🐴┃off-topic-chat

[ancient pine]

I hate ronin series

[unique vapor]

ilike em for the looks

[ancient pine]

zero ventilation, you'll be hot a f in that thing and no space for breathing

[unique vapor]

its got fans too

nah they added fans on it

[ancient pine]

the visiblity is so bad

[unique vapor]

true

💀

[ancient pine]

which decreased the protection

[stable fractal]

Fans? Who needs fans use ur lungs

[faint sparrow]

🥵

[unique vapor]

they fixed the issue with blurry ness with another vent

for goggles

[ancient pine]

fans in means of cooling down

[ancient pine]

it's a pain to clear when it gets foggy

[stable fractal]

Who needs that just force your brain to think it's cold

[ancient pine]

this ballistic Wendy is a better alternative

coms systems, good visibility and ventilation

[unique vapor]

they added a fan for it too lol

[vestal valley]

wonderin if you have to sub to play the game

[midnight marsh]

Huh

[ancient pine]

pass out due to hot temperatures in the middle of a gun fight

[midnight marsh]

Wdym

[ancient pine]

it's not a permanent fix

[vestal valley]

monthly fee

[ancient pine]

a fan only decreases the fog

or clears it a bit

[stable fractal]

Shoot at poeple who don't shoot back

[midnight marsh]

No I mean what do you mean “ to play”

[ancient pine]

you tryna commit warcrimes

[unique vapor]

geneva suggestions

[ancient pine]

Russian k63 still kinda nice

overall padding and protection feels nice but just a bit heavy

[vestal valley]

so the games free?

[unique vapor]

yes

[stable fractal]

We using the morgue as a gunrange , free targets

[ancient pine]

Geneva convention moment

@unique vapor y u no mentor

[vestal valley]

im hoping soon to get cs paint on my phone

[unique vapor]

i got bored of logging

[midnight marsh]

You just download the game and play yeah

[unique vapor]

answers

tedious work

[ancient pine]

sounds like you got lazy

[unique vapor]

true ialso gto sick for 2 weeks

[ancient pine]

got COVID or smth

[unique vapor]

nah iwas undergoing chemo

💀

[ancient pine]

cancer?

[unique vapor]

leukemia and lung cancer

[ancient pine]

why do so many people here have cancer

[unique vapor]

💀

no clue

[ancient pine]

is chemotherapy painful

[unique vapor]

icant do blood transfusion so my only option is chemo

very

• you have to be bald

L

[vestal valley]

ive done chemo its not fun

[ancient pine]

maybe I should stop visiting Chernobyl

[unique vapor]

you should

its expensive too

[vestal valley]

chemo isnt painful per say, just seriously cold

[ancient pine]

nah just ride cargo trains illegally you'll get there in 3 days

[midnight marsh]

Not if you’re in America

[unique vapor]

imma play wait

[vestal valley]

you can lose hair due to chemo , and it messes with your body

[ancient pine]

I don't think you can fly in Russia anymore

[vestal valley]

russia isnt worth flying to

[ancient pine]

no hair is a benefit is it not

[midnight marsh]

Chernobyl is in Ukraine tho

[ancient pine]

no hair means no lice, no hair bugs, no dandruff

[vestal valley]

i happen to like my long hair

[midnight marsh]

Why would I in the first place 💀

[vestal valley]

russia is trash

[ancient pine]

visit good ol radioactive Chernobyl

[stable fractal]

Recreating no russian

[midnight marsh]

I’m not even sure I can legally leave the USA

[vestal valley]

im debating trying to play the game, or study japanese an draw

[ancient pine]

go study

[stable fractal]

Drawing and Japanese =stupid
ab = fun

[stable fractal]

No , AB

[ancient pine]

I'm at a point where I'm playing ab irl

[vestal valley]

you are a xenophobe @stable fractal

[midnight marsh]

I’m really resistant to playing the game 2 finger ngl

[midnight marsh]

Like codm I can play that 2 finger no problem since there’s not really that much you need to press

[ancient pine]

imagine seeing this on the battlefield

[vestal valley]

ill draw a lewd loli just to send it to u

[midnight marsh]

But playing this 2 finger feels so wrong

[stable fractal]

Tf is that

[vestal valley]

you hate japanese

[midnight marsh]

It’s not specifically Japanese

[stable fractal]

That'd just be racism

[midnight marsh]

It’s just prejudice against people from other countries

Like reverse nationalism

[ancient pine]

does breaking bad actually show you how to make drugs

[midnight marsh]

No

They left out a lot of it

[dusty locust]

Isn't xenophobe being scared of aliens or something

[keen cairn]

👍

[midnight marsh]

No I just explained it

[stable fractal]

No they make sure it isnt

[ancient pine]

ironically I'm doing law enforcement but making dirty money seems easy and I kinda want some dough

[midnight marsh]

This is all

[dusty locust]

I never knew that's the actual meaning

[midnight marsh]

I had to google it myself, I’ve only recently heard the word, never knew what it meant

[ancient pine]

then they must know the actual recipe if they make sure the show doesn't give us it

[stable fractal]

Ye

[stable fractal]

They do indeed

[midnight marsh]

They used candy on set actually

[dusty locust]

Humanity number 1 Rahhhh 🦅🦅🦅

[ancient pine]

gonna go ask the breaking bad crew some questions

[midnight marsh]

The blue meth they have on screen is just candy

[vestal valley]

im just going to draw

[cerulean pewter]

Kkkkk

[midnight marsh]

Bryan Cranston did an interview about something him and Aaron did with it

[ancient pine]

Aaron made waltah white eat rock candy on set

[midnight marsh]

Yeee

[surreal axle]

Yes indeed

[midnight marsh]

Btw the chemical makeup of it is easily able to be searched online, just like practically any chemical tbh

[ancient pine]

the internet can't legally give you an accurate meth recipe

or it can but doesn't explain the process

[midnight marsh]

You do know there’s blueprints for nukes and other stuff online right

[ancient pine]

good luck aquiring the materials

unless your Elon musk don't even think about building a nuke

[midnight marsh]

The thing is when it comes to crank, it doesn’t take anything crazy

[ancient pine]

you'd need an intire lab, a testing field and researchers

good luck getting the money for all that

[midnight marsh]

Lab yea, but when it comes to biker crank they just cook it and sell it

[ancient pine]

not to mention the government is probably gonna notice on a project that big

[midnight marsh]

I mean biker gangs have been doing it for decades 🤷🏽‍♂️

[ancient pine]

it's not like you can make an atomic bomb in your backyard

[midnight marsh]

Not necessarily true

[ancient pine]

the firepower is only of a hand grenade

warhead would be to small to actually be fully functional

[midnight marsh]

They call them dirty bombs for a reason

[ancient pine]

yeah IED

[midnight marsh]

No

[ancient pine]

it's called an IED and it's popular among terrorists

unless your talking about bio warfare

[midnight marsh]

Ied is an inprovised explosive device, practically a claymore or landmine that was randomly put together with materials

[ancient pine]

to be classified as an IED it's a made at home bomb basically

[midnight marsh]

A dirty bomb is something else

[ancient pine]

a bioweapon

good luck making one

[midnight marsh]

Not always a bio weapon

[ancient pine]

miniature radioactive weapons

still technically bio warfare

[midnight marsh]

All you need is radioactive material and an explosive

Chemical warfare technically

[ancient pine]

not enough to level a block but the overtime duration is dangerous

[midnight marsh]

Anthrax would be bio warfare

[ancient pine]

bio warfare is chemical warfare

[midnight marsh]

They’re two different classes of it no

[ancient pine]

but to make a dirty bomb you'd need something highly radioactive

[midnight marsh]

Chemical agents are hazardous substances that usually would make you sick immediately. Examples of chemical agents include mustard gas, cyanide, and sarin. Biological agents are usually viruses or bacteria which may take several days to make you sick once you are infected.

Completely different

[ancient pine]

very similar things

[midnight marsh]

How

[ancient pine]

and I know for a fact you pulled that off of google

[midnight marsh]

Does that matter

[ancient pine]

let's use logic here bud

[midnight marsh]

I am but okay

[ancient pine]

what's the point of biological weapons

to make you sick

what's the point of chemical

also to make you sick

you getting hit by explosives or bullets? no

[midnight marsh]

You don’t have to

[ancient pine]

google maybe say they are different but the target is all the same

[midnight marsh]

The target may be the same yes

But that doesn’t mean they are the same thing

Is a burger the same as a chicken?

[ancient pine]

a pistol is a gun

a rifle is also a gun

but they are very different

one fires automatic and bigger caliber the other semi auto and smaller

[midnight marsh]

They’re both a projectile based weapon

[ancient pine]

but in the end they are guns and intended to harm you

[midnight marsh]

A chemical weapon is not a biological weapon

[ancient pine]

chemicals are in bio weapons

you can't just fit a virus in a bomb

[midnight marsh]

Technically chemicals are In literally every single thing in existence

[ancient pine]

you need something to contain it first

[midnight marsh]

That doesn’t make the food I eat a chemical weapon

[ancient pine]

when I meant chemicals I meant toxins

and other dangerous chemicals

[midnight marsh]

And why do you think there’s classifications such as biotoxin and chemical toxins

They aren’t the same thing

[ancient pine]

there's really no point

[midnight marsh]

They don’t even effect you In the same way

[ancient pine]

back to the pistol and rifle

pistols don't do as much damage as a rifle does it

[midnight marsh]

Not a good analogy

[ancient pine]

the point is

do you agree?

if not go take it up with the national defense groups

[midnight marsh]

Agree with what

You got auto mod so

[ancient pine]

No I didn't

[midnight marsh]

There’s nothing inbetween “the point is” and “ do you agree”

So yeah

[ancient pine]

discord bug moment

[midnight marsh]

Things can be different and still intend to do the same thing

[ancient pine]

explain what makes up a chemical weapon

[midnight marsh]

Chemicals

[ancient pine]

to cause what kind of damage

[midnight marsh]

It doesn’t matter

[next glen]

What is going on💀

[ancient pine]

talking about bombs

[next glen]

🤯

[ancient pine]

mind blown

[midnight marsh]

Biological warfare isn’t the same thing as chemical warfare

[dusty locust]

Just people having a civil conversation

[next glen]

I guess so yh

[midnight marsh]

They intend to do the same thing yes but they are not the same thing

Chemical warfare involves literal chemicals to do it

Biological uses viruses and bacterium

[ancient pine]

poison too

[midnight marsh]

Poisons would just be classified as chems

[ancient pine]

since you wanna use Google

I'll use it too

poisons are classified as bio

[midnight marsh]

I mean not everything I’m saying is from google but previous research

“Food poisoning”

Bacteria induced

[ancient pine]

I'll give you another example

hold on

[midnight marsh]

Go ahead

Food poisoning is literally caused by bacteria so it’s a clear bio

How about ricin

Ricin would be a chemical agent

[ancient pine]

google says it's natural

now here's a new factor

[midnight marsh]

I looked into it and yeah according to this you are right about the ricin

[ancient pine]

there's only 1 difference

Bio weapons are usually organic and chemo is not

that's the only difference I see

[ancient pine]

yeah one is organic the other one is not

[midnight marsh]

The intent is the same, the methodology and what makes them up isn’t

[ancient pine]

I wonder what the mods think of us talking about lethal weapons in off topic

[midnight marsh]

That’s my whole point is they intend to do the same thing, and yet they are different

[ancient pine]

a slight difference

but awfully similar

[midnight marsh]

They interlap with eachother, but in the end they are not the same thing

[ancient pine]

then lemme ask

[midnight marsh]

If I have similar qualities to Donald trump( not saying that I do or don’t) does that make me Donald trump?

[ancient pine]

what can bio weapons do that chemical weapons can not

[midnight marsh]

They do different things

[ancient pine]

such as

in terms of what damage can they do

[midnight marsh]

The agent used is literally what dictates the damage

[ancient pine]

yeah give me an example

[midnight marsh]

Anthrax vs mustard gas

[ancient pine]

mustard gas isn't considered lethal

[midnight marsh]

Yes it is

[ancient pine]

not enough to immediately kill you but if exposed long enough then it'll be lethal

[ancient pine]

if it's so dangerous why do the us military put their soldiers in a chamber with that gas

[midnight marsh]

They use tear gas

[ancient pine]

there are specific branches that do use mustard gas

provided with gas masks

to lessen the toxins

I've seen it

[midnight marsh]

Maybe so but the majority is tear

[midnight marsh]

But back to this

[ancient pine]

yes give me a type of chemo weapon that can do something a bio weapon can't

[midnight marsh]

I did

[ancient pine]

this?

[midnight marsh]

And the one above it yea

[ancient pine]

radioactive substances can cause similar effects

give me something completely different

[midnight marsh]

So can Covid and a common cold

[ancient pine]

they aren't lethal

COVID isn't lethal anymore at least

[midnight marsh]

That’s not the point of what I just said

The point is

Just because things can do similar things, doesn’t mean they are the same

You can type in this chat as I can

Are we the same person

You eat food as do I

Are we the same person

[ancient pine]

no but are we human

[midnight marsh]

But not the same human

[frank trellis]

I eating rice now

[midnight marsh]

This is the entire point

Are adidas slides the same thing as steel toe boots?

No, but they have similar uses

[ancient pine]

what your saying is the outcome is the same but the process is different?

[midnight marsh]

I suppose that’s a way to put it I guess

[ancient pine]

what would you say is more dangerous

chemo or bio

[midnight marsh]

Depends on the agent

[ancient pine]

in terms of actual warfare

[ancient pine]

overall

[midnight marsh]

Well

Since bio weapons haven’t been used on large scale that’s the only reason I’d go with Chem

[ancient pine]

and why haven't bio weapons been used a lot?

[midnight marsh]

Chemical weapons are easier to produce

[ancient pine]

easier to use id say

[midnight marsh]

They can both be used as easily as eachother tbh

[ancient pine]

but also easier to get rid of

[ancient pine]

you can't contain a virus like a chemical

[midnight marsh]

You can manufacture chemicals way easier than biological anything

[ancient pine]

but chemicals can be dealt with much easier with correct countermeasures

[midnight marsh]

So we agree that they are not the same

[ancient pine]

sure ig but it's pretty pointless

they do the same damn thing

[midnight marsh]

So does eating chicken or switching it to a protein shake

You get protein

[ancient pine]

there's a saying in the army, "the process doesn't matter, only the outcome does"

[midnight marsh]

A pen can go through your chin up through it the same as a finger with 15 psi

[ancient pine]

the outcome is the same is it not

[midnight marsh]

My entire point was that tho, they can do the same thing and still be different

[ancient pine]

so does it matter what you choose

[midnight marsh]

13 + 5 and 11 + 7 are both 18

They aren’t the same equation

[ancient pine]

does it matter tho?

they both have the same outcome

the intire reason for there to be a process, is so there can be an outcome

[midnight marsh]

Look at it like a court case for determining if the person committed murder or acted in self defense

The person died, but the method used is different

[ancient pine]

that's way more complicated than it seems

[midnight marsh]

It’s the same thing

[ancient pine]

you tryna say he still killed a man?

[midnight marsh]

But did he do it in self defense or cold blood murder

[ancient pine]

not really no the outcome isn't the same

that is LAW

[midnight marsh]

The person is still dead

[ancient pine]

wether you did it in self defense or not that determines your sentence

[midnight marsh]

The person still died

[ancient pine]

but chemo and bio weaponry, you killed someone with it and thats that

[midnight marsh]

The point again, just because they can do the same thing, doesn’t mean they are the same thing

A pressure washer can do what a shovel can

[stable fractal]

Yo who knows some good ab ccs

[ancient pine]

go ask in gen chat

[ancient pine]

can a shovel do what a pressure washer can

[midnight marsh]

No

[ancient pine]

then that's a contradiction to this debate

[midnight marsh]

No

[ancient pine]

can a shovel clean

[stable fractal]

I did

[ancient pine]

can a bio weapon kill someone by making them sick? yes and so can a chemo weapon

[midnight marsh]

But are they the same

[ancient pine]

the outcome goes both ways

[stable fractal]

Imow kinda doudou cause valorant and r6 content

[midnight marsh]

Doesn’t matter what the outcome is

Are they the same thing

[stable fractal]

The other ccs kinda lame gameplay wise

[midnight marsh]

Is a pen the same as a pencil?

[ancient pine]

you trying to compare a knife with a gun?

[midnight marsh]

Or a pen the same as a writing quill

[stable fractal]

So am looking for good players that actually have good content u knw

[midnight marsh]

How about a writing quill and a calligraphy pen?

[ancient pine]

the outcome is to write

[stable fractal]

Like dread or something

[midnight marsh]

What about tap water and bottle water

It doesn’t matter what the outcome is

Are they the same thing

[ancient pine]

if the outcome doesn't matter than this intire debate doesn't matter

[stable fractal]

I'd say he has some pretty good nr blockade gameplay

Also am already subscribed to alot of them

But it's not enough

Content be dry af, or repetitive

I need me some nr blockade content specifically

[midnight marsh]

Not true as it’s the point, if two things can do the same thing, like a pen or pencil to write, are they the same

[stable fractal]

F summit btw

[midnight marsh]

One writes in graphite and one in permanent ink

[stable fractal]

That's a weird looking pfo

P*

[midnight marsh]

Mine?

[stable fractal]

Yup

[midnight marsh]

How so

It’s just a picture of me

[ancient pine]

but it's writes does it not

[stable fractal]

I think it's bcz of the quality

[midnight marsh]

But are they the same thing

[stable fractal]

I wish we could zoom on pics in discord

Zoom on pfps i mean

[midnight marsh]

You won’t answer the question

They can achieve the same outcome and yet still be different

Is a pen a pencil?

[stable fractal]

Or i think it would be more correct to say i wish we could see them in a bigger form

[midnight marsh]

Simple yes or no

Is a pen a pencil?

[stable fractal]

It's a pen + cil

[ancient pine]

the specifications no they are not

[midnight marsh]

.

[stable fractal]

Y'all r funny

[ancient pine]

yet awfully similar no?

that's also my point here

[midnight marsh]

Does that matter though

[ancient pine]

very much yes

[midnight marsh]

How so

[ancient pine]

your stating that 2 completely different things can do the same thing

[midnight marsh]

I’m also stating two similar things doesn’t make them the same thing

What are you misunderstanding

[ancient pine]

what are you misunderstanding?

[midnight marsh]

It was a genuine question, not a patronizing comment

What am I saying that you are misunderstanding

[ancient pine]

you're misunderstanding the whole point here of your side

[midnight marsh]

No I’m not, I’m saying the same thing I have been

[ancient pine]

2 similar things can do the same thing sure they are different but 2 completely different things CANNOT do the same thing like a door and a car tire

[ancient pine]

so am I

[midnight marsh]

Two things can be similar or different, achieve the same outcome, and yet NOT be the same thing.

[ancient pine]

sure but you stated 2 completely different things can do the exact same thing

a shovel and a power washer

what similarities does it share

[midnight marsh]

Digging dirt

[ancient pine]

then why don't we switch it around

[midnight marsh]

People use pressure washers to safely expose tree roots without cutting them with a shovel

[ancient pine]

it's like saying a knife cna stab propel but so can a rifle stock if you press it hard enough

[midnight marsh]

Yes

[ancient pine]

I'm talking can you pressure wash windows with a shovel

[midnight marsh]

No

[ancient pine]

there you go

not the same outcome

[midnight marsh]

Okay so go back to literally every other example I gave instead of one nitpick

[ancient pine]

you changed the intire topic in them

[midnight marsh]

No I didn’t

[ancient pine]

Law and order

[midnight marsh]

You already agreed

[ancient pine]

but your contradicting yourself

[midnight marsh]

How so

[ancient pine]

switched around, then the outcome is different

[midnight marsh]

By one messed up analogy?

[ancient pine]

it's your so called "point"

[unique vapor]

why Re you fighting now

[ancient pine]

not really a fight

[midnight marsh]

My point is two things can achieve the same outcome, whether they be similar or different, and not be the same thing

[ancient pine]

more of a debate

[unique vapor]

also free loot

[midnight marsh]

I said that and that’s what I’ve continued to stand by

[ancient pine]

but can the outcome still be the same after the roles have switched?

[midnight marsh]

Does that make them the same thing

[ancient pine]

no but is the outcome the same?m

[midnight marsh]

Is a whale a dolphin? They both swim and have to breath air

[ancient pine]

yes or no simple question

[midnight marsh]

You’re answering my question with a question that I answered in my original question ffs

[ancient pine]

ffs your contradicting yourself here man

[midnight marsh]

Two things can be similar or different

And have the same outcome

But be two different things

[ancient pine]

this is where your contradicting yourself

[midnight marsh]

That’s not contradicting that’s literally what I’ve been saying

[midnight marsh]

A pen is not a pencil but they still write

A dolphin is not a whale or human but they can all 3 swim and all 3 have to breath air

[ancient pine]

yes if the roles were switched the outcome is the same

[midnight marsh]

Are you even reading what I’m typing

[ancient pine]

are you reading your own messages

[midnight marsh]

Yes

[stiff mountain]

wot

[surreal axle]

Indeed

[stable fractal]

an🅱️rew rate

[ancient pine]

then do you agree that with your intire debate, your point tryna prove a power washer can do the same as a shovel has a contradiction?

or are you so stubborn to admit it

[stable fractal]

The hell is happening here?

[ancient pine]

talking about bombs

[midnight marsh]

If you actually read what I said

[stable fractal]

Bloody hell WITH OUT ME?

[surreal axle]

Agreed

[midnight marsh]

I admitted I made a messed up analogy once

[ancient pine]

nah your late

[midnight marsh]

But you’re nitpicking that one mistake and not taking anything else into consideration

[ancient pine]

we were talking about nukes and bio bombs 10 mins ago ur kinda late

[stable fractal]

Bloody muppet warn me next time

[ancient pine]

your trying to prove that "mistake" to be the truth?

[midnight marsh]

No

[ancient pine]

then why do you keep on this debate?

[midnight marsh]

A pen is not a pencil but they still both write

The outcome is the same yet the two things are different

[ancient pine]

do you not understand language and purpose man

[unique vapor]

smart people and dumb people both talk too

[surreal axle]

Wha

[midnight marsh]

I think you are purposefully trying to just be a hardon

[ancient pine]

your avoiding my intire question

[midnight marsh]

Where?

[ancient pine]

this

[midnight marsh]

I did answer that

[ancient pine]

with?

you keep on trying to prove it

for example right now

[midnight marsh]

This and

[ancient pine]

and pencil and pen

[midnight marsh]

This

[ancient pine]

but your still trying to prove that it's right?

[midnight marsh]

Not the pressure washer and shovel analogy tf

You really are nitpicking one thing we already moved passed

[ancient pine]

your statement is like a math equation, one simple mistake can be very misleading

[midnight marsh]

And then when you give 5 other correct examples they get ignored but okay

[ancient pine]

because your giving examples upon examples

[midnight marsh]

That’s what you wanted tho…

You literally asked for that

[ancient pine]

yes

but like I just said

one mistake can be misleading

[midnight marsh]

That’s not my fault since you had plenty of context and even a statement saying that wasn’t a good analogy

So you being misled on that is your own doing

[ancient pine]

sure I don't blame you

[midnight marsh]

But back to the original point of this entire conversation without you nitpicking one messed up analogy

[ancient pine]

but this caused a chain reaction making me think your still trying to prove a wrong statement

[midnight marsh]

A chemical weapon and a biological weapon, while having the same outcome, are not the same thing

[ancient pine]

didn't we already agree on this a while ago

[midnight marsh]

A pen and a pencil, while achieving the same outcome, are not the same thing

[midnight marsh]

So what are you saying I’m wrong about now

[ancient pine]

that's my question for you

[midnight marsh]

Because you’re misleading me in what you’re even debating anymore

Wait

If you’re asking me what I’m wrong about

Then you don’t think I’m wrong

[ancient pine]

you've already proved the point with the bio weapon and chemo weapon yeah?

we've already settled that so why bring it up again

wait

[midnight marsh]

Because that’s what the current debate is based on

[ancient pine]

I'm genuinely confused

why are we still debating then

[midnight marsh]

If you agree that two things, that can be similar or different, but achieve the same outcome, are two different things

[midnight marsh]

Then you’ve been debating for nothing

[ancient pine]

yeah but with the condition that switched around the outcome doesn't change

[midnight marsh]

That’s not the point

[ancient pine]

if your statements fullfil that then this debate Is worthless

[midnight marsh]

Are they the same thing

Is a pen a pencil?

Easy question

Doesn’t matter what they do, or anything, just a simple is a pen a pencil.

[ancient pine]

no it is not

here's the thing

[midnight marsh]

Then What are you debating

You’re literally agreeing with my points

[ancient pine]

what are you debating?

[stable fractal]

No a pen uses ink , a pencil uses pencil lead

[midnight marsh]

I’ve said that multiple times

[ancient pine]

you said in your debate that the outcome doesn't matter, and now that it does

[midnight marsh]

I said for that specific question

[ancient pine]

not the shovel

not that

[ancient pine]

this

you go back and forth and you cause me to be confused

[midnight marsh]

Wait a second no I didn’t say the outcome matters

[ancient pine]

but your stating in all your examples that the outcome is the same

[midnight marsh]

Which is to set a constant

[ancient pine]

if it doesn't matter why the same outcome

why not just say, is a knife a firearm

[midnight marsh]

The debate is about the first part of the statement

[ancient pine]

here's where the confusion starts

you say the outcome doesn't matter yet all your examples have the same outcome which makes me think your stating the outcome does matter but there being a still difference

[midnight marsh]

The outcome is always the same

A pen and pencil write

[ancient pine]

yet you state the outcome doesn't matter didn't you

[midnight marsh]

Yet they are two different things with similar and different qualities

[ancient pine]

do you see the confusion on my end here?

[midnight marsh]

No

[ancient pine]

still?

[midnight marsh]

You’re confusing yourself on simple stuff tbh

[ancient pine]

there are 2 major contradictions your making me loop around

[midnight marsh]

A pen is not a pencil yet they still achieve the same outcome

[stable fractal]

breaks in

+w+

[midnight marsh]

They are not the same thing

[ancient pine]

does the outcome matter?

[midnight marsh]

No

It’s the same outcome

[stable fractal]

I'm here to be obnoxious mneheheeyeh

[midnight marsh]

What matters are the items

[ancient pine]

if your trying to prove to me that things are different why not compare a gun to a knife

[midnight marsh]

A gun uses projectiles to pierce at a high velocity, a knife uses a blade to stab or slash at a low velocity

They don’t do the same thing

[ancient pine]

exactly

[midnight marsh]

They don’t even have the same outcome

[ancient pine]

why couldn't you go with that to begin with

[midnight marsh]

Because that’s not what this is

[ancient pine]

compare let's say a car to plane

[ancient pine]

then what the hell is this

your trying to prove to me there are different things no?

[midnight marsh]

IF YOU WOULD try to not be so combative with everything I say

You might be able to understand

I’ll say it again

[ancient pine]

the only one combative with statements is you

[midnight marsh]

Not really but okay

The point still stand that two things can do the same thing and still be different

You’ve agreed to that so idk why you’re trying to say that’s wrong

[ancient pine]

your the one trying to debate with me?

starting off

with the bio and chemo

[stable fractal]

[midnight marsh]

Because you can’t make up whether you agree or don’t yes I’m debating

[ancient pine]

we agreed they are similar but not the same

yes or no

de we agree

[midnight marsh]

So what are you saying

[stable fractal]

[ancient pine]

answer my question

[stable fractal]

[ancient pine]

yes or no

[stable fractal]

[midnight marsh]

I did before you even asked it

[stable fractal]

[ancient pine]

on the first debate

[stable fractal]

[midnight marsh]

Link the question or restate it

[ancient pine]

we agreed chemo and bio aren't the same, they are similar despite the outcome being the same

yes or no

[stable fractal]

[ancient pine]

answer me one Last damn time

[stable fractal]

[ancient pine]

is a yes or no question so hard?

[midnight marsh]

That’s what I’m saying yes and we already established we agree, so what are you saying I’m wrong about now

[ancient pine]

so you say yes

then what the hell are you still debating with me for

up until now

[midnight marsh]

What are you still disagreeing on that’s what

[ancient pine]

you keep on trying to prove an already proven point

[midnight marsh]

Because you say I’m wrong on something and won’t tel me what it is

[formal gazelle]

🍿

[midnight marsh]

You even said “that’s my question for you”

[ancient pine]

what did I say you were wrong about

QUOTE ME

[midnight marsh]

One sec I will

[midnight marsh]

Here

[ancient pine]

you admitted one of your statements was wrong no?

[stable fractal]

[ancient pine]

I'll quote you too

[formal gazelle]

Drugs

[midnight marsh]

We established that already

[ancient pine]

this

I'm right that your wrong

[midnight marsh]

But what I’m getting at is even after you’ve agreed with what I’m saying, you still are trying to debate

[ancient pine]

no?

[ancient pine]

your the one that keeps on throwing debates and examples at me my man

[midnight marsh]

Because it took that long for you to understand wtf I’m saying

[ancient pine]

your proving a point that's already established, then making contradictions down the road

[midnight marsh]

So in the end it’s established

I’m not making contradictions but okay man

If you really believe that so be it

[ancient pine]

do you know what the hell a contradiction is

[midnight marsh]

Going against what you believe or say yes

In the simple sense of the word

[ancient pine]

exactly

[midnight marsh]

And I’ve stood by what I’ve said 100%

In the end we agree that they are not the same thing and that’s that

[ancient pine]

you trying to prove that 2 different things that have the same outcome aren't the same thing

[midnight marsh]

Which we agreed is the case

[ancient pine]

as to disprove me in your sense that you thought I believed 2 different things with the same outcome was the same thing

[ancient pine]

and next down the road

you tell me a power washer does the same as a shovel

and which it doesn't

and then you come to say it doesn't matter what the outcome is

[midnight marsh]

I said can

And they can

[midnight marsh]

Which I never said otherwise

[ancient pine]

can a shovel do the same as a power washer?

wash windows?

can It?

[midnight marsh]

I said no

[ancient pine]

there you go

[midnight marsh]

A pressure washer can do what a shovel can tho

[ancient pine]

the outcome isn't the same

[midnight marsh]

And we already established that that analogy wasn’t good and to not be used

[ancient pine]

that's like changing the original topic

from chem and bio weapons making people sick

[midnight marsh]

In which I went back on topic multiple times and you kept going back to the pressure washer

[ancient pine]

to explosives

[ancient pine]

because you kept trying to prove your "power washer point"

[midnight marsh]

No I wasn’t

[ancient pine]

then what the hell are you debating for

[midnight marsh]

I was trying to prove the original point this entire time

[rose cloud]

Where do I update?

[midnight marsh]

Two things can have the same outcome and yet be different

[stable fractal]

#1143822508391411722

[rose cloud]

Where do I update?

[midnight marsh]

Which I’ve said multiple times and we have established that’s the case

[stable fractal]

#🎭┃role-assign

[midnight marsh]

And you keep trying to go back and say this and that. Like it’s done

It’s over

We agree

You’re backpeddling at this point

[rose cloud]

@stable fractal Should I delete this?

[stable fractal]

No

[ancient pine]

didn't I already settle the first point with you

[faint sparrow]

Click it…

[ancient pine]

and so what the hell are you still talking for

[stable fractal]

No

[midnight marsh]

Did you?

[stable fractal]

Am scared

[rose cloud]

@stable fractal Will this file be updated when I download it?

[ancient pine]

did you read

[midnight marsh]

I could ask you the same

[faint sparrow]

Why?

[midnight marsh]

Yes, did you

[stable fractal]

Yes jst download directly

[ancient pine]

I did DID YOU?

[stable fractal]

Don't delete the old file and app

[midnight marsh]

I just said I did, did you

Because I’ve pointed out at least 3 times where you’ve misread what I’ve said

But that’s besides the point

[formal gazelle]

🍿

[rose cloud]

@stable fractal thank you my lady

[stable fractal]

I will f u up on a lvl u don't believe

[faint sparrow]

Guys i got mu cousin ummm

Idk what to call it at this point

[rose cloud]

@stable fractal

[ancient pine]

we've settled this no? DID YOU READ

[rose cloud]

[ancient pine]

do you not understand what "sure" means

[rose cloud]

@stable fractal

[midnight marsh]

So what are you trying to say anymore because it seems to me like you’re just trying to be a hardon

[ancient pine]

the original topic was settled and why the hell are you still talking

[midnight marsh]

We established we agreed

Dude you’re the one who keeps going too tho

[sullen yew]

What going on?

[midnight marsh]

You can’t say that and be an active contributor yourself

That’s contradictory fr

[ancient pine]

your the one who is throwing examples at me to prove the original point

no?

[midnight marsh]

I already said it’s done did I not?

I said it’s over did I not?

[ancient pine]

you've contradicted yourself twice and admitted to it

[midnight marsh]

Where

[sullen yew]

Discord arguments in a nutshell

[midnight marsh]

You’re contradicting yourself right now

[ancient pine]

wanna bet

[midnight marsh]

Like are you done here or do you want to continue

[ancient pine]

I got literally an intire week

I got nothing to worry about

your stubborn ahh can't seem to understand English

[formal gazelle]

This debate is still going wew <,<

[midnight marsh]

So why ask me why I’m still talking when you’re here too

At least make a valid argument that sticks man

[stable fractal]

It got boring after the first arc

[ancient pine]

this

you admit to it

and calling me contradicting?

[stable fractal]

The pressure washing arc was the best

[midnight marsh]

That’s not contradicting though

Yes I called you contradicting

[ancient pine]

you've admitted to it after I called it out to be a contradiction

[midnight marsh]

It wasn’t a contradiction

How so

[ancient pine]

you need to relearn English literature man

[midnight marsh]

I believe you have that backwards

[formal gazelle]

True

[midnight marsh]

The English lexicon isn’t something you’re very well versed in is it

[formal gazelle]

xD

[midnight marsh]

But anyways

[ancient pine]

Ah yes, you need to learn logic first before language

[midnight marsh]

“Why are you still talking” and continues to try to debate it

[barren yoke]

Damn y'all still doing this

[midnight marsh]

That’s not contradicting?

[sullen yew]

[ancient pine]

I'm asking you that question not me

how's that a contradiction

[midnight marsh]

Well if you think about it

[cerulean imp]

[ancient pine]

I got all week man we can continue this all day 24 hours non stop

[midnight marsh]

You can’t ask someone to do something you otherwise wouldn’t do yourself

[sly remnant]

This is fun

[midnight marsh]

I know you got time so do I

[midnight marsh]

You have over 16,000 messages in this discord

[cerulean imp]

Real

[ancient pine]

that question was asked towards you not me

[sly remnant]

I got popcorn if Anyone wants some

[midnight marsh]

Again you cannot ask someone to do something you otherwise wouldn’t do yourself

Are you gonna stop?

No

[green lintel]

Yoo whts up

[ancient pine]

I can will you?

[midnight marsh]

So that’s contradicting what you want in this

If you’re not gonna stop

Why ask someone else to

[midnight marsh]

That’s contradictory

[ancient pine]

your the one throwing points at me

[midnight marsh]

Like darts on a dartboard apparently

[ancient pine]

so will you stop? the point is settled

[midnight marsh]

I should be asking you that

[ancient pine]

this conversation is worthless for both of us

[midnight marsh]

I said it’s done way before you even tried to end this 💀

[ancient pine]

I'm not trying to prove anything as if right now

[midnight marsh]

And then you had the audacity to ask me why you still talking

I could ask you that myself

So are we done

[formal gazelle]

😄

[ancient pine]

you had the audacity to call me out for something you admitted yourself to be

and yes

we are done

[midnight marsh]

I made a mistake not a contradiction

There’s a difference

[midnight marsh]

You actually contradict what you say

There’s a difference

[ancient pine]

I'm not proving anything right now you still are

[midnight marsh]

So leave it?

[ancient pine]

I've stopped the debate

[midnight marsh]

You don’t have to continue

[cerulean imp]

Just stop yapping and it’s done 😭

[ancient pine]

I'm not

[formal gazelle]

[midnight marsh]

Then why you still here talking about it right now

[formal gazelle]

Just enjoy it 😎

[midnight marsh]

If it’s done then stop and don’t reply

[ancient pine]

I'm not talking about the debate

[cerulean imp]

You keep replying 😭

[ancient pine]

I'm just here to chat

[midnight marsh]

Yes

[rose cloud]

Can I play on the test server with my own account?

[ancient pine]

did you get invited

[midnight marsh]

They don’t advise it

[rose cloud]

Yes

[formal gazelle]

Where to get s2?

[ancient pine]

there should be a link in emails

[midnight marsh]

I hear people get potential bans for using your main account for the beta

[formal gazelle]

O

[rose cloud]

@midnight marsh thanks

[formal gazelle]

<.<

[ancient pine]

official release accounts and beta accounts are different I think

when s1 official came out

people were advised not to use the beta testing accounts

[midnight marsh]

Yeah but what I was told that people who use their actual accounts can receive a ban if they use it on the beta

[ancient pine]

not sure why

but most people got banned for some reason

[ancient pine]

it's the same thing around no idea why

[stable fractal]

That's cap tho

[ancient pine]

#🎮┃game-news

[stable fractal]

Bcz u literally can't

[ancient pine]

scroll a long way up

[stable fractal]

Unless u mean the same email

[ancient pine]

they tell you not to use beta testing account

for official

[midnight marsh]

I heard it from a video so

[stable fractal]

I use the same email personally

[ancient pine]

it's not a 100 percent ban it just happens

[formal gazelle]

So Is it safe to use your main acc or nah?

[stable fractal]

@acoustic mountain nah tf? It days I said a banned word

If they ban am gonna f em up ez

[ancient pine]

nah

think about it

[formal gazelle]

Hmm 🤔

[acoustic mountain]

Lol what

[midnight marsh]

It’s the letters @stable fractal

[ancient pine]

your main from official has s1 stuff

[stable fractal]

Lmao

[ancient pine]

and you get the beta s2 stuff

[stable fractal]

They hate me

[midnight marsh]

I got automod for saying o c

[stable fractal]

Alr thanks

[ancient pine]

it's kind of crossing each other on beta and official

[stable fractal]

#1154365377594277908

[midnight marsh]

Doesn’t make sense why that’s automod but yeah

[stable fractal]

You wont keep s2 beta stuff

It will be all wiped at the end

[ancient pine]

I'm saying like you play in beta and come back to official

[stable fractal]

Alot of words r banned in this server that make zero sense

[formal gazelle]

Ooo

[midnight marsh]

Probably because it’s a tencent owned game

[stable fractal]

For example there is the word

[stable fractal]

Lets be aware this is a newish server with newish game and they want to solidify they’re community before they grow

Dead

[ancient pine]

so it's like bring beta loot into official unlaunched

[stable fractal]

Btw 26 days til port, I alr know best key to buy(its 200k but has electronic safe and a gun on the wall)

But not written like this

[ancient pine]

back then the terms hell, butt and noob were a banned word

[midnight marsh]

How do you know it’s October 26th tho

[stable fractal]

The gun is occasional

[ancient pine]

I personally asked the ban lift on hell

[stable fractal]

Ouch

[stable fractal]

I've always found it on lockdown , only use keys on lockdown tbh (opened 3 time)

[ancient pine]

automod was so bad, it modded the word butterfly cause it had butt

[stable fractal]

Hell even the word but was banned at some point lmao

[stable fractal]

Meanwhile my server with the most lethal automod that even lower level staff can’t say certain phrases or words

[ancient pine]

the automod is alright now but back in beta testing server times it was annoying

1 in every 4 messages was deleted because of autmod

[formal gazelle]

Hehehe butt -^-

[ancient pine]

for a fury server id expect there to be no limitations

[stable fractal]

F

[ancient pine]

y is fury a banned word

bi

gay

huh

automod got some new banned words

[midnight marsh]

😔

[stable fractal]

My server has limitations as we have both minors and non furries in the chat, we’re furries not god damn monsters

[ancient pine]

furries monster id consider them the same thing

[stable fractal]

I half agree with you

[midnight marsh]

I think that whole furrie thing is weird

[ancient pine]

hell I used to be in anti fury groups and went in fury cons in body armor and made fun of em

[stable fractal]

Not all furries are as bad as people make them to be

Majority are yes

But we actively try and get rid of them

So internal friendly fire

[ancient pine]

isn't that kind of ironic

furries getting rid of furries

although I'd love to see that

[midnight marsh]

It’s not like I “hate” them

[stable fractal]

We don’t consider them furries at that point we consider them in some cases worthless people

[midnight marsh]

It’s just a lot of them I met are really weird asf

[ancient pine]

wellll you couldn't say you love em

[formal gazelle]

"Neutral "

[midnight marsh]

It’s borderline beastiality

[ancient pine]

what ordinary human being gets in a fury suit and acts like a lunatic

[midnight marsh]

It’s just weird

[stable fractal]

I agree the most youve meet are the bad toxic ones

[stable fractal]

Those those are furries I personally hate

[ancient pine]

what are you

[stable fractal]

One of the actual decent calm chill ones

[midnight marsh]

Like I don’t have a problem with them, it’s just when you make it weird I’m not gonna like it

[stable fractal]

Agreed

[ancient pine]

would be super ironic if the afd recruited a fury

[ancient pine]

would you consider a 30 yr old man in a fur suit howling at night weird

[stable fractal]

I was apart of that division actual

LMFAOOO

[ancient pine]

wait what

[midnight marsh]

Kinda not really

It’s a bit weird yeah but nothing crazy

[stable fractal]

I was an afd and used to raid servers

[midnight marsh]

You know what I’m referring to when I say make it weird

[stable fractal]

Majority of furries are actually 15ish and around 20 those past 23 are considered weird ones but there is expections

[crystal dawn]

Helloo

[ancient pine]

My anti fury division used to have us go in actual fury cons and just harass most of the weirdos

[ancient pine]

yeah like teens, sure it'd be just like a hobby and playful thing

[stable fractal]

I agree with them mocking the cringy adult furries is good

[ancient pine]

but a full grown man

it's kind of like a pedo

[stable fractal]

Thats what my server is for, supporting the teenage ones who do it as a hobby

We dont allow the cringe adults in

[ancient pine]

the afd is fine with teens and kids playing like fury and getting in fursuits and stuff but like the weird stuff happens when you got a group of kids around a grown man in a fur suit

that's the whole reason why this fury hatred thing happened

[stable fractal]

Hence why we prevent adults depending on how they behave around the minors in my server

If we catch an adult being weird around one of the minors we ban with out question

[ancient pine]

back in 2019 this wasn't even considered weird it's only after those pedos and lunatics did it

[midnight marsh]

The nsfw stuff is what makes it weird

[stable fractal]

when yo don’t sed other strikers or emojis

[midnight marsh]

Like if you’re just goofing off that’s whatever idc

[ancient pine]

you giving me flashbacks

[stable fractal]

[midnight marsh]

It’s actual borderline beastiality

[stable fractal]

OH GOD DONT REMIND ME

I had to ban SO MANY PROPLE FROM MY SERVER AND INCRESS AUTOMOD BC OF IT

we got raided by other furries

[ancient pine]

used to wear this into fury cons with 6 others and harrass the weirdos

[stable fractal]

I still play airsoft actually and have my air soft gear

[ancient pine]

by weirdos we classify them as the adults crawling on the floor and howling like animals