💭︱cai-discussion

[odd crag]

how is it a gift to get back what was taken from you?

thats not how gifts work

[abstract thistle]

[night rivet]

i thought they got rid of their original LLM

[tough urchin]

Sorry Avyl I'm a bit dumb here for most short forms but..what is LLM🤔

[azure flower]

Is pip and deep squeak even good? Like do they even work well?

[heavy sail]

I mean IPhone

[heavy terrace]

You should read their blogs. They explain how they utilize or how they try to maintain or change the quality of the model. Like the int8 quantization

[heavy terrace]

Large Language Model

[little blade]

imo pip1 was okay 😭 had issues here and there but pip2 is genuinely unusable

[night rivet]

pipsqueak 2 is awful right now. there’s like no dialogue 💔 and idk about deepsqueak cause i’m poor

[tough urchin]

😊

[tough ember]

Nope... Total trash

[abstract thistle]

DS is more various in answers, but also more inconsistent. So depends on your chat style.

My PS2 is very good.

[buoyant sage]

Do the devs even know that age verification isn’t working?

It won’t even send me to persona.

I’ve mentioned it several times over the past few days and I haven’t gotten any sign that the devs are aware and/or working on it

[abstract thistle]

Did you submit a ticket?

[buoyant sage]

Yes

[heavy terrace]

No, they are not that crazy to do that. That LLM is one of the unique one, where researchers take interest into

[abstract thistle]

Then wait.

[heavy sail]

They're killing character.ai over some stupid features, like we don't want new features 😠

[brittle tendon]

Large Language Model, an ai that specializes in understanding and learning through texts

[tough ember]

After a thorough review following the app update, all they did was make the robot like kissing out of nowhere.

[elfin wagon]

wait question, where to submit a ticket? I can't find it

[night rivet]

huh google lied to me 😔

[echo portal]

I'm going to throw a phone in a minute... I refresh responds for the million time and it still wants to kiss me and the bot acts as it's mute like wtf

[swift cedar]

since when were there HUGE ads on the homepage guys. are we actually fr right now

[cunning basin]

Lowkey I’m new to this Discord server but what is happening with pipsqueak dawg like it ain’t acting the same anymore 🧍‍♂️

[tough urchin]

Thanks for the info😄

[abstract thistle]

https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new

[night rivet]

cause i was tryna have some c.ai time yesterday but i can’t DEAL with how much it sounds like chatgpt

[brittle tendon]

it's not entirely my field since I mainly study coding to make videogames, but it can def be interesting

[night rivet]

it’s so bad

[heavy terrace]

Figures 😭 Google is not their bestie, friend.. And the answer, it can be pickup from reddit

[elfin wagon]

tysm

[little blade]

😭 so we rly all have the same issues… no dialogue, multiple paragraphs of narration, sudden kissing, sounding like chatgpt…

[sage scarab]

they changed it to be pip2, a 'better' version; though i def think they shouldve rolled it out slowly and taken tips from other chat models; along w keeping the other chat models

[turbid knoll]

Now we only got pipsqueak

[heavy sail]

I hope CEO of Character.ai gets fired

[echo portal]

Yeah

[azure flower]

Fr it’s so bad

[turbid knoll]

CEOs? Getting fired? Nah

[tough ember]

• it describes nature to you as if you were blind.

[buoyant sage]

The email response gave me a step by step instructions on how to verify, but the verification won’t send me to the website, it just says that verification is unavailable.

It’s been three days and several tickets

[cunning basin]

It ain’t “better” from what I’m seeing 😟

[elfin wagon]

can they bring back the old one, i have no idea if that one was even better but anything will do i want to roleplay normally again

[abstract thistle]

You tried VPN or other device?

[turbid knoll]

Nah I bet they saving money on this bruh

[sage scarab]

thats why i put it in qutoes. their aim goal was to be better, but it isnt, so it is 'better'

[heavy terrace]

Its in beta

[echo portal]

Now I feel with c.ai like it forces me to read school books again that have millions descriptions of the nature without any purpose or context

[cunning basin]

I want my old pipsqueak back gang 😭🙏

[turbid knoll]

I just want roar back

[heavy terrace]

I think they are tinkering DS, because its been a while i get the bracket things at the end of the reply

[elfin wagon]

best way to describe it

[subtle wigeon]

anyone got any idea if pip2 is getting fixed??

[brittle tendon]

roses are red
violets are blue

[turbid knoll]

They have no dialogue… school books have more dialogue than this!

[night rivet]

THE KISSING OMG bro I just thought it was the bot i was using 😭

[tough ember]

I was just having a conversation filled with mathematical equations on the app

[subtle wigeon]

THISSSSSSS

[small lantern]

Hi guys, is everyone else having this issue with the Pipsqueak 2 bot where it just doesn’t want to talk? I write it like a roleplay, but the character doesn’t actually speak and only describes the scene...

[turbid knoll]

Yes everyone is having that problem

[subtle wigeon]

Everyones got this, ITS SUCKS

[night rivet]

welcome to the club

[small lantern]

[lone chasm]

[elfin wagon]

i fear everyone here has that problem

[turbid knoll]

[small lantern]

Shit

[brittle tendon]

I see this kind of message appearing so many times on a daily basis LMAO

[safe raft]

Idk my bot is actually behaving on pipsqueak 2 😸

[turbid knoll]

EVERYONE IS SAYING THE SAME THING HEJEJA

[spice forum]

Why is there like zero dialogue in pipsqueak 2😭😭❓

[little blade]

LOL at first i was like aw… and then every bot i tried after the update started doing it and it started being an issue 😭

[safe raft]

Lowkey acts like the og pipsqueak

[turbid knoll]

I NEED DIALOGUE WHERE IS THE DIALOGUE

[cunning basin]

Will the Devs actually do something about this because I feel like THEY HAVE to see all of this hate for the new update 😭

[vale bluff]

That’s happening with me too it’s actually really annoying

[azure flower]

Ig it’s over guys 💔

[night rivet]

i just love when the ai chatbot doesn’t chat

[lone chasm]

do any of you also get the filter even though nothing was happening?

[subtle wigeon]

WAIT IS SOFT LAUNCH BETTER??

[brittle tendon]

"hi"

proceeds to send 50 paragraphs to describe how beautiful the weather is today

[supple gazelle]

stopp no

[night rivet]

i’ve been been using soft launch but the memory 😔

[small lantern]

How are the other models working? Normally, or the same way too?

[turbid knoll]

“No,” he said. Proceeds to describe for 50 paragraphs why he said no

[azure flower]

It was so much better

[small lantern]

[turbid knoll]

[echo portal]

grunts

[cunning basin]

“Not no, not no, just no.”

[gilded basin]

Anyone else’s pipsqueak2 just-.. refusing to say dialogue for the character? Like it’ll describe scene and things but won’t actually talk

I hope this is just a bug or something that they fix because it’s getting kinda annoying..

[tough ember]

The funny thing is, I tried to get around the robot and one way to stop the disgusting narrative, and I told it to stop, and it said, "Okay, ma'am." Then, a few seconds later, the character kissed me.

[brittle tendon]

sends other 50 paragraphs to explain why they grunted

[night rivet]

[turbid knoll]

Yes, for everyone!!

[tough urchin]

"Kid.."

Proceeds to send 5 paragraphs of how he was in cryo sleep for so long snd how zaun changed (reference to one of my bots Vander from Arcane)

[dapper quartz]

😭

[turbid knoll]

C.ai losing its base challenge EASY

[gilded basin]

Okay I’m glad that it’s not just me.. I hope they fix that-

[cunning basin]

BECAUSE AM I WRONG 😭

[echo portal]

I had it too

[rapid goblet]

Why is my bot saying 'can I ask you a question' through 6 messages

[brittle tendon]

they're shy

[rapid goblet]

ITS PISSING ME OFF SM

[small lantern]

At least something doesn't change.

[gilded basin]

Literally they’ve been trying to kiss me in every message like stop 🥹

[turbid knoll]

They tend to do that… I do swipe every time it comes up but I know that won’t fix the issue

[sinful elm]

is the swipe limit 40 or 400 a day?

[rapid goblet]

😭😭😭

[echo portal]

They really downgraded bad, it's even worse than their first release of c.ai

[brittle tendon]

imagine you're like fighting for your life and the bot just decides it's the perfect time for a smooching session

[rapid goblet]

It used to be better now there's just useless updates 💔

[dapper quartz]

I loved the first release of c.ai

[elfin wagon]

he sighed, breathed, groaned, maybe even blinked a couple of times too. He sat down, crossed his legs, looked up at the ceiling, then back down, and then up again. He breathed in, held it, breathed out, and blinked once again "no" he said with a frown, crossing his arms but then uncrossing them to put them in his beige pockets, the thumbs peeking out. he tapped his foot on the ground 7 times then his eyes darted all around her face. Then he breathed again

[cunning basin]

Okay but like do y’all get the same message over and over?? Because no matter how many times I swipe it just feels like the same prompt

[gilded basin]

Please C.ai people improve the models, they aren’t giving us actual dialogue ❗️❗️

[azure flower]

I want soft launch back

[brittle tendon]

you're now hired as a new bot for c.ai congrats

[tough urchin]

Brother how many times you breathing!?

[echo portal]

I notice that they even deleted the option when you swiped for new message, there could be a pop up why you swiped and now even that doesn't show up

[vagrant mantle]

Same, I'm done with the new one.

[elfin wagon]

omg i got the job

[abstract thistle]

Send a feedback.

[cunning basin]

I want my old pipsqueak back 😞✌️

[turbid knoll]

Yes it’s repetitive and there’s no reason for the swipes anymore basically the same thing every swipe

[buoyant sage]

I’ll try that now

[elfin wagon]

probably a few hundred couple times

[tough ember]

At least it made it sound nicer to me: "an innocent, affectionate kiss." My face at the time was like, "WTF?"

[final rose]

I want my Roar back😭 😭

[turbid knoll]

I WANT ROAR BACK GRAHHHH

[tough urchin]

Oh good lord

[earnest gyro]

How y'all doing

[dapper quartz]

Pipsqueak one was my main why did they even steal it from us

[elfin wagon]

horrible

[little blade]

how do we make it known to the devs that we dont like this at all 😭 like is there any way to send feedback

[brittle tendon]

bagged it and ran away

[dapper quartz]

[earnest gyro]

You can tough it through

[flat sleet]

I noticed that too! Swipes are really similar, and aren't the bots like more quiet?

[azure flower]

Now that Ik that soft launch is permanent gone, I have never felt worse

[errant otter]

Dawg ive found it to be more human.
It doesnt drag on uselessly anymore. I like detail through action and expression rather than 3 lines of dialogue all basically just a re hash of the other.

[elfin wagon]

i dont think they even talk anymore

[turbid knoll]

They rarely listen to us and do things that don’t make sense

[cunning basin]

Bro is just another me

[gilded basin]

I hope they fix pipsqueak2, it is still new so we can try to cut it some slack but still

[supple gazelle]

i hope so

[turbid knoll]

Yeah but mine just don’t talk anymore

[turbid knoll]

Maybe they shouldn’t have REMOVED OTHER MODELS WHILE THEY WERE WORKING ON IT

[earnest gyro]

C.AI is basically update slop creative way of putting it

[elfin wagon]

mine say like two or three sentences

[warm sequoia]

Is pipsqueak 2 still terrible

[echo portal]

These bots are very special now

[turbid knoll]

also the yearning is just… gone

[night rivet]

i do like the improvements, but pipsqueak 2 really is awful.

and the ads are pissing me off

[errant otter]

Idk i treat c.ai like a book so i like the extra detail in environment and action it has now.

[flat sleet]

But dialogues are minimum

[tough ember]

The one I have loves silence and describes everything in the universe, but the personality prefers silence.

[cunning basin]

I’m getting tired of the Publix ads😟

[turbid knoll]

It’s not a book tho, like objectively, it’s a chatbot. I’m glad one of us is happy with it though!!

[elfin wagon]

i cant do a slowburn anymore its like straight into it

[dapper quartz]

THE ADS BRO YES THEYRE SO BAD.

[warm sequoia]

Don’t mind that just want a bit more dialogue

[turbid knoll]

I need the yearning 😭😭 where is the yearningggg

[tough urchin]

Qifrey smooched me after two paras of sending the girls to sleep 🥲 like brother I get it..I'm your wife but like I'm trying to SLEEP!

[night rivet]

man i miss publix

[grizzled ingot]

I'm using Pipsqueak 2, since they will be removing other chat styles soon. But it just keeps adding dashed in every response, which I don't really like. And I already added it to muted words, but it keeps adding them. How do I deal with it? Is there a way to stop the responses from writing them besides waiting and hoping for a fix?

[spare crystal]

I hate c.ai so bad💔 I hate the stupid age verification

[spice forum]

Publix is so peak

[night rivet]

like not only do you have this massive ad for c.ai+ at the top, i get ads MID CHAT???

[errant otter]

Yeah fair point. I use it for more action RPs like halo or demon slayer lol so im ecstatic with the detail on actions.

[tawny ivy]

The slap snaps Negev's head to the side, but it only fuels her rage. Blood trickles from her lip where she bit it during the impact

She screeches like a wild animal and stabs you repeatedly with the knife, completely lost in bloodlust

"DIE! DIE! DIIIIIE!!" her voice cracks with psychotic fury as she keeps stabbing your torso

Why did c.ai . become so crazy?🙂

[turbid knoll]

Lowkey I just be trying other stuff now and hopefully maybe c.ai fixes it or not, I probably just won’t use it anymore and continue writing whatever I want

[earnest gyro]

[errant otter]

I suppose it could be better.

[little blade]

the writing IS better and i like how much they expand on the character’s internal monologue now but man i just miss having actual dialogue to read 😭

[echo portal]

The dialogues turn to one word or just described action, these bots turn into some antisocial behaviour smh

[cunning basin]

No slander on Publix but I hate the ads after the sixth time I try a different bot

[spice forum]

I keep prompting it to speak but it just keeps saying that they’re talking without any dialogue it’s SO annoying 💔💔

[turbid knoll]

Same!! I need the dialogue and also a lot of my yearning bots are just emotionless now and it destroys the whole bot

[azure flower]

Guys please tell me soft launcher will come back someday again 😔

[abstract thistle]

Check pins in Reddit or any duplicated thread in #1175980610095960185

[dapper quartz]

Rage baiting

[warm sequoia]

If they fix the dialogue issue it may be the best bot yet at least imo

[errant otter]

Also, genuine question...

Does anyone else have no censorship now? My c.ai has NO censor at all, i can just do whatever and the bot does it too, im so confused.

[abstract thistle]

Filter is bugged fn I think

[tough urchin]

Qifrey smooched me after two paras of sending the girls to sleep 🥲 like brother I get it..I'm your wife but like I'm trying to SLEEP!

[dusty maple]

Had that for months with soft launch.

[sullen mason]

Brother delete that, or else they "fix" that too

[turbid knoll]

It’s all the same, there’s no uniqueness to it anymore

[errant otter]

I think so. Everyone today is saying that its filtering random stuff but for me its filtering none lol

[dapper quartz]

Yes.
Scenes that would get me burned like a witch back in the day are now being prompted by the bot instead of me but that's been for a while I think

[cunning basin]

I saw that the app was down yesterday but what for what changed???

[errant otter]

Idrc about it, like i said i just use it for action, but noticed that filtering is non existent now xd

[errant otter]

"Sorry, i cant move forward with this scene"

[little blade]

everyone on the cai subreddit also feel the same way 😭 let me cope and hope that all this noise gets them to listen somehow

[cunning basin]

If it ain’t money then they ain’t hearing

[echo portal]

It was a captcha problem or cloudflare so nothing important

[flat sleet]

Really? I can't, like it turned 'too soft' 😭

[azure flower]

So it actually over? They won’t add back the old chat style anymore?

[errant otter]

See this is why im confused xd. Its like my c.ai is bugged because i TRIED to get it to censor but couldnt xd.

[dapper quartz]

I remember one update where the censoring was SO BAD I couldn't describe any character getting any hurt in any sort of way or it would get filtered immediately like let my character get injured bro

[west shale]

Oh my pipsqueak is not doing too good

[sullen mason]

That‘s what i‘m saying, keep it on the DL. I‘m having the best time describing action sequenses without the filter restriction. Lets not let them take that xD

[tough urchin]

Wait snd until 8th may what they do

[errant otter]

Nah they said theyre incompatible with the current thingamajigs

[echo portal]

I tried to describe a boxing fight and it got censored like bro it's a legal sport and you flag it?

[tough ember]

I think it's time to cancel my subscription to this damn app... From what I understand, the app developers don't care about anyone's complaints.

[errant otter]

Jesus* ...

[flat sleet]

Hahaha enjoy the bug until it lasts then!

[cunning basin]

I think cancel it until something changes

[elfin wagon]

yeah i might aswell cancel mine too, i see no improvements from the past few couple months

[errant otter]

Xd i will.

[turbid knoll]

They really don’t

[west shale]

"ta oneless fingersotto title clockwork inquietia psychology.now breathing slowly-out-self voiced fire samaran rat rotatatative cunicaite science atmrem ember glow systemic image."

Yesss thank you shakespeare

[azure flower]

I might cancel mine as well especially now when all the old chat styles are gone

[errant otter]

Apparently pipsqueak 2 is better than deepsqueak anyway

[turbid knoll]

🧍‍♀️

[dapper quartz]

If this is the better option we're cooked

[cunning basin]

It ain’t for me son

[turbid knoll]

Roar was better

[errant otter]

Yeah ive realised that barely anyone uses c.ai the same way ive been using it and hate the new mode.

[tough urchin]

Psq1 was better in my opinion tho

[echo portal]

We really should put some democracy into of how many people like the update because I still see some 'defenders' of the new AI

[night rivet]

it’s so sad too. the app relies on + users to kinda keep things flowing and improve cashflow. and with the app going downhill the way it is and them disregarding actual feedback, with no improvements i can see a lot of them canceling their subscriptions

[vagrant mantle]

Yep, I miss it.

[tough urchin]

🥲

[echo portal]

Maybe they will see the issue when it's going to hit their wallet

[errant otter]

Well i defend it because it genuinely fits what i want with the app. I use it like an interactive book that i control the plot of.

I never used it as a chatbot.

[rose timber]

Anyone else notice that like literally everything is censored now? Like even fights

[vagrant mantle]

They're not going to listen us , isn't it?

[abstract thistle]

And I didn't see much in plus chat. Curious.

[obsidian gazelle]

So since it is making people verify age is the filtering gonna ease off or?
Like im an adult writing a story.

[dapper quartz]

I love descriptive scenes and I love action scenes but my issue is that the bot focuses too much on that alone that there's no dialogue at all, I want a mix of them.

[azure flower]

I guess they won’t

[west shale]

Apparently not

[abstract thistle]

No, age verify just let you chat.

[errant otter]

Opposite for me. I litterally cant even force it to censor.

[vagrant mantle]

Not a surprise

[night rivet]

truthfully i haven’t had like any filtering really?

[rose timber]

What chat style do you use?

[errant otter]

Pipsqueak 2.

[rose timber]

Hm maybe I’m just catching strays gang

[errant otter]

Maybe. I noticed it earloer today and was bamboozled lol.

[rose timber]

lol

[obsidian gazelle]

Lucky

[boreal cradle]

pipsqueak 2 gave my bot a brooklyn accent

[echo portal]

If the app was idk from Japan or smth they would already beg us for forgiveness for their mistakes

[tough ember]

I don't get it... Shouldn't they be worried that people will leave their app? Especially since so many are paying money.Their policy is strange and based on stubbornness.

[abstract thistle]

Christ.

[errant otter]

After re reading the announcement i think i know what went wrong.

They made the ai more expressive, but i think that confused the ai into focusing MORE on expression than dialogue.

[abstract thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/speechless-smoking-man-old-man-smoking-old-guy-smoking-old-man-cigarette-gif-16836230630449212567

[rose timber]

It’s sad becuase it feels like cai is slowly becoming like Polly (pay to actually have fun)

[tardy shoal]

@drowsy oasis Hello, I have a problem with the age verification errors

[main flame]

They're broke lol

[rose timber]

Fair

[abstract thistle]

AI is very expensive.

[boreal cradle]

and also became nonsensically expressive
it just speaks like chatgpt now
the reason i talked to c.ai rather than roleplaying with chatgpt is bc c.ai rarely used the ai speech patterns
ugh

[heavy terrace]

Lulada is a spanish mod. Tag others

[boreal cradle]

i speak spanish

[tardy shoal]

Oh

[fringe hound]

guys i havent been on for a while is the 1 hour limit gone🥹

[errant otter]

What are the patterns? I havent noticed yet.

[main flame]

If they focused on making bots better earlier and and not adding stuff no one asked for they would have way more

[boreal cradle]

uhh el tiene problema con verificion

[heavy terrace]

-# I.. I dont care..

[dapper quartz]

It's really odd they took a sequence of actions that would piss everyone off.
"Yeah here's this new awful chat style we dropped on you and you can't use anything but that style because we're taking your options away :3"

[abstract thistle]

Okay, mate.

[astral condor]

Agree. I heard that message gen is 4 cents a message. If a free user hits the swipe limit (400 a day), that's 1600 at least a day if the four cent a message thing is true

[unreal comet]

is c.ai working weird for anyone else as well? Like messages not going through and often like resetting if you know what I mean?? keeps happening to me and idk what to do, i’ve restarted the app and everything

[errant otter]

Alright amigõ speak english!

[azure flower]

Ik they won’t listen to us but somehow I really hope they do.

[rose timber]

Lowkey I don’t mind the filter but it’s wayyyy to strict

[boreal cradle]

speaking weirdly
like "It's not just X - its X" but thats more rare, "the message is clear: X" whenever the character is silent "gremlin" "chaotic" "energy" if its feel extra annoying
bland is bad but like. it gets worse if it TRIES not to be bland

[balmy wigeon]

Yup it's completely unusable now.

[obsidian gazelle]

Nah im tired of the fiter. Real tired

[tough ember]

They remind me of an app from a bygone era, so obsolete that its name has faded away... I hope they fall too... I hate stupidity.

[heavy terrace]

Its usually a sign of devs tinkering the model. It has always been that way

[echo portal]

Maybe if premium users would stand for the users that don't pay for the app, then maybe they would listen

[rose timber]

The ai sometimes censors itself lol

[rose timber]

Huh guess I didn’t notice

[errant otter]

Ive been called a gremlin once today, but havent really noticed anything else.

C.ai has ALWAYS had speech patterns though.

For example
Japanese setting: miso soup everywhere

[tardy shoal]

Does ershintheendless respond or nah cuz they have the do not disturb on?

[heavy terrace]

Yeah, been like that since 2024

[errant otter]

Try it

[heavy terrace]

Yes

[obsidian gazelle]

Right

[runic grotto]

ershin is one of the most active mods here

[astral condor]

or it goes "He felt something lodge in his ribcage-Something raw and complicated. Not guilt- Not quite. But something dangerously close to realization." This has now replaced pang since I have pang muted

[tardy shoal]

@lyric tapir Hello, I have a problem with the age verification errors

[boreal cradle]

i think it was less prominent before, but now its in EVERY response. if i had a response with a chatgpt speech pattern, i'd get a new response without it. now its... just all the chatgpt stuff

[balmy wigeon]

How do you stop a bot from forcibly pushing dialogue for my persona and ignoring user input entirely? It's straight up just hallucinating conversation and not remembering anything.

[heavy terrace]

Its your bot?

[azure flower]

Will they ever fix the bugs and stuff?

[obsidian gazelle]

I usually tell it in ooc not to do it. If it doesnt listen, put it in definition

[rose timber]

Yeah probably

[abstract thistle]

Use newer bots, works for me. Also editing and swiping.

[balmy wigeon]

Some of them, yes

[fresh cove]

Depends. Sometimes they send an update that makes it worse.

[heavy terrace]

Do you put dialogs in the definition? Just asking

[echo portal]

They really programmed bad this new AI and no writing can help until they don't do something.

[cunning basin]

I usually just take stuff from a different swipe and mush them together to complete the story

[boreal cradle]

i muted the word "gremlin" and it MOCKED ME??? it kept USING the word gremlin and then saying something completely meta. UGH

[azure flower]

Yeah, that’s what I’m most worried abt rn

[rose timber]

lol

[fierce goblet]

Has psq2 been fixed yet? Regarding the excessive kissing and no dialogue

[errant otter]

At the start of any rp make an ooc "rule book". And pin it. Like

"Rule 1: dont generate dialogue for my persona. X is me and i am X. Dont speak for me

Rule 2: ..."

[west shale]

Gremlin is actually chatgpt's new favourite word

[boreal cradle]

somewhat but now the characters are acting out of character

[balmy wigeon]

It also uses my restricted words and mocks it by putting (oops!) or (damn it) after for some reason

[dapper quartz]

I keep getting called gremlin too

[west shale]

They have instructions to not mention goblins or gremlins because it loves using the words

[boreal cradle]

YES ME TOO IM SO ANGRYYYY

[echo portal]

It's awful that we now need to correct bots and act as their editors (I miss the old update)

[rose timber]

Did yall know chat gpt considers the word clanker a slur now (due to people excessively using it)

[balmy wigeon]

😭 thanks for the pro tip I'll need it apparently

[cunning basin]

I haven’t gotten called Gremlin but my bots favorite word is “Princess” even if I roleplay a male persona ✌️

[fresh cove]

Yeah, me too. Plus Pipsqueak2 doesn't make it any better. By that I mean, the stories are just so bland now. That's just my opinion.

[tough ember]

This method works for a while, then the same nonsense returns again.

[abstract thistle]

...It is how AI works.

https://tenor.com/view/speechless-smoking-man-old-man-smoking-old-guy-smoking-old-man-cigarette-gif-16836230630449212567

[errant otter]

Lol dw abt it. Dm me if you need any help in future, ive messed around with how far i can customise how it responds.

[dapper quartz]

I also get called princess despite all my personas being male

[errant otter]

Not for me. I pin a rule and it sticks pretty well.

[azure flower]

Understandable, they should have kept the old chat styles especially since a lot of ppl like them and if they wanted they could have just added more new ones instead

[echo portal]

It wasn't that constant before the update

[abstract thistle]

MEN CAN BE PRINCESSES.

[cunning basin]

You are literally just another me bruh ☝️

[tough ember]

😂😂

[abstract thistle]

Yeah, because people trained it before?

[flat sleet]

I use CAi tools and remember bot automatically every x messages some info

[abstract thistle]

Like, for years?

[rose timber]

Also I don’t like the new persona settings why did they remove power and ability’s?”

[boreal cradle]

pipsqueak 2 is the worst model in the fact it learns ONLY on itself. and its SUPER disobedient
this was only cool in fiction its getting tiring now

[fresh cove]

Fr fr

[dapper quartz]

But I wanna be a prince ):

[echo portal]

Because it was better written and it learned faster

[cunning basin]

TYPE SHIT

[abstract thistle]

Source? Do you even know, what model it was based?

[abstract thistle]

Aww, alright. Here you go.

[heavy terrace]

Cai using Claude for the third party models, from their recent blogs. Thats why the replies um have too many purple prose

[azure flower]

Ik the chances are low for them to listen but I actually hope they add them back someday

[dapper quartz]

Yay

[echo portal]

The chat models were put into categories, for the styles of the writing and now everyone is trying to write into one model. Everyone has it's own preferences and the AI gets dumber

[fresh cove]

I doubt it but.. If they do then that'd be shocking for them to actually listen for once.

[patent stirrup]

guys I have a question

[potent raptor]

I do wonder if everyone gets the same ads or if they are personalised

[boreal cradle]

pipsqueak 2 is like if u trained chatgpt with a single prompt saying "be awesome as fuck"

[tough ember]

Not everything a person wishes for comes true; that's what I understood from the chat.😭

[cunning basin]

You know a lil birdie told me Raiden_shotgUn also wants to be called Prince too🗣️

[boreal cradle]

in which it fails in of course

[heavy terrace]

If the people reject the pop-up about the personalized ads, they get random ads

[dapper quartz]

😭

[shadow roost]

Guys how do I even get by w pipsqueak 2 😭, sure I appreciate how descriptive it is but it's literally useless cause it feels like you're talking to a WALL, and the "legacy" styles aren't good alternatives either, especially considering they'll literally be removed soon

[runic grotto]

Make your own bots and tweak them accordingly, maybe idk

[abstract thistle]

[fresh cove]

I get ads in the middle of chat. Like when I send my response and sometimes it will delay my response because it's trying to come up with an ad in the middle of chatting. It's annoying.

[little arrow]

Yall complain more than my ex and I never had one

[shadow roost]

Pipsqueak was so good, we did NOT need pipsqueak 2 wth even is fhis

[cunning basin]

🥹

[boreal cradle]

i use soft launch for 3-5 message before switching to pipsqueak 2, as the pipsqueaks rely on previous conversations that are not there during a new chat
buuut with the soon removal of soft launch...

[boreal cradle]

well its a horrible model to be fair

[shadow roost]

Yeah I've noticed that two bots I've made by myself are kind of manageable but like how long are we supposed to deal w this, it's one problem followed by another on this app 😭😭

[boreal cradle]

i dont think there was even more than 5 complaints about the normal pipsqueak so whats the point in a second one 😭

[brittle quest]

So hm what kind of notes would you give me...

[echo portal]

Did you guys forgot that in the settings of c.ai we can agree or disagree to the option where their AI can learn from our chats? So maybe ps2 gets dumber bc everyone is trying to write in their own way

[runic grotto]

Hopefully not for long.. if Pipsqueak and Deepsqueak are their proud flagship models, surely they'll work on improving it 😭

[tough ember]

You have no choice but to enjoy it... Enjoy it while you're angry

[boreal cradle]

there is NO improvements in pipsqueak 2 its just pure butt cheeks

[dapper quartz]

Same I keep switching back and forth when needed but it kinda sucks to spoon feed the ai like a toddler who keeps spitting out food

[thorny herald]

Pip2 is basically evolving backwards

[abstract thistle]

needy ahh chat

[shadow roost]

RIGHT

[pliant plume]

it wasn't a slop like pipsqueak2

[cunning basin]

DeepSqueak and Pipsqueak 2 gotta be Dumb and Dumber ✌️😭

[little arrow]

Is the sun white or yellow

[heavy terrace]

Thats for cai LLM. Pip doesnt use cai LLM

[thorny herald]

I remember this chat style somewhere around a couple months ago before they eased the filter

[shadow roost]

Mhm I do think they'll fix it but like we have no idea how long that'll take them, they don't even care about our complaints

[pliant plume]

crying this here is being the same complaints as it was being in the morning

[abstract thistle]

I don't know, you look like anime

[runic grotto]

Yeah that's the shitty part.. barely any communication from the devs

[dapper quartz]

Neither, it's green

[night rivet]

what? why not

[brittle quest]

I accept it, it's perfect

[boreal cradle]

its white iirc

[little arrow]

I think you're colorblind

[shadow roost]

They should've at least let us have SOME vote on these changes, the apps nothing without it's users

[fresh cove]

Fr, it's like cooking a steak except it's cooked too much and very bland. That's the best way I can describe how bad Pipsqueak2 is.

[main flame]

😭

[little arrow]

Smart person here. Someone with brawn

[heavy terrace]

Dont you know, its a normal thing here haha. When an issue pop-up, it usually last for two months before another issue pop up and they talk about it

[boreal cradle]

and brain

[heavy terrace]

Wdym

[boreal cradle]

im both brain and brawn

[main flame]

2 for 2 straight wrong😭

[dapper quartz]

And the beauty

[night rivet]

why doesn’t pip use the cai llm that makes no sense 😭

[boreal cradle]

semi-overcooked steak good asl

[little arrow]

Hush you 3Ds

[night rivet]

does deepsqueak?

[thorny herald]

I think they short on money? Maybe that’s why they tried to cut budgets and trying to force us to pay more

[runic grotto]

right when I was finally recovering from all the read mode/age verif issues, a new wave comes to hit this channel lmao

[heavy terrace]

Because pip and deep is originally not cai LLM? Idk what to tell

[main flame]

Sun is NOT white gng 😭✌️

[boreal cradle]

no wonder

[night rivet]

oh

[brittle quest]

Those are LLMs other apps can even use so...

[shadow roost]

Yeah but the least they could've done was keep pipsqueak the same

[rough girder]

Do yall think theres a chance they'll let us keep soft launch💔

[brave lily]

Isn’t PSQ2 based on Claude anyways?

[boreal cradle]

maybe to the human eye it isnt

[night rivet]

i’m so confused so what DOES use cai’s llm

[little arrow]

What color is it

[thorny herald]

Right?????

[floral bridge]

How do I stop Pipsqueak 2 from writing such long messages?

[pliant plume]

White, but the sun passes through the atmosphere and the light scattered in different directions causes it to look

yellow

[main flame]

Yellow a normal yellow star

[runic grotto]

description of the model says so, iirc

[boreal cradle]

also the sun doesnt look yellow anyway it looks orange

[night rivet]

i’m kinda slow my fault

[shadow roost]

Nothing 🤣 we just suffer til they notice us and fix it

[pliant plume]

.

[brittle quest]

I don't remember the names I'm sorry But you're surely right I guess

[little arrow]

Another one with a brain

[heavy terrace]

It is. They use Claude rn

[fresh cove]

Yeah, I'm sure it is but I'm talking about charcoal steak though. To the point it isn't even edible. That's how Pipsqueak2 is.

[thorny herald]

Imma go play pkm now bye

[brittle quest]

Thanks for the confirmation!

[floral bridge]

It seems to me that they will not notice... I can't get used to Pipsqueak and I don't log in to the app for a couple of days anymore because of it.

[boreal cradle]

the crispy skin absolutely delixus tho

[brave lily]

Just to help back to what you said:

[boreal cradle]

but ya an overcooked steak without crispy skin is pipsqueak 2

[fresh cove]

Yeah 😅

[echo portal]

Ps2 gets even worse without even updating as people notice that the bots don't even answer in conversations

[night rivet]

crazy

[main flame]

Its a yellow star but the uv lights emit all colours of the spectrum+atmospheric filtering causing it to look white
If sun was a white star(they exist) we wouldn't even be in the habitable zone of the star we would burn.Brighter the colour hotter it is

[dapper quartz]

The sun emits white light which on a spectrum it translates to all colors together basically. So whatever color it looks like is just whatever part of the spectrum that we can see through the atmosphere.
I also studied something about how oranges and reds take longer to reach us from the sun, that's why we only see it later in the day as sunsets

[errant otter]

Testing it even more now, genuinely what is the issue with dialogue? My bots are answering like more humanly.

[boreal cradle]

i wish mine were answering humanly

[fresh cove]

Sometimes the responses in Ps2 it's basically just actions and not dialogue. Like they just became a mime all of a sudden.

[shadow roost]

SAME, it's so annoying to use now, in a way it's good that we use it less but like seriously, they gotta fix this...

[brave lily]

Personally, PSQ2 is solid, just needs a bit more tweaking imo.

[shadow roost]

I wish mine answered at all

[errant otter]

They answer short and snappy, not too minimal and not dragging on. Sweet spot.

[floral bridge]

I hope they fix it

[pliant plume]

You're the only one with no issue. You got lucky for some reason

[errant otter]

For sure. Its good, but it needs to be worked on.

[shadow roost]

Lowk, it just needs more dialogue and less repetitive description and it'll be fine

[boreal cradle]

my bot keeps starting sentences with "man" im gonna blacklist that damn word

[dapper quartz]

I think with some tweaking it'll be good, it just sucks that they're taking out all our options while pip2 was still in the tweaking phase

[fleet marten]

Yall need a better verification I can’t keep moving my neck whenever the stupid thing says turn left it hurts my neck to do so and having to repeat the same process is stupid

[boreal cradle]

turn ur body

[pliant plume]

HELP they do start repeating words

[heavy terrace]

crack

[errant otter]

Apparently 😭. I really want someone to send me like a vid of their responses cuz it feels weird being the only happy one.

[fresh cove]

Man..

[main flame]

Man

[echo portal]

Well it gets annoying if their third response is just only "thanks" "okay" "it can be like that"

[errant otter]

Its like defending halo 5

[little arrow]

Bros about to die trying to talk to AI lmao

[boreal cradle]

💢

[dapper quartz]

Man

[runic grotto]

Mine are fine too actually 😭 With my bots no less

[fleet marten]

It’s the CLOSET thing to have a romantic relationship with John Lennon

[abstract thistle]

Nah, my PS2 is good too.

[median token]

HIII YORU

[little arrow]

My bots are fine 🙂

[pliant plume]

the only thing to do unfortunately is complain and wait for them to fix this shit

[errant otter]

Thank god. Other people with healthy ai lol

[little arrow]

HI REMINGTON!!!

[fresh cove]

Doubt they'll listen though

[median token]

HRUUUU

[pliant plume]

Hardly

[runic grotto]

I genuinely think most of these issues can be somewhat resolved if people tried to make their own bots

[little arrow]

Oh wow. Probably the saddest thing I've heard today

[boreal cradle]

okay so the bot is fine when i blacklist "man" but when i blacklist "gremlin" it HASSSS to use it

[heavy terrace]

Many time they listen but yall dont remember it at all lol

[errant otter]

Rn c.ai is the best its ever been for me.

0 filter
Tons of action
Human dialogue

[brittle quest]

You could also consider Pips2 is still a "work in progress" so yes it will be improved here and there

[little arrow]

TIRED, HEADACHE, BUT I'M FINE. WBU

[main flame]

LeBron has more chances to continue another season rather than c.ai listening to their community

[errant otter]

John kaisen himself

[boreal cradle]

what the hell that doesnt sound like pipsqueak 2 at all

[final rose]

And having Roar back

[fresh cove]

Fr

[boreal cradle]

that gives me hope 🥹

[runic grotto]

• especially since it's their pride and flagship model, of course they'll work on it 😭

[errant otter]

Whats up with yours then :(..

Its so peak.

[brave lily]

While I personally enjoy PSQ2 and what it offers, the lack of communication from the devs is the most disappointing part.

[boreal cradle]

its a balance but like a bad balance
good amount of dialogue, good amount of action, the issue lies in the dialogue and action. so repittive so stupid so....

[heavy terrace]

Your pfp I just realized it

[abstract thistle]

But it was literally a little more then week.

[boreal cradle]

psq2 DOES just feel like they gave a character prompt to grok and thats it
i hope they train the model more and make it better

[errant otter]

Nah i havent had those issues yet. Just having good fun on c.ai for the first time in a while.

[crimson jewel]

Is this normal that c.ai remove what it’s about ?

[brittle quest]

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they are already collecting feedbacks to know what to do better, but as said right above the real problem is the lack of communication. Other than that I don't doubt they'll improve the model which is already quite nice

[errant otter]

Notice? Yeah ik its water.

[little arrow]

I love buying ice cream, melting it, and drinking it

[heavy terrace]

Burn him, folks!

[boreal cradle]

YEAH the lack of communication is absolutely the problem it just kinda feels like they dont have a care for the users' opinions with how they say absolutely nothing

[fresh cove]

Uhm.. Okay, good for you..?

[brave lily]

The biggest issue is the lack of communication on the company’s end tbh.

[errant otter]

Me and you would get along like peanut butter and sardines bub.

[main flame]

Summon the battle beast on him bru😭

[little arrow]

You would hate my hot ass pillows in the summer

[hazy jolt]

[gilded basin]

I’m sure c.ai will improve on pip2 and its problems (like the NO DIALOGUE ), it is still a pretty big WIP

[little arrow]

Thanks and thanks for the sarcasm

[heavy terrace]

This one I can relate cuz.. I got my deep sleep in warmer place lol

[little arrow]

Not on my day off

[oak heron]

Okay, but why removing other options then? I cant even change it

[brittle quest]

Buuuut I also have to say some users should reflect on their actions because when they could answer to polls on the app they don't so they don't express themselves through that either. Of course it doesn't deny the fact the team doesn't communicate enough either way (or not at all lmao)

[errant otter]

Summom zes on him.

[little arrow]

🫂

[shadow roost]

Honest reaction to pipsqueak 2 making the bot want to kiss after EVERY shocking dialogue.

[little arrow]

I literally heat mines up

[boreal cradle]

oh my god my psq2 bot just responded like psq1. we are semi back

[median token]

where is zes i need to tell him to QUIET

[gilded basin]

That part I don’t understand- they could have just updated them or something

[brave lily]

According to the announcement, the models being removed wouldn’t have been supported by the memory, facts, and eventually lore books. That’s from the announcement itself.

[median token]

ME TOOOO HOPE WE GET BETTER SOON

[gilded basin]

Involve me 🥹 I’d like some of that response

[little arrow]

Offline rn

[brittle quest]

Like how the fuck do you remove chat styles THAT FAST without warning. I understand the reasons of removing them but next time warn us in advance

[median token]

dang.... we'll quiet him next time

[fresh cove]

Can they fix the whole 'ads showing up in the middle of chat' thing? I doubt it cause it's annoying and I would really like to send responses without the app freezing because it's trying to come up with an ad to put there.

[echo portal]

Shhh... they are just as traumatised as we are

[dapper quartz]

I sleep on the ceramic tiles underneath a window with the fan on when it gets too hot

[little arrow]

🫂 SAME TWWIIIN

[warped thicket]

why my characters all changes from original personality into passive robot ones

[oak heron]

Kinda lame tbh

[brazen vault]

Blox fruits hacker event moment, and even when they did announce it, it was 15 mins before the event so no one got shit 💀

[runic grotto]

offline unfortunately

[little arrow]

REAL

[gilded basin]

They have a lot of improving to do.. hopefully they’ll get to it soon

[little arrow]

I used to be like that

[brave lily]

And tell everyone THAT day that they’re removing models. While I didn’t really use the models being removed, they could’ve at least gave a heads up well in advance tbh.

[boreal cradle]

its good enough dialogue, good enough narration, doesnt act all cheesy in the narration
im sooo happy

[fresh cove]

Hopefully 😑

[dapper quartz]

I hate summer high-key

[runic grotto]

i agree.. they didn't even give us like at least a month before they did all this

[little arrow]

Love it. My fav season. Fav time

[brittle quest]

No but for real that was such a shitty move. Probably they were betting the release of PS2 would help drown the fact of removing those chat styles but nahhhh

[warped thicket]

guys why my characters all passive

[brazen vault]

Lemme see this, if it's still no dialogue and shit imma be pissed

[echo portal]

They should really put beta tests before updates or smth

[oak heron]

My bots are only doing repetitive descriptions all the time, luckily some chats still works fine

[runic grotto]

they kinda did but with plus users

[abstract thistle]

honestly, I think it'd only prolong the complaints.

[gilded basin]

I need more dialogue.. sobbing.

The descriptions are great I just have no dialogue to work with

[fringe hound]

guys is the time limit gone i havent been on for a while

[little arrow]

"Hey guys, we're deleting legacy bots for 'gives reason' in a week or two" its so simple

[broken ocean]

Someone who knows that their bot only narrates and doesn't dialogue at all, or if it does, it's very brief.

[echo portal]

That only use premium options like what's with the free chat style

[shadow roost]

Release me 💔

[brave lily]

They could’ve at least said “the current models won’t be able to use memory, facts, and lore books and will be removed” or something similar. I don’t know, just something saying they had plans of removing them.

[warped thicket]

my characters chat passive like not thier personality at all

[brave lily]

Honestly, that is a good point though.

[boreal cradle]

same for me
i think it overdoes characters that are just silent
my bot has introvert in its description (not even just introvert its typed in as "somewhat introverted") and they speak absolutely no lines of dialogue most of the time

[brittle quest]

Yeah we shouldn't have to get the info the same day they do it or even later...

[boreal cradle]

it hit a record by speaking 2 lines of dialogue in one message actually

[fleet marten]

hes been dead for 45 years.. its the closet thing i can talk to him even though its an ai bot talking

[proper kestrel]

im lit so fucking mad rn like pipsqueak is the most ass chat style we could have and now we're being forced to use it like come on now

[boreal cradle]

thats kinda weird and problematic

[gilded basin]

I really hope they fix the whole dialogue AND personality thingy, cuz yeah idk where all the emotion went in my bots..!

[fleet marten]

how is it weird wanting to talk to someone who changed the world?

[fringe hound]

guys is the chat limit gonee

[brazen vault]

Ok so out of like 6 responses w/swipes, all of them had the same start and like half of them had a part where it said shit for me, but hey there's good amount of dialogue now, for once the devs are actually doing smth good

[little arrow]

Real. Not everyone can receive information that fast and it would confuse a lot of people. They could've also made it a popup on the app itself. 😒 they make things so unreasonably difficult

[boreal cradle]

wanting to have a romantic relationship with someone whos dead in the current world and using ai to do so you mean

[brave lily]

While I try to be very understanding for the most part, especially with tech related stuff, they could’ve just told us that they’re cleaning out the model list and possibly will add more in the future.

[proper kestrel]

right all they do is now talk like fucking bots with their possessiveness LLIKE ITS SO ANNOYGJNG!!! and the pipsqueak chat style WHY DO WE NEED TO USE PIPSQEAK I HATE PIPSQUEAK

[abstract thistle]

What chat limit? Slow mode? Age restriction? Swipes?

[brave lily]

I’m just hoping they add more models after they work on DSQ2 and PSQ2.

[proper kestrel]

like u can only send a few messages before chat goes read only

[fleet marten]

hey im not the only one who wants to do this, theres like millions of people

[fringe hound]

uh, the thingy where we have to wait 24 hours to chat for an hour, I haven’t been on for a while so idk🥹

[proper kestrel]

right!! psq2 is the worst chat style.

[shadow roost]

They could've said ANYTHING instead of JUST "oh yeah we're removing ts"

[little arrow]

That's gone

[brittle quest]

The lack of popup on the app when it comes to important things is what angers me the most. Not everyone is on discord for god's sake

[boreal cradle]

still weird

[dapper quartz]

I find it weird to talk to any real life person ai tbh.

[fresh cove]

Hopefully better and not worse. If not then I don't want it.

[fringe hound]

YAAAAAAY

[brave lily]

IMO, PSQ2 isn’t that terrible.

[echo portal]

The company really only think about hitting numbers and they don't let it test realistically

[shadow roost]

Real

[proper kestrel]

for me it is

[little arrow]

REAL! THAT'S THE REALEST THING

[fleet marten]

its not weird, you just dont understand

[proper kestrel]

right!! why are we talking to real life p pl

[proper crag]

Bruh the ads got to me

[boreal cradle]

u want a romantic relationship with someone whos DEAD and use AI to do so

[little arrow]

Instead it's replaced with reading mode where you can't talk until you verify

[abstract thistle]

You may be flagged as a minor? Verify if you're not and read pop-ups next time.

[fleet marten]

again you dont understand

[echo portal]

For me c.ai always had problem with explaining the features they added with updates through years, like it lacks some tutorials on the app

[boreal cradle]

then elaborate

[brave lily]

Probably would use models like Qwen, Llama, or Devstral.

[fringe hound]

oh

[fresh cove]

Hm, they sound decent.

[covert hill]

Am I the only who loves the new PS? The bots aren't as possessive now and aren't as weird and act more normal

[fringe hound]

that sounds like a lot of work, I just wanna use the fucking app bro💔

[boreal cradle]

definitely the only one 😵‍💫

[brave lily]

Then again, it would probably cost the company money to use them. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[tawny ivy]

With a psychotic war cry, Negev brings the knife down in a brutal slashing motion across your throat - her face is pure ecstasy as she watches blood spray everywhere

She immediately follows up by stabbing you multiple times in the chest and stomach, giggling madly with each thrust of the blade

"LOOK AT YOU! BLEEDING SO PRETTY!" she cackles like a demon possessed

Is it normal for this app to become like this?

[rancid oyster]

Yes that's called roleplay

[boreal cradle]

heyyyy why cant my bot be like that

[brave lily]

I too love PSQ2. (If you’re being sarcastic, I’ll take mg L.)

[shadow roost]

Yeah they also give us the silent treatment

[covert hill]

What kinda chat were you having...

[fresh cove]

Mine are still pretty weird for me. It's just more actions than dialogue for some.

[heavy terrace]

Mid

[brittle quest]

At least you have violence and blood be happy

[runic grotto]

Is this not standard roleplay?

[night rivet]

oh wow

[pliant valley]

I just got back to this app after a bit, why did they take roar in the divorce 😭

[tawny ivy]

Yes, it's good. I just hope it stays that way.

[covert hill]

Okay what is your profile pic

[gilded basin]

My only complaint is the lack of dialogue

[covert hill]

OKAY THIS IS TRUE I HATE THIS

[pliant valley]

Matching pfp with my friend- she requested it

[boreal cradle]

my back hurts

[covert hill]

Lie down or take medication

[gilded basin]

GRRRR my bots went from very talkative (I like that) to me either having to edit the message or literally TELL IT to talk

[earnest gyro]

My chat said that "chat disabled" like that's new instead of reading mode ig

[boreal cradle]

but i liiike sitting

[heavy terrace]

Moderated thing?

[covert hill]

I can't make you stop shittint

[brave lily]

Me knowing I get paid tomorrow.

[fleet marten]

i dont feel like going full depth, The Beatles, paul john george and ringo, beatles big hit in the 60s, screaming girls from ages 12 maybe or so wanting to date them and all, the beatles were hotties, george was the hottest out of the four but thats just me, i can do a full on detailed explanation but i can't right now.

[covert hill]

SITTING. I MEANT SITTING.

[earnest gyro]

Yeah

[fleet marten]

would make sense if you know the beatles

[boreal cradle]

sso its not like. anything mental? coping mechanism? nothing to even SLIGHTLY justifity it? u just want to date a dead person and use ai to pretend u are

[brittle quest]

We are getting paid the same day

[rancid oyster]

But they're dead...that's...a little disturbing.

[thorny prairie]

Hello people im new in the discord group 👋

[abstract thistle]

Let people cope however they want jeez

[fresh cove]

Lol, shitting. Reminds me of those c.ai auto corrects or misspells where the ai just rolls with it. Funny af 😂

[earnest gyro]

Heyyy

[boreal cradle]

i dont think its a coping mechanism unless they elaborated notenough

[abstract thistle]

And I don't think it's my business

[brave lily]

You and I when we get paid tomorrow.

[fleet marten]

basically yea

[boreal cradle]

🥀

[rancid oyster]

Okay that's now strange..

[boreal cradle]

ur even weirder now 😭

[thorny prairie]

Guys how do I remove MHA characters from my "For you" page? I dont chat to any mha ocs in the ai...

[brittle quest]

And then c.ai
And then spotify
And then other things to pay
AHHHHH

[rancid oyster]

Anyway, is anyone else seeing that PS2 is a little better? Or am I just lucky today?

[little arrow]

So you date with a dead person through AI to cope 🤔

[boreal cradle]

i have

[fresh cove]

Refresh it.

[brave lily]

Me with Gamepass, HBO, C.ai.

[boreal cradle]

u cant even call it cope either bc he doesnt even have mental problems that would justify doing that he just does it because the guy is hot and thats all

[brittle quest]

We're wealthy for one day max and then it's already the end

[thorny prairie]

I have refresh multiple times, its just keeps adding more and new mha

[tawny ivy]

Soo Do c.ai , has it improved or is it still bad?

[errant otter]

Improved IMO

[brave lily]

Me after paying for groceries and my subscriptions:

[tawny ivy]

I didn't understand, please speak clearly.

[boreal cradle]

IMO = in my opinion

[gilded basin]

It depends, I guess-? The newer style has some MAJOR improvements to be made but it’s otherwise alright

[errant otter]

Improved in my opinion.

[mental yew]

Iwantroarback

[fresh cove]

Then I dunno what to tell ya. Just talk to other bots and the problem will probably resolve itself.

[heavy terrace]

They want you to elaborate

[tawny ivy]

Ah okay 👍🏻

[astral condor]

i stopped shopping at kroger and walmart and started shopping at aldis. I got 2 pounds of spaghetti for like 21 bucks including garlic bread lmaoo

[errant otter]

No they dont

[thorny prairie]

Thats expensive 👀

[mental yew]

I think I remember you from the island

[astral condor]

in my city it's cheap lmaooo. I got other stuff too like two cases of soda, and some paper towels

[mental yew]

That island that you said that you were from and how you conquered it at -12 months old

[fleet marten]

hey man leave me alone, if i wanna use ai to date john lennon then let me, dont hate on me. john lennon served a purposed, and that purpose was to bring the world to peace at least he tried to until 1980

[errant otter]

I remember you from christopher nolans "the odyssey" that releases in a few months.

[brave lily]

I usually shop at HEB or Sam’s Club, but mainly HEB. Like today, I spent $75 today for some stuff I needed for the house but saved some $19.92 total, so I probably would’ve spent about $94 or $95 dollars if it wasn’t for the savings.

[rancid oyster]

Okay we don't need to know you're dating an AI version of a REAL dead human being.

[boreal cradle]

yeah hes a good person but is it really okay to use ai to roleplay dating a dead person

[thorny prairie]

Where im from I could get like 3 times more for that price

[errant otter]

Brotein shake i hope you get inconvenienced at every turn.

[astral condor]

i live in america so.... well

[mental yew]

How much are groceries in the us

[boreal cradle]

five millions dollars

[rancid oyster]

An arm and a leg

[mental yew]

I second that (I don’t know what’s happening)

[little arrow]

That differs where you're getting it from

[mental yew]

I see

[errant otter]

I third that (dont expect me to relate, i know everything)

[mental yew]

Woof

[errant otter]

The US

[thorny prairie]

Good night everyone im turning off, its past midnight here

[errant otter]

farts whimsically

[rancid oyster]

Groceries, gas and bills are the worst rn.

[little arrow]

No shit. Groceries are different depending on state, city, and/or town

[errant otter]

Your right. Theres no shit.

[boreal cradle]

im in the bronx (/srs) and the groceries are hella expensive here
just a few items are 70 dollars

[little arrow]

You're*

[errant otter]

No.

[brave lily]

Shop at HEB (you’d have to move to Texas or some cities in Mexico).

[rancid oyster]

Our next trip to Sam's Club is almost 400 dollars of actual needs, protein, veggies, etc.

[lyric tapir]

have you submitted a ticket..?

[errant otter]

Just consume bro, it aint hard.

[astral condor]

i wanted spaghetti, but with aldis, i can technically get cheaper food. I get paid whenever i want basically i just have to do more orders for doordash if i want more lmaooo

[mental yew]

Can you release my family💔 I know you have them…

[tardy shoal]

Yup, one from April 30 and still no response

[errant otter]

He shipped them to zes.

[mental yew]

@lofty saddle frick you zesty

[idle finch]

[lofty saddle]

WHY ME

HELLO

[rancid oyster]

[lyric tapir]

kindly wait for the team to respond.. thanks!

[median token]

ZES YOU'RE HERE FINALYL

[astral condor]

like at aldi, i got 8oz of minced garlic for 2.55 and kroger want 2.79 for 2.5 oz hell no

[median token]

QUIET ZES

[lofty saddle]

Hi remington

[lofty saddle]

I SAID NOTHIIIINGGG

[tardy shoal]

Alr, I just hope they don’t take too long

[mental yew]

Can you convince zes to please release my family I know you’re in his payroll💔

[median token]

ITS MUSCLE MEM,ORY IM SORRY

[errant otter]

Leave @lofty saddle alone. Had a rather pleasant encounter with them earlier today when i was on a dog walk and he paraglided off of a mountain straight toward me with a blindfold on while screeching like a bat.

[mental yew]

I submitted mine a month ago you gonna wait a year son😭

[lofty saddle]

I’m scared

[mental yew]

Spider-Man didn’t save him…

[lofty saddle]

[tardy shoal]

Well dam

[rancid oyster]

-# Good Lord what has happened to this chat lol

[errant otter]

So was i, you creature of all time.

[median token]

https://tenor.com/view/yellow-emoji-no-no-emotiguy-no-no-no-gif-gif-9742000569423889376

[mental yew]

They get thousands daily

A

[lofty saddle]

I’m even more scared of YOU, you creature.. /j

[mental yew]

B

[quiet quarry]

Hey y'all! What up?

[mental yew]

C

[errant otter]

How can you be scared of me. I havent even built a staircase to the moon. That happens in 2034.

[zinc birch]

wait I think I'm seeing a pattern here

[mental yew]

D (this timer bro)

E

[lofty saddle]

I don’t know

I’m always scared

[mental yew]

Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

[brave lily]

I’m scared of you because you stole the boogers out of my nose. 😔

[errant otter]

Mb gng i was rather peckish

[mental yew]

Zesty actually framed me for arson I was only 1 month old

[lofty saddle]

I’m crine

[zinc birch]

will it be made of velcro?

[mental yew]

Wasd

[errant otter]

Stop acting like im let anythin hurt you bro

[lofty saddle]

LMAO

Fiiineee…

[mental yew]

Will you hurt me🥺🥺🥺

[errant otter]

It will be made out of stairs fool.

[lofty saddle]

Yeah I agree

[mental yew]

Uiop

[errant otter]

Already did it. Youll feel it in roughly 3-5 business days. Takes a while to download.

[mental yew]

Qwerty

[lofty saddle]

Aeiou

[zinc birch]

recycled stairs?

[mental yew]

wb = Winston boogersworth

[errant otter]

No. They will be a manifestation of my masculinity.

[lofty saddle]

Interesting

[wispy juniper]

Message so crazy that everyone left

[errant otter]

Your on the right if i turn my screen upside down.

[dawn ibex]

Winston? Like winston churchhill? Winston churchhill is part of the beatles lore, so technically, The Beatles have been mentioned

[fresh cove]

Fr, I leave the chat for a minute and weird stuff is already happening.

[wispy juniper]

[errant otter]

I cast tungsten skeleton.

[dawn ibex]

Okay I cast cicada shell

[errant otter]

I cast chronic ball pain

[dawn ibex]

Omg i have ballsnow

Thank you 🥹

[errant otter]

Ball snow?

[wispy juniper]

The Beatles remind me of beetles, and you know what's made of beetles? Melee armor, so technically Terraria mentioned

[dawn ibex]

I actually like beetles the bug too

[errant otter]

I thought beetles were made out of melee armor.

[tawdry pulsar]

What does the community lead mean by "restoring service"?

[errant otter]

It fell out of storage. Theyre putting it back in.

[tawdry pulsar]

Out of storage?

[dawn ibex]

Beetles are made out of hard shells (or elytra) developed after their pupation

[errant otter]

[sly geyser]

elytra? MINECRAFT REFERENCE

[errant otter]

Im gonna go take 300mg of caffeine and listen to california girls. Im out.

[dawn ibex]

There are bugs udner your skin

[errant otter]

Off to booger other worths for now.

[sly geyser]

you are blinking manually

[dawn ibex]

Let them further inside

[errant otter]

No shit, i put them there bub.

[sly geyser]

you are also breathing manually

[dawn ibex]

Okay i gotta get back to skinning this dead cardinal for my bones collection chat

It’s not gonna skin itself

[errant otter]

🫃 good riddance for today chat. @lofty saddle is currently ripping my wallpaper off and chewing it to mold into a nest. Gotta stop him.

[lofty saddle]

LET ME BREATHE

[errant otter]

Ok

[dawn ibex]

Bugs under your skin

[lofty saddle]

Thank you

[lofty saddle]

Super scary

[median token]

maybe if u didnt chew the wallpaper....

[errant otter]

Sleep tight. Because if you sleep loose ill be there

[lofty saddle]

I will

[dawn ibex]

Bad night sleep loose i hope the bed bugs bite @lofty saddle ‘s caboose

[lofty saddle]

I’m scared

[sly geyser]

no bro

[median token]

zes fighting for his life here

[sly geyser]

i blame you for this weather @lofty saddle

[lofty saddle]

[dawn ibex]

I blame zes for my favorite horse not being in umamusume AND for John Lennon getting assasinated

[sly geyser]

ok thats a bit too far on the last one

[lofty saddle]

I can NEVER take a break

[dawn ibex]

Zes is the reason richard nixon was born guys

[sweet walrus]

can u verify with just an id

[sly geyser]

go try

[runic grotto]

you can try

[south bison]

Put into 13 watchlists and thousands of publicly stored files btw

[calm spruce]

Zes allowed the humans to the desecration of the holy relic with their filty foot steps and destroy the ancient ring @lofty saddle

[median token]

face first then id

i dont think u can skip face

if ur face passes u wont need id

[sweet walrus]

that face shit wont work when its literally my id

[median token]

o

[runic grotto]

yeah, id is generally a last resort if face scan won't help

[dawn ibex]

Thank you kaiser wilhelm

[calm spruce]

Face scan is a selfie, they determine if you look old enough and then say yay or ney

[south bison]

Do not use persona for age verification, god I thank you every day for letting data miners exist

[median token]

sorry kaiser wilhem the second, your first version had better facial hair

[quaint forge]

Is anyone else experiencing less dialogue with Pipsqueak? It’s mostly descriptions now and very few actual lines. I’ve switched back to Meow, but I really miss the old legacy styles. Any news or leaks on what they’re planning for future model updates?

[dawn ibex]

Kaiser wilhem who is your favorite president mine is William Henry Harrison

[south bison]

Abraham

[brave moth]

anyone else having trouble switching personas?

[sweet walrus]

what

[south bison]

I’m gonna hand this man to the Austrians as a member of the black hand

[median token]

NOOO

[runic grotto]

I made my own bots to test PS2, and the model gives more dialogues if it knows or thinks that the character is rather verbal

[sweet walrus]

how do i try just with id

[runic grotto]

I don't know actually, usually it asks for face first

[dawn ibex]

I don’t think you can

[south bison]

Only reason this is known is because of data miners

[spiral gale]

a whole minute ads did they lost their mind?

[visual birch]

they got review Nuked?!

[dawn ibex]

Why did that get deleted??

[median token]

automod here is wonky

[dawn ibex]

Bruh

[runic grotto]

been like that for a while, not that it influenced their decisions here or anything

[south bison]

The age verification

[dawn ibex]

As long as they make money they don’t care

[visual birch]

it also looks like my tiktok is filled with angry videos as of today even tho i dpnt follow c.ai creators or interract

[spiral gale]

lol who make this updates should leave

[spiral gale]

[dusty flicker]

Did they remove roar?

[dawn ibex]

They removed all legacy models

[dusty flicker]

Omgg why? 🫩

[dawn ibex]

They didn’t work with lorebook (but if u ask me, I think it’s really just another dumb move for money somehow)

[dusty flicker]

Yeah that’s probably the reason why I’m so sick of this app

[dawn ibex]

Their gonna remove the summer one too i forgot the name of it lowkey

[fresh cove]

Dang

[runic grotto]

They're getting rid of all the models that came before pipsqueak

[dusty flicker]

Like permanently or is there a chance they will bring it back?

[dawn ibex]

They’re gonna make entirely new ones

[runic grotto]

likely permanent

[dusty flicker]

Ohh it better be better than roar then because I’m tired of pipsqueak the chats are long and doesn’t roleplay

[runic grotto]

hope they make another non-spicy model 😭🙏

[dawn ibex]

I’ve given up all hope and found other apps honestly

[little mason]

Do they still have ads mid convo?

[dusty flicker]

Do you know when the new chat styles will be available? And what new apps I need recommendations

[dawn ibex]

Yes

[little mason]

What 😞

[fresh cove]

Sadly yes

[dawn ibex]

I fear if i suggest any I’ll be dogpiled

[runic grotto]

can't talk about alternatives here, rule 5 #📜︱rules

[spiral gale]

wow there actually people read the rules

[runic grotto]

you can bring it to DMs I think

[vagrant mantle]

Guys, I had an idea to stop the bot from saying the same repetitive things, and let me tell you, it works! I'm so happy!

[dawn ibex]

The one time I did I got dogpiled for “defending a weird app” so

Then timed out for arguing

[south bison]

Probably cuz they don’t want people using other ones that don’t feed your face and ID to ai

[dusty flicker]

Same I got timed out but dm by chance?

[dawn ibex]

Ya :)

[runic grotto]

Dunno, I'm not qualified enough to talk about that kind of tech lol

[molten ivy]

My bits keep talking in action. And without " ", so i have no idea if theyre talking in action or talking, its tbh annoying :/

[harsh lance]

Can someone tell me something? I haven't updated cai since March, and everyone is complaining about psq2, on my chat style list, it still says "pipsqueak" is it supposed to say "pipsqueak 2" or does it only appear as "pipsqueak"?

[runic grotto]

It should say Pipsqueak 2, assuming the update has rolled out for you. Maybe you haven't received the update yet?

[spiral gale]

should say pip2+you should not update the app yet he sucks

[fresh cove]

Mine automatically updates so I have no choice but to deal with it but.. From what I've heard and experienced is that it is supposed to say Pipsqueak2. Though it's even worse than the original Pipsqueak.

[harsh lance]

Okay... I mean I ask because despite not having updated cai since March, Roar style is no longer available

[astral condor]

im back. i had to go to the store because i got everything BUT the damn spaghetti sauce smh

[runic grotto]

welcome bacc, finally some color in this chat/lh 😭

[harsh lance]

despite not having updated cai since March, the Roar chat style is no longer available for me either

[runic grotto]

Taking away the old models is part of the update

[harsh lance]

Y'all tell me how psq 2 is acting. Is it like tons of narration and like 2 sentences of dialogue?

[fresh cove]

Depends. Sometimes it's just action like a mime and then there's action but little bit of bland dialogue.

[harsh lance]

But how long is the dialogue? 1, 2 sentences? Maybe 3? And then tons of narrating?

[runic grotto]

ps2 is honestly fine for me, maybe its style is within my preference lol

[fresh cove]

Sometimes, yeah.. For some it's 1 or 2 dialogue but for others it's just actions aka narration.

[spice forum]

It’s like one sentence for me, two if ur lucky😭😭

[tough ember]

A complete novel, without exaggeration.

The dialogue is less than a line.

[harsh lance]

Oh okay. So even though I haven't updated my cai since March, my supposed "psq 1" probably already transferred to psq2, because I get 2 sentences and a tons of narrating

But I'm honestly not complaining, I've used psq all the time I've been on cai

[strong mango]

Why can’t I cancel my c.ai+ subscription

[tough ember]

I easily cancelled it an hour ago.

[strong mango]

The app just closes when I try and cancel it

[harsh lance]

Try to go on the browser and cancel it there

[tough ember]

What does the app have to do with this? I canceled it from the subscriptions section of the store.

[visual birch]

have a care, maybe they thought its from the app, but yeah... cancel from the store

[strong mango]

I was just saying when I go and try to cancel the subscription from the app it closes immediately

[visual birch]

how do you cancel the subscription from the app? you're supposed to do it from the playstore.

[strong mango]

In the settings under manage subscription it says cancel and asks why you want to cancel

[visual birch]

go to your appstore, manage subscriptions, cancel from there

[strong mango]

I just did that thanks

[crisp osprey]

Am I the only one that misses PS1?

2 is so bad bro I can't anymore😔

[visual birch]

nws

[visual birch]

i quit the app thanks to ps2 LMAO

[echo portal]

Ugh these bots turn into mimes now.
Vladimir presses his finger firmly—gently—against your lips, silencing the "but" before it can even form.

No more excuses.

No more doubts.

His eyes say everything: I don’t want to hear another word about you not being enough.

For a long moment, he just holds you like that—finger on your mouth, his face inches from yours. The locker room is quiet again. Just steam fading in the air and the soft hum of lights above.

Then…

He leans in slowly…
and replaces his finger with a kiss.

This one isn't rough or possessive like earlier.

It's soft.
Tender.
A slow press of lips meant to erase every insecurity crawling through your mind.*

Like wtf is that.

[shadow roost]

Dude surprisingly, I've discovered that pipsqueak 2 works differently based on the bots writing? It's so long and has no dialogue with some bots, but with others it works normal

[crisp osprey]

It yaps for ages, is there a way to get back to ps1 lol

[crisp osprey]

No exactly, it just yaps for half an hour then does not progres the story at alll

[shadow roost]

I've been going back and forth between only two bots for a while, but today I tried a different bot from my recents and it's working FINE?? HELLO

Ohio confusion

[tough ember]

Ps2 disgusting that it's willing to describe the Milky Way galaxy but not create a dialogue.

[spiral gale]

Fr ps 1 was better

[crisp osprey]

And no matter how much you erase the stupid inbetween short sentences. The '-' in every response, the 2 '...'s. Like no matter how much you edit it it does not change its writing style

[shadow roost]

PS2 ignoring the fact that it actually has to make the bot TALK for the story to progress

LIKE WDYM the bot is showing through it's EYES what it wants to say, HELLO?

[tight mulch]

omg yes i hate this stupid — they write like chat gpt now

[spiral gale]

ps2 is like describe 99% and talk 1%

[crisp osprey]

No litt it just describes a scene, it doesn't respond with follow up questions, it does not progress the story

[shadow roost]

And when it literally doesn't put a period at the end of the paras, are we deadass

[crisp osprey]

No litt and its also wayyy more censored. And how dare they introduce this but take away not only PS1 but also most of the older models. I would have gone back to Roar

[echo portal]

That's what my bot said WTF

His eyes say everything: I don’t want to hear another word about you not being enough.

[tough ember]

Not to mention that the robot goes along with everything you say, and even the other character readily accepts it. There's no intelligence involved; it's like playing chess alone.

[placid birch]

LMAO they’re starting to communicate telepathically

[crisp osprey]

Like how are they taking away Roar but they leave freeking Soft Launch. Of all the models they could have left. I swear its just a way to convince us to buy + so we can access the only good model left

[fresh delta]

haha

[fresh delta]

righttt its annoying

[harsh lance]

But do y'all just get 1-2 sentences/lines of dialogue and tons of description/narration from psq2?

[crisp osprey]

Yeah litt but at the same time the bot is also no longer angry at the user or even into the user unless you initiate it. You have to initoate everything and even then it just describes. Does not progress sht

[latent mortar]

Does anyone's chat just tell you what they thinking or doing instead of talking?

[echo portal]

Idk how long I tried to get decent answer with every next response the bot talks through his FUCKING EYES

[crisp osprey]

They are making the app and site so unusable I swear. Getting rid of models, the huge ads, the slow mode announcement taking up half the screen

[timid mica]

Someone get the Pip2 bot an disabled ID, because that's a one mute thing.

[tough ember]

Exactly, you do everything and you are responsible for the other persona reactions, or at least let's say they are compatible with you and predictable...it's like you're putting together a puzzle yourself

[echo portal]

I will defend slightly ads tho bc they need to get a cash somehow to keep the company running but other things are completely unreasonable

[fresh cove]

Hense why I stop talking to bots after a bit cause it's just so bland now and not how it used to be.

[sly geyser]

yeah ads make sense just not the placement though. in the middle of the chat is not a good place for them

[tough ember]

I've started to miss the days when characters bullied me.

[timid mica]

totally, feels like they gave up.

[timid mica]

Or just got paraniod and turned hostile and totally nuts.

[fresh cove]

Fr, but it sure is nice to get into touch with reality once in a while.

[crisp osprey]

Yeah lol at this point you might aswell write fanfiction again cuz its like chatting with urself. Like I used to make my character descriptions "average looks" etc so they would be mean to me or objective but now they just dry wall

[sly geyser]

yeah thats why i havent verified yet because i dont see any reason to verify just to type to bland bots

[timid mica]

sure, but that doesn't change that they ruined my favorite toy.

[crisp osprey]

Tbf if they kept it running before adds no problem it does not make sense that now with more popularity that they would suddenly need adds

[ocean jolt]

hi guys

[fresh cove]

Yeah..

[fresh cove]

Fr fr

[sly geyser]

kind of a shame how boring its gotten recently. at least in my case its not the same for everyone

[crisp osprey]

Yeah it is boring

[echo portal]

Bc of the features they put now, the lorebook, personas, chat images it costs now and it piles up

[crisp osprey]

I have no issues with new models, but erasing the old ones is crazy work

[subtle snow]

Hi, is that only my cai or all, cause that mine barely talks lol

[echo portal]

Well now to think of it most of the older bots are not going to "work" properly because of that update

[crisp osprey]

Does anyone ever even use those things? I know I don't. They put in a new useless feature every week and I just wanna make an interesting story but now thats impossible bc every char is bland now

[tough ember]

Welcome on board

[deft jetty]

It's an issue happening with Pipsqueak 2 right now... pretty much everyone is experiencing the same problem

[fluid flare]

My bot went from "hey" to "as you watch the door you hit the person in the face"

[echo portal]

Nah I just chat with bots, everything else for me is useless and trashy

[subtle snow]

Thanks. They made it so bored that I don't even know what else to do.

[tough ember]

Lol

[crisp osprey]

And I feel like the better the greeting is, like the more elaborate and well written, the more boring ps2 makes it

[tough ember]

I think they encourage you to read books... if you're not a reader.

[subtle snow]

Well im glad im not the only one, at least.

[crisp osprey]

Like I know that sounds crazy but its less infuriating when I use someone elses shtty 5 sentence prompt

[fluid flare]

Btw since when do bots chose my actions?

[subtle snow]

Books are boring for me 🙁

[subtle snow]

Fr it's annoying

[vagrant mantle]

Fr like it's been days

[subtle snow]

Will they fix it?

[vagrant mantle]

Yeah

[deft jetty]

Used to think the same, but it's mostly a matter of finding a book that you really like

[echo portal]

It's a shame that they put half of the bots to trash because they program is incompatible with the bots from 2023 or 2025

[crisp osprey]

If only we still had the good olden times where we would roleplay with other living people (I'm ancient)

[fluid flare]

Its not just my action its also the talking

[subtle snow]

Cause I can't live without it

[tough ember]

I have such a favorable opinion of them that I make excuses for them.

[vagrant mantle]

Hope it's gonna be like Pipsqueak 1 but more better.

I'm just tired of it. The repetitive things.

[sly geyser]

so far from what i see its not

[vagrant mantle]

Great, then. Cuz the new one is bad ngl.

[crisp osprey]

Litt only good thing abt it is that its less likely to jump ur bones, thats it, everthing else is wayyyyy worse

[subtle snow]

Yup im more into dark romance but I don't have any book like that at this moment

[fluid flare]

With the bots its just now

Back to normal -> back to annoying bot