How to change the QT theme of KDE Apps on Gnome?

[cinder dune]

I wanted to use this theme for example: https://github.com/GabePoel/KvLibadwaita

how do i apply it?

[unique sable]

IIRC, you need to install Kvantum through Nix, and install the flatpak Kvantum theme

I have done it on Vanilla, but its been a while and I dont remember exactly how

[cinder dune]

thanks man 👍

[idle current]

I think installing kvantum in container also works. I tried it some time ago ad it worked.

[novel cradle]

I think adding built-in support for easy joint theming of Gnome and KDE apps (maybe also xfce and others someday) would be a worthwhile priority for this project. That would be a truly vanilla experience

[idle current]

How is theming even related to being Vanilla? It is the exact opposite of being Vanilla. Theming is a hack and it break apps and makes life hard for developers and everyone associated with the project. We had a discussion about this in the #general channel today.

[novel cradle]

the ability to use apps from different desktops without them visually clashing seems very vanilla to me

[idle current]

They are not "clashing". I don't know what you mean. But Vanilla means leaving the app as they look "by default". Apps using different toolkits will never look same, no matter what you do, anyway.

Vanilla = Not themed, not customized

[idle current]

This particular theme looks like abandoned. Adwaita itself has gone through many updates since this theme was last updated.

[novel cradle]

different people with different aesthetic sensibilities can disagree on this, but dolphin looks bad enough on gnome that I decided to just stick with nautilus

it would be nice to have a simple built-in tool to make linux apps from different families look somewhat compatible, visually speaking

[opaque agate]

that's what fedora tried to do

and they failed miserably

apps shouldn't be themed to look identical, since they're simply made with different toolkits

[opaque agate]

vanilla means unmodified, so no, this would NOT be vanilla

[idle current]

Even if there is such a "tool", Vanilla OS is not the place for it.

[novel cradle]

I didn't say "identical"

[opaque agate]

okay then lets say familiar, doesn't change my point

[royal bear]

to be fair, a unique root system and app installer system isn't vanilla either

this is why you just never use QT apps, they look awful and they'll always look awful

[opaque agate]

kirigami is helping the situation a bunch

[royal bear]

oh yeah the kde stuff

breeze or oxygen? if anything they're worse than vanilla qt

whole thing looks so fragile

[opaque agate]

fragile is an interesting way to describe it lmao

[royal bear]

or have they done a complete 180 since the last time I tried using kde plasma a couple months ago?

[opaque agate]

well not a 180 but they're really trying to improve their consistency

[idle current]

Ironically, they have dropped consistency from their goals...

[idle current]

ABroot is completely vanilla. There is no modifications done to it in Vanilla OS. It is used as is from Upstream (which is Vanilla OS). 😂

[unique sable]

XFCE uses GTK, just like Gnome, Cinnamon, Mate, etc

But Vanilla will never be theming focused, iirc Mirko signed the "Dont theme my apps" letter

[novel cradle]

https://stopthemingmy.app/ I didn't see his name on it, but that was an interesting read. I wasn't really familiar with that perspective, tbh

[novel cradle]

but having abroot is not really a 'vanilla' linux experience. It's just a few small, innovative distros that use it

[unique sable]

At the bottom it lists "Bottles Devs". Mirko is also the owner of Bottlss

[novel cradle]

ah ok

[idle current]

Vanilla does not mean something that all distros use. Vanilla (in this context) essentially means that the distro is shipping all its components as it was intended by the component's developer. That is, without any custom theme, changes or patches.

ABRoot is developed for Vanilla OS mainly, so it is of course it is used without any modifications in Vanilla OS. So, it is "Vanilla".

[novel cradle]

so... a distro dedicated to the idea of defaults? I was under the impression immutability and ability to use multiple package managers were the main distinguishing features. Or is it all 3?

[idle current]

Originally, the idea was to create a Ubuntu based distro with "Vanilla" GNOME. Later, it was expanded to include immutability and ability to use multiple package managers.

[novel cradle]

Interesting