#Recovery Mode, but better

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dim glade
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Can you provide some sources on the BIOS hacking you're talking about?

golden hedge
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From what I can see Computrance is a proprietary backdoor so I don't think this will be something that an open source OS should push.

dim glade
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If it's a backdoor, this is practically illigal to do, unless you do this to your own hardware

golden hedge
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While I think this could indeed improve UX I think it's not worth it. There are easier alternatives that are also not as controversial.

I see two good solutions apart from it:

  • Secondary recovery boot partition
  • Using a USB stick with a recovery on it
runic leaf
golden hedge
runic leaf
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chrome OS does something similar

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it automatically fixes itself on post

golden hedge
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Well, this is about what happens if the boot partition fails.
In that case the system would just not boot anything developed by vanilla.

golden hedge
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What do you mean? There is no real recovery yet.

golden hedge
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I mean.... Vanilla does store the OS twice. That's pretty much what abroot is. 😅

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One root takes up about 6GB, so a 20GB partition is enough for both systems.

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Your user data is not duplicated, that would be very wasteful.

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Why would you need that?

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Also, you can still enlarge the root if you really need a lot of drivers or something.

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I don't really get the problem here.
There's two roots so if there is data corruption or a bad update you can rollback to the last one.
Then there will be a recovery in the future, so if both fail you can still boot into that.
And then there will be a recovery in the installer, so you can recover from a broken grub.

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And for user data, everyone should make a backup somewhere regardless.

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That is extremely unlikely.
But yeah, in this absolute worst case, you would need an extra vanilla stick lying around.

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The best way to achieve it is in my opinion redundancy, not some magic BIOS feature.

Just install a very small live OS on the side and you will always have something to boot into.

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VanillaOS is that.

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I have no idea what battery life has to do with stability. 🤔

golden hedge
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I mean in this case I would probably just install a light OS twice and let them share the same home folder.
Then trying to install everything in the home folder with stuff like flatpak in user mode and distrobox.

dim glade
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May I ask what you do mean by this? Are you in this situation?

humble kraken
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I think vanilla is that. It's stable enough due to immutability and rollback, feature-rich, fault tolerant due to redundancy (two roots, hopefully a backup partition, and a live system option, providing about 4 points of redundancy), and self-healing, since the remaining points of redundancy can automatically, or provide a platform to manually, fix the OS. Of course, Vanilla OS cannot help with hardware issues.

I believe MacOS and most Linux distributions offer two points of redundancy (the OS itself and a recovery partition) and Windows 3 (those two plus a live environment)

ebon nest
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You just, install them from the software store

humble kraken
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Kernel level? It depends on whether it's inside the debian repository. If it is, that's super easy. If it isn't, you might need to use Vib, which I suggest you ask people here more knowledgeable than me about. But its definitely possible.

dim glade
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I'm in a literal "civilian in a country at war situation", so I know about situations without electricity. But I don't really understand your situation.

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My only guess right now is that you're in a part of Russia like Bashkortostan, where they disabled Internet connection at the time of protests. Is that the case?