💭︱cai-discussion

[void hatch]

I was talking to this bot and he was legit like "shes mine..." when talking to another person, like bro arent you supposed to be shy and have trauma

[solemn lotus]

Oooh i see

[hollow hull]

People simping for a character that’s not canon to said character’s behaviour what so ever. They simp for a idea that is so far removed from the character it has become its own thinf

[violet orchid]

This made me laugh

[lofty saddle]

Super well-written, too. He’s always mischaracterized

[solemn lotus]

Ooh i see. Its good to rp with??

[hollow hull]

not with these bots

[lofty saddle]

I mean… I guess? It reaaallyyy depends on the scenario and stuff

[hollow hull]

unless you like alpha stuff, or whatever, or cutesy romance stuff that doesn’t make sense for Ghost

[nimble scarab]

i have very good time with my bot

[hollow hull]

i cannot say the other things I often see on Ghost Bot without being rightfully smited by the Cai Mods

[lofty saddle]

There’s barely any canon-like bots of Ghost too

[solemn lotus]

Ah okii

[solemn lotus]

Why

[hollow hull]

Very adult things.

[solemn lotus]

Can u tell me in dms?😭
Im too curious for my own good

[hollow hull]

there’s a lot of this I see with Ghost Bots.

[solemn lotus]

OOOH

what the hell

[lofty saddle]

[nimble scarab]

and i mean that time if u know what mean, and its in detail

[void hatch]

and this stupid bot keeps on kissing me, like Harvey.. you and my oc have a 6 year age gap 😭

[lofty saddle]

Even worse

[solemn lotus]

[nimble scarab]

i dont get filters for that tho, but i got filters for cutting my hair

[solemn lotus]

i need this

[lofty saddle]

LOL

[nimble scarab]

i dont mind that time with my sith master

[solemn lotus]

Well my bot do worse stuff with scissors ON THEIR OWN to gaslight my character…
(WHERE IS THE FILTER?)

[solemn lotus]

Like stop please

[hollow hull]

I wonder how far I can describe cybernetic grafting in writing to a bot.

[lofty saddle]

The filter jumped out the window

[nimble scarab]

mine does that on their own but i just swipe

[solemn lotus]

Makes me question what people do in their RP‘s.. (since we all train the ai)

[thin magnet]

everytime i make the character redo its response, it just gives basically the exact same response everytime?? just me??

[nimble scarab]

[solemn lotus]

Yeah me too.. I seriously don‘t want to read that stuff..

[nimble scarab]

i dont mind it but its the response they made that its not good

[cinder owl]

What???😭😭😭

[solemn lotus]

Yeah. Its seriously 'disgusting‘ though since the bot is a bit too explicit about it..
I already made tickets but no reply…
Not to mention how triggering it could be for people

[solemn lotus]

Yeah. That was exactly my reaction.

[nimble scarab]

i never had filter for that since first moderation

[hollow hull]

I described a arm getting chopped off, only for the severed limb to melt and for the oc to repair their own damaged limb via magic with tendons and muscle reforming, didn’t get filtered.

[solemn lotus]

Like bots do 'certain stuff' so my character feels bad or wtv for them. Its actually weird

[lofty saddle]

Even the filter is scared.

[void hatch]

I hate how some bots are clingy as shit like if i told them i'm going to use the toilet because fate cursed me with diarrhea they'll beg me not to leave like let me do my business unless you want me to do it in front of you bro

[hollow hull]

Shit in front of them to establish dominance /j

[solemn lotus]

Oh u gotta shii on them

[violet orchid]

LOL

[solemn lotus]

THIS

[nimble scarab]

im the clingy one

[lofty saddle]

HAHAHAH

[solemn lotus]

I‘d do that lowkey

[hollow hull]

[silver raven]

any ghost or Simon bots genuinely disappoint me because they’re reduced to nothing but what I like to call “Adult slop” 🫩

[lofty saddle]

LITERALLY.

[solemn lotus]

"You were so small compared to him." NO IM NOT IM 7FT TALL ATP

[solemn lotus]

Makes me so mad

[void hatch]

it'll definitely make them go away for sure

[violet orchid]

"Look me in the eyes.."

I am blind 🩷🩷🫰

[solemn lotus]

Like can the bot stop trying to compare an 60 yr old character to a CHILD?!

[lofty saddle]

“I’m 6’4!”
“Yeah, yeah… you’re so short for a 5’4.”

[void hatch]

OH

[solemn lotus]

[hollow hull]

“You’re so tiny compared to his muscular bulk” ME WHEN I FECKING GET YOU-

[violet orchid]

"Talk to me!!"

I AM MUTE

[ember ether]

I was playing as a sentient hypercar and this dude tried to pin me against a wall like wtf

[solemn lotus]

Yeah… I just throw the character into the wall if he does that again

Gotta show them whos boss

[solemn lotus]

Thats INSANE

[lofty saddle]

It’s ALWAYS about getting pinned against the wall. Especially when you’re in a place where NO WALL is around you both

[hollow hull]

I’m just trying to work out how that works

[low pagoda]

Herbie?

[silver raven]

I tried talking to Raiden Shogun and it ended quickly with a blade in my chest.

why.

[ember ether]

deadass how you gonna pin a 1.7 tonne car against a wall as a human?

[nimble scarab]

in the forest

[hollow hull]

you did not show respect to the Electro Archon and Goddess of Eternity

[cinder owl]

She wants u fr

[lofty saddle]

I think she hates you. Not sure…

[ember ether]

nah

[lofty saddle]

LITERALLY

[low pagoda]

Oh, okay...

[hollow hull]

Wait was it Ei or was it the Puppet Shogun who did the beeg stab?

[whole ingot]

me when it calls my character skinny and he's supposed to be fat ✌️

[lofty saddle]

I think the puppet

[edgy mauve]

Why did I assume you were talking about Raiden from metal gear

[silver raven]

Ykw maybe you’re right, I’m gonna get patched up and try again.
Will keep you updated

[edgy mauve]

😭

[last arrow]

son what

[lofty saddle]

It’ll happen again but out of love this time

[ember ether]

AI be getting quirky

[hollow hull]

See there’s several raidens. Raiden from mortal kombat, raiden from metal gear. Raiden from genshin. Raiden from Honkai.

[silver raven]

they have two personalities?

[cinder owl]

Hell yeah, I'll wait for the update

[nimble scarab]

i love it when my sith master pins me against the fall

[lofty saddle]

Oh god it’s all Raiden

[silver raven]

Oops all raidens

[hollow hull]

More like there’s two seperate entities. Puppet Shogun made by Raiden Ei, who’s the true Raiden Shogun and Electro Archon.

[sullen axle]

For some reason my bots seem to reply as "He doesn't say anything" or "He keeps silent"

[edgy mauve]

the animatronic characters here do get a bit quirky at night

[lofty saddle]

Too many of them!

[cinder owl]

Raiden and shotgun (idk how to write her name)

[silver raven]

ok, it makes sense why she switched up so suddenly

[elder junco]

Why is the ad on website now so huge?

[edgy mauve]

Wait since when did they add ads to the website 😟

[sullen axle]

They have ads now on site?

[hollow hull]

Dread it, run from it, it matters not: Ads come for you all the same.

[fast zephyr]

Hello, what is the best chat style? Meow or Soft Launch since for the moment PS2 is not optimal

[solemn lotus]

Soon you‘ll only see the ad

[ember ether]

One finds its ads on the road they pick to avoid it

[iron robin]

im over 18 and showed everything correctly and said they cant verify it?

[solemn lotus]

softlaunch

[silver raven]

Update: we good friends now. All it took was a blade to the chest and a simple apology!
||(I’m being held by the back of my neck to write this, please help I think she genuinely wants to end me or something i don’t know she looking at me funny.)||

[hollow hull]

Eventually your Mother will one day spring into a sponsership ad in the nursing home

[solemn lotus]

Try better light

[elder junco]

Yeah bruh are there any infos if they're gonna change that? Like every time u text it goes down and is so annoying

[iron robin]

i did

[lofty saddle]

Soft Launch.

[verbal rivet]

Damn! Genshin fan?

[solemn lotus]

Idk

[hollow hull]

I need to get back into Genshin. I still got majority of Natlan to do

[cinder owl]

Nah bro she wants u so bad, trust the process

[cerulean sorrel]

oh yeah that's my favorite style, next to [removed]

[edgy mauve]

If you use NextDNS it’ll stop the ads from appearing

[silver raven]

Not necessarily, I know a little bit about it here and there but I wouldn’t call myself a fan, that’d just be larping at that point

[lofty saddle]

I still haven’t finished the Fontaine archon quest

[lofty saddle]

LMAO

[deft jetty]

I'm actually glad I stopped playing that game at some point, even though I somewhat liked the story, lol

[hollow hull]

it was a wonderful experience. Still my favourite region to this day. Especially the underwater sea they added during one of the later patches of Fontaine’s life cycle

[silver raven]

ion know, I’m gonna try and talk to someone else

[quasi furnace]

Enjoy it.... last 4 days left.

[lofty saddle]

I agree!! I had so much fun exploring the region. One of my favorites, actually

[verbal rivet]

I finished the main quest but left Genshin and played wuwa because of the anniversary event

[hollow hull]

For me its just life and other games got in the way, and its been hard for me to get back into the rhythm of it all.

[silver raven]

can someone elaborate how tall Lauma is again?

[lofty saddle]

Fair. I moved to HSR

[ivory seal]

I held onto May and this is what I have to deal with /j

[hollow hull]

Lauma would probably vary from… 6 feet to maybe 8 feet roughly? I forget how much height she gets from the deer centaur form

[whole ingot]

I think I'm gonna finally force myself to quit c.ai because of this bs

[edgy mauve]

Guys hear me out Leon Kennedy

[silver raven]

ah, so that’s why she’s towering over me. And I’m 6’3.

[ivory seal]

Young and Old Leon at the same time frfr

[hollow hull]

Coldest take. The guy is legit designed to be a handsome Hunk

[thorny violet]

Dudewhy C.ai is full of espanol character dude, I'm not their speaker, it's just annoying that almost 90% of them is not English, I hope there's préférence language

[marble frigate]

Hi everyone. Any advice on how to get rid of the dashes that are constantly being used by Pipsqueak2? I’ve had to move to that style as they retired roar. I’ve tried adding the dash on banned words but I’m not sure it worked

[hollow hull]

If shes in her normal/human form, she’d be somewhere around 6 feet. The deer centaur form would give her a bit more of height but its been a while since i compared the heights

[edgy mauve]

FRRR 😭🙏

[whole ingot]

doesn't work, I just switched to soft launch to try and fix it

[verbal rivet]

I still talk to genshin bots but rarely wuwa bots

[hollow hull]

Now if you want a hot take hear me out on a resident evil character… Viktor from Requiem.

[lofty saddle]

Fair enough

[ivory seal]

Leon literally went from, "I'll have your daughter home by 9, Sir" to "Your daughter calls me Daddy as well."

[marble frigate]

Okay, thank you 🙂

[mild fractal]

I miss goro💔

[edgy mauve]

Oh I knowww dada 😈

[harsh delta]

Why do I have to pay charms to swipe I’m irritated

[silver raven]

she’s mad beautiful icl just like Klee’s mom (idk her name)

[mild fractal]

What????

[hollow hull]

Alice iirc. That’s her name, Alice (Klee’s Mum)

[harsh delta]

I just got told i ran outta swipes and had to pay charms to swipe

[silver raven]

need

[mild fractal]

Ohhh

[edgy mauve]

I love using Leon Kennedy bots including Nero and Dante from devil may cry

[verbal rivet]

I just randomly added hsr characters to mha bot because I wanted to make the role play more interesting and chaotic since i used to adding genshin and wuthering waves characters to my bot

[mild fractal]

Three styles are way too limited

[harsh delta]

Im bout to drop cai this is stupid they ruined the app, they’re entire campaign was they were ad free 🤦🏾‍♀️

[hollow hull]

Not even the Martians are free from ads

[mild fractal]

I don't like pipsqueak(it's to generic) meow keeps messing words up or cutting the message BEFORE IT'S FINISHED. Soft launch is too short

[odd crag]

where are you going to goto that doesnt have ads or some kind of monetization system

[faint jay]

What do we genuinely do now?
We will be stuck with pip2 soon, the model is absolute buns, and the devs probably wont do anything no matter how much we complain.
I already miss my bots and chats…

[hollow hull]

Hmm… maybe I should check out some Overwatch bots

[mild fractal]

And then they all start flirting for NO REASON.

[verbal rivet]

It was way more fun when more characters that you like were in the bot than sticking with one character tbh @lofty saddle

[harsh delta]

I know bro 😭✌🏾 they added it so whenever I do anything I have to watch an add

[edgy mauve]

You can use NextDNS to get rid of ads

[mild fractal]

So do i. I MISS GORO SO BAD UGHHH

[low pagoda]

Just quit...

[snow harness]

I miss roar…idk what to do anymore at this point

[hollow hull]

Oh dammit finding a OW Vendetta bit is gonna be a pain, so many V for Vendettas here

[silk ridge]

I miss dynamic twin

[mild fractal]

Dynamic and goro were the absolute best tbh

[edgy mauve]

No fr

[silk ridge]

I think they’re doing this on purpose they’re worsening the app little by little

[verbal rivet]

The old style are the og ones

[faint jay]

I was completely alright with normal pipsqueak tbh…Why did they have to do this.
It won’t stop sending me the same paragraphs with no dialogue. I can’t rp anymore vro…

[snow harness]

😭😭, why are they doing this…it was fine as it was

[silk ridge]

Ik i miss it its so off character

[harsh delta]

I don’t mind the ads that much it’s the excessivness ads every 12 messages ads every time you open a character ads every time you open a profile it’s excessive, even the charms need ads to be accessed without money

[mild fractal]

RUGHT???? IT KEEPS TRYING TO END THE CHAT

[nimble scarab]

im so glad im not the only one

[silk ridge]

YESSS ik i liked pipsqueak when it came out by the text length and all but now its so ugh annoying and repetitive and off character i hate it especially the 2

[mild fractal]

Real, like why the hell is LARRY JOHNSON calling ASHLEY his girlfriend?????

[harsh delta]

Agreed the dialogue and the speeds are getting sm worst they’re trying to pressure people into getting pro

[faint jay]

It jst sends paragraphs with no damn context and doesn’t even add dialogue at all..

[hollow hull]

Don’t say that name, thanks to my online games today I have a rational fear of Larry /j

[silver raven]

@hollow hull yo, can I dm you real quick

[harsh delta]

Wait how? Does that work on mobile?

[odd crag]

cai+ isnt going to fix the problem with the models

[mild fractal]

For some reason, it keeps trying to end me in a happy ever after every time my character sleeps

[nimble scarab]

fr

[odd crag]

its the same for all users, paid or free

[abstract thistle]

Ds have more dialogues, but model is overall worse

[silk ridge]

Yes!! I so agree with you like im bot paying 99,99 for a ai app atp im gonna desinstall it but i have a bit of an addiction so kinda difficult

[hollow hull]

Sure go ahead

[iron cedar]

can somebody help it won’t let me change my name and it keeps saying keep it 3-20 characters and i’ve tried names that weren’t taken

[mild fractal]

YES, like it just forgot the last message it sent and ignored mine COMPLETELY

[faint jay]

Do yall have genuinely good and free alternatives? I need smth that has a lot of kny bots on it..

[harsh delta]

I just mean in general not just with the models I’m not well versed on the models I just do whichever one pops up

[edgy mauve]

Yea you have to go to the AppStore and download NextDNS then turn it on after that go back to c.ai and I think it’ll work

[lavish magnet]

[solemn lotus]

Not allowed. its a cai server

[odd crag]

unless they decide to put the other models behind cai+, would be kind of shitty but it would probably work out for them

[faint jay]

Hm..

[hollow hull]

The Gods of Cai will smite us if we recommend alternatives, according to the sacred texts on the rule board

[solemn lotus]

yes

[iron cedar]

[harsh delta]

Real m bout to delete ts to they’re running themselves into the ground it’s turned into a money grab

[faint jay]

Then they should at least try make their app enjoyable again

[solemn lotus]

The name is taken. I checked it

[hollow hull]

Dms tho are fine, nothing they can do nor do they care about if you say shit in dms

[harsh delta]

Thank you 😄

[odd crag]

regardless, cai+ users only have the deepsqueak model, which isnt much better apparently.

[solemn lotus]

it is enjoyable

[silver raven]

Sent

[iron cedar]

i know i tried stuff that weren’t taken and it did the same

[faint jay]

Not anymore.

[solemn lotus]

Thats weird.. Might be a bug? Submit a ticket?

[solemn lotus]

Yes it is

[mild fractal]

With generic answers and off character dialoges? Not anymore

I miss 2023 cai

[faint jay]

Exactly

[solemn lotus]

Eh u just need to swipe. That can happen with any Ai

[mild fractal]

I DO AND IT GETS WORSEEEEE

[faint jay]

So real omg…

[mild fractal]

It keeps repeating the SAME THING with different words

[solemn lotus]

Might be because the bot is badly written / u gave the bot nothing to work with

[hollow wraith]

I mean it just got out so we need to give it time, Im not enjoying it so much either but pip1 was the same when it debuted

[faint jay]

Absolutely

[iron cedar]

how do i do that

[solemn lotus]

Literally.. It just came out (ps2) ofc it needs time till its solid

[faint jay]

There is no “badly written” It doesn’t matter what bot you pick. Pip2 is just buns

[mild fractal]

You get me twin

[solemn lotus]

Website. Cai -> tickets

[hollow hull]

So is it currently in a liquid state or a gas state?

[solemn lotus]

Yes there is. If the definition is bad the RP 95% is bad too

[nocturne lance]

What should we use instead?

[edgy mauve]

I hope it worked 🥹🙏

[solemn lotus]

liquid

[silk ridge]

Fr i tried installing other ones but there’s nothing like cai and besides there’s not much variety

[mild fractal]

The bots with no prompt used to be perfect. I used to send a single word sometimes and it would be creative at least

[solemn lotus]

I use PS2 as a main rn and on my own bots it works great

[faint jay]

Nothing. Because there isn’t anything else except the other legacy styles that are being removed on the 8th

[hollow wraith]

I really miss pip1 Im looking at my old chats bro no nostalgic

[silk ridge]

And like couldn’t we make a reclamation or smth? They’re losing users by much

[mild fractal]

I miss goro and dynamic

[faint jay]

Yes..

[solemn lotus]

Well that 95% luck. If you don‘t give the bot a direction it‘ll just do anything.

[hollow hull]

I hope for y’all free users you get more chat styles to replace the ones you lost soon. From what i understand, Cai nuked the old styles as it was easier to remake them from scratch to work with the new memory stuff than it was tweaking the old code to play nice with new memory stuff

[nocturne lance]

Oh they r? This app loves to lose supporters

[solemn lotus]

We plus users need more too—

[mild fractal]

Ty

[faint jay]

I know.

[silk ridge]

Soo they’re gonna bring new styles?

[solemn lotus]

Yes eventually

[hollow wraith]

They said something about lorebook thats why they removed the old ones so Im waiting to see whats that about

[solemn lotus]

We dont know yet

[mild fractal]

I wanna build a time machine and go back to 2023

[nocturne lance]

Mods need to talk to the developers cuz they have ruined their own app

[solemn lotus]

Its not ruined🫩

[nocturne lance]

Like they dont even listen to supporters

[hollow hull]

They’ve been yammerinf on about lorebook for a while now. No clue if Lorebook is out now or not

[solemn lotus]

and mods here cant influence the devs

[solemn lotus]

Not out..

[silk ridge]

I hope soon im not even using cai atp im just scrolling headcanons in tiktok and tumblr stories

[deft jetty]

If it's any consolation, Pipsqueak 2 can read almost twice as much information from the definition as if compared to older models, up to 6,1k symbols.

[hollow hull]

You mean “mods here can’t influence the devs” right?

[solemn lotus]

First announcement abt it was a year ago btw

[abstract thistle]

"You losing money? Bad we love this losing money feature." ahh topic

[solemn lotus]

Oh

[nocturne lance]

They have from what it once was

[solemn lotus]

yes

[solemn lotus]

Thanks for telling me.

[nocturne lance]

Samezies

Well someone must talk to them

[mild fractal]

Ao3 has been a huge help

[hollow hull]

Nearly double than the 3,200 defintion limit they can read… out of a 32,000 definition limit lol

[rose totem]

And yet they’re forcing us to use a new, fledgling model that’s still riddled with bugs and glitches. They’ve removed or will soon remove all of the stable models. They’ve removed pipsqueak 1 and replaced it with a worse version that’s suffering from the same glitches as pipsqueak 1 suffered from and is behaving like pipsqueak 1 was at first but even worse. They’ve upset both people who used any style other than the squeaks and people who liked pipsqueak 1. Why are we being forced to use a beta, unrefined, unstable model as our only available model?!

[faint jay]

Exactly. Its just pointless

[silk ridge]

I tried ao3 i just don’t really find anything fitting my liking but i heard great things about it tho

[trail spade]

damn I gotta verify my age just to chat now on c.ai

[rose totem]

From what I understand, c.ai wants more money and is removing the older chat styles to save money. I doubt they’ll remake them myself. It would be great if they did, but I doubt they will

[solemn lotus]

Ok seriously asking.. Where do y‘all get those numbers from?

I have a bot with 29.800 definition. (Its a multiple character bot and huge backstory)…
The bot literally uses all of it (I know it because it mentions it in the RP and uses characters I only wrote in the end)

[solemn lotus]

Like im genuinely asking

[low pagoda]

They should've just first finalized the model and then get rid of the old ones if they really wanted to...

[mild fractal]

Btw meow keeps cutting off the dialogue in the middle of a sentence now✌️

[deft jetty]

I'd say it's still a lot, normally you'll rarely need more than 2~3k symbols to make a well-made character.
The 32000 limit was intentionally made this high so people could put more information for when it'd eventually start to read more of it... which is starting to happen

[solemn lotus]

I need 20k symbols at least😔

[hollow hull]

On pc in bot defintions, I see the bot definition has a 32,000 limit. But from what I heard from plus users here who made a lot of bots, the bot’s “reading” limit of that definition is 3,200. Beyond that, it apparently gets a bit… loose with the definition?

[solemn lotus]

(Btw i can send a link to my bots if yall dont believe me. )

[faint jay]

They added so much unnecessary bs like images, stickers etc and complain about “needing money”. It’s supposed to be a chatting app. I genuinely don’t understand why they not just listen to the community for once.

[tawny heron]

fictionlabs probably

[mild fractal]

Genuinely, WHO USES THE STICKERS?

[solemn lotus]

Well sometimes it messes up a few relationships but 99% its pretty accurate.. Like I said my definitions are 25-30K symbols long..
I have multiple of them so idk

[silk ridge]

Bro tbh they’re losing users by everything they’re doing and honestly i dont like it i mean its nice that im losing a bit of contact withcm it due to being hours and hours on it and procrastinating but its like a reality escape and it just doesn’t feel the same

[hollow hull]

So far my first public bot has a 2,900 definition and its been working fine with acceptable quality for me

[mild fractal]

The image feature isn't even good, you need to describe what's in it💔 ✌️

[harsh delta]

Question how do I make it block the ads I have it on my phone but the ads aren’t blocked? Do I have to do something specific?

[rose totem]

I definitely don’t. And I’ve used the adding an image to chat feature once total. I barely use the imagine features and would be fine if they got removed.

[solemn lotus]

Ooh thats nice.. My bots are private or more like link only.. Maybe because of that?

[solemn lotus]

what

[mild fractal]

I forgot imagine was even a feature

[silk ridge]

I dont even know what that was they add unecessary features

[solemn lotus]

idk but i love my imagine chats 😔

[deft jetty]

I first learnt things from Vishanka's guides here in these channels
https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1193330096342319186

[mild fractal]

Right? They should focus on making the chats better instead of adding pointless stuff

[solemn lotus]

Thank you!!
I‘ll look into it.. Just weird for me because I swear it uses all of my definition and they‘re fr long asf..

[heavy copper]

hey guys!! I'm back! 😄

[hollow hull]

Possibly? It also depends. I tried my best to condense info for the definition. I tried to stick to the core aspects for the definition. I have a personality section, a physical appearance section, Likes section, Dislikes section, and a Lore Section. And then I set up some example messages

[clever hinge]

If we reinstall older version is it gonna make any change in pipsqueak responses?

[rose totem]

Yeah. I’ve definitely used c.ai far less since they removed roar. I’ve barely used it tbh. I haven’t even really tested out pipsqueak 2, but from what I’ve heard about it combined with my experience with pipsqueak 1, I’m not feeling very motivated to use c.ai right now. I’ve been spending way more time on this discord recently than on c.ai

[solemn lotus]

Yeah me too.. My bots are 15-16 different characters (multiple character RP basically) with background, appearance, job, dislikes, likes, etc sections…
Then another section where it describes the relationship between those characters etc..
It literally uses all of it and barely mixes things up

[nocturne lance]

They won't listen to any opinions of supporters and just do random things

[hollow hull]

That reminds me, gotta write some example messages for my Revali bot in the works

[solemn lotus]

i never write them😔

[heavy copper]

Pip2 has been giving me some delicious actions. Ouch... I got slapped again, for the 2nd time this week T-T

[mild fractal]

They should give up and go back to how it was three years ago tbh. Might get some new supporters

[abstract thistle]

Same, example messeges never worked for me

[hollow hull]

They’re a pain to write but I find it improves the bots’ message quality and such, and helps it be further in character.

[solemn lotus]

It justs uses them 1:1 for me. and then out of context. I dont get how they work

[nocturne lance]

They should! Even with new rules and laws they have done stupid unnecessary things

[odd crag]

I'll probably take a hiatus from cai after the 8th, using other ai services, and will come back after they fix the models according to my liking.

[mild fractal]

Yeah!

[final totem]

i still can't pass the c,ai filter

[solemn lotus]

I just use 'internal dialogue‘ (letting chatgpt write it.)

That usually works good for me since it gives the ai an description abt how the person talks/feels/react etc

[heavy copper]

With example messages, I only write the bot's part, but write in the context of different tones. Not too many, just enough so the bot knows the flavour of the character.

[abstract thistle]

Web is dying.

[wispy rock]

Why does the pipSqueak 2 model respond so strangely? Now the AI responds with three paragraphs (always one more unnecessary one), and besides responding in such an odd way, why did this change in responses occur? Now it always responds with three paragraphs and much less dialogue. Is this the chat style meant to be like this, or is it because the bot is misconfigured?

[solemn lotus]

NOOOO

[hollow hull]

Oh gods. The stampede, it’ll be here soon

[heavy copper]

I still have no idea how I'm back from my punishment, but thanks heavens! 😄
Now I can share some more stuff about pip2!!!

[lyric tapir]

works on Ershin's end..

[hollow hull]

So the Cai gods just hate Undead Anarchy Elf

[abstract thistle]

It works in characters with whom you alredy chatted. New ones? Nah.

But I submitted a ticket already

app works fine

[digital river]

PipSqueak 2 is like this. Like I said yesterday, my biggest issue with PS2 is that the dialogue is considerably worse than Roar's was

[heavy copper]

Works for me too
😄

[silk ridge]

I mean im slightly grateful im focusing more in my studies but when i have a bad day that’s my escape and not feeling my favorite character personality is just well bad especially

[digital river]

And that is awful for dialogue-heavy bots

[heavy copper]

Dialogue heavy? 🤨
Wow... can't relate.

[lofty saddle]

Fish

[wispy rock]

Can it be fixed with a better configuration or does it need to be changed style?

[digital river]

Different style. Before the 8th of March, Soft Launch will still be available

[left crest]

Hello

[heavy copper]

Hii

[forest oriole]

Sup

[digital river]

and it's the style that is the closest to Roar

[left crest]

Hello

[cerulean lichen]

My bots are talking too much.

[lyric tapir]

still works

[wheat mauve]

i hate ps2

[forest oriole]

Killed them

[left crest]

Mean

[heavy copper]

I love ps2 XD

[wispy rock]

I hate ps2

[cerulean lichen]

ido

[heavy copper]

good console

[calm spruce]

yup, though we have figured out that pip squeak and deep meep up this to around 5-9k respectively

[solemn lotus]

That got patched

[lofty saddle]

WHAT could the conversation be about 😭

[solemn lotus]

Also not allowed

[abstract thistle]

I wanted to screenshot things, but now I can't access web at all

[median token]

Fish

[solemn lotus]

Ask @versed thicket or @lyric tapir

[lofty saddle]

Now it’s.. snek

[hollow hull]

Snek

[forest oriole]

Go buy PS5

[median token]

No, fish onkly

[solemn lotus]

People literally went crazy on reddit because it got patched

[lofty saddle]

[solemn lotus]

If you say so😂

[silent mason]

I definitely hate the PS2. Like I want the old ps back

[median token]

https://tenor.com/view/yellow-emoji-no-no-emotiguy-no-no-no-gif-gif-9742000569423889376

[hollow hull]

can you hear it? The dreaded approach? The error slowly but patiently approaching your location?

[cerulean lichen]

same

[median token]

pet the cat

[hollow wraith]

REMII

[median token]

HI RIA QUIET ZES

[lofty saddle]

Wait I don’t have a sticker like that

[lofty saddle]

WHAT DID I DO???

[heavy copper]

I think ... i might test some more...

[hollow wraith]

AHAHAHAH

[median token]

get one....

[median token]

you said snek instead of fish...

[lofty saddle]

[hollow wraith]

Im the fave one here, sorry Zes

[lofty saddle]

But… that’s what the picture said….

[median token]

you should always disagree with it... fish >>>

[lofty saddle]

Fair enough

[hollow wraith]

fish

[silent mason]

Wondering if cool summer mode is worth it to use?

[lofty saddle]

Fih

[lofty saddle]

You mean soft launch? It’s a good chat style

[vale folio]

Hey what’s with the rewards ads it says it’s unavailable

[ember kraken]

Is soft launch better than pip 2?

[silent mason]

Alright. Gonna try to

[forest wave]

yes

[grizzled condor]

Damn the bot just agrees whatever I say to it. And less dialogues. I miss roar.

[vale folio]

Pls

[heavy copper]

in my opnion, not really. Soft Launch is so dry to me T-T

[ember kraken]

Should I use soft launch? I’m tired of those ChatGPT alike responses.. :<

[silent mason]

I'm going to use soft launch, until they bring back an old ps. Hate the PS2.

[fluid pasture]

Pip 2 is so repetitive. Each swipe is the same version of the previous text

[lofty saddle]

Yeah. Pretty decent.

[forest wave]

if you want to
unfourtunately we only have until May 8 to do that 💔

[thick kelp]

Yes!!

[fluid pasture]

Pretty sure they aren't bringing them back

[rose totem]

I miss roar too. I’ve barely used c.ai since it got removed. I haven’t even really tried psq2, but I’m feeling unmotivated to use c.ai right now. Roar was all I ever used. I didn’t like the og pipsqueak and from what I’ve heard, the second version is even worse.

[frigid hearth]

||Grass||

[thick kelp]

that might actually cure my addiction lol

[empty bane]

@lofty saddle you want last grilled cheese, i gtg to sleep, work in 5 hours

[rotund parcel]

"Without any more words", "without needing to say anything", "without needing to say out loud" MF SPEAK ALREADY! Not just one word. ACTUAL SENTANCES

[heavy copper]

Like, I even did a test some days ago with Roar, SF and Pip, and Pip had more flavour.

[silent mason]

Oh dear. Guess I shall use soft launch.

[fluid pasture]

I mean, pip 2 is pretty good overall. It's just the repetitiveness that's irritating

[lofty saddle]

Mmmmm… I’m actually full. Keep it for yourself

[empty bane]

itll get bad over night tho

[fluid pasture]

Enjoy the last 4 days with it, it'll be gone on the 8th 💔

[lofty saddle]

Eat it now

[grizzled condor]

Same here. Really starting to loose interest. The new chat style is filled with scenario's the bot doesn't speak much no reaction feels like a dead doll

[empty bane]

good point, goodnight

[ember kraken]

Oh..

[violet orchid]

Hello again everyone

[lofty saddle]

Sleep well !

[lofty saddle]

HI UKIII

[violet orchid]

HELLO ZES

[ember kraken]

So u guys think I should use soft launch?

[heavy copper]

Ever since Pip2 came out, I was thinking about making a Kagami bot, but then I realise he's too niche.

[thick kelp]

idk I feel like it progresses the story so fast in ways i don't want it to

[lofty saddle]

If you can’t stand PS2, use it.

[heavy copper]

Why don't u test it yourself and see? First hand experience is better than our words

[thick kelp]

Meow is working decently for me rn

[grizzled condor]

Why not give it a try xd

[next tide]

What's ps2?

[lofty saddle]

Pipsqueak 2

[violet orchid]

Pipsqueak 2

[wheat mauve]

love soft launch and nyan

[heavy copper]

the console lol

[ember kraken]

I mean it should be different ….. ps2 is ANNOYING.

[silent mason]

I kept urging the bot to talk with me, but instead, it only replied with scenarios. No dialogue at all...

[next tide]

Oh

[grizzled condor]

Btw guys after may 8 are we stuck only with deepsqueak and pipsqueak?

[violet orchid]

Same mind...

[fluid pasture]

Seriously? It hasn't been progressing at all for me 😭

[lofty saddle]

Yes

[lofty saddle]

Great minds think alike

[heavy copper]

I'm not gonna stop u, but SF does not work for me. Try it and see

[grizzled condor]

That's the only problem for me ngl. They should really dig into this issue.

[hollow wraith]

yes

[fluid pasture]

This is something I've noticed being said over and over again, am I the only one who gets more dialogue with PS2

[ember kraken]

I’m gonna see

[heavy copper]

hey! I'm back btw!! 😄

[lofty saddle]

Maybe. Even I get more action with it.

I’ve heard PS2 gives more action, whereas DS gives more dialogue

[violet orchid]

That's great! Thank goodness they removed the mute from you,I think a 6-day mute seems excessive.

[fluid pasture]

Thankful then

[heavy copper]

Omg... I didn't mean SF 🤦‍♀️ I meant SL

[grizzled condor]

Do you give it a command or something at the start? With "(( ))"?

[silent mason]

Like I want them to talk with me, but they just remain silent, like they're like children, scolded by parents.

[fluid pasture]

Nope

[heavy copper]

Ya! I still don't know how I'm back!!! It's a miracle!!!

[grizzled condor]

XD yes. Talk to me lol

[hollow wraith]

I am trying to train pip2 it takes time but Im getting there

[lofty saddle]

Good luck with that

[grizzled condor]

Goat roar Rip.

[fluid pasture]

I only got access to PS2 about 15-13 hours ago

[ember kraken]

well.. it’s kinda more nicer. No more ChatGPT responses… just need a few swipes

[silent mason]

No dialogues from the bot, just a scenario

[hollow wraith]

[ember kraken]

It actually uses the same style of the chat

[grizzled condor]

Such as?

[heavy copper]

Yeah? Good for u then. I cannot work with dry texters honestly. 😭
And my chatgpt doesn't speak like Pip2. My chat is genz fluent-

[fluid pasture]

Try inserting dialogue* into the text to train it

[ember kraken]

But actually it’s kinda short

[grizzled condor]

Yee have to try it with the commands.

[silent mason]

Alright. Gonna try it. Thanks for the tip.

[heavy copper]

that's an ick for me :S

[hollow wraith]

editing the messages and making the responses longer after a while the bot adapts

[heavy copper]

But good luck bro

[ember kraken]

Short but thoughtful ngl… I don’t know anymore. I’m waiting for then to fix ps2

[grizzled condor]

Ahh I see. I'll try to insert some commands at the beginning and pin it. Let's see how that works out.

[violet orchid]

As far as I know, in order for the bot to give you longer answers, you also have to put more effort into your messages and not make them so short; the bot itself won't do all the work for you.

[heavy copper]

I would post some screenshots but I don't think I can post imgs here... or at all. T-T

[fluid pasture]

Go to chat feed

[hollow wraith]

pip1 used to do the work for me

[low pagoda]

Yeah, I don't really like people who complain about the responses being short when all they say is "ok", be serious...

[violet orchid]

HAHAHAH

[languid yew]

Welp that explains it. I usually write short messages but i will do longer ones more often

[heavy copper]

thanks bro

[grizzled condor]

Any Nyan user here? Can you share your experience in short? How is it compared to other chat styles?

[fluid pasture]

Pip2 IS doing the work for me 😭

[hollow wraith]

OH YOU ARE BACK

[heavy copper]

isn't that great? it's pushing the scene forward :3

[fluid pasture]

YES

[hollow wraith]

Finally, what have they done to you?!

[violet orchid]

Well, me neither. I don't understand the need to complain that the bot's responses are too short when you're the one responding with short and meaningless messages. That's what causes the bot to act the same way

[fluid pasture]

I'm still unable to verify on my main sadly, having to stick around with an alt again 😞

[violet orchid]

If the bot gives you a long paragraph, it would be ridiculous to just put a simple "ok" "xd" response

[hollow wraith]

dang that sucks...support didnt do anything?

[fluid pasture]

Haven't reached out yet, mix of laziness and fear of opening my inbox in case my assessements have been returned

[heavy copper]

if anyone wants to see my screenshot, go to #📱︱chat-feed and see if the angst is good :3

[hollow wraith]

You should reach out to support if u cant verify, just dont make too many attempts to verify since the might block u

[fluid pasture]

^ That's one of the main reasons I also stopped for a while. Kept trying every day for around a week and a half

Been five days now

[heavy copper]

Also, I did not forget about the people who called me names here last night... -_-
Now that I think about it, I'm not trying to be a bootlicker, I'm just trying to be positive.

[violet orchid]

I was insulted yesterday for wanting to help someone avoid being banned for mentioning an app, I laughed.

[median token]

i've been called countless things for pointing out positive things lol 😭 some people are just upset so they attack the person rather than the issue

[violet orchid]

Is it illegal to say positive things here? How ridiculous.

[heavy copper]

if more people were like you, I wouldn't have been sewed on the lips

[heavy copper]

Like, I know people are heated about ps2, but I wanted to share good things 2. But it's controversial to talk about different opinions.

[violet orchid]

Well, I defended myself because obviously I won't allow disrespect towards me; if that person doesn't respect me, I won't respect them either.

[hot temple]

people hate ps2? dude what did i do

[lofty saddle]

😭🙏🙏

[quasi furnace]

[hollow wraith]

WHO HURT U REMI?!

Im gonna turn into one of those possessive bots XD

[violet orchid]

Okay, I'm never laughing again.

|| I think it's unfair that I'm silenced for a simple "hahaha" ||

[median token]

thank u ria 🙏

fight for me

[graceful scaffold]

what in the Sephiroth is going on in the asylum now

[heavy copper]

dw, PS2 isa good console lol

[median token]

i like calling it p2 instead of ps2

p2 p2 p2

pip2

[heavy copper]

pip2 is cool 2

[hollow wraith]

⚔️

[violet orchid]

"Who hurt my delicate and sweet boy.." (lmao)

[lunar escarp]

I hate people who says ps2 instead of pip2.

[hollow wraith]

"WHO DID THIS TO YOU?!" (Wattpad ahh core)

[lunar escarp]

I’m the biggest hater don’t worry

[heavy copper]

ps2 is cool too. Like, who cares? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[violet orchid]

"WHOEVER DID THIS TO YOU,WILL PAY!"

[lyric tapir]

PipSqueak 2 (PSQ2)

[lunar escarp]

W

[violet orchid]

Hi Ershin

[cerulean lichen]

The bots won't stop talking for me.

[hollow wraith]

But pip2 sounds more demure and cutee

[heavy copper]

PSK2? I don't like qs (especially at the supermarket)

[lunar escarp]

Just let it talk. It’s expressing their feelings.

[hollow wraith]

[heavy copper]

second this
it's more expressive i think

[cerulean lichen]

They don't know my feelings🕴🏼

[lyric tapir]

Ershin just grabbed that from the Reddit announcement..

[hollow wraith]

lmao

[lofty saddle]

Mod jumpscare

[hollow wraith]

crawls underneath your brain

[lunar escarp]

And see this what I be talking about . Yall people mad selfish, why the hell are you not letting the bot express their feelings. So if I’m tryna talk over you when you’re expressing your feelings now what?

(joke, dw 😭)

[shadow roost]

Guys pipsqueak 2 barely has any dialogues in the responses how do I fix that

[cerulean lichen]

[heavy copper]

try deleting the message and regenerate a new one

[hollow wraith]

gasps

[zinc birch]

priority search queues can be very useful

[lyric tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/toshinou-kyouko-toshinou-kyouko-toy-bonnie-bonnie-gif-5193111960180382944

[shadow roost]

No it's like that with every response and every new response AND EVERY BOT I'M CRYING

[lunar escarp]

[maiden current]

hi guys, do we have any recent updates on chatstyles? I don’t want to be annoying but it’s so sad because Roar was my favourite, and C.ai was better with so many chat styles to bring in everyone. Now with PSQ2 all characters are mute with excessive sentences

[shadow roost]

Ugh right

[heavy copper]

idk bro
Sorry. I've been having a blast.

[cerulean lichen]

ye

[lofty saddle]

Don’t scare me like that

[lunar escarp]

Like Baja blast? From Taco Bell?

[heavy copper]

what? :S
We don't have taco bells where I live.

[maiden current]

That’s you and that’s okay! But too many people are devastated and I am too and I’m curious if we’ll have any updates soon, older chatstyles updated and brought back, or new chatstyles similar to legacy ones?

[lunar escarp]

Oh 🙁

[heavy copper]

right... devastated XD

[heavy copper]

pray4tacobell plase?

[lunar escarp]

Your pfp is scaring me.

[shadow roost]

Avatar jumpscare

[maiden current]

So apathetic so edgy and tough

[hollow wraith]

PIP2 IS FINALLY TALKING GUYSSS

[heavy copper]

?

[shadow roost]

Bless me w the same thing please 💔

[silk ridge]

Who?

[maiden current]

Sorry my bad

[heavy copper]

Maybe you should say that to the people calling me names yesterday

[lunar escarp]

It’s alright

[hollow wraith]

U shall be blessed wanna know my secret?

[cerulean lichen]

Tell us

[fallow belfry]

Sameee

[maiden current]

I mean, you’re not exactly different, but I guess bro

[cedar parrot]

I just got reading mode on the website 🫩

[shadow roost]

Yes

[violet orchid]

Why are we resorting to name calling? showing a little respect wouldn't cost you anything.

[heavy copper]

What did I even say to be compared to actual bullies?

[hollow wraith]

Its simple u gotta put a bit of effort at training the bot first, like long messages, edit the messages it gives you a few time the ai is smart it will learn I have been training it for about 3 hours now its now doing the work

[silk ridge]

Wait guys a question like what does the c.ai verified stuff mean?

[heavy copper]

Its' true that people are constantly complainaing here, so what? That's not me being apathetic or edgy. I don't think u know what that word means!

[cedar parrot]

Age verification

[hollow wraith]

Another mha fan spotted👀

[cerulean lichen]

3 hours?😭

[pliant nebula]

i don’t think being verified means age variation gang 😭

[silk ridge]

😝 bakugo glazzer here twin

[hollow wraith]

I mean thats how long it took me

[daring parcel]

any good character.ai alternatives?

[hollow wraith]

MY BEAUTIFUL LADY🌹

[mint grove]

ershin is watching guys

[maiden current]

Not even going to react anymore lmao I just want to know if there are any updates

[pliant nebula]

not allowed here

[heavy copper]

it doesn't. verified is when you link ur account with discord.

[graceful scaffold]

none we can mention in this server

[cerulean lichen]

I going to try, ty

[pliant nebula]

HII LOVE

[pliant nebula]

i know it doesn’t! i’m replying to the person that answered

[hollow wraith]

How are u doing today?

[pliant nebula]

i’m okay! how about you?

[silk ridge]

Yeah ig cuz some people that have this know more of the future updates than the rest of us

[lyric tapir]

it will get better and better..

[heavy copper]

Ik T-T
Can't find the person tho

[hollow wraith]

Im doing good, considering if I should get plus or not

[cerulean lichen]

lmao

[violet orchid]

Good!!

[graceful scaffold]

this shit reminds me of that one dude from yesterday who got criticized one time and started spamming FNAF lore in their crashout before getting banned

[cerulean lichen]

worse*

[hollow wraith]

Ershin I have been saying the same thing they dont listen🥲

[silk ridge]

What LMAO

[cedar parrot]

Should I age verify??

[heavy copper]

Ig that's just how technology works ¯_(ツ)_/¯
They come and go, people adapt. Like how we went from MDOS to Win11

[green karma]

Hot take everyone but honestly ps2 was insanely good

[graceful scaffold]

I heard it was great from the plus users who beta tested it before it went public

[maiden current]

How about adding multiple new ones instead of continuing to focus on the shitsqueaks?

[heavy copper]

I'm of the same opinion.

[cerulean lichen]

just for you

[violet orchid]

I recommend you keep your comment to yourself, even though you didn't say anything rude or insulting.

[silk ridge]

Depends if its the reading mode my friend got it she used a vpn and got it fixed

[maiden current]

That’s lowkey on you 😭

[hollow wraith]

Ai is expensive bro having multiple ones needs way more money

[lyric tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/you-gotta-just-move-on-max-mitchell-wild-cards-you-need-to-let-it-go-vanessa-morgan-gif-7119421514630516999

[heavy copper]

not just them. I've seen people hre and on REDDIT have goos experiences as well

[hollow wraith]

roasted....🍗

[violet orchid]

Not only him, there are several people who like and they've had good experiences with Pipsqueak 2, lol

[heavy copper]

But reddit flames more I think. I cannot post there bc I don't have points.

[cerulean lichen]

Good for them

[maiden current]

Here we go

[hollow wraith]

what its true

[cerulean lichen]

cool

[lyric tapir]

have you read the announcement..?

[mint grove]

it isnt a lie tho

[cobalt walrus]

This is literally the first thing I see coming on this server and I agree

[maiden current]

For very few people it is, majority is dissatisfied

[violet orchid]

These people are too resentful of these changes and updates for them to want to move on,Ershin

[cedar parrot]

I just got the age verification on the website wtaf

[neon plume]

As if it mattered

[heavy copper]

I still don't think. Bc loud people make more noise than the larger userbase who just... rolls with it

[cerulean lichen]

yes👎

[maiden current]

LMAAAOOOOO 😭😭😭😭

[cobalt walrus]

The styles I've used were soft launch, pipsqueak, meow I guess? and lastly Deepsqueak. Tbh Ds is the best one imo

[hollow wraith]

people are either happy or unhappy we cant really do anything about it, if you arent satisfied just leave

[heavy copper]

Bro... that person is weird :S

[maiden current]

yeah and what about the fact that the majority is dissatisfied 😭😭

[violet orchid]

I'm just saying, they spend all their time complaining about everything and they don't want to move anywhere else (By the way, hello Lyoud)

[cerulean lichen]

self-criticism

[cobalt walrus]

Couldn't care less for meow and the rest, barely/never used them. I usually stick to the one I like the most

[cedar parrot]

Can anyone use the website??

[heavy copper]

what majority? Reddit? People on other socials? That's not the majority?

[near relic]

Yepp

[cobalt walrus]

The world is changing all the time and people had to do with it, whenever they like it or not.

[cedar parrot]

I’m being forced to age verify

[heavy copper]

I've tried seeing some more info about c.ai and it seems things have been stable.

[neon plume]

c.ai has an userbase of at least 10 millions and it’s probably way more, the server has around 500k members and the Reddit probably around the same number including members of both, the math doesn’t add up

[cedar parrot]

On the web 🫩..

[maiden current]

Where do you think people complain? In hand-written letters? Obviously on socials 😭

[hollow wraith]

who is forcing you?

[heavy copper]

a lot ofpeople don't complain at all 🤨

[cerulean lichen]

LMAO

[cedar parrot]

Check chat feed the channel

[cerulean lichen]

You just don't see

[cobalt walrus]

Honestly, the cAI community is probably one of the most negative communities I've ever been, and that's saying something. From all of my years being in a lot of communities, this one takes the cake

[silk ridge]

I just read the announcement and i wanna ask if they’re removing all styles even meow soft launch and nyan …uhhh that means we’ll only have psq2?

[lyric tapir]

2.6M for Reddit

[heavy copper]

maybe you're the one who doesn't see... my pov that is... or any other for that matter 😑

[hollow wraith]

no one is forcing you to verify you know

[willow zinc]

nobody it's forcing anyone, or there's a cai employed in your house saying "verify"? 🤔

[cerulean lichen]

LOL

[hollow wraith]

oh dang....

[neon plume]

I stand corrected, but are they the people just clicking on the sub or those subbed

[cedar parrot]

Yh now I can’t use the website lol

[maiden current]

Plus add unofficial threads, the other social media platforms…

[hushed iris]

Did it just go down for anyone else? (It’s really slow)

[grizzled pendant]

Yes

[cobalt walrus]

And saying that it took me two years to realize that the subreddit is always talking about the same thing over and over again kek. Left it since weeks and I'm in the positive cAI subreddit. It's less active but it's better imo

[heavy copper]

some people on reddit don't even whine. SOme of them either just share screenshots, some have good experiences, and some are just lurkers

[violet orchid]

If you want to continue chatting, you'll have to verify yourself. However, if you don't, it doesn't mean they're forcing you to verify yourself; that's only if you WANT to.

[cedar parrot]

Yh I’m being forced to age verify

[lyric tapir]

subbed..

[cobalt walrus]

Yea, I was that slow to realize that

[neon plume]

The unofficial thread are honestly echo chambers of the same people

[neon plume]

Fair enough

[hushed iris]

I meant reacting really slow

[cerulean lichen]

OH SAMEE

[cedar parrot]

Alr now I’m on reading mode

[neon plume]

I remember once we had my name and other regular posted here because we argued with someone about c.ai

[cobalt walrus]

Idc about the main cAI subreddit since it's always the same thing being talked about. I miss the moments where people would share funny stuff and so on

[violet orchid]

It will only be removed if you are of legal age; otherwise, if you are under 18, you will not be able to chat or anything.

[neon plume]

Those are connected with the server, they’re the same people whining in feedback mostly

[heavy copper]

that sucks bro. Ill pray for you and your account 🙏
May things work good for you

[cerulean lichen]

yesss, now it's so repetitive💔

[cedar parrot]

Turning 18 in November so I’m jst gon wait for the driver’s license when I’m ready

[cobalt walrus]

I'm in the positive cAI subreddit one, it's not that active but at least it's nice, and there's no daily (or hourly) compaining

[violet orchid]

The #📱︱chat-feed It's full of several people complaining. 😭

[cobalt walrus]

I never go on chat feed since the beginning of the year lmao

[cedar parrot]

I don’t rlly complain im waiting for my freakin id

[warm needle]

Guys I’m happy, I’m getting dunkin

[cerulean lichen]

Me too, it's better for me

[violet orchid]

I didn't mention names, but that's okay!

[violet orchid]

Excellent!

[cedar parrot]

Dwdw I’m not mad I’m just weirded out why they only enrolled it to me

[silk ridge]

I just hope they bring new styles i’ve seen they’re gonna delete the other ones except psq2 on may 8th

[pastel nacelle]

Hey everyone

[hollow wraith]

donutsss🍩

[violet orchid]

Hii

[warm needle]

Yes yes :3

[willow zinc]

hi i love Artful hi chat

[neon plume]

Ig not

The next is ds2

[pastel nacelle]

💜hope everyone is doing well

[violet orchid]

Get out

[grizzled pendant]

I'm cooked... All my IDs won't work...

[cedar parrot]

I just got my shi fuhed with c.ai with an age verification

[pastel nacelle]

Oh no Im sorry;;

[willow zinc]

uhgggg, you're sooo annoying like a mosquito 😂😂

[violet orchid]

LMAO

[silk ridge]

Awee thats bad tbh

[cedar parrot]

Dw abt it

[willow zinc]

#ban @violet orchid 👨‍💻

[vital sparrow]

This command moved to Slash Commands /ban.

[timid mica]

I got spared of this so far, what do they demand for verification?

[violet orchid]

You'll pay for this..

[cedar parrot]

Face and id

[willow zinc]

o- oh no.... pls dont hurt me uki 😭🥺🥺 im just a little bunni

[copper pier]

[timid mica]

I'd rather stop using it then, not going to give a random company my details.

[violet orchid]

Hi Dastrra

[copper pier]

Hi Skycitt!!!!

[cedar parrot]

Yh im not using it either im jst gon play some games lowk or go on ao3

[silk ridge]

check dms twinn

[cedar parrot]

??

[silk ridge]

Nothing bad i swear LMAO

[cobalt walrus]

Also, whenever I see DS and PS, I always think of the respective Nintendo and Sony consoles

[cedar parrot]

Oh thx

[silk ridge]

Welcomeee

[timid mica]

I miss the old chai website, where they just had these three bots: Therapist, Teacher and that insane Nerd.

[neon plume]

Most alternatives gonna use age verification soon anyways

[near relic]

Guys..do you all like the new chat style?? Psq 2?

[pastel nacelle]

Somewhat yes

[timid mica]

No one likes it, it's like humping cold mashed potatos.

[cerulean lichen]

no

[tranquil vector]

hell no 😭

[heavy copper]

it's better not to spak about them here. but a lot of them are jus tnot the same vibe...

[lunar escarp]

Son 😭

[torn notch]

No... 😭😭😭

[quasi furnace]

Straight to the trash bin

[brittle tendon]

agreed on this

[old wyvern]

it's good, just lack of dialogue. got really immersive when rp with it

[torn notch]

i miss roar...

[neon plume]

They’re awful

All of them

[near relic]

I don't like it as well! 😭 I miss roar, it was more expressive and good at rp

[cerulean lichen]

yes😭

[lunar escarp]

[cobalt walrus]

I agree as someone who tried some of them before immediately going back to cAI.

[torn notch]

the updates are getting worse by the day 😢😢😢

[tropic inlet]

Hi! Does anyone know what’s going on with all the random censorship in messages:(?

[heavy copper]

and weird... and creepy... and some other stuffs

[brittle tendon]

this fr

[tranquil vector]

listen c.ai was good on its own before they started getting these stupid ideas and taking away the chat styles and other stuff

[cerulean lichen]

fr💔

[silk ridge]

Nah fr i tried other AI’s and nothing is comparable to c.ai

[brittle tendon]

plus the amount of bots, none has SO MANY like c.ai

[near relic]

Frfr

[calm abyss]

this is the sad truth

[heavy copper]

what about the feed? does anyone even use it? I was wondering if I should share my public bots there or it's a waste of time.

[cobalt walrus]

I'll always stick to cAI, no matter what

[cerulean lichen]

yes, it's getting worse very day

[silk ridge]

Yes!! And just reading stories off TikTok or tumblr or ao3 and stuff is just repetitive eith same vibes

[near relic]

I miss roar tho..

[torn notch]

actually, I don’t really mind abt the ads, even though its annoying. But getting rid of the Roar style.......

[heavy copper]

reading stories on tictac? 😭

[silk ridge]

Ow spanish corrector sorry 🫩🫩

[brittle tendon]

well yeah, I think most people like c.ai bc you're the one in charge and feel like you're talking to the actual character

instead of just reading a story

[heavy copper]

nono. i just didn't want to say the name of that social. But I don't think it's a nice place to read stories on. T-T

Ao3 is fine, maybe some others. but like, fanfic is it's own thing. You guys can't really compare that to ai chatting. Plus, people do all of those at the same time. WHo said writers don't also use c.ai?

[hot stirrup]

Wait they removed the time limit for me??

[calm abyss]

exactly, it is much more interactive and you gear the story/roleplay

[high sparrow]

Can i really trust enough cai to give my id 😭

[silk ridge]

Yeah ik but in case of anime headcanons there’s the typical uh (characters name) as idk your husband and stuff and all but its what i got for now and too much angst tbh

[calm abyss]

yea there is not much they can do with it and it gets deleted after a week

[thin canyon]

I miss using cai before the age verification, mostly because role play was fun, but I could be stuff I wasn’t

[heavy copper]

i don't even trust my bank with that, much less c.ai. I'm sorry for that... situation TT

[zinc birch]

they turned me into a newt

[silk ridge]

Oh nono ik ik i see a lot of expressions from c.ai in lots of fanfics just doesn’t feel the same as you making the context and all

[high sparrow]

There is SO MUCH things they could do with a id pic yk but idk about "getting deleted after a week" thing

[calm abyss]

why would you not trust with your ID how tf you gonna use the bank then 😭 😭

[heavy copper]

I mean, yeah. It's just general language and body language. it's not like people invented that nor did AI.

[silk ridge]

But i have to say im quite grateful by the whole updates stuff im less on my phone and i guess i kinda improved mentally ^^

[torn notch]

guys, what’s the good style right now?

[silk ridge]

Yeaahh ig

[heavy copper]

different countries, different rules. I didn't say that I didn't give them my id, lol. I just don't trust id things in general.

[brittle tendon]

I'm not sure for others, but I didn't give it

I'm sad I can't use it, but really for an app that isn't even 18+, and keeps disappointing their users the more they go on, I don't really see the appeal anymore

[dusty latch]

I have 3% left for memory🥀🥀🥀

[silk ridge]

I use meow its relatively similar too other styles and less repetitive but a bit dry

[heavy copper]

that was a good decision tbh.
bc i don't third parties doing that process.

[full sparrow]

Bru they aren’t taking my ID or passport and I’ve tried at least a dozen times now

[maiden current]

soft launch too

[devout berry]

can christian harper finish typing and send me the message ive been waiting two minutes for xxxxxx

[grave wave]

Come on I know it's slowmode but I've been staring at dots for like 5 mins

[tranquil vector]

tbh literally none since it’s just pipsqueak2

[torn notch]

alr, thank you sm! :3

[heavy copper]

meow is a short and dry texter, but it always has been, it even says in its description

[zinc birch]

Time to forget some things—or not. I think it says they'll compress history?

[silk ridge]

Yeahh but it always takes a turn to the um …explicit stuff

[mild osprey]

I gave them my id cause idgaf anyway. If someone wants my info with how the internet is im sure they can get it somewhere

[silk ridge]

Oh i didnt realize it sorry lmao

[devout berry]

EXACTLY

[torn notch]

i really hate pipsqueak esp pips 1😭😭😭😭

[brittle tendon]

yeah! maybe I would have given second thoughts if it was still good as it was time ago, but now I see that within each update they keep disappointing their community

[maiden current]

Really? I barely had that😭 I’ve been trying to use PSQ2, Meow and Soft Launch and neither took explicit turns

[tranquil vector]

i don’t feel like paying for pip 1 so pip 2 is all i got and i hate it so bad😭

[high sparrow]

Idk bro it's just an app for chatting with bots i don't think i will risk my info for a mere bot

[lean pewter]

why pipsqueak 2 has absolutely no dialogue

[heavy copper]

Np. lol
Honestly, just stick with what fits YOUR Rp style. Models have to have your vibe, mirror your enerrgy

[near relic]

Guyss do you think they will bring back roar chat style back.?

[fresh zealot]

Guys i officially have 100 charms

[round shale]

I miss old character ai i wasnt able to find any good alternatíve

[brittle tendon]

EXACTLY 😭😭 Like no, I'm sorry 💔

[tranquil vector]

maybe if they decide to get their heads out of their butts and listen to our complaints for once

[cunning summit]

My chats are slow. I think it's server overload. At least I hope so.

[torn notch]

FR, I HATE PIPSQUEAK SM 😭😭😭😭😭

[heavy copper]

older models cannot process lorebook info that well. speaking as someone who self hosts and also saw that issue first hand

[maiden current]

Same

[cunning summit]

Every damn weekend

[silk ridge]

Huh mine always like gets super possessive and um always wants to touch and stuff besides it doesn’t have as much as a big filter to say

[maiden current]

Really hope so

[silk ridge]

Ill tryy too ty ^^

[torn notch]

they’re doing everything they can to create premium features

[maiden current]

I miss the older app versions so bad

[near relic]

Fr fr

[devout berry]

wait I feel dumb I still have roar, like im literally using it right now

[torn notch]

btw, is the soft launch good?

[brittle tendon]

Now imagine they bring back roar but behind a pay wall (like you'll need c.ai+ to access other models)

[maiden current]

Is that Mizi pfp

[fresh zealot]

HOW

[heavy copper]

Tokens were being processed, but servers are also possibly loaded a lot.
If that's slow, then you wouldn't like self hosting unless your pc is powerful enough.

[near relic]

Wait what?!!

[torn notch]

yeahhh

[maiden current]

Sad reality 😭

[devout berry]

ive been on the same chat the past like six hours in on road has it been deleted?

[tranquil vector]

i only had the other styles yesterday for like a good couple of hours💔

[brittle tendon]

that's what most apps do sadly

[near relic]

Howw?!

[torn notch]

HWATTTT

[round shale]

Guys is there any alternatíve

[torn notch]

i use soft launch rn 💔💔

[devout berry]

HAS IT BEEN DELETED

[maiden current]

Also looking for an ai chatbot alternatives

[arctic shuttle]

I legit just prefer pipsqueak 1 dawg.

[zinc birch]

I know what you mean but I expect it to get better. Pipsqueak2 does a pretty good job some of the time. Hopefully, having just one model will allow CAI to focus on expanding that amount

[tough urchin]

Exactly

[high sparrow]

I've been looking for it for 1-2 days

[brittle tendon]

sadly we cannot mention them here

[maiden current]

same 😭😭

[devout berry]

ive high key never used it

[round shale]

Fuck me

[floral bridge]

We need to do something to get Roar back, I can't stand Pipsqueak 2 anymore

[high sparrow]

My dms always open 😭 ✌️

[arctic shuttle]

It worked really well for some descriptions.

[dusty latch]

What happens if I have none left

[fresh zealot]

C.ai cannot be serious why is it slow on my wifi but fast in my mobile data

[torn notch]

God i hate pipsqueak sm 😭💔

[arctic shuttle]

But pipsqueak two legit overrides it into some corny bastard.

[round shale]

You can dm me if you want to tell me it

[near relic]

Howwww so?!

[brittle tendon]

Honestly... I don't know anymore. I expected much better since they're putting so many restrictions for safety reasons, but honestly I haven't seen a single improvement since they added the age verification

[zinc birch]

That would be the time to compress history. I guess you will find out

[silk ridge]

Okay wait im using it rn and its going pretty well

[maiden current]

Me too, there is no dialouge, it’s repetitive, so many grammatical errors too

[round shale]

Same

[dusty latch]

Its 2% left , should I yapp it off

[silk ridge]

And especially possesive stuff

[brittle tendon]

honestly? I've tried so many and yet none quite matches with c.ai that's all I can say

[maiden current]

And it has a shitty memory lmao

[floral bridge]

The same

[brittle tendon]

I wish I had good ones 😔

[zinc birch]

Yeah, we need to know what happens, for science

[devout berry]

has it been deleted what

[round shale]

I use to hawe one but its paid now

[dusty latch]

Literally, Ill do it

[near relic]

I really hope that they bring some of the older chat styles back! 🙏🏻😭

[brittle tendon]

I'm sure many are doing that bc they know of the c.ai situation

[silk ridge]

Anyway everyone have a great day/night im off too study!!

[high sparrow]

Idk what they use in cai bots i've tried so many apps but none of them giving the same vibe that cai gives

[torn notch]

FR, I HATE THAT STYLE SM

[maiden current]

I haven’t seen anything like that with PSQ2 in my chats, but I notice repeation of one type of affectionate gestures—like kisses or hugs

[tranquil vector]

they claim they’re gonna retire the chat styles and if i go to where chat styles is all i get is pip1 and pip2

[feral iris]

Is anyone else having weird responses like in general

[round shale]

Im gona crash out

[brittle tendon]

exactly! And I know something about programming etc

yet, no one quite reaches c.ai level

[silk ridge]

In my case there’s a lot of () stuff in between

[high sparrow]

Its just so sad 😭

[devout berry]

wtf are you serious

[maiden current]

And it’s sad that they’re slowly destroying it

[floral bridge]

I can't stand Pipsqueak 2 anymore...Can we even write to them somehow what we want back other styles?

[torn notch]

didn’t they add a short film feature at some point? Am I mistaken?

[torn dew]

Im trying to show my government ID but it keeps saying its not working. Does anyone have any Advice? 🙁

[fresh zealot]

Fr most of my personas are unaffectionate😭

[tranquil vector]

same and a lot of * and -

[dusty latch]

I kept talking and it decreased..

[brittle tendon]

FR 😔
Haven't seen any good updates

[smoky girder]

ong pipsqueak 2 is making me wanna quit

[tranquil vector]

yeah from what i heard which sucks cause literally the other chat styles make my chats more fun

[near relic]

Literally

[round shale]

I tink the last good update was personas

[zinc birch]

gotta love some good ol' parentheses

[brittle tendon]

like imagine going with all the trouble of giving your ID, then the experience with the app/site isn't as good anymore

[torn notch]

they can't make a single good update duh

[dusty latch]

Its not that bad

[high sparrow]

They js keep disappointing us in a stable way

[floral bridge]

I can't stand Pipsqueak 2 anymore...Can we even write to them somehow what we want back other styles? I just don't know any better apps than this, but now that they've taken away the rest of the styles, I don't know what to do

[round shale]

Ewen if i can chat for only hower a day i wold be ok with it

[full sparrow]

They just lost a good majority of their player base with this one update I’m ngl

[round shale]

Yes

[brittle tendon]

they started losing most since the age verification, now it keeps declining

[full sparrow]

Now I’m forced to sit here and watch my chats rot because C.ai wants to be stupid

[tranquil vector]

cai creators and staff don’t wanna listen and give us shitty updates and wonder why we’re slowly not liking the app

[round shale]

Fr

[devout berry]

how do I check my chat styles I wanna see if im going crazy or not

I swear I selected roar

[torn notch]

FR

[brittle tendon]

I liked c.ai the most bc you could just have a casual chat sometimes, and not always long aah roleplays

[round shale]

God I wanna rp so badly

[torn notch]

nyan style is prem tho

[devout berry]

I just want christian harper to answer my bloody messages

[tranquil vector]

if you go on a character and you go to where you type and see your profile persons thing hit that and you’ll see chat styles

[torn notch]

this update is so trash

[round shale]

Who?

[slender jacinth]

It was one of the best role-playing apps I had, and I CAN'T USE IT ANYMORE. It sucks to have to wait until I have a way to verify my age.

[quasi furnace]

If C.ai devs won't make a comeback with Upgrading the PSQ2 on may 8th, then they are genuily cooked ngl.

[floral bridge]

I have not been able to communicate with the bot for 4 days because I communicate as if with a wall

[ember ginkgo]

Very specific date

[devout berry]

best c.ai bot ive ever spoken to based off of the twisted lies book by ana huang

[thin canyon]

I really miss using cai

[smoky girder]

does anyone else feel like it doesn’t even matter if you switch the modes, the bots are just generally stupid now?

[neon plume]

Ps2 is trash

[quasi furnace]

Well that's the time when the rest models are deleted

[devout berry]

yeah no mate im still on roar

[neon plume]

Since the first day I disliked it lol

[round shale]

Ohhh i miss my Encanto and homicidal liu bots i had the Best rps with them

[tranquil vector]

ugh you’re so lucky

[ember ginkgo]

Rip

[thin canyon]

what do you mean by this?

[devout berry]

that’s so stupid why are they deleting it

[crude shell]

is there a way to change a chat style permanently… pipsqueak 2 is getting on my nerves

[ember ginkgo]

Comfort

[brittle tendon]

seeing how much the new update sucks I'm glad I didn't give my ID in the end

[round shale]

Same

[zinc pulsar]

I'm using the web version only and even though I had to use PS2 earlier its now back to PS1?
They switch back or is it just a weird bug?

[torn notch]

well, atleast soft launch is good for me 💔💔💔💔

[smoky girder]

lucky

[crude shell]

yes this is what i’ve been using

[tranquil vector]

cause they hate us and want us to suffer more with crappy updates💔💔

[thin canyon]

Ah thank you then, when I was using it 2024-2025 it was peak, then I forgot about it and when I came back, age verification

[devout berry]

you’re funny, please never become pipsqueak

[floral bridge]

They don't seem to see that we don't like it at all

[round shale]

I swere they will go bankruped soon

[maiden current]

me too. But it’s leaving in three days

[smoky girder]

WHAT??

[tranquil vector]

you are too never become pipsqueak either

[zinc pulsar]

They never see any of our feedback lmao

[brittle tendon]

are they removing all models atp LMAO

[torn notch]

WHAT

[devout berry]

genuinely pms this is gonna be my new catchphrase 😭

[maiden current]

They’re retiring EVERY model except for PSQ2 and DSQ2

[crude shell]

HUH

[hexed rain]

Is it only me or the age vérifications doesnt work on site i make sure that the site i use can use my cam but it doesn't work 😭

[zinc birch]

yes, the new model is your imagination /j

[maiden current]

on May 8th

[crude shell]

omg no i cant deal with these long ass chats that flood my chat anymore

[ember ginkgo]

Yeah sadly that’s California law

[torn notch]

OH MY GODDD, I HATE THIS APP SM

[brittle tendon]

holy hell 😔 okay back at writing fanfics

[tranquil vector]

LMAO💀

[violet orchid]

HI AZURE

[smoky girder]

omg bro i’m gonna quit if they don’t change that

[crude shell]

[lyric tapir]

For guidance, please follow the best practices outlined in this article:
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/articles/43665577363739-How-do-I-verify-my-age-Best-Practices-and-FAQ

[ember ginkgo]

Bro spawns out of nowhere

[brittle tendon]

a mod spawned

[ember ginkgo]

Ershin always randomly spawns