26, 2023, 5:12 PM

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overleveled is not always better in base challenge since you need to ensure you have no boost penalty, I guess this needs to be a text before all the base guides so people can figure what they are doing wrong
will edit the wiki out to give this a mention

astral otter Dec 26, 2023, 5:37 PM

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cant find any info on this so:
does base prestige affect the base carry damage?

tame mortar Dec 26, 2023, 6:02 PM

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astral otter cant find any info on this so: does base prestige affect the base carry damage?

dont understand your thought process... the challenge changes behavior of bases... damage isnt based on "base" its self but the buildings placed and layout..(the building lvls)

if you used a base prestige consumable to get additional slots... those slots could either help you or become a hinderance if you place incorrect buildings... or if slot is left empty does nothing

astral otter Dec 26, 2023, 6:16 PM

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gotcha

fickle breach Dec 27, 2023, 12:40 AM

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this is not working i guess

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nvm it worked perfectly

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is the spacemes boost working with challenges?

mental cosmos Dec 27, 2023, 1:26 AM

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fickle breach this is not working i guess

what worked for you? Im stuck at lvl 20 boss.

fickle breach Dec 27, 2023, 1:26 AM

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the wiki build

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first i builded it wrong but later i changed something

mental cosmos Dec 27, 2023, 1:28 AM

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I see. my lvls in b1 are 215, b2 are 168, b3 are 114

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using 1 beam and 5 gattling + continous gens

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do not have enough dmg yet

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fickle breach Dec 27, 2023, 1:30 AM

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show base build

mental cosmos Dec 27, 2023, 1:31 AM

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okay. i did one small change and it worked

fickle breach Dec 27, 2023, 1:32 AM

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nice

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i did it without 2e7 mat stuff XD

mental cosmos Dec 27, 2023, 1:36 AM

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yep. I had it unlocked and was using 8 boosters when it failed. the extra 2x boosters was causing the boost penalty to kick in.

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switched it to parts, and the penalty disappeared.

desert oasis Dec 28, 2023, 11:04 AM

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the boost penalty is huge, yeah, having either none or nearly none is a must

cerulean musk Dec 29, 2023, 5:37 PM

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Having tons of trouble with base carry 5

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i follow the wiki, and i cant do it. I follow the pin comments and can't do it

indigo heart Dec 30, 2023, 12:13 AM

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cerulean musk Having tons of trouble with base carry 5

are you still in the mission?

cerulean musk Dec 30, 2023, 12:49 AM

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i made it!!! :D

craggy lotus Jan 1, 2024, 11:05 AM

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Somehow completed BC1 with zero understanding of the challenge
What does the booster do?
just giving nerf?

feral kraken Jan 1, 2024, 12:48 PM

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craggy lotus Somehow completed BC1 with zero understanding of the challenge What does the boo...

boosters boost nearby buildings, but also divide damage/shield based on a formula

lapis silo Jan 1, 2024, 2:11 PM

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Does the Christmas boost affect this challenge?

feral kraken Jan 1, 2024, 2:15 PM

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base production does not affect stat of buildings

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only the upgrade levels matter

lime wharf Jan 1, 2024, 5:41 PM

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whats optimal for base 5?

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i copied base 1-3 setup have full base 4 unlocked.. what should base 4 look like?

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just smashed it

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wheat ermine Jan 3, 2024, 10:21 PM

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do I need full slots of base 4 for challenge 5??

hidden merlin Jan 3, 2024, 10:23 PM

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I think so, yes

wheat ermine Jan 3, 2024, 10:23 PM

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okk thank you 😄

lapis silo Jan 5, 2024, 7:26 PM

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No, the middle two can be left out

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@wheat ermine

wheat ermine Jan 5, 2024, 7:29 PM

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lapis silo No, the middle two can be left out

yes, i saw the jadian's setup, i need some upgrades to be ready, thanks so much for the help always 😄

main wadi Jan 8, 2024, 6:50 PM

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does the wiki setup just not work?

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for challenge 5

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i have the levels it says and followed the strat but i'm barely scratching the boss

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disregard i'm very stupid... i had synth 5 stuck in my head so i went to 30B instead of A duh...

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switched and it was ez as exapected

twilit venture Jan 11, 2024, 11:35 PM

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wiki W

unkempt wyvern Jan 12, 2024, 3:17 PM

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any setup hint for base carry 2 ?

feral kraken Jan 12, 2024, 3:22 PM

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dont use boosters until you get base 3

unkempt wyvern Jan 12, 2024, 3:24 PM

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why

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oh thats why

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this is the highest i can get with full gatling, i die at ~20-30% boss hp

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uff i got it

keen badger Jan 12, 2024, 3:37 PM

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you can switch your shield to damage when you lower on hp

unkempt wyvern Jan 12, 2024, 3:38 PM

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keen badger Jan 12, 2024, 3:38 PM

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That helps the last bit of boss hp

unkempt wyvern Jan 12, 2024, 3:38 PM

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ah nice trick

fiery hare Jan 17, 2024, 11:15 AM

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guide to last base challange?

keen badger Jan 17, 2024, 11:41 AM

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~~From what I heard the wiki is pretty ok~~

keen badger Jan 17, 2024, 12:01 PM

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Hmm looks like the wiki info is outdated

feral kraken Jan 17, 2024, 12:02 PM

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it works for me

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the level requirements and setups

frosty willow Jan 20, 2024, 9:12 AM

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BC4 failed... didn't read this sentence so it should be doable with as low as 105-110 there.

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having only ~95 on base 3 lol

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can't even beat boss 19

alpine kayak Jan 22, 2024, 3:05 AM

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I'm roughly in the situation, just unlocked base 4 and I'm around ~95 (95/95/101/18/4), not to mention the wiki page emphasizes drain reduce 5 while mine is 4. I came here to seek guidance on lower requirements, that clears it up thanks

alpine kayak Jan 22, 2024, 6:26 PM

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just cleared base carry 4 with what seems to be lower stats (at least on base 3):
some screenshots are after I cleared so I took an extra save and wrote down my stats at the start of challenge, in case auto buy changed some numbers

base 1: 202/201/36
base 2: 146/145/159/29 (only X/145/X/29 were relevant since I didn't use others)
base 3: 99/97/104/19/5 (only X/X/104/19/5 were relevant since I didn't use others)
base 4: 6/4/1/1/1 (levels irrelevant, I only used level 1 booster and drain reduce blocks)
on base 4, using 6 boosters and 2 drain reduce didn't seem to be enough to completely get rid of penalty so I added another drain reduce, resulting in the pictured setup

build: 2x beam laser, 4x gatling, 3x continuous

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@frosty willow this might help ^

ripe folio Jan 23, 2024, 12:02 PM

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Can you send the values for your setup and the wiki setup?

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I do not think that your setup is better. 2 5s + 2 4s + 2 2s should outperform 4 3s + 1 2s

feral kraken Jan 23, 2024, 12:11 PM

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hover on placed drain reduce

candid crown Feb 5, 2024, 1:02 AM

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PSA: Dont be an idiot like me, when following the wiki it said put 2x boost in base for for all 6 slots for base carry 4. If you're dumb dumb like me and unlocked more than the starting 6 slots, and put two extra 2x boosts, it tanks your penalties and you can't finish the challenge

rocky dune Feb 5, 2024, 7:14 PM

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true, just remedy it with better boosters in B3

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or even drain reducer

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(drain reducer for some reason is affected by boosters in BC)

inland jetty Feb 5, 2024, 9:09 PM

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Can someone help me pinpoint what I'm doing wrong in base 5 carry?

base 1: 352/351/63
base 2: 287/285/313/55
base 3: 234/233/266/47/10
base 4: 92/89/88/6/5

inland jetty Feb 5, 2024, 9:12 PM

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lime wharf

that did it, ty

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the wiki base seems to be trash

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or I did something wrong somewhere

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tho I do have the full base unlocked

main wadi Feb 6, 2024, 5:15 AM

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inland jetty the wiki base seems to be trash

wiki setup works fine, your screenshot doesn't have base 4 setup like the wiki does, you're missing a bunch of penalty reducers. if you have the middle two unlocked, which the wiki doesn't, they can't be boosters they have to be like damage or shields (doesn't really matter)

inland jetty Feb 6, 2024, 12:16 PM

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main wadi wiki setup works fine, your screenshot doesn't have base 4 setup like the wiki d...

I did use the wiki setup and the damage and shield were like 2 OoM lower, so I switched to that base while searching here on discord for alternatives

alpine kayak Feb 6, 2024, 11:53 PM

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I think the issue there was that you only have 1 penalty reduction block, you probably needed some more to completely clear the penalty or to make it small enough

rich goblet Feb 9, 2024, 6:04 AM

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Alright, what in the world are B penalty reductions?

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Booster I assume?

feral kraken Feb 9, 2024, 9:39 AM

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yes

keen tide Feb 12, 2024, 3:35 PM

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so whats the ideal ship load out for Base 4? 2 beam, 4 gatling, 3 deflector?

feral kraken Feb 12, 2024, 8:14 PM

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how do you use 3 deflectors

twilit venture Feb 17, 2024, 2:15 PM

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with a lot of retreats

twilit venture Feb 17, 2024, 2:31 PM

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I cant beat S30 even though im using the retrofit + all red base 3 method

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I get boss to like 10% hp then die

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nvm

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I just had to replace a drain reduce with a booster in B4

snow raft Feb 25, 2024, 11:04 PM

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base 3

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oops

half canyon Feb 26, 2024, 6:35 PM

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Just cleared using this layout except base 3 2nd row middle square is not yet unlocked, otherwise used it exactly like this.

slate kestrel Mar 1, 2024, 12:00 PM

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just sharing this is my best setup if someone lazy to change multiple time for base 3 this is best for you~

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if anyone have better setup mind sharing too :3

snow raft Mar 16, 2024, 11:55 PM

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how much of base 4 do i need unlocked for base carry 4

rocky dune Mar 17, 2024, 2:45 PM

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Either no need or only need 8 slots

peak marten Mar 19, 2024, 8:31 PM

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can i get setups for base carry 5 plz

hidden merlin Mar 19, 2024, 8:33 PM

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peak marten Mar 19, 2024, 8:38 PM

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ty

rancid fjord Mar 23, 2024, 1:36 AM

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huh, that Base Challenge 3 setup in the wiki is terrible, here's mine

feral kraken Mar 23, 2024, 1:38 AM

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why is booster penalty still active

rancid fjord Mar 23, 2024, 1:47 AM

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because I've only got 7 levels of negation

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and 11 levels of boost

feral kraken Mar 23, 2024, 1:48 AM

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🫤

rancid fjord Mar 23, 2024, 1:49 AM

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have you seen the wiki guide? https://usi.fandom.com/wiki/Base_Carry

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I would have kept removing some more, but then I won

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not really, no

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checking now is pointless, because I just jumped like 8 levels on everything

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but I think my base 1 was around 138

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and I think the wiki setup is this one

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so compare his:

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to mine:

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I was sitting there with his build and figuring my overall levels must have been lower, because the second I swapped out shield for damage, the boss was one-shotting me

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I could take about 4 hits basically, not long enough to DPS it down

ocean creek Mar 24, 2024, 4:08 AM

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I'm following the wiki for Base 5 carry, I'm at 1.2e28 dam and my levels are well above what's listed on every base, using 6 kinetic cannons, and i'm not even damaging the level 30 boss.

ocean creek Mar 24, 2024, 4:25 AM

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oh, i was doiing the elite version of section 30

indigo heart Mar 26, 2024, 6:17 AM

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that will do it

light dragon Mar 28, 2024, 1:11 PM

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How many slots should i have unlocked in base2 to try the 2nd challenge and what minimum upgrade levels are needed?

worn kraken Mar 28, 2024, 3:18 PM

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Scroll up and read the wiki guide. ^

earnest oasis Mar 29, 2024, 2:58 PM

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Am I doing this right for Base Carry 4?

hidden merlin Mar 29, 2024, 9:40 PM

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...nooooooope.

Not enough Boosters in base 3. Put boosters where the mats are, and put 3 mats in the top row.
In base 2, maximize the battle multiplier via boosters and parts.
In base 1, maximize damage and shields via boosters, mats, and components.

At least, that's how I'd do it. I can't guarantee it'll work though. Might need a few drain reducers in base 4.

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also, you can check the wiki guide: https://usi.fandom.com/wiki/Base_Carry

USI Wiki

Base Carry

In 'Base Carry', Base Building materials represent maximum shields, and components represent attack damage. There are five levels of challenges, each dividing all upgrade costs by 50. NOTHING...

short roost Apr 1, 2024, 11:29 PM

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why no images on base carry 4 and 5 ;P

rancid fjord Apr 2, 2024, 12:11 PM

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massive overshoot stats for Base Carry 5:

Stat - HP /MUL/ATK/BST/DRN
Base 1 - 390 / --- / 390 / 69 /---
Base 2 - 302 / 301 / 329 / 58 /---
Base 3 - 290 / 290 / 307 / 55 / 13
Base 4 - 104 / 106 / 110 / 7 / 6

rotund geode Apr 3, 2024, 6:28 PM

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For Base Carry 3/5, is this enough of the 3rd base unlocked to do it, or should I wait for more slots?

rancid fjord Apr 4, 2024, 12:50 AM

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rotund geode For Base Carry 3/5, is this enough of the 3rd base unlocked to do it, or should ...

you have enough

short roost Apr 4, 2024, 6:39 AM

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anyone can dump a layout for base carry 4 if its possible with b4 just unlocked

rancid fjord Apr 4, 2024, 12:10 PM

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short roost anyone can dump a layout for base carry 4 if its possible with b4 just unlocked

just put the super boosters in every slot, and add enough drains to base 3 to cancel it out, if you can't fit enough boosted drains in base 3, then replace one of the corners with some Shield

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the super boosters boost each other

red heart Apr 4, 2024, 2:04 PM

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hmm, I followed the wiki layout for base carry 4 but I'm getting wrecked, what is the correct weapon loadout?

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welp, I guess my boosters are too low levels

runic basalt Apr 4, 2024, 3:34 PM

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Hi, it seems i lack a lot of dmg for base carry 5 even tho my stats should be fine. Is there anything i can do to beat boss 30? I read 6 kinetic is the way with full red on base 3 but i still lack a good chunk. Maybe someone can help me. Thanks

short roost Apr 4, 2024, 6:06 PM

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red heart hmm, I followed the wiki layout for base carry 4 but I'm getting wrecked, what i...

same lol and my levels seems to be in range as well

orchid smelt Apr 8, 2024, 9:10 PM

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Hi, I have building mats 53 b components 52 booster 10, should I be able to do the first stage of the challenge?

feral kraken Apr 8, 2024, 9:11 PM

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just backup save and try it

orchid smelt Apr 8, 2024, 9:13 PM

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I tried the setup from the wiki, and it didn't work, hence why I'm asking

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I also had much bigger levels than suggestes in the fandom wiki page, still not enough :/

round mountain Apr 9, 2024, 1:00 AM

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Nothing should have been changed that would effect that

orchid smelt Apr 9, 2024, 10:45 AM

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I setted everything as shown in the guide

orchid smelt Apr 9, 2024, 10:45 AM

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round mountain Nothing should have been changed that would effect that

Sadly, boss on sector 4 still kills me

halcyon pivot Apr 9, 2024, 4:46 PM

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orchid smelt Sadly, boss on sector 4 still kills me

base carry 1 ends on beating sector 3 boss, looks like you continued into base carry 2

orchid smelt Apr 9, 2024, 4:48 PM

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Oh right, my bad! I completely missed that part

round mountain Apr 9, 2024, 5:30 PM

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haha that would explain the troubles!

wicked fractal Apr 18, 2024, 4:14 PM

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Should I use v2 or v3 weapons for base carry 3/5?

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or the level doesn't really matter?

pastel gate Apr 18, 2024, 7:03 PM

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You use v2 weapons because they have a 10% range increase over V1 weapons outside of this there's no difference between weapon and shield tier in any of the challenges outside of compute. Though you still use v2 in that because you can get powerful enough with them cheaper than you can with v3s.

feral kraken Apr 19, 2024, 12:52 PM

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pastel gate You use v2 weapons because they have a 10% range increase over V1 weapons outsid...

in base carry you cant gain salvage

fast peak Apr 26, 2024, 12:54 AM

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Is there a version of the chart in the OP that Isn't cropped?

rancid fjord Apr 26, 2024, 1:33 AM

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fast peak Is there a version of the chart in the OP that Isn't cropped?

green/blue/yellow/red/lime

fast peak Apr 26, 2024, 1:38 AM

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The bottom and left where it tells you the values are cropped off, so that doesn't tell me anything.

rancid fjord Apr 26, 2024, 1:40 AM

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fast peak The bottom and left where it tells you the values are cropped off, so that doesn...

bottom X-axis is Sector completion, left Y-axis is player count

fast peak Apr 26, 2024, 1:41 AM

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player count?

rancid fjord Apr 26, 2024, 1:41 AM

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it's a graph of what sector players completed it at

fast peak Apr 26, 2024, 1:41 AM

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Oh so you mean sector count, not player count xD

rancid fjord Apr 26, 2024, 1:42 AM

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both are there

fast peak Apr 26, 2024, 1:42 AM

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Yeah it just would help if there was a link to the actual graph anywhere so I wouldn't have ot guess, one not cropped for no reason

rancid fjord Apr 26, 2024, 1:43 AM

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I think it's just an excel graph, and didn't include a key, check the synth one for comparison #1087075522816770118 message

fast peak Apr 26, 2024, 1:45 AM

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Graphs kinda need keys to be comprehensible.

oak palm Apr 27, 2024, 4:47 PM

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this is not working for me in BC4

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trying the wiki layout now

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nice got it

full flint Apr 29, 2024, 3:08 PM

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I am moving Base Carry guide to the new wiki, do we need any adjustments to the builds listed on the Fandom? Anything special to mention etc?

signal marlin Apr 29, 2024, 7:50 PM

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full flint I am moving Base Carry guide to the new wiki, do we need any adjustments to the ...

I think theyre good

rancid fjord Apr 30, 2024, 2:48 AM

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rancid fjord huh, that Base Challenge 3 setup in the wiki is terrible, here's mine

@full flint the wiki setup didn't work for me on base carry 3, because you get penalized for having too many battle multiplier nodes

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for base carry 5, I usually need to break up those 6x blocks because they massively increase the boost multiplier past the ability of my drains to compensate

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the wiki setup just doesn't have the 2 center blocks unlocked, but it's worth mentioning

unkempt leaf May 1, 2024, 10:29 AM

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I don't understand why the pins only talk about base carry 1-5 while I have currently finished 5/9. Also, the sectors don't match what the UI tells me. What am I missing?

feral kraken May 1, 2024, 10:30 AM

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5/9 is compute challenge not base

unkempt leaf May 1, 2024, 10:30 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

Tenor

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´... thank you.... I was missing the part where I need to know how to actually use the UI

full flint May 4, 2024, 1:43 PM

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https://usi.game-vault.net/wiki/Base_Carry_Challenge_Guide_and_Builds Base Carry on the Game Vault Wiki

Base Carry Challenge Guide and Builds

Base Carry Challenge, will disable all damage and shield upgrades, Salvage will not drop and instead player will have to use the Bases, that will provide battle stats.
Base Building materials represent maximum shields, and components represent attack damage. There are five levels of challenges, each dividing all upgrade costs by 50.

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I will add build pics for all base carries and please let me know if there is something we can adjust, since I am on BC5 and I dont remember previous challenges, I just plowed through them without any tactics lol

feral kraken May 4, 2024, 1:49 PM

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game(base carry): challenge should be completable if done properly
actual meaning: challenge should be completable without much thought

full flint May 4, 2024, 1:53 PM

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feral kraken game(base carry): challenge should be completable if done properly actual meanin...

Yeah, thats how I did it. I think most bases were with normal farming setups lol

faint halo May 5, 2024, 12:56 PM

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i must be doing something wrong because my bases are severely underleveled and its taking a really long time to get them up to the recommended for Base 5

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I'm using the shard and crew

feral kraken May 5, 2024, 12:57 PM

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faint halo I'm using the shard and crew

are you using the module(im assuming youre preparing for the challenge and you havent started it yet)

faint halo May 5, 2024, 12:58 PM

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oh, i had the wrong crew active, okay, things are a lot faster now

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yeah preparing for it

formal path May 7, 2024, 7:44 AM

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is base 4 mandatory for BC4?

feral kraken May 7, 2024, 7:44 AM

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probably

lament briar May 11, 2024, 4:21 AM

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Hello, I have reached the minimum for BC4, but I seem to have problem at the sector 19 boss. Am I doing something wrong?

feral kraken May 11, 2024, 4:25 AM

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thats a lot of penalty

lament briar May 11, 2024, 4:29 AM

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Changed a 2x booster in B4 to B penalty reduction and it works fine!

severe nimbus May 13, 2024, 7:18 PM

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Following the wiki for base carry 4 and I can't seem to beat the secrot 20 boss

calm spade May 20, 2024, 11:57 AM

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how tf are you meant to have 146 in base2 before bc4

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its so unbelievably slow 💀

wind merlin May 21, 2024, 4:02 AM

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so for BC2 wiki says:
Close to minimum stats:

Weapons: 3x gatling v2(slot 1/2/3) + beam v2(slot 4)

Shields: continuous

Base 1: full red(89)

Base 2: 36 shields, 33 multi, 31 weapons

Once you have the slots shown with arrows - you should be ready.

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my every companent level is higher and i have more slots unlocked in my base then pic in wiki

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yet i cannot do zone 6

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my challenge's been flashing green for a day

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nvm i stopped using boosters and i didnt take any damage

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why are boosters so trash lol

glad pumice May 21, 2024, 1:29 PM

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Hi just wanted to share my solution for sector 20

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I am at a lower level than the recommended in the wiki

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Using the wiki solution I couldn't pass S19, this one clears S20 at a very tight margin

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On S19 boss I retrofitted to all beam laser

nocturne pewter May 22, 2024, 4:35 PM

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even lower base levels, and no unlocked base 4 slots:
All Beam weapons

hard talon May 25, 2024, 10:18 PM

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it would be nice to know which weapons were used here but i guess it's a bit to old to remember?:D

ripe folio May 25, 2024, 10:20 PM

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Jadian's version is much better

hard talon May 25, 2024, 10:20 PM

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there are no weapons there as well 😄

hard talon May 25, 2024, 10:20 PM

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tame mortar jadian's BC 5 stats

you mean this right?

ripe folio May 25, 2024, 10:21 PM

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yeah

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these stats are around where you should be trying it

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my one is... overleveled

hard talon May 25, 2024, 10:22 PM

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i am already way above. i guess i gotta test weapons

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should be able to do it

hard talon May 25, 2024, 11:23 PM

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took 2 beams 2 gattlings and 1 kinetic cannon. just went past it withought noticing haha. was way to overleveled. thanks

worthy dock May 26, 2024, 4:45 PM

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FFS i should soooooo have bin reading the pinned comments :S :S ARGHHH shoot me

sharp pulsar Jun 5, 2024, 11:32 PM

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share my solution of BC2
Base1: Componet(93), Booster(17)
Base2: Mat(34), Parts(31), Components(29)
change the base 2 mat to component when get hurt by boss
4 beams V2, continuous shield V2

grand patrol Jun 7, 2024, 3:46 PM

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anyone got a good setup for BC4?

wind merlin Jun 8, 2024, 10:46 AM

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check the pin and go to base carry wiki page

wicked fractal Jun 13, 2024, 12:42 PM

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What's an ideal setup for challenge 4?

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nvm

bright fox Jun 15, 2024, 1:41 PM

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ocean creek oh, i was doiing the elite version of section 30

i was so confused then realised im doing this too 😭

serene panther Jun 28, 2024, 4:49 AM

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Hm I'm following the guide on bc5 and i'm stuck on boss 29

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feral kraken Jun 28, 2024, 4:50 AM

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the penalty

serene panther Jun 28, 2024, 4:51 AM

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OHH i know what happened. the guide doesn't have the two middle slots unlocked

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i had boosters in those instead of drain reducers

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can't beat boss 30 after swapping to 6 kinetic and swapping greens to red in base 3

feral kraken Jun 28, 2024, 4:54 AM

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are you in 30B

serene panther Jun 28, 2024, 4:55 AM

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haha thanks i wasn't

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didn't see that in the guide

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wait are you saying to be in 30b or 30a?

feral kraken Jun 28, 2024, 4:56 AM

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A

serene panther Jun 28, 2024, 4:56 AM

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ok im already in A

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new stats:

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6 kinetic v4, 2 deflectors, 1 bulk v4

feral kraken Jun 28, 2024, 5:00 AM

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"penalty"

serene panther Jun 28, 2024, 5:05 AM

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ok changing out even more boosters in base 4 for no penalty did the trick

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thanks for the help! appreciate it!

slow storm Jul 11, 2024, 3:54 AM

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been trying to do base 4 challenge and wiki one had me stuck at sector 17, using #1087076577134792834 message made me get past but now stuck at s18 😦 (i have all of base 3 unlocked)

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wait, im a donut, i need base 4 do do this 😐

analog fern Jul 15, 2024, 2:50 AM

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rancid fjord huh, that Base Challenge 3 setup in the wiki is terrible, here's mine

random old post, but just wanted to say this build worked waaaaay better for me than the wiki build for base carry 3, even with lower level/stat requirements than it recommends on there too

feral kraken Jul 15, 2024, 2:54 AM

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hmm

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k i changed the wiki

granite viper Jul 16, 2024, 1:48 AM

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Levels referenced for the setups on this are upgrades to the buildings which you gain outside the challenge before starting, right? And then you either can or can't complete based on your stats?

signal marlin Jul 18, 2024, 11:31 AM

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granite viper Levels referenced for the setups on this are upgrades to the buildings which you...

Correct

tranquil drift Jul 25, 2024, 4:54 PM

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How many base2 slots do i need to have open to do basw carry 2?

signal marlin Jul 25, 2024, 5:24 PM

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tranquil drift How many base2 slots do i need to have open to do basw carry 2?

https://usi.game-vault.net/wiki/Base_Carry_Challenge_Guide#Base_Carry_2

tranquil drift Jul 25, 2024, 6:13 PM

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Ty

fringe wadi Jul 28, 2024, 11:37 PM

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I followed the guide but I can't clear s19 on BC4, is there an optimized ship setup or smth?

feral kraken Jul 28, 2024, 11:38 PM

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guide for 4 and 5 seem outdated

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maybe not 5 but def 4

fringe wadi Jul 28, 2024, 11:39 PM

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cool

fringe wadi Jul 29, 2024, 12:09 AM

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just did it
ig the only real difference is that I got the two extra slots in base 4 and put the penalty reduction things I'm pretty sure just putting some of these somewhere should do it even with less slots

proper frigate Aug 2, 2024, 7:00 AM

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BC 5 isn't really working for me...

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i'm using the wiki loadout except i have the last two slots unlocked and i don't have nearly enough damage to beast out the boss

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wait, i did notice something was wrong just now

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oh thank fuck

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it went that time thankfully

tame mortar Aug 4, 2024, 9:47 PM

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who ever is working on base carry wiki page your top lvl requirements table is not correct

signal marlin Aug 4, 2024, 9:49 PM

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this one?

tame mortar Aug 4, 2024, 9:50 PM

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correct...

signal marlin Aug 4, 2024, 9:50 PM

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I think thats also by raisins

tame mortar Aug 4, 2024, 9:50 PM

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the challenge isnt solely reliant on components... you need specific lvls in each building type asside from placements to make it ease

signal marlin Aug 4, 2024, 9:50 PM

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Yeah I was wondering why they got left out

tame mortar Aug 4, 2024, 9:51 PM

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and now the wikis changed so all the old recomendations are gone

signal marlin Aug 4, 2024, 9:51 PM

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There's this note at the bottom but that doesnt apply to everything

signal marlin Aug 4, 2024, 9:51 PM

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tame mortar and now the wikis changed so all the old recomendations are gone

Nah they're still under the individual challenge sections

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tame mortar Aug 4, 2024, 9:52 PM

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missing

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missing

signal marlin Aug 4, 2024, 9:52 PM

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? Whats missing?

tame mortar Aug 4, 2024, 9:52 PM

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missing

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base 2 missing parts/mats from base 1

signal marlin Aug 4, 2024, 9:53 PM

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Oh yeah because they weren't in the old guide either

tame mortar Aug 4, 2024, 9:53 PM

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base 3 missing parts from base 1

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base 4 missing parts from base 1 etc etc.

signal marlin Aug 4, 2024, 9:54 PM

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Base 1 doesn't have parts?

tame mortar Aug 4, 2024, 9:54 PM

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meh lol

signal marlin Aug 4, 2024, 9:54 PM

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What should we put there lol N/A?

tame mortar Aug 4, 2024, 9:54 PM

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shush im not thinking about that i was just looking at graph 😛

signal marlin Aug 4, 2024, 9:54 PM

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Fair lmao

tame mortar Aug 4, 2024, 9:55 PM

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yeah n/a might help at glance

signal marlin Aug 4, 2024, 9:55 PM

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I'll do that

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And add some icons

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tame mortar Aug 4, 2024, 10:00 PM

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pretty

unkempt leaf Aug 5, 2024, 12:41 PM

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why does the guide say to use v2 weapons? The challenge doesnt drop salvage so why not use highest tier, like 4 if available?

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ah, ok. because dmg doesn even matter b/c it comes from the bases, right?

feral kraken Aug 5, 2024, 12:48 PM

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and v2 has higher range than v1

hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 12:49 AM

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I have a little over the required stats, but for the life of me I cannot complete Base Carry 2

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 12:50 AM

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hot jungle I have a little over the required stats, but for the life of me I cannot complet...

are you using https://usi.game-vault.net/wiki/Base_Carry_Challenge_Guide

Official Unnamed Space Idle Wiki

Base Carry Challenge Guide

In the Base Carry Challenge, all damage and shield upgrades are disabled and Salvage does not drop. Instead, Bases now provide battle stats depending on the buildings used. Each building grants different stats or affects the other buildings, and boosters incur a penalty.

Materials grant shields
Parts grant a multiplier to damage and shields
Com...

hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 12:55 AM

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tame mortar are you using https://usi.game-vault.net/wiki/Base_Carry_Challenge_Guide

yeah :/ running exactly what it has, plus the two bottom middle stats for base 2. with higher levels in all the base 2 materials.

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Still cant get the boss past the last like 20% hp

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 12:56 AM

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one moment please

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can i see your base page full view of base 1 and base to and the bars that shows stats

hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 12:58 AM

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Sure thing, one sec

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tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 1:00 AM

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and youusing weapon set up said in guide?

hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 1:00 AM

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3 gat2.0 and 1 beamer

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 1:02 AM

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you building lvls are not high enough... also try swaping the 2 additional yellow to red for flat damage and can i see this bar afer change

hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 1:03 AM

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my levels are higher than the wiki, 44,43,43 respectively

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 1:04 AM

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hats for base 2./.. what about base 1 lvls?

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your using red in base 1 so red lvl there matters

hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 1:04 AM

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90 for red

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Im even using red battleshard for 1.16x firerate

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;-;

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 1:05 AM

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fire rate isnt disabled

hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 1:05 AM

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oh lol

signal marlin Aug 10, 2024, 1:05 AM

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Oh wait nvm

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Yeah my bad

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 1:05 AM

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lmao

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wiki lvls are inacturate im sorry ... without some wonky cheese you just below required stats for boss

hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 1:06 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

Tenor

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 1:06 AM

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you need 1e6 damage

signal marlin Aug 10, 2024, 1:06 AM

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tame mortar wiki lvls are inacturate im sorry ... without some wonky cheese you just below r...

Think we should push those up a few? Any suggestions?

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 1:07 AM

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not without running challeng myself... you best gues is to uses his bases lvles all of em and prolly add 5 lvls? and maybe 1 more slot to base 2 than he has

signal marlin Aug 10, 2024, 1:08 AM

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Yeah might be an idea

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 1:08 AM

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hes close but just under

signal marlin Aug 10, 2024, 1:08 AM

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Funnily I didn't have issues with these exact numbers back then

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 1:08 AM

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signal marlin Funnily I didn't have issues with these exact numbers back then

you might have had more achievemts that affected fire rate or range

signal marlin Aug 10, 2024, 1:09 AM

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Could be yeah

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 1:09 AM

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theres so many little variables that are working that its hard to pin point

hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 1:10 AM

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I am absolutely devastated

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 1:10 AM

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hot jungle I am absolutely devastated

was base carry challenge button flashing you?

signal marlin Aug 10, 2024, 1:10 AM

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Since youre following that guide, are you doing this?

hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 1:11 AM

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Yeah, its been flashing for days

hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 1:11 AM

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signal marlin Since youre following that guide, are you doing this?

Yes, ive done everything I can think of 😭

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 1:12 AM

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@frozen talon got a case of button flashing early still

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 1:14 AM

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hot jungle Yes, ive done everything I can think of 😭

can yopu provide all building lvles to @signal marlin from base 1 and 2 so he can adjust wiki ..

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@signal marlin you can see his base 2 layout... and i had him change his 2 extra yellows at bottom to flat red...

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and you can see his damage/ shield stats

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hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 1:15 AM

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Base 1: 92, 90, 17 Respectively. Base 2: 44, 43, 43, 8

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 1:16 AM

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appreceatied

hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 1:16 AM

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glad to help 🥲

signal marlin Aug 10, 2024, 1:16 AM

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Your sacrifice will push forward base science

hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 1:17 AM

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Anything for the future generations

frozen talon Aug 10, 2024, 1:18 AM

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tame mortar <@220302319995191296> got a case of button flashing early still

@round mountain challenge notifier for base challenge might be too low?

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 1:19 AM

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ty lucky

lean radish Aug 10, 2024, 5:58 AM

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did you quit yet? i had a build that was better than the one on the wiki for that challenge

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use three boosters and make a tripple-boosted parts, it ends up being slightly better than no boosters

hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 7:45 PM

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lean radish use three boosters and make a tripple-boosted parts, it ends up being slightly b...

Legend

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with that advice I changed it to this and it worked like a breeze

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 7:48 PM

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lean radish use three boosters and make a tripple-boosted parts, it ends up being slightly b...

glad it worked for him tbut that was slightly bad advice

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boosters have penalty associated with them... you want to use as few as posible...

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if i recall correctly

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if it maths to a net positive build and is better than old one on wiki though... should replace wiki version

signal marlin Aug 10, 2024, 7:52 PM

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hot jungle with that advice I changed it to this and it worked like a breeze

Still got the same building levels?

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 7:56 PM

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signal marlin Still got the same building levels?

is there a way to archive pages?

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so that when load outs change old ones are not lost in void?

hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 7:57 PM

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signal marlin Still got the same building levels?

my base one red might have gone from 90 to 91 or 92

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but thats about it

signal marlin Aug 10, 2024, 8:12 PM

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tame mortar is there a way to archive pages?

Well the history is permanent

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But its not the most intuitive interface

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 8:13 PM

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😦

signal marlin Aug 10, 2024, 8:13 PM

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Its not lost though

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 8:13 PM

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if the avg "normal" user cant see it its lost 😛

signal marlin Aug 10, 2024, 8:13 PM

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Yeah lol

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Maybe we can add a "Legacy layouts" section at the bottom

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 8:13 PM

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i was going to test both loads when i re-run game

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 8:14 PM

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signal marlin Maybe we can add a "Legacy layouts" section at the bottom

if its to much work or time consuming no point

signal marlin Aug 10, 2024, 8:14 PM

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Nah it would be easy

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So if people think it would be nice I can do that

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 8:15 PM

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other games use legacy guides/loadouts so its definetly qol... but agin.. as its a community project and requires "work" i wont be one to ask for something like that from others...

signal marlin Aug 10, 2024, 8:16 PM

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I think I'll add it, just need to think about how to display it the best without cluttering

tame mortar Aug 10, 2024, 8:17 PM

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Good luck

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if youre one that did new design / dark mode its nice and apealing

signal marlin Aug 10, 2024, 8:20 PM

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Haha I can't take all the credit for that, I only adapted the theme they originally installed

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But all the new components on pages are mine ;)

lean radish Aug 10, 2024, 8:22 PM

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tame mortar glad it worked for him tbut that was slightly bad advice

i was worried about that as i havent done the math

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it was definitely better for ME, but i might have been overlevlled so i am not 100% sure it's objectively better for the building levels the rec says

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if your boosters are ~1.7 it's 9.503 "effective payload slots" that take up 6 slots. so it's like +3.5 extra slots in the base? is that better than the penalty for 3 booster? idk

lean radish Aug 10, 2024, 8:26 PM

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hot jungle my base one red might have gone from 90 to 91 or 92

do you know what your booster multiplier was? what is it now?

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i mean how much does the cross booster building multiply surrounding tiles, not boost in the challenge

hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 8:32 PM

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lean radish do you know what your booster multiplier was? what is it now?

it was level 9 on completion, though I dont know the exact boost amount

lean radish Aug 10, 2024, 8:39 PM

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i dont remember either. it was less than 2... i think

lean radish Aug 10, 2024, 8:41 PM

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signal marlin I think I'll add it, just need to think about how to display it the best without...

collapsible section? subpage?

hot jungle Aug 10, 2024, 8:42 PM

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I want to say 1.88 or something but im no sure

signal marlin Aug 10, 2024, 8:44 PM

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lean radish collapsible section? subpage?

Yeah probably collapsible sections but it needs to have a good layout in them too lol

lean radish Aug 10, 2024, 8:49 PM

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they need the base levels too i suppose

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because the entire point would be that the newer builds could do it sooner

fresh imp Aug 10, 2024, 10:49 PM

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Lol cheesin base carry 3 by our healing the bosses damage on sector 12 with tons of shield

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If you can infinitely absorb the bosses hits, any amount of damage will kill it eventually lol

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Tho 1 beam laser is needed ofc, to prevent shield regen

lean radish Aug 10, 2024, 11:26 PM

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i did think of that, but are you sure you wouldn't easily win with a balanced build at the same stats? you need enough raw sheilds to survive 10 seconds of damage right? which sounds like a lot

fossil goblet Aug 11, 2024, 12:27 AM

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i don't understand this challenge at all

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what loadout should I use?

tame mortar Aug 11, 2024, 12:29 AM

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https://usi.fandom.com/wiki/Base_Carry

USI Wiki

Base Carry

→ https://usi.game-vault.net/wiki/Base_Carry_Challenge_Guide

fossil goblet Aug 11, 2024, 12:30 AM

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thx

fresh imp Aug 12, 2024, 7:10 AM

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lean radish i did think of that, but are you sure you wouldn't easily win with a balanced bu...

pretty much

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Ain't sure

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but mosr likley

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but not taking any damage to the boss is funny lol

void oyster Aug 12, 2024, 11:37 AM

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I am following the base carry 2 challenge setup in the wiki while also having a bit higher levels than the minimum but I failed the boss multiple times. Am I missing something?

signal marlin Aug 12, 2024, 11:37 AM

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hot jungle with that advice I changed it to this and it worked like a breeze

Can you try this and see if it does the trick?

void oyster Aug 12, 2024, 11:39 AM

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I will try it in a sec

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that worked thanks had to do a minor adjustment first though

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having one part is better than 2

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this is much superior to the wiki version it should definitly be changed

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here is the wiki version for comparation.

signal marlin Aug 12, 2024, 12:03 PM

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void oyster this is much superior to the wiki version it should definitly be changed

Thats what I was trying to figure out, thanks

void oyster Aug 12, 2024, 12:07 PM

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I should be the one to thank you I was going insane looking through everything that could be changed I even prestiged to change continuous generators v2 to their tier 1 version because the wiki didn't have v2 in the setup lol.

lean radish Aug 12, 2024, 1:00 PM

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base carry is actually pretty tough i think

#Base Carry Challenge