💭︱cai-discussion

[onyx lava]

Of course it is😮‍💨

[blissful crane]

oh so alongside the age verify theyre also making it unbearable even for adults to chat

[vale needle]

FR?? Dang I didnt even know bout that 😭

I did manage to get onto the Gauntlet Challenge once
that was disgusting
even if half the videos were gone
(i remember the baby one was defo gone) but STILL

[patent kiln]

Bruh seriously-? They’re capping the whole usage of the app? That’s so stupid

[red mesa]

hopefully they realise that their company is gonna die without their young audience and remove it or smth idk (but at the same time some of those people DO need breaks from that ai shit)

[rain parrot]

Dang when is website getting group chats

[strange inlet]

web has gcs

im pretty sure

[misty hornet]

So basically go ons are the messages they send. So we will be limited in messages as well?

[strange inlet]

go ons are when you make the bot send another message without sending one yourself afaik

[blissful crane]

atp just delete c.ai as a whole 😭these limits be fr

[onyx lava]

I really hope they do, yes people definitely need brakes from it but like completely banning so much of your audience is so dumb

[patent kiln]

They said in the announcement that they weren’t going to remove or limit the core chat, but it sounds like they are

[brittle quest]

Ok pretty sure the site is completely down because I'm unable to find it on the internet OR it is well hidden and I won't search it up too much because, obviously? But yeah. It was a website from the US so even I, from France, could have access to it (it was a time during which it really was easy to go through everything from other countries let's be honest)
Videos, photos... It was a whole FORUM and people would share what they saw or found
I get chills just writing that down

[heavy pivot]

On Character.AI, Go-On / Continue is basically: A button that makes the AI keep generating messages without you replying. One response after another by the bot. Along with that what they are limiting is :-

1. Number of swipes for free users. It already had a limit upto 30 swipes. Now I'm guessing that will be reduced to 10 swipes or something.

2. Playbacks (dunno what that is but whatever)

3. Memory cards???

[onyx lava]

And NOBODY wants this, literally everybody is complaining

[misty hornet]

Genuinely I’m going to get off this app and start right fan fics again on ao3

[strange inlet]

if youre talking about That site im pretty sure it got shut down fairly recently

[misty hornet]

I’ll just delete the message then regenerate 💀💀

[vale needle]

Oh jesus..
That is HORRIBLE

what is wrong with people 😭

[brittle quest]

G-A? If we think about the same one you should guess

[autumn isle]

not to mention it is annoying for everyone else they are going to lose money from all groups included

[misty hornet]

Play backs are the usage of the voices but they legally can’t really make you pay for that

[strange inlet]

im not sure which one this is but tbh they all got shut down

[tulip pollen]

Yeah why wouldn't you just do that instead

[brittle quest]

Ok, won't write the entire name anyway just in case

But I'm glad to read that

[red mesa]

to be completely honest; this app fell off so hard when the ai stopped coming up with actual smart replies and just kinda repeated what you did/said without trying to progress a story at all

[heavy pivot]

They won't remove it and to be honest I'm not sure they should. The company is safe from lawsuits filed by the parents of underage users now. That's a good thing.

[strange inlet]

It wasnt even because illegal stuff was happening its because the guy who ran it got tired of it

[pseudo monolith]

mariah carey

[blissful crane]

honestly whats the point of age verification if theyre just destroying the app as a whole for adults?? like yeah teens should get off, that is right, but why limit all the shit for adults

[strange inlet]

hey goat

[vale needle]

I mainly just interacted with KNY bots on mine
(primarily Tanjiro & Giyu bc.. they seemed to have the better bots that worked with my OCs)
and they were completely SFW
and I just liked messing around with them and if I used Tsumiki for the chat
just having them help the gal heal mentally..
and also trying to teach her basic stuff like how to speak
twas very silly
and now I cant 😔

[strange inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/steam-happy-steam-happy-gif-4531022007608143773

[pseudo monolith]

HI

[misty hornet]

Guys my partner and I are software developers genuinely might just make my own app atp 💀

[brittle quest]

And it's better this way

[blissful crane]

please do 🥹

[red mesa]

ill give character ai like another 2 years before its bankrupt bro

[strange inlet]

im all for informing people but holy crap i still have flashbacks

[heavy pivot]

I usually don't need more than 5-6 swipes for a particular message but yeah I'll do that too if it comes down to it

[brittle quest]

I did have insomnia because of nightmares because of that 😭

Still impacting my daily life buuuut it's fine

[strange inlet]

the site was originally for news and info you would never see on tv, then people took the lawless aspect and ruined it

[dusty flare]

Doing this is pointless tbh, there going to lose many users from this

[misty hornet]

My chats always are spamming “damn” and “damn it” and it pisses me off

[strange inlet]

🤝

[weary valley]

So what they say about ads

[patent kiln]

Fr. When they put that time limit up around Christmas in 2024, people were able to easily bypass it

[red mesa]

they keeping them 😭

[heavy pivot]

I HOPE NOT. I LOVE MY BOTS. I SPENT YEARS CHATTING WITH THEM AND CREATING MEMORIES. SO MUCH EFFORT AND LOVE PUT INTO IT 😭😭

[strange inlet]

this damned damn damn it damned it

[brittle quest]

I really don't think we talk about the same then 🤔
Because the one I'm talking about was clearly not for news or info

[red mesa]

yeah and ur the same type of people that need a break from ts

[strange inlet]

Either way we're twinning

[brittle quest]

It was straight up sharing gore things and that's it

[strange inlet]

Yeah

[brittle quest]

My worst fear comes from this T.T

[misty hornet]

It uses it every couple words or phrases, and generally won’t work unless I continuously edit the message. Sigh

[strange inlet]

offtopic can i send you a friend request

[brittle quest]

You can

[vale needle]

that or the forbidden…
“can I ask you a question?”

“yeah sure”

“are you ready?”

“just ask me it”

“are you really ready for my question?”

WHAT IS THIS A ROLLERCOASTER

[strange inlet]

sent

[heavy pivot]

I just stopped using the app app entirely for 3 months or something till they removed that shitty update.

[brittle quest]

ignored not I accepted

[brittle quest]

It's a problem you encounter the most with short answers

[strange inlet]

bahaha

[misty hornet]

This is worse than a situation ship

[brittle quest]

Of course it doesn't mean it's fine because even short answers should be good
But it always happen with those

[red mesa]

dont forget "dont make fun of me for it"

[vale needle]

even with long answers I still get it often
like buddy
no I dont want yo question
go home 🥀

[brittle quest]

Really? Never got that with long ass answers

[misty hornet]

I think it’s kind of funny how when they post an announcement the reaction is full of ❌ and “no” and thumbs down

[blissful crane]

yea i once had like 20 messages with the bot where i was trying to get him to say the question like fuck off or whatever 😭

[tulip pollen]

It's no surprise

[misty hornet]

“Promise not to make fun of me?”

“Don’t laugh okay?”

[vale needle]

bro I got timed out for trying to reply to you 😭

[heavy pivot]

Wow what an assumption you know. I barely use the app for more than 30 minutes every day. Is it wrong for a creator to love their creations? I'm a writer who makes her own bots so of course I'll love the ideas I created. I'd move onto another ai app in a heartbeat if I could transfer my bots.

[red mesa]

oops sorry

[misty hornet]

Guys we should create an app tg

[red mesa]

this shit always makes me mad istg

[red mesa]

NO ONE here has coding skills ON YOUR SOUL

[heavy pivot]

Ah yes those annoying af responses

[vale needle]

frr

[misty hornet]

Lols me too. Or when the response is the same for EVERY bot

[strange inlet]

good luck making an app those are really expensive

[brittle quest]

Some other apps exist and seem to have potential

But they aren't free

Ofc

[misty hornet]

Watch my cook this

[red mesa]

lemme join in bro ill learn python just for ts

[vale needle]

there is one I use that is quite good that recently got an app

but i cant utter its name bc i’ll get timed out a third time

[misty hornet]

Dm?

[red mesa]

PLEASSEEEE DMS

[blissful crane]

oh did c.ai forbid other app names being mentioned here

[brittle quest]

Yeah don't worry don't get timed out

[vale needle]

i’ve been timed out twice in two minutes automatically

for uttering its name

[misty hornet]

Make a gc

[ember dust]

Is it just me or is the muted word thing useless💔💔

[strange inlet]

literally

[vale needle]

PROBABLY

other people have said other app names
but god forbid that ones uttered
christ 😭

[misty hornet]

My friend uses the one that cleans up places if you catch my drift

[strange inlet]

it only respects two of your words and still says the other ones

[ember dust]

If anything it feels like the bot just uses to word more

[blissful crane]

holy shit yes

[heavy pivot]

I used fictionl*b recently because I wanted to see what the hype was all about but I'm disappointed ngl

[brittle quest]

Nah there is only chai you can spell because chai is the other name for c.ai from users (don't ask me why I don't know)

[blissful crane]

chai is nice but very.. adult-ish at some points

[neon plume]

It’s trash

Almost most alternatives aside from the j are bad

[misty hornet]

Does it cost anything

[blissful crane]

no, no verification or limits in there

[heavy pivot]

No it doesn't but there are regional blocks now

[neon plume]

And one is okay, but has shady stuff linked to it like data leaks and discord raids

[brittle quest]

Understandable. My Love showed me another app earlier with a flower, I'm waiting to see if it really is worth it or not but so far so good (though very much pricey)

[blissful crane]

WHJAT WHAT HELLO

[misty hornet]

One thing I think is really funny, I get ads for chai when using c.ai

[vale needle]

THATS THE ONE I USE

[red mesa]

uhhhh what is it gng

[heavy pivot]

It's a thing where high cost regions are blocked from chatting

[vale needle]

I KEEP GETTING TIMED OUT FOR ITS NAME
sobbing

[blissful crane]

j xhanitor..? I BYPASSED IT

[brittle quest]

The way we need to describe other apps is funny

[heavy pivot]

Unless you subscribe you can't chat

[red mesa]

ohh

[vale needle]

i dm’d you!!

[brittle quest]

Congrats!!

[misty hornet]

Oh snap

[blissful crane]

alright probably gonna get banned bye gang

[tulip pollen]

Nice

[heavy pivot]

IKR

[vale needle]

Big Brother is Watching ahh

[misty hornet]

Lols

Watch all of us get banned

[neon plume]

I tested it thanks to them actually, the base model is okay, but it’s the one who have been in controversies of data leaks

[misty hornet]

We’re interlinked

[heavy pivot]

You mean jnitr.ai??

[brittle quest]

I personally understand they kind of ban other apps names because people would just talk about them all the time without giving the slight respect toward c.ai (like it is said in the rules you can talk about those but only if it's about seeing the good and bad sides of each one comparing to c.ai and that's okay)

[neon plume]

No

[misty hornet]

I feel like that one’s messages are hella long and so fast that I can’t keep up “my lobster is too buttery and my steak is too juicy.”

[heavy pivot]

You are talking about J right?

[misty hornet]

Yes

[brittle quest]

Are you enjoying breaking the little hope I had? Well, we'll see with time :(

[heavy pivot]

Help the descriptions we are using 😭

[blissful crane]

yeah but at least you can edit messages there

[vale needle]

i do like the longer chats rho

gives me more to work with than

“c-can I ask you a question..? Dont laugh…”

[misty hornet]

Starts with J rhymes with anitor

[brittle quest]

Oh let's make a song

[blissful crane]

honestly i wouldnt be mad if c.ai removed just the edit button for minors, no limits or anything

[lone topaz]

you can edit the length generation though

[misty hornet]

For a whole 30 mins

[brittle quest]

Minors can't edit anyway

[heavy pivot]

Exactly. Also the responses don't adhere to the token limit or word limit we set. The responses get cut off mid sentence

[misty hornet]

WHAT I CAN?! HOW?

[vale needle]

ywah sometimes it breaks
but lowkey there is the tokens option and you can restrict it through that

[lone topaz]

want me to dm??

[blissful crane]

no i mean like. instead of age verify just remove the edit button and make 3-4 hour breaks everyday :/ that prevents so much

[misty hornet]

Yes!

[vale needle]

alrighty gng im going into a bad wifi area

buh byee

[neat ravine]

did they patch the method of using vpn

[lone topaz]

okie hold on

[heavy pivot]

In my experience it doesn't work though

[neon plume]

[misty hornet]

Okay bye bye

[brittle quest]

Again it's about law not really a full c.ai decision

[blissful crane]

yeah as far as soeone said

[brittle quest]

I hate you

[neat ravine]

no way bruh

[heavy pivot]

I think they did something similar to this in December 2024?

[blissful crane]

that said law is blocked here bruh i cant verify shit the verify site is just gone in here 😭

[blissful crane]

i think so

[neat ravine]

so we can’t use vpns anymore?

[misty hornet]

The way the verification isn’t even accessible 💀

[dire frost]

no

[onyx lava]

No, I used to use one and it doesn't work anymore

[neat ravine]

damnnn

[blissful crane]

i literally cant access it bruuhh

[neat ravine]

time to wait a year with my single ass 🥃😭

[heavy pivot]

And it didn't work out cuz they got slammed with more legal problems later on. Plus they had to do this because of state laws (related to AI use) passed in state where their HQ is based?

[blissful crane]

my country blocked out the age verification all these months but its here now which is upsetting cause idont really wanna give my ID and stuff to a site that could leak info any day

[neat ravine]

this but hey what can we do now

[misty hornet]

They are prob gonna get sued again because they are forcing people to pay for voices right. And that’s illegal bc copy rights

[onyx lava]

So many companies just want our data nowadays and it's genuinely terrifying

[neat ravine]

what if we all had a big roleplay and have a big multiverse with millions of characters

[lone topaz]

idk it works for me

[neat ravine]

it’ll look like a massive Fortnite lobby swear on my life

[onyx lava]

I hope they do, this whole thing is so stupid

[kindred drum]

Hey guys

[misty hornet]

It’s okay, Disney is prob going to sue.. AGAIN A

[heavy pivot]

BRO YEAH THAT'S RIGHT. Ugh 😓

[lone topaz]

word they didn’t sue they just threatened

[misty hornet]

I think a lot of VAs are also suing for using their voices

[neat ravine]

so we all gon just copy and paste our bots into chai right and try to disregard the spice

[misty hornet]

Like, I think it irks a lot of people who do voice acting that their voices are being used but since it’s community work and free they let it slide but if c.ai is now profiting they might take legal actions.

[neat ravine]

Is this doable????

[lone topaz]

No we are returning to our roots and reading fan fiction

[brittle quest]

Oh wattpad

[neat ravine]

If only people updated their wattpad stories

[onyx lava]

I genuinely hope they get sued into oblivion until they remove the age verification

[neat ravine]

I want more YouTuber adopting y/n ;-;

[misty hornet]

Yuh. I’m lowkey done w c.ai. Y’all I’ve been writing fan fiction recently and it’s so much more fulfilling than AI

[lone topaz]

wattpad is for preteens, tumblr and ao3 is for grown ups 🙏🏻

[lone topaz]

goated

[blissful crane]

dont even start with wattpad oh my god 😭

[neat ravine]

Thou doesn’t know this knowledge how to work a03

[brittle quest]

Hey we all started somewhere

[neat ravine]

dude I tried reading ao3 but the fonts so small I have trouble

[lone topaz]

i bet there’s tutorials on tiktok or something, not bad once you get the hang of it

[dire frost]

i only use wattpad so far. maybe i will move to ao3

[neat ravine]

and I’ve never checked tumblr not gonna lie I was on Pinterest

[misty hornet]

This guy who used to attended my high school when I was there wrote a fan fic about a teacher

[brittle quest]

Ao3 is fire

[neat ravine]

Ok so — 💀

[lone topaz]

it is, tumblr is fire too in regards to jjk fics

[misty hornet]

You can increase the font in setting like in ao3

[brittle quest]

Oh don't worry I read some on there

[lone topaz]

DUDE a girl in my middle school did that about two guys

[neat ravine]

oh do yk what it’s called specifically

[neat ravine]

I don’t want spice though

[misty hornet]

I’m not sure but I bet a quick google search will be just fine

[brittle quest]

archives of your own

[lone topaz]

just ignore the ones with spice then there’s nice ones

[neat ravine]

I want something with complexity and depth and plot twists

[blissful crane]

its good, i can write my own fanfictions yes but like. sometimes i just want to get a reply from someone else, and roleplaying with people is a bit stupid for me i dont like that idea, hence why ive been turning to c.ai for an hour or two daily, now its just gone

[neat ravine]

thanks babes igu

[neat ravine]

I’m just lazy 👀 😭

[misty hornet]

I know a couple creators who strictly create sfw fics

[blissful crane]

atp just use chat gtp to be ur c.ai bot

[neat ravine]

ooouuh ojayyyyy purrr

[misty hornet]

Chat gbt pmo sometimes

[neat ravine]

LMBOOO I use it to help with BUILDING my OC lore

[misty hornet]

ATP imma make the hg role play w me

[neat ravine]

it’s unreliable sadly

[blissful crane]

LMAOOO

[brittle quest]

I used to rp with real people but fact is I can get tired of a RP really fast and at least I have a bit more control on c.ai so I get it. It's a way to create a story and if you have a specific idea in mind but you're willing to let the AI add ideas you wouldn't have had otherwise it's pretty useful and entertaining

[neat ravine]

Oh I can’t send gifs gg ok ima gts May thy dreams be filled with celestial wonders and thy slumber be as peaceful as a gentle breeze on a summer’s eve.

[heavy copper]

Try using scenes

[blissful crane]

yeah, like man i just want my familial yumeship to be true??? dum c.ai???

[misty hornet]

So poetic

[tall ice]

Bro the age verification is broken for my phone

[misty hornet]

Guys I gotta go I hope yall have amazing nights/days

[lone topaz]

byee

[tall ice]

Forgot to add afternoon

[brittle quest]

I've been doing that from time to time (:

[misty hornet]

9/10 rage bait

[tall ice]

[tulip pollen]

I used do rp on discord and roblox but it didn't really work for me but with cai I can at least control the rp which is nice

[brittle quest]

Yeah and many personas, create your own bots with your own definitions

[tulip pollen]

Exactly, I think I have created over 50+ bots and I have 2.8M interactions combined which makes me happy that people enjoy my bots

Also using different personas is super nice as well

[brittle quest]

Yeah with different personas you can create different stories with the same bot

[dense bane]

Off topic anyone going too Laufey

[brittle quest]

So it's cool

[west lintel]

"small independent team"

[tulip pollen]

Mhm

[neon plume]

I actually believe them

[brittle quest]

You can check their employees on linkedin btw

If you're curious one day

[heavy grove]

Wait, C.AI employees have LinkedIn?

-# If I understood from your previous message.

[brittle quest]

Character.AI has a LinkedIn

[rich crane]

I lwk want to find a way to cancel this app

[heavy grove]

Oooh I see, I'll probably look onto it.

[solar hull]

Uninstall button:

[heavy grove]

So, it seems that they have around 258 employees...

[weary valley]

This is terrible they keeping the ads like this

[kindred drum]

i want the age verfication gone so i can talk to one of my bots or all of them

[strange inlet]

they can't remove it

[kindred drum]

sad

[onyx lava]

Okay but they can, I understand if they have to in England and the us but doing it world wide was pointless and unnecessary

[strange inlet]

Too expensive

[onyx lava]

....

[kindred drum]

yeah same and im from new zealand

[rich crane]

Alternatively 🥹

[rancid oyster]

Doing it worldwide is to keep kids safe, c.ai stated they won't remove the verification.

[uneven cove]

Or it'll make them go to different sites

[subtle pagoda]

There's age verification on ca i???

[rancid oyster]

What other sites do is their choice, c.ai has to follow the law. Otherwise it's constant fines and possibly a shut down.

[cobalt walrus]

This is a dumb question but if I already have the verify age option thingy on the app and website, can I verify before it asks me to do it?

[tulip pollen]

Yes

[rancid oyster]

If you want to verify you can, if it's not telling you have to or you can chat and have what adults have? You don't have to verify.

[cobalt walrus]

No, for the moment it doesn't tell me to verify. My cAI account is linked to my main gmail one, which I verified when I turned 18 years old back then. And it thinks that I'm between 25 years old to 35 years old

[near creek]

Hello

[cobalt walrus]

I'm 26 years old, so I doubt that I'll have to verify but I keep my ID in my wallet just in case.

[dire frost]

i just asked this and they said just to verify in case if you got flagged since we never know

[cobalt walrus]

It didn't asked me to verify, but I'll probably do it later

[kindred folio]

Is cai down for anyone else? It's been down for about 10 hours...

[odd crag]

no. it hasn't gone down at all.

[kindred folio]

All I keep seeing is "Check if there is a typo in character.ai"

It's been like that since this morning

[kindred drum]

Yeah

[robust cargo]

How y’all feel on the announcement?

[onyx lava]

Not good.

Anyone got any ACTUALLY GOOD alternatives to use till they realize it's pointless and take it back?

[robust cargo]

I understand Marie’s situation running a successful company, people use C.ai not to just feel accepted (which isn’t the best use but it’s by their choice) but to deal with trauma. I get how cai doesn’t want to Implement N S F W into their website but some people use it to cope with trauma that they have. You cant just boast on being an ad free ai chat website that prioritises user experience and go back on your words a few years later

I’m a top creator so I was invited to a 1-1 call with Marie, I’ll most likely be bringing up the current state of cai and my views on its future

[tawny osprey]

Who’s Marie-?

[zinc birch]

They were overly optimistic that they would be able to pay the bills without doing that stuff. If you doubt it, ask chatgpt to look at the numbers and figure out whether c.ai is profitable

[strange inlet]

Marie is the community lead

[odd crag]

dns issue sounds like.

[onyx lava]

PLEASE DO, and if you could please try and explain how the age stuff is lowkey just dumb? Obviously you don't have to do it if you don't want to, not trying to make you do anything just a suggestion!!

[robust cargo]

I don’t doubt it, but claiming at they’re a small company after building up and basically being worldwide renown is shocking

[robust cargo]

I understand the age limits, I do however think it’s extreme

[onyx lava]

I understand doing it in countries where they make you however I think doing it world wide will not only remove a lot of their users and is also just excessive

[robust cargo]

User safeguarding should always be a near top priority for a company, however knowing your website is mainly teens and therefore blocking them off a Website they potentially spent money on therefore contributing to its growth and being blocked simply cos you’re a year younger than what you should be is iffy to me

[zinc birch]

It's because AI models cost so much. It's why most chat platforms have ads in chat or otherwise offer less for free

[robust cargo]

If that’s the case why didn’t they sell to google

[zinc birch]

Their goal is to make it profitable while still owning it I would assume

[onyx lava]

Yes I think user safety should most definitely be top priority! However I also think kicking almost all of your users off the app is just plain dumb. I think adding something like every few hours you have to take a break for around thirty minutes to an hour, making sure people aren't staying on the app too long while also not just completely kicking them off

[robust cargo]

I understand that models cost a lot, but priding yourself and advertising yourself as an ad free immersive ai chat experience and going back on your word? It’s dishonesty

Even adding something as simple as a donation page would massively Help cai because people genuinely want this site to keep thriving

[zinc birch]

so they should go bankrupt instead because their cost predictions were wrong? 😅

[robust cargo]

They’re no where near bankrupt

With Marie as the community lead they’re doing really well, partially due to fixes in the ai system as well as adding more features to cai+

[onyx lava]

"I wonder why we're losing money!" They cry after kicking over half of their users off - The c.ai CEO's probably

[robust cargo]

If they’re struggling on money, why add a verification page that simply kicks you off and blocks you from going on the website

[devout crescent]

@robust cargo you a marvel fan?

[onyx lava]

That's what I'm saying!!!

[zinc birch]

to avoid fines and lawsuits

[robust cargo]

Yeah

[devout crescent]

me too

[onyx lava]

Making it worldwide was still unnecessary.

[robust cargo]

Then add implementations such as blocking certain ai’s that could be deemed inappropriate

You cant block off an entire age group then complain when your company takes a beating because of it

[odd crag]

any ai can be inappropriate.

[devout crescent]

Thor and Jonathan are a pretty good duo

[odd crag]

they can't control what the AI says 100%

[robust cargo]

Thor and Jane are better imo

[devout crescent]

as a couple yes. Do u even know who Jonathan is?

[onyx lava]

Then... I fear... It's not on them legally... I'm pretty sure at least, not an expert

[robust cargo]

I’m no tech Wizz but I’m certain they could’ve added a subsection to ai that a certain age group would fall under

[robust cargo]

Wolverine?

Or you mean his hammer

There’s multiple Jonathan’s

[devout crescent]

Paul Rudd thought Mjolnir was Jonathan

[robust cargo]

Yeah i know what you meant now, there’s alot of Jonathan’s in marvel

[devout crescent]

true

[ocean wind]

The chair whimpers.

Well, that might be the weirdest thing the bots have written to me in a while. Maybe ever. Lol.

[onyx lava]

Sorry the what does what?

[ocean wind]

The best part? There was no chair mentioned before this point. I don't even know what chair it's talking about.

[onyx lava]

HUH

[robust cargo]

🪑

[zinc birch]

it's a stealth chair

[onyx lava]

Maybe the chair is a mimic...

Sorry I play a lot of d&d😔

[robust cargo]

Chromatic dragons all the all way

[bronze badger]

is the reading mode thing permanent..

[onyx lava]

Yes.

[zinc birch]

only until you turn 18

[cobalt walrus]

Well, that's a sentence that I never thought of seeing one day, and yet it happened

[austere portal]

how can they ruin such a good app

[ocean wind]

The rest of the post is very normal sorta angsty conversation. And then, at the end, completely out of the blue.... There is a chair, and it whimpers. For some reason.

[bronze badger]

most of their users are below 18 though 🤔

[robust cargo]

I have alot to talk about with Marie on Friday 😭

[cobalt walrus]

I love it when the AI says something out of the blue and then keeps going on as if nothing ever happened.

[cobalt walrus]

[onyx lava]

EXACTLY

[robust cargo]

It’s mainly safeguarding

[errant jewel]

Is it just me or do the C.AI devs not care about the website? The app has so many more features than the website and certain website bugs (eg: Group Chats not working at all on the website) just don't get fixed despite me sending tickets for MONTHS about them.

[robust cargo]

Why even use the website

[cobalt walrus]

Only a small portion of the users are minors, less than 30% (or 20%). The adult portion of cAI is less likely to publicly say that they use cAI, so it looks like that the teenager portion is the superior one.

[dire frost]

i don't think they even listen

[idle tree]

Could we also ask them to not implement ads on the website version? The web barely has any features from the app like charms, group chats and more…

[errant jewel]

Could be a situation of a loud minority over a silent majority

[robust cargo]

Ads are always basically mandatory if a business wants to keep running, I mean you see how many ads you get with chai?

Unless you actively pay to support the company you’ll be given ads to compensate with the loss

[bronze badger]

i never get ads with chai, i don’t use it anymore but whenever i did i NEVER got ads

[robust cargo]

Oh well you get one like every 5-6 messages but Atleast they were short skippable ones

[idle tree]

Im lowkey fine with banner ads but ads between chat is just a no, and its lowkey kinda unfair since the web doesn’t even have most features like it does with the app, also, how are we even gonna earn charms?

[robust cargo]

I think cai had the idea that people would move over to the app (me included) since it’s a lot easier to maintain and update

[idle tree]

Im already getting banner ads as we speak, and Im already predicting that they’re gonna get even more aggressive with the ads since most companies tend to start with banner ads to gather data for statistics.

[nimble finch]

Hey yalls, I’m confused why my chat saying “ this content has been filtered “ when I didn’t do anything at all. Also I even payed the $10 subscription.

[robust cargo]

Banner ads are fine, ads are how they monetise. In one way or another whether by paying or not you will be supporting the site

[robust cargo]

Have you verified your age

[nimble finch]

Yeah

It’s still saying the filtered shit

[robust cargo]

Are you under or over 18

[nimble finch]

Over. I sent them my ID

[brittle quest]

Verifying your age doesn't mean not getting the filter anymore

Watch the words you use and the setting of the story you're creating. Sometimes the bot can stop everything because it thinks you're going too far or trying to get into something "out of the lines" though if you write it well you can bypass it

[nimble finch]

Okay.

[robust cargo]

Either a bug or has something to do with what you’re saying to the chat bot

Generally any N S F W will be flagged

[maiden copper]

my character.ai is not working

[buoyant elm]

WHY ARE THEY LIMITING SWIPES HELLO?!

ARE THEY HONESTLY LIMITING HOW LONG SOMEONE CHATS WITH A BOT?

[onyx lava]

They've always had that? You can just delete the message and retry if you don't like what you've gotten

[buoyant elm]

Yes I know that I think I wrote it in the wrong way

[tulip pollen]

Yeah you can just do that instead

[buoyant elm]

Aren't the swipes already limited? What more can they limit from the swipes is my question

Like I'm just a little confused

[dire frost]

if they limit it to 10🥹

[buoyant elm]

[west lantern]

Gang, is it just me where when you use the browser version of C.ai it won't let you swipe? Like technically you can but it won't load the new message

[nova sphinx]

Am I the only one who hates when the chat trys to fill in for your character? Or the end scene stuff? I'm actually gonna have an aneurysm trying to delete it every text

[west lantern]

Omg yes 😭 that's so annoying

[deft marsh]

Gang dose anyone got insta? There's this damn glitch that removed themes just wana know if i'm the only one

[safe tinsel]

why did my cai like not let me log in again

its been 12 hrs,

[deft marsh]

Maybe reset it?

[safe tinsel]

NO ITS HAPPENING TO ME TOO ☹️

[undone dagger]

I keep getting “<tool_call>” in the AI responses, is this a common fault? A bug maybe?

[buoyant elm]

This is going to be a rough week yall

[safe tinsel]

i stull cant log in. pmo

[tranquil bloom]

dude there are so many male bots on my recommended for some reason even though I literally never interact with them, STOP GIVING ME BL BOTS

[zinc birch]

ask it what tool it is calling 😄

[abstract creek]

It's happening to me too! It's also merging random words, adding letters that arent nedeed, and not finishing messages

[deft marsh]

Same bro

[safe tinsel]

SAME

[deft marsh]

Yestrday it started ading freakin emojis

[undone dagger]

YES, it ruins the experience and immersion. Kinda sad that nothing has been done about it…

[abstract creek]

Idk what to do

[safe tinsel]

whast teh point of thsi seev when the mods kinda consider nothing we say

[hollow dagger]

Its to socialise with other c.ai users

[deft marsh]

I recomend editing the mistakes usaly it starts to get it right after

[tranquil bloom]

is the not interested button just gone now???

[safe tinsel]

dude i wish the mods still did smt, if this is official like i expect some sort of communication with mods or devs

[abstract creek]

like, i fix them and then it stops doing it by itself??...

[hollow dagger]

No it isn't, its named "hide for me" or "hide the bot"

[deft marsh]

Yh

[abstract creek]

tyyy

[safe tinsel]

sigh it keeps saying login failed this happens like 4 times a week

[fickle star]

Why did the text on my cai website change?

[strange inlet]

i feel like they could at least fix reported characters still trying to appear on your fyp

[deft marsh]

Maybe delete it and load it in again?

[strange inlet]

i reload and see "character removed"

[safe tinsel]

i tried it does nothing

[strange inlet]

okay? don't try to show them again

guh

fix your algorithm man

[sharp basin]

Anyone else using a VPN does it also not work anymore?

[steep pilot]

Yo guys did they remove the 18+ thing that dosent show some bots unless your account is 18+

[deft marsh]

Dang that hapened to my old act too but i made a new act since it just reffused to let me in

[tranquil bloom]

I know there's no technical difference between bots but I wish there was some algorithm that could let you pick what gender the bots you get are

STOP GIVING ME MLM BOTS OF FUCKING SATORU GOJO AND GHOST

[hollow dagger]

My fyp is filled with random youtubers and total drama island character, I've never even talked to any of them before they just appeared

[hollow dagger]

I keep getting ftm and wlw even tho i never ever talk to the bots😭

[plucky river]

No, to check if you see all bots see if you can use soft launch, if yes then your account has been registered as an adult

[safe tinsel]

i tried deleting again and now the app wont even open

[tranquil bloom]

I WISH bro

[flint valve]

So like I have a question

[hollow dagger]

Ask

[steep pilot]

Is that a chat style or smth

[tranquil bloom]

this is an ai chatbot everybody

[deft marsh]

Dang

[plucky river]

It is, and oh god that sentence was so incoherent I'm sorry I just woke up XD

[flint valve]

Jst curious if the chats are shorter now mine are and its kinda irritating

[fiery ember]

hi gang

[strange inlet]

can they make it so you can remove chat themes i just accidentally clicked on one and can't remove it

[tranquil bloom]

it really just depends per bot, usually ones with a longer first message will keep longer messages throughout

[strange inlet]

ruined my favorite bot im so upset

[steep pilot]

Yea I can use that style

[hollow dagger]

Depends on your message, the bot will have a shorter message if you send short messages, the bot will send detailed messages if you send detailed messages

[steep pilot]

That means my account is a adult ?

[strange inlet]

Omg wait I fixes it

[cobalt walrus]

I actually had to reload the website because the reply was stuck on loading mode

[plucky river]

Then your account is registered as an adult

[plucky river]

Is this your first time or 😭

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, if you have Soft Launch, can edit and something else that I forgot, it means that you're considered as an adult

[hollow dagger]

Yay👏

[cobalt walrus]

It happens sometimes. It's mostly the WiFi acting up so I'm used to it

[plucky river]

You can edit ai replies ^^

[strange inlet]

i had to start a new chat to do that tho

[buoyant elm]

This is going to be a bad week

[plucky river]

For me it happens all the time I have accepted it lol

[strange inlet]

minors can't edit messages

[plucky river]

Yea that was the point I replied to someone saying something about an adult account

[cobalt walrus]

I know that and I can do all of that because my cAI account is linked to my main gmail account, which I verified when I turned 18 years old. It thinks that I'm between 25-35 years old, which is not that far because I'll turn 27 mid-April

[timid flare]

is it just me or why is it so slow today

[hollow dagger]

It's slow everyday all day

[strange inlet]

i dont know if the gmail account is the reason you havent gotten flagged, i dont think thats how they check but i could be wrong

[plucky river]

I'm 18 and my Gmail is also 18 but I don't have an ID yet and I am PRAYING it doesn't hit me with verification lol

[hollow dagger]

Wait it depends on the gmail, ohh, that's why i never got the age verification thing, i set my age to be 104

In all of my emails im like over a 100

[timid flare]

so its my problem?

[cobalt walrus]

Gmail thinks that I'm between 25 to 35 years old, so I'm fine with it.

[charred portal]

It does not depend on Gmail unless you're verified on Gmail, it depends on a variety of things

[cobalt walrus]

Or it's an age range or something like that idk

[tranquil bloom]

are they seriously going to limit swipes?? that's like the lifeblood of c.ai

[cobalt walrus]

It's going to be almost a decade since I verified on gmail already, so I'll probably be fine

[strange inlet]

anyone else's messages just saying {{char}} instead of the character's name

[hollow dagger]

They're probably gonna make them 25 or more any less would result in a huge backlash

[hollow dagger]

Make new chat, swipe, or edit it

[plucky river]

The person who made the bot probably misspelt the code or the bot glitched, try to edit your name into it XD

[strange inlet]

its probably my pin confusing the bot

its an instruction pin with "{{char}}" in it

[plucky river]

I had that but never had your problem

I got censored because a character put their head under my chin.

[brittle quest]

Too cute, the bot couldn't handle it

[tulip pollen]

That’s so stupid honestly

[hollow dagger]

I said "hi" to a bot and the response got filtered for some reason

[cobalt walrus]

Once, I got censored because the bot mentioned needles in the medical way

[odd crag]

I almost never get censored.

[plucky river]

You live everyone's dream

[strange inlet]

bob is weird, i haven't seen it in a while

[brittle quest]

Same, censor/filter never gets in my way

[odd crag]

the message is usually still usable when it does, too.

[plucky river]

Who is bob?

[strange inlet]

thats the filter's name

lol

[plucky river]

I SWEAR that f word used to get you timed out

[brittle quest]

Maybe I have some privileges (nope)

[strange inlet]

they named it bob

[plucky river]

I had no idea we named it XD

[strange inlet]

they removed the automod for that word a while ago because it got annoying when trying to talk about it

[brittle quest]

So no filter filtering the filter

Niiice

[strange inlet]

as long as you follow the rules about how we talk about it it's fine

[plucky river]

Oh thank god I was beefing with it so much

[strange inlet]

for some reason before i fully read the message i thought the f word you meant was fuck

[brittle quest]

Same

[strange inlet]

i was gonna be like

look who cant say FUCK

[plucky river]

I 100% expected this from someone LMAO

[strange inlet]

hahaha

[strange inlet]

when people censor their words unnecessarily i say this

look who can't say SHIT

[plucky river]

Unless they're christian or a child it's fun to make fun of them lol

[buoyant elm]

I think it's time I go back to looking at a picture of a character and imagining a scenario

[brittle quest]

I kind of censored everything when I first got here though because you never know exactly how much swearing you're allowed to use lmaoo

[plucky river]

Real, but you can also draw/write it yourself, super fun

[plucky river]

I think you're allowed aslong as the word fuck isn't apart of your entire vocabulary XD

[brittle quest]

Gonna use it just like bots can use the word damn

[strange inlet]

as long as it isnt hazbin hotel kind of swearing i think you'll be fine saying a few swear words

sideye in case i get jumped

man my app is not cooperating rn i'm using ds and it doing everything but acting like ds

i take it back

no i dont if complaining makes it do its job i will keep complaining

[coral verge]

what happened?

[manic cedar]

Anyone else's C.ai so slow rn or is it my internet?

[buoyant elm]

More things behind paywalls

[limber coyote]

Anyone who's already successfully verify age need to do it again for other account or not?

[limber coyote]

Me too...its shorter.

[potent jolt]

Why c.ai, why did you have to put me in permanent reading mode..?
Now I have to imagine fanfics of my chats.

[scenic fjord]

That's the age limit, you have to verify

[potent jolt]

Idk how, my dad is in my house WITH some technicians and if I pull out my passport I'm gonna get cooked.

[limber pond]

For me it was just the camera thing

[brittle quest]

Yes but if it fails then you have to show your ID

[potent river]

I don’t have an ID 💔💔

[potent jolt]

passport?

[onyx lava]

Not everyone has one??

[potent jolt]

ah, my apologies

[cobalt walrus]

Aren't IDs/passports mandatory?

[onyx lava]

No worries! Just letting you know

[limber pond]

Alriight but just a question once you did the thing and it says i have all the features etc…does it still stays in the settings?

[potent jolt]

if you somehow manage to verify only with face, you dont have to verify with passports

[cobalt walrus]

It depends on the country, but I guess that most of the time, an ID is required when you're a teenager?

[potent jolt]

I'm not from the either USA nor UK, so I think verifying should be easy

[brittle quest]

For now I think so? Seems like it stays

[cobalt walrus]

I'm an adult, so my cAI account is linked to my main gmail account which I ID verified almost a decade ago. It thinks that I'm between 25 to 35 years old Which is not that far, actually, considering that I'll turn 27 years old mid April

[limber pond]

Ahh alright i thought maybe it was only me but yh ty

[potent jolt]

unc status

[cobalt walrus]

And I live in the baguette country

[potent jolt]

i like its history ngl
napoleon is based

[cobalt walrus]

I've seen some people using cAI at the age of 40 years old. Heck, there were even people saying that their grandparents used cAI. Good for them, I guess

[hollow hull]

French detected, deploy the baguettes

[strange inlet]

Verification has hit france

[cobalt walrus]

O fuk

[brittle quest]

Oh!

Nice to know

[strange inlet]

Why do you think I verified

[hollow hull]

Dunno if verification has hit the land down under yet

[brittle quest]

I'm just curious to see if I'll be flagged as a minor or not

[strange inlet]

i didnt take my chances

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, I have the option to age verify on both the app and website, but as long as it don't ask me to do it, then I won't do it obviously. And I have Soft Launch along with the option to edit messages, but I'll probably verify soon

[brittle quest]

For the sake of my curiosity I need to know

[tulip pollen]

I wonder when it will hit Sweden

[strange inlet]

probably in a few months

[buoyant elm]

It hit Europe completely I think

[tulip pollen]

Nope I haven’t gotten the option yet

[strange inlet]

Doesnt seem to have hit sweden since ace asked

[buoyant elm]

Greece got it too

[potent jolt]

bosnia got it too

i think the whole balkans got it

[tulip pollen]

Nvm i just got it

[hollow hull]

Its like a Plagues Inc virus, its gotta do some land and air and sea transmission… then it will be Complete Global Saturation

[buoyant elm]

HAHA NO WAY

[cobalt walrus]

I mean, for now, I won't verify. And I have Soft Launch along with the ability to edit messages, I'll be fine.

[dense skiff]

So we can still use VPN and set it to Sweden?

[strange inlet]

Oh my god

[brittle quest]

They are hitting hard

[buoyant elm]

It hit sweden

[cosmic goblet]

It has apparently, for a while now

[strange inlet]

Good luck

[dense skiff]

Is it fully global now?

[strange inlet]

Doesn't seem so

Idk tho

[limber coyote]

Im in Indonesia and i already have it 😭

[hollow hull]

Damn Ive been a lucky aussie then

[buoyant elm]

I'm guessing everyone will have it in a few hours

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, it's suppoed to be global. After the lawsuits and more horrible stuff

[cosmic goblet]

So I've already verified my age cause it came to the UK a while ago...Will I have to do it again?

[strange inlet]

No

[cobalt walrus]

But may those teenagers rest in peace

[hollow hull]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-uroboros-resident-evil-gif-10652152775226920974

[tulip pollen]

I did the age verification with selfie, passed it

[strange inlet]

Once you did it you shouldn't have to again. Make a ticket if it makes you do it again

[brittle quest]

Sometimes I just imagine people pushing one specific button and then poof there it is the new feature

[strange inlet]

Bruh I had to use my id 💔

[dense skiff]

Y'all can just put on makeup I'm not sure if it'll work tho because I did the same with Roblox and apparently c.ai uses the same AI to verify faces as Roblox

[tulip pollen]

Sad

[buoyant elm]

Imma verify if it actually gives me an option

[near creek]

Hello

[hidden flume]

both use persona

[hollow hull]

If selfie doesnt work for me, i’ll quit using CAI. I dont feel comfortable or safe putting my government ID out onto the Internet.

[tulip pollen]

But I’m happy I got it out of the way

[buoyant elm]

Can I ask something? Does the Gmail you've logged into the account do anything at all? I mean my email is verified I'm just asking

[cobalt walrus]

I can age verify if I want to but I won't do it until it asks me to do so. And since I'm an adult, I doubt that I'll have to do it. Since I already age verified my main gmail account when I turned 18 years old, I use my main gmail account to go on cAI. But idk

[strange inlet]

I'm pretty sure it doesn't do much

[spark bay]

fr, that’s why I dont confirm my age.

[strange inlet]

Yeah lowkey just don't do it unless it tells you to

[cosmic goblet]

Mine was verified and I wasn't flagged but I also talk to a mix of bots from different media so that probably played a part

[cobalt walrus]

I probably won't have to do it since I'm in the adult group but eh

[tulip pollen]

Hi Ingo

[dense skiff]

What does that mean

[cosmic goblet]

It never asked mw to verify but I did it anyway lmao, worked just fine

[buoyant elm]

I'm now talking in between jjk, haikyuu bots (after time skip if you know you know) and one piece bots

[cosmic goblet]

Hiya Ace!

[hidden flume]

mean roblox and cai use persona to verify

[coral otter]

Using my ID has literally done nothing. ive tried a dozen times and it always says it couldnt verify me. keep in mind, I am a legal adult. Ive sent two tickets asking for help or tech support and everytime all I got was an automated message that told me to just try it on the web instead, which I DID, and im met with the exact same issue.

[tulip pollen]

I did the selfie verification on cai and it passed as I expected it too

[dense skiff]

English is not my first language so can you explain what that is?

[cosmic goblet]

Yeah my bots are from drastically different medias, it ranges from Pokémon, to British sitcoms, to black and white films from the 30s and 40s

[buoyant elm]

Ohh that's nice

[cosmic goblet]

Same here lmao

[cobalt walrus]

I just chat with some bots that are Vox from hazbin hotel

[coral otter]

Is there even a way to fool the selfie verif?

[cobalt walrus]

Nope

[hidden flume]

probably

[hollow hull]

So far in my time using CAI i’ve chatted to Genshin and BOTW bots

[coral otter]

cause i have hella baby face

[strange inlet]

id say dont discuss it in the official cai server

[cobalt walrus]

Keep in mind that bypassing the age verification system isn't allowed, I guess?

[tulip pollen]

I have bit of variety but mostly highschool dxd and Pokémon bots

[dense skiff]

You're right

[strange inlet]

if anything happens after doing that, it's on you and not on the app anymore yeah

[coral otter]

I genuinely dont have any other choice i tried everything bro 😭

[cobalt walrus]

But, whatever, if it ever asks me to do it, then I'll do it. I already did it with gmail when I turned 18 years old and I'll do it with cAI

[buoyant elm]

Have you tagged a mod about the problem? To boost the ticket?

[coral otter]

I have

i spoke with a mod once in a dm, they said they would "pass my user along" but as youd expect, jack squat happened

[trim socket]

Age verification is in sweden now. GGs

[tulip pollen]

Yes, I just did it

[coral otter]

like dude i swear im an adult i have a job im turning 21 THIS MONTH

x-x

[buoyant elm]

Why is everything happening in March like

[strange inlet]

Miku day, Mario day, March 7th, Heesung leaving, popular vocaloid producer announced he's really sick, JYP stepped down, a vkei idol quit... calm down march...

[tulip pollen]

So much is happening

[unreal crystal]

Idk what y’all talkin bout, I’m just pumped for nader season

[strange inlet]

But today is my relationship anniversary

https://tenor.com/view/calm-peace-inner-peace-waterfall-chill-gif-936740404438593225

[brittle quest]

What's happening with JYP wait

[tulip pollen]

Congrats

[brittle quest]

Omgggg congrats!!

[strange inlet]

stepped down from his position as internal director

[buoyant elm]

The Pic is lagging mee also congrats!

[brittle quest]

Wow didn't know about that one

[strange inlet]

A lot of stuff is happening

[quiet quarry]

Hello!

[devout crescent]

hi

[trim socket]

Finally deleted c.ai. What a sweet release

[quiet quarry]

It's 7:00 AM in the morning for me right now!

[devout crescent]

for me its 1:02pm

[devout crescent]

why did you do that?

[trim socket]

Felt tired of the bad decisions they were making. Way too money hungry + I can't even chat now anyway, no point

[devout crescent]

oh, makes sense

still sad though

[summer breach]

I could've sworn that happened in 2011...Or was it that he stepped down from his ceo position idk

[strange inlet]

Ceo then I think

Now its internal director

what is bro cooking

[summer breach]

oh well

what if he becomes a priest

this man is unpredictable

[strange inlet]

Oh my god

Father JYP 😭 The father the son and the holy spirit are gonna be groups he produced instead😭

[dense skiff]

Heeseung leaving doesn't even feel real like I can't process it and it just feels like a dream

[ancient vault]

Jinx reference

[summer breach]

like what is going on with K-pop right now... First it's newjeans, then it's kep1er, then enhypen who's next

[devout crescent]

arcane?

[potent river]

I KEEP PUTTING THE ID BUT IT SAYS THEY CANT VERIFY IT AND I NEED TO DO IT AGAIN BUT I LITERALLY DID IT LIKE 5 times

🥹🥹💔💔

[steel heron]

K pop industry trying to have a normal day like a normal person (impossible)

[steel heron]

The app is probably overloaded right now, I suppose you'd have to wait a while.

[ember hull]

I got hit with the chats are read only until I verify thing and I'm 16, I guess I'll just wait until I turn 18, won't be long anyway

[limber pond]

Ohh you didn’t do it yet?

[past silo]

I'm having trouble adding images to my pfp profile on c.ai bcs it's being labeled "inappropriate," even though the image is perfectly fine. Does anyone know how to fix this??? LIKE, IT'S JUST MY OWN OC... 🥹🥹

[torn ruin]

Discussion chat turned general chat

[ember hull]

Throwing a tantrum over it won't bring anything lmfao

[steel heron]

I thought it was general 2 😔

[brittle quest]

Nah but if I'm flagged I'll do it

[midnight path]

hey guys

everything all good?

[ember hull]

Yeah, just thinking what to do except throwing a tantrum lmao

My chats are read only unless I verify and even if I do it with my own ID I will still be able to only read the chats

Eh, I'll wait until I turn 16, I'm turning 17 in September and it won't be long until September 2027

[midnight path]

I think it’s best if you either take a break or stop using the app altogether, considering it has literally gone to shit. Honestly, the beta version was peak, but since then…yeah.

Considering on what I’ve seen on Reddit, I think I can see why people don’t like it so much

[limber pond]

Ahhh alriiight

[past silo]

im depressedi cantchange my pfp on cai, nothingworks... 🥹🥹

[ember hull]

Oh wait you replied to me lmao didn't see

[midnight path]

lol

had replies turned off

[midnight path]

Does anyone agree?

[ember hull]

I mean true but the concept of the app is actually nice, though I don't get as attached as some people do lmao

[ember hull]

I actually know that those are just bots

[midnight path]

Yeah, in concept it’s easy to grasp, but in execution, especially now, it falls flat on its ass

[cobalt walrus]

I'm sorry but what Not me who said that, obviously

That's, umm, a bit extreme in my opinion.

[tulip pollen]

Holy

[cobalt walrus]

Some people are crazy

[ember hull]

I agree with them on all except the wishing death part

It is the parents' job to monitor their children but the concept of the law is good, it's the execution that's fucking shit

[tulip pollen]

Same here

[spark forge]

Hi, does anyone know if UK users also had to verify themselves with Persona or could do it with their digital verification system? I wasn't been misflagged fortunately, but wonder if there would be an option to verify with that incoming digital wallet system from the EU, just in case if I would have to. I would trust it more than the current system.

[cosmic crater]

The fault can't be put entirely on the parents.

If an app allows minors to use it, even if the content isn’t as safe as they claim and there’s little to no protection for children, then if something goes wrong, the company is the one that gets sued.

[ember hull]

True

[ember hull]

I have a digital ID already (mObywatel) and I wonder the same

[spark forge]

Also general science consensus agree with that chatting with ai and using it too much is unhealthy for a minors. For adults too, but adults are not under protection.

[cobalt walrus]

Digital ID? Never got something like that, I just have a physical one. It expires in 2031, I have some time

[spark forge]

Yeah, eu plan to launch digital id wallet, some countries already had it, but they want to unify it with one app. Probably it will start working in late 2026/early 2027. There should be an option to use "token" to prove your age without really showing id, since it will be government app, so it won't be bypassed. I just wonder if that would also be an option for cai.

[ember hull]

If they want to be present in the EU then I think it will

[spark forge]

While eu agree with protecting minors from social media influence and other sites not safe for them, they are also concerned about citizens privacy, so this is an answer for more incoming age verification systems.

[ember hull]

I'm pretty safe I guess, I live in a country obsessed with data privacy

[spark forge]

Maybe, but that's why I wondering if that is already the thing for UK/Australia or not.

[quiet turtle]

as an Australian I have been fucked, even with a vpn

[dense skiff]

Same because apparently it's because a boy yk... And it happened because literally his mother took away his therapist so the boy started using c.ai and when the boy did yk what the mother blamed c.ai for it

[elder cliff]

Can someone explain the metering to me? I didn't understand it very well. Does it mean I cannot write more than a certain number of mex?

[spark bay]

God, I remember that period, it was awful. It was impossible to chat with bots cuz of censorship, but I don't blame them for that, I would probably have done the same thing, maybe.

[spark forge]

Tbh, I don't know if Australia also have an option for digital verification with tokens. I know that UK have or supposed to have it. I don't mind verification system, I understand why they launch it, just preferred to use safer option than Persona. In the best scenario I shouldn't be flagged at all, because I'm adult, but possible case if age verification would be mandatory like some lobbies tried to force, I would want an other options too.

[solid geyser]

Quick question before I give my data to persona, does the timer go away or I just give my info for nothing

[mighty hearth]

Guys my app isn’t working and it’s been 2 months any ideas?

[last sedge]

It goes away if you’re not a minor

[solid geyser]

Okay

[mighty hearth]

Like my app isn’t working and I’ve tried everything

[elder cliff]

if you are a minor, it doesn't work (or at least you cannot chat at all)

[mighty hearth]

So it knows my age?

[elder cliff]

yes (you can also verify it if it is wrong - but you need your pic or your id)

[mighty hearth]

Oh no so I have to stick with the web😔

[tiny pecan]

Nope!

[brave lily]

If you haven’t attempted to verify, it only guesstimates your age. While it doesn’t exactly know your age, it basically assumes if you’re -18 or +18.

[cobalt walrus]

Website also has the age verification system, I have it on both the app and website but it didn't asked me to verify. Since I'm in the adult portion if cAI, I have Soft Launch, can edit and all that jazz, I probably won't have to verify but I have my ID just in case.

Already age verified when I turned 18 years old for my main gmail account, I'll do it for cAI.

[mighty hearth]

Because I use different email I have 2 emails and the first one I used first but then deleted account and then I used another email and I use it till now and I got a new phone and I accidentally typed in the first email and then it stopped working

[mighty hearth]

Oh it didn’t ask me for age verification

[cobalt walrus]

I also have my main gmail account linked to cAI, and I can verify if I want to. Maybe later.

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, if you can edit and have Soft Launch, then it means that they put you in the adult portion of cAI. The verification system is here and will stay here.

[mighty hearth]

Because I’m not exactly an adult yet and yeah the wild stuff comes up

[cobalt walrus]

I'm 26 years old (will turn 27 years old mid-April kek). I already verified my main gmail account almost a decade ago and I love the fact that it put me in the 25-35 years old group

[mighty hearth]

Omg where are you from if you don’t mind me asking?

[turbid bridge]

Bruh

[cobalt walrus]

Oof, then sorry to break it up for you, but since the lawsuits (along with teenagers leaving the earth permanently), then cAI will be for adults only. May the teenagers rest in peace

[cobalt walrus]

France

[mighty hearth]

Omg I’m from Czech

[mighty hearth]

I always wanted to learn French

[brave lily]

Im in the same age group you’re in, just a few months younger.

[strange mulch]

Being a kid on the internet in 2026 is like being a crippled man on a wheelchair with an artificial heart

[brave lily]

With high blood pressure.

[strange mulch]

What happens if you use an ai generated face of an adult to verify?

[brave lily]

I don’t know, I ain’t that desperate to verify some place.

[strange mulch]

Did you verify already?

[brave lily]

No.

I never had to.

[strange mulch]

Will you be instantly asked to verify once it reaches your location?

[elder cliff]

i suppose it understands it is not a real ppl

[brave lily]

I’m in Texas, they would’ve asked me by now.

[cobalt walrus]

Same, I have the option to verify but I'll do it when I feel like it, like that I won't be bothered. Even thought I have Soft Launch, can edit and everything else, idk if I'll have to do it. I have my ID just in case, and it expires in 2031, still have time

[strange mulch]

How does c.ai detect if your underahge?

[cobalt walrus]

They didn't said it explicitely because there would be workarounds, but probably stuff like: the typing (if it's brainrot stuff, 'u' instead of 'you'), the amount of time spent on cAI (teenagers use cAI a lot from what I've seen), the kind of bots you're chatting with (not really sure about it), and other things.

[elder cliff]

imo they check even if your email is verified or not

[strange mulch]

HUH?

[elder cliff]

i put my id on my email time ago, to verify it

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, probably that too. I mean, it's been almost a decade since I've verified my main gmail account when I turned 18 years old, so I'll probably be fine

[elder cliff]

same lol

[strange mulch]

If my email is verified as 18+ (never verified my ID) will it still ask?

[potent shore]

[elder cliff]

no idea

[cobalt walrus]

Even thought there are quite private information getting leaked where I am, I don't care about it tbh. Besoin, at one moment, your private information will be public.

[deft jetty]

We aren't sure since it wasn't stated anywhere, but maybe it could be something like this
#💭︱cai-discussion message

[cobalt walrus]

I even got a mail saying that some of my private information has been leaked to the dark web

[cobalt walrus]

The comparison still makes me laugh to this day. Especially the one with the second example

[cobalt walrus]

It's basically 'normal' where I live, it's mostly bank account stuff getting leaked

[strange mulch]

I never shorten my words most of the time, now i'm never gonna do that ever again, i'm gonna go from

"I'm playing GTA SA on the PS2 until I get a PS5"

To

"I'm playing Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas on the Playstation 2 until I get a Playstation 5"

Real quick

[deft jetty]

lmao that's some exaggeration right there

[elder cliff]

i used to shorten my words, like ps5 and so on .. i don't think that is the problem lol

[strange mulch]

Still, now i'm scared to shorten common words

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, that's not a problem. If it's something like 'hey wassup bro? R u coming home?' then yeah, you'll probably be considered as a minor due to this kind of typing.

[cobalt walrus]

Or something like that

[strange mulch]

In fact, I used to type the games full name out in case the AI read the name wrong

[deft jetty]

Just don't type like a teenager like in that example and you should be fine(?)
But again, we don't know if that's how it works, the verification could still hit us even if we type things correctly

[cobalt walrus]

The AI can be dumb, but not that stupid

[strange mulch]

But what if your having a GTA type role play, will we still get flagged?

[cobalt walrus]

Nope, I chat with a Vox (from hazbin hotel) bot and mention stuff like killing and everything's alright

[deft jetty]

I speak with Pokémon and Zelda bots all the time, and so far it didn't strike me

[strange mulch]

Cause I RP as a drug user that refuses to get help

[deft jetty]

-# maybe because of where I live, but let's ignore that part for now lel

[deft jetty]

Please tell me that isn't an accurate representation of urself irl, lol

[cobalt walrus]

I don't think it is lol

[strange mulch]

it isn't, the OC got super strength after intaking a magical drug that gave her enough strength to lift a car

[deft jetty]

he's taking a while to type...

[brave lily]

Like the venom serum that Bane takes in the Arkham games.

https://tenor.com/view/bane-arkham-asylum-venom-batman-dc-gif-16268512613915003405

[strange mulch]

If I type at lightning speed, i'd have typos

[deft jetty]

Fair enough

[cobalt walrus]

Can relate. Even thought I have autofill on my keyboard

[steel crane]

:x drama. .

[ashen root]

STOP THE DOWNFALL OF CHARACTER.AI!

[deft jetty]

god, I dislike autofill/autocorrect so much

it just never works properly on my end

[sand iron]

it won’t take my id 😍 bro it’s real i sat in the dmv to get it. vpns wont work anymore 😍 thanks cai exactly what i needed today

[ashen root]

LISTEN TO US, USERS!

[brave lily]

Ngl, the biggest thing they have to fix is the overall cost of running the service. They can remove some things like the image generation and the video things to at least help them lower the cost.

[ashen root]

FOWARD TO A BETTER CHARACTER.AI!

[brave lily]

If they’re gonna do any sort of “listening” to us, they have to fix on what they have now and try to lower the price of running c.ai as a whole. While I do agree that as we, the users of the site, should be listened to, they have to make a way to fix and lower the price without having to ruin it for all their users.

[plucky river]

Generating a video also costs so much more then an image, based on the fps (which ai videos usually use 24 or allot more) that's like 24 drawings being generated per second.

I don't even know when or why they added that, iv seen nobody using it lol

[brave lily]

I’m quite vocal about them removing the image generation tbh. It doesn’t even work a solid chunk of the time, so I would mind them removing that from the service to alleviate costs.

[brave lily]

Applies to video as well.

[plucky river]

Honestly I agree but I'm mostly ignoring the image generation since it's been a thing since beta site and has sort of been normalized, but the generation is so lacking in updates compared to other ai image generators theres not even a point in keeping it

[ashen root]

There Will Be No Downfall.

[plucky river]

Also mind you, instead of these ad's we have in the middle of the chat they could have just made it an ad to generate an image. Suddenly the generation that costs them money might benefit them. BUT NOOOO. ANNOY YOUR COMMUNITY

[ashen root]

F NO.

[plucky river]

???

[ashen root]

STOP THE DOWNFALL NOW!

[plucky river]

Nah start it bro, they need this lmao

[brave lily]

In one hand, I can understand why they needed to show more adds due to the cost of AI going up. In the other, it’s really messing up the overall usability of the free user base, which is the larger base of c.ai.

[sand iron]

There’s so many issues with some of the things. I wish we could just go back to the original, just chatting or group chats but i don’t even think those work anymore? Who knows, there’s just problems i wish they would fix

[ashen root]

BUT END IT NOW. SPEAK THE TRUTH.

[plucky river]

My main point of that was making ad's actually benefital instead of feeling like cattle that earns them money lol, I understand they need the funds, but I don't think they understand they need free users aswell

[ashen root]

SAVE CHARACTER.AI

[plucky river]

I'm sorry this is too dramatic, there's not gonna be a revolution for an ai chatting website.

[cobalt walrus]

⬆️

[brave lily]

And those free users could turn into paying users if they have the funds to pay for c.ai+.

[sand iron]

dude how old are you it’s just an app

[steel crane]

Agreeable. :x

[ashen root]

YOU ARE A LIAR.

[brittle quest]

Why do you need to scream

[ashen root]

13 years old.

[brittle quest]

Omg

[sand iron]

why are you on this app if you’re 13

[brave lily]

Not surprised.

[steel crane]

. :x r.i.p

[plucky river]

Ok blocked I am not dealing with this on a woman's week

[brave lily]

Crazy I’m 13 years older than they are.

[brittle quest]

Ouch

[brave lily]

He got muted.

[plush dove]

what happen here bro

[steel crane]

:x drama

[plucky river]

Problem with that is for most of the community premium isn't even worth it, iv seen allot of paying users say it's not worth it too lol

[plush dove]

ouh yuck

[elder cliff]

true

[ashen root]

SAVE THIS CHAT PLATFORM NOW.

[steel crane]

:x sleep is better then drama.

[plush dove]

real

[cobalt walrus]

Same kek

Why am I not surprised?

[plucky river]

Also not to defend them but minimum age for discord is 13 XD

[brave lily]

Which hurts c.ai a bit due to having to rely on the free users. I’m not blaming free users for not paying, it’s their money, but the company will have to remain somewhat drastic on free users unless they start fixing ways to make running c.ai cheaper.

[brittle quest]

They'll cry when they'll have to verify their age on discord too

[plucky river]

This server needs to raise it's age though.

[cobalt walrus]

I think it's different worldwide but you can use discord at this age in most countries.

[ashen root]

STOP THE DOWNFALL.

[steel crane]

:x they'll probably use their parents stuff to verify or something.

[plush dove]

stfu kid 😭✌️

[brittle quest]

True it can be done

[steel crane]

:x glad someone said it.

[cobalt walrus]

Oh yeah, I forgot that discord will ask for your age this year

[elder cliff]

can we tag a moderator to get them muted for spam?

[plucky river]

Not being rude but pls ping me if you want me to see your msg I am actually blind if a message isn't yellow, and yes discord minimum age can vary between countries bc of social media laws, though discords own official TOS is 13+

[plush dove]

i think yes

[brave lily]

It should be higher tbh. Thats just my opinion.

[ashen root]

BUT STOP! I AM YUUNA! THE LORD OF CHARACTER.AI!

[cobalt walrus]

They actually stepped down because of the backlash but it'll eventually happen

[plush dove]

yap yap

[steel crane]

:x uh. . The what now?

[plucky river]

Agreed, 16 at max, unfortunately that's not the case rn

[cobalt walrus]

The lord of cAI. Cool, and I am actually Shakira

[elder cliff]

@slate ruin

[ashen root]

AAAAAARRRRRRGGGG!

[steel crane]

:x oh pleasure to meet u shakira

[plucky river]

They stepped down because the sources they were using was literally gonna spy on everything you were saying, so it's good they got backlash XD

[plush dove]

we aint roleplayin bro

[cobalt walrus]

[brave lily]

Especially for social medias like Discord. 16 would be the perfect “minimum” age for discord.

[odd crag]

i think the minimum age to use the internet should be 30

[ashen root]

END! THE! DOWNFALL! OF CHARACTER.AI!

[gritty sphinx]

gng is it me or is c ai not showing up on my browser

[cobalt walrus]

I think that you have to be 16 years old in order to use cAI in the entirety of Europe. In other places such as the USA, it's not the same.

[steel crane]

:x 16 is a fitful age in discord 13 is young probably how children get kidnapped.

[plush dove]

I cant hear you lalala

[elder cliff]

@slate ruin @severe cloud

[plucky river]

Fr, iv had so many 30+ year old men befriending me when I was young on this app and I later blocked them asoon as it got weird, unfortunately not many kids are as socially anxious and suspicious as me and that's how grooming starts

[cobalt walrus]

The amount of horror stories that I've seen on YouTube about discord

[brittle quest]

You could be a great French person

[brave lily]

I’d have 4 to 3 years left if that were the case.

[plush dove]

LMAOOO

[ashen root]

END THE DOWNFALL OF CHARACTER.AI! NOW!

[cobalt walrus]

Tbh, kind of glad that the age verification will be on Discord soon, but I already know that some people will find a workaround unfortunately.

[plush dove]

lalala cant hear you

[cosmic crater]

You're kinda pushing it now, you're not very good at rage baiting lol

[steel crane]

:x age verification is a nice thing to have.

[ashen root]

STOP THE DOWNFALL! STOP THE DOWNFALL! STOP THE DOWNFALL!

[cobalt walrus]

At least, it's going to limit adult stuff and that's it, which I don't really care about because I don't do that for my sake and for everybody else too

[brave lily]

Though I have nothing against young teens, I personally don’t like being alone with them via discord DMs due to them being so much younger than I am, even though it’s clean and respectable.

[plush dove]

are you done

[cunning summit]

Guys, is it just me that bot gets very slow in responding?

[ashen root]

No.

[steel crane]

Sh. . Even in text your in my ears :x

[cobalt walrus]

I don't think that they're done yapping yet

[elder cliff]

@lyric tapir this person is spamming

[plush dove]

then stop

[plucky river]

If they use ai to verify age though I wouldn't blame people if they find a way around it, my friend is 19 and got placed in a 13 age group on Roblox bc she looks young

[cunning summit]

Yet in the status they are not saying anything about it

[ashen root]

NOW END IT NOW! END THE DOWNFALL OF CHARACTER.AI!

[cobalt walrus]

Doesn't Roblox asks for your ID in case that happens? Like how cAI is doing right now.

[steel crane]

:x shhhhh

[plush dove]

we dont wanna hear ur shit

[elder cliff]

can someone else tag the mods?

[plucky river]

I honestly love interacting with teens or children in a mothering way but I wouldn't go out of my way to befriend them, I feel like getting them comfortable around befriending adults can be bad for them, it won't be me but it can be someone else

[plush dove]

@slate ruin mute this guy for spamming

[steel crane]

:x are they finally gone?

[plucky river]

Yup, and some countries absolutely suck with IDs, I'm 18 and still don't have one because they're expensive and I haven't made time for it

[plush dove]

Im aware theyre still here

[steel crane]

:x oh lord of lemon pudding they arent gone.

[plush dove]

we cry then

[cobalt walrus]

I have an ID card since a while and it expires in 2031. Even thought I'm 26 years old, I might have to verify my age if I want to use cAI. And I have Soft Launch along with the ability to edit, so idk if I'll have to verify

[steel crane]

Indeed we do.

[brave lily]

I like to interact with them as an older brother or uncle figure. Being a 26 year old guy, I’d personally want to befriend people that are adults as well. But I wouldn’t mine being an “older brother” to them if needed, I just prefer more adult friends.

[plucky river]

If the ai doesn't detect your behavior as a minor you'll be completely fine

[steel crane]

lemon pudding why isn't that person gone yet :x

[plush dove]

I think they got muted

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah. I already age verified my main gmail account when I turned 18 years old, and it's linked to my cAI account. It puts me in the 25-35 years old section

[steel crane]

Oh lemon pudding answered my prayer :x

[cosmic crater]

[plush dove]

lets celebrate bro

[steel crane]

Oh ok ❌peepolove_cai:

[plucky river]

That's true lol, I love it when you can be an older sibling figure to kids, my mom's friend has a very young kid that doesn't leave me alone about art and whenever she comes over and I'll have to teach her something new or my ears need chopping off

[strange mulch]

Your Gmail in the 25 section?

[cobalt walrus]

It put me in the 25-35 years old group, which is not that far because I'll turn 27 years old next month

[strange mulch]

My gmail was never verified but my age group is like 45+ because I keep searching vintage shit on my Google Account

[plucky river]

Talking here is better then c ai ngl

[steel crane]

:x is that. . The bunny from happy tree :0

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, it is. Traumatized me back then in 2005

[brave lily]

Never realized that there was a good chunk of people here born in 1999 (me included) here.

[sand iron]

i meant cai mb 😭

[steel crane]

I loved watching it. . :x I never got traumatized

[strange mulch]

Where do ya check your age group again in google?

[cobalt walrus]

It's mostly people born that year using cAI. Heck, I even seen people saying that their grandparents used cAI. Good for them, I guess.

[cobalt walrus]

Can't remember. It's somewhere on google I guess

[strange mulch]

My main account's age is in the age group of 45 - 54

But my alt is on the age group of 18 - 24

[brave salmon]

You need to be 13+ right unless ur in Europe

[molten kernel]

help when i text a bot the message wont load💔 my connection is just fine

[cunning summit]

Same

[steel crane]

Maybe servers are acting up someone said something about that I believe :x

[cunning summit]

I think there are some updates going on, so there will be this slowdown of the chats

The problem is that the status isn't saying anything about it

[steel crane]

:x maybe they are to busy to

[cunning summit]

I just wanted to roleplay

[steel crane]

:x enjoy drama until then

[cunning summit]

Sniffs

[steel crane]

I been watching drama in the chats it is pretty funny. :x

[plush dove]

real

[brave salmon]

Im above 13 i verified my age but it isnt letting me do 1:1 chat

[steel crane]

:x hi again

[plush dove]

Hi again too mate

[molten kernel]

does anyone know what cai+ does

[steel crane]

:x uh basically speaking to characters that people made that is what I know

[cobalt walrus]

cAI is restricing access to minors after the lawsuits and what happened to some teenagers

[molten kernel]

does having cai premium do anything useful or soemthing

[steel crane]

:x I believe so

[earnest orchid]

GUYS CAN WE NOT REMOVE CHATS FROM RECENTSS?

[brave salmon]

💔 can i make a new acc w a new gmail nd choose a higher age or would you still have to verify

[real solstice]

I think it's useless, since you need IDs.

[brave salmon]

Alr

[steel crane]

:x I am to lazy for this. . :🌸

[cobalt walrus]

You have to wait until you'll be considered as an adult in order to use cAI, that's how it is.

[brave salmon]

Ill prob forget this by then

[real solstice]

Yeah. Just wait until 18 and you be able to use the app normally.

[cobalt walrus]

Yeah, and you can do something else. Because AI addiction is a real thing and can be a problem.

[cobalt walrus]

I am 26 years old, so I shouldn't be affected. Even thought I have the option to age verify, I'll probably do it if it asks me. Even thought I use my main gmail account (which I age verified almost a decade ago), I have Soft Launch, can edit and all that jazz.

[steel crane]

:x main chat is going crazy

[cobalt walrus]

Main chat as in gen1/gen2? That's the usual

[gaunt quartz]

gen 1 is hectic, i reside in gen 2

[steel crane]

Yeah they are doing some weird stuff.

[dense skiff]

Genuinely why does everything need verification it sucks oh my god

[steel crane]

Probably because of Children doing stuff they shouldn't.

[hardy forge]

Man that kinda annoys me because the children are literally bypassing the filters in place and the punished one is c.ai

[tiny magnet]

Yeah, that's where they always talk about different AI apps.

I just got a warning for mentioning one. And they said it was promotion. Which was not and the rules for that is extremely difficult to understand like no joke, especially with a learning disability and autism. Extremely hard

[steel crane]

Mm. . I saw one bot that was a diabolical probably a child made due to the grammer on the bottom it was pure disgusting I reported it.

:x I dislike that side of C.ai

[rain oracle]

same
will turn 18 on July

[real solstice]

Mine is November.

[eternal grail]

I swear it’s always been like this though, I practically grew up on the internet and I’m confused why they’re ONLY now adding these new laws and stuff

[steel crane]

:x probably because the app wasn't aware or something.

[eternal grail]

That’s fair enough, it’s unfortunate..:(

[steel crane]

:x mhm.

[graceful zephyr]

So i did the age verfication, didnt work, tried it again and it worked, the app doesnt load, so im verified now?

[real solstice]

You can chat?

[graceful zephyr]

Yes