#hey, i made some shoegaze and i would like to get some opinions on where to take the melody
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Lemme get my ||head||phones and give this a listen
Maybe a regional variant
-_-
Can I ask questions
ofc
Or do you just want basic reactions
no
Can you tell me more about the instruments
I'm guessing these are real guitars you recorded
Bass is probably midi
Drums are probably programmed?
everything is electronic
The vocal is really mild compared to the guitars
It's pretty genre correct to me
Like, nothing stands out as "oh well that doesn't fit"
Biggest thing I want is a reason to focus somewhere
But depending on your intention,
You might intentionally be not doing that
At least in headphones tho, it sounds solid.
Well rounded in good ways
thank you 
ill try to add a catchier melody
i currently have a good base
but theres just something missing
true
Well,
Are there any songs you think are somewhat similar that you like and dont feel have something missing
Any examples come to mind?
How long ya been doing stuff like this?
this is heavenly
the more that i think of it i think i just need a better melody plus fitting vocals
ive been producing for 2 years and this is my 2nd shoegaze song (the first one sucked harmony wise)
Ok lemme see
Ahh
Is the vocal and lyrics the thing you focus on a lot that you're missing?
Any reason you don't have an attempt?
yeah i mean i think i could come up with some lyrics (would make the song way more personal) but im lowk scared XD
sure
Because we are in the same boat here
It has loads of flaws lol
So, I often feel embarrassed lol
its a funny context but if you look at the music theres nothing that sticks out to me as "bad"
i cant judge the mix because i have airpods on
dont downplay yourself... 
I'm just calling it like I hear it
lol
But regardless, what im trying to get at is that if you just do stuff anyway regardless of how you feel, you get real experience
So, I'm making myself share dumb stuff I hate parts of
I figure that should kill off me caring
the drums are a bit stiff imo but i like the melodies, especially the guitar
Yep
The drums are boring
I'm not fast at good drums lol
The vocals are both fx'd badly
The vocals in this are a mess lol but part of that is bc my boy Dez uses AirPods for a mic lol
half time the whole project and program your drums like that
???
it works wonders
Yeah I've done that sometimes!
I'm still figuring out how to think of drums I guess
I don't plan them well enough
But I keep making things and noticing stuff
Drums and bass design are my two big focus areas right now
hmmm like i said, make a story
you sound design
?
I must become ....
Phil Collins!
Ya you wanna hear a thing I did when I was 15-16 that's all my own sounds besides one drum loop?
sure 
It sounds pretty flippin real lol
It was for me yeah and I play guitar
NICE BECAUSE I HATED EVERY SECOND OF PROGRAMMING THESE IN LOL
back to the beat
Those are all custom synth patches in Reason
Besides the drum loop I chopped
The overall mix is kinda quiet and weak lol
Took four hours on a Sunday
im getting "hunted in the forest by a mysterious person" vibes
idk if you went for that
No idea how I do what I do
but the patches are nice
do you know how to create pads?
i know the basics but like i suck at sound designing
DAMN
I have no idea if that's rare or common
if you can synthesize the arp that is playing on "little boy" that would be sick
i think its pretty rare
What synths do you use
because most people give up when they open up a synth XD
serum, pigments and nexus, i think those are the main ones
i have the arturia and korg collection aswell
nice
they say pigments is the best on the market rn
correct me if im wrong but i think pigments has every synth "style"
Hm I have no idea hehe but that's an interesting idea
You're talking about the 3 note arp at the end?
Rising arp
Hmm. I wonder. How good at identifying instruments are you / other people
yeah
which instruments?
Hmm idk like anything you hear in recorded audio
How easy is it to go "that's a ____"
I tend to know more often than not
i think so too
I mean I might be crude and say "a synth"
but then theres a million flutes and horns and stuff like that
Hehe yeah depending on tone and pitch ranges
I think the timing and effects stuff on that arp would be the hardest part to get close to identical
But the basic sound isn't that bad
it was just a joke btw, i mean you can do it as a challenge if you want
but like i love having songs like that where i just cant get my head around it
kinda magical
hmmm probably chat a bit and then go to sleep
i actually wanted to go to bed 4 hours ago 
me rn
me rn + 5 hours 
alright, ill go sleep now
was a nice conversation, have a great night/day
I love shoegaze, this is solid.. a lot of shoegaze is garbage sadly please keep making more

