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twin meteor Oct 27, 2025, 11:17 AM

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dark scaffold Oct 27, 2025, 11:59 AM

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I dig it loads. Super excited to hear the lyrics to go with it.

My only criticism would be that snare is so very loud. It detracts from the guitar and arpy backing sound before the switch outro

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It's a nicely written song bro! Nice work!

neon urchin Nov 1, 2025, 11:50 PM

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Not listening on my main headset but mix wise it sounds very low - low mid heavy

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Maybe boost some highs on that second lead ish guitar

dark scaffold Nov 2, 2025, 12:56 AM

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it's nice throwing something on this server into ableton and it not clipping

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imma have a look

mortal skiff Nov 2, 2025, 1:00 AM

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Is this going to go to mastering? What feedback are you looking for exactly? I checked the Loudness at around -13 LUFS - is that competitively loud for tracks like this? Also I agree with eq comments above - I would boost a high shelf starting around 500hz with an extra little bump around 500hz and 1700 hz - this makes the track sound a lot more present to my ear. I'm just doing this on my macbook speakers btw

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Okay so I eq'd it like I said and then I pushed it into a limiter until I was reducing just the snare and kick by idk -2 dbs and got the loudness up to -9.... maybe it doesn't have to be that loud but it easily could be

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Honestly the highs are feeling a little harsh now around 1:00 but yeah at the track level rather than the master it should be easier to eq appropriately

dark scaffold Nov 2, 2025, 1:12 AM

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how about this

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went more with what he wanted

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but is loud

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hm but 2:18 on mine sounds shit

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yeah... mine has a bad resonance to it. try again.

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not sure if the pump is favourable tbh. still fun to mess with!

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the original mix is good. Just little less snare and little more brightness is my take

mortal skiff Nov 2, 2025, 3:22 AM

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dark scaffold

Louder and more present is the theme!

dark scaffold Nov 2, 2025, 3:24 AM

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mortal skiff Louder and more present is the theme!

need to reference some other tracks hey

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idk what kind of loudness these guys aim for

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-9 is getting pretty loud and lacking dynamic range

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the guitar breakdown is definitely flat

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dynamically

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but i really like it anyways. sounds cool as

mortal skiff Nov 2, 2025, 3:50 AM

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dark scaffold need to reference some other tracks hey

Yeah I think demonstrating -9 is more of a sign that it can probably get competitively loud because -9 might very well be louder than similar tracks so it may be overkill

dark scaffold Nov 2, 2025, 4:00 AM

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mortal skiff Yeah I think demonstrating -9 is more of a sign that it can probably get competi...

Tbh I didn't even push it into oxford limiter. I just used about 20% on the enhance curve with the slowest attack setting

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It can definitely get loud

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Way louder

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But it'll get fuzzy

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Id say -11 lufs would be the sweet spot for the dynamic clean guitar section

twin meteor Nov 2, 2025, 9:12 AM

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dark scaffold

quite compressed

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i already run compresiion on my masteing chain

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if you want i can send the stems

dark scaffold Nov 2, 2025, 9:15 AM

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Only use Pultec for EQ then I hit it with capitol tube mastering comp but light, and tape master ATR-102. Then oxford limiting.

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I didn't really compress it much tbh.

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You kinda have to compress it for the loudness since your stems have big transients

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Nah it's all good I was just practicing. Your mix is goodz just check references in the genre

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less transient chop

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still fing loud i reckon it's too much ahhahaha but it slaps

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i really have no idea what is considered competitive in the genre you are playing. Anthem? Not sure.

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generally anthems are loud

twin meteor Nov 2, 2025, 9:45 AM

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dark scaffold Nah it's all good I was just practicing. Your mix is goodz just check references...

yeah dude i can send you themm its no issue if you wanna practice

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made a really messed up song

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@dark scaffold

dark scaffold Nov 2, 2025, 9:53 AM

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i just submitted one assignment, I'm just finishing up a retrowave / electronica track for another lol

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no time yet

dark scaffold Nov 2, 2025, 9:54 AM

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twin meteor yeah dude i can send you themm its no issue if you wanna practice

ah yeah sweet ill get back to you later on that. that would be helpful

dark scaffold Nov 2, 2025, 11:19 AM

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currently listening to a king gizz album and it's -5.6 lufs

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sounds fantastic and tonally balanced.

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i feel like they introduce dynamics with energy instead

mortal skiff Nov 2, 2025, 7:57 PM

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dark scaffold But it'll get fuzzy

The limiter should only respond to the loudest transients - ideally it doesn't create additional distortion. Just to reference another convo we had - this is the same for when I mention clippers to increase loudness. These are meant to be transparent adjustments.

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I've heard someone say the limiter should dance with the kick and snare (if those are the loudest elements) and respond to nothing else.

mortal skiff Nov 2, 2025, 8:08 PM

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dark scaffold currently listening to a king gizz album and it's -5.6 lufs

That's pretty dang loud! But just because something is loud doesn't mean it has no dynamics To me the ability to get that loud represents good separation of instrumentation because the only way to get that loud is to not have frequencies from multiple tracks summing in ways that create huge peaks when two instruments hit at the same time. If you have that separation then you don't need to push a limiter as hard because transient peaks are lower (not summing massively w other tracks) and you retain more of the dynamics because the loud stuff is louder and the quiet stuff is louder too. But yeah, some dynamics get lost whenever utilizing the ceiling of a clipper or limiter, but especially with drum transients it is often not discernable until you push it pretty hard.

twin meteor Nov 2, 2025, 9:37 PM

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