#Is the wide bass too much

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raven coral
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yo

dim yew
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Too muddy, focus on your transients...

round finch
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Dont agree with this guy, think the drums sound great. Love the saturation on them it gives them lots of character. :)) the bass is lacking some sub tho imo

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Okay to be fair the snare sound choice in the beginning is a bit non typical hahah but maybe you put a width plugin or something on it? It seems like there might be some phase issue with it

raven coral
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thank you so much guys

raven coral
raven coral
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but yeah I feel like it needs some extra processing

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thanks everyone

dim yew
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Not muddy? 😉

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raven coral
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Ur saying it's balanced?

formal moat
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cool track goin on here. The trashy vibe makes sense but yeah my only gripe is the bass is lacking definition.

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i'd probably low shelf a bunch of your tracks and see how it affects the bass

raven coral
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by that I mean the Ableton stock amp

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I set it to heavy

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and yes I gotta agree the bass is very abstract

raven coral
formal moat
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I like the bass patch but I'd probably try and parallel distort it to keep the mud away

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yeah too much compression

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that's ott for you hahaha

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you lost all dynamic range and it has that trash vibe - which is fine if you want it to sound like that

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it sounds cool in it's own right

dim yew
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I'd try to get rid of some mud and saturate some high mid and highs,

formal moat
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yeah it offers a nicer balance

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but tbh i'd finish writing the song before dickign around endlessly with mixing and mastering an unfinished song

dim yew
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Yeah and you better fix muddy tracks per instrument and mix them properly

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you only can clean up a mix with what is possibler

formal moat
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yeah for sure. I don't even touch any plugs or devices until it's done, or at least just basic filter sweeps and the rest is blank

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essential sound design only

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mix later

dim yew
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same here, and mix bottom up, drums, bass, all low end first, then mid...

formal moat
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yeah i gainstage from kick and bass

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same same

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anyways saf this is cool! soz to get offtopic lol it's a cool idea. roll with it

dim yew
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this track could need a bit more dynamics for sure, but the idea is nice

raven coral
dim yew
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muddy means there are too many clashes between 80 and 350

raven coral
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and the bass is more defined

raven coral
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how do people see these

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how did you comb it out???

dim yew
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only Eq'd a bit and saturated a few regions in the spectrum

raven coral
dim yew
# raven coral you can see it??!?

look at my screenshot before that big bump in the lower end... it has to be way more equal across the spectrum, ideally even with the high mid a tad higher

raven coral
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r u referencing from pink noise?

dim yew
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no, look at the spectrum of your track compared to the base line

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keeping the low end crispy, wide and the same time make room for kick is something what is pure practice

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no matter if you use a kick with attack or not

raven coral
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there's a weird little bump in-between 1k and below?

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r u talking abt that?

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oh wait

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it's shape is not balanced

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yeah I see it

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the mid-highs

dim yew
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muddy usually is somewhere between 200-500, need ducking, turn it down in the eq and some spectral adjustments

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and a bass does not have to be loud to be heard

raven coral
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to make the bass have some presences at the higher mids?

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so it can be less muddy while still being noticeable?

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am I getting this right haha?

dim yew
raven coral
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ouhh

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I see

formal moat
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Bass saturations helps you hear it on crappy speakers. More harmonic content past 200hz

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If you think your tune is lacking bass, youd often find it might be lacking the low mid presence of your bass

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But that only works if your low mids are clean so the bass can breathe down there with the kick and snare fundamental

raven coral
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but yeah

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Ur right

boreal olive
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From a mixing pov, Kick is too low and the mix sounds congested and distorted, I think you might be working the compressor too hard. You probably need to adjust your levels down and side chain the kick and bass.

raven coral
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and the compression is part of the aesthetic

boreal olive
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You’re right that this is your vision, but on a commercial Ableton channel, I’d just say it sounded bad.

raven coral
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my projects are far from commercial standards lol

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maybe if I actually learn proper music theory

formal moat
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Music theory won't change your preferred mixing method

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Which is 1000x destroy

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Compression

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Which is still all goods

raven coral
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I'm trying to step out of the mindset slowly but

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I just don't like making music that sounds natural

formal moat
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do what you want or you'll lose your individuality

raven coral
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yeah ig

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But

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I'd also like to be able to mix commercially

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maybe like next year after my big test is over I'd grind my time learning music while getting a job

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wait

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that lowkey sounds like a nice lifeplan

formal moat
raven coral
formal moat
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just do both. You'd go crazy if all you did was only mixing

raven coral
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I don't just want skills

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I want PROFESSIONAL skills

formal moat
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yeah so go learn from a profressional and get real lessons

raven coral
formal moat
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you don't have to be a popular producer to make money through the music industry

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keep some level of personal enjoyment in there for sure

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as much as possible

raven coral
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Popularity comes as a bonus

raven coral
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Like some good course

formal moat
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If you don't interact from mentor to student with at least some kind of online call then it won't be what you're looking for

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if you want profressional skills it would be worth considering to treat yourself as one and do it via serious pathways.

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having someone get to know you and your workflow and style to share mixes and musical knowledge will be a fantastic place to start

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paid service.

raven coral
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alr noted sir